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Saturday, January 03, 2015

Continental warming

Temperatures continue to rise in Europe:
[T]he relentless stream of migrants to Europe — propelled by the war in Syria and turmoil across the Middle East and the Horn of Africa — has combined with economic troubles and rising fear of Islamic radicalism to fuel a backlash against immigrants, directed most viciously at Muslims.

The simmering resentments and suspicions have driven debates across Europe about tighter controls on immigration. Worries about immigration have helped buoy right-wing parties in Britain, Denmark, France and Hungary. German officials recorded more than 70 attacks against mosques from 2012 to 2014, including an arson, and the police in Britain have recorded an increase in hate crimes against Muslims. There are few places where the turn against immigrants is more surprising than Sweden, where a solid core of citizens still supports the 65-year-old open door policy toward immigrants facing hardship that has long earned international respect for the country....

Opposition to the rising numbers is growing. The far-right, anti-immigrant Sweden Democrats had their best showing ever — nearly 13 percent of votes — in elections in September. The entry of the Sweden Democrats to parliament in 2010 had already opened the door for a previously unthinkable discussion about turning back the country’s policy of taking in foreigners on humanitarian grounds and granting them access to the country’s generous welfare system.

Adrian Groglopo, a professor of social science at the University of Gothenburg, has studied discrimination in Sweden over the past decade. He said that Sweden has long been a racially segregated country where many immigrants live in ghettos and struggle to find jobs, but that the success of the Sweden Democrats has made racism more socially acceptable.
By the time the current generation of young people take power, "racism" (or as it is more properly described, nationalism) will not only be socially acceptable, it will be legally mandated. Merkel and her merry band of multiculturalists are on their way out, and once the nationalists gain power everywhere from Greece to Germany, from Serbia to Sweden, the tides will reverse in a manner that will surprise nearly everyone who knows nothing of history and its cycles.

Note this growing movement in Germany, which has already surpassed the peak popularity of the Tea Party: One German in eight would join an anti-Muslim march if a rapidly-growing protest movement organized one in their home towns, according to an opinion poll published on Thursday.

Immigration in small numbers by those who fully integrate in every way, including language and religion, is beneficial to a nation. But that is very different than mass migration, which is not merely detrimental to a nation, it is materially worse than war. And multi-ethnic societies always collapse, usually in violence.

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Anonymous Poli_Mis January 03, 2015 6:56 AM  

Finally Germany starts to wake up.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler January 03, 2015 7:08 AM  

Just like Hitler did, need to get rid of the Masons and the Jews. Everyone should read at least the first 80 pages of Mein Kampf. Everything he talked about is happening here in America. The same stuff repeats. The Jews own the media and they press their own political concerns. Hitler even talks about a situation which echoes Hussein Obama's case. Nobodies rise to power and those that are known, but to nationalist for Jewish concerns, sink into oblivion, like Pat Buchanan and David Duke.

It is funny, all this talk of "freedom" in America, yet they are enslaved to a foreign power. That is funny. Free to be enslaved.

Blogger JACIII January 03, 2015 7:09 AM  

Man, we really didn't want the Germans pissed off again. I just hope the NWO has given up on the US as its enforcer by the time Germany really gets to acting up.

Blogger Heuristics January 03, 2015 7:11 AM  

The Sweden Democrats are not far-right. They are very similar to how the Social Democrats were about 30 years ago. That is they are left wing, socialists.

Blogger JACIII January 03, 2015 7:13 AM  

Screw it, I'm moving to Mexico and joining a cartel.

Anonymous VD January 03, 2015 7:15 AM  

That is they are left wing, socialists.

True, but the key thing is that they are nationalists. And as bad as national socialists are, they are better than multiculturalists. Syrizia in Greece is the same, which is a bit ironic given that it is Golden Dawn who are supposed to be the national socialists.

Blogger Dan Holland January 03, 2015 7:18 AM  

Recollections of Mauthausen, May 1945
By Capt. Alexander Gotz MD, MEDICAL DETACHMENT
41ST Armored Cavalry Reconnaissance Squadron, Mechanized

Another sad and regrettable fact with which we had to deal at Mauthausen was the animosity which
people of different nations have for each other. There were. many Russian and Polish POW's in the camp, (contrary to the Geneva Convention of course). They began fighting with each other soon after they were liberated. There were several deaths. Ironically, we had to man the Nazi watchtowers anew, this time With US soldiers and machine/guns, in order to keep those old enemies and fellow sufferers from killing each other. I have never gone back to Mauthausen. Once was enough.

Even with sharing the horrors of a death camp will not make people have an affinity toward one another. I found the above comment the other day and had to share.

Anonymous Poli_Mis January 03, 2015 7:20 AM  

But but but this will lead to less diverse cuisine!

If all the Turks leave, who'll make Germans pizza

Blogger Mindstorm January 03, 2015 7:39 AM  

@Dan Holland:

Mauthausen prisoners were civilians, not POWs. And Poland was under the Russian occupation at the time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauthausen-Gusen_concentration_camp

Anonymous Salt January 03, 2015 7:52 AM  

One thing with the Muslims in the EU, there doesn't appear to be any real attempt to assimilate. Mosques have been going up everywhere, their dress is ethnic, and Sharia is on the horizon. At least here in the US, except for language, the Mexicans dress similar and are Catholic. The EU's problem of mass-migration is certainly of a different bent and I expect it to boil over way sooner and for reasons quite different than what we have here in the States.

Blogger Krul January 03, 2015 8:01 AM  

So to get some perspective, I looked up the religion demographics for Germany and the US to find out the percentage of people in each country who are Muslims.

USA: 0.6% Islam
Germany: 4% Islam

A much greater percentage of the population of Germany professes Islam than of the population of the United States. The percentage in England is 5%.

Based on this hasty review, I speculate that the major controversies over Muslim immigration and Sharia law that constitute the daily news out of Europe will characterize the US when the percentage of Muslims here approaches 4%.

Blogger Bob Wallace January 03, 2015 9:02 AM  

"The Sweden Democrats are not far-right. They are very similar to how the Social Democrats were about 30 years ago. That is they are left wing, socialists."

It is the left who are the mass murderers. Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao Tse Tung, the Nazis (yes, Hitler and the Nazis were leftists) are the ones who will create Muslim slaughter in Europe.

Blogger RandalThorn January 03, 2015 9:11 AM  

Vox, you mean 'Syriza' as if SYnaspismos (Coalition) RIZospastikis (Radical) Aristeras (Left).

And there are no nationalists in there at all, multiculturists to the bone, but with GD in prison for crimes they did not commit (I do not count opposition to NWO as a crime but some may think otherwise) there are little left.

Anonymous Microphone Jones January 03, 2015 9:14 AM  

Perhaps its the SJW tainted media I've been reading, but I do not see, in anyway shape or form, "young people" supporting anything you've said. About 90% of the young people I've come across, on and off the net, are pretty much SJW's.

Blogger Lucas January 03, 2015 9:21 AM  

Vox, for the good part, most "nationalistic" European parties are controled opposition (and you know who controls them and that is why racial identity is for the most part unspoken in their "anti-islam" rant).

