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Monday, January 19, 2015

It's a start

Interesting to see the New York Times run an opinion piece written by the leader of France's Front National, Marine LePen:
These mistakes must also be called by their names. I will mention only three, but they are of crucial importance.

First, the dogma of the free movement of peoples and goods is so firmly entrenched among the leaders of the European Union that the very idea of border checks is deemed to be heretical. And yet, every year tons of weapons from the Balkans enter French territory unhindered and hundreds of jihadists move freely around Europe. Small surprise then that Amedy Coulibaly’s machine gun came through Belgium, as the Walloon media have reported, or that his partner Hayat Boumeddiene fled to Syria under the nose of law enforcement.

Second, the massive waves of immigration, both legal and clandestine, our country has experienced for decades have prevented the implementation of a proper assimilation policy. As Hugues Lagrange, a sociologist at the French National Center for Scientific Research (C.N.R.S.), has argued, culture has a major influence on the way immigrants relate to French society and its values, on issues such as the status of women and the separation of state and religious authority.

Without a policy restricting immigration, it becomes difficult, if not impossible, to fight against communalism and the rise of ways of life at odds with laïcité, France’s distinctive form of secularism, and other laws and values of the French Republic. An additional burden is mass unemployment, which is itself exacerbated by immigration.

Third, French foreign policy has wandered between Scylla and Charybdis in the last few years. Former President Nicolas Sarkozy’s intervention in Libya, President François Hollande’s support for some Syrian fundamentalists, alliances formed with rentier states that finance jihadist fighters, like Qatar and Saudi Arabia — all are mistakes that have plunged France into serious geopolitical incoherence from which it is struggling to extricate itself. Incidentally, Gerd Müller, Germany’s federal minister of economic cooperation and development, deserves praise for having the clear-sightedness, like the Front National, of accusing Qatar of supporting jihadists in Iraq.
It would appear that events in Paris have so frightened the editors of the New York Times that they're actually willing to countenance the discussion of immigration and Islamization. What LePen is suggesting is far from sufficient, obviously, but it is a start.

However, the fact that both the French and German governments have banned anti-Mahometan marches this week tends to indicate that some sort of democratic upheaval will be required before any serious action is taken.

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22 Comments:

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 19, 2015 9:19 AM  

"Conservatives" will have to stop running interference for the State's establishment and instead blame the State for this predicament. As of now the little people conservatives are fed a diet of endless essays on Islam to distract them from the enablers, and it has worked.

Thought experiment, the nobles of the Harvard, Yale and Princeton axis are liberated from oxygen requirements, how long before the guests are asked to catch the magic carpet ride back to their utopias?

Anonymous Steve January 19, 2015 9:26 AM  

Mr. Mantraman - Thought experiment, the nobles of the Harvard, Yale and Princeton axis are liberated from oxygen requirements, how long before the guests are asked to catch the magic carpet ride back to their utopias?

This seems horribly unfair.

How do you expect Saladin Ahmed to escape white supremacy on a magic carpet when his lazy eye hinders depth perception?

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey January 19, 2015 9:31 AM  

every year tons of weapons from the Balkans enter French territory unhindered and hundreds of jihadists move freely around Europe

It's essential that European Nationalists take advantage of this trade, in preparation for the coming conflicts.

OpenID simplytimothy January 19, 2015 9:34 AM  

Clearly separation of Church and State has failed; religion and faith are outdated, repressive, heteronormative, patriarchal superstitions that have no place in a modern, secular, tolerant and diverse society.

I expect to see that editorial headline soon.

Anonymous Alexander January 19, 2015 9:35 AM  

I think that when the time comes, France is simply going to turn the tables on the anti-blasphemy laws crowd and the holocaust denial card and simply pass a law along the lines that it is a criminal offense to deny the Nicene creed, or the Trinity or what have you.

Can't intellectually deny that a European state can imprison you for denying an established truth.

Can't intellectually deny restrictions on religious freedoms.

Can't intellectually deny the vastly undemocratic nature of the EU.

