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Sunday, January 11, 2015

Multiculturalism's last gasp

The march in Paris today is a pathetic and pointless globalist fart in the wind of the resurgent nationalism that will scour Europe in the next decade:
One million people were today preparing to march through the streets of Paris in tribute to the 17 victims of massacre in the city. British Prime Minister David Cameron was one of approximately 40 world leaders scheduled to take part in the solidarity march in the French capital. In a show of support for the French people, Mr Cameron was to stand alongside French President Francois Hollande in sympathy for the victims executed by terrorists....

Security services across the world have reportedly received intelligence that more terror attacks are ‘highly likely’, as a ring of steel was placed around the French capital for today’s march. There are fears that Al Qaeda and Islamic State-linked terror cells will be activated as the city prepares to host the rally this afternoon.

By mid-morning, approximately 2,000 police officers and 1,400 soldiers were deployed across Paris in an atmosphere described by one officer on the scene as ‘extremely tense’. French Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve said ‘exceptional measures’ were being taken to try and prevent further attacks, including deploying snipers on roofs.
This is nothing more than a futile demonstration meant to prop up the failing status quo, which is so fragile that a single jihadist could render it all moot in seconds today. None of this will end until the genie is again returned to the bottle, which is to say, until Islam has been forcibly expelled from the continent for the third time.

The multiculturalist position consists of lies stacked upon more lies. When Angela Merkel claims there is no place for anti-Muslim intolerance, she is attacking more than TWO-THIRDS of the German electorate that is not Muslim. In a November poll by the Bertelsmann Foundation, 61 percent of the German people said: "Islam has no place in the West".

61 percent is not an outlier. That is the mainstream position. That is the will of the people. That was before PEGIDA, before the Charlie Hebdo massacre, and before the Jewish deli murders. It is probably over 70 percent by now. What there is no place for is traitorous, anti-democratic "leaders" like Merkel, Hollande, Cameron, and the other anti-nationalists who are marching in Paris today.

Islam is not compatible with the West. Islam is literally at war with the West, which is part of the Dar al-Harb, "the House of War". As Mizanur Rahman has declared, Britain is the enemy of Islam. So is France. So is Germany. So is Italy. So is the United States of America. Samuel Huntington warned of this coming great clash of civilizations back in 1993. Enoch Powell warned of the rivers of blood that would flow if mass immigration from non-European countries was permitted back in 1968.

That long-predicted day has finally arrived. If the situation is not adequately addressed in the next decade, then the Rotherhams and Parises will eventually become Peshawars and Bagas. Now the victims of Islam in the West are numbered in double-digits, eventually they will be numbered in the hundreds and the thousands, if the Reconquista 2.0 does not begin sooner rather than later.

Sooner or later, it will begin. All of this could have been easily prevented, but the Left preached its lies of open borders and immigration and tolerance and diversity, and the people of the West stupidly believed them. Some fools still believe them, although most who claim to do so primarily cling to them out of fear and desperate hope against hope. But prevention is no longer an option. The choice is now between Charlie Hebdo and Charlie Martel.

As for those who claim that we cannot hold all Muslims responsible for the actions of their military wing, I will remind them that the free people of the West had absolutely no problem holding all Germans responsible for the actions of a few National Socialists. I note that the French Prime Minister, Manuel Valls, has already declared that France is at war with "radical Islam", even though the vast majority of radical Muslims did not kill anyone in Paris this week.

The fact is that Islam is already at war with the West, regardless of what its "moderate" Fifth Columnists falsely claim. It has always been at war with the West, it simply hasn't always had the ability to effectively wage that war. But the West gave it that ability and now the people of the West are paying the price through fear, crime, taxes, the loss of liberty, and blood.
“This bloodbath proves that those who laughed at or ignored the fears of so many people about a looming danger of Islamism were wrong,” said Alexander Gauland, a regional leader of AfD, which has its roots in the euro crisis and is currently riding at 25% in nationwide polls, on the day of the Charlie Hebdo attacks. “This gives new weight to Pegida demands.”

In France the leader of the far-right Front National, Marine Le Pen, went further. “We must be in a position to respond to the war that has been declared by Islamist fundamentalism,” she said after a meeting on Friday of party leaders called at the Élysée Palace by the president, François Hollande.

“I regret that word has not been uttered by [Hollande] nor other politicians. The first thing when one is fighting a war is to be able to know what we’re fighting. We’re fighting an ideology, Islamist fundamentalism. Not to say it is a proof of weakness.”

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144 Comments:

Anonymous Salt January 11, 2015 8:09 AM  

Looks like the Germans may get to enjoy some of the action too.

Anonymous Toby Temple January 11, 2015 8:21 AM  

I hope they get booed and Parisians throw tomatoes at them.

Anonymous zen0 January 11, 2015 8:26 AM  

> Looks like the Germans may get to enjoy some of the action too.


Looks like Tommy Hass has come out of the closet.

Anonymous Old Man in a Villa January 11, 2015 8:29 AM  

Had the neighbors over for dinner last night, she is a Harvard educated stay at home mom. She denied emphatically that multiculturalism is a problem when this came up and that she would be more than happy to have her sons passed over in college admissions in order to place a lesser qualified applicant in their place based on race "for the good of society".

She also said that gamer gate was about people harrassing women.

So, no, I don't see the public changing its POV any time soon about any of these things.

Anonymous Salt January 11, 2015 8:37 AM  

OMiaV, did you ask her why she hates her sons?

Anonymous PA January 11, 2015 8:39 AM  

she would be more than happy to have her sons passed over in college admissions

What's the adage... watch what women do, not what they say. How white is her neighborhood?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 11, 2015 8:43 AM  

My guess is that this turns into a left wing campaign rally much like the clown show in Minnesota a few years back when Wellstone became a good leftist and they tried to hold a funeral service which was taken over by the nuts. Hopefully they boo Netanyahu and cheer Abbas when he gives his "we come in peace" speech, just for entertainment purposes only.

As for real French conservatives my advice go apply for a rifle permit and get yourself a Scout type rifle, screw these rallies which are meant to prop up the legitimacy of the multi-cult state.

Anonymous JACIII January 11, 2015 8:50 AM  

OMV,
The indoctrination at the country's leading university is strong. Those attending are being taught the ways of those gatekeeping the halls of power. She will not abandon them until it becomes a hope beyond hope that they are no longer part of the "Open Sesame" obeisance she has been given to allow her to (she perceives) navigate the gatekeepers to claim the privileges her harvard degree grants her. She and those like her will ride what they perceive as the strong horse to the bitter end and just beyond it. She will then abandon said horse and claim she never really believed any of that crap.

Anonymous hygate January 11, 2015 8:54 AM  

@OMiaV

The next time you see her ask her how she feels about her son being accused of rape and denied due process.

Anonymous hygate January 11, 2015 8:57 AM  

She will then abandon said horse and claim she never really believed any of that crap.

And she might even be telling the truth. Social conformity is a strong instinct.

Anonymous hygate January 11, 2015 8:59 AM  

Anyway, what PA said. Is she sending her kid(s) to an inner-city school so that they can enjoy the benefits of diversity and the vibrant youths can benefit from the example they set concerning studying?

Wouldn't that be for the good of society also?

Anonymous zen0 January 11, 2015 9:04 AM  

she would be more than happy to have her sons passed over in college admissions in order to place a lesser qualified applicant in their place based on race "for the good of society".

Remember, Old Man, SJWs always lie. Always.

Anonymous VD January 11, 2015 9:04 AM  

If you want to communicate with people like that, you have to speak to their emotions. You have to tell her "you're going to die because of your misguided beliefs". They only respond to rhetoric; you can't use dialectic. When she claims it's not true, just tell her "you can think whatever you want, but you're going to die, murdered by violent jihadists, just like the Charlie Hebdo intellectuals."