True National European parties address the bankers, and if they attack the bankers, you know who will be attacked next. (It rhymes with stews) European anti-islamic movements are being co-opted "to sing Landino songs", and not restore ethnic purity in the White Continent.

Integration with muslims is impossible. It's either 1) ethnic cleansing, or 2) voluntary departure, or 3) ....Wait. Those two are the only options.

Anonymous Aphelion January 03, 2015 9:34 AM  

And with a tendency to concentrate into ethnic enclaves, immigrant muslim communities in Europe have achieved local control of governments, pushing for their religious holidays, sharia law, and institutionalizing foreign culture. Just look at the capital of Europe, Brussels, 25.5% Muslim, while the rest of Belgium is 4%. Rotterdam and Amsterdam are also about 25% Muslim.

Amusingly The EU says that Sharia is incompatible with EU human rights laws... But the same EU promotes mass immigration of Muslims. Belgium is trying to prevent the Islamic Party from taking office, saying the party does not represent a broad majority or some such.

And there is crime promoted by various immigrant gangs, Algerian, Morrocan, etc. Extortion, drugs, muggings, etc. if you can't afford to live far away from such people you are forced to turn a blind eye, join them, or join an opposing gang. That opposing gang is probably among the white supremist groups that are growing across much of Europe.

This is sad and despicable state of affairs caused by nations who have lost their faith and turned to atheist, or worse, churchian philosophies to build their shiny, socialist, multicultural republics. In doing so they laid a foundation of sand and their construct shall not prevail.

The Churchians have forgotten that we are called to go forth and make believers of all nations. Not bring in unbelievers to destroy our own nation.

Anonymous VD January 03, 2015 9:38 AM  

Perhaps its the SJW tainted media I've been reading, but I do not see, in anyway shape or form, "young people" supporting anything you've said. About 90% of the young people I've come across, on and off the net, are pretty much SJW's.

I live in Europe. Do you? Is there the American equivalent of "America belongs to us?"

Anonymous VD January 03, 2015 9:40 AM  

And there are no nationalists in there at all

They certainly are in the economic sense. That's why they terrify Goldman Sachs and the ECB.

Anonymous Poli_Mis January 03, 2015 9:45 AM  

As more and more college graduates look forward to a life of poverty, look for the youth in this country to swing towards nationalism

Blogger Jason Roberts January 03, 2015 9:49 AM  

With the USA becoming Latin America's dumping ground for its gangs and other refuse, what are the prospects of El Salvador and Honduras improving? For example, the socialist candidates are encouraging the exporting of their likely voters thereby diminishing their prospects for electoral success. Won't that open up reform opportunities?

Anonymous Bz January 03, 2015 9:52 AM  

"Adrian Groglopo, a professor of social science at the University of Gothenburg, has studied discrimination in Sweden over the past decade. He said that Sweden has long been a racially segregated country where many immigrants live in ghettos and struggle to find jobs, but that the success of the Sweden Democrats has made racism more socially acceptable."

Groglopo, that certainly sounds as Swedish as Johansen. Are we sure immigrants actually are "struggling" to find jobs, rather than placidly accepting their monthly dole? Are we sure immigrants do not self-segregate like they do elsewhere? And there seems to be some confusion about causality in the last part of that sentence. (When looking at causation between A and B, one should in particular make sure that there is no other factor causing both A and B.)

I wonder furthermore what Groglopo means by saying "Sweden has long been a racially segregated country" given that Scandinavia basically was a whitopia until twenty or thirty years ago. Not a lot to segregate before then.

Blogger JACIII January 03, 2015 9:55 AM  

Once the US is no longer economically able to meddle in every corner of the world an ilk invasion and take over of Central America is in order, Jason.

Anonymous Steve January 03, 2015 10:06 AM  

Salt - One thing with the Muslims in the EU, there doesn't appear to be any real attempt to assimilate. Mosques have been going up everywhere, their dress is ethnic, and Sharia is on the horizon.

The majority of our Muslims are "economically inactive", which is a far nicer term than welfare parasite.

They're not what you might call the best and brightest of the Muslim world, they're mainly the idiot offspring of first cousins, with just enough cunning to apply for benefits and engage in their other well documented criminal proclivities.

OpenID simplytimothy January 03, 2015 10:28 AM  

I like this development.

We can encourage it with some good rhetorical devices to drop into the laps of the suicidal multiculti types we run into.

Currently, just expressing "good for them" is enough to cause a moment of consternation for my target.

I am also using variations of "France for the French, Germany for the Germans, Mexico For the Mexicans, Israel for the Jews, America for the Americans". Notably, there has been zero push-back so far.

If anybody has some other rhetorical arrows, please share them so I may add them to my quiver.

thx.


Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey January 03, 2015 10:30 AM  

More mosque-burnings, please.

Anonymous NorthernHamlet January 03, 2015 10:36 AM  

Microphone Jones,

About 90% of the young people I've come across, on and off the net, are pretty much SJW's.

They're SJWs when it suits them. Increasingly, many of them are racist against blacks and Mexicans right below the surface. Now, I don't see any of them turning nationalistic at this point, as they are often unpatriotic. But tides turn quickly.

Anonymous Joe January 03, 2015 10:39 AM  

"Mauthausen prisoners were civilians, not POWs. And Poland was under the Russian occupation at the time."

Not just occupation. Poland was being cleansed by the Soviets. The Soviet organised partisan movements in Poland (such as the Gwardia Ludowa) usually targeted Polish civilians, NSZ and Home Army soldiers ahead of the Germans, while the Soviets allowed the Germans to murder hundreds of thousands of civilians in Warsaw to help secure the capital for their new government. No wonder there was just a little bit of animosity. Western Europe including West Germany had been liberated while Poland would face Soviet oppression, all approved in Yalta.

Anonymous Will Best January 03, 2015 10:41 AM  

Hawaiian Libertarian pointed out, a couple months back, the elite successfully got everybody interbred in Hawaii before the natives could ethically cleanse the foreigners.

Then again Hawaii is geographically a small place and the cultural destruction could happen relatively simultaneously. The problem for the European elite is Muslims have overplayed their hand. They might be 80%+ of certain neighborhoods and 25% of a this or that city, but when they push their culturally destructive policies there are far too many people who have no contact with "peaceful" Muslims. The result is nationalism.

Anonymous PA January 03, 2015 10:49 AM  

-- "Western Europe including West Germany had been liberated while Poland would face Soviet oppression, all approved in Yalta."

In an irony of history, Poland and other Soviet-controlled countries are in a healthier demographic shape than Western Europeans. Communism's final decades in effect became a shield against Pax Americana's population replacement and cultural Marxism.



-- "And there are no nationalists in there at all"

Vox doesn't strike me as a Pollyanna or a pep talker.

Blogger icr January 03, 2015 10:54 AM  

I think the problem is more racial (i.e., different breeding populations) than religious:

http://10news.dk/ferry-catastrophe-muslims-beat-women-and-children-to-save-themselves/
(...)
“It was hell. I saw some scary scenes. There were men, Iraqis, Turks, Pakistanis on the ship, who was told to sit down to allow rescuers to prioritize children, elderly and women. But they climbed, beat and pulled the people to come first to the rescue helicopter and into safety. I was also beaten. I was so furious. It was really ugly. I will never forget it.”, Said Dimitra Theodossiou.”