Not anti-semitic, not anti-Islam... you know, *per se*. As a bonus, it'll be a perpetual sword hanging over any left-wing Frenchman.

So that'll be France.

England's more tricky, because there is a larger tradition of free speech (I know that's a riot to think about these days, but there you have it). But I do wonder - if UKIP got in and reeeallly had a crack at the pedophilia charges, given how the English upper class moves I bet you could knock out a massive number of MPs across the board, large chunks of the BBC, the BoE, any number of troublesome upper crust, as many Oxbridge chaps as you care to take to the gallows, and the bloody Royal Opera if you were so inclined. Cull the local governments and police while you're at it as aiding and abetting.

Germany... well hell, Germany has a minimal tradition of giving two shits, and one can easily point out that any of this multi-cultural nonsense is illegitimate due to being rammed down the throat of a conquered nation that was under foreign occupation until the 1990s. The Germans won't much care for procedural niceties and will simply go about solving their problems with famed Prussian efficiency.

Once the big 3 are hard at work purging themselves of undesirables, southern Europe will happily join right in.

Anonymous Channeling from elsewhere January 19, 2015 9:44 AM  

I will just take this comment, stolen from an insigtful commenter on instap:

"Don't kid yourself. They allowed this because of the author. Because of who that is, the message is automatically disqualified if you're one of the bien-pensants for whose consumption this is intended. The game of the op-ed page is that the message is automatically associated with the messenger. But now they can say they published her. All voices, across the political spectrum, permitted in the NY Times, can't say they're biased, etc., and at the same time the message that Islamic fundamentalism might, on balance, have one or two less than positive consequences is discredited because of who says it.

Very clever, op-ed editor. "

Yup. Never underestimate the effort and care going into the nurturing of the Narrative.

Blogger JartStar January 19, 2015 9:45 AM  

Europe will fight an internal war before dealing with her external enemies. Same as always.

Anonymous Mike M. January 19, 2015 9:46 AM  

Remember that revolutions don't have to involve bloodshed. In 1908, the UK gutted the House of Lords as a counterweight to the House of Commons. No hangings, no upheaval...just a quite pointing out that if the Lords didn't see things the Commons' way, the Prime Minister would have to recommend the creation of new Lords. Enough of them to win.

Anonymous PA January 19, 2015 9:52 AM  

The real argument against immigration is identitarian: immigration is genetic oblivion.

Cultural arguments are very distant secondary reasons against it.

OpenID mattse001 January 19, 2015 9:58 AM  

Everything I've heard about LePen and the NF implies they are neo-Nazis, and yet this article seems to be the voice of reason. The NYT may have been trying to disqualify LePen simply by virtue of her reputation, as stated above, but I think they've made a grave mistake. There will be some portion of the audience who read her words and improves their view of the National Front. That wouldn't have happened without publishing her.

Anonymous Joe January 19, 2015 10:32 AM  

"every year tons of weapons from the Balkans enter French territory unhindered and hundreds of jihadists move freely around Europ"

France was pro or against the bombing of Serbia to heck, again? Le Pen was where...?

Anonymous karsten January 19, 2015 10:50 AM  

"Everything I've heard about LePen and the NF implies they are neo-Nazis, and yet this article seems to be the voice of reason."

It is precisely because LePen has at least a few elements of national socialism in her world-view that she is the voice of reason.

Anonymous zen0 January 19, 2015 11:18 AM  

@ VD

some sort of democratic upheaval will be required before any serious action is taken.


One of the elites in Germany rebelled and was pilloried:

Steve Sailer: Back in 2010 respected German economist and Social Democratic government administrator Thilo Sarrazin published what’s perhaps still the best-selling serious non-fiction book of this decade, Germany Abolishes Itself.

This analysis of German immigration policy has sold 1.5 million copies worldwide despite never being translated into English.....



Thilo Sarrazin on the Limits of Free Speech in Germany

Thilo Sarrazin on the PC culture and the engine generating it:

But it’s not a joke. These are the hidden axioms of the prevailing political mindset in Germany (and probably elsewhere) as I see them. Every item on the list has a high emotional value for those who believe in it.

