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Monday, January 12, 2015

Pegida rises

As expected, the Paris attacks have caused German nationalism to continue growing, from 500 marchers to 25,000 in only three months:
A record 25,000 people joined an anti-Islamic march in Germany on Monday, claiming their stance was vindicated by last week's Paris jihadist attacks. However, the impressive turnout was dwarfed by 100,000 counter-demonstrators calling for tolerance nationwide.

Chancellor Angela Merkel earlier stressed that "Islam belongs to Germany" and announced she would on Tuesday join a Muslim community rally in Berlin against extremism, along with most of her cabinet ministers.

Undeterred, supporters of the self-styled Patriotic Europeans Against the Islamisation of the Occident, or PEGIDA, gathered for their 12th rally since October in their birthplace of Dresden in former communist east Germany.

The marchers waved the German national flag and held up placards that read "Fight Islamisation, stop the flood of foreigners now" and "Stop multiculturalism. My homeland will stay German".
The "counter-demonstrators" are irrelevant. They're just the usual suspects who will turn out for any leftist cause. They won't fight when the time comes; once the nationalists outnumber them they will disappear. What matters is the way Pegida is forcing the treasonous German elite to show its true anti-German colors.

Come election time, I imagine Merkel is going to be seeing a lot of pictures of herself in a burqah, talking about how "Islam belongs to Germany". Germans can be so tone-deaf it is hysterical; imagine how that assertion is going to go down in Iraq, Pakistan, and Egypt. I don't know enough about German politics to know if this will be enough to sink her yet, but it is clear that she's determined to go down with the transnational ship. Furthermore, given the media's obvious sympathies, it wouldn't be at all surprising if there were already more Pegida marchers than tolerance losers.

Tolerance, multiculturalism, and diversity are all dead. They'll twitch for a while, but no one with more than half a brain can still seriously claim to buy into the concepts. I note that Pegida is already spreading into Austria and Switzerland as well.

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Anonymous Poli_Mis January 12, 2015 7:32 PM  

Wie Heimatland!

Anonymous ! Dhimmi January 12, 2015 7:32 PM  

"Islam belongs to Germany" looks a lot like "Germany belongs to Islam".

I'm sure that's an accident. Yeah. Real sure.

Anonymous rubberducky January 12, 2015 7:43 PM  

"Islam belongs to Germany." Wow, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard any politician say. And I've heard a lot of very dumb things, such as American Samoa might tip over because there's too many people on it.

This is actually dumber, because at least the American Samoa comment had such trivial bearing that it could plausibly excused as a harmless off-the-cuff.

But, wow. In light of the Islamic crisis facing Europe, Merkel comes out with that? That's considered and heartfelt. That's an expression of commitment.

You have to wonder, if Islam belongs to Germany, do Germans? I mean, that question is BEGGED by that statement!

Anonymous Harsh January 12, 2015 7:54 PM  

Never bet against German nationalism.

OpenID cailcorishev January 12, 2015 7:57 PM  

"Islam belongs to Germany" looks a lot like "Germany belongs to Islam".

I noticed that too -- and a very easy point to make on a poster.

Anonymous NZT January 12, 2015 8:02 PM  

The European media has really pulled out all the stops to try to tar these rallies as lunatic-fringe Neo-Nazi goose-stepping baby-killing hate-filled haters. There have been reports of false-flag attendees carrying over-the-top offense signs, and getting identified and physically ejected by real protesters. It speaks volumes about the elites' terror of populist dissent, much like how French media always refers to the National Front as "far-right" even though it polls as the #1 party in the country (i.e. it's the mainstream by any reasonable definition).

Merkel really will go down in history as a traitor and a collaborator. That's what they get for letting a woman run their country.

Anonymous JRL January 12, 2015 8:11 PM  

The article did have an anti-nationalist slant. The first clue is the use of "self-styled" to counter any positive connotation to the phrase "Patriotic European".

In other words, AFP does not give PEGIDA the right to be taken at face value. Their actions and words must be spun.

... and they say conservatives can't deal in nuance.

Anonymous Anon January 12, 2015 8:17 PM  

"Never bet against German nationalism."

