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Sunday, January 18, 2015

A Pink SF pet on the Oscars

Saladin Ahmed ‏@saladinahmed
Not a single one of the TWENTY actors/actresses nominated for Oscars in 2015 is a person of color. Not one. That's called white supremacy.

Vox Day ‏@voxday
Actually, white supremacy is what prevents people like Saladin Ahmed from throwing gays off rooftops.

Mr. Ahmed, in case you were unaware, is Pink SF's token Mahometan. He was an affirmative action nominee for the Hugo, Nebula, Crawford, Gemmell, and British Fantasy awards in 2013 for a mediocre debut novel called Throne of the Crescent Moon. It's rather amusing to see him alternate SJW poses with statements like his post-Hebdo assault on free speech in the New York Times.
The question for writers and artists, then, is not whether we ought to limit ourselves, but how we already limit ourselves. In a field dominated by privileged voices, it's not enough to say "Mock everyone!" In an unequal world, satire that mocks everyone equally ends up serving the powerful. And in the context of brutal inequality, it is worth at least asking what preexisting injuries we are adding our insults to. The belief that satire is a courageous art beholden to no one is intoxicating. But satire might be better served by an honest reckoning of whose voices we hear and don't hear, of who we mock and who we don't, and why.
'Twas also more than a little amusing to see how quick the pinkshirts were to rush in and assure Mr. Ahmed THEY STILL CONSIDER HIM TO BE ONE OF THEM. They've learned absolutely nothing from the Charlie Hebdo massacres. So I suspect it's going to be even more amusing to watch as they gradually turn on him over the next decade.
D Franklin ‏@D_Libris
Or hollow laughter at the hypocritical, mendacious evil of VD, & hugs for Saladin who has to put up with that shit

Charlie Stross ‏@cstross
congratulations! You’ve drawn the ire of SF’s very worst self-defeating loser. You level up!

Haralambi Markov ‏@HaralambiMarkov
That's not cute. That's just insulting. Oh My Everything.

Sean ‏@Sea_Bunker
I musta missed the part where you (SA) are a violent homophobe. Vox, on the other hand...

Jim C. Hines ‏@jimchines
That ... but ... huh?

Always Randy ‏@RandyTheRandom
What is preventing me from throwing White Supremacist Assholes from rooftops, though?

Charlie Stross ‏@cstross
if I followed VD’s totalising logic, gay unitarians would be as dangerous to Jews as the Aryan Nations.

BenjanunSriduangkaew ‏@bees_ja
Holy shit. Sorry he's using queer people to concern-troll you, wow.

Matt Forbeck ‏@mforbeck
Ah, what a jackass. I’d stay “stunning jackass” but we’ve come to expect it by now.

Bootleg Girl ‏@BootlegGirl
Seriously though I "love" how atheist libertarians who are massive bigots project their own desires onto Muslims

Jim C. Hines ‏@jimchines
VD stretching the truth? I am shocked. Shocked, I say!

Rae Carson ‏@raecarson 31m31 minutes ago
Ugh, Saladin, I'm so sorry you have to deal with shitbags like him.

Nightjar UrsulaV ‏@UrsulaV
Its's like he's got a bigot magnetic poetry kit and arranges these on his fridge.

Fledgist ‏@Fledgist
One should be measured by the enemies one attracts.

Charlie Stross ‏@cstross
Yes, but going by VD is like measuring yourself against the stench of the dog turd you just stepped in.
One subtle irony that will probably escape the average reader is the way Benjanun Sriduangkaew is attempting to worm her way back into the warren here. She was quasi-excommunicated from the Pink SF community two months ago when her alternate identity was exposed as being the notorious Requires Only That You Hate.

UPDATE: See, the pinkshirts are really all about the tolerance. And free speech.

Really Tired Wanker ‏@benfromcanada
@saladinahmed god damn these people

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87 Comments:

Anonymous the OC January 18, 2015 3:03 PM  

"@saladinahmed: Dead Arabs sell. RT @Variety #AmericanSniper aims for biggest weekend of Eastwood's career bit.ly/14SlrKw

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 18, 2015 3:05 PM  

I wonder how he thinks dissidents to his theology should be treated? I'm sure his taboos conflict at some point with the rabbit taboos, let them fight over it.

Anonymous Steve January 18, 2015 3:09 PM  

"Actually, white supremacy is what prevents people like Saladin Ahmed from throwing gays off rooftops."

Harsh, but fair.

Though, of course, if white supremacy was a real thing, Mr Achmed wouldn't only dare not criticise it, he wouldn't even be in the US.

Anonymous the OC January 18, 2015 3:10 PM  

"I'm sure his taboos conflict at some point with the rabbit taboos, let them fight over it."