The core of the problem is: Partly moral und partly ideological attitudes are taken at face value and mixed up with reality.

It is a permanent task, I am afraid, to sort that out.

Anonymous Big Bil January 19, 2015 11:40 AM  

PEGIDA should never have abandoned its march. By abandoning the march they have surrendered their streets to a psychotic death cult.

Their police have effectively confessed they cannot protect peaceful law-abiding Germans unless German men, women, and children stay inside and do not venture out.

It will take the blood of a few martyrs. If it was me at the head of PEGIDA, I would announce that Germans would not submit to Islamic terror threats, and challenge all the "peace-loving" Muslims to take responsibility for and control of their community, culture, and religion. For if they do not take responsibility and control, the deaths of any German folk will be on their (collective) heads ... and then march and be damned!

Delaying the inevitable Muslim slaughter of Germans by surrendering German streets to Muslim terrorists merely lets the Muslims gather their strength and slaughter more.

It is time. PEGIDA needs to lead. What Would Hitler Do? He would march, and the police be damned!

Anonymous Stilicho January 19, 2015 12:09 PM  

There was just enough anti-gun and pro-assimilation rhetoric in there for the NYT to publish it. Now they get to claim that they give due consideration to non-leftist views as well as claim that even that "far-right extremist" Marine Le Pen agrees with them on gun control and the joys of assimilation. Whether it's true is immaterial for their purposes.

Anonymous Dear France, You've Got A Friend January 19, 2015 1:10 PM  

Perhaps it is part of the massive diplomatic effort the US government has launched?

President Gen-X sent Secretary of State Aging Boomer to Paris to mend fences, and he brought along Aging Boomer Crooner along to sing to the French people.

What more need be said?

Anonymous Jack Amok January 19, 2015 1:30 PM  

I think that when the time comes, France is simply going to turn the tables on the anti-blasphemy laws crowd and the holocaust denial card and simply pass a law along the lines that it is a criminal offense to deny the Nicene creed, or the Trinity or what have you.

All the governmental and institutional over-reach will turn on the rabbits. They're like overly proud magicians summoning a demon they foolishly think they can control.

Blogger YIH January 19, 2015 1:54 PM  

Since Vox lifted from Sailer, I will too:
One stumbling block to better policy these days is the refusal to admit you were wrong. To advocate different policies tomorrow is seen as admitting that your ideological enemies were right yesterday. And that’s hard to do.

So here’s a simple suggestion to help public figures overcome their pride: don’t admit you were wrong in the past. (The past has passed. You and your descendants are going to have to live in the future.) Instead, attribute your change of mind about immigration policy to the very real phenomenon of diminishing marginal returns. …

So to shield your pride, just say: “I was in favor of massive immigration in the past when we needed more immigrants, but now we have enough immigrants, so I’m no longer in favor of it. “

Is that so hard to do?

In the past it may have been plausible that immigrants were necessary to bolster the labor force because 'western' economies were growing and did need more people.
Trouble is, with 'globalism' (outsourcing, downsizing, offshoring, ect) the need for added manpower simply no longer exists.
The west no longer needs more; farmhands, maids, fast food workers, factory workers.
So where does the surplus go? Welfare, crime (''the underground economy'') and yes, prisons.

Anonymous Discard January 19, 2015 5:25 PM  

YIH: I don't want the public figures to admit that they were wrong if it allows them to remain in power. That's called "two steps forward and one step back". Let them ride the tiger until it eats them.

Anonymous Anubis January 20, 2015 9:30 AM  

Is this an actuate translation or did the NYT edit it? I don't trust leftists with translations given how disingenuous they are in English.

Blogger Owen January 20, 2015 2:47 PM  

France was pro or against the bombing of Serbia to heck, again?

Yes.

During the ATO (Air Tasking Orders) briefs in HQ in Germany, the French were asked to leave the room and certain planes were deliberately mis-represented as other types in the ATO in the event it was "leaked."

Blogger Kirk Parker January 22, 2015 3:51 AM  

Owen, that's beyond fascinating. Got a link to a more detailed account?

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