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Thursday, January 15, 2015

See, THAT is why they hate you

A Jewish woman in Britain worried about anti-semitism in the UK inadvertently demonstrates one reason many decent individuals in Britain are increasingly inclined to dislike the Jews in their midst:
There may be only 260,000 of us in the UK but if we don’t lead, how can the rest of society follow?
It's just so hard to imagine why so many of the 64 million people in the UK might not want this woman living among them and so graciously deigning to lead them. I wouldn't be at all surprised if most of them would now like to punch her in the face.

"If we don’t lead, how can the rest of society follow?" How indeed. Pat Buchanan asked a pertinent question in his article on Unz: "Muslims in the banlieues wonder why insulting the Prophet is a protected freedom in France, while denying the Holocaust can get you a prison term."

Speaking of the Islamic banlieues, across the English Channel the failure of French diversity and multiculturalism is highlighted by the reaction in them to the ridiculous "unity" march meant to defend the tottering status quo:
The sense of marginalization did not disappear with the massive solidarity march across Paris on Sunday, which drew more than one million people and 40 presidents and prime ministers to Mr. Hollande’s side. For some banlieue residents, it seemed an almost surreal display that had nothing to do with them.

In Vaulx-en-Velin, the only Charlie reference to be seen was a sign for the Charlie Chaplin cultural center across the street from City Hall, which is topped with a drawing of a flag of its sister city, the West Bank town of Beit Sahour.

Residents there ridiculed the “I am Charlie” marches. Some said the terrorist attacks had been staged. While many strongly condemned the attackers for the murders, others insisted the cartoonists had gotten what they deserved....

“I totally feel cut off from France,” said Karim Yahiaoui, 15, who added that he had not left this suburb more than twice in the past year. Over the past few decades, the Muslim community in Vaulx-en-Velin has become increasingly insular. “Many people only believe their own values now, not those of the republic,” said Anne Dufaud, director of the Mission, a nonprofit organization. She has worked in the community for 20 years. When Mr. Hollande led a moment of silence across France last Thursday for the victims of the attacks, two students and a teacher at a local high school, who declined to be identified, said many students refused to stand.

Patrick Kahn, a manager at the International League Against Racism and Anti-Semitism in Lyon, who operates a weekly tolerance program in the schools of Vaulx-en-Velin, said simply, “The integration policy failed.”
Integration has failed. Diversity has failed. Multiculturalism has failed. What options does that leave?

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Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus January 15, 2015 8:25 AM  

I totally feel cut off from France,” said Karim Yahiaoui, 15, who added that he had not left this suburb more than twice in the past year.

Well, if you feel that way, then feel free to go back to whatever North African rathole you and your family came from.

Anonymous dark January 15, 2015 8:28 AM  

They have new rat holes now that they will need to be removed from

Blogger Gunnar von Cowtown January 15, 2015 8:29 AM  

There may be only 260,000 of us in the UK but if we don’t lead, how can the rest of society follow?"

This must be the equivalent of how "triggered" leftists feel all the time.

Wow.... just wow.

I can't even....

Anonymous PA January 15, 2015 8:35 AM  

"I totally feel cut off from France,”

That's better than assimilation or integration, if the genocide plan is intended as a two-phase 'diversity/ blending' project.

Anonymous j January 15, 2015 8:36 AM  

>“I totally feel cut off from France,” said Karim Yahiaoui

Yeah, Karim, that's because you never had any connection to France to begin with. Your parents were parasites who abandoned the sinking ship of their own shit-hole country and latched on to a thriving nation so they could suck off its teat. And now they want to reshape France to more resemble the backwards Islamic theocracy they crawled out of.

Anonymous Storm Saxon's Gall Bladder January 15, 2015 8:39 AM  

Sounds like she is primarily a socialist tool and jewish as a distant second. Every leftists identifies as some minority group but they are always willing to sell out that group for the global totalitarian goal. Feminists and gays support izzlamic prayer calls from the chapel at Duke university because being feminist, gay or jewish is just a convenient label for feeling special and separate from the unenlightened peasantry.

OpenID cailcorishev January 15, 2015 8:41 AM  

There may be only 260,000 of us in the UK but if we don’t lead, how can the rest of society follow?

Yeah, I just can't figure out where that stereotype of arrogance and superiority comes from.

Anonymous Salt January 15, 2015 8:43 AM  

One of Europe’s most prominent Jewish organizations is petitioning the European Union to pass new legislation that would permit Jewish community members to carry guns “for the essential protection of their communities,”

Not unreasonable. But, of course, the EU being so disarmed it has zero chance of happening.