...they won't as long as they can collectively mock Phil from Duck Dynesty... and white Christian men like you.

Anonymous Daniel January 18, 2015 3:21 PM  

Hey! Stop defending gays from terrorists...er, you can't possibly care about gays, so you must hate terrorists...or, Ahmed doesn't kill people, Islam kills people...NAMALT???

Nice rabbit wheel you set up there. You might want to stock up on grease, because they'll never get off of it.

Why do they hate Native Americans?

Anonymous Daniel January 18, 2015 3:22 PM  

Also: you really should be more careful about what you tweet.

They might induct you into the SFWA to ban you again.

OpenID malcolmthecynic January 18, 2015 3:23 PM  

Actually, white supremacy is what prevents people like Saladin Ahmed from throwing gays off rooftops.

It has to feel awesome to be able to say that without being white.

Anonymous The other skeptic January 18, 2015 3:29 PM  

Am I evil if I imagine Muslims taking the Supremes to the top of a building and throwing them off?

Blogger JDC January 18, 2015 3:29 PM  

The warren is always glad to have whipped supplicants return to the fold. As long as they confess their heresy, sit in the corner of the room, and remember their place. Whipped rabbits gladly accept their designated cage, offering placating words to the colony. So long as they remember that the warren's demands are simple...believe and say everything we do or else you're out again.

Blogger Pinakeli January 18, 2015 3:33 PM  

The other skeptic January 18, 2015 3:29 PM

Am I evil if I imagine Muslims taking the Supremes to the top of a building and throwing them off?


If you mean the singers from the '60s, yeah.

But the Court, throw twice.

Blogger TheCitadel January 18, 2015 3:34 PM  

Please, let the Muslims have the sodomites. Saves us having to put up with them. Ship them all to Saudi Arabia.

Anonymous Harsh January 18, 2015 3:47 PM  

Accusing a Mexican/Native American of white supremacy? Maybe the pinkshirts understand satire after all.

Blogger RandalThorn January 18, 2015 3:50 PM  

"They might induct you into the SFWA to ban you again."

Well, doesn't Vox has to actually molest some children for that to happen?

Blogger bob k. mando January 18, 2015 4:06 PM  

Benjanun Sriduangkaew is attempting to worm her way back into the warren here. She was quasi-excommunicated from the Pink SF community two months ago when her alternate identity was exposed as being the notorious Requires Only That You Hate.

...

She is also—as a shocked publishing world recently learned—a notorious troll with a decade-long history of spewing violent, homophobic, transphobic, racist, and sexist hate speech.



wtf?

no, seriously. WHAT. THE. FUCK???

her whole RequiresHate persona was built around critiquing fiction on that basis that it was *insufficiently* feminist + genderqueer + anti-white + anti-Christian.

now she's being accused of homophobia and racism?

this makes no damn sense.


known for attacking minorities

attacking someone WHO HAPPENS TO BE some sort of minority is a completely different category than someone BECAUSE THEY ARE a minority.

we see this idiocy in play regularly when we criticize Obamalamadingdong.

when i say, "Jimmy Carter was one of our most ineffectual Presidents, ever", am i being racist?

*facepalm*


well, clearly, i AM being racist against Jimmy Carter. what other explanation could there be?


i'm not going to say that RequiresHate didn't actually make attacks on queers / minorities because they were queers / minorities qua queers / minorities.

but i'm certainly not going to take the word of some hipster SJW queen about it.

Anonymous the OC January 18, 2015 4:06 PM  

Sounds legit:

https://mobile.twitter.com/saladinahmed/status/556870687756156929

Blogger RobertT January 18, 2015 4:18 PM  

Screw Stross

Anonymous Salt January 18, 2015 4:19 PM  

What's @Scalzi have to say about Sriduangkaew? Have his panties loosened up enough to allow him to speak?

Blogger Danby January 18, 2015 4:28 PM  

@theOC,
Saladin seems to have deleted the tweet you linked to.

Anonymous the OC January 18, 2015 4:35 PM  

Danby... more where that one came from:

https://mobile.twitter.com/saladinahmed/status/555216055782887424

Anonymous Jack Amok January 18, 2015 4:46 PM  

Well, doesn't Vox has to actually molest some children for that to happen?

By "that" I assume you mean be inducted into the SFWA.

Anonymous Jack Amok January 18, 2015 4:49 PM  

Reading that DaikyDot article on discovering the troll identity, I'm astonished at haw meandering, tangential and tedious these people are when they write about a subject they're uncomfortable about.

Anonymous cecilhenry January 18, 2015 4:55 PM  

White supremacy is when whites do something better than anyone else... and every envious parasite wants a piece of the accomplishment

White supremacy sometimes means just that-- whites are superior. And for the envious and hateful that's just unbearable.

