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Monday, December 22, 2014

They're not entirely wrong

Sure, it's a little ironic at the moment, given that more blacks have hunted down police officers than whites of late. But one can hardly say that TIME Magazine is wrong to say that right wing groups pose a serious hypothetical threat to the police of the USA. Or rather, to the police who don't already belong to or sympathize with them.
Time Magazine warned of a growing threat to cops nationwide in September 2010. The nationally renowned publication argued that sinister individuals would launch targeted attacks against police officers and even ambush them in their patrol cars.

Time alerted readers that these groups and individuals have a disturbing hatred of cops and that there was a real threat of “lone-wolf” attacks.

Who are these groups that present such a threat to police? Right-wing militias, according to Time.

In a lengthy six-page article entitled “The Secret World of Extremist Militias,” then-Time Contributing Editor-at-Large Barton Gellman made the case that America should be deeply worried about private citizens forming militias.

“Scores of armed antigovernment groups, some of them far more radical, have formed or been revived during the Obama years, according to law-enforcement agencies and outside watchdogs. A six-month TIME investigation reveals that recruiting, planning, training and explicit calls for a shooting war are on the rise, as are criminal investigations by the FBI and state authorities. Readier for bloodshed than at any time since at least the confrontations in the 1990s in Ruby Ridge, Idaho, and Waco, Texas, the radical right has raised the threat level against the President and other government targets,” the article says.
Of course, this is hardly news. I'd be more impressed with TIME's analysis if they had mentioned any actual numbers or focused on the threat being posed by those within the police ranks. After all, as we've learned everywhere from India to Afghanistan and Iraq, penetrating the police and the federal agencies has been found to be the most effective tactic for 4GW forces.

Instead, I find it morbidly amusing that in the middle of a global economic downturn, with the world gearing up for a whole series of shooting wars and Americans openly arming to defend themselves against a corrupt federal government, the left-liberals at TIME concluded that the time was just right to score some rhetorical points against the right wing.

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Blogger Laramie Hirsch December 22, 2014 4:57 AM  

If I were to play the Devil's Advocate, I could say that it was merely by chance that the left-wing blacks killed police first, and that a right-wing attack could possibly occur at some point afterwards.

If, that is, I were to play Devil's Advocate.

Anonymous The Great Martini December 22, 2014 5:18 AM  

The groups are differently motivated. Black cop killers are usually either off their rockers or reacting to some massive abuse. White right wing cop killers are also usually off their rockers but usually because they perceive their freedoms being taken away and that they're striking back at "the system," which usually means the gubmint. Neither is exactly a systemic problem, yet.

Out of everything, the one thing lately I didn't expect was the reaction against the NY mayor and protesters by the police union. I find the fact that they seem eager to inflame things with rhetoric like "blood on their hands" very disturbing. That's the kind of thing that could really set this off, an all out war against the police.

Blogger Eric December 22, 2014 5:32 AM  

I find the fact that they seem eager to inflame things with rhetoric like "blood on their hands" very disturbing.

Not me. The mayor has been stirring up the natives for political reasons, and this kind of crap is the result. The cops have every right to point it out.

Anonymous God's Advocate December 22, 2014 5:36 AM  

"left-wing blacks"

And water is wet.

Anonymous The Great Martini December 22, 2014 5:44 AM  

The cops are doing more than just point it out. They're saying how dare anyone suggest that we reform ourselves. Sure, it's tragic that two cops have been blown away by a nut who was set off by recent events, but remember "recent events" also includes the choking death by cop of a guy selling cigarettes on the street. What makes the cops think they have the right to be so affronted that they turn their backs on a mayor who demands reform? If the mayor and protesters have blood on their hands, so do the cops.

Blogger Eric December 22, 2014 5:53 AM  

...but remember "recent events" also includes the choking death by cop of a guy selling cigarettes on the street.

Why blame the cops for that? When you make a law, any law, you have to accept the fact that people are going to die as a result of confrontations with police over that law. The fact that that particular law exists at all is the problem, not that the police were trying to actually enforce it. That's their job.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch December 22, 2014 5:58 AM  

Speaking of enforcing the law with the most extreme measures, I wonder if I'm in any kind of mortal danger for not having filled out my American Community Survey for the Census Bureau yet.

Anonymous The Great Martini December 22, 2014 5:59 AM  

You wouldn't happen to work for NYPD would you?

Here's the thing. I picture in my mind how a dirty cop organization would react to the killing of two cops under these circumstances and I come up with how the "benevolent" association responded. After strangling a guy to death, they think they're totally clean. It's amazing. I am amazed.

Anonymous Meh December 22, 2014 6:56 AM  

Muslim gets "sudden jihad syndrome" and attacks Christians.

Black gets "sudden negro syndrome" and attacks whites and/or cops.

Is this "4GW" or just people doing what it is in their nature to do?

Muslims gonna Muslim. Blacks gonna black. Only solution is segregation.

Blogger Eric December 22, 2014 7:03 AM  

You wouldn't happen to be a street thug, would you?

It's true a "dirty cop organization" would react this way. And a clean one. And one in between. There are certainly dirty cops in a police department that big, but I see no reason to think the organization is dirty. The reality is the mayor was cynically putting cops in danger to make himself look good - he does have blood on his hands. You'd be pissed off too if your boss painted a target on you.

NYC is going to go through what LA went through after Rodney King. Experienced cops will quit and go to safer suburban departments, and people will start to wonder why they keep getting mugged. Well, at least the retro '70s fans will be happy.

Blogger Eric December 22, 2014 7:05 AM  

Muslims gonna Muslim. Blacks gonna black.

Yeah, imagine everyone's shock when the shooter turned out to be a black Muslim.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch December 22, 2014 7:10 AM  

@ Meh

"Only solution is segregation."

Nah. Merely a slow-down tactic. Whites will still lose all of their territory in the end.

I talked about this a bit today:

http://thehirschfiles.blogspot.com/2014/12/cubans-become-traditionalists-catholic.html

Self-segregation will ultimately turn to more integration into white neighborhoods. It is inevitable. Do you honestly think whites will adamantly keep blacks out of their communities? Never.

Anonymous jay c December 22, 2014 7:27 AM  

"Scores!?" What is wrong with Americans these days? There ought to be thousands of "groups".

Anonymous Roundtine December 22, 2014 7:51 AM  

Black muslim kills a Hispanic police officer and a Chinese police officer. America: The Future!

Anonymous The Great Martini December 22, 2014 8:00 AM  

Memo, which may or may not be fake, from PBA:

http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/city-hall/2014/12/8558990/pba-condemns-mayor-denies-inflammatory-memo


“At least two units are to respond to EVERY call, no matter the condition or severity, no matter what type of job is pending, or what the option of the patrol supervisor happens to be. IN ADDITION: Absolutely NO enforcement action in the form of arrests and or summonses is to be taken unless absolutely necessary and an individual MUST be placed under arrest. These are precautions that were taken in the 1970’s when Police Officers were ambushed and executed on a regular basis. The mayors hands are literally dripping with our blood because of his words actions and policies and we have, for the first time in a number of years, become a ‘wartime’ police department. We will act accordingly.”