Anonymous DJF January 15, 2015 8:45 AM  

This shows how second generation immigrants can be more dangerous then first generation. The first generation at least had to make a decision to come to a new country and so has some responsibility for being there. The second generation were given no chance for a decision and when they find they don't connect with the new country will often move toward their own culture or pick up the culture of the underclass in their new country. Neither is good for the host country

Anonymous Alexander January 15, 2015 8:47 AM  

Did Lee Rigby's killing make her blood run cold? If not, why did four Jews in a foreign country prompt this reaction?

Unless - and I suppose I'm another 'anti-semite' here, her loyalty is less to the "British" part of her self-identity and more to the "Jew" part.

Like I said yesterday - never feel so anti-semitic as when I'm reading an article in the western press, about how tough things are for the Jews.


Highly semantic arguments about heritage, morality, and personal feelings of citizenship towards countries that aren't Israel in 3...2...

Anonymous Alexander January 15, 2015 8:48 AM  

Guns for me but not for thee.

Blogger Tank January 15, 2015 8:52 AM  

This woman illustrates the opposite of my philosophy for us Jews.

if we wish to live in Christian lands, we should STFU and live as they do.

Anonymous PA January 15, 2015 8:55 AM  

-- "being feminist, gay or jewish is just a convenient label for feeling special and separate from the unenlightened peasantry."

This does point to a fundamental issue of identity that has been dominant in the West for decades now: you're either an undifferentiated white, or you have an identity.

Everybody wants to have an identity. We're not human without it. The problem with the default liberal construction is that White is not an identity... it's a background quality, it's water in which the fish -- people differentiated by an identity -- swim. If you're 'white', then at best you're a habitat for everyone else: either a good habitat if you're liberal or a bad habitat if you're a racist. Either way, you are not human; you are a medium in which 'actual' humans live.

This is why young whites, or whites of liberal pretensions, desperately seek an alternate identity.

Since an identity is a basic human psychological need, these whites grasp for something, anything. And since most people are conformist, that something will be picked from a liberal-approved list.

Especially since 'American' is now meaningless, some version of European-American is unapproved, and most Americans are a mix of nationalities so they can't claim Irish, for example.

The solution is to nomaluze the identity tbat most of us here quietly claim for ourselves.

Anonymous PA January 15, 2015 9:01 AM  

"if we don’t lead, how can the rest of society follow?"

Reactionary thought very much allows for the notion that some peoples are natural leaders, so I wouldn't dismiss that quote prima facie.

However, in this case we see a claim on leadership from a member of a group whose track-record as leaders of nations is disastrous.

Blogger Carnivore January 15, 2015 9:05 AM  

Meanwhile, in the USA - Muslim call to prayer to sound from Duke University chapel:

“This opportunity represents a larger commitment to religious pluralism that is at the heart of Duke’s mission,” added Christy Lohr Sapp, the chapel’s associate dean for religious life. “It connects the university to national trends in religious accommodation.”

https://today.duke.edu/2015/01/adhanannouncement

Anonymous Roundtine January 15, 2015 9:10 AM  

Le Pen is #1 in the polls now, and she wins the run-off as long as its against a leftist.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey January 15, 2015 9:13 AM  

The failure of integration is a good thing, if the goal is to deport or eradicate alien populations.

The integration and apparent assimilation of chosenite individuals, many of whom are directly responsible for imposing immigrationist and multikultural policies on France, is a much more insidious thing.

Anonymous Jeigh Di January 15, 2015 9:17 AM  

There are three Jews and six Roman Catholics on the Supreme Court. Can't help wondering what would be different if there were some Protestants.

Anonymous paradox January 15, 2015 9:26 AM  

Emma hasn't assimilated into European Culture, here own words prove it.

"While I was stunned and enraged by the murders of the Charlie Hebdo cartoonists and writers – both as a journalist and citizen – it was the murder of my fellow Jews that left me feeling personally exposed."

Anonymous Daniel January 15, 2015 9:26 AM  

"If we don't lead, how can the rest of society follow?"

Who does she think she is? Helmut Doork?

Anonymous An Israeli January 15, 2015 9:27 AM  

VD,

I feel that you partially misstated this woman's position. This is the entire paragraph she wrote:

Jews themselves, who are on the whole brilliant at assimilating, need to get better at publicly calling out anti-Semitism – instead of trying to distance themselves from the problem in embarrassment. My husband, for instance, wasn’t sure about me writing this column – fearing the backlash. There may be only 260,000 of us in the UK but if we don’t lead, how can the rest of society follow?