You aren't thinking of the Holy Quran when you're in a state of panic.

Anonymous Bobo January 03, 2015 10:57 AM  

"Once the US is no longer economically able to meddle in every corner of the world an ilk invasion and take over of Central America is in order, Jason."

In jest or not, it's a great idea. I've secured the N. Pacific beachhead in Costa Rica, come bask in the largesse of liberty.

Blogger icr January 03, 2015 11:09 AM  

On PEDIGA: "Josef Schuster, chairman of the Central Council of Jews in Germany, voiced his opposition to the group, saying that the possibility of an Islamic conquest of Germany would be as "absurd" as a resurrection of the Nazi regime.''

Jews apparently have such an inborn hatred of white Christians that they'll support their [the Christians] destruction even when it goes against their own interests.

Anonymous Will Best January 03, 2015 11:18 AM  

I think the problem is more racial (i.e., different breeding populations) than religious

In Muslim countries men are treated as a priority because they have legal duties to fulfill to their families that women do not. Anybody claiming that women & children go first would be spouting utter nonsense to these men. My working knowledge of the Quran is spartan at best, but I thought such societal order was dictated by it.

If that is the case then it is very much an issue of religion/culture that is incompatible with Western notions. Not just the baser instincts of everybody to recognize people that are different than them as not one of them in times of high stress.

As an aside, I don't rightly care about women first. a) Unless the child is still sucking its mother's tit its better off being raised by its father. b) 60 years of women clamoring about equality.

Anonymous Daniel January 03, 2015 11:34 AM  

About 90% of the young people I've come across, on and off the net, are pretty much SJW's.

WHAT? No way. Maybe 5% are serious SJWs. Maybe. Then there is youth SJW culture, which gets mandatory lip service by a higher percentage, and everyone who disagrees (except the non-conformists) remains silent.

Trust me, when the SJW thinks he or she has the hearts and minds, the rest of the youth let her know and exert magical Millennial "consensus" in a heartbeat.

Don't confuse what people say cheaply for what they do at a cost.

Blogger Joshua_D January 03, 2015 11:35 AM  

simplytimothy January 03, 2015 10:28 AM

If anybody has some other rhetorical arrows, please share them so I may add them to my quiver.

thx.


Immigration without integration is invasion.

A little more provocative than France for the French, but it needs to be said. I live in western NC and I've had more and more chances to talk about immigration with friends and coworkers. I always bring up the problem that immigrants simply aren't integrating or assimilating. I usually say something like, "If I wanted to live in Mexico, then I'd move to Mexico. Do you want to live in Mexico?" Of course, most everyone says, "No, I don't want to live in Mexico." I also try to throw in the comment, "The people make the place."

Anonymous Joe January 03, 2015 11:39 AM  

"In an irony of history, Poland and other Soviet-controlled countries are in a healthier demographic shape than Western Europeans. Communism's final decades in effect became a shield against Pax Americana's population replacement and cultural Marxism."

Well, the curator of the new Jewish Holocaust Museum in Warsaw pointed out that Poland was an anomaly in terms of its homogenous ethnic make up. So don't worry, they're working on that already.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v00dFYt_fI

Blogger Ragin' Dave January 03, 2015 11:42 AM  

icr - Christians protect (or are at least supposed to protect) women and children. The call to protect and help those weaker than you is a constant call throughout the New Testament.

Muslims on the other hand think that women and children are there to be used and thrown away. So why should they bother protecting them, or even caring about them in the case of an emergency?

The two cultures are incompatible, which is why Europe is having such a hard time right now. While atheism reigns in much of Europe, the culture is still Christianity-based.

OpenID simplytimothy January 03, 2015 11:46 AM  

“...There were men, Iraqis, Turks, Pakistanis on the ship, who was told to sit down to allow rescuers to prioritize children, elderly and women. But they climbed, beat and pulled the people to come first to the rescue helicopter and into safety. I was also beaten. I was so furious. It was really ugly. I will never forget it.”, Said Dimitra Theodossiou.”

That! is what a feminist looks like.


@Jashua_D

Immigration without integration is invasion.
The people make the place <---hello, Detroit, Camden and Philly!

Thank you.


Anonymous PA January 03, 2015 11:53 AM  

Poland was not homogeneous prior to 1945; pre-war ethnic Poles were around 60% of the country's population. It became neay 100% Polish with the post-war redrawing of borders and population transfers.

It was by no means an anomaly in its ethnic purity. Most European countries were, especially in terms of race.

If they're "working on it," then as a result of Yalta they have a 50-year late start.

Anonymous Michael January 03, 2015 12:03 PM  

So long as homogenous Christian nations continue to allow for Christian-hating Marxist zealots to run roughshod in their nations, peace and prosperity shall be short-lived. In order that their nations maintain such requires no less than Christian authoritarian government. Let the Marxists howl and the minorities screech about oppression ...only to fade into obscurity. The people are the heart and soul of the nation. Therefore, let the government serve the majority, not a whiny minority. Criminalize all forms of usury and the promotion of deviancy. A moral nation is a well-regulated nation. Freedom is derived from obedience to God.

Mikhail Gorbachev already attempted minority-style "democracy" in the 90's with disastrous results. Let history be a guide.

Anonymous John January 03, 2015 12:13 PM  

"I am also using variations of "France for the French, Germany for the Germans, Mexico For the Mexicans, Israel for the Jews, America for the Americans". Notably, there has been zero push-back so far.

If anybody has some other rhetorical arrows, please share them so I may add them to my quiver."


How about coupling African-Americans with American-Americans in a sentence to see if their heads will explode. As in "I think this is an issue that both African-Americans and American-Americans alike can agree upon."

Anonymous rienzi January 03, 2015 12:15 PM  

"About 90% of the young people I've come across, on and off the net, are pretty much SJW's."


Don't know if you're talking about American or European young people, but I personally know a ton of ordinary, everyday, middle-class Norwegian teens and twenties, and, without exception, they hate the third-world immigrants to their country with a burning passion, orders of magnitude greater than the worst you will hear about the Mexicans here.

Blogger automatthew January 03, 2015 12:33 PM  

Immigration is Painless

Blogger rycamor January 03, 2015 12:33 PM  

@Krul, and Sweden currently stands at 5%. I remember in the 80s the common knowledge was that Sweden was extremely conservative about who she allowed entrance. So much can change, so fast.

Anyone saying there is no outbreak of nationalism among the European young is clueless, as Vox says. My sister married a Swede and lives in a small town in the country and they have already had major problems in this area.

It's a sad scenario from their point of view, because they are both Christian missionaries who spent time in the middle east, and they were *completely* unprepared for how their own country would shift. There was some local ugliness when the government moved a small community of Somalis into their town, and my brother-in-law made some comments to local news about wanting to help these people, and ended up getting tons of hate mail and phone calls. This thing is not organized from some top-down "controlled opposition" or any such crap. It is quite simply young, disaffected Europeans who have literally zero outlets for how to deal with this problem. The Euro elite have placed this problem squarely on the shoulders of its citizens, and are now going to sit by, tut-tutting at the outcome.