If true, this is probably the stupidest thing I have heard any organization do in a long time.

Anonymous Spy December 22, 2014 8:03 AM  

Read the comments on any of these sites and it's the left-wing Marxists that are the ones making the threats against the police. Time are left-wing Marxists so they fail to mention this little ditty and the left-wing fears those on the right and rightfully so.

OpenID simplytimothy December 22, 2014 8:10 AM  

When Whittaker Chamber's worked his way up the ladder and became editor of Time magazine he made it staunchly anti-communist. Chambers was under no illusions about the murderous ways of the SJW's of the day. He was a serious and Godly man; a man worth remembering as we set about our work.

Anonymous x December 22, 2014 8:15 AM  

Local cops or Federal cops?

Blogger Chris Mallory December 22, 2014 8:18 AM  

"The cops have every right to point it out."

As armed government employees, cops do not have "rights". They have delegated responsibilities. Their only right as long as they take the king's coin is to shut their mouths and suck it up. If they want to find honest work, then they can reclaim their rights.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza December 22, 2014 8:20 AM  

How is Time Mag's subscriptions going? Higher, lower? TIME is incapable of actual stats, its just the average intel gang throwing a mag together.

Zerohedge is reporting two more shootings of police, separate states.

Meanwhile, we have serious problems; economic, bankin's oil deriv's and other economic problems that Americants are not paying any attention towards.

Is US TV media going wall to wall in coverage for 4 killed - on Christmas of all times.

Anonymous Stililcho December 22, 2014 8:35 AM  

I am thoroughly amused at the cognitive dissonance on the left over this. On one hand, they have l'affaire cigarette where a leftist government killed a member of a leftist bloc over a petty violation of an incredibly stupid leftist law. On the same hand, they have a member of a leftist bloc killing two employees of a leftist government in retaliation. Again on the same hand, they have a situation where co-workers of the leftist government employees who killed the member of the leftist bloc are angry at the head of the leftist government that employs them because he has suggested that they are to blame for carrying out his stupid policies. The left is faced with a dilemma over which finger to cut off. Right now, it appears the police are the favored target given that they can serve as a scapegoat for the stupid leftist law. It wasn't a failure of policy or principle you see, they just didn't have the right people implementing it... As Vox says, they always turn on each other eventually. Naturally, I'm waiting for the NYT to explain how this is all Reagan's fault.

Anonymous The Great Martini December 22, 2014 8:46 AM  

On one hand, they have l'affaire cigarette where a leftist government killed a member of a leftist bloc over a petty violation of an incredibly stupid leftist law.


The problem with your analysis is it's not fine grained enough. You might argue that cops work for a leftist government, but the police are usually right wing, often ex-mil, etc. They may enforce left-wing laws, but not because they are themselves left-wing. Rather, because they view any disobedience to any law as a challenge to their authority. There's plenty of room here for a contest between left and right within the confines of government authority.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 22, 2014 8:46 AM  

Left on Left violence should always be encouraged, then they have less time for me or as the Kook Central posters at Daily Kos would label me "common enemy."

And one bit of good news Rahm Emanuel's teenage son supposedly got mugged pretty good this weekend, no doubt by some fellas from another Democratic constituency group.

Anonymous Thin Blue Line December 22, 2014 8:48 AM  

The fact that that particular law exists at all is the problem, not that the police were trying to actually enforce it. That's their job.

The Cheka and Nazis couldn't have said it better. In fact they did say it.
You're blame shifting. Cops take orders from the Mayor, no matter what they think of it. That is their job. If it puts them in harms way, too bad. If they get killed? Too bad. Came with the job and the territory. That's what they signed up for of their own will and volition. It's what they could leave freely as well. Instantaneously.
Why haven't all the cops resigned as a result of "bad laws"? Surely their principled enough to do so? Can't be other psych reasons they want to wear a gun and tell people what to do, laws be damned. Nah. Or that govt pension. Well, just as long as they make it to the end of their shift alive. That's all that matters. Except when they don't.

and people will start to wonder why they keep getting mugged

These people have every right to be armed and take care of their own business rather than expect and rely on some mafia racket govt goons to do so. Be a real man or woman and protect your own. You're already a slave to Govt if you live somewhere that does not in fact allow you to do so.
You're just getting it from both ends by supporting govt and its vapid, armed, sociopathic thugs. They need and desire you to be the victim.

when the shooter turned out to be a black Muslim

Need thousands upon thousands of dead Cops - at the hands of anyone whatsoever - before it becomes remotely close to being the "deadly, dangerous" job that Statists lie about and claim that it is.

Blogger MendoScot December 22, 2014 8:54 AM  

Related - Kapos for Kristallnacht

Hanauer, along with Bill Gates, was one of the privileged backers of Michael Bloomberg’s so-called “background check” initiative in Washington State. I say “so-called”, because no less an authority than the National Institute of Justice has admitted the effectiveness of such a law “depends on the ability to reduce straw purchasing, requiring gun registration,” and, as we’ve seen time and again, that’s a necessary prerequisite for those bent on confiscation.

Anonymous Michael December 22, 2014 9:06 AM  

Am I the only one who finds TIME's demonizing of "right-wing militias" to be logically incoherent and insulting? Thus far, the lone-wolf attacks have been committed primarily by left-wing/socialist wackos. As a matter of fact, the recent attacks were brought about due to incessant race-baiting and agitation by the black activists and the Marxist mainstream media. Only after the fact do they distance themselves from the monster they created.

There's been a massive, coordinated effort to portray American patriots as extremists for some time now, no doubt because they do not want for the American people to have any sort of organized power structure which can resist their Zionist-communist takeover. They're the true enemy of the American republic, the ones who opened our borders wide for the Muslims and every third-world immigrant to waltz in, so that they could exploit the division to their own advantage. It's like a game to these godless people, to ruin every homogenous Christian nation.

We're instructed by Jesus to forgive trespasses and pray for our persecutors, it is understood. War should be averted, as a last resort against unjust aggression. The question becomes, where do we go from here? Our nation has tolerated so many assaults on so many levels, from enemies within and afar. How can we make God's kingdom come and His will be done while we're butchering the unborn, engaging in promiscuity and sexual deviancy, essentially allowing the a fringe-dweller Zion cult to run roughshod? Have we become so softened by our comforts and conveniences that we no longer care?