It's ridiculous, but it works. Just keep repeating it and watch them gradually give in. It's bizarre, but effective for those limited to rhetoric. They can't stand to hear things like "you're going to die" or "everyone will hate you". It terrifies them on some core level. They truly think they are protected because they have a degree from Harvard or whatever, so you can easily puncture that by ridiculing the notion. Which is, after all, absurd.

There is an episode of Sex in the City where Mikhail Baryshnikov keeps telling Sarah Jessica Parker that her friend might die. She can't take the simple fact of the possibility, merely hearing it voiced freaks her out. That's the reaction you can easily trigger.

Anonymous Stingray January 11, 2015 9:11 AM  

It's like the paraders are setting themselves up as happy targets. The irony being, if there is more bloodshed, God forbid, they are directly helping not only the jihadists but the nationalists.

OpenID cailcorishev January 11, 2015 9:13 AM  

When Angela Merkel claims there is no place for anti-Muslim intolerance

It's time for Christians to start taking offense at this and respond accordingly. All this means is: "We know you Christians are just itching to kill a bunch of Muslims, and you barely need an excuse, so don't you dare. In fact, we're not even going to wait for one of you to act; we're just going to go ahead and talk as if it's a given."

In truth, there's been no "anti-Muslim intolerance" to speak of after any of these attacks over the last few decades. There hasn't even been as much random fringe stuff as you'd expect from populations of millions of people with a fair number of crazies just looking for something attention-getting to do.

I'm tired of NFL players with their painful sighs, accusing me of abetting domestic abuse. I'm tired of being told that I'm fated to be racist because my parents are white. And I'm tired of, every time a Muslim kills an innocent person in the name of Islam, being told to stop being intolerant.

To Hell with them, and everyone who tells us up is down.

Anonymous Old Man in a Villa January 11, 2015 9:14 AM  

Frankly I enjoy wayching her pontificate about the joys of diversity from the safety of her 99% white community while sipping red wine and snacking on brie. I taught her boys how to shoot an AR 15 this past summer and they became quite good at it. I found that to be satisfactory response to her progressive point of view.

Anonymous VD January 11, 2015 9:23 AM  

I taught her boys how to shoot an AR 15 this past summer and they became quite good at it. I found that to be satisfactory response to her progressive point of view.

An excellent response. Ignore her and teach them. They will know she's ridiculous much better than you do. Just give them the rational alternative.

Anonymous TLM January 11, 2015 9:23 AM  

Why were you watching Sex in the City?

Anonymous Michael January 11, 2015 9:23 AM  

Please, they make it out to seem as though they're trying to 'educate' their leaders when the reality is they've known all along and did it anyway.

Anonymous Steve January 11, 2015 9:32 AM  

Vox - If the Jihadiwaddies were smart, they'd back off now and let Europe's multiculturalist fifth column cover for them.

Of course, if they were smart they wouldn't be murdering people to defend the honour of a man who pretended to fly to the moon on a magic horse and in real life molested a 9 year old.

So they won't back off. Thousands more will be returning from Syria in the not too distant future. Political ruin and disgrace awaits the likes of Merkel, as their feeble words prove hollow and twisted in the face of bloody reality.

So far, so predictable.

But I am surprised to read that you watched Sex In The City.

Anonymous Salt January 11, 2015 9:34 AM  

Looks like Tommy Hass has come out of the closet.

A friend told me a German guy he knows said, "Michael, we Germans, when we hear the drums, we all get up and march."

Anonymous VD January 11, 2015 9:36 AM  

Why were you watching Sex in the City?

If you have to ask, you're probably a male virgin.

Anonymous Jack Amok January 11, 2015 9:38 AM  

Had the neighbors over for dinner last night, she is a Harvard educated stay at home mom. She denied emphatically that multiculturalism is a problem when this came up and that she would be more than happy to have her sons passed over in college admissions in order to place a lesser qualified applicant in their place based on race "for the good of society".

I notice the conspicuous abscence of a father from the story.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 11, 2015 9:39 AM  

Vox is %100 correct, the left has a rhetorical shell but beneath that hard shell is a very soft pliable core. Decades of conservative logic has been mostly a waste since conservatives think that the left is just like them, logical beings, just because they so doesn't mean they are.

If I might add one thing is that you should try and heap the notion of responsibility upon them, they always crumble, they're women after all even if they have male genatalia. I find the personal pronoun "you" quite handy for that purpose.

Anonymous Michael January 11, 2015 9:40 AM  

Steve, "Of course, if they were smart they wouldn't be murdering people to defend the honour of a man who pretended to fly to the moon on a magic horse and in real life molested a 9 year old."

Speaking of sexual abuse, I just read this interesting article last night about how Terrance Bean, founder of the Orwellian-named Human Rights Campaign (which promotes the LGBT agenda and attacks anyone who speaks out against it), was arrested for sodomizing a 15-year-old boy. Recently, the HRC put together a fundraiser and some of the notable corporate sponsors listed were Liberty Mutual Insurance, Citizens Bank, CVS, and Staples.

http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen2/14d/hrc-banquet/update_112114.html

Anonymous Steve January 11, 2015 9:40 AM  

Old Man in a Villa - in my experience, the opinions of folks like your overeducated lady friend turn on a sixpence as soon as those they regard as authority figures (media, political, academic) tell them to.

You can put the wind up them with rhetoric, but I'm not sure it matters much one way or the other. Camp followers gonna follow.

Blogger YIH January 11, 2015 9:42 AM  

On the hourly news update on the radio I got to hear (female voice): ''I may disagree with what you say but I'll defend with my life your right to say it''.
I went ''bullshit bitch, no you won't, if you meant what you said, you'd be the first to man the guillotine for those who are allowing the moslims to stay and letting more come''!
This whole march in Paris is not unlike those ''march against violence'' scenes that happen periodically in US cities, often with the niggers shooting before, during and after (and sometimes at) the protest march.

Anonymous Michael January 11, 2015 9:42 AM  

VD, "If you have to ask, you're probably a male virgin."

So what are you saying, that only true men watch smut television?

Anonymous paradox January 11, 2015 9:50 AM  

If these Moozlems were intelligent, they would have attacked the million cultural Marxist march. France is lucky to be dealing with idiots.

Anonymous VD January 11, 2015 9:51 AM  

So what are you saying, that only true men watch smut television?

Get a girlfriend, Michael. And you're OT. I'm not even remotely interested in your opinion of what television shows I have or have not watched. Drop it.

Anonymous Cryan Ryan January 11, 2015 10:01 AM  

Vox's advice toward a rhetorical approach has worked well for me, within the family. He's right that dialectic does not work. One might add - it also seems to stimulate diarrhea of the mouth in women.

And we all know the joys of a know-it-all woman blathering on, answering questions that aren't asked, explaining things that aren't true, and doing so with a furrowed brow and a raised voice.

Turning your back to them after you've briefly stated your opinion is an excellent coup de grace.

Blogger YIH January 11, 2015 10:02 AM  

and before the Jewish deli murders
Hey at least they have somewhere to flee to.
What about, you know, the French? Eh, maybe Quebec.
/sarc

Anonymous VD January 11, 2015 10:03 AM  

You asked a stupid and irrelevant question about an outdated American television show on a thread about multiculturalism and Islam in Europe, Michael. I dignified it with precisely the sort of answer your question merited. Now, for the second time, drop it.

If you can't keep your comments on topic, you'll be spammed.

Anonymous VD January 11, 2015 10:12 AM  

And now you're spammed, Michael. Free speech means you have the right to speak freely. It does not mean that you have the right to speak freely using my microphone.