Hell NO.

Blogger Cataline Sergius January 18, 2015 5:19 PM  

Not to be pedantic here but Saladin is not an Arab name. In fact it's not even Kurd which Ṣalāḥ ad-Dīn Yūsuf ibn Ayyūb most definitely was.

Saladin was as close the crusaders could get.

I'm surprised his parents named him that.

Assuming he didn't name himself that.

Anonymous the OC January 18, 2015 5:27 PM  

"Saladin" could be a pen name.

I wonder what mosque he attends in Dearborn?

Blogger Cataline Sergius January 18, 2015 5:32 PM  

I'm betting pen name.

Anonymous the OC January 18, 2015 5:40 PM  

Wikipedia:

Ahmed was born in 1975 in Detroit, Michigan to parents of Lebanese/Egyptian/Irish/Polish descent. His father, formerly in the merchant marine, worked both in a factory and as a community organizer. His mother was a political activist.

I smell CAIR money.

Anonymous tiredofitall January 18, 2015 5:52 PM  

"Charlie Stross ‏@cstross
congratulations! You’ve drawn the ire of SF’s very worst self-defeating loser. You level up!"

And I used to think Stross was a smart man....

"Bootleg Girl ‏@BootlegGirl
Seriously though I "love" how atheist libertarians who are massive bigots project their own desires onto Muslims"

If she's referencing Vox I can count at least 4 errors she's made.

Namely:
1.) Vox isn't an atheist.
2.) Fairly sure he's never actually self-identified as a Libertarian.
3.) Vox isn't a bigot. At least not of the actual definition of the word. Of the SJW/Pinkshirt one, he is and so am I proudly.
4.) A SJW/Pinkshirt accusing anyone of projection is funny as hell to me. Also is this individual totally ignorant of Muslim attitudes to the gays, let alone non-Muslims? They want to convert us, or failing that fucking kill us. SJW/Pinkshirts aren't going to believe this fact until the moment their empty heads are on the literal chopping block.

Blogger James Dixon January 18, 2015 5:57 PM  

> What is preventing me from throwing White Supremacist Assholes from rooftops, though?

Well, I post here, and I'm sure that's all it takes in Randy's eyes, so: Anytime you want to try, Randy. Anytime you want to try.

Anonymous Aquila Aquilonis January 18, 2015 6:16 PM  

Just as you can judge a man by his children and friends, you can judge him by his enemies as well. Good Job!

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler January 18, 2015 6:22 PM  

I am sick and tired of the phrase "white supremacy". It is NOW the time to tell the blacks, the Hispanics, the Arabs and the Hindus, if you don't like European White Culture--GO BACK TO YOUR OWN COUNTRIES!!

It is time to tell them all to leave.

Anonymous the OC January 18, 2015 6:25 PM  

Saladin Ahmed is a bigot and racist toward Christians and whites.

Blogger TheCitadel January 18, 2015 6:30 PM  

I proudly fit the Pinkshirt definition of a bigot. Come and get me, asslifters.

Anonymous dark January 18, 2015 6:42 PM  

The only reason they want a different list is because those nominated where not of a certain approved skin color is that not the very text book definition of being a racist if you go by these people?.

Anonymous Steve January 18, 2015 6:44 PM  

"What is preventing me from throwing White Supremacist Assholes from rooftops, though?"

The fact that he's a neckbeard white knight mangina who looks like Scalzi's daughter could give him a kicking?

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/469438612581273600/x82IUjT0.jpeg

If I don't have to scroll past Thordaddy's monomaniacal posts again, I'll be grateful to Randy.

Anonymous Funkyfresh January 18, 2015 6:44 PM  

Vox

And speaking of throwing gays off the roof. ISIS in Iraq is doing just that. From the DailyMail uk site.

"Thrown to death....for being gay: Expert argues ISIS's latest abomination betrays radical Muslims' new thrist for killing in the name of justice."

"Horrific punishment for homosexual activities shown in grisly new IS clip.
Masked IS fighter seen bundling two blindfolded men off the top of a roof
The victims, presumably killed, land 100 ft below in front of all male mob"

The website newsbusters dot org is pointing out that the Establishment media in the USA is doing its best to ignore the acts- "The nation's establishment press is virtually ignoring the existence of horrifying and officially approved Islamic State videos showing the executions of accused homosexuals and adulterers."

Blogger ray January 18, 2015 6:55 PM  

'Pinkshirts' is a keeper.

Anonymous A Reader January 18, 2015 6:56 PM  

Although I disagree with Vox Day on how far back the SJW infiltrated the SF awards, 2013-2014 was indeed a terrible period.