Anonymous Stilicho December 22, 2014 9:07 AM  

The problem with your analysis is it's not fine grained enough.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Exhibit A. Notice how he goes on to "outgroup" those government employees who implement the stupid leftist law under the theory that their hearts may not be totally down with the cause. He follows that with a false claim that a statist authority enforcing leftist laws is actually right-wing. Because authoritarian. And, finally, he changes the subject by claiming the leftist in-fighting is just an intra-governmental struggle between the left and the right when what we are actually witnessing is the far left attacking the center-left. It's just lapine cannibalism.

Anonymous The Praetorian Guard December 22, 2014 9:14 AM  

Americans openly arming to defend themselves against a corrupt federal government VD

It is hardly just the Federal government that is corrupt. In fact, the very purpose of the unionized, armed government worker is to protect the political class, who is protecting its benefactor and handler, the financial class. Works the same locally as it does nationally or globally. The micro is the macro is the micro.

Anonymous I was at Bundy Ranch, where the fuck were u? December 22, 2014 9:28 AM  

As a member of several "right wing miltia" groups over the past 25+ years, let me tell you this article is 100% total and complete BULLSHIT.

We on the right-wing don't hate cops. We hate FEDs. Federal marshalls, ATF, FBI, IRS, etc. NOT local guys.

And when it comes down to cops vs. blacks... well, you know whose side we will be on.

In fact, some of our biggest allies are the local country sherrifs...

So fuck you for coflating local law enforcment with Federal goons.

And don't worry, we "right wing militias" also keep lists of anti-cop libertarians.

Anonymous The Great Martini December 22, 2014 9:33 AM  

What's your definition of a leftist law vs. a rightist law? Or are all laws leftist by definition, in which case you win the argument by default.

Anonymous Meh December 22, 2014 9:33 AM  

Do you honestly think whites will adamantly keep blacks out of their communities? Never.

Yes. The SJW can only keep the lid on the natural and rational fear and hatred disparate groups feel for each other for so long. A dramatic reversal in attitudes is inevitable.

Blogger Josh December 22, 2014 9:47 AM  

Naturally, I'm waiting for the NYT to explain how this is all Reagan's fault.

Trickle Down Supply Side Economics cut government budgets to the point where local governments needed to raise cigarette taxes to fund basic necessities for the children and the elderly.

Blogger Josh December 22, 2014 9:50 AM  

And don't worry, we "right wing militias" also keep lists of anti-cop libertarians.

No you don't

Anonymous Stilicho December 22, 2014 9:51 AM  

What's your definition of a leftist law vs. a rightist law? Or are all laws leftist by definition, in which case you win the argument by default.

That's a fair question. In this case, I was using "leftist law" as a law enacted by a leftist government (Bloomberg and NYC council along with similar NY state cigarette tax laws), focusing more of the stupidity of the law than anything else. However, it is also fair to characterize the cigarette law as "leftist" due to its malum prohibitum attempt to simultaneously expand government coffers and power while proportionately reducing the liberty of citizens by criminalizing otherwise legal behavior. Everything inside the state, nothing outside the state. In the second sense, we see many laws that are "leftist" enacted by politicians of all stripes and perhaps "statist" would be a more useful label.

Anonymous The other skeptic December 22, 2014 9:52 AM  

After strangling a guy to death, they think they're totally clean. It's amazing. I am amazed.

As well as ignorant and/or mendacious as well. No surprise really.

Blogger Nate December 22, 2014 9:55 AM  

"And don't worry, we "right wing militias" also keep lists of anti-cop libertarians. "

***chuckle***

I've been deeply involved with militias and militia movement since it started back in the 90s. anyone that thinks the movement is uniform enough to makes this kind of blanket statement is ignorant.

There absolutely are militias that love their local cops.

And there absolutely are militias that will start with the local cops and work their way out.

Blogger Josh December 22, 2014 9:58 AM  

There absolutely are militias that love their local cops.

And there absolutely are militias that will start with the local cops and work their way out.


It's almost like there are regional variations or something...

Blogger Nate December 22, 2014 9:59 AM  

Generally speaking a militia's attitude toward local cops has more to do with the local cops than the militia's actual politics.

For example I know militia guys that love their county sheriff's department but the local city police will be the first on their To Do List.

I know another militia that has the exact opposite opinion.

So like I say... it has a great deal to do with the local guys and their perception of the local guys.

Blogger Nate December 22, 2014 10:00 AM  

"It's almost like there are regional variations or something..."

goes far deeper than region. probably varies county to county.

Blogger Nate December 22, 2014 10:02 AM  

also I didn't speak accurately. The militia movement didn't actually start in the 90s... but the 90s was when it really took off so I use that. It predates that surge... but the surge in the 90s was so big that it is a useful reference point.

Blogger Josh December 22, 2014 10:02 AM  

goes far deeper than region. probably varies county to county.

Also a good possibility our mister right wing Bundy ranch guy doesn't actually know anything about militias.

Blogger Josh December 22, 2014 10:05 AM  

Thus far, the lone-wolf attacks have been committed primarily by left-wing/socialist wackos.

Or Muslims.

Blogger Nate December 22, 2014 10:10 AM  

"Also a good possibility our mister right wing Bundy ranch guy doesn't actually know anything about militias."

Crazy talk! he was at the bundy ranch! therefore he is the only realest militia guy out there. Those idiots that went to ferguson and helped people defend their shops are obviously No True Militia Men... because they didn't leave when the local cops said to.

Blogger Josh December 22, 2014 10:13 AM  

Those idiots that went to ferguson and helped people defend their shops are obviously No True Militia Men... because they didn't leave when the local cops said to.

Also those No True Militia Men didn't lynch any negroes.

Anonymous Mr. Rational December 22, 2014 10:18 AM  

Black gets "sudden negro syndrome" and attacks whites and/or cops.

You mean "commits an act of spontaneous Blackness".

I observed elsewhere that the PTB, through their bought-and-paid-for government and wholly-owned media mouthpieces, are scared witless of anything like a militia.  They can direct their melanin-enhanced brownshirts at any target they desire, and they can order the police to stand down and let that target be destroyed, but a militia would put paid to any Ferguson-like mob in mere hours and probably leave Blacks scared stiff of attempting a repeat.  Such an event would destroy the PTB's best weapon against "little people" and also destroy the narrative of helplessness that they've been doing their best to create.

They are running scared of White people actually enforcing peace in White territory and eliminating their one remaining claim to legitimacy.