Get your own mike.

Blogger pyrrhus January 11, 2015 10:14 AM  

I heard that the 4th suspect has escaped to Syria...crack police work no doubt.....Got to wonder whether the French, who have been prosecuting anyone who criticizes or even just makes fun of Islam, Jews, etc, doesn't completely deserve this mess.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 11, 2015 10:14 AM  

Anyone watch that "march?" And was it anything more than a campaign rally for the establishment? It seems to me that multi-culturalism is self extinguishing or delegitimizing since it really can't placate anyone except a few lucky job holders. Here is a campaign rally where the main speeches are the usual "we come in peace", but who is buying that nonsense anymore?

IMO Islam is the stone that will grind the left to powder to blow away in the wind. What are the SJWs going to do, ask the muslims to become more feminine, please.

Anonymous ne pas subir January 11, 2015 10:25 AM  

I'm French. I didn't go to the parade of traitors and war criminals, but I was struck to see so many whites in Paris today.
If you want less diversity in your city, organizing a liberal demo against terrorism is a pretty good idea.

Blogger Ron January 11, 2015 10:28 AM  

@VD

It's ridiculous, but it works. Just keep repeating it and watch them gradually give in. It's bizarre, but effective for those limited to rhetoric. They can't stand to hear things like "you're going to die" or "everyone will hate you". It terrifies them on some core level. They truly think they are protected because they have a degree from Harvard or whatever, so you can easily puncture that by ridiculing the notion. Which is, after all, absurd.


No it's actually not ridiculous at all, based on much of what you've written, I see that there is the warrior class and then there is Everyone Else. The warrior class (not necessarily limited to or even composed of the soldier class) is composed of those who have decided to take responsibility for the decision making regarding the situation. Everyone Else are subsequently grateful to the warrior class for taking responsibility for them.

When you reassert reality via rhetoric, you are telling a member of the EE class that you are taking responsibility for the situation. Hence they "cave in". They are actually not caving in, because they never opposed you in the first place, because no one in the EE class wants to take responsibility for a single fucking thing in this life (compassionate laughter). What they are doing is testing you (in their limited responsibility-free way) to see if you are "for real" or are simply another member of the EE class spouting some meme.

It's obviously more complicated than that. But I am trying to break down the survival mechanism involved.

Blogger JDC January 11, 2015 10:32 AM  

Everyone Else are subsequently grateful to the warrior class for taking responsibility for them.

I think you have nailed why Vox's blog continues to grow while other blogs featuring dress wearing Nancy-boys continues to diminish.

Anonymous Steve January 11, 2015 10:36 AM  

ne pas subir - sounds like the aftermath of the London riots. The riots themselves were a carnival of diversity. But the folks who volunteered to clean up the streets afterwards were overwhelmingly - nearly 100% going by the pictures - white.

Anonymous Puddinghead Wilson January 11, 2015 10:41 AM  

....You have to tell her "you're going to die because of your misguided beliefs". T....It's ridiculous, but it works. Just keep repeating it and watch them gradually give in. It's bizarre, but effective for those limited to rhetoric. They can't stand to hear things like "you're going to die" or "everyone will hate you". It terrifies them on some core level. They truly think they are protected because they have a degree from Harvard or whatever, so you can easily puncture that by ridiculing the notion. Which is, after all, absurd.


Thanks.

The lesson is slowly sinking in.

I have two targets in mind where I can practice this.




Blogger Shimshon January 11, 2015 10:48 AM  

I just read today that even though only around 10K French Jews came to Israel 2013-4, around 100K left altogether (out of total of ~500K in 2012). First time I heard this astonishing figure. I wish they were all coming to Israel, but it is clear that the French Jews (who are mostly from former French Arab colonies, as pre-WWII French Jewry was almost wiped out) don't buy into the multi-culti BS. They know all about Dhimmitude and Muslim coexistence.

I wouldn't be surprised if another 100K leave this year.

While the French elite are making absurd statements like "France without Jews is not France" (really?) Bibi is calling for French Jews to leave en masse.

Anonymous PA January 11, 2015 10:50 AM  

Are Westerners ready for any changes? Imagine a nationalist restoration today. Some eggs are broken, many peoples' lifetime of complacent default liberalism is shocked.

How does the average westerner come to understand and support the change, rather than protest it emasse, in morally vain gestures of 'fighting fascism?'

Weak stomachs, rather than strong minds bring changes. Are white stomachs sufficiently disgusted with the status quo?

Anonymous Samuel Scott January 11, 2015 10:54 AM  

Shimson, yeah -- even Yair Lapid (the center-left politician who is opposed to Bibi in the upcoming elections) said all French Jews should move to Israel. It's probably the only thing on which the left and right in Israel agree.

Anonymous VD January 11, 2015 10:59 AM  

While the French elite are making absurd statements like "France without Jews is not France" (really?) Bibi is calling for French Jews to leave en masse.

I saw that all four Jewish victims were going to be buried by their families in Israel. That's a strong statement right there.

France without Jews is France. The idea that a nation of 70 million needs 500k Jews is risible. Jews don't belong in France; the French have always disliked them. They don't hate the Jews like the Germans, but they aren't as tolerant as the Italians either. Frankly, I don't understand why the Jews kept returning to France; I think they were formally expelled at least seven different times. Historically, the French have never bought the multiple loyalties nonsense; they weren't necessarily all that keen on the idea that one could be both Catholic and French either.

Anonymous VD January 11, 2015 11:00 AM  

Shimson, yeah -- even Yair Lapid (the center-left politician who is opposed to Bibi in the upcoming elections) said all French Jews should move to Israel. It's probably the only thing on which the left and right in Israel agree.

It was not all that long ago when I was being attacked as anti-Semitic for pointing out the very same thing. Informative, n'est ce pas?

Anonymous Stg58 / Animal Mother January 11, 2015 11:03 AM  

If France can formally expel Jews 7 times, JEWS! I'm not going to be surprised at all when they do the same thing to Muslims.

Anonymous Storm Saxon's Gall Bladder January 11, 2015 11:11 AM  

pyrrhus: "I heard that the 4th suspect has escaped to Syria...crack police work no doubt..."

I suppose there is an underground railroad connecting a hundred mosques to move men and guns from Syria, and likely the police are not allowed to investigate french mosques for the same reason the mosques of New York City are off limits. They do the best they can with what they've got, but what they got is a self-destructive globalist government holding the borders wide open and inviting destabilizing villainy to wander in and pick up a welfare card. I will wager that half the un-promoted beat cops would like to acquire a light machine gun and use it on the usual suspects.

Anonymous Puddinghead Wilson January 11, 2015 11:12 AM  

Absurd, death-invoking rhetorical bombs deployed.

As Hannibal Lector preferred pairing a rich, red, Barolo with fresh human liver, I thought a dry, pungent "you are alone" pairs nicely with a bloody-rare serving of "Islam will kill you".

I must say, though, it does feel ridiculous to abandon dialectic for pure rhetoric.

burp.

Anonymous The other skeptic January 11, 2015 11:16 AM  

The police said it was too soon to say whether there was a connection between the attack and the newspaper’s publication of the Charlie Hebdo cartoons.

Yeah, the obvious will always be too soon for them.

Blogger Shimshon January 11, 2015 11:18 AM  

Vox, as I pointed out, the vast majority of French Jews today have only been there since after WWII. They came from Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, etc. in the aftermath of the founding of the state of Israel and as France lost its grip on their colonies (the poor went to Israel, the well off went to France). They like France, and it was a very nice place to live for many years, but they are not overly attached to it (the way, say, American Jews are).