The average goodreads rating for THRONE OF THE CRESCENT MOON is 3.59, which is quite poor for a novel nominated for awards. Compare, for instance, DUNE, ENDER'S GAME, and THE MOTE IN GOD'S EYE, all of which averages around 4 stars.

I'm hoping that 2013-14 was a fluke--Worldcon 2014 was held in London, a major urban area with its share of lefties.

Anonymous Corvinus January 18, 2015 6:57 PM  

Not to be pedantic here but Saladin is not an Arab name. In fact it's not even Kurd which Ṣalāḥ ad-Dīn Yūsuf ibn Ayyūb most definitely was.

Looks Arabic to me. Sort of like how Northern Europeans sometimes had Latin names, like that dude who founded Pretoria.

Anonymous Steve January 18, 2015 6:57 PM  

""Saladin" could be a pen name."

Maybe his real name is something embarrassing. Like Mike Hunt. Or Lester the Molestor. That would explain both the trying-too-hard pseudonym and the company he keeps.

I'm pretty sure the historical Saladin was a badass. His latter day namesake looks like the sort of man who would arrange a date on the internet, turn up at the house, and be met by Chris Hansen.

I noticed his book about a year ago and saw it got a lot of award nomination buzz.

But after having been burned by buying "Redshirts" on the strength of its award, I gave it a pass.

Looks like I made the right choice. I have no desire to give money to Christian-haters or anti-Native American racist bigots. Or even lazy-eyed potential sex pests.

Anonymous takin' a look January 18, 2015 7:00 PM  

This thread is why I love this blog. Y'all owe me a new keyboard
:-D



Anonymous Harsh January 18, 2015 7:05 PM  

What is preventing me from throwing White Supremacist Assholes from rooftops, though?

At first glance it appears to be his lack of upper-body strength.

Anonymous BigGaySteve January 18, 2015 7:08 PM  

"Though, of course, if white supremacy was a real thing, Mr Achmed wouldn't only dare not criticise it, he wouldn't even be in the US."

White supremacy is why everyone wants to get into white countries. Third world people live better, with bigger carbon footprints,on welfare in white countries then they could possibly achieve in their homelands. The last king of Rwanda is a white supremacist as can be seen in this story http://www.newser.com/story/165405/why-an-african-king-lives-on-public-assistance-in-virginia.html

There is a gay gun group called the pink pistols, and even a gay conservative group on the internet whose most recent blog posts are about moslem savagery and black protesters for the liquor store robber being the recipients of public funds http://www.gaypatriot.net/
They are mostly the don't want more money coming out of my paychecks to pay for illegitimate crack babies conservatives. The majority of gays would rather be victims, than defend themselves. Many cant imagine shooting a black guy that broke into their window at 3am because they have fantasies of how it would turn out, & might hope to save money like the NYT reporter that rents homeless men. Some gays called bug chasers purposely get HIV so they can lay around on social security disability and be social justice whoriers all day on the taxpayers expense.

Hey Achmed I put bacon grease in hallow points, sends moslems str8 to hell. ;) ;)

Anonymous tiredofitall January 18, 2015 7:15 PM  

"It is NOW the time to tell the blacks, the Hispanics, the Arabs and the Hindus, if you don't like European White Culture--GO BACK TO YOUR OWN COUNTRIES!!" - W.LindsayWheeler

Recently a normally left-leaning friend of mine was accused of being a racist for voicing pretty much that statement. His response was, "So what if I am?!?" Which the accuser never saw coming.

Her reflex of smiling proudly as the accused tried to hem and haw his way out of daring to voice badthink was instantly short-circuited and she just stared at him slack-jawed unable to proceed with the next line in her SJW scripted talking points.

Anonymous BigGaySteve January 18, 2015 7:22 PM  

Sorry meant to say Hollow points. has anyone commented on Soros spending $33 million towards the protests for the liquor store robber shot by a white cop? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2913625/Billionaire-George-Soros-spent-33MILLION-bankrolling-Ferguson-demonstrators-create-echo-chamber-drive-national-protests.html

Anonymous BigGaySteve January 18, 2015 7:35 PM  

Gays throw things at #BlackLivesMatter(UnlessTheyGetKilledByOtherBlacks-Or-GetAbortedByWhiteLiberalsByTheMillions
and protesters run away like little girls.
http://weaselzippers.us/211384-blacklivesmatter-annoy-privileged-white-males-at-gay-bars-until-people-throw-things-at-them/

Hey Vox check out the Elizabeth Warren Indians that joined the protesters. None of them looked like a boy named Sioux.

"I'm more fabulously victimized than you honey"..."No I be more the vic than your cracka ass faggot!" ~Actual exchange on Castro St

Blogger James Sullivan January 18, 2015 7:43 PM  

@ the OC

"Wikipedia:

Ahmed was born in 1975 in Detroit, Michigan to parents of Lebanese/Egyptian/Irish/Polish descent. His father, formerly in the merchant marine, worked both in a factory and as a community organizer. His mother was a political activist.