Anonymous The Night Porter December 22, 2014 10:25 AM  

The problems here are so multi-layered they cannot be unwound in a public debate in this political climate. The Garner case needs to be separated from Michael Brown. The fact is that NY cops (and I live in Williamsburg less than a mile from the "execution") feel a need to harass and then handcuff people, white or black, for offenses that would have been ignored in the 1980s or '90s. If you must ticket a man for selling loosies, why get so physical? Crime is at its lowest since the 1950s, literally. The notion that resisting being handcuffed is a death sentence needs to stop, period. The nanny state liberals passed that cigarette law and then send out armed, low IQ thugs to enforce it. When they kill a man doing it (and that's what they did), they complain about brutality. The only public figure who has managed to parse out the cases is Michael Savage. Those rushing to defend the cops in toto are either boot lickers or genuine racists. Imagine for a minute that Garner had been a fat redneck instead of a ghetto black. Be honest. If you think a man should be put into a choke-hold, and that 5-7 cops should be involved in arresting a man with no violent criminal history, then you want a genuine police state, period. Again, crime has never been lower yet the police engage in war emergency measures FOR ANYTHING. There is a genuine problem no matter how you slice it.

Blogger Josh December 22, 2014 10:32 AM  

Again, crime has never been lower yet the police engage in war emergency measures FOR ANYTHING. There is a genuine problem no matter how you slice it.

However, because of the internet, there's a perception that crime is higher than it's ever been. And it's not just the SBPDL/white girl bleed a lot morons, look at the rape culture hysteria.

Anonymous Cheddarman December 22, 2014 10:37 AM  

I am willing to bet a McDonalds happy meal that the Time Magazine article makes no mention of potential 4th Generation actors in the US among the various immigrant populations. Just about every immigrant group in U.S. history, with the possible exception of the Swedes, Norwegians, and Germans, had an element of violent organized crime associated with them. The German immigrant groups were certainly large enough to have an organized crime element; perhaps they are just more methodical and efficient than the Irish, Jews and Sicilians. For the life of me, I can’t imagine a Swedish or Norwegian mafia.

Blogger Shibes Meadow December 22, 2014 10:39 AM  

Don't you guys know ol' Bundy Ranch speaks for all militia members everywhere?

Bundy: I'm neither a libertarian nor anti-anybody, but please add me to your list, anyway. I look forward to seeing you.

Anonymous daddynichol December 22, 2014 10:42 AM  

Bundy is frantically working the Google-fu so he can spit out bits and blurbs to sound real smart like. He probably doesn't know which end of the gun goes, "Ban!"

Anonymous daddynichol December 22, 2014 10:43 AM  

BANG! Dammit.

Anonymous Hazel-Jeu December 22, 2014 10:43 AM  

"Of course, this is hardly news. I'd be more impressed with TIME's analysis if they had mentioned any actual numbers or focused on the threat being posed by those within the police ranks."

This is wishful thinking on the blogger's part. I suspect Time did not mention this because we dont see any evidence of threats from within the ranks of the police. Why? Probably because in those area where there is little violence, what's the point. And in those areas where this is lots of violence and crime that the police are engaged with, the ranks of the police feel a brotherhood with one another knowing that every day they walk into harms way. The blogger here has no experience at all with what many police officers face on a daily basis.

Anonymous Stg58 / Animal Mother December 22, 2014 10:45 AM  

Bundy Ranch Questions? Don't ask that guy.

Blogger Nate December 22, 2014 10:50 AM  

"However, because of the internet, there's a perception that crime is higher than it's ever been. "

given that 30% of white males have been arrested by the time they are 21... yeah... I would say crime is at an all time high.

Because normal behavior has been out-lawed.

Blogger Nate December 22, 2014 10:51 AM  

"Bundy Ranch Questions? Don't ask that guy. "

Poor dude had no idea he was commenting at Oath Keeper central...

Anonymous Stg58 / Animal Mother December 22, 2014 11:01 AM  

Nate, Isn't that why he commented? Ignorance abounds on the Internets. You never know who hangs out on blogs. I've made the same mistake once or twice myself.

Anonymous Red Comet December 22, 2014 11:04 AM  

Gee, a "Barton Gellman" ignores all evidence and tells everyone worry about those scary right-wing militias hiding around every corner? Never would have guessed.

Blogger Josh December 22, 2014 11:05 AM  

given that 30% of white males have been arrested by the time they are 21... yeah... I would say crime is at an all time high.

Because normal behavior has been out-lawed.


Perhaps I should clarify...crime is down using the common law definition of crime...

Anonymous Stg58 / Animal Mother December 22, 2014 11:07 AM  

What is crime?

Anonymous Harsh December 22, 2014 11:13 AM  

And don't worry, we "right wing militias" also keep lists of anti-cop libertarians.

Sounds like you don't know who the enemy is, son.

Anonymous VD December 22, 2014 11:13 AM  

The blogger here has no experience at all with what many police officers face on a daily basis.

Actually, Tad, the blogger has more experience with physical hand-to-hand combat than MOST police officers ever face in their careers. And most police officers never fire their guns even once.

Now go away. Once Yama's cyberstalking has been successfully dealt with, yours will be next. You are not permitted to comment here and you have been informed that on many occasions.

Anonymous Harsh December 22, 2014 11:14 AM  

The blogger here has no experience at all with what many police officers face on a daily basis.

I'd like to see proof for that assertion.

Anonymous Harsh December 22, 2014 11:15 AM  

Didn't see VD's comment above. I retract my request for proof.

Anonymous paradox December 22, 2014 11:15 AM  

Ah shut up... The thin line of bacon is full of assholes on the local level too. And I don't know what the hell this has to do with libertarians... some of us are centrists.

Anonymous Daniel December 22, 2014 11:18 AM  

If you like slapstick, you've got to love the media:

The steps are:

"OMG! White supremecists want to kill cops!"

Cop gets killed. Preliminary headline: "Racism Suspected in Cop Killing"

Suspect found.

"Mentally Ill Suspect Had Guns, Shedding Light on Plight of Minority Access to Health Care."

Every. Single. Time.

Performance Art. With Cream Pie. Splat!

Anonymous Harsh December 22, 2014 11:22 AM  

The article makes perfect sense if you understand that the typical American liberal thinks only straight white males have agency. She can never assign blame to a black or another woman or a gay because they are all victims of the system and are not responsible for their actions. Blacks could be roving the streets in murderous bands and the Times will never see it as a problem. Three white guys with shotguns, however, is a crisis. In their demented worldview, this makes sense.

Blogger Josh December 22, 2014 11:32 AM  

To clarify, the Times article was from 2010 during the height of the tea party.

Anonymous Sarcophilus December 22, 2014 11:39 AM  

I think this is why it must be made about race, not brutality. That way, things like civil forfeiture and the militarization won't get talked about.

The State's telos is order, to keep the peace. Morality only comes in if great temptations cause enough disruption. Their authority is only legitimate to that end.

What 4GW does is to force a choice between order and authority. Cause a trival or small disorder that does NOT breach the peace, but the only way to fight it is with such disproportionate means that the state itself destroys order and breaches the peace.

The police are the arms and hands of the law. This is why the rule of law is important. Glenn Greenwald wrote "With Liberty and Justice for Some" about the rich and powerful "elites". His points can apply to many police departments and individual police.