Anonymous The other skeptic January 03, 2015 12:57 PM  

The Euro elite have placed this problem squarely on the shoulders of its citizens, and are now going to sit by, tut-tutting at the outcome.

Breivik showed them how to make the elites pay.

Anonymous HalibetLector January 03, 2015 1:54 PM  

@microphone

I've noticed a growing trend over the last year on Reddit and Hacker News. It used to be if you mentioned immigration in a negative light, you were downvoted into oblivion. Last week, I mentioned how bad mass immigration is for labor wages and was upvoted on both sites! Nobody voiced their overt agreement with me, but baby steps. It's progress.

In person, I've noticed how me and a lot of my relatives used to be vocally pro-multikult and pro-immigration. The last few years, all of them have spoken out against obama, non-assimilating immigrants and immigration in general, in public. One particular uncle has even gone back to using the old racial slurs. He works in logging and he's had coworkers killed by inept illegal immigrant labor. He refuses to work with them now. They're no longer afraid of being called racist.

Of course, my family are all small town rednecks. Some of them live in cities now, like myself, but we're all the product of K selection and actually think for ourselves. As soon as we saw the shit with our own eyes, when it finally landed on our doorstep in the middle of nowhere, our opinions shifted in a hurry. I think a lot of rural America is in the same boat. They're also the most heavily armed segment of society. So there's that.

Blogger glad2meetyou January 03, 2015 2:08 PM  

"If anybody has some other rhetorical arrows, please share them so I may add them to my quiver."

Africa for blacks, Asia for Asians, white countries for everyone.

I saw that one at Chateau Heartiste awhile back, and I've used it with success since.

Blogger Robert What? January 03, 2015 2:11 PM  

It will be interesting to see if there are enough ethnic German young men left in Germany to make a difference. They'll have two enemies to face: the invaders and their own government.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler January 03, 2015 2:11 PM  

The Swedes have always practiced segregation, the Danes are kept across the sea and away from them. Having lived in Denmark for three months, one picks up easily the Danish hatred of Swedes and things Swedish.

Blogger Shimshon January 03, 2015 2:16 PM  

Since Poland has been mentioned several times...

I don't claim anything other than a moderate amount of lay interest in Polish history, but the Polish response to the murder of something like 3 million Jews AFTER the Holocaust is instructive for minorities everywhere in Europe.

Even Jews seem to be ridiculously ignorant that after the war, with about 500K Jews still left in Poland, that was not good enough for them. When those Jews started returning to their homes and attempted to reclaim them, the Poles reacted with a series of pogroms. This finally knocked some sense into them, and the vast majority left over the next few years, to the point that about 20K were left by 1950.

My maternal grandmother hailed from Poland. She came to the US in the 1920s, before the war, and harbored a lifelong hatred of Poles. She was happy to leave when she did. Had absolutely no sentimentality about the old country, and rarely talked about her life there. Lost her entire family (mine too) except for her sister, who also came around the same time. Was rather upset when my mother visited her old village in the mid-1990s (interestingly, there were people still alive who remembered my family).

You think Poland is unique?

The Muslims and their SJW allies are willfully blind to the bloodshed they are fomenting with their mass-immigration support and participation.

Blogger Robert What? January 03, 2015 2:19 PM  

@Jason Roberts

Very interesting question. Many countries south of the border are shipping large potions of their dependency classes to the US. Does that mean that some of those countries will become more conservative (relatively speaking) and inviting to the productive classes? It certainly sounds reasonable.

Anonymous Grinder January 03, 2015 2:26 PM  

OK, muslims in white countries is bad news but it is far worse than that. If your house is inundated with mosquitos it is common sense to not only get rid of them but also deal with whoever keeps holding the screen doors open.
In Europe there is a growing feeling that maybe having so many mosquitos is not a good thing which is better than the oblivious apathy of the majority of N.American whites. Our nations (aside from a few already awakened among us) are still a long way off from recognizing the screen door openers who are the root cause.
It is jewry and the capitalist elite. These two (who are often the same) have the gov't pull to satisfy their agendas. The latter want cheap labour and larger markets while the former want the destruction of all white nations and to create a world of their own complete with docile, disarmed slaves too fragmented to resist.

Blogger The Anti-Gnostic January 03, 2015 2:38 PM  

Having lived in Denmark for three months, one picks up easily the Danish hatred of Swedes and things Swedish.

Why is that? Just wondering, as I'm not versed in Scandinavian history or culture.

Blogger glad2meetyou January 03, 2015 2:44 PM  

@ShimShon

I never put 2 and 2 together on mass-immigration. Multiculturalist politics are a road to gratuitous amounts of bloodshed and suffering. I'll have to use that in arguments against the leftists I'm surrounded by. It's strange that the ethics of peace-loving multiculturalists lead to a more gruesome fate than the ethics held by their opponents: the nationalists and, over here, the weapon-loving rednecks. I guess it's as some say around here: if you want peace, prepare for war.

Anonymous Grinder January 03, 2015 2:50 PM  

Jason Roberts January 03, 2015 9:49 AM
With the USA becoming Latin America's dumping ground for its gangs and other refuse, what are the prospects of El Salvador and Honduras improving? For example, the socialist candidates are encouraging the exporting of their likely voters thereby diminishing their prospects for electoral success. Won't that open up reform opportunities?


I'm a little surprised that people might think that. The date might be illuminating to see the value of personal remittances to relatives back home as a percentage of GDP.

I believe the billion$ leaving our countries are used to help feed the next generations of subhuman invaders to come here. Not all of them can make it here all at once so they will vote for the parties domestically that will work to make migrations to white countries easier. It's a win for the migrants as well as the countries of origin and a loss for the white race.

Anonymous Grinder January 03, 2015 2:54 PM  

I meant to say "the data might be illuminating. Also, in case it isn't obvious, white survivability is dependent on stopping the subhuman influx and thereby removing the incentive to subhuman countries to promote irresponsible and otherwise unsustainable population growth.

Anonymous Jack Amok January 03, 2015 2:58 PM  

Based on this hasty review, I speculate that the major controversies over Muslim immigration and Sharia law that constitute the daily news out of Europe will characterize the US when the percentage of Muslims here approaches 4%.

I have a feeling that may be sooner rather than later. When Europe starts kicking them out, somehow I doubt they'll all go home to Mess O'ptamia. I have a bad feeling they'll be the USAs new wave of huddled masses yearning for free stuff.

Anonymous Joe January 03, 2015 2:59 PM  

"Even Jews seem to be ridiculously ignorant that after the war, with about 500K Jews still left in Poland, that was not good enough for them. When those Jews started returning to their homes and attempted to reclaim them, the Poles reacted with a series of pogroms. This finally knocked some sense into them, and the vast majority left over the next few years, to the point that about 20K were left by 1950."