It seems to me that she was talking about Jews leading the fight against anti-semitism, and not leading in any other way.

As far as France goes, here is a column that I read today on the matter:

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/international/229068-a-two-state-solution-for-france

Anonymous Samuel Scott January 15, 2015 9:32 AM  

An Israel -- this Israeli was also just about to point that out too.

OpenID cailcorishev January 15, 2015 9:38 AM  

There are three Jews and six Roman Catholics on the Supreme Court. Can't help wondering what would be different if there were some Protestants.

Or some real Catholics. But I'd be fine with 9 real Protestants.

Anonymous Alexander January 15, 2015 9:44 AM  

1. Who gives two shits about you leading us on anything. What right do you have to come into a country and say, "oh, this is how you have to view us from now on." Piss off.

2. She's either lying or completely blind to reality regarding "Jews are brilliant at assimilating". I would be willing to bet she's either lying or blind to reality about Jews only wanting to lead *in this particular case*.

And not that what she wants to do is have *more* nagging Jews monitoring and calling out (and presumably, punishing) Brits for their behavior in their own country.

So I say it again, piss off.

Blogger Chris Mallory January 15, 2015 9:46 AM  

"It seems to me that she was talking about Jews leading the fight against anti-semitism, and not leading in any other way."

Even "leading" in that way is offensive. Instead of calling out "anti-semitism", change your behaviors that cause it. But we know a leopard can't change it's spots or a tiger it's stripes.

Anonymous Viidad January 15, 2015 9:47 AM  

@cailcorishev

Heck, I'd be satisfied with 9 randomly chosen Americans. They'd do better.

Blogger Joshua Dyal January 15, 2015 9:50 AM  

@An Israeli: The notion that Jews are brilliant at assimilating is somewhat risible, given that they have maintained a separate identity in every country in which they've lived, for the most part. I know a few notable exceptions: and Sheila's post in the other thread from a few days ago would show a Jew who is actually brilliant at assimilating.

And it still fails to address the fact that, for instance, "saying that Jews seem to chase money more than other Britons" or "Jews bring up the Holocaust too much in an attempt to gin up sympathy" are not anti-Semitic comments in any meaningful sense. If that's what she intends to lead; fighting that kind of fake anti-Semitism, she's going to do more harm than good.

Blogger Cogitans Iuvenis January 15, 2015 10:00 AM  

There are three Jews and six Roman Catholics on the Supreme Court. Can't help wondering what would be different if there were some Protestants.

I think it far more prudent that you focus on which Law school they come from...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_law_schools_attended_by_United_States_Supreme_Court_Justices

Anonymous The other skeptic January 15, 2015 10:05 AM  

The Pope says there are limits to free expression.

Is he secretly a gay mooselimb?

OpenID cailcorishev January 15, 2015 10:05 AM  

The notion that Jews are brilliant at assimilating is somewhat risible, given that they have maintained a separate identity in every country in which they've lived, for the most part.

An alternate title for the Old Testament could be: Jews Don't Assimilate.

Anonymous zen0 January 15, 2015 10:15 AM  

As long as there are Jewish people who regard their role as "a light unto the nations" and focus on their responsibility to "fix the world" while rejecting the warrant for such statements, there will be blood.

Anonymous Soga January 15, 2015 10:16 AM  

My husband, for instance, wasn’t sure about me writing this column – fearing the backlash.

Jewish AND woman. Naturally, she dismisses her husband's prudent instinct.

She doesn't only want a small minority, Jews, to lead the rest of society. She wants to lead her husband too.

Take notes, Jews and women. This is WHAT NOT to do if you want a good, solid future for yourself, loved ones (including husband), and your children and their children.

Anonymous Cryan Ryan January 15, 2015 10:17 AM  

The poster who suggested her quote was out of context may have a point.

Ms. Barnett may have meant Jews must lead on the anti-Semitic rhetoric.

However, what I found interesting was her description of how the recent events made her feel.

a) her blood ran cold
b) her hands started sweating
c) she was dazed
d) she shed a silent tear
e) she was anxious and bewildered
f) she was stunned and enraged
g) she felt exposed
h) she felt unease

Once she 'splained how she felt, she spent the rest of the article telling us how other people felt.

I've always wondered - if Jews were all herded into one country - the competition would be fierce - how would people create & accumulate wealth without being able to hire the dull witted non-Jew laborers?

Isn't this what it's all about in a nutshell? The very capable Jews spread out among their dull witted neighbors, organize, put companies together, open shops, and hire the local dumbasses to clean the toilets and stand behind the cash register for minimum wage?