If I get robbed or hurt, they are supposed to do justice. Instead, they are the ones who rob, injure, and even kill. Does it matter if the person doing the bruising is black or blue?

Conservatives (as opposed to traditionalists) and liberals want a bunch of thugs to enforce petty rules of behavior. They only differ in the rules. But in the act of granting power, each day the mask of good paladin doing justice slips to reveal more of the face of mercenary thug.

Anonymous 10900209 December 22, 2014 11:41 AM  

>In a lengthy six-page article entitled “The Secret World of Extremist Militias,” then-Time Contributing Editor-at-Large Barton Gellman made the case that America should be deeply worried about private citizens forming militias.

>Gellman

Another member of the kosher crowd. What a surprise.

Blogger Max Johnson December 22, 2014 12:07 PM  

Yes yes yes.
All of the armchair war general shit is for the theory trash heap. Stack it up beside Darwin and Marxism.
Niggs gonna be niggs.
Towel heads gonna be towel heads.
The mixing and mingling is the problem; not to mention the average black has no capacity to engage in abstract thought and be rational.

Anonymous Jack Amok December 22, 2014 12:09 PM  

I am thoroughly amused at the cognitive dissonance on the left over this...a leftist government killed a member of a leftist bloc over a petty violation of an incredibly stupid leftist law....a member of a leftist bloc killing two employees of a leftist government in retaliation...co-workers of the leftist government employees who killed the member of the leftist bloc are angry at the head of the leftist government... As Vox says, they always turn on each other eventually

Briliant summary. Leftists built their coalition out of grifters, control freaks and self-marginalized people. Parasites really. It's in their nature to leech off of anything that's big, so the more they win, the more they turn on each other. They can't help it, it's their nature.

.Right now, it appears the police are the favored target given that they can serve as a scapegoat for the stupid leftist law.

Conservatives aren't the only ones who harbor outdated notions of what police are these days. As Martini quickly illustrated. Of course, it's necessary for Leftists, as they have to have someone to blame when their plans inevitably fail. Doesn't bode well for them in the long run though, seeing as how they have this congenital need to spit on armed groups, even their own armed groups.

Blogger Max Johnson December 22, 2014 12:11 PM  

Any statistics to back up your stupid assertion cops are generally right wing?

Blogger Max Johnson December 22, 2014 12:19 PM  

Where? In a dojo? At a gym? Vox, I love ya bro, but your constant butt-fucking of yourself while your ego pushes is pathetic.
You have never, NEVER, been knee deep in negro thug bullshit on a daily basis.
Fuck you hand to hand crap; if you lived your life trying to keep law and order in the hellhole that is urban America, I'd almost see your point. But your just a keyboard thug with clever writing skills and a massive echo chamber to pile on any inrefuttable assertions.

Blogger Max Johnson December 22, 2014 12:21 PM  

Bull.
Most SJWs will let a thug have his way with his wife as opposed to joining the right.

Blogger Josh December 22, 2014 12:21 PM  

You have never, NEVER, been knee deep in negro thug bullshit on a daily basis.

Have you?

Blogger Nate December 22, 2014 12:22 PM  

"not to mention the average black has no capacity to engage in abstract thought and be rational."

The average white man has an IQ of 100. he isn't capable of abstract thought either.

Blogger Nate December 22, 2014 12:24 PM  

"You have never, NEVER, been knee deep in negro thug bullshit on a daily basis."

He's a former D-1 athlete ya moron. You think he was surrounded by white sprinters?

Blogger Josh December 22, 2014 12:26 PM  

Fuck you hand to hand crap; if you lived your life trying to keep law and order in the hellhole that is urban America, I'd almost see your point.

I believe what we have here is another example of DISQUALIFY!

Blogger Frank Brady December 22, 2014 12:28 PM  

The entire "Left" vs. "Right" political taxonomy is stupid because it is binary. Most liberty-loving thinking people (at least the ones that I know) aren't either. The Fox News channel is a great example of the flaw. Fox is just as in favor of federal control as MSNBC. It even supports most of Obama's wet dream (amnesty, ObamaCare (albeit more covertly). The only difference is it would prefer to see more resources committed (and more blood shed) to advance the empire.

Blogger Nate December 22, 2014 12:34 PM  

Max? Where'd ya go Max? We're just getting started. Don't run off yet!

Anonymous ThirdMonkey December 22, 2014 12:52 PM  

Max Johnson,

If the "negro thug" is such a badass, why did he loose Compton and Chicago's south side to the hombres coming from south of the border? Lequan can't raise his game above the knockout game and the occassional drive-by. Jorge, on the other hand, will cut you up in little pieces, stuff your parts in a duffel bag, and leave it on your momma's doorstep. The "negro thug" is neither smart enough to take on whitey long-term, or cruel enough to take on brown in the short-term.

Blogger Josh December 22, 2014 12:54 PM  

If the "negro thug" is such a badass, why did he loose Compton and Chicago's south side to the hombres coming from south of the border?

White Privilege

Blogger Max Johnson December 22, 2014 1:13 PM  

So the Spic takes over a negro area, and that's proof of what?
When have whites formed any kind of gang to clash head on with blacks or spics? American History X?
Whites are terrified of blacks. Always have been, always will be.
Typing the shit and going face to face is different, son.
I could care less what ethnic group controls what area; all your doing is shifting hues. Whites still won't venture in there.

Blogger Max Johnson December 22, 2014 1:15 PM  

I was banging your old lady.
Or working.

Blogger Max Johnson December 22, 2014 1:17 PM  

You bet it is, sport.
Until any of you show any proof you've mixed it up in the real world with real danger...DISQUALIFY.
You so clever. I bet you get the tingles when you come up with a clever retort, dont ya?

Blogger Josh December 22, 2014 1:20 PM  

Until any of you show any proof you've mixed it up in the real world with real danger...DISQUALIFY.

And you've done this?

Where's your proof?

Blogger Max Johnson December 22, 2014 1:21 PM  

You dumbass...
Atheletes aren't in the ghetto surrounded by meth heads, crack dealers, screaming niglets who have been abandoned by their parents; teenage junkies with AIDS trying to fight you if you offer help.
I'll take it being in the NCAA with cushy locker rooms and personal trainers is similar.
Because street cred.

Blogger Max Johnson December 22, 2014 1:22 PM  

Yes. Yes I have.
My proof is my word. I'm sorry I have no links to my service time is USMC OR Chicago PD.
But hey...I'm a pig.

Anonymous ZhukovG December 22, 2014 1:24 PM  

Max,

As a former costume and badge wearing, tax feeder of the porcine variety; I have to say that your ranting is rather difficult to follow. I caution you that public drunkenness may be against the law in your jurisdiction.

Now, I dealt with African Americans quite regularly. Most were quite law abiding, for a given value of law abiding. Which is to say, they mostly didn’t do anything that was going result in paperwork for myself. I always considered such people, who kept me paperless, as the finest of citizens.