Which pogroms were those? And which Poles had the authority to organize "pogroms"? Poland was controlled by the Reds. Also the Jews were allowed to leave by these autorities while gentiles where not.

Poland invited and gave Jews shelter and protection for centuries. Read up about the Statute of Kalisz.

And even now many Jews are still around in Poland. Maybe it's not politically correct to say, but even president Kwasnieski's mother was Jewish.

Anonymous Jack Amok January 03, 2015 3:01 PM  

About 90% of the young people I've come across, on and off the net, are pretty much SJW's.

Young people tend to be outraged about minor injustices because they don't have enough experience to know that the minor ones are there to prevent far, far worse ones. Plus, they are going through a developmental phase marked by counter-dependant behavior (e.g. they disagree with their parents about most everything) as a means of establishing their own identity, so they have an emotional need to feel that outrage.

If they happen to be members of an affluent society that can and does indulge them so that they themselves are subjected to few injustices, they will borrow the minor injustices of others to complain about - and that's classic SJW behavior, being outraged on someone else's behalf.

Our society won't remain affluent much longer because the idiot Boomers have squandered everything handed to them and we've just about burned thorugh all the stored capital. Once our young rebels feel the bite of poverty and deprivation themselves, I don't think they'll have much time to be outraged on behalf of others, they'll be plenty busy being outraged for themselves, and with damn good reason.

Anonymous Joe January 03, 2015 3:03 PM  

"If they're "working on it," then as a result of Yalta they have a 50-year late start."

I don't think multiculturalism has been around 50 years, in Western Europe. In Germany wasn't the major issue the importation of cheap Turkish labor?

You're also forgetting that elimination of the pre-WW2 elites and replacing them with Soviet apparatchiks did not help either.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus January 03, 2015 4:01 PM  

glad2meetyou: "It's strange that the ethics of peace-loving multiculturalists lead to a more gruesome fate than the ethics held by their opponents: the nationalists and, over here, the weapon-loving rednecks."

The invader is a man of peace; he wants to take over your country with no resistance.

Blogger Mindstorm January 03, 2015 4:10 PM  

As if Poles weren't dying in death camps themselves. Jews came to Poland in significant numbers under the rule of Kazimierz Wielki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_III_the_Great#Relationship_with_Polish_Jews
So, they had a looong history of living there. Interestingly enough, Poles made the greatest portion of 'Righteous Among the Nations', as called by Jews themselves.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Righteous_Among_the_Nations
It's also worth noting that many secular Jews took part in 'Bolshevization' of Poland after WWII. They were over-represented in Bezpieka:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Public_Security_(Poland)
starting with Jakub Berman. So...

Anonymous The other skeptic January 03, 2015 4:39 PM  

The NY Fish Wrap cries about some Mosques being burned down ...

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus January 03, 2015 4:54 PM  

The other skeptic: "The NY Fish Wrap cries about some Mosques being burned down ..."

Yes, that's what Vox Day linked to.

Anonymous ENthePeasant January 03, 2015 5:10 PM  

What amuses me about the Times article is the total lack of explaining the Anti-Immigrant side. There's nothing but nebulous insertions about fear and misunderstanding. Funny shit. Malmo is now a Muslim shithole but they never mention that.
http://10news.dk/malmo-sweden-after-36-bombs-in-2014-and-several-attacks-on-police-stations-streets-are-cordoned-off-to-protect-police-station-against-bombings/

Anonymous The other skeptic January 03, 2015 6:07 PM  

The other skeptic: "The NY Fish Wrap cries about some Mosques being burned down ..."

Yes, that's what Vox Day linked to.


I can only plead that the furious coding has addled my brain.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus January 03, 2015 6:39 PM  

The other skeptic: "I can only plead that the furious coding has addled my brain."

Innocent, by reason of code-addled brain.

May your bugs be few and fixable.

Anonymous The other skeptic January 03, 2015 6:46 PM  

Police Chief shits on his officers.

I am sure it will end well.

Anonymous Luke January 03, 2015 9:10 PM  

Re West Germany being "liberated" by the Western Allies at the end of WWII:

I suggest reading the book "Hellstorm" about the death of Nazi Germany. The author claims that more German POWs died in Western prison camps post-WWII than died in combat in 1944 in France. Likewise, he claims that more Germans died in the post-WWII ethnic cleansings than died during the war.

Anonymous Jack Amok January 03, 2015 9:49 PM  

Police Chief shits on his officers.

He looks like a creep. Looks like Hollywood's idea of a Nazi spy.

Blogger Shimshon January 04, 2015 2:52 AM  

Joe,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kielce_pogrom

That's just after a very cursory search. There's more. If you're really serious, do the research yourself.

I know very well that Jews were indeed welcomed with open arms to Poland...in the 15th century. Get real. Any love between Jews and Poles was long gone by the Holocaust. Poland and Jew-hatred are age old. There is no way the Nazis could have killed 3 million Polish Jews without extensive collaboration. Post-war was just a continuation.
That'

Blogger Shimshon January 04, 2015 5:34 AM  

Regarding the many Jews now in Poland, this too is a recent post-USSR resurgence, just like the massive uptick of Jews in Germany. By 1989, there were a few thousand Jews left in Poland, and something like 20K in Germany. Today, many times that in both. Hey Germany is fantastic if you grew up in Soviet Russia and you feel no connection to Israel (where over one million Jews went from 1989 through 1992). I hear Poland is a beautiful country too.

I've never been to Poland, but another tale I heard was from someone who led a group on a March of the Living in 1996. Whatever your thoughts on such a program, her tale was interesting. The flea markets in every town were loaded with plundered Judaica. But the instant the sellers found out that the prospective buyers were Jews, they refused to sell. Every single time. I have a lot of respect for Poles, in spite of their Jew hatred, who were at the forefront of resistance to their post-war Soviet masters and have likewise resisted much of the insane liberalism pushed on them since then, but my impression is that they really did imbibe it with their mothers' milk as infants.

This is all fine. Poland for the Poles, Israel for the Jews, etc, and we should all be more mindful of such of view.

Blogger Bosefus January 04, 2015 5:57 AM  

Loosen up...give it a break.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB5xnjeRWyI

then smoke your cigar...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=madkws6LgpI

Or beat your bongos like some chimpanzee...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qghrsBfSbgk

Blogger Mindstorm January 04, 2015 7:00 AM  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakub_Berman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilary_Minc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boles%C5%82aw_Bierut#Death (the deaths of other two were less... eventful)

http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministerstwo_Bezpiecze%C5%84stwa_Publicznego#.C5.BBydzi_w_Ministerstwie_Bezpiecze.C5.84stwa_Publicznego - no English source now, but given numbers are still decipherable. As Volksdeutsche did earlier,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volksdeutsche#Collaboration_with_the_Nazis
then the most opportunistic Jews aided and abetted Soviet-orchestrated power grab by 'revolutionist' elements later. Call it by the proper name - resentment - not hate. Would you claim that more Jews died in the Polish pogroms than the Poles who died for helping Jews evade Holocaust?