I smell CAIR money."

Possibly. But I went to his blog (shudder), after attempting to read his novel last year. I went back to it a little while ago, after reading Vox's post. And I have to say, that reading how often Ahmed begs for money from people is downright disgusting.

You want more money Sal? Right more than one mediocre social justice screed of a novel. Or better yet, get a paying job if you can't finish. He seems to be the guy that prematurely quit his day job.

I don't think he'd be begging if CAIR were supporting him.

Anonymous Daniel January 18, 2015 7:54 PM  

Wait a minute. Which are the god damn people to whom he is referring? Gays?

Anonymous Nathan January 18, 2015 8:13 PM  

@James

Let me guess; he has a Patreon account?

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 18, 2015 8:39 PM  


And I used to think Stross was a smart man….


It's easy to confuse snark and a cynical pose as smart. Stross is doubly or maybe triply condemned under Sharia. Also a clever-silly who is firmly in the "can't happen to ME" delusion.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 18, 2015 8:41 PM  

And I have to say, that reading how often Ahmed begs for money from people is downright disgusting.

Maybe he should partner up with Andrew Sullivan?

Blogger James Sullivan January 18, 2015 8:45 PM  

@Nathan

Nope. Just PayPal for now. But Sal is getting ready to announce a big Patreon push sometime this year. Per his blog:

"I know that there are other platforms out there for more sustained support of artists. I’m working on a couple of brand-new short stories to offer as part of a Patreon launch early next year."

Aren't authors supposed to push their latest novel or book tour? Its so unseemly...

Yick.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza January 18, 2015 8:51 PM  

I cannot contain the hilarity of it all.

I threw myself off my chair laughing, best tweet thread of, what, january 2015?

Hey, I wanna protect anyone throwing themselves the roof with a little alcohol. I'll whiteknight for the LGTB movement and the awfuls or the oscars can powerbroke pervert hollywierd.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza January 18, 2015 8:52 PM  

CAIR and ISIS and Anonymous gotta be called!!

Blogger Miss Carnivorous January 18, 2015 8:53 PM  

I dunno, the "bigot magnetic poetry kit" comment was pretty darn funnay. The irony is, of course, that the comment is satire. Points on fer DAT one! I, and you, defend the commenter's right to post such a statement, even if it insults you. I say you are a very brave and admirable man. You are not afraid to post, front and center, the comments of your detractors.

Anonymous Grinder January 18, 2015 9:03 PM  

Where can I find these bigot fridge magnets?

Anonymous hahahahaha January 18, 2015 9:06 PM  

"@saladinahmed: When we are on our deathbeds, not a one of us is going to wish we had spent more time getting into arguments on Twitter."

Blogger LP 999/Eliza January 18, 2015 9:11 PM  

CAIR, ISISVISA, OPAnon has to...become a presence at the awfuls or ocars

Anonymous Culture War Draftee January 18, 2015 9:17 PM  

Isn't Benjanun Srid-whoever just another sock-puppet of Alex Dalley MacFarlane?

Here's the hilarious part, Saladin Ahmed is outraged that the Oscars don't align their nominations with his anti-white agenda. How does he feel about Sad Puppies? Is that too ideological for him?

Blogger IM2L844 January 18, 2015 10:14 PM  

"I'm more fabulously victimized than you honey"..."No I be more the vic than your cracka ass faggot!" ~Actual exchange on Castro St

If the SJWs win, which one of these idiots will be willing to fight and die for the freedoms of the other? God, help us.

Anonymous Nathan January 18, 2015 10:30 PM  

@James,

Why am I not surprised that he picked the SJW "pay me for nothing" business model...

Anonymous BigGaySteve January 18, 2015 10:32 PM  

"If the SJWs win, which one of these idiots will be willing to fight and die for the freedoms of the other? God, help us."

If you looked at the article you would see that Queens beats spades with trash cans and stools.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza January 18, 2015 10:33 PM  

Again with endless victimology talk, SJW's, drop the knife, get off the ledge and stop being so damn emo!

It is mere fodder for us, its been a rough weekend but I really did fall off my chair in laughter. Thank you for cheering me up!

Blogger LP 999/Eliza January 18, 2015 10:38 PM  

EDIT: my chemical romance 2010; "drop the knife, get off the ledge, not a victims of a victims life, we are believers and I believe tonight."

Anonymous Jack Hanson January 18, 2015 10:53 PM  

The twitter tuffguys should have to post their pictures next to their comments when they're talking about how mad they get about white supremacy or whatever bullshit they're on.