I do not deny that things, particularly in the urban enclaves, have deteriorated. But, the police are doing themselves no favors by engaging in excessively aggressive behavior. They are alienating a lot of people and are more and more seen as merely the hired muscle of a hostile occupying State.

I cannot imagine any situation in which it is acceptable to gun down a 12 year old boy who poses no direct threat to anyone.

Blogger Josh December 22, 2014 1:25 PM  

My proof is my word.

Well then it should be easy to take vox or myself or anyone else at our word, since you've deemed that an acceptable standard.

So...this means you'll have to do better than DISQUALIFY!

Blogger Nate December 22, 2014 1:35 PM  

Yes max. You are a pig.

Anonymous Harsh December 22, 2014 1:38 PM  

Until any of you show any proof you've mixed it up in the real world with real danger...DISQUALIFY.

Let's see yours first, hotshot.

Blogger Josh December 22, 2014 1:40 PM  

Let's see yours first, hotshot.

To quote Maxi Pads,

My proof is my word. I'm sorry I have no links to my service time is USMC OR Chicago PD.

Anonymous Joel p. December 22, 2014 1:40 PM  

When have whites formed any kind of gang to clash head on with blacks or spics? American History X?

I think they called them the Ku Klux Klan. They've made a lot of movies about them over the years. Perhaps you've heard of them.

Blogger Josh December 22, 2014 1:43 PM  

Whites are terrified of blacks. Always have been, always will be.

Maybe Yankees are, but then again Yankees seem to be terrified of a great many things.

Anonymous Harsh December 22, 2014 1:45 PM  

When have whites formed any kind of gang to clash head on with blacks or spics? American History X?

Yes, we have. We call them the police.

Blogger Josh December 22, 2014 1:46 PM  

Hey look max, HuffPo has an entire section dedicated to the great job you and your liberal democrat buddies are doing protecting and serving the people of Chicago:

http://m.huffpost.com/us/tag/chicago-police-shootings

Anonymous VD December 22, 2014 1:52 PM  

Where? In a dojo? At a gym? Vox, I love ya bro, but your constant butt-fucking of yourself while your ego pushes is pathetic.

In the club. The night club. Specifically, Prince's night club on one occasion, another night club on the other two. One time, a guy ended up getting his throat slashed. Another, I ended up with someone else's blood covering my forearms.

Blogger Nate December 22, 2014 1:54 PM  

"Whites are terrified of blacks. Always have been, always will be. "


BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous ZhukovG December 22, 2014 1:57 PM  

"Whites are terrified of blacks. Always have been, always will be. "

Hmmm, maybe he was a Chicago cop.

Blogger Nate December 22, 2014 1:57 PM  

'When have whites formed any kind of gang to clash head on with blacks or spics? "

what about that time that Europe colonized Africa?

Blogger Josh December 22, 2014 1:58 PM  

When have whites formed any kind of gang to clash head on with blacks or spics?

Um, Cortez?

Blogger Nate December 22, 2014 2:02 PM  

i wish these people would make up their minds... are whites total weak cowards... or are whites the most evil violent threat in the world? can't be both.

Anonymous ZhukovG December 22, 2014 2:02 PM  

'When have whites formed any kind of gang to clash head on with blacks or spics? "

After one of my ancestors got out of the Army (of Northern Virginia). He helped start a group called ‘The Knights of the White Camellia’. Now granted, most of their targets were actually white (carpet baggers), but occasionally they had to perform educational work amongst the African American community.

Do they count?

Blogger Chris Mallory December 22, 2014 2:02 PM  

"But hey...I'm a pig."
"Yes max. You are a pig."


No, pigs are useful, intelligent creatures. Max, if he is taken at his word, is neither. He is a government employee, neither useful nor intelligent.

Blogger Nate December 22, 2014 2:04 PM  

Doesn't Texas exist today because a bunch of white people from Tennessee got pissed off and took it from the spics?

Blogger Nate December 22, 2014 2:04 PM  

and what about that white dude that got together like 40 of his best redneck friends and conquered nicaragua?

Anonymous cheddarman December 22, 2014 2:06 PM  

When have whites formed any kind of gang to clash head on with blacks or spics? American History X? -Max

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Klan

Max, in the late 20s or early 30's about 1/3 of the white male population of the state of Indiana were members of the above mentioned group.
Some of them would regularly cross of the border from Indiana into Mercer county, Ohio, where my dad grew up, and do their cross burnings.

I'm not sure what the response of the Catholic community was, but i doubt they laid down and whimpered like dogs. I believe they formed some kind of local militia in response, but i am not sure.

by the way, Indiana is Yankee territory, if you ask Nate or Josh or any of the other Southrons who comment here regularly.

Blogger Josh December 22, 2014 2:07 PM  

Do they count?

No, for some reason max will get around to telling us about.

Also aren't their Aryan nation gangs that run some prisons?

Blogger Josh December 22, 2014 2:08 PM  

by the way, Indiana is Yankee territory, if you ask Nate or Josh or any of the other Southrons who comment here regularly.

With all due respect, you bastards did invade us...

Anonymous Harsh December 22, 2014 2:12 PM  

i wish these people would make up their minds... are whites total weak cowards... or are whites the most evil violent threat in the world? can't be both.

You're assuming that people argue using reason.

Blogger Nate December 22, 2014 2:17 PM  

think he regrets making that idiotic statement about cowardly white folks yet?

Blogger Josh December 22, 2014 2:20 PM  

Oh...and regarding the colonization of Africa, didn't Belgium murder millions of people in the Congo?

Little Belgium...aka the speed bump between Germany and Paris...killed millions of blacks all by its little waffle making self.

Anonymous Stilicho December 22, 2014 2:23 PM  

With all due respect, you bastards did invade us...

I've invaded them right back. I probably won't make the occupation permanent though.

Anonymous Jack Amok December 22, 2014 2:27 PM  

'When have whites formed any kind of gang to clash head on with blacks or spics? "

Never. Assuming you think history started about when The Teletubbies went off the air.

Anonymous Jack Amok December 22, 2014 2:31 PM  

Besides, whites don't have time to form gangs because we have jobs. Of course, the way things are going, that won't be an obstacle much longer...

Anonymous cheddarman December 22, 2014 2:35 PM  

"by the way, Indiana is Yankee territory, if you ask Nate or Josh or any of the other Southrons who comment here regularly." - Cheddarman

"With all due respect, you bastards did invade us"...Josh

Josh, I am a Copperhead, and so were the folks in Mercer county Ohio, back at the start of the war of northern agression. When the Union originally tried to start conscription in Mercer county, Ohio, the county called up the militia and drove out the draft organizers. Not everyone born north of the Mason Dixon line was eager for war.