My understanding is that the French even today are still bitter about L'affaire Dreyfus. I didn't realize there were seven expulsions (I knew of at least three), but I am not surprised.

Blogger JACIII January 11, 2015 11:23 AM  

It will take awhille for France to take the decision to expel the Muslims. They may let the Muslims expel the Jews for them first.

Anonymous zen0 January 11, 2015 11:27 AM  

@ pyrrus
I heard that the 4th suspect has escaped to Syria...crack police work no doubt.

If you mean the female, Debka is reporting that she "escaped" a week ago.
Interesting theatre, yes?

Anonymous VD January 11, 2015 11:31 AM  

This is the list of the Jewish expulsions from France. The first two were partial. Doesn't count either Dreyfus or Napoleon.

554 (Clermont)
561 (Uzès)
1182
1290
1306
1322
1394
1453
1806 (Napoleon's Jewish reform)

Napoleon didn't want to expel them, his goal was to cure them of their addiction to usury.

Anonymous The other skeptic January 11, 2015 11:31 AM  

I suppose there is an underground railroad connecting a hundred mosques to move men and guns from Syria, and likely the police are not allowed to investigate french mosques for the same reason the mosques of New York City are off limits.

This is what makes a mockery of the claim that the majority of Muslims are peace loving etc.

They provide the infrastructure for those who would subvert Western Civilization, and indeed, really have no love for Western Civilization believing that Islam will provide the same creature comforts when it replaces Western Civilization.

Don't let the camel get its nose in the door.

Anonymous Samuel Scott January 11, 2015 11:33 AM  

Vox, if I recall my history correctly, Napoleon asked them if they were French or Jewish first. They said (via community representatives), "French, our religion is just Judaism."

Anonymous VD January 11, 2015 11:37 AM  

Vox, if I recall my history correctly, Napoleon asked them if they were French or Jewish first. They said (via community representatives), "French, our religion is just Judaism."

Yes, you've correctly characterized it. These days, it doesn't appear as if they were telling the truth. Or perhaps the development of Zionism came to trump that identification. I don't know.

Anonymous Samuel Scott January 11, 2015 11:43 AM  

Question -- I'm curious to hear what people think.

I'm watching CNN International. A French Muslim woman told CNN that she is holding a newspaper with the headline "I am Jewish" because she wants everyone to live together in peace.

(link to photo)

What do you think that is?

1. Isolated woman whose views don't reflect the majority
2. A PR-friendly face to spread lies that the Muslim community wants to live in peace with everyone
3. A reflect of the actual sentiments of the majority of the Muslim community
4. Something else (what?)

Blogger Shimshon January 11, 2015 11:46 AM  

"These days, it doesn't appear as if they were telling the truth."

French Jewry today doesn't descend from 18th or 19th century French Jewry. They were very likely being truthful, as there was a huge amount of assimilation going on.

German Jews often would declaim similarly ("we are Germans of the Mosaic faith").

Post-WWII French Jewry never would've made such a statement, if the choice was forced on them.

Anonymous Red Comet January 11, 2015 11:49 AM  

Is she sending her kid(s) to an inner-city school so that they can enjoy the benefits of diversity

The current mental gymnastics routine I'm seeing from good white liberals is that they send their kids to (all white) private school because the evil Republicans are "underfunding" public school.

Anonymous DavidK January 11, 2015 11:53 AM  

I don't think they hit a million people, probably a few hundred thousand according to some of the latest reports.

Anonymous Samuel Scott January 11, 2015 11:56 AM  

Vox, I'll second what Shimson wrote. "Jews" are not a monolithic entity of people that believe the same thing in every country in every century.

As he said, before World War II most German Jews viewed themselves as German as anyone else. Most often, they were secular. However, in eastern Europe and Russia at the same time, hasidism and ultra-Orthodox Judaism and Zionism were all growing movements there. (Though the ultra-religious Jews and the Zionist Jews were usually opposed to each other.)

Context is always important. Heh, remember the joke about five Jews and six opinions.

Anonymous Samuel Scott January 11, 2015 12:06 PM  

Vox,

It was not all that long ago when I was being attacked as anti-Semitic for pointing out the very same thing. Informative, n'est ce pas?

Yeah, those characterizations are entirely inaccurate and unfortunate.

Anonymous PA January 11, 2015 12:09 PM  

"remember the joke about five Jews and six opinions."

This is an old, idiotic saying. It also insults non-Jews as simple minded.

When two of my friends and I get together, there are also four opinions among the three of us. Thats what happens when intelligent talk. But get an outsider to mess with one of us, we're suddenly of one opinion.

Anonymous Stg58 / Animal Mother January 11, 2015 12:09 PM  

My grandparents and great grand parents were very patriotic as far as I can tell. My dad told me stories of when he went to visit his grandfather Nathan (Yes I know really Jewish) at his dentist practice in Harlem. His uncle, my great Uncle Bill, would drill my dad in military procedures. Uncle Bill was in the military too. Then my dad would get his haircut and dental checkup. My grandfather also served during WW2 for the whole war in the Army. My dad was bat mitzvahed in the Bronx in 1945. As far as I can tell, from what my dad told me, they were regular Jews and were very Pro American.

Anonymous Samuel Scott January 11, 2015 12:14 PM  

"remember the joke about five Jews and six opinions."

This is an old, idiotic saying. It also insults non-Jews as simple minded.


I interpret it as portraying we Jews as being more quarrelsome, on average, than other peoples. I could tell story after story about daily life in Israel. I'll be the first to admit that all peoples have good and bad qualities -- Jews, English, Arabs, and so on.

Anonymous zen0 January 11, 2015 12:15 PM  

> Context is always important. Heh, remember the joke about five Jews and six opinions

Apparently, however, all the families of the French people who happened to have Judaism as a religion seem to have one opinion on where the burials will take place.

Anonymous Stg58 / Animal Mother January 11, 2015 12:16 PM  

I had 4 great aunts that lived in Plantation, FL. They did argue a lot.

Anonymous paradox January 11, 2015 12:18 PM  

I don't know why you guys would want Leftist Jews. Especially if you want to preserve Israel.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 11, 2015 12:20 PM  

One tactical mistake the Right makes is not forcing the Left to make any intellectual arguments. Take the issue of Islam, the Right is out there being smart and ineffective as usual and yet they give the Left a pass. The Left is literally down to repeating the rhetoric of "They come in peace", hell, they might as well hire Scalzi at the NYTs to write their editorials and then tweet them out to the idiots.

Anonymous frenchy January 11, 2015 12:20 PM  

I hope that what comes out of these shootings, is that the state cannot defend its people, so the gun laws must change. Even the Swiss will need to do this. Having a machine gun, but not being able to carry concealed, is pointless.

At least the Russians have changed their laws.

Anonymous Samuel Scott January 11, 2015 12:25 PM  

I don't know why you guys would want Leftist Jews. Especially if you want to preserve Israel.

Because blood trumps politics. The State of Israel welcomes any Jew who wants citizenship (subject to a few qualifications such as you cannot have been convicted of a crime in your country or origin) -- and all Israeli citizens together will determine the future of the country.

Now, I grew up in America. Most American Jews are centrist or liberal (like I used to be). But most of then drift to the right over time (as I did). It's one thing that want peace and two states and whatever in theory. But it's a lot different to live here and experience, as I did this past summer, intercepted rockets exploding over Tel Aviv on a daily basis.

Anonymous Eric the Red January 11, 2015 12:25 PM  

87% of Florida citrus growers produce oranges. Clearly they are anti-grapefruit and haters of same. For farming and society in general to be truly equal, there can be no place for anti-grapefruit intolerance.