And don't they tend to take control of the media in order to influence the thinking of the masses, to their own advantage?

Someone 'splain that it isn't so.

Anonymous Salt January 15, 2015 10:17 AM  

A pox on Duke. I love it everytime the Blue Devils lose.

Blogger rondolf January 15, 2015 10:17 AM  

"Integration has failed. Diversity has failed. Multiculturalism has failed. What options does that leave?"

VD, is it possible Obama is operating from the same premise, just from the opposite side.

OpenID cailcorishev January 15, 2015 10:17 AM  

Heck, I'd be satisfied with 9 randomly chosen Americans. They'd do better.

Agreed. Although in retrospect, I probably wasn't fair to Scalia, and maybe Thomas. But the rest are worthless, and Obama's Catholics were specifically chosen for their apostasy.

Anonymous Will Best January 15, 2015 10:19 AM  

Whether something succeeds or not doesn't matter as long as it makes us feel good about ourselves.

Heck, I'd be satisfied with 9 randomly chosen Americans. They'd do better.

I would like them to at least have a high school education. Scratch that. A HS diploma is too random anymore. I would want them to be able to read the Federalist papers for comprehension

Anonymous Noah B. January 15, 2015 10:20 AM  

Whether or not this particular woman's comments were taken out of context, there still seem to be an inordinate number of Jews who see themselves as deserving of more rights and privileges than everyone else. This is reflected in the duplicitous anti-rights efforts of those in the US who wish to impose more gun control on the people, while those who advocate disarmament instead remain armed. And this call to give special permission for Jews in Europe to be armed -- while ignoring the rights of everyone else -- fits nicely into that pattern.

Blogger rycamor January 15, 2015 10:20 AM  

One thing Jews do better than Protestants: histrionics and rhetorical hand-wringing, of the type that sways emotional thinkers. Look at her spin:

When I heard the news that four Jews had been murdered last week on European soil by an Islamist gun-toting terrorist, my blood ran cold; my hands started sweating. Dazed, I found myself in the work toilets shedding a silent tear. And then I realised why I needed to be alone: I felt scared.

A completely inane formulation of words from top to bottom, yet you know that 95% of the women and at least 50% of the men (of the undescended-testicle variety) were nodding their heads and clucking in sympathy while reading this.

Then she does the appeal to authority, again exactly the sort of thing aimed at the rabbitoid population:

Except it isn’t. A new working definition of anti-Semitism, by the European Union Monitoring Centre on Racism and Xenophobia (EUMC), now includes “drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis”, and “holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel”.

Oh good, the definition of anti-semitism is being redefined to be more inclusive, but that's OK because it's *official*.

And Jews have never collectively held anyone responsible for anything? What on earth is this article itself?

(It does, incidentally also state that “criticism of Israel similar to that levelled against any other country cannot be regarded as anti-Semitic”, which I wholeheartedly agree with along with thousands of Israelis.)

My that does bring a chuckle to the throat.

Listen: Jews living in Christian lands have had it better than Jews living pretty much anywhere else. In fact, Christians don't even mind it when Jews don't assimilate. We do respect your traditions and even hold you in high regard for that. It's when you start trying to change US that the problems arise. Just look at this article, and think about how the words are being used. Anyone can see that Jews have an unmatched lust for power and a very long tradition of using words as weapons (especially weapons of misdirection) in order to slake this lust.

What Jews really don't seem to understand is that the core European Christian ethos is not of a lust for power, but a desire to be left alone to pursue one's life in dignity. Westerners who rise to power are always at odds with this ethos, but the ethos itself is what allows their power. Most of us are just willing to put up with the powerful as long as we are left alone in our private lives. This would explain why Jews are drastically over-represented among the Western elite. Most of us really aren't striving for power. Simple as that.

This also explains why Western man will put up and put up and put up, until suddenly he has had enough, and then... boom. We really do want to be left alone, and if you keep pestering us, it will end badly.

Blogger rondolf January 15, 2015 10:21 AM  

I should have used the word probable instead of 'possible'.

Anonymous Alexander January 15, 2015 10:21 AM  

Yes well, that's the immigration argument on the micro level.

For the price of maaaaaaybe two good guys, you've got to take seven confirmed assholes.