Blogger skiballa December 22, 2014 2:36 PM  

Nate,
I think he may regret it, I can kinda understand where he's coming from, but wow, what logic! I do hope he'll explain how being in the USMC equates to fighting back against urban vibrants. Though I guess I'll grant the point on CPD.

While 18-25 year old white males largely make up that pansy hipster subculture, they also make up the vast(very vast) majority of front-line infantry troops.

Blogger Josh December 22, 2014 3:01 PM  

I do hope he'll explain how being in the USMC equates to fighting back against urban vibrants.

The jihadists and vibrants both like to have sex with livestock?

Anonymous Stg58 / Animal Mother December 22, 2014 3:15 PM  

Now would be a great time to post my "ISIS Goat Bride Approves" meme.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper December 22, 2014 3:31 PM  

Time kind of has a point, the occasional left wing lone wolf whack-a-do is much less of a threat to the established Leftist power base than Right Wing militias.

Also the rhetoric on the Right has changed a bit since the 1990's. Its a lot more aggressive, smarter , technologically and tactically savvy and from the POV of the press much scaier since the media is now regarded as part of the enemy coallation. Of the fact that they can blame the Clinton administration attack on media in Bosnia for that is lost on them but hey, whoeever said leftists were consistent.

Blogger Owen December 22, 2014 3:51 PM  

Time kind of has a point, the occasional left wing lone wolf whack-a-do is much less of a threat to the established Leftist power base than Right Wing militias.

I think you're right.

Does the establishment fear the disorganized rabble, lone wolf attack? Heck, no. That's useful for them to keep the sheep in line. That's the big, scary "other."

It's the organized, aligned, and disciplined (at least in a general sense) groups challenging the government's authority on all things under the sun that concern the powers-that-be.

Rabble can be paid off with shiny baubles.

True believers, across the political spectrum, are a different breed. And when the groups challenge Big Guv, Big Guv takes it seriously.

Anonymous Dumb founded December 22, 2014 3:58 PM  

Steal your parent's guns and take them to school:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/12/gun-control-psa-advocates-advocates-that-children-steal-their-parents-guns-bring-them-to-school-video/

Blogger Owen December 22, 2014 4:07 PM  

DF,
That's the single dumbest PSA I've seen...I think (there may be dumber ones I forgot). There's not much more "wrong" you can put into that video.

I will say that I found it interesting that he disarmed what appeared to be a single mom (no "dad" present). I never would've suspected that move.

Anonymous Curtis December 22, 2014 4:07 PM  

Not me. The mayor has been stirring up the natives for political reasons, and this kind of crap is the result. The cops have every right to point it out.

And all the Mayor was saying, is hey, tone it down. And the police and their union, have a hissy-fit. Concerning the protests and the protesters… let them get it out of their system, up to a certain point. Lets not exacerbate the situation with more broken heads, more jail fodder, more reasons to protest, which will lead to more broken heads and more resentment. And the cops and the cop unions, have a hissy-fit.

To the cops and the cop union, tone it down means… we can’t be a standing occupying Army. It means toning down the fear factor they wish to instill in the hearts and minds of their subjects.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus December 22, 2014 4:17 PM  

Josh: "However, because of the internet, there's a perception that crime is higher than it's ever been. And it's not just the SBPDL/white girl bleed a lot morons, look at the rape culture hysteria."

Typical anti-white DISQUALIFY. Simply reading information sources summons forth the accusations of stupid / crazy / evil.

Anonymous BigGaySteve December 22, 2014 4:28 PM  

"Do you honestly think whites will adamantly keep blacks out of their communities? Never."

Even gays that have to be around blacks stop drinking the kool aid, and our strike rights /strike special benefits are tied to blacks being equal. Gays that went to help with Katrina came back talking about the Turner Diaries. Gays that give up on gentrification even more so. Ambassador Stevens asked for real security a month before he died because the mud slums being paid to protect him where anti-gay, anti-white and pro- jihad. Bath house Barry, & Shillery's response was "2 out of 3 aint bad". Working at an inner city hospital for a couple years while living in the gayborhood made me aware of how my gay tax dollars got spent.

Mayor de Blasé is worse than Nanny Bloomers. His security squad should all call off sick, like when Chicongo's mayor's son had a security lapse. Many city cops are outgunned by gang bangers you cant have Mayberry cops without Mayberry demographics.
What happened to being able to strike out words?

Blogger Josh December 22, 2014 4:31 PM  

Typical anti-white DISQUALIFY. Simply reading information sources summons forth the accusations of stupid / crazy / evil.

Who am I disqualifying? Violent crime is down over the last two decades, the raw numbers as well as the rates. And yet the sensationalist corner of the internet acts like crime is way up.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/1tabledatadecoverviewpdf/table_1_crime_in_the_united_states_by_volume_and_rate_per_100000_inhabitants_1993-2012.xls#disablemobile

Anonymous libertarians are faggots December 22, 2014 4:34 PM  

the neocons and libertarians are rabidly trying to have us take sides AGAINST the police and WITH the blacks...

Hmmmm, I wonder why....

Blogger Chris Mallory December 22, 2014 4:41 PM  

"the neocons and libertarians are rabidly trying to have us take sides AGAINST the police and WITH the blacks..."

A cop is more dangerous to any white man than a whole herd of blacks. You can defend yourself against blacks being out of control. Against the out of control cops if you defend yourself then you might as well flush your life down the toilet. Cops are just another gang.

Blogger Josh December 22, 2014 4:43 PM  

the neocons and libertarians are rabidly trying to have us take sides AGAINST the police and WITH the blacks...

Hmmmm, I wonder why....


Can't have a police state without the police

Anonymous Jack Amok December 22, 2014 5:03 PM  

the neocons and libertarians are rabidly trying to have us take sides AGAINST the police and WITH the blacks...

You misunderstand who's being asked to take sides, noob.

Anonymous Noah B. December 22, 2014 5:04 PM  

"A cop is more dangerous to any white man than a whole herd of blacks. You can defend yourself against blacks being out of control. Against the out of control cops if you defend yourself then you might as well flush your life down the toilet. Cops are just another gang."

A US resident is much more likely to be killed or otherwise attacked by blacks than by the police. This is true for any race, but the numbers for blacks are especially striking since so many of them are killed by other blacks. Just because police have a great deal of power doesn't mean they are especially likely to use it. Mostly, they just want to sit around and collect their paychecks.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus December 22, 2014 5:05 PM  

Josh: "However, because of the internet, there's a perception that crime is higher than it's ever been. And it's not just the SBPDL/white girl bleed a lot morons, look at the rape culture hysteria."

Titus Didius Tacitus: "Typical anti-white DISQUALIFY. Simply reading information sources summons forth the accusations of stupid / crazy / evil."

Josh: "Who am I disqualifying?"

Readers of Paul Kersey and/or Colin Flaherty.