The point being that reality cannot be described as a binary effect. The desire to maintain a native European or American culture, coupled with the desire to have freedom of association (a penumbra of the right to assembly), inevitably impinges on any other aggressive foreign culture in its midst. The left immediately brands this as anti-Muslim intolerance, which is nothing but a gross binary distortion of reality, and effectively shows the contempt the elites have for the masses.

Of course at this point, anti-Muslim intolerance means anything the left wants it to mean, including the desire to have all moslems either fully assimilate or else leave. However, the more the left attempts to bottle up peaceful responses from the native culture, the sooner it means there will be no such responses remaining, and active violence against all moslems and their elitist enablers will be the only effective choice.

Blogger Shimshon January 11, 2015 12:27 PM  

Samuel Scott, while I get the joke, it's really pretty cliche (especially by you, as you use it a lot at VP) and doesn't add any substance to the discussion. It doesn't even address the difference between pre- (virtually 100% Ashkenazi and highly assimilated) and post-WWII (close to 100% Sephardi and very traditional) French Jewry. Otherwise, agreed.

Anonymous Samuel Scott January 11, 2015 12:28 PM  

Apparently, however, all the families of the French people who happened to have Judaism as a religion seem to have one opinion on where the burials will take place.

Such data cannot be quantified, but I'm sure your statement is inaccurate. The hundreds or more of Jews in France who die from old age or whatever every day and are buried in French cemeteries don't make the headlines.

But the few Jews who die in an attack and whose families have them buried in Israel -- perhaps as a symbolic statement because of the nature of their deaths -- do make the headlines.

Anonymous Samuel Scott January 11, 2015 12:31 PM  

while I get the joke, it's really pretty cliche (especially by you, as you use it a lot at VP) and doesn't add any substance to the discussion.

I make that statement because many people here observe that "Jews" do A in context X and B in context Y as "proof" of being duplicitous or conniving or something else.

I respond by saying that Jews are individual human beings who do different things at different times and in different context because they disagree, their personal situations are different, or numerous other factors.

Blogger Shimshon January 11, 2015 12:38 PM  

As has been noted here, some people simply have an axe to grind about the Jooooos, while others seem quite willing to engage in open and honest discussion. Simply ignore the first type, they are dialectically incapable of discussion on any topic that even tangentially relates to Jews. The others can see that the Jews who inhabit the comments differ to various degrees. No need to repeat it over and over.

Anonymous Corvinus January 11, 2015 12:41 PM  

Had the neighbors over for dinner last night, she is a Harvard educated stay at home mom. She denied emphatically that multiculturalism is a problem when this came up and that she would be more than happy to have her sons passed over in college admissions in order to place a lesser qualified applicant in their place based on race "for the good of society".

She also said that gamer gate was about people harrassing women.

So, no, I don't see the public changing its POV any time soon about any of these things.


You do realize that all women have the urge to be the Bad Idea Bears, and to be treated as such, right?

Anonymous Stg58 / Animal Mother January 11, 2015 12:44 PM  

One of my brothers lives in Tel Aviv, Samuel. I'll have to ask him his take on what's going on, unless his mind is clouded.

Anonymous fish January 11, 2015 12:50 PM  

My dad was bat mitzvahed in the Bronx in 1945.

There's an unfortunate typo!

Anonymous Rabbi B January 11, 2015 12:51 PM  

"They were very likely being truthful, as there was a huge amount of assimilation going on . . . German Jews often would declaim similarly ("we are Germans of the Mosaic faith")."

Beginning in the early 19th century Germany with so-called 'Emancipation' the doors of the Jewish ghetto began to open. Jewish peddlers would become merchants; the money-lenders and pawnbrokers would become bankers and financiers; Jewish students would be accepted into the universities, etc.

David Friedlaender, a close disciple of Moses Mendelssohn, summed up the new view: "Our commandments are so little suited to our present customs and liberties that, in my opinion, a revolution in the domain of religion must come about among the Jews in ten years." The alternatives for German Jews would also include assimilation with or without a trip to the baptismal.

In the late 1820's in a town in Southern Germany, a local rabbi turned the very solemn observance of the 9th of Av (commemorating the destruction of Temple and other tragedies) into a festive occasion to demonstrate their "repudiation of the out-of-date yearning for Palestine, and to offer proof of their patriotic attachment to the Fatherland . . . from which they hoped to obtain full civic freedom and equality . . . Jerusalem - declared this rabbi - is here, and Palestine is now situated on German soil."

Emancipation simply prolongs our exile. One rabbi compared Emancipation to a king who built a palace for his exiled son. Instead of rejoicing, the son lamented that his improved living conditions only indicated that the king did not intend to bring him home any time soon. "Where [Jews] declare themselves ready to exchange the Torah for the new freedom and the new justice, they will have to wait the longest time and most likely in vain for the blessings of a better time . . . Enmity and oppression will continue . . . not because we are too Jewish . . .but because we meet our Jewish obligations deficiently, indifferently and frivolously." [R' S.R. Hirsch]

It is the rising non-observance that proves again and again to be the cause rather than the cure of anti-Semitism. We are our own worst enemy. If the words of the prophets and the Bible were taken seriously, we would understand that the only result of abandoning our calling and faithfulness to His Word is going to be suffering and a deepening of the current exile. The current scourge of Islam that is beginning to sweep across the West is a blessing in disguise and I hope it runs every Jew out of every corner of the globe. The United States will be next, and due to the number of Jews still here, I imagine we can look forward to something substantial that may make France look like a day in the nursery. We'll see.

I am making a pilot trip to Israel in the next month or two to look at a property, and perhaps before the end of the year my family and I will be in Israel. The writing is on the wall and no interpretation is necessary. G-d is more than capable of dealing with the nations when it comes to how they treated the Jews; but for us, it's clearly time to go home.

Anonymous Stg58 / Animal Mother January 11, 2015 12:54 PM  

Fish,

It is indeed. I think my phone is being controlled by the Elders of Zion.

Anonymous Disqualification January 11, 2015 12:57 PM  

A Jewish grandmother is watching her grandchild playing on the beach when a huge wave comes and takes him out to sea. She pleads, "Please God, save my only grandson. I beg of you, bring him back." Suddenly, a big wave comes and washes the boy back onto the beach, good as new. She looks up to heaven and yells: "He had a hat on too!"

Anonymous hausfrau January 11, 2015 1:04 PM  

So you have this million man march in support of multiculturalism and "peaceful" Islam yet the authorities supporting this march also felt the need to tighten security, even posting snipers on roof tops for the occasions just in case "radical" Islamists decide to rain on their peace parade. Something tells me these people have no sense of irony.

Blogger wrf3 January 11, 2015 1:05 PM  

Disqualification wrote: "He had a hat on, too."

How can G-d be G-d if you think what G-d does is wrong?

Anonymous zen0 January 11, 2015 1:07 PM  

Feiglin: Inviting Abbas to Paris Rally Ridiculous

Unless the West is willing to face up to its enemies, all the rallies it musters against terror won't do any good, says MK Moshe Feiglin.

Anonymous Samuel Scott January 11, 2015 1:09 PM  

How can G-d be G-d if you think what G-d does is wrong?

Abraham and Moses argued with God. Just saying. :)

Seriously, that's a theological argument that's way too long for here -- and that I don't remember myself, anyway.

Blogger Shimshon January 11, 2015 1:10 PM  

Rabbi B, I don't know about "next," but the time is close at hand when the Jews will be in a similar pickle. There are a lot of Muslims there too, plus a lot of blacks and Latinos that also don't care much for us. As the economic situation deteriorates there, the temperature will rise considerably. Especially since since Jews by and large reside in the most vibrant areas.

I think other European nations are likely to become flash points first. The UK in particular.

Although I haven't been back to the old country in 10 years, so my opinion may be outdated.

Anonymous Samuel Scott January 11, 2015 1:12 PM  

zen0 -- FYI in case you don't know, Feiglin placed very low in the Likud Party primary and will likely not return to parliament in the next election. I think he may have even left the party.

Blogger Rabbi B January 11, 2015 1:14 PM  

"Especially since since Jews by and large reside in the most vibrant areas."

Indeed. Miami, New York, and L.A. come to mind.

Anonymous Samuel Scott January 11, 2015 1:14 PM  

FYI, Bibi is meeting with the French president at the Grand Synagogue of Paris right now and will give a speech. It might be covered by some non-Israeli networks. He'll undoubtedly speak in English.

Objective point to remember: Bibi will also be speaking to an Israeli audience because he's running for re-election at the moment.

Blogger wrf3 January 11, 2015 1:18 PM  

Samuel Scott wrote: "Abraham and Moses argued with God. Just saying."

Yes, they did. But so did Adam, even if the argument wasn't recorded, and even if it was only an internal monologue. It's what got our great-great-...-great ancestors kicked out of Eden.

But, you're right. That's an argument slightly off topic for here.

Blogger Shimshon January 11, 2015 1:20 PM  

I follow Feiglin pretty closely. He did leave Likud. He will definitely not return to the Knesset next election. His goal was never to be an MK anyway, but to lead the country.

He's planning for what happens when the next government falls, and fall it will, probably more quickly than the last one (which made to two years), regardless of who wins.

Rabbi B, don't forget Chicago!

Blogger kurt9 January 11, 2015 1:25 PM  

Ralph Peters made the same prediction some years ago:

http://nypost.com/2006/11/26/the-eurabia-myth-muslims-take-over-europe-sorry-theres-no-chance/

Note the 2006 publication date.

Anonymous Samuel Scott January 11, 2015 1:26 PM  

Right, but if Bibi leads the next government he said he wants to change the system to have more government stability. But who knows if it will happen. This might be OT

Anonymous Big Bill January 11, 2015 1:26 PM  

Vox, I'll second what Shimson wrote. "Jews" are not a monolithic entity of people that believe the same thing in every country in every century.

Nor were all colonial whites in Africa a "monolithic entity"--and yet they are gone. Nor were all Indian tribes in the Americas--and yet they are gone. Neither were all Greeks (according to Thucydides). Neither are all Palestinians.

In fact, I don't know of any peoples that have ever been "monolithic entities" through the entirety of human history.

More recently, the millions of "Germans" that had scattered all across Eurasia for hundreds of years were decidedly not a "monolithic entity". Yet at the end of WWII, with the blessings of Churchill, Roosevelt, Stalin (and Morgenthau) they all magically became "Germans". For over a year they made their own Trail of Tears back to Germany, suffering mass rape and murder along the way--pauper, peasant and prince alike.

I expect the same will happen to the Palestinians in Eretz Y'israel and to the Muslims in the West, and for much the same reason: racial/tribal/ethnic boundaries need to get periodically "adjusted" (so to speak). It is human nature.

Anonymous zen0 January 11, 2015 1:29 PM  

>
I follow Feiglin pretty closely. He did leave Likud

Was expelled by Machiavellian machinations is more like it. Feiglin seems to be the only politician BiBi fears.

Anonymous zen0 January 11, 2015 1:34 PM  

@ Rabbi B
I am making a pilot trip to Israel in the next month or two to look at a property, and perhaps before the end of the year my family and I will be in Israel.

You are a Messianic believer are you not? Will you be proselytizing there?

Anonymous Samuel Scott January 11, 2015 1:34 PM  

Was expelled by Machiavellian machinations is more like it. Feiglin seems to be the only politician BiBi fears.

I'd say your half-right. (In my amateur analysis.) The next Israeli election will be won by who can get the center on their side. Both the right (Likud-Jewish Home) and the left (Labor-Hatnuah-Yesh Atid) are trying to get the centrists.

So, I'd argue that the Likud primary threw support towards the center-right rather than the right because of that fact. Now whether that was "engineered" by Bibi or whether it was a decision among the Likud electorate -- I cannot say.

Blogger wrf3 January 11, 2015 1:35 PM  

Big Bill wrote: It is human nature.

Then what do you do with people who think that God's kingdom encompasses the whole world and who think that there is a unity in Christ transcends racial, political, economic, and gender boundaries? (gal 3:28)

Both Islam and multi-cult are perversions of Christianity. They want the benefits apart from the Ruler.

Blogger Rabbi B January 11, 2015 1:36 PM  

" . . .don't forget Chicago!"

That's right ... that toddling town, Chi-ca-go! :)

Blogger wrf3 January 11, 2015 1:41 PM  

Sameul Scott wrote: The next Israeli election will be won by who can get the center on their side.

Sure. That's basic game theory. It's why all candidates, who want to win, run to the center before an election.

The truck is knowing where the center is. It's also why the center cannot hold. In cold weather, those on the outside keep moving inward until they, in turn, are replaced by the new outside.The next Israeli election will be won by who can get the center on their side.

Anonymous Samuel Scott January 11, 2015 1:45 PM  

Sure. That's basic game theory. It's why all candidates, who want to win, run to the center before an election.

Right, but that's not always true in an Israeli context. Due to the complicated Israeli political system -- it's not "winner take all" as in the US -- it's not a race to the center, most of the time. But it just seems to be true in this upcoming election.

Basically, voters who prioritize security or religion will vote for a right-wing or religious party and those who prioritize economic issues will vote for a left-wing or centrist party. And the religious parties could join with the left and center ones in a coalition.

Blogger The Original Hermit January 11, 2015 2:11 PM  

"As for those who claim that we cannot hold all Muslims responsible for the actions of their military wing"

I'm surprised nobody has brought up the term "Stalking Horse", at least not that I've seen. There are the militants, and the non-militant stalking horses that give them cover. They might not be directly causing trouble, but they provide a substantial support system.

Anonymous zen0 January 11, 2015 2:21 PM  

For those who were wondering how the shooters managed to get their weapons, apparently it is quite easy in France.

Easily Obtained Arsenal

Anonymous Brain Death January 11, 2015 2:26 PM  

""As for those who claim that we cannot hold all Muslims responsible for the actions of their military wing""

Muslims have a 1400 year legacy of murder, rape and and slavery that continues to this day. There are few good works by muslims to offset said legacy. Anyone who self identifies with such a group is worthy of suspicion at a minimum.

Blogger Shimshon January 11, 2015 2:31 PM  

Sam Scott, as Vox pointed out recently, it's a race to the center...until it isn't. In Europe, that means the nationalist parties place poorly, until they start winning elections.

Neither the left nor the right are prepared for large numbers of Jews, especially Western Jews, moving here in a very short time frame. For example, If, instead of 10K out of 100K French Jews in the last two years, all 100K were to move here.

They're too busy passing laws making it illegal to give away newspapers for free or mandating that movie theaters allow patrons to bring in food. Left and Right.

Anonymous WCU January 11, 2015 2:39 PM  

I guessing that their kids didn't go to Stranahan.

Anonymous WCU January 11, 2015 2:44 PM  

God be with you on your journey and give your family success in your new homeland Rabi!

Anonymous Jack Amok January 11, 2015 2:50 PM  

These days, it doesn't appear as if they were telling the truth. Or perhaps the development of Zionism came to trump that identification. I don't know.

I'd assume French Jews, like American Jews, and a whole bunch of other groups, religious and secular, came to think the West was essentially automatically stable, peacefull and prosperous, and so thought they could champion their own narrow group interests without worrying about any damage to society. A tragedy of the commons.

Anonymous The other skeptic January 11, 2015 3:39 PM  

Spain wants to change the visa rules, but if weapons can come in from elsewhere, what is to stop natives from acquiring weapons and solving the problems?

Anonymous The other skeptic January 11, 2015 4:00 PM  

Spain wants to change the visa rules, but with weapons coming in from other places, what is to stop natives from fixing the problem?

Blogger Matamoros January 11, 2015 4:01 PM  

Samuel Huntington warned of this coming great clash of civilizations back in 1993. Enoch Powell warned of the rivers of blood that would flow if mass immigration from non-European countries was permitted back in 1968.

Lothrop Stoddard in the 1920s warned of all this in his books:

The New World of Islam, 1921, and

The Rising Tide of Color Against White World-Supremacy, 1922

Blogger Thordaddy January 11, 2015 4:08 PM  

The nihilistic West Is most certainly compatible with Islam... An anti-white Supremacist disposition and a mutual desire for radical sexual autonomy says the liberated West and Islam are like hand and glove.... A real symbiotic regression of self-annihilators.

OpenID cailcorishev January 11, 2015 4:19 PM  

What do you think that is?

#2 (a PR move). On an individual basis, it could be #1 (an individual Muslim who truly has nothing against Jews and doesn't support jihad, although to my knowledge that would make her a bad Muslim, kinda like a "Catholic" who supports socialism and abortion). But regardless of her intentions, it serves the cause of #2: the dishonest attempt by the Muslim community and its media friends to present Islam as something harmless.

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Blogger Shimshon January 11, 2015 4:46 PM  

Ron, are you new around here? You certainly put on airs on just how well you know me based on a few words. Where on do you get the idea that by saying the politicians in power are not up to the task that mass aliyah is a problem I don't want to deal with?

I do not put my faith in faithless politicians. They are not up to the task. And I have been on the record here and everywhere that all Jews belong here in Israel, and as soon as possible. Of course the country can absorb 100K French olim.

Besides, French Jewry is just the start.

The coming economic catastrophe is also not going to bypass Israel, which also embarked on its own sizable credit expansion. Bernanke was the student. Stanley Fischer was the teacher.

Blogger MidKnight January 11, 2015 5:05 PM  

@Vox

61 percent is not an outlier. That is the mainstream position. That is the will of the people. That was before PEGIDA, before the Charlie Hebdo massacre, and before the Jewish deli murders. It is probably over 70 percent by now.

And that percentage I am sure will go higher. I'm amazed the march wasn't targeted, but even so, a german paper that dared republish the cartoons was firebombed the other night

Blogger Jordan179 January 11, 2015 5:32 PM  

The choice is now between Charlie Hebdo and Charlie Martel.

Very well put. I hope that the French have begun to realize this.

OpenID simplytimothy January 11, 2015 5:43 PM  

Does anybody think that the professional Left can redirect the ire towards Muslims towards Christianity? I have already seen attempts to do so by one gay commenter, and the taqiyya practicing muslim marxist in chief is proposing a summit to discuss "security" which I suspect will be the usual bait-n-switch.

The question is, do you think they can succeed?



OpenID cailcorishev January 11, 2015 5:58 PM  

Very well put. I hope that the French have begun to realize this.

Yes. Along those lines, I'm wondering what the people marching today were there for. I see lots of people talking about the march, and people incensed that Obama apparently sent no one to it, but I haven't seen much talk about what the point is. Is it just a feel-good thing? A show of tolerance for "moderate" Muslims? (If that's the case, I wouldn't have sent anyone either, though obviously for different reasons than Obama.) A protest against government policies that made this possible? I have no idea, and I doubt most of the other people praising the march do either; marching == good, it seems.

Blogger luagha January 11, 2015 6:06 PM  

Israel has absorbed large numbers of foreign Jews several times in the past, even in the recent past. It may not be the easiest thing in the world but it won't provoke any kind of collapse. Especially not with French Jews whose level of education and likely knowledge of languages would be high.

It may cause some level of complaining, but they're Jews. They wouldn't be happy if they weren't complaining.

Anonymous takin' a look January 11, 2015 6:13 PM  

-simplytimothy

Does anybody think that the professional Left can redirect the ire towards Muslims towards Christianity?

if you mean try to redirect the non-white, non-christian members of the SJW hordes against white western christianity, well that's already in place. They may have a harder time with the white and non-white christians who are getting an education on fora across the net and in RL. I'm sure there will be plenty of spin and angles tested to get the fence-sitters back in the fold.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus January 11, 2015 6:23 PM  

Jack Amok: "A tragedy of the commons."

The solution for the tragedy of the commons was enclosure. This is also the solution for white people: explicit, formal and real exclusive possession of some bits of territory, the remainder effectively being handed over for destruction. Everything else leads to nonexistence for whites, without which there is no "West".

Anonymous takin' a look January 11, 2015 6:48 PM  

-Titus Didius Tacitus

Agreed, especially if we have a stadial* (or worst, full-on glacial) coming our way. Given the weather trends of the last two decades, i would expect that to "help along" the rise of nationalism in Europe and New Zealand and the balkanization of North America and potentially South America and Australia which all have large non-white ethnic groups, either native or imported. South Africa is lost to us for the foreseeable future. Northern Asia and the Med Pond might see continuous bloody wars for territory as these lands see their deserts bloom due to increased precipitation into more temperature climes.

*a stadial is not necessarily a "colder" period, but a wetter one. it can lead to colder periods if enough glaciers grow faster from the accumulated snow pack than they melt in summer.

Anonymous takin' a look January 11, 2015 7:37 PM  

Oh this is rich.

Volunteer_Security_Forces_for_London_Jews

"Extra Jewish security patrol cars and police were out in force in North-West London yesterday following the kosher store siege in Paris.

The cars look very similar to police vehicles and bear the security group’s name ‘Shomrim’ – Hebrew for ‘guards’ – along the sides and back.

The Orthodox organisation, which works closely with the Metropolitan Police, tweeted: ‘Following events in Paris we will have on extra patrols throughout NW London over Shabbos [ the Jewish sabbath].'

Shomrim volunteers receive police training and uniforms, including knife-proof vests."


As well as this, my, my...

Make_a_mess_for_the_goy_exit_stage_left

Geez.....why do I have giggling fits? It's that old joke about the jew falling in the pit he dug out. You had the Tribe promoting the multi-cult from Leon Blum to Dominique Strauss-Kahn. You've got the jewish created SOS Racisme and LICRA brow-beating the native french gentiles for decades for merely stating that "Invading them there/Inviting them here" is not good policy. What Chutzpah!

You can read more at Irish-Savant


Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus January 11, 2015 7:57 PM  

simplytimothy: "The question is, do you think they can succeed?"

With whom?

Anti-white multiculturalism thrives by influencing elites and making new elites. There is a counter-majoritarian bias, and tactics that take an end-run around democracy are pervasive. Quasi-monopolies in media control, administrative decisions and court decisions, all with no effective means of popular review, are common ways of pushing the white core ethnic groups into second or third-class status, in a system where everybody enjoys collective state protection except them. The white core ethnic populations (the French in France, the Aussies in Australia and so on) are given a sandwich and told to eat it, or else. (Otherwise, on an individual level, the penalties are extensive, beginning with an effective bar on professional advancement.)

The professional left can redirect the ire towards Muslims towards Christianity with key minorities, including ethnic minorities, and elites.

In fact they're already there and have been for decades. With the NY Times readership, jihad becomes "extremism" and the solution for that is bashing religious extremism, meaning Christians. If your goal is to convince Danny Cohen of the BBC to think along those lines, the job's done and it was when he was born. The same with the diversity hires in charge of (not) investigating Rotherham, and of course with the entire imported ethnic populations behind them. And, practically speaking, the same with the non-white majority growing up in America, being molded by an educational system, a news mass media and above all an entertainment mass media that reflects not only the intense anti-white hostility of its controllers but also their anti-Christian animus.

To call in question the validity of this strategy, whites would have to feel they are in a war, and they would have to demand and get political representation of their own, which would explicitly represent their interests, and which would overturn the rules of the game and the monopolies and sinecures of the anti-white establishment, and which would build white institutions that wouldn't just be culturally palatable to whites (as Christians etc.) but that would actually favor white and core ethnic national interests.

(I'll know that's happening when I see white businessmen building the white equivalents of Al Jazeera, news for whites, and getting effective political cover in doing so. The citadels of anti-white professional "leftist" domination must be challenged and overthrown.)

As things stand, whites lack collective representation, and are pinned down under constant fire. Change that, mobilize the whites, and the relevant question becomes: "can the professional left redirect the ire which self-consciously white, core-national and Christian populations have towards Muslims towards Christianity instead?"

The answer's no.

More importantly, the permanent establishment of the anti-white and anti-Christian professional left has to go.

And the anti-white and effectively anti-Christian professional right too, I mean "the conservative establishment" which has been horribly complicit in all this.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 11, 2015 8:13 PM  

cailcorishev
Along those lines, I'm wondering what the people marching today were there for.

Everyone else is doing it? It "makes a statement"? It's a place to pick up girls?

Probably most of the participants are just doing what their friends are doing.
It's been a thing to do since the 60's I guess. Or longer, in Europe wth the history of mass labor movements. Totally socially acceptable.

That may change pretty quickly if "Wir sind die Volk" keeps bringing more people into the streets. My mob is a "protest", your mob is a "mob".

Anonymous Viidad January 11, 2015 8:29 PM  

Rabbi B: "I am making a pilot trip to Israel in the next month or two to look at a property, and perhaps before the end of the year my family and I will be in Israel."

That's a bold move and probably a wise one. God be with you.

I've always wanted to visit Israel. Perhaps one day.

Blogger RBooster Man January 11, 2015 9:05 PM  

"She denied emphatically that multiculturalism is a problem when this came up and that she would be more than happy to have her sons passed over in college admissions in order to place a lesser qualified applicant in their place based on race "for the good of society"."

A person who sacrifices their family and friends for the sake of faraway strangers is a psychopath.

That Harvard-educated stay at home mom is a psychopath.

Anonymous Discard January 11, 2015 9:40 PM  

RBooster Man: More likely the Harvard stay at home is just full of shit. Lefties always excuse themselves from the rules they impose on lesser folks. That's why they live in White zones or send their brats to private schools.

Anonymous cheddarman January 11, 2015 10:31 PM  

G-d be with you, Rabbi B

Sincerely

Anonymous Point Of Clarification January 11, 2015 10:31 PM  

"In a November poll by the Bertelsmann Foundation, 61 percent of the German people said: "Islam has no place in the West"."

A total of 61 percent of those over the age of 54 said they felt threatened by Islam while, out of Germans under 25 years of age, only 39 percent said that they shared the view. Over 900 people were polled.

Anonymous cheddarman January 11, 2015 10:33 PM  

Vox,

I hope you are right. I don't expect the power behind the curtain to give up easily on their dream of replacing us with various 3 world immigrants

Blogger Manveer C January 11, 2015 10:41 PM  

Terrorist enablers are really what they are.

I wonder what would happen if the majority of media outlets had a "make fun of the "prophet" Mohammed day". It would be a lot more brave, and show a sign of unity against "radical" Islam better than the march ever could.

Blogger Jew613 January 12, 2015 12:44 AM  

In the early 1950's Israel's population more then doubled with the mass Jewish immigration from Arab countries. Taking in 450,00 French Jews would be easy by comparison. Especially since I doubt the French government will steal all the property of the departing Jews as the Arabs did.

At the same time I see the next few years as the establishments best chance to save itself by allowing peaceful nationalist takeovers. If that doesn't happen it will only delay the issue and make the transition far more violent and difficult.

Anonymous An Israeli January 12, 2015 5:04 AM  

I would welcome each and every one of France's Jews if they decide to make Aliyah. They are our brothers and sisters.

It will be a challenge, every large scale immigration is, but not as much as previous Aliyah waves were. French Jews are not impoverished and many of them are educated. The challenge will be to find them all jobs that suit them and good places to live. All that can be solved.

Anonymous An Israeli January 12, 2015 5:24 AM  

Was expelled by Machiavellian machinations is more like it. Feiglin seems to be the only politician BiBi fears.

Bibi doesn't fear Feiglin. He has no reason to. Feiglin has very little public support.

Bibi dislikes him, though, and for good reason. Feiglin as an MK did what he wished. He didn't heed Bibi's orders nor those of the party. And he's perceived as a radical. The truth is that Feiglin tried to do a hostile takeover of the Likud. It failed, and rightfully so.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar January 12, 2015 9:18 AM  

Actually the Jews have split. I don't remember the last time Israel took any fire from the media. But Magic Negro just keeps insulting him and no one seems to care. An interesting thing has happened recently. Israel is now seen as a problem which has disturbed the narrative. The White Genocide meme has focused some Leftists on Israel's Apartheid policy towards Palestinians and apparently this has caused some media to throw Israel under the bus for the purposes of keeping the narrative of egalitarianism going.
I doubt they intend to sacrifice Israel for their project of multiculturalism in the West, but there is definitely friction between AIPAC and the domestic Jews. Likud and Netanyahu have been blindsided by criticism from media for the first time, both to protect the idiot in the White House and the Multicultural narrative that is crumbling fast. There was serious talk of imposing sanctions on Israel to force Netanyahu out, which would have been inconceivable previously.
Its unclear who the domestic Jews are trying to place in charge of Israel, but the bellicose and jingoistic Likud has definitely turned off the domestic Jews who are now in no hurry to sign up for Military Service in Israel. Most Military Service is low risk, but there must be some reason the domestic Jews don't want their sons and daughters going to the Middle East. Could they be worried about an Iranian Nuke?
This schism between International Jews and Israeli Jews is interesting. Usually its only Bankster Families that feud over money and power, with Israel as a safe haven they all value, but lately the Internationalists are showing signs they want to distance themselves from Israel. This is odd, because they're not pretending to assimilate. Maybe they believe the hype that Whites are finished and they will rule a polyglot hoard of stupid brown people.
In any case the Ayatollah is happy the little monkey is stopping Israel from bombing his Nuclear Plants that are busy making peaceful "energy".

OpenID simplytimothy January 12, 2015 12:33 PM  

@TDT,

thx for the distinctions.

Blogger Jack Morrow January 16, 2015 5:28 PM  

As I understand it, Napoleon wanted to restore Jews to the Holy Land and establish the Jewish state there, but was thwarted when he suffered his first notable defeat in 1798.

Current events are contributing to the fulfillment of Bible prophecy where God says he'll bring the people of Israel back to the land. See Ezekiel 36:24, 37:12-14.

Anonymous Wildbill November 23, 2015 5:31 PM  

This article had a lot of foreshadowing or predictive value to it. Interesting to go back and read this all again a few months later in light of the more recent Paris attacks. How many times will we have to say "I told you so" before this is all over....?

Blogger Corpus Mentis August 08, 2016 2:43 PM  

Are you aware of Doug Christie? a lawyer in Canada who basically came to many of the same solutions as yourself Vox? very interesting life and career, defended Holocaust deniers in court etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL6S2rOS0D0

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