Wednesday, January 21, 2015

Britain wants OUT

80 percent polled want Great Britain out of the European Union:
The biggest vote on this country’s ties to ­Brussels for 40 years saw 80 per cent say they no longer want to be in Europe, the ­Daily Express can reveal. It marks a huge leap forward in this news­paper’s crusade to get Britain out of the EU.

Some 14,581 people voted – 11,706 of them want the UK to quit compared with 2,725 who want to remain part of the EU.

The mini-referendum – the first on the issue since 1975 – was organised by two senior Tory backbenchers and a prospective Tory MP.

They believe the overwhelming result, which will be presented to David Cameron today, will force him to bring forward his planned in-or-out vote on the UK’s future in Europe to next year instead of 2017.
If Cameron still won't commit to leading the UK out of the European Union, the Conservative Party is going to have to replace him. The EU has failed in literally every possible way. It has absolutely no credibility anymore; the usual threats and promises and electoral shenanigans are not going to keep the British in.

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OpenID simplytimothy January 21, 2015 8:13 AM  

Cameron will commit and lie about it. He will make a noisy show of it and come up just short. The process will take a lot of time, immediate passions will be dampened and the can will be kicked.

I base my prediction on the behavior of the American Political Class* politicians.

*Codevilla made an error with the moniker "Ruling Class". The term grants the conclusion the political class desires. "Political Class" is the better term as the emotions it stirs work complement of our dialectical arguments.

OpenID simplytimothy January 21, 2015 8:15 AM  

Addendum: my noting his behavior is not a prediction of his success. We the people (and this is a Western, not just an American, phenomenon) are adamant and will not be denied.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus January 21, 2015 8:22 AM  

Whelp, no vote for you!

Anonymous Stilicho January 21, 2015 8:35 AM  

I'm waiting for Bohm to show up and claim that this only means that 80% of Britons want themselves out of the EU, but are fine with the rest of the country (and Downing Street) remaining subject to Brussels.

Anonymous Steve January 21, 2015 8:40 AM  

If Cameron still won't commit to leading the UK out of the European Union, the Conservative Party is going to have to replace him.

The Tories are a busted flush. They haven't won a General Election since 1992.

They function much as the Republicans do in the US - to provide fake opposition to the Left and make a big fuss over the few, mostly trivial, areas where they disagree.

This is a Conservative government that:

* strains every sinew to keep us in the EU
* showed its contempt for its own base by launching surprise gay marriage legislation nobody outside the gay rights movement had actually asked for
* is pissing our money away on foreign aid while decimating our armed forces
* is up to its eyeballs in the green energy scam
* raised taxes
* makes noises about ending multiculturalism and mass immigration, then does nothing to turn it into action

Best that we just liquidate the Conservative Party entirely. It has always been fairly useless, save for that brief, shining period when (by happy accident) they put Margaret Thatcher in charge.

The Wets are too entrenched in the party for it to be worth saving. And there's no reasoning with them. They'll die with their onesies on rather than accept the proles getting their politically incorrect way.

Anonymous The Right Honorable MP from Sodomingshire January 21, 2015 8:50 AM  

We yes, I can see how some of you racists might see this way, but put aside your losing-your-homeland-phobia for a moment and consider the bigger issue:

Without Brussels doing all the running the country bit of the job, however will we Honorable Gentlemen every find the time and energy to bugger your children?

Anonymous Toby Temple January 21, 2015 8:51 AM  

C'mon, Britons! Oust Cameroon!!!

Anonymous dantealiegri January 21, 2015 9:08 AM  

If you're living in Sodomingshire, you really shouldn't be surprised..

Blogger Kryten 2X4B 523P January 21, 2015 9:17 AM  

Cameron is untrusted and unliked. Every time he opens his mouth its more lies, and I'll be surprised if he manages to stay on given that tory party membership has halved since he became leader, but he probably will.

Labour are just hanging in there, but Milliband is weak and ineffective - it would be like being ruled by a 12 year old with a headcold. Total laughingstock, and married to someone who cant even be bothered to take his name. The only way this guy would be leadership material is if someone sewed him to a flag and waved him at the head of a parade. Labour likely to be wiped out in Scotland this GE as well.

Lib Dems - neither Liberal nor Democratic, Clegg sold out all his principles for a shot at power. Again, unliked and considerd to be a liar and untrustworthy. Prediction is for Lib Dems to be pretty much decimated next election.

Doesnt leave much of a choice then does it? Greens? Sure, if you want to go back to the stone age, sharpish. BNP? totally busted as a party. UKIP - the only one out of the lot with some sense, plain speaking and liked among much of the non political population. Only trouble is that the system works against them, as does the media. Despite that, the only party making clear gains across the country.

Its hands down that we will end up with another coalition government - my guess is that itll be Labour / Green / Lib Dem / SNP and things will really go to shit, possibly forcing a Tory / UKIP alliance for the next GE after.

Assuming we have one and things havent gone all Mad Max by then.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey January 21, 2015 9:22 AM  

Obviously Britain is not voting correctly.

Anonymous Steve January 21, 2015 9:31 AM  

Kryten 2X4B 523P - Ed Miliband reminds me of Walter the Softy, minus the glasses.

Blogger Kryten 2X4B 523P January 21, 2015 9:33 AM  

Steve - he certainly does!

Anonymous cecilhenry January 21, 2015 9:46 AM  

Cameron is still committed to:


He needs to be challenged directly on that.

The West cannot be defined simply by the rejection of Islam or as a collection of legal norms. It is a culture created by a specific people and it will be destroyed if that people is dispossessed. Europeans everywhere have the self-evident right to secure their homelands for themselves, without regard to the claims others make upon it.

Blogger TheLiberatorOfBados January 21, 2015 9:56 AM  

The political machines in Britain (and Europe) are buckling under the pressure, allowing new parties to emerge and take the lead. I think this year will definitely see critical mass hit for Britain in this regard. You can see constantly in the BBC trying to show UKIP in a negative light or trying to show that they have no relevance when they have clearly made considerable gains in just the past year.

Mark Reckless and Douglas Carswell both changed sides, stepped down as MPs, and both won on the UKIP ticket by a landslide. In Rotheram (if I'm not mistaken), a safe Labour seat, the vote was so close for UKIP there had to be several recounts to be sure, which was a huge spike in results compared to 2 years prior in that same area. I'm not even living in Britain, but just doing some cursory research shows something massive is happening over there and in Europe, and the media is reacting as though it's either not happening, or is very desperately trying to convince everybody else that it's not happening.

Look at what happened at this Question Time last month:

Look at how pissed off some of the audience gets and how fed up they get when a heckler in the audience tries to shut them down by calling them racist or homophobic. They don't back down, they are fighting back. You see the braindead celebrity get taken to task on being a waste of oxygen and questioned as to why anybody should take what he has to say seriously. As Nigel himself said after that QT, the most interesting parts of it were with how engaged and passionate the audience was with the panelists.

I've been saying this often for the last few months, but Political Correctness is dead in Europe and Britain. The media and Political Class will continue to espouse it, but it's clear that with all the bad shit that's happened in Britain and Europe in recent months, that you don't call a spade a spade at your own risk these days, and the citizenry pushing back at the typical cries of "raciss" to shut down discussion on serious issues is now failing and ineffectual at controlling discourse, as is the media's attempts to control the narrative.

Likewise, what is happening in Europe is portending what is happening here in the US. The November results showed that people were not only sending a message to "Democrats" but to Republicans as well as they are actively seeking to purge the RINOs from the Republican party. What happened to Cantor portended the November result, yet the media has continued to behave much as the BBC has, showing either a bias, or a fundamental disconnect from reality (or both). With the UVA hoax, GamerGate, we're seeing Political Correctness begin to deteriorate here in the West. It's not dead yet, but it's well on its way there, and as the pressure mounts here as it has in Britain and Europe, it's only a matter of time before it buckles, just as it has on the other side of the Atlantic.

Anonymous 11B January 21, 2015 10:09 AM  

Cameron will address this about as well as the GOP leaders will address executive amnesty.

Anonymous Edjamacator January 21, 2015 10:16 AM  

GB's an island, right? Why don't they all just get on one side and push it further away? Idiots.

Anonymous PA January 21, 2015 10:36 AM  

When nationalists in the UK become strong enough a player they can offer the following concession to the traitor ruling class:

"Step aside now and we will guarantee you a comfortable retirement. Except Tony Blair; he gets a full Nuremberg trial."

Will any of the traitors give one fuck about Blair's fate?

Anonymous Susan January 21, 2015 10:52 AM  

Breitbart's Big London site has been covering this issue for the past year. They have also given quite the education regarding EU membership.

Under EU membership, Britain has no legal control over her borders. Under the rules set by Brussels, GB has to maintain open border immigration no matter what the damage or cost from the immigrants. We can sit here in America an mock them, but thanks to Tony Blair, they have no legal control over the situation.

Thanks to the open borders, muslims are flooding over the borders like a toxic plague of vermin. The EU rules have stolen the sovereignty of all member nations, making it easier for muslims to move in and quietly take over.

No wonder our muslim president wants Britain to stay in the EU. Deflection might have saved dhimmi Dave in the past, but not only is it a new day over there, the natives are extremely angry. Fighting mad in some places.

Blogger sysadmn January 21, 2015 10:59 AM  

Without Brussels doing all the running the country bit of the job, however will we Honorable Gentlemen every find the time and energy to bugger your children?

Oh, we thought you'd outsourced that to the Muzzies.

Anonymous Donn January 21, 2015 11:02 AM  

Edjamacator - Because it would become unbalanced and flip over just like Guam.

Anonymous Anubis January 21, 2015 11:19 AM  

"Honorable Gentlemen every find the time and energy to bugger your children? Oh, we thought you'd outsourced that to the Muzzies."

The muzzies go after the girls, if they where competing with Labor for little boys, Labor would make Vlad Tepes look like a Buddhist monk.

Anonymous The Right Honorable MP from Sodomingshire January 21, 2015 11:21 AM  

No, no, sysadmn, you've got it all wrong. Share and share alike, whether it's the untapped booty of your children or the centuries-old birthright of a peaceful, developed nation, we are more than happy to split the goods between ourselves and the Muhammadan.

Diversity and Equality!

OpenID genericviews January 21, 2015 2:21 PM  

Good thing the UK isn't a democracy. The whole point of having a bi-cameral Parlement is to prevent the peasants from running the country while giving them the illusion that their votes matter. Why is it we have a Bi-cameral legislature?

Blogger Student in Blue January 21, 2015 2:34 PM  

Political Correctness is dead, long live the Uncomfortable Truth.

Anonymous Stilicho January 21, 2015 2:43 PM  

Why is it we have a Bi-cameral legislature?

One to pitch and one to catch?

Blogger Josh January 21, 2015 3:00 PM  

Goes both ways y'all

Anonymous Bobbala January 21, 2015 6:26 PM  

So did South Carolina ... what's your point?

Blogger Derrick Bonsell January 21, 2015 6:30 PM  

Labour leads in the polls and if they win, leaving the European Union is a non-starter for another Parliament.

Anonymous Harsh January 21, 2015 7:19 PM  

Let us hope that the Saxon is the first to quit the EU and the first to drive out the invading "immigrants" from their land.

Blogger Akulkis January 21, 2015 8:40 PM  

They will. Being an Island makes it easier -- no "safe zone" just across the border to play "nyah nyah you can't shoot me here" games.

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