If you subvert the rule of law, as his testimony was unambiguous to state,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B3zef_%C5%9Awiat%C5%82o
, what you get is the mob rule. Mobs both pro- and antisemitic.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus January 04, 2015 7:01 AM  

Some missing pieces from the Jewish version of the relationship between Jews and Poles:

1. The Jewish version focuses exclusively on Polish hatred of Jews. Jewish hostility to Poles was equally or more significant, because of Jewish power, influence and demographic growth.

2. The Jewish version neglects any reason why Poles would have grown hostile to Jews, other than a vague implication that Poles are reasonless beasts who imbibe antisemitism with their mothers' milk. Poles turned against Jews under the lash of harsh exploitation. Not only were Jews highly exploitive (under a limited-term system that encouraged Jews to strip the land bare and take the peasant's last mouthful before someone else got the same area to exploit) and not only were they politically powerful (able to block the passage of a law that would have said it was no longer death to disobey a Jew), but there were more and more of them in relation to Poles (on the order of five times the population growth of Poles), so that even the same level of per-Jew exploitation had swiftly-increasing consequences for the exploited Poles. (Kevin MacDonald has discussed this thoroughly in a variety of documents, and if it was wrong Jewish academics would have trumpeted the errors. Also, Esau's Tears: Modern Anti-Semitism and the Rise of the Jews, by Albert S. Lindemann, is useful reading.)

3. The Jewish version is about the Holocaust. Missing is what the Poles themselves suffered, including from Communists - and Communism was a disproportionately Jewish movement.

4. The Jewish version has Poles acting with continued reasonless aggression after the war. The missing bit is that Poles had every reason to be terrified of Jews regaining power in post-war Poland, given continuing Jewish aggression, even intensified Jewish xenophobic hatred, and the recent history of Jewish anti-white slaughters in Eastern Europe.

In sum, the Jewish narrative is one of innocent, harmless Jewish victimhood; and reasonless white aggression and hatred. (Though somehow it's the Jews, over and over, that move in on whites' territory and exploit, corrupt and otherwise harm them.)

The Jewish narrative is so partial and biased as to be false. It's also a means of exploitation, including crude financial exploitation, and a means of guilting whites to death. This including using the Holocaust card to make it taboo for whites to refuse fatal levels of non-white mass immigration.

That is highly relevant to what's happening in Europe today. It's also characteristic of Jewish aggressiveness.

Blogger Mindstorm January 04, 2015 8:01 AM  

Shimson, so where were these Jews earlier? It's now more fashionable to claim Jewish origins than before, that's why.

Anonymous Joe January 04, 2015 8:13 AM  

Shimson, you did read the article about Kielce and you did see that it was a Communist instigated affair did you? Hence I told you that Poles themselves could not have perpetrated such, these were all Communist actions designed to blame the "Reactionaries" and nationalists and discredit them.

Well provide evidence of Polish genocide of Jews. How many hundreds of thousands of Jews did Poles murder? Polish researcher Leszek Zembrowski has been refuting claim after claim made by Communists and their sympathisers by going back to original Communist era archival materials.

Please also provide evidence of how Poles collaborated with the Germans in murdering all those Jews. You do know that the penalties for harbouring of Jews were more harsh in Poland than in Western Europe and Poles themselves for the most part were to be exterminated? Likewise you do know that 3 million Polish Christians died in WW2, these were mostly civilians. And you do know about the "Volksdeutches" do you?

The flea markets in every town were loaded....? Did she visit every town? And what could these peasants do with these goods? You do know that Poland was not a free country? And sorry, If I don't trust this sort of testimony considering the amount of lies out there.

Poland did not only shelter Jews in one century but for centuries. Even Pilsudski was very pro-Jewish.

What's also interesting is to note that for many Jews it's always the "Nazis" who are the bad guys, but Poles, well that's said with no qualifier. They're just Poles who are evil Jew haters, but the Germans, oh no, it's those mythical Nazis who sprang up from nowhere and then disappeared. :)

Shimson I'd suggest you drop the prejudices you have for Poles and try to read history from a variety of sources to get an objective view of the world, and not just that which supports your own biases. :)

Take care

Blogger Mindstorm January 04, 2015 8:20 AM  

Titus, I don't endorse your BS. Major players were Soviets, not Jews.

Blogger Mindstorm January 04, 2015 8:25 AM  

If it were differently, then they wouldn't be so eager to flee the wonders of communism. : )

Anonymous Michael January 04, 2015 8:31 AM  

Mindstorm, just who do you think comprised 80% or more of the Soviets? What do you really think, that most of Russia and its satellites just suddenly popped a screw and decided that they wanted to mass genocide themselves? By the way, the majority of the Judaic-led Bolsheviks were immigrants from none other than (wait for it) Poland.

Blogger Mindstorm January 04, 2015 9:07 AM  

A bold claim, Michael. Secular Jews are genetically still Jews. That would be provable now.

Blogger Shimshon January 04, 2015 9:10 AM  

Look, my point, like Vox's point, is that Europe will react, and react viciously and violently to the unwanted invaders.

I know history is far more nuanced than a few clever soundbites. I also know there are more perspectives than just mine. You're arguing with a chimera, as I wasn't really looking to argue or debate. There were many good and bad times for Jews in many places in Europe. My understanding is the early Jewish history of Poland was comparatively excellent. By the 20th century, Jews were around 10% of the population and the ethnic Poles did not want us around anymore, even if they didn't want to systematically exterminate us.

The post-war Polish reaction is not exactly hidden, even if not well known.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Jewish_violence_in_Poland,_1944%E2%80%9346

How's that for a more general look at that specific period of history (still, a short article that condenses a lot of sources)? The fact is, Jews were free to leave (and conversely, free to stay), and they left, in droves. Considering the massive population shifts and ethnic cleansing and political changes, it would be really hard to know in sufficient detail what went down and when. There were pogroms, not a holocaust.

Please spare me the inquisition on my statements and recollections. I thought the story of the Judaica was interesting. It's certainly anecdotal, but telling, that every attempt to purchase said items, wherever they went (a few different towns, probably, near Auschwitz and other camps), was rebuffed. That's all. Also, it was 1996. Was it really not a sufficiently "free country then" (and what does that even mean with regards to flea market merchants)?

Do you feel the need to equate Jewish and Gentile suffering? As if my omitting that portion of WWII leaves a hole in your heart? Yes, a LOT of Poles died. A lot of Germans died after the war, in the process of being expelled by Poland, etc, even if they were guilty of nothing other than being German in the wrong time and place.

More recently, and NOT in Poland, but rather in France, in 2014, over 1% of the Jewish population left for Israel (some number also probably went to the US). A huge shift after staying put for decades, with the number likely to be at least matched in 2015. French Jews of 2014, like Polish Jews post-war, are not complete idiots. Best to get out before the real fighting between the Europeans and the Muslims gets started in earnest. I agree with Vox on this. It's coming, and given the huge numbers of Muslims involved, it will be bloody.

"That is highly relevant to what's happening in Europe today. It's also characteristic of Jewish aggressiveness."

Jews leaving Europe is aggressive. I suppose you prefer my coreligionists stick around?