Actually never bet against extreme tone-deafness.

OpenID mattse001 January 12, 2015 8:21 PM  

@NZT and JRL:
Of course. They're leftists, and this is what they do.
The globalists can see their house of cards beginning to teeter, and if the truth has to die in order to shore it up, that's what they'll do.
...it's not like they were using truth anyway. They will hardly miss it.

Anonymous The Other Skeptic January 12, 2015 8:27 PM  

The White House acknowledges that they should have sent someone to the Unity Rally.

Blogger Bard January 12, 2015 8:30 PM  

"Christianity belongs to Germany" and they would unity march in Paris against it!

Blogger Eric January 12, 2015 8:33 PM  

The White House acknowledges that they should have sent someone to the Unity Rally.

Speaking of what leftists do. Something bad happened? I know, instead of dealing with the problem let's have a demonstration.

Anonymous The other skeptic January 12, 2015 8:33 PM  

40,000 protesters turn out for Pegida march in Dresden

Anonymous The other skeptic January 12, 2015 8:35 PM  

40,000 protesters turn out for Pegida march in Dresden

Anonymous physphilmusic January 12, 2015 8:38 PM  

Maybe not completely on-topic, but I've wanted to say this since a few days ago: every time I see a non-Muslim try to convince a Muslim that his religion is more violent and less civilized than others, committing acts of terror in response to the slightest provocation, the Muslim will simply point to the thousands of innocent civilians killed by Western forces in the Middle East. Especially drone attacks in Pakistan, which regularly kill teens of people including children. I really can't argue with that fact, and lose all sense of moral high ground. In fact, this latest outburst of violence in France is probably more caused by our activities in the Middle East rather than any fundamental Muslim hatred of Western values and culture. (Rotherham, probably not so much. That is a cultural problem).

Anonymous Anon January 12, 2015 8:47 PM  

"In fact, this latest outburst of violence in France is probably more caused by our activities in the Middle East rather than any fundamental Muslim hatred of Western values and culture."

Uhhh Islamic militants slaughtered an estimated 2,000 black folk What did the Africans do in the ME?

Blogger Bard January 12, 2015 8:49 PM  

You "cannot argue with the fact" that intentional murder in the name of religion has absolutely fucking nothing to do with collateral damage from military strikes with no religion involved whatsoever? Then you trumpet that as the standard for the moral high ground? Please continue so we can learn the wisdom behind this mysterious twisting of logic and reason.

Anonymous PA January 12, 2015 8:54 PM  

I guess one man's "collateral damage" is another man's dead child. We drone them there so we won't have to whore our teenage daughters to them here?

Anonymous JRL January 12, 2015 9:00 PM  

Check out "The Day of the Siege: September Eleven 1683" on Netflix.

It's a low budget movie, especially given the story it seeks to tell, but it has it's strong points...meaning the movie celebrates the turning back of the Mohammedan invasion into Christian Europe at Vienna.

Not to mention one of the heroes is an honest to God pious monk....it's worth watching just to see this rarity on the modern screen.

Anonymous rubberducky January 12, 2015 9:03 PM  

physphilmusic, you simply point out that the reason we have Western military forces in the Middle East is because of Muslim insistence. They, alone, are the ones constantly issuing fatwas, going on jihads, and openly and actively calling for genocide.

You point out that they are not a bunch of innocents, given what is said in nearly every mosque, and given the militarist stance of the entire religion on the whole.

Then, you might become bold and suggest that the Muslim Rage Boy act is getting quite old and darkly wearisome.

Anonymous The other skeptic January 12, 2015 9:03 PM  

I guess one man's "collateral damage" is another man's dead child.

Speaking of dead young black men, someone is going to lead a march in San Francisco to protest the killing of young black men my people unknown ...

Anonymous physphilmusic January 12, 2015 9:22 PM  

intentional murder in the name of religion has absolutely fucking nothing to do with collateral damage from military strikes with no religion involved whatsoever?