A bunch of no jaw motherfuckers sucking in guts full of krispy kreme and deep fried baconators while talking about "throwing people from roofs" when the first thing they'd do is scream for an adult if they every got into any conflict that rose about internet slapfight.

Blogger Stuart Paul January 18, 2015 11:43 PM  

Dat NBA doe.

Anonymous TheVillageIdiot(Ret.) January 18, 2015 11:51 PM  

When it comes to dealings with the Queers,
Us Muslims Rock.
WE WILL...
WE WILL...
ROCK YOU!


Hasn't bin Laid.

(I KILLLLLLLLL YOU!)

Blogger SQT January 19, 2015 12:22 AM  

Wait...now Requires Hate (now known as Benjanun) is all pro-Saladin? I remember when she savaged his book for being over-the-top sexist. Normally I don't jump on the SJW bandwagon but I kind of agreed with her on that assessment.

Blogger L. Beau January 19, 2015 12:34 AM  

Wait a minute, isn't Saladin Ahmed the Dead Terrorist really just a sock puppet for Jeff Dunham?

If memory serves. SQT, I believe that "Requires Hate" characterized SA's debut novel as being written at the level of "role-playing game tie-in fiction", or words to that effect. There's an insult that I intend to steal for future use.

Blogger SQT January 19, 2015 12:37 AM  

I don't remember RH's actual descriptions of Ahmed's book- but she really, really didn't like it. So it's really humorous to see her being all nicey-nicey with him on Twitter. It sums up the ridiculousness of the SJW mindset nicely.

Anonymous Scintan January 19, 2015 12:39 AM  

Always Randy ‏@RandyTheRandom
What is preventing me from throwing White Supremacist Assholes from rooftops, though?


Probably the combination of a lack of courage to attempt it and a lack of ability to accomplish it.

Blogger bob k. mando January 19, 2015 1:08 AM  

tiredofitall January 18, 2015 5:52 PM
Fairly sure he's never actually self-identified as a Libertarian.



Vox identifies as Nationalist Libertarian.

that's as opposed to the Internationalist Libertarian free traders and open immigrationists you normally run into.

Anonymous rho January 19, 2015 2:32 AM  

I thought VD was a small-L libertarian. Big-L Libertarians have an "it's complicated" relationship with nationalism. Libertarians are an actual political party, if you're a Libertarian, you sign up for the party's platform, in whole or in large part.

Blogger IM2L844 January 19, 2015 2:40 AM  

If you looked at the article you would see that Queens beats spades with trash cans and stools.

You completely missed the point. Try looking a little further ahead than the tip of your penis, BigGaySteve.

Blogger Remo January 19, 2015 3:29 AM  


Always Randy ‏@RandyTheRandom
What is preventing me from throwing White Supremacist Assholes from rooftops, though?

Hmm... Maybe the fact that you're likely an obese neck bearded pussy who'd get his ass kicked if he tried such a thing?

Anonymous Thaddeus January 19, 2015 3:54 AM  

It's funny but even at her worst as Requires Only That You're A Big Fake, there were plenty of people still willing to defend her, waving off any negative responses to Requires Hate's frothing, over-the-top rage at anything as "oh people are just uncomfortable with how she calls them live she sees them because it clashes with their white-privileged viewpoints" and so on and so forth. This being has, under various names like A Cracked Moon and Winterfox, even before she hooked up with the Social Justice Warrior: Elite Microaggressions Unit types, done this sort of thing before. She would get very aggressive about what she likes and dislikes, getting people with similar interests to back her/excuse her by being a crazed, passionate fighter for the POV they shared. Why she's so hilarious and she surely ripped people who hold bad, wrong opinions a new one!
Then she would go just a little too far and get criticized by some people on her side who had supported her, which would lead to her attacking people on her own ostensible side for petty or imagined slights, and start stalking people, tracking down accounts, denouncing people to their friends and online followers as Actual Secret Racists/Rape Culture-ists,, threatening to track them down after finding out where they lived, etc. and tossing her own insults and threats around at people in public and private that would by SJW standards be racist, sexist, ableist, etc.

Someone who has devoted the better part of several years to being the most obnoxious, poisonous, divisive, shit-stirring, drama-starting sort of internet user that makes online communities awful but times 1000.
As RH, she had people who'd run interference for her and defend her no matter how over the top she got with the vitriol, no matter if she accused friends of her supporters of being racist rape supporters who should drink acid and throw themselves in front of a bus; that seemed to make them defend her even more; including the shouting down of anybody who had any complaints about receiving death threats or harassed by her under one of her old names.