Anonymous Culture War Draftee January 15, 2015 10:22 AM  

You can't say Muslims don't participate in social institutions outside the banlieues in France. They have contributed about 60% to France's prison population despite being 20% of the population.
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/1/11/the-radicalizationofmuslimsinfrenchprisons.html

In UK they make up 13.1% of prisoners despite being 4% of the total according to a parliamentary report. Some old numbers from the Washington Post show similar results: Netherlands 20% prison, 5.5% general & Belgium 16% prison, 2% general.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/28/AR2008042802560.html

Maybe France should run prisons under Sharia law? I bet the cons would just love that.

Blogger Jordan179 January 15, 2015 10:22 AM  

Self-selective effect on the assimilation. Jews who assimilate are unnoticeable, because being Jewish is more cultural than genetic.

Take myself. I'm half-Jewish by birth, raised by a fully Jewish (but Reform Jewish) couple. If you come from an area where there a lot of Jews, my Jewish descent is just barely noticeable. (I have the pale skin and big nose).

If I have children by my wife (who is mostly of Scots descent) they will not look very Jewish at all. Since I'm not a practicing Jew, they will be raised either Catholic or generic Protestant (the two faiths of her family). They would know of their Jewish heritage mostly because I'd tell them about growing up Jewish in the Bronx in the 1970's-1980's.

Their children wouldn't look or be culturally Jewish. So when people thought "assimilated Jews," they would not think of them.

See?

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus January 15, 2015 10:24 AM  

Jews are going to be resented because of their leading role, but without that leading role, and without that transformation, Europe will not survive.

Anonymous DrTorch January 15, 2015 10:24 AM  

Thanks An Israeli, that's a good point.

Or some real Catholics.

Oh they're real RCs. RCs love central control and tyranny.

Anonymous Porky January 15, 2015 10:30 AM  

My daughter brought home this little ditty from public school.

The world is a rainbow
That's filled with many colors:
Yellow, black, and white, and brown,
You see them all around.


The world is a rainbow
With many kinds of people;
It takes all kinds of people
To make the world go round.


Now you be you
And I'll be me.
That's the way we were meant to be.
But the world is a mixing cup.
Just look what happens when you stir it up!


The world is a rainbow
With many kinds of people;
And when we work together
It's such a sight to see.
The world is beautiful when we live in harmony!


Anonymous zen0 January 15, 2015 10:36 AM  

> But the world is a mixing cup.
Just look what happens when you stir it up! ♫

Mud?

Anonymous Tryptophan January 15, 2015 10:38 AM  

"There may be only 260,000 of us in the UK but if we don’t lead, how can the rest of society follow?"

Would we be angry if a white south african said something similar, or would we just agree that it was realism and that white south africans are naturally going to be leaders in business and politics?

If we are race realists we shouldn't fake outrage like leftists when a Jew implies that they might be natural leaders in western europe.

For the record I'm not Jewish, disbelieve me if you like.

Blogger Cogitans Iuvenis January 15, 2015 10:38 AM  

Oh they're real RCs. RCs love central control and tyranny.

Better notify the French and Irish then and let them know that their revolution was contrary to their religious nature so that France can reinstate the Bourbon monarchy and the Irish beg their pardons of the British crown.

Blogger Bob Wallace January 15, 2015 10:38 AM  

"There may be only 260,000 of us in the UK but if we don’t lead, how can the rest of society follow?"

I recently asked a man if he would rather live under whites...or Jews, Muslims, blacks, Asians or Mexicans.

After all, they're the ones pouring into white cultures, not the only way around.

Anonymous bw January 15, 2015 10:41 AM  

They are parasitic, phony Hebrews and are of their father the devil, as Someone noted.

This is the high water mark of these arrogant, foul, wicked people in the West, enabled by their ignorant, unaware, self-loathing hosts themselves. Racial Reality time.

Never Again.

Blogger Mindstorm January 15, 2015 10:43 AM  

"There may be only 260,000 of us in the UK but if we don’t lead, how can the rest of society follow?"

She might try to demonstrate how it's impossible for them to be wrong. Until then, I would like to laugh in her face instead.

Anonymous karsten January 15, 2015 10:49 AM  

"Even 'leading' in that way is offensive. Instead of calling out 'anti-semitism,' change your behaviors that cause it. But we know a leopard can't change it's spots or a tiger it's stripes."

Exactly. "Leading" that was is especially offensive -- and toxic to the host culture.

Anonymous zen0 January 15, 2015 10:51 AM  

It seems to me that she was talking about Jews leading the fight against anti-semitism, and not leading in any other way.

Like they don't already? That is kind of disingenuous on her part. I think she just wanted to emote to the crowd. She could not make it to the fake "vanguard of the march" at the parade. Has she not heard of the JDL of the UK? That is their whole schtick.