As Vox argues in similarly in The Irrational Atheist, whether the killings are done "in the name of Christianity" or not doesn't matter. From the perspective of the one having their children killed, it's a foreign, kaffir Western power doing covert, unlawful operations in their country. Most Muslims don't differentiate between Christendom and the West, just as we (and they) don't differentiate between Islam and Islamic states. It's indeed a large-scale clash of religions and civilizations - I'm pointing out that the West isn't exactly innocent either.

you simply point out that the reason we have Western military forces in the Middle East is because of Muslim insistence. They, alone, are the ones constantly issuing fatwas, going on jihads, and openly and actively calling for genocide.

You point out that they are not a bunch of innocents, given what is said in nearly every mosque, and given the militarist stance of the entire religion on the whole.


Good point, but in the end this is just a "you do it too!" kind of response. The Muslims, naturally, will insist that the fatwas and jihads are caused by Western provocation and meddling in their lands. And the fact remains that most of the collateral damage in Pakistan aren't families with direct ties to Al-Qaeda. A lot of them are just random villagers at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Anonymous rubberducky January 12, 2015 9:23 PM  

Observation on the photo from the Dresden PEGIDA rally: Wow so many flags!!

Germans don't fly flags. If you're American you're used to seeing the American flag everywhere. Germans just don't fly the colors. Europeans aren't into it half as much as Americans in general, and the Germans are below the European average at it. They fly it in official places and at international events such as the Olympics and World Cup. Other than that you just don't see the German flag half as much as you would in America, if that.

That Dresden rally had American-level flag presence.

Anonymous physphilmusic January 12, 2015 9:25 PM  

Uhhh Islamic militants slaughtered an estimated 2,000 black folk What did the Africans do in the ME?

Good example. I've actually seen something along this argument being advanced. Surprise: the Muslim will immediately point to anti-Muslim violence in the Central African Republic, or something similar.

Anonymous rubberducky January 12, 2015 9:34 PM  

And the Muslims are wrong to make this kind of tit-for-tat equivocation, physphilmusic. Only the constraints of multiculturalism's self-imposed blinders allow such a thought to be imaginable.

No other group you can propose, racial, religious or otherwise, competes with the Muslims in terms of cultural aggression. Excepting maybe Philadelphia Eagles fans (joke alert).

The Muslims may decry the fact that Western forces are in the Middle East getting in their business. Fine, but realize the only reason anybody is spending the money, blood and treasure to have anything to do with them is a situation of their own making. Obama is proof of the desperation of Americans to quit the region, and that's panned out to be a blind and cruel hope.

Nobody in their right mind would deal with these sick Muslim states unless they had to. And, once you tread down that road, you know the meaning of "tar baby".

Anonymous ZhukovG January 12, 2015 9:37 PM  

physphilmusic

You can reply to their argument by telling them that this is why they belong in Muslim lands and Europeans belong in European lands. Repatriation and Non-intervention.

Anonymous Big Bill January 12, 2015 9:38 PM  

"10% is quite a lot in my book and obviously this is having an appreciable affect in urban areas but it won’t amount to an ‘Islamisation’ of Europe.

In 2013, 68% of all newborns in Paris and suburbs (Ile de France) were Arab+African! That is up from 54% in just eight years!

Here is a chart showing the percentages of Arab+African newborns all across France for just the last eight years!.

The French Elite like to hide these numbers. They prevent the recordation of race and ethnicity on birth certificates and in government records. Why? Because (as we all know) you can magically turn into a Frenchman by singing "La Marseilles" three times, clapping your hands, clicking you heels together, and getting a free passport.

So where did these numbers come from? The Elite likes to give free neonatal sickle cell testing of all affected newborns. Which means all Arab+African babies. And the Elite wants to know how many Arab+African babies were tested in France every year. So doctors all across France report the percentages of Arab+African babies tested for sickle cell to the government.

Some French patriot gathered several years of these reports and summarized them in the chart at the link above.

Look. At. The. Freaking. Chart. Where do you get your "ten percent" numbers from?

Anonymous Anon January 12, 2015 9:45 PM  

"Surprise: the Muslim will immediately point to anti-Muslim violence in the Central African Republic, or something similar."