Blogger Mindstorm January 04, 2015 9:24 AM  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohen#Kohen_genetic_testing - see? At least one lineage is already known.

Anonymous Michael January 04, 2015 9:34 AM  

Mindstorm, "A bold claim, Michael. Secular Jews are genetically still Jews. That would be provable now."

It's not a "bold claim," it's the truth. As a matter of fact, when the Soviets occupied eastern Poland in 1939, Jews living in Poland joined the communist revolution and even helped deport Poles to Siberia.

To this day, we're browbeat day and night about what supposedly evil racists we are just for being white and wanting to live in peace in our own nations.

Blogger Mindstorm January 04, 2015 9:34 AM  

Jews in Poland are not especially devout. Are you sure, Shimson, that every menorah presented for sale was plundered and not traded for food?

Anonymous Joe January 04, 2015 9:35 AM  

"Please spare me the inquisition on my statements and recollections. I thought the story of the Judaica was interesting. It's certainly anecdotal, but telling, that every attempt to purchase said items, wherever they went (a few different towns, probably, near Auschwitz and other camps), was rebuffed. That's all. Also, it was 1996. Was it really not a sufficiently "free country then" (and what does that even mean with regards to flea market merchants)?"

Please spare me your accusations of wholesale Polish hatred of Jews and active collaboration with the German occupiers who had no qualms about murdering tens of thousands of Polish women and children at a time. Come back to me when Jewish people do the same for others at the same risk to their own lives (and the lives of their children) and we'll compare the situations. Show me where Jews hide Palestinians and if found out face summary execution of the entire family? And yet Poles were supposed to sacrifice their children en masse for Jews-- is that something you'd do yourself? Never mind that Poland offered fine military resistance and dragged the Western allies into the war, something which led to final liberation of Western Europe.

Yes, I misread 1996 as 1966. And yes there will be unhappiness in response to decades of lies and anti-Polish commentary (labeling the NSZ as anti-Semitic, the same people who liberated Jewish women from German death camps), never mind Commie propaganda people have been following for decades. Never mind that so many still would vote for the SLD and so on. Besides who sold what and how? And now Poland even funded a Jewish museum in Warsaw more expensive than the one devoted to the Warsaw Uprising (the Gentile one) itself.

And you living in the free West you're hardly well informed yourself. :)

Blogger Mindstorm January 04, 2015 9:36 AM  

Shimshon

Blogger Mindstorm January 04, 2015 9:43 AM  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunger_Plan - that would make it likely, would you agree?

Anonymous Joe January 04, 2015 9:56 AM  

"It's not a "bold claim," it's the truth. As a matter of fact, when the Soviets occupied eastern Poland in 1939, Jews living in Poland joined the communist revolution and even helped deport Poles to Siberia."

Soviet backed Communist infiltration in the East and acts of violence against Polish authorities and intelligentsia there predate the Soviet aggression in 1939.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus January 04, 2015 10:04 AM  

Michael: "To this day, we're browbeat day and night about what supposedly evil racists we are just for being white and wanting to live in peace in our own nations."

This, exactly.

Blogger Shimshon January 04, 2015 10:05 AM  

Mindstorm, I grew up in a far from observant home. We still had Judaica, and not just menorahs. Plus, pre-war Polish Jewry, while far from 100% observant, was vastly more so than post-war American Jewry.

Anonymous Michael January 04, 2015 10:06 AM  

Ironically, the Soviets instituted a similar policy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prodrazvyorstka

In the 1930's, the Soviets began running gulags, almost exclusively Jewish-controlled, which forced millions of Russians to essentially live as slaves for the state. Over a million perished under this brutal system.

Anonymous Michael January 04, 2015 10:11 AM  

Joe, "Soviet backed Communist infiltration in the East and acts of violence against Polish authorities and intelligentsia there predate the Soviet aggression in 1939."

I won't dispute that. Indeed, the reason for the huge influx of Jews relocating from Poland to Russia was precisely due to the Judaic-Marxism takeover of the latter.

Blogger Shimshon January 04, 2015 10:21 AM  

Joe, I cannot help it if Poland chose to spend ridiculous amounts of money on Jewish death memorials. Believe me, I, and many others like me, are tired of such, and could think of many more useful things to spend the money on (or not, and just return it to the people). You've picked the wrong guy to gripe about them.

It's not hard to show how Jews treat non-Jews in Israel who side with us. The Druze in particular serve, and serve bravely, defending Israel from our enemies. They are proud of their service and their alliance with us, and I've only encountered statements of respect and admiration (along with financial support for those gave their lives) by Jews for them. I was just reading an article the other day about Arabs Christians enlisting in the IDF. You might have heard that Christians are persecuted and even massacred in Arab countries.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/11321651/Meet-the-Arab-Christians-who-want-to-fight-for-Israel.html

“I would rather be a second-class citizen under a Jewish state than a first-class citizen in an Arab state."

Believe me, second class status here, while likely true to a certain degree, is indeed preferable to "first class" status in ANY Arab country.

As far as Palestinians facing "summary execution" by Israel, besides being wildly off-topic, this sounds just a little off the mark.

Blogger Shimshon January 04, 2015 10:40 AM  

Speaking of Christian Arabs, and more relevant to the topic...

Vox, any insight as to the their numbers in Europe compared to their Muslim...compatriots? As well as their level of integration, etc? All I ever read about is Muslim this and Muslim that vis a vis Europe. Given the huge amount persecution they face, something you have noted on occasion, I would imagine they are also represented to some degree.

Anonymous Michael January 04, 2015 10:46 AM  

Shimshon, "It's not hard to show how Jews treat non-Jews in Israel who side with us. The Druze in particular serve, and serve bravely, defending Israel from our enemies. They are proud of their service and their alliance with us, and I've only encountered statements of respect and admiration (along with financial support for those gave their lives) by Jews for them."

Any nation-state would openly profess gratitude if a foreign people stepped up to sacrifice their lives in their stead. Now then, show me a nation-state besides Israel where the Jews have formed a militia-alliance to sacrifice their lives in order to protect...

"I was just reading an article the other day about Arabs Christians enlisting in the IDF. You might have heard that Christians are persecuted and even massacred in Arab countries."

It's no secret that Christians have lived in Syria under the rule of Bashir Al-Assad in relative harmony with their Muslim neighbors, so the Western alliance (i.e. the US, Saudi and Israeli governments) sent their secular ISIS mercenaries in to do their dirty work. The irony being that the Christian Arabs you speak of are unwittingly fighting for one of the states responsible for helping drive their brothers and sisters in faith into exile and death. Simply put, what group do you think would take the reigns if Assad were overthrown?

"Believe me, second class status here, while likely true to a certain degree, is indeed preferable to "first class" status in ANY Arab country."

That's nothing to brag about.

Anonymous Joe January 04, 2015 11:09 AM  

Shimson come back to me when Jews under penalty of instant death of them and their entire families choose to hide and protect non-Jews. Include also lack of food and supplies via strict rationing.

Also why is it Shimson that a notable director/producer like Spielberg chose a Nazi German like Schindler when he could have chosen a righteous person like Witold Pilecki. You know the guy who helped compile this reportwhich was largely ignored in the West. Meanwhile Polish kids are shown mocking Jewish transportees to the death camps in this Oscar awarded film.