Anonymous Stilicho January 15, 2015 10:56 AM  

The Pope says there are limits to free expression.

Is he secretly a gay mooselimb?


Nah, this one is just a run of the mill socialist/internationalist using the RCC to spread his political faith. One thing I've noticed about RC's in the USA is that many of them felt a renewed pride in their church and became closer to their faith when JPII was Pope, but, with Francis, they mostly shake their heads in disbelief at his public statements.

Jews themselves, who are on the whole brilliant at assimilating, need to get better at publicly calling out anti-Semitism

[laughs] Does she mean the group of people known best for maintaining their separate identity, culture, and religion throughout history and throughout the world? Oy. Does she also mean the group of people who are known worldwide for labeling criticism of themselves, their tribe, or the state of Israel as anti-semitism? Oy vey!

Look, she's right to be worried and she's right to speak up against Islam, but she's either a damned fool or a liar for pretending that Jews are shrinking violets who need to learn how to look out for themselves.

Anonymous Alexander January 15, 2015 10:57 AM  

Tryptophan,

You'll forgive me for pointing out the Western Europe has and had a highly developed culture, while since England has left Nigeria it's population has increased five fold while it's agricultural output has declined. Or, you know, Zimbabwe.

Now frankly, if the Africans are fine with that level of productivity loss and the Malthusian trap it represents, that is there business. On the other hand, they're very eager to ship up their citizenry and have us come over and risk ebola infection to help them out, so maybe they don't actually want 'independence' at all.

Either way, their business.

But it's risible to compare on the basis of *necessity*, or even *value* in a Jew ruling Englishman versus an Englishman ruling a Bantu.

Anonymous karsten January 15, 2015 11:01 AM  

"Would we be angry if a white south african said something similar, or would we just agree that it was realism and that white south africans are naturally going to be leaders in business and politics?

"If we are race realists we shouldn't fake outrage like leftists when a Jew implies that they might be natural leaders in western europe."


Excuse me? You're slotting white Europeans -- the people who gave us Shakespeare and Goethe and Newton -- into the role of negroes, and propping up a bunch of self-serving shopkeepers and professional swindlers as their masters?

Wow, have you ever been duped by Judaic propaganda -- a devious underclass pretends that it's "superior," and you buy their opportunistic PR, hook line and sinker.

Fortunately, a goodly number of whites are NOT as imbecilic as you apparently are. (But actually, I'm skeptical that you're not Hasbra yourself.)

Anonymous Viidad January 15, 2015 11:01 AM  

@Porky

I'm surprised they left "white" in the song. So, so sad to see "red" absent.

And WTF is your daughter doing in public school?

Anonymous VD January 15, 2015 11:03 AM  

It seems to me that she was talking about Jews leading the fight against anti-semitism, and not leading in any other way.

I suggest you look at who is presently leading the Labour Party (presumably to electoral disaster, but still), before you leap to any such assumptions. That was the context in what she was speaking, but that was not the extent to which she believes that Jews should be leading Great Britain.

Combine that with the claim of the French Jews to be given gun rights no one else possesses, and it is futile to claim that the French and British Jews consider themselves to be just normal French and British citizens.

Prior to staking any such leadership claim, particularly one based on divine right, they would have been wise to observe that these are both nations that beheaded kings they did not wish to lead them.

Anonymous VD January 15, 2015 11:05 AM  

If we are race realists we shouldn't fake outrage like leftists when a Jew implies that they might be natural leaders in western europe.

They are not. And I would think Western Europeans have made it abundantly clear that they will kill them if they try to impose any such "natural leadership". It wasn't just the Germans who wanted them out.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 15, 2015 11:14 AM  

An Israeli

It seems to me that she was talking about Jews leading the fight against anti-semitism, and not leading in any other way.


Ok, let's consider that. Isn't she saying that the average Briton is just too thick, or too stupid, or too prejudiced to figure out after 60-odd years of endless lessons about the Holocaust that anti-Semitism is bad?

Seems rather condescending at the very least. Sort of the attitude that a schoolmistress would take towards her pupils, not at all what the citizen of a nation would express towards other, equal citizens.

What exactly is it that makes an English Jew more qualified to teach or even talk about anti-Semitism than the ordinary English citizen? Is there some special knowledge that English Jews have that others don't have? If so, what is it? "The Jewish experience"?

In light of these questions, that I frankly do not expect you or Samuel to even attempt to answer, consider one more: why do so many English citizens seem to find their Jewish neighbors to be arrogant?