Where's the "anti-Muslim" violence in Sweden!?

http://10news.dk/malmo-sweden-after-36-bombs-in-2014-and-several-attacks-on-police-stations-streets-are-cordoned-off-to-protect-police-station-against-bombings/

Anonymous Too-Soon-ami January 12, 2015 9:48 PM  

For anyone who hasn't seen it yet, here's a link to rubberducky's Stupid Politician reference above.

Hey America, remember when you elected one of those to be your President? That was awesome, wasn't it.

Yeah.... they're just like us.

Anonymous Scintan January 12, 2015 9:49 PM  

So which troll is now posting under physphilmusic?

Anonymous physphilmusic January 12, 2015 9:58 PM  

You can reply to their argument by telling them that this is why they belong in Muslim lands and Europeans belong in European lands. Repatriation and Non-intervention.

It's not just a matter of arguing about immigration issues. I was arguing with Muslims living in Islamic countries. I used to hold it against Muslims as to why they don't unequivocally condemn terror attacks such as this one in France, and to a large extent still do. After all, what kind of human being would endorse shooting unarmed civilians in a time of peace? But it turns out that they have a long list of grievances about Western (more specifically, US) military meddling. Vox is right in that Christendom and Islam are destined to be locked in a large-scale conflict, but I've just come to realize that our hands are not completely clean in the matter. It's not exactly like WWII.

Blogger automatthew January 12, 2015 10:04 PM  

Scintan, physphilmusic has been commenting here for a long time. Or are you suggesting that someone is usurping the name?

Anonymous TUSigmaIan January 12, 2015 10:12 PM  

Vox, the way I read the article is that the 100,000 counter-protesters were the combined number of all counter-protesters throughout Germany versus the 25,000 at the PEGIDA rally in Dresden. (The numbers quoted in paragraph 14 sum to 99,000.) Typical leftist manipulation of the facts by the media to further their agenda. I don't know if there were PEGIDA rallies in other German cities, but if there were, the article conspicuously leaves them out.

Anonymous rubberducky January 12, 2015 10:24 PM  

physphilmusic, isn't what you observed easily explained by the dual and related concepts of collective guilt and of tribalism?

The Muslims aren't going to unequivocally condemn the terror attacks in France because, well, the French on one level had it coming. That's an assignation of collective guilt. And, of course they would have a long list of grievances against the Amercians, the most recent tribal foe. Unless, of course, their tribe was on the American payroll, in which case Viva Las Vegas. For today, at least.

You've got to stop positioning yourself as a flagellant. That wasn't a good idea even when it was cool. The real question is which side is more right, whose philosophy is superior. Then you pick your poison.

Blogger Rantor January 12, 2015 10:25 PM  

Some press saying 40,000 in Dresden marched with PEGIDA. Merkel has sadly betrayed Germany's Christian heritage in favor of a false god.

Blogger Bard January 12, 2015 10:25 PM  

I don't care what the Muslims may or may not think is justified Physphil. YOU said "I" can't argue the fact meaning you then agree that retaliation for collateral damage....err dead children...justifies hostage taking and murderous rampages. The muzzies are dogs. Spent much time in their countries have you?

Blogger Bard January 12, 2015 10:29 PM  

Well, if you live in Europe I suppose you have!

Anonymous Ives January 12, 2015 10:37 PM  

Psysphilmusic, in every conflict there are bad acts on both sides. But in the West we accept Muslims' right to exist. They don't recognize our right to exist how we want. Islam has been up to this for 1400 years. Whenever they list so called Christian crimes against Islam they never take a measured approach to the whole story. At the same time they demand that we act self reflective about their crimes. Muslims' attitudes toward us is pure hypocrisy.

Anonymous physphilmusic January 12, 2015 10:40 PM  

you then agree that retaliation for collateral damage....err dead children...justifies hostage taking and murderous rampages.

You're arguing like a feminist talking about rape. Nobody's arguing that anything "justifies" anything; rather, it's a natural and understandable reaction that someone who knows people who are killed by US drones are not going to have warm feelings towards the West.


Spent much time in their countries have you?