But lo, she has reformed now, and done some very diligent cleaning up of her internet trail. For her latest reinvention all of a sudden, this truly awful excuse fro a person was now a sweetie pie of a lady author who never swears and doesn't know really know how to use computers and blogs about kitties and makeup and food, and she just started reading science fiction a few years ago and then started writing it a week later and got published immediately and suddenly she was nominated for awards in a month or so. Why would anyone have any objections to this new Benjanun Sriduangkaew personality, (no actually she's always been like this don't anyone tell you any different), unless you're just going to be MEAN for no reason?
There's been this push in the past year or so to make her into a Name in the SF/F field, because it's important for strong minority and female voices to be heard, or something. There's some sort of bankruptcy amongst the SJWs and pinkshirts that they would consider a wretched basket case like this, whom no one has actually seen, to be someone worth defending and promoting.
I mean, I'm not one of those people who thinks insults on the internet are grievous hurts, but this psycho-stalker takes it to the next level. Requires Only that you Sriduangkaew's defenders have decided to reward this skid mark of a person, but make no mistake, her old personality traits will come to the fore again, sometime.

Blogger SQT January 19, 2015 4:38 AM  

@Thaddeus- The Requires Hate phenomenon is really interesting to me. Personally I don't think she (?) is a SJW at all. I'm pretty sure she has just been really successful at using the SJW badge to further her own career while laughing at those who think she's the real deal. It's amazing to watch people who have been on the receiving end of her vitriol turn around and defend her because they take it at face value that she really is the Thai lesbian she claims to be. It'll be hilarious beyond belief if it turns out she's some white guy hiding behind the persona. Most of my family actually lives in Thailand and, from what experience I have had with the culture, I'll be shocked if she is what she says she is.

Blogger Bogey January 19, 2015 5:34 AM  

Chucky never misses an opportunity to score points with his kind via knocking VD.

Anonymous VD January 19, 2015 5:47 AM  

Chucky never misses an opportunity to score points with his kind via knocking VD.

He's trying to compensate for the fact that I think many of his books are quite good, I suppose. That's what I find amusing about the pinkshirts. Unlike them, I am capable of distinguishing between good SF, mediocre SF, and bad SF on non-ideological grounds. But since they are not, the fact that I praise Stross's books and heap contempt on Scalzi's indicates to them that I think Stross is ideological kindred.

So Stross feels the need to demonstrate that he does not approve of my approval. Fortunately for him, he can observe that I deemed his awful Lovecraft pastiche to be grotesque, unfunny, and child molestery.

Anonymous Giuseppe January 19, 2015 6:57 AM  

He's trying to compensate for the fact that I think many of his books are quite good, I suppose.

Legible at best. And I could only do one before nausea set in.
Stross is the kind of know-it-all pontificator that tries to equate everyone else's life with his own and make his the superior one regardless of objective reality. I knew nothing about him until I read one of his books, and even though it was decent enough, by the end of it I also knew he was your typical, obese, shiftless IT guy who only gets off his ass once you set fire to it. His descriptions of sexual dynamics are so inadequate as to be cartoonish, and overall that did for me like reading about a horse vomiting does for anyone familiar with horses.

Or in ilk-speak, don't go writing to me about no S&W self-loading pistol in .44 magnum.

Anonymous Mrs. Lastname January 19, 2015 10:29 AM  

Requires Hate/Benjanun is probably a wealthy Chinese-Thai girl gamer with an American passport. At least according to the RPG board s(he?) hung out at for years on end.

Anonymous VD January 19, 2015 10:31 AM  

by the end of it I also knew he was your typical, obese, shiftless IT guy who only gets off his ass once you set fire to it.

Complete with the obligatory obese pagan female life-partner. With tats and cats. But read Accelerando. It's quite good. As is "A Colder War" and "Bear Market". What he misses in intersexual relations he makes up for in economics.

Blogger SQT January 19, 2015 3:50 PM  

Requires Hate/Benjanun is probably a wealthy Chinese-Thai girl gamer with an American passport. At least according to the RPG board s(he?) hung out at for years on end.

She very well could be everything she claims. But it's all just so conveniently on-point for all the SJW checklists. I have a feeling she's just a sociopath that will flip her causes and preferences to whatever will benefit her in the long run. She is interesting though and it's fun to watch the SJW crowd try to figure out what mental gymnastics to use to make her a-okay in their world.