Anonymous Noah B. December 22, 2014 5:14 PM  

However, because of the internet, there's a perception that crime is higher than it's ever been. And it's not just the SBPDL/white girl bleed a lot morons, look at the rape culture hysteria.

True, but the same can be said of police use of force. Before internet use was widespread, it's highly unlikely that you, I, or most other people would have heard about a young man in Ferguson getting shot after assaulting a police officer, or of another young man in Florida who was shot after an unprovoked assault. We didn't see a dashcam video posted on Youtube every time a cop used force to make an arrest.

Blogger Chris Mallory December 22, 2014 5:33 PM  

" Mostly, they just want harass people and demand that you respect them."

FIFY

I will take blacks over cops any day of the week. I can go for days without seeing a black. Wish it was that way for the tax fattened thugs.

Blogger Nate December 22, 2014 6:08 PM  

"Readers of Paul Kersey and/or Colin Flaherty."

That's not disqualify Titus. That's an argument that directly attacks the position of those authors.

it doesn't say you're by association because "bad". It says you're wrong by association because FBI Stats say your source is wrong.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus December 22, 2014 6:22 PM  

Nate: "That's not disqualify Titus. That's an argument that directly attacks the position of those authors."

No. "Morons" is an insult and a disqualification, specifically the "stupid" disqualification, not an argument.

Secondly, the later "argument" assumes a position that is not the one either of those authors argues. Paul Kersey is about how blacks take over formerly white cities and run them down, which is true. Flaherty is about the non-reporting and downplaying of black-on-white crime, which is also true.

Both authors are the go-to sources on their issues of concern, so not reading them makes you uninformed on these topics.

Typical anti-whites yell "morons!" at those who inform themselves; apparently the way not to be a "moron!" would be to be an ignorant pawn of the anti-white mass media.

Blogger Nate December 22, 2014 6:27 PM  

Also... apparently solipsism isn't limited to women.

Blogger Nate December 22, 2014 6:42 PM  

"No. "Morons" is an insult and a disqualification, specifically the "stupid" disqualification, not an argument."

I don't see the words moron or stupid in josh's comments.

So are you just off your meds or what?

Anonymous Isidore560 December 22, 2014 6:53 PM  

I'm assuming you're living in the South ?

That was one of the hardest things for me to get used to- the way white urban northerners kow -tow to blacks. The blacks definitely take advantage and become more vicious because they can get away with it.

I'm the Deep South there's less animosity. ( though it definitely is there) because a white southern will often fight with them and shoot them.

I will never forget the first time a black guy threatened to kill me in St. Louis. I stood my ground and it seemed to drive his irrational bloodlust into overdrive. He just couldn't take this brown guy standing up to him. Every non black is suppose to cower and flee, which is how northerners deal with negro dysfunction and cruelty.

It really is night and. Years in Oklahoma, years in Texas, not one racist statement. Two months in St. Louis and two negros had already threatened to kill me.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus December 22, 2014 7:02 PM  

Nate, you're doing the DISQUALIFY dance too, using accusations to silence truth. Except you've escalated from stupid to crazy, or "off your meds".

Nate: "I don't see the words moron or stupid in josh's comments.

So are you just off your meds or what?"

Josh: "However, because of the internet, there's a perception that crime is higher than it's ever been. And it's not just the SBPDL/white girl bleed a lot --> morons <--, look at the rape culture hysteria."

Emphasis added. Apparently your bias is so strong the pointers are needed.

Blogger Nate December 22, 2014 8:23 PM  

"Josh: "However, because of the internet, there's a perception that crime is higher than it's ever been. And it's not just the SBPDL/white girl bleed a lot --> morons <--, look at the rape culture hysteria." "

I'll be damned. I did miss it. Mea Culpa.

The point still stands though. You don't understand the "disqualify" tactic. We call those types morons because they believe the idiotic shit those authors write.

Blogger automatthew December 22, 2014 9:44 PM  

"We call those types morons because they believe the idiotic shit those authors write."

But without actually ever making the argument. You assert, point, and disqualify.

Anonymous liljoe December 22, 2014 11:56 PM  

trying to keep law and order in the hellhole that is urban America

someone been watching a little too much Dick Wolfe-produced television

Blogger Eric December 23, 2014 1:16 AM  

If the "negro thug" is such a badass, why did he loose Compton and Chicago's south side to the hombres coming from south of the border?

As Stalin pointed out, quantity has a quality all its own.

Anonymous meh2 December 23, 2014 5:46 AM  

"The nationally renowned publication"

Ahahah.....when was the last time that Time magazine was really "nationally renowned"? 1980? 1990? Certainly not since the mass adoption of the Internet.

Steve Sailer likes to point out that MSM lefties are stuck in a time warp - it is always 1964 for them. The Klan is a vast and powerful force out there "in the hinterland", right wingers are always organizing and threatening violence. Black churches are burning and negroes are being lynched. Any day now a redneck Mussolini will arise and march on Washington!

They are detached from reality. As long as they hold the Megaphone we will never be able to address and discuss real public issues in a rational manner.

OpenID ymarsakar December 23, 2014 8:07 AM  

The police unions are in on it, and they need a way to gin up obedience and dues from their stormtrooper expendables. Now the LEOs may or may not think like Bush II, but that won't save their hide or absolve them of guilt.

The police unions use a lot of their money to fund Democrats.

On the other faction side, we have the Sharptons, Nation of Islam, Black Panthers, etc. They also fund Democrats, but they aren't necessarily the same Democrats as the union bosses.

Then there's the lawyer unions making bank on the various lawsuits, police aggression and roe violations, and so on. Those lawyer unions also use their funding for Democrats.

Same alliance, different thugs, basically.

As for crime being down in the US, that's difficult to analyze. A lot of it certainly has to do with Democrat fiefdoms ordering police to cover up evidence of felonices. Some odd years ago a Republican couple was seen leaving a Republican fund raiser in New Orleans at night. They found a few people shadowing them on the street and decided to run off around the corner (away from the lights). Bad idea. The woman got something broken, and the male got a kind of concussion. When the NOPD came along, they labeled it some kind of public disorder conduct, not a felony assault and battery. Ethnicity of the crims? What ethnicity, there's no felony or crime here, move along.

Then there's the NOPD confiscating guns from civilians in New Orleans before Katrina. A lot of Democrat cities and fiefdoms are like this, whether people know it or not. Since a lot of the population and crimes occur in cities, the federal statistics are like Enron's books. They're cooked to an extent.

But since Hussein Obola came on the scene, as well as WACO and Ruby Ridge, private corporations like security companies in Detroit or international ones like Target Focus Training, have been providing training to the civilians, allowing them to punch back (1000x) as hard. That and buying up all the ammo in Existence, has indeed helped cut crime off. Use the site "gun saves lives" website. More crooks dead, equals less crime right.

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