Anonymous Porky January 15, 2015 11:21 AM  

So, so sad to see "red" absent.

Don't worry. They make up for it on Thanksgiving.

And WTF is your daughter doing in public school?

She not anymore. We be teach her our own selfs at our crib.

Anonymous bw January 15, 2015 11:21 AM  

@TDT

Almost posted that myself, for the umpteenth time.
By the way, that's a fascinating Back Pyramid/Sun symbolism they march right past in the backgound there, before they halt and "stand on the square", being the first thing (the profane) military recruits are trained to do.

C'mon, you're just Goyim. Let it flow over you. Embrace the demise of you, your property and your beliefs, and that of your offspring and people. That special, unquestionable status is reserved for that peculiar people and that particular special interest group, vastly overrepresented for some strange reason in the halls of power and influence. You're no Sassoon, son!

..the Jews regard as profane all that we hold sacred, while permitting all we abhor - Tacitus, The Histories

Anonymous PA January 15, 2015 11:33 AM  

"Would we be angry if a white south african said something similar"

I addressed that upstream in an early comment. Begins with something like "...reactionary thought..."

Blogger Jordan179 January 15, 2015 11:35 AM  

The Western Europeans killed themselves right out of the race for world leadership in 1914-45. The massacre of the European Jews gutted their own creative minorities; America and Israel were the principal beneficiaries of the stream of highly-talented demonstrated-survivor refugees thus created. In consequence, Europe is today struggling to survive, when a mere 80 years ago, the question was whether or not the rest of the world would be able to retain any of its culture, faced with the European impact.

Anonymous bw January 15, 2015 11:37 AM  

My daughter brought home this little ditty from public school.

The Corporate "free trade" globalists in the form of Coca-Cola had the propaganda covered 44 years ago

Anonymous Cryan Ryan January 15, 2015 11:37 AM  

Anyone who wonders how Jews could be found undesirable should do a quick read of the takeover of Postville, Iowa a few years back.

For years it was mostly productive German farmers in the area. Clean, quiet, crime free.

Jews moved in, developed a large filthy meat processing plant, took over every aspect of the town, hired hundreds of illegal mexicans, blacks, and other cheap labor, and finally the whole stinking mess collapsed in bankruptcy and lawsuits.

The Jews then moved on, leaving the water table contaminated, hundreds of unpaid vendors holding the bag, rental units full of unemployed minorites, and turning the local population into anti-semites.

When you go into every native population, spread shit around and then leave, don't be surprised when you get run out of town on a fucking rail.

Anonymous Bah January 15, 2015 11:44 AM  

The Western Europeans killed themselves right out of the race for world leadership in 1914-45. The massacre of the European Jews gutted their own creative minorities;

Oh fuck off. The Jews of Lodz and Vilno were not the creative force that kept Europe in a position of world leadership.

Blogger Brad Andrews January 15, 2015 11:45 AM  

VD,

You may not favor the Labour party, but taking a quote out of context to reinforce that point is pretty bad. It is the same thing the MSM does against those they dislike. They often justify their misrepresentations by the very same logic.

She may have wrong views, but her statement is more like "why should anyone else stand up for us if we won't stand up for ourselves." Wouldn't all of you hold others to that same standard? Don't let your opposition of one thing lead to false conclusions on another.

It may be completely appropriate to dispute her claims of anti-Semitism, but do so for that, not a misused quote about wanting to lead.

Anonymous VD January 15, 2015 11:45 AM  

The massacre of the European Jews gutted their own creative minorities; America and Israel were the principal beneficiaries of the stream of highly-talented demonstrated-survivor refugees thus created.

Israel, yes. America? Look around you....

OpenID cailcorishev January 15, 2015 11:46 AM  

....but, with Francis, they mostly shake their heads in disbelief at his public statements.

It's going to be a long papacy, with lots of cringing and trying to explain to friends the strict limits on papal infallibility.

Blogger John Wright January 15, 2015 11:48 AM  

Actually, the comment you quote reads, in context: "Jews themselves, who are on the whole brilliant at assimilating, need to get better at publicly calling out anti-Semitism – instead of trying to distance themselves from the problem in embarrassment. My husband, for instance, wasn’t sure about me writing this column – fearing the backlash. There may be only 260,000 of us in the UK but if we don’t lead, how can the rest of society follow?"

In other words, the writer is speaking only about one thing: leading the public call against antisemitism.

Her rhetorical question is actually quite sensible. She is asking why Jews should wait for non-Jews to lead the call against anti-Jewish sentiment. She is asking why her people are expecting anyone to protect them if they will not protect themselves.