Blogger Shimshon January 04, 2015 11:12 AM  

Michael, you are free to read about the contribution (such as it is) of Jews on every side of WWI. Hundreds of thousands fought and died. German Jews in particular (oh the irony) intensely loved German culture and were extremely patriotic.

Assad was a secularist pan-national Arab from the hated (and considered heretical by the Sunnis he lived among) Alawite sect. His regime is also, mostly, history, as it is barely a rump state (though putting up a good fight). The same could be said about Iraq under Hussein. Please, stick to TODAY. I don't doubt Israel has some role in the rise of IS, though I doubt it is nearly as extensive or even intentional as the US. Hell, I'm a US citizen too. Might as well assign double blame to me for their rise.

"That's nothing to brag about." Who's bragging? It's a purely pragmatic attitude, expressed by Christian Arabs. In Israel, Christians have relative freedom and peace and prosperity. They don't have any of that in Arab lands TODAY.

Anonymous Joe January 04, 2015 11:20 AM  

Wikipedia on Syria:

Nowadays, Damascus still contains a sizeable proportion of Christians, with churches all over the city, but particularly in the district of Bab Touma (The Gate of Thomas in Aramaic and Arabic). Masses are held every Sunday and civil servants are given Sunday mornings off to allow them to attend church, even though Sunday is a working day in Syria. Schools in Christian-dominated districts have Saturday and Sunday as the weekend, while the official Syrian weekend falls on Friday and Saturday.

Wikipedia on Jordan:

Christians are well integrated in the Jordanian society and have a high level of freedom, though they are not free to evangelize Muslims.[5] They form a significant part of the kingdom's political and economic elite. Christians enjoy high economic and social opportunities in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan compared to the position of some, but not all, of their co-religionists in the rest of the Middle East. Christians are allotted 9 out of a total of 110 seats in the Jordanian parliament,[6] and also hold important ministerial portfolios, ambassadorial appointments, and positions of high military rank.

Jordanian Christians are allowed by the public and private sectors to leave their work to attend mass on Sundays. All Christian religious ceremonies are publicly celebrated in Jordan. Christians have established good relations with the royal family and the various Jordanian government officials, and they have their own ecclesiastical courts for matters of personal status.

Blogger Shimshon January 04, 2015 11:22 AM  

Sure sounds like some people have a serious bone to pick. Say one little thing, somewhat on topic, and critics come out of the woodwork, not to engage in topical debate, but to...DISQUALIFY! Get back to the topic, please.

Anonymous Michael January 04, 2015 11:35 AM  

Shimshon, "Michael, you are free to read about the contribution (such as it is) of Jews on every side of WWI. Hundreds of thousands fought and died. German Jews in particular (oh the irony) intensely loved German culture and were extremely patriotic."

Yeah, they loved Germany so much that they destroyed its economy, gobbling up property, enterprise and valuables at bargain bin prices while the German people were left in shambles, deprived of self-dignity. This by-and-large is what paved the way for Hitler's ascent to power.

"Assad was a secularist pan-national Arab from the hated (and considered heretical by the Sunnis he lived among) Alawite sect. His regime is also, mostly, history, as it is barely a rump state (though putting up a good fight). The same could be said about Iraq under Hussein. Please, stick to TODAY. I don't doubt Israel has some role in the rise of IS, though I doubt it is nearly as extensive or even intentional as the US. Hell, I'm a US citizen too. Might as well assign double blame to me for their rise."

The issue with Syria and Iraq is no less relevant today than it was yesterday. Christians and Muslims were at peace in Syria, up until the Saudis wanted to run their stupid pipeline through their land and Assad wouldn't allow it, hence the sudden appearance of ISIS militants (or as our MSM referred to them, "freedom fighters"). This uprising, if you can call it that, was and is political from top to bottom; the goal is to unseat Assad and drive the Christians out of the Middle East. Nowhere did I blame you; the blame is squarely upon the state-heads responsible for funding, supplying and granting diplomatic cover to the insurgents.

"Who's bragging? It's a purely pragmatic attitude, expressed by Christian Arabs. In Israel, Christians have relative freedom and peace and prosperity. They don't have any of that in Arab lands TODAY."

Define "relative freedom." Also, perhaps you can explain why we're expected to extend special privilege status, at the expense of our own rights and heritage, to everyone whom the Marxists define as "oppressed minority."

Anonymous Joe January 04, 2015 11:55 AM  

" not to engage in topical debate, but to...DISQUALIFY! "

Nobody is disqualifying you. I'm just asking you not to engage in special pleading and judge Poles by a different standard to other people, especially Israelis. To say Poles had to collaborate with the "Nazis" all the while claiming to know little about the country or its history is quite silly. Anyway this is going off topic. Good day to you.

Blogger Shimshon January 04, 2015 1:02 PM  

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/189495

"Czech Politician: Walk Your Pet Pig Near a Mosque"

"Okaumura – born in Japan to a Japanese father and Moravian mother – was a successful businessman who took up politics in 2012, winning a seat in the Czech parliament. In the 2013 parliamentary elections his Dawn of Direct Democracy received 14 seats in the plenum. Okamura is called by liberals “the most dangerous man in Czech politics” for his views on Muslims.

"Okamura has been portrayed in Roma (gypsy) press as a denier of the Nazi mass murder of gypsies and has been accused of expressing sympathy with a Czech neo-Nazi party."

Gotta love those Japanese. Urging Christians to walk their pet dogs and pigs (how cute!) on public sidewalks in front of mosques...that's subversive! I bet if he was pure Japanese instead of a mix, he would bypass the pet-walking phase and go directly to beheading (or worse) Muslims.

Blogger Shimshon January 04, 2015 2:39 PM  

"Yeah, they loved Germany so much that they destroyed its economy..."

Is it that hard to accept my simple statement at face value? My perspective, and that of many Jews, was that German Jews did love German culture. "Berlin is our Jerusalem" was practically a mantra. I'm not going to dispute how the Germans (and others) saw the Jews. Doesn't change a thing. Sheesh. Same thing regarding Poles. It seems very tough for some people to accept that there are different views on the same subject.

Since I mentioned a Japanese man above...if you ask a typical Chinese about the Japanese, would it be so surprising if they respond with a general loathing of them, given their occupation of much of China and notorious brutality? But did you know many Jews have a soft spot for the Japanese nonetheless? Why? Because Japan, going against very strong pressure from their German allies, gave safe haven to (some) Jews fleeing Europe during the war.

This is not a dispute. You simply don't like my (admittedly personal and off the cuff) opinions, period. So far, you seem to me no different from SJWs who demand contrition over every perceived slight. Boo hoo.

Anonymous Michael January 04, 2015 3:23 PM  

I don't question that there were nationalistic Jews within Germany, but rather question your refusal to acknowledge the major influence, control and subversion from the central bankers and globalists which wrought the destruction of Germany's economy. Whatever those nationalistic Jews were doing there while all of this was going on, I don't know - perhaps you can respond.

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