Anonymous Thaddeus January 19, 2015 8:41 PM  

One of my favorite things about Requires Hate is that she supposedly was a wealthy Chinese-Thai lesbian SF fan who supposedly only learned to speak English a few years ago, according to some versions. Some people dared to point out that she wrote in the sort of colloquial English you'd expect from an American-born snotty 20-year old SF/F fan who can only communicate full-blown eye-rolling "Like, I am soooo sure" snark; that even a lot of long-term English-as-a-second-language speakers never quite get over their formal stiffness in the use of language, and that according to her easily researched internet history under different names, back when she was obsessing over the sexiest Knights of the Old Republic fanfiction or Harry Potter or videogames or whatever was her "thing" at the time in different incarnations, she's been using the same "voice" for at least a dozen years now. They got the usual song and dance from RH's defenders, including the "OH ARE YOU SAYING YOU'RE SURPRISED A FOREIGN MINORITY MEMBER CAN USE ENGLISH SO WELL? YOU RACIST!" response. I mean, another great example of the "mental gymnastics" they use to "make her a-okay in their world"

In the new era of Requires Hate Rehabilitated, instead of being cast out and rejected after her shenanigans became too much, now figures in the SF/F writing and fandom scene, SJWs with some juice, such as it is, Sure, she had as RH gotten up to some of her old antics, screeching at SF/F writers she didn’t like that they and their children should be dismembered when she wasn’t accusing writers of being child molesters or what have you, though she's since put the worst of her blog and twitter posts down the memory hole. She may be a frothing nutcase but she can really cover up after herself when sufficiently motivated.

The recent, rehabilitated, reborn incarnation of Requires Only That You Crackedmoon Winterfox, etc. was the subject of both a preemptive outing/ PR campaign by these people with the idea that she should be forgiven for her ridiculous, repellent behavior as RH and what else because among other points, she was only 19 years old when she did all of that crazy stuff, haven't we all done crazy stuff when we were crazy kooky kids? Who are you to judge?!? Though she'd have to have been 19 since the year 2000 for that to be true. When she foamed at the mouth making death threats or accused people of despicable things, it was merely satire, like Johnny Swift and his Irish baby eating suggestions! Get off your high horse already. And final the only people who could possibly have any problem with her are racist white cisheteronormative male stalkers.

I can only hope promoting this creature blows up in their faces spectacularly.

Blogger Zimri January 19, 2015 11:59 PM  

"Throne of the Crescent Moon" mediocre? You're being too kind. After my fourth eye-roll I tossed it into the "send to the used book store" box.

I bought it in the first place because, hey, I love this stuff. Arabian-Nights style adventure is awesome. Even in this modern age Howard Andrew Jones did fine with The Desert of Souls. But if Saladin Ahmed had tried delivering his nonsense on the streets of Wasit circa 950 AD, he'd have been jeered out of town on the third chapter.

Blogger Zimri January 20, 2015 12:03 AM  

Ṣalāḥ ad-Dīn is a title, if we're being THAT pedantic. Like "Servant Of The Empire".

Blogger SQT January 20, 2015 1:09 AM  

Some people dared to point out that she wrote in the sort of colloquial English you'd expect from an American-born snotty 20-year old SF/F fan who can only communicate full-blown eye-rolling "Like, I am soooo sure" snark;

This. My sister-in-law is Thai and has been married to my brother for about 10 years and she sounds nothing like RH. It's not even the ability to use colloquial English, it's the whole mindset. I went to school in Japan too and between my exposure to the two different cultures I learned that Asians think very differently that Americans (and presumably other Western cultures if my European friends are any guide to go by). I remember talking to Japanese women when I was in school and their reactions to things like rape-porn didn't really rise above a "meh" reaction. My sister-in-law has a similar disinterest in the kind of things that wind-up RH on a regular basis.

I'm not saying it's impossible that RH is what she claims to be but I do think it's unlikely.

I can only hope promoting this creature blows up in their faces spectacularly.

I couldn't agree more.

Anonymous Steve January 20, 2015 6:18 PM  

"Though, of course, if white supremacy was a real thing, Mr Achmed wouldn't only dare not criticise it, he wouldn't even be in the US."

Quite right, other Steve. I'm writing a sort of Orwellian take on language as it will be used in 2025 America (and the rest of the Western world).

Here are a few relevant sections:

Racist:1. (noun) anything unwanted or generally considered unpleasant,bad, or mistaken,as a racist book, a racist song,a racist place. "Steve came in to work 10 minutes late today". "No,Bob,you are racist,I was only 1 minute late today". "Steve,can you stay after work today"? "Oh,John, you are such a racist! I will miss dinner and my life partner will be upset". 2. (adj) Unpleasant,awful,ugly. "Look at that racist old lady! Her face is so wrinkly and racist".

White Supremacist: 1. (noun) Any group or organization containing only or mostly White people,instead of an artificial heterogenous mix of races and ethnicities found nowhere in nature when not constructed at the end of a gun barrel by heavy-handed,foolish,sadistic authoritarian state officials indifferent to the end results of doing so. A White Supremacist funeral, birthday party,wedding,coffee house,college, or movie theater.

"Is Joe coming to the barbecue?" "No, he's at that White Supremacist college,Yale ".

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