Yes, as a Christian minority in an actual, Muslim majority country. I thought it was self-evident that Muslims persecute Christians way more than the other way round, and it is still objectively true. But the West is not an innocent angelic entity, it has its own sins. I just hope the US would stop drone attacks and foreign incursions. Ron Paul said the same when he implied that 9/11 was essentially blowback against US foreign policy.

Anonymous rubberducky January 12, 2015 11:04 PM  

If anybody in today's West thinks that the West is sinless, I'd like to meet him. I'd like to ask him how he escaped the institutional download that, in fact, all sins begin and end in the West.

One of the frauds of multiculturalism is that it does sneak in the concept of sin and then assign it academically. The multiculti context is entirely uncritical of anything but Western Civilization. Take Hernan Cortes vs. the Aztecs. These Aztecs were pieces of work, being active slavers, oppressive tyrants over their own and surrounding peoples, and astonishingly eager practitioners of industrial human sacrifice. Let me give you an idea of the scope of the carnage. In the year 1487, the Aztecs sacrificed 80,400 people in the course of four days.

Cortes toppled Montezuma not with his own force of arms, but through recruitment of all the surrounding Aztec victims. Then he sought to replace the horrific worship of Aztec gods with Christianity. But you'd think it's a shame they aren't still cutting out the beating hearts of victims on the shores of that damned lake to this day. Only the Western man can do wrong. Only his cultural practices are suspect.

You see, the multicultural project is a rigged game. The goal is always to poison views of the West, always to sanctify the views of anybody else.

And it's all a damned web of deceit.

Forget this web of equivocation and moral relativism, physphilmusic. For one thing, if you need to be proven as white as snow before you allow action, then you can never act. For we all fallen. And for a second thing, that guy telling you that you need to be pure first, well chances are his hands are black as coal.

Anonymous Scintan January 12, 2015 11:06 PM  

Scintan, physphilmusic has been commenting here for a long time. Or are you suggesting that someone is usurping the name?

That's what I was thinking, but the followup makes it doubtful.

Anonymous Rhys January 12, 2015 11:30 PM  

physphilmusic has always been a leftist, but he is smarter than most trolls and claims to have actually read one of Vox's books.

Anyway, I heard about the demonstrations on the radio this morning in Australia and they said the counter protest had only 7,000 people. Have the media been inflating the numbers as the day goes on?

Anonymous Anon January 12, 2015 11:47 PM  

"One of the frauds of multiculturalism is that it does sneak in the concept of sin and then assign it academically."

"Forgiveness" too. Have you seen the new Charlie Hebdo front cover? The Leftard hypocrite North Koreans also throw around the same words. Leftard hypocrites ha and water is wet.

Blogger Harold January 13, 2015 12:48 AM  

Rubberducky, that was Guam that might tip over. Almost as silly as the congresscritter who wanted NASA to steer the Mars rover to where astronauts had planted the flag....

If Sarah Palin had said either of those two things- there would be a reminder in the MSM every single day.

Blogger Ken January 13, 2015 12:54 AM  

If I were the Muslims, I'd be looking at 25,000 Germans marching against my existence in their country and would then immediately move. Of course, no one ever learns from history...

Blogger James Higham January 13, 2015 12:54 AM  

The mood over here is quite on edge at the moment. Won't take much and yet it looks to be more theatre from the PTB orchestrating it.

Anonymous rho January 13, 2015 12:55 AM  

every time I see a non-Muslim try to convince a Muslim that his religion is more violent and less civilized than others, committing acts of terror in response to the slightest provocation, the Muslim will simply point to the thousands of innocent civilians killed by Western forces in the Middle East. Especially drone attacks in Pakistan, which regularly kill teens of people including children. I really can't argue with that fact, and lose all sense of moral high ground.

Non-Muslim: Your religion is violent, see how they killed these civilians?

Muslim: Oh? Look at these pictures of your culture dropping bombs on Muslim civilians.

Non-Muslim: Golly, you're right. My bad. Tell you what, let's agree that all Muslims go back to Muslim countries, and we'll stop dropping bombs. You're happy, we're happy.

Or as ZhukovG put it: You can reply to their argument by telling them that this is why they belong in Muslim lands and Europeans belong in European lands. Repatriation and Non-intervention.