For you to misread and misrepresent the comments in this fashion is inexcusable.

Anonymous Bah January 15, 2015 11:53 AM  

If we are race realists we shouldn't fake outrage like leftists when a Jew implies that they might be natural leaders in western europe.

Well gee if "leader" is predefined as "a Leftist who did well on standardized tests and attended an elite institution" then they might be natural leaders.

But the "leadership" of such creatures, Jewish or gentile, has been a disaster everywhere it has been tried -- Europe, Russia, China, the USA...

Anonymous Sheila January 15, 2015 11:55 AM  

What a vile woman. While I cannot know how I would react in a crisis situation (read of an interesting "re-enactment" done here in Texas of the Charlie Hebdo situation and only two of the group of volunteers even managed to shoot one Muslim - notably, the sole woman ran away!), my first thought upon reading about various attacks (primarily black on White in the US) is not running to the loo to cry - rather that I would like to be invisible (i.e. no state sponsored blowback) and have a machine gun. Seriously.

Jordan 179 - why would you need or want to explain to your future children what it was like to grow up as Jew in the Bronx? I'm going to come across as a special snowflake again, but in every other "mixed" Jewish/Christian marriage I know of or have read of or have heard of, the putative nonpracticing or agnostic Jew suddenly finds that it's vitally important to him that his children know of their Jewish heritage. WHY? My children know I'm genetically Jewish, and that's the extent of it. Since both went to Christian schools, they hardly know any Jews. The single time I've been to a synagogue in the past 30 years was for a children's singer my older son liked when he was 3 and 4, and that was the only locale she was performing at. It was a miserable experience, and we just stared incredulously, along with the other Christian couple there we knew, at all the clueless Jews making noise, refusing to sit down, and urging their children to go on stage while the singer pleaded with parents NOT to do so.

Anonymous Surly January 15, 2015 12:00 PM  

"When I heard the news that four Jews had been murdered last week on European soil by an Islamist gun-toting terrorist, my blood ran cold; my hands started sweating. Dazed, I found myself in the work toilets shedding a silent tear. And then I realised why I needed to be alone: I felt scared."

Reminds me of Moses' warning to Israel in Deuteronomy 28:63-67.

63 And it shall come to pass, that as the Lord rejoiced over you to do you good, and to multiply you; so the Lord will rejoice over you to destroy you, and to bring you to nought; and ye shall be plucked from off the land whither thou goest to possess it. 64 And the Lord shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone. 65 And among these nations shalt thou find no ease, neither shall the sole of thy foot have rest: but the Lord shall give thee there a trembling heart, and failing of eyes, and sorrow of mind: 66 and thy life shall hang in doubt before thee; and thou shalt fear day and night, and shalt have none assurance of thy life: 67 in the morning thou shalt say, Would God it were even! and at even thou shalt say, Would God it were morning! for the fear of thine heart wherewith thou shalt fear, and for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see.

Anonymous Susan January 15, 2015 12:01 PM  

British History is full of chopped off heads. From Kings/Queens to the dissident noble class.

Elizabeth I chopped off her cousin Mary Queen of Scots head. Cromwell, while not a king, instigated a head chopping. Although that guy deserved it for calling in foreign troops against his own people.
Then there was Henry VIII, who went that route to rid himself of two wives.

I kind of understand why France chopped Louis and MA's heads. The people of that country were just a little tired of living in poverty while the kings and nobles lived off the sweat of their brows. It was easy pickings for Robespierre to incite the nation into the madness of Revolution.

God did warn the Hebrews that would happen when they got a human king instead of letting God stay in charge.

Anonymous Porky January 15, 2015 12:01 PM  

For you to misread and misrepresent the comments in this fashion is inexcusable.

There you go again, John - mistaking rhetoric for dialectic.

Anonymous Sheila January 15, 2015 12:05 PM  

One more point and I'll STFU. It's so very typical that this pseudo-British woman thinks Jews have been "brilliant" at assimilating. Same with Jews in the US - they all feel they're just exactly like everyone else. You know, the Pauline Kael syndrome. Even the minority of those who don't choose to live in a heavily-Jewish area, still manage to surround themselves with atypical "Americans" - various immigrants and malcontents who are all convinced they represent the great silent majority. It's not even ironic, because they are so utterly clueless about how alien their attitudes and lifestyles are to the average American. To them, they ARE the average American. This is one reason why every "lifestyle" or latest trend article you will find, written by a Jew, will quote a majority of other Jews - albeit from various locales - about this latest "trend" