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Thursday, January 29, 2015

A true team player

I picked Belichick and Brady to beat Seattle in the Super Bowl before the playoffs started. I'm not changing that prediction now barring Brady being ill at gametime; this is their last hurrah, they know it, they've got a healthy Gronk, and Belichick has had two weeks to prepare. That being said, I really like Richard Sherman, as for all his flash and attitude, he is far more a hard-working team player than many a fan and media favorite.
I was lucky to be drafted by Pete and John, who assembled around me one of the most talented and diverse defensive backfields in football. More than I want individual success, I want to be remembered as part of the Legion of Boom, which is why all of us are on the cover of Sports Illustrated magazine this week. In football, unlike various other sports, it takes a total team effort to be successful.

I can’t perform at this level without Kam Chancellor, the lion of the Legion, the guy who once picked off Peyton Manning by ducking to make it appear as though he couldn’t leap for the ball. He’s also the guy we go to with our problems, who doles out advice about a lot of issues that arise outside of football.

I can’t perform at this level without Earl Thomas—The Example—who can show you how to do the right thing better than he can explain it. When everybody else is joking, he’s locked in, a reminder of what we’re here for.

I can’t perform at this level without Byron Maxwell, our chill guy, oblivious to the pressure. I remember him joking around with Carroll in our rookie camp, saying that if he was allowed to play nickel he’d choke out the slot receiver. Carroll relented and Maxwell delivered, only to get injured in camp. Now he’s the corner on the other side, and his consistently high level of play makes QBs’ decisions very difficult.

I can’t perform at this level without Jeremy Lane, the scrappy guy from Tyler, Texas. Competition brings out the dog in him; just look at what he’s done to the Packers’ Randall Cobb.
He's also entirely sound on Roger Goodell. One thing I always pay attention to with regards to public figures is how they are regarded by those closest to them. The men who tend to have the strongest characters are those whose friends and colleagues are loyal and stand by them even when the heat is on. The fact that Sherman, the most famous and outspoken member of the Legion of Boom, doesn't pretend to be the top dog but instead defers to Chancellor as the leader, helps explain why a collection of fairly low draft picks - one first-rounder, two fifth-rounders, and two sixth-rounders - evolved into the most fearsome defensive secondary of all time.

It's strange how many people involved in team sports insist on focusing exclusively on individual talents when the evidence clearly indicates that how well you operate as part of a unit is more important for ultimate team success than your individual talents. I suspect it may not be an accident that at least two of the Legion of Boom members, including its leader, are devout Christians. And although Sherman doesn't come right out and say it, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the original plan had been to put him on the cover alone.

And if the Seahawks do knock off one of the two best pairings of coach and quarterback in NFL history, that will be further testimony to the sum being greater than the whole of the parts. I can honestly say that aside from the original Purple People Eaters and the Buddy Ryan Bears, I haven't enjoyed watching a defense more than Seattle's over the last two years. I wasn't the only one who decided the Super Bowl was over after seeing this hit by Chancellor. Watch the battle between him and Gronkowski for an early clue on how the game will turn out.

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Blogger hank.jim January 29, 2015 4:05 PM  

I hope this game is competitive. Hate to see a blowout. The Patriots are unlikely to let it be close.

Blogger Leatherwing January 29, 2015 4:12 PM  

which is why all of us are on the cover of Sports Illustrated magazine Whose bright idea was that? Gotta go with the Patriots to duck the SI curse.

Also, when talking about low draft picks, you have to remember that Tom Brady was a sixth round pick.

Anonymous Porky January 29, 2015 4:17 PM  

Seahawks 38-32.

Because that photo looks like a poster from the Victory Tour.

Blogger Josh January 29, 2015 4:18 PM  

Here's another well written piece by an nfl player:

https://medium.com/the-cauldron/an-open-letter-to-charles-barkley-co-cb5c4e64cf3

Anonymous Huckleberry -- est. 1977 January 29, 2015 4:20 PM  

The X factor is going to be Russell Wilson. If he can avoid even half of the mistakes he made in the NFC champ game, Seattle should win in a walk -- their D is capable of canceling out anything that the Patriots want or can do when you know that every possible trick they'd ordinarily play is off the table because all eyes are on them, damn their cheatin' hearts...
Couple that with New England's penchant for underwhelming when it matters most, and that historically teams coming off a win in a playoff game where they score 40 or more points are 3-22 in their next game, well, I'll roll with Seattle straight up and to cover the +1.
I expect this to be more like the Week 4 loss to KC than it will a repeat of the AFC champ game.

Blogger Josh January 29, 2015 4:28 PM  

Still my favorite thing Richard Sherman wrote:

http://deadspin.com/richard-shermans-email-to-his-stanford-dorm-is-priceles-922762394

To all You assholes complaining,

If you dint like it live in another dorm next year then because tradition is tradition and If your Homosexual don't celebrate the holidayy if its that big of a deal but im tired of yall complaining about a couple of hours of sleep yall are some assholes. Stop bitching and fuckin adapt I wake up that early everyday and I aint complaining so you guys really need to just shut the fuck up. Everyone else had fun so fuck the people who are complaining

Richard Sherman

Blogger Guitar Man January 29, 2015 4:54 PM  

I can't wait! I am scared of the Seattle defense, so I'm hoping that Brady (GOAT) doesn't get caught like a deer in the headlights like old Manning did last season. He was visibly scared after that epic safety.

The one thing the Pats have going is a great secondary, IMO. They lacked a strong defense last season, and this defense is definitely better than their last two defenses that made the SB.

Anonymous Tawmmy from Quinzee January 29, 2015 5:19 PM  

THE FACKING LEGION OF SHROOM IS NAWT AS GRITTY AS THE LEGENDAHRY SECONDAHRY OF THE GREATRIOTS DEFENSES WHEN OWAH LUNCH PAIL BLUE COLLAH FELLAHS WON THREE SUPAHBOWLS IN FOUAH YEAHS!

THAT DAHKIE THUG RICHAHD SHROOMAN WOULD NEVAH MAKE IT IN A REAL TOUGH TOWN LIKE BAHSTAHN. HE IS NAWT AS HAHD WOHKING AS THE HEAHOHS OF GREATRIOTS NATION LIKE TEDDY BREWSKY AND MIKEY VRAYBAL! NO ONE DENIES THIS!

Blogger Nate January 29, 2015 6:12 PM  

" evolved into the most fearsome defensive secondary of all time."

Hyperbole much?

c'mon mate.

Blogger frigger611 January 29, 2015 6:37 PM  

I think the Pats will win by 6.
I bet that right now Brady and Belichick are in a bunker somewhere, whispering. Crafting their next cunning plan of minor chicaneries (that will go unnoticed for years), but that will give them an unfair advantage in Sunday's contest.
Like maybe they're gonna file extra little grooves into their cleats.
Clever devils...

Blogger Vox January 29, 2015 6:37 PM  

Hyperbole much?

Not at all. I've seen them and I've read the statistical analyses. Plus, they are a top 10 all-time defense and the only one that is led by their secondary. What's amazing is that they are doing it in the modern pass-happy era. If they could play by the 1970s rules, half their games would be shut-outs.

Read the Sherman piece. They don't find a lot of film very useful because so few other secondaries play hard press the way they do. They don't do all the changing around that the other defenses do, they just play a few simple formations and dare the offense to try to beat them.

Blogger Azimus January 29, 2015 6:44 PM  

Richard Sherman reminds me of how football used to be. A lot of guys these days get injured/fake being injured in a game that's going bad as a showman's excuse: "See? I gave everything I had and I'm hurt now, not my fault we lost!" Sherman got hurt and he stayed on the field. I'll forgive the man for cradling his arm a little... in fact I'm still not sure if it wasn't a ruse de guerre...

Anonymous Brother Thomas January 29, 2015 6:59 PM  

The "Purple People Eaters" always got chewed up in the Super Bowl. The Dolphins, Steelers and Raiders all ran the ball on them. Just look at the yards rushing statistics from those games. That's why they could never win the big game. They were outmatched.

Anonymous Baseball Savant January 29, 2015 7:24 PM  

When I die I want to come back as Kam Chancellor. DUDE IS A BEAST!

Blogger Nate January 29, 2015 7:27 PM  

'Not at all. I've seen them and I've read the statistical analyses."

Vox... c'mon... The Ravens in the early 2000s... their secondary maybe wasn't as good.. but they hit harder.

Hell the 2000 Titans D was better than this Seahawks D and the safeties would do murder (blain bishop and marcus robertson) . That D actually beat out the Ravens D for Total Defense... and that was the year the ravens won the superbowl.

Sherman's good... But he's not nearly as good as he thinks he is. Actually this D in general isn't as good as it thinks it is.

Blogger Nate January 29, 2015 7:29 PM  

I believe the Patriots are going to beat them. And I believe the Patriots are going to run all over them. They'll pound Blount straight up the middle and this undersized seattle D will end up looking at each other wondering what's going wrong.

Just like Dallas would've done.

In fact... Just like Dallas already did.

Blogger Guitar Man January 29, 2015 8:02 PM  

Nate, I really wanted a Packers vs. Pat Super Bowl.

Anonymous Billy January 29, 2015 8:34 PM  

What kills me about Sherman is how the media go on and on about how intelligent he is. Because he went to Stanford and has learned how to mimic white people when he speaks(the exception being after the NFC playoff game last year when he was speaking to the sports gal on the field). A simple search engine will yield results that Stanford has special classes for afroletes, just like every other competitive collage.

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Anonymous Susan January 29, 2015 9:05 PM  

Nate, the only way you will get your wish is if Sherman's girl friend has the baby this weekend. He has already said he will miss the game in favor of the birth of his firstborn.
Other than that, VD is not over talking the big D for the Seahawks. I was shocked how fast they shut down the Broncos. Manning never stood a chance once they got in gear.

Blogger Guitar Man January 29, 2015 9:16 PM  

Susan, this isn't a wish of Nate's. He hates the Pats. I think the NFCC revealed some weaknesses on the Seahawks part. There aren't too many holes on the Pats. Besides: Gronk is healthy!

Blogger Guitar Man January 29, 2015 9:19 PM  

Anon, you can't even obey simple rules of the blog.

Blogger Zimri January 29, 2015 9:29 PM  

538 objects to BallGhazi.

Anonymous Ezra January 29, 2015 10:11 PM  

I don't think the NFC Championship revealed any particular weaknesses in the Seahawks (what were those weakness Guitar Man? curious, not poking you in the eye or anything). I thought they just screwed up and turned the ball over too many times on stupid accidents. It was uncharacteristic.

I think Wilson is a very good quarterback and pegged him as the immediate starter the day they drafted him (watch his Ohio tape). However, like Vox pointed out, it's the defense that makes Seattle fun to watch. I can't think of any other run of years in football where I got up for chips and beer while the offense was on the field and rushed back to watch the defense. They are remarkable.

Anonymous Godfrey January 29, 2015 10:23 PM  

Seattle wins. I'm not a fan of Seattle, but they're a top tier team in the NFL and better than New England. New England has a tough time against top tier defenses.

Anonymous Huckleberry -- est. 1977 January 29, 2015 10:39 PM  

watch his Ohio tape

Since he went to college in Wisconsin, I'm not sure what you mean.
His high school tape?

Anonymous Ezra January 29, 2015 10:56 PM  

Uh... whoops. Quite correct Huckleberry. Wilson was a Badger. I haven't the foggiest where he went to high-school (Virginia?) but you won't find much Ohio tape on Wilson *facepalm*

Anonymous Jack Amok January 29, 2015 11:33 PM  

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the original plan had been to put him on the cover alone.

It was. Sherman inisisted it be the entire LoB.

And frankly, baring some fiasco like the NFCCG with a bundle of turnovers, NE is going to be steam-rolled.

And a little bonus for those who think Revis Island is the epitome of cornerback play, Quarterbacks have a Passer Rating of 70.5 vs Revis this year. For comparison, Romo led the league this year at 113.2. Brady was 5th at 97.4. Russell Wilson 10th at 95. Josh McCown was 32 at 70.5. So the average NFL QB looked like Josh McCown when throwing to Revis Island.

vs. Darrell Revis: 70.5

vs Richard Sherman? 38.7.

Ryan Leaf's rookie season was 39.0. TJack's worst year was 63.9.

Anonymous Michael Hoomanawanui January 29, 2015 11:56 PM  

Watch this block I put on Sherman's knees.

Anonymous Jack Amok January 30, 2015 12:02 AM  

Also, on the 4GW-ish front, I thought it was interesting how Sherman went after the Goodell-Kraft relationship in the wake of the Deflategate deal.

(BTW, if you're not sure it's really a scandal, it's not about Brady throwing the ball, it's about fumbles. Underinflated footballs are easier to hold onto. Here's the smoking gun).

Goodell and Kraft are buddies, but Goodell doesn't like Belichik much. Sherman calling him out on being cozy with the Pat's owner gives him an added incentive to come down on Belichick so the other 31 owners (some of whom are not happy with him), don't rebel.

Anonymous Will Best January 30, 2015 1:01 AM  

I was shocked how fast they shut down the Broncos. Manning never stood a chance once they got in gear.

Anybody that watched the Super Bowl last year realized the Broncos lost that game before it even started. I have no idea why people were crediting the great Seattle D.

vs. Darrell Revis: 70.5 vs Richard Sherman? 38.7.

Fortunately, you can avoid Sherman by sacrificing your #3 WR to him. The same cannot be said for Revis.

The question is Seattle's D-line. If they are going to give Brady the same time they gave Rodgers its not even going to be a close. Pats are going to do what they always do. They are going to take way your primary weapon in this case Lynch, and force you to beat them with your weakness. Russell Wilson to whoever catches the balls for them.

Despite the fact that this game is going to be won or loss by the D, its going to be the QB that gets MVP. Brady because 4th Super Bowl. Wilson, because he is going to need to win this one with his arm.

OpenID malcolmthecynic January 30, 2015 1:07 AM  

The problem with the deflategate scandal is that the consequences don't matter.

What team wouldn't trade a draft pick for a SB? Hell, for a playoff win?

If that's the worst consequence, well...why not?

Anonymous Jack Amok January 30, 2015 1:12 AM  

Fortunately, you can avoid Sherman by sacrificing your #3 WR to him. The same cannot be said for Revis.

So Byron Maxwell is the greatest DB to ever play the game then?

Blogger ChicagoRefugee January 30, 2015 1:17 AM  

To all You assholes complaining,

If you dint like it live in another dorm next year then because tradition is tradition and If your Homosexual don't celebrate the holidayy if its that big of a deal but im tired of yall complaining about a couple of hours of sleep yall are some assholes. Stop bitching and fuckin adapt I wake up that early everyday and I aint complaining so you guys really need to just shut the fuck up. Everyone else had fun so fuck the people who are complaining

Richard Sherman


Ok, at first I was just going to snark: A Stanford degree holder, Ladies and Gents, in communications. Working on a Masters, no less!

But then I clicked the link and, well, you know if it had been an email from his junior or senior year, I'dve (how do you punctuate that one? or is it spoken English only?) been justified. But that was a list blast to his freshman dorm, so I'm inclined to give the guy a break.

Back in the 80s, I was a student assistant in the history department of a small, highly selective (top-25 USNews), Division III, liberal arts college. One of my duties was to grade for grammar all the intro class papers; I had complete control over 50% of the grade for any given paper. Frankly, while I would have red-pencilled that email all to hell, I've seen worse. Much worse. In the 80s. Before cell phones and text speak.

This dude grew up in the ghetto in the age of text talk and he writes even that well? He's definitely a couple of SD above the (black American) norm.

Anonymous Jack Amok January 30, 2015 1:29 AM  

The problem with the deflategate scandal is that the consequences don't matter.

What team wouldn't trade a draft pick for a SB? Hell, for a playoff win?


If it was up to me and I had enough proof, I'd give Belichick the full Pete Rose. A Lifetime ban.

One ironic twist - Bahstan fans like to brag about how Red Auerbach (of the Celtics) would pull all sorts of stunts to get an advantage, like turning the heat in the visitors locker room way up to make it a sauna. Another tactic they jokes about was him paying someone to pull fire alarms in the visitor's hotel in the middle of the night.

The Patriots have had two fire alarms go off in the middle of the night at their hotel this week.

OpenID malcolmthecynic January 30, 2015 1:35 AM  

If it was up to me and I had enough proof, I'd give Belichick the full Pete Rose. A Lifetime ban.

I don't oppose that. My first thought, though, is that it would be a disaster PR-wise, and I don't know if the NFL would go there.

Pete Rose is different. He was out of MLB when they banned him from the Hall.

Perhaps that might work though. Ban Belichick from the Hall when his career is done, but let him keep coaching. I think the scandal's bad enough. AND take the draft pick.

Anonymous Jack Amok January 30, 2015 1:51 AM  

I don't oppose that. My first thought, though, is that it would be a disaster PR-wise, and I don't know if the NFL would go there.

Pete Rose is different. He was out of MLB when they banned him from the Hall.

Perhaps that might work though. Ban Belichick from the Hall when his career is done, but let him keep coaching. I think the scandal's bad enough. AND take the draft pick.


PR disaster? Maybe in Boston, but the rest of the country would cheer. And the impact wouldn't be disasterous for the league as far as integrity.

Best I can figure, the Pats undersized balls have been responsible for about 6 fewer turnovers per year. A turnover is worth about 0.25 victories, so the Pats have won an average of 1.5 more games than they otherwise would've for several years. But since they play in the most pathetic division in the NFL, they still wouldn've won their division most years anyway. The seedings would have been different, but overall the impact was significant but not catastrophic. The perfect situation to crucify a cheater as an example to the others.

Ban him this summer. Let XLIX go however it goes, then bring down the hammer.

Anonymous Rolf January 30, 2015 1:52 AM  

Living near Seattle, I have to root for the Seahawks.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, stats say this, or that, or the other thing. I have no idea who will, but I can hope, have an excuse to buy a few extra chips, and try not to go nuts explaining the rules and action to my seriously non-football-following family.

Anonymous Will Best January 30, 2015 2:01 AM  

So Byron Maxwell is the greatest DB to ever play the game then?

Where did you draw that conclusion? Revis shadows whoever Belichick tells him too. Sherman plays his zone. Its the safeties that make it all work.

Anonymous Jack Amok January 30, 2015 2:43 AM  

Where did you draw that conclusion?

Well, if Sherman is stuck with all the #3s, then Maxwell must be shutting down the #1s, cause they still struggle to move the ball. So "Fortunately, you can avoid Sherman" doesn't generally work out very well. By avoiding him, you sacrifice a third of the field and let the rest of Seattle's secondary smother whoever you send the other direction. That's like saying "fortunately you can neutralize Lynch by stacking the box with 8 defenders." You pay for that.

Revis shadows whoever Belichick tells him too. Sherman plays his zone.

Right, Revis covers whoever is the best matchup for him. Sherman covers whoever shows up. Send a big Megatron-style reciever over there, and he covers the big guy. Send a fast T.Y. Hilton type over, and he covers the small fast guy. And over his 4 year career, he's intercepted one out of every 12 passes thrown towards a guy he's covering.

Anonymous Daniel January 30, 2015 2:45 AM  

Packers decisions, not gameplay, killed them. Hoodie will go for it on 4th and 1 from his own side of the field...and definitely in the red zone. As soon as NE forces them to load the line, they are going to be in trouble.

I actually think NE engineered deflategate in order to control the noise in their favor. Hoodie wanted the 2 weeks free of distractions...so he distracted the press with an irrelevancy. A couple of minutes of atypical Hoodie actually seeming to talk about something of substance in a press conference built his team a magical bubble. The last thing he wants is two weeks of the press telling his players how good they looked against Indy. See also the 16-0 streak. Lesson learned.

Now let's see if it works.

Blogger ray January 30, 2015 4:19 AM  

" evolved into the most fearsome defensive secondary of all time."


Jack Tatum.

Blogger Rantor January 30, 2015 5:02 AM  

Will be wearing my Russel Wilson jersey and rooting for Seattle. Admittedly their play last game was killing me... No repeat of that please. They have shown they can pull it together and I think they will. No delusion that New England will dissolve like Denver though. I expect this to be a better game.

Blogger Guitar Man January 30, 2015 8:07 AM  

People here think deflate gate was bad? Morons.

Blogger Nate January 30, 2015 8:12 AM  

"And frankly, baring some fiasco like the NFCCG with a bundle of turnovers, NE is going to be steam-rolled. "

***chuckle***

I certainly hope so. I hate brady and The Hoodie.

But hoping something happens is not the same thing as believing it will happen.

Anonymous Clay January 30, 2015 8:21 AM  

Tatum was a bad-ass. Ray....but. he couldn't play in todays NFL without being suspended/fined/expelled.

SO many others, too. The Stork.

Blogger Owen January 30, 2015 8:28 AM  

91 Eagles were fun to watch (1st against Pass, 1st against Rush, 1 Total D).

2000 Ravens won the SUB for the team.

Not saying Seattle's D isn't fun to watch. They are, but each decade has a D that scares the poop out of offenses.

OpenID cailcorishev January 30, 2015 8:29 AM  

He's definitely a couple of SD above the (black American) norm.

Yeah, he could be like Obama -- a bit smarter than the average, say 110-115, but standing out like a giant among his NFL peers. That message looks bad because he eschews punctuation, but you'll notice he correctly spells words like "complaining" and "tradition," and does it automatically in a rant where he obviously didn't care what anyone thought. Can the average college freshman do that anymore?

Anonymous Will Best January 30, 2015 9:07 AM  

Well, if Sherman is stuck with all the #3s, then Maxwell must be shutting down the #1s, cause they still struggle to move the ball.

Do they? I mean maybe. Seattle was 6-4 with teams averaging 21 points against them. Then they got to the cake part of their schedule and played a bunch of teams either in a state of dysfunction (49ners) or backup QBs (cardinals, eagles, rams), which really helped pad their stats.


Right, Revis covers whoever is the best matchup for him. Sherman covers whoever shows up. Send a big Megatron-style reciever over there, and he covers the big guy.

I don't understand your point, since typically the only time Revis isn't on your best receiver is when they bracket your best receiver and stick him on your 2nd best receiver.

Anonymous robwbright January 30, 2015 10:50 AM  

This is why I'll be rooting for the Seahawks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cQxBrqYq2Y

Family from the town I grew up in had a house fire last year - I've known the dad since we were kids. The fire killed two of the kids, badly burned one of them. One of kids who died was a Seahawks fan. Because of facebook, word got to the Seahawks about the tragedy in a small West Virginia town.

Seahawks sent down a package of souvenirs and then - during Super Bowl week - Pete Carroll called the dad and talked with him for about 10 minutes. They also did a ceremony officially inducting the kid into the "12". Class.

Anonymous Jack Amok January 30, 2015 12:00 PM  

SO many others, too. The Stork.

That's "The Mad Stork" to you buddy... Funny, Ted Hendricks hated that nickname. The one he picked for himself was "Kick 'em".

Do they? I mean maybe. Seattle was 6-4 with teams averaging 21 points against them. Then they got to the cake part of their schedule and played a bunch of teams either in a state of dysfunction (49ners) or backup QBs (cardinals, eagles, rams), which really helped pad their stats.

Teams in a state of dsyfunction. That was Seattle early in the year. New England too, for that matter. Should be interesting.

I don't understand your point, since typically the only time Revis isn't on your best receiver is when they bracket your best receiver and stick him on your 2nd best receiver.

In other words, Revis gets switched to someone else if Hoodie thinks he'd struggle 1 - 1 with their best guy. Don't get me wrong though, Revis is good.

@robwbright

That's a tough story.

Anonymous Jack Amok January 30, 2015 12:12 PM  

I certainly hope so. I hate brady and The Hoodie.

I actually don't hate Brady. Don't particularly like him either though.

But hoping something happens is not the same thing as believing it will happen.

True. I am confident. Maybe irrationally so, but I am.

Anonymous Mob-Rules January 31, 2015 1:38 PM  

I believe the Pats lose because they won't run in the Super Bowl. Both times against the Giants they chose to throw nearly 40-50 times so that Brady goes out King of the Super Bowl with a 3rd MVP to tie Joe Montana. Other than Joe Namath, which QB won MVP by letting his running back get the stats? I think Seattle wins comfortably because they are truly the most balanced team in the NFL and will win as a team and not chase a legacy as New England has been.

Anonymous soon January 31, 2015 3:38 PM  

Seattle wins by 10+.

Green Bay has a better offense than the Patriots, and if your first reaction to this statement is to whine about Aaron's calf, you can go check the box score of the first game of the season. Tom doesn't have the arm, the legs, receivers, or running backs that Aaron has.

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