(The Hebdo attacks had nothing to do with retribution for drone attacks. If the news reports are at all accurate, it was entirely about Hebdo insulting Mohammed/Islam. The events are not equivalent. But nothing bothers a Muslim more than suggesting that he should stay in a Muslim country, so you should never pass up a chance to do so.)

Anonymous The other skeptic January 13, 2015 1:03 AM  

State Department SpokesTard: We Are at War With People Who Want to Kill People in the Name of a Variety of Causes

Anonymous physphilmusic January 13, 2015 1:15 AM  

physphilmusic has always been a leftist, but he is smarter than most trolls and claims to have actually read one of Vox's books.


Very touching that somebody actually claims to be familiar with my political views although I only comment sporadically on this blog, but if we actually had a chance to talk at length, this is most certainly not true. It's thanks to Vox Day that I got introduced to anti-feminism, the Red Pill, HBD, anti-multiculturalism, and the alt-right in general. I agree with 80% of what Vox says. I spend most of my time commenting talking about the 20% (what's the use of just voicing your agreement?), which may make me seem more critical than my real views.

Anonymous physphilmusic January 13, 2015 1:25 AM  

That's right, rho, it's a good argument for repatriation, stopping mass immigration from the Muslim world, but ultimately it made me rethink my views that most Muslims must be evil since they refuse to harshly and unequivocally condemn Muslim terrorist attacks. (I'm talking not just about Muslim immigrants in the West, but Muslims in Muslim countries - where I've lived most of my life, as a Christian.) It's just a clash of civilizations thing. Of course, that doesn't make me less pissed when Muslims destroy our churches and imprison people for trying to spread the Gospel.

Blogger cowboy January 13, 2015 1:28 AM  

well i hope you have interpreted my dialogue with you as positive, physphilmusic. And I hope that what I have said hit some helpful registers with you.

I would like to hear the updates of your project to speak rationality to Muslims. I fear that success will elude you. I get the sense that you might fear the same thing.

We'll see. Best of luck.

Anonymous bw January 13, 2015 1:29 AM  

The "counter-demonstrators" are irrelevant.

Most likely led by, as usual, government agitators.
If so, .gov should never be termed "irrelevant".

Whites in the West are going to have to come to grips with the fact that the "war" is ultimately between whites and their differing values and belief systems. Will not go well until this fact is recognized for what it is, and will only go "well" if one specific side wins.

Anonymous Divide and Conquer January 13, 2015 1:51 AM  

And now they have found an enemy they are brave enough to take on – ordinary White people who dare question the elite immigration consensus. Across the continent phony conservatives are joining forces with the left to exclude the anti-immigration lobbies from the debate. Any democracy pretense (to include "the Law", politics, and media) has gone. It is all about power now.

Anonymous bw January 13, 2015 2:00 AM  

The real war is amongst Whites. That is the first and most important battleground and fight concerning the future that must be recognized and embraced.
Multi Culti is hardly going away with half of whites long embracing it as an identity and cultic, fundi religion.

Anonymous rho January 13, 2015 2:24 AM  

It's just a clash of civilizations thing. Of course, that doesn't make me less pissed when Muslims destroy our churches and imprison people for trying to spread the Gospel.

You misunderstand. I read your post as a troll. I don't want you in or near any church I would possibly attend.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar January 13, 2015 2:41 AM  

Now that all the parties have decided to become traitors against their real enemy the people, this should be over quickly. Courage is not really something you find in traitors. Patriots will fight for freedom and their race to the death, but mercenaries realize rather quickly that thirty pieces of silver are worthless when you're dead.

Anonymous jayb January 13, 2015 4:33 AM  

@Physphilmusic
You tell them that "Yes, indeed those drone strikes are evil. And those drones strikes were organised, paid for, and justified by the same people who encouraged Muslims to move to Western countries."

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus January 13, 2015 5:38 AM  

jayb: @Physphilmusic
You tell them that "Yes, indeed those drone strikes are evil. And those drones strikes were organised, paid for, and justified by the same people who encouraged Muslims to move to Western countries."


Ah, the daring "tell the truth!" option.

Anonymous Discard January 13, 2015 5:42 AM  

I can't really fault the Moslems for bombing and killing in the West. The blame lies with the Western elites who bomb their homelands and invite them here. We've killed a lot more of them than they have killed us.

Anonymous zen0 January 13, 2015 6:37 AM  

The muslims are pissed that this Western droning has interrupted their traditional pastime of killing each other. I must now rend my clothes and dump ashes upon my head. The West should go back to a containment strategy, and whoever shows me a picture of a burka-clad woman being shot in the head for getting raped, and says we should do something, will be flogged unmercifully.



PESHAWAR, Pakistan — As Pakistani Taliban gunmen strode through the corridors and classrooms of the Army Public School on Tuesday, spraying teachers and pupils with bullets, one paused from his grisly work to make a phone call.

“We have killed all of the children in the auditorium,” the militant, later identified by the military as Abuzar, told his handler. “What do we do now?”

“Wait for the army to arrive,” came the reply. “Kill them, then blow yourself up.”


(He forgot to say "Bitchez" at the end......hah!)

Blogger Gunnar von Cowtown January 13, 2015 7:50 AM  

I find Angela Merkel's statements confusing at best.

Anybody else remember this article from 2010?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/oct/17/angela-merkel-germany-multiculturalism-failures

"Angela Merkel declares death of German multiculturalism.
Chancellor's remarks, which claimed multiculturalism had 'failed utterly', interpreted as a shift rightwards from previous views."


Chancellor Angela Merkel has declared the death of multiculturalism in Germany, saying that it had "failed utterly" , in what has been interpreted as a startling shift from her previous views. The German leader said it had been an illusion to think that Germans and foreign workers could "live happily side by side".


IIRC, it was kind of a big deal at the time. I vividly remember thinking, "I sure wish we could get direct speech like that out of our politicians." It really sounded like she was waking up and seeing the stark reality. Does anyone close to Deutschland know why instead of following that idea through to its logical conclusion, she instead doubled down on Muslim immigration?

What the hell happened?

Blogger Rek. January 13, 2015 9:19 AM  

@ Gunnar

If I remember correctly she said that just about at the same time when Thilo Sarrazin came out with his book "Deutschland Schafft sich ab" or shortly thereafter. Typical political communication stunt.

Blogger RBooster Man January 13, 2015 10:09 AM  

"State Department SpokesTard: We are at war with people who want to kill people in the name of a variety of causes"

Ahh! The "wisdom" of Pindostan speaks!

Anonymous Porky January 13, 2015 10:35 AM  

Does anyone close to Deutschland know why instead of following that idea through to its logical conclusion, she instead doubled down on Muslim immigration?

What the hell happened?


Folgen Sie dem Geld.

Blogger Gunnar von Cowtown January 13, 2015 10:52 AM  

@Rek and Porky.

Got it. Thanks, guys.

Anonymous physphilmusic January 13, 2015 3:35 PM  

I don't want you in or near any church I would possibly attend.

Unfortunately, that would greatly decrease the choice of churches you could possibly attend, given that I don't attend liberal or leftist churches, and am more theologically conservative than Vox Day. It's quite screwed-up that you're dismissing an honest concern as "trolling". I'm not talking about complaints about historical Western imperialism or slavery, things which the Left has indeed fixated upon to the exclusion of everyone else's historical sins. I'm talking about the things that the US is doing right now in the Middle East in Islamic countries. I didn't get this argument from leftists. I got it from Muslims themselves and also from people like Ron Paul, who has been pushing for foreign non-intervention for a long time (and I know about Ron Paul from Vox Day's blog, btw). I suppose if you regard Ron Paul as a troll, too, then, there's nothing much more I can say. ZhukovG and others can talk about "let them go back to their countries and we'll stop bombing all they want them", but the fact is that the US is not stopping covert foreign operations in the Middle East any time soon, just as it's not going to significantly alter its immigration policy. As long as that remains the status quo the Muslims have a club to hit us with.

Anonymous Greg January 14, 2015 2:25 AM  

"Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil" - Thomas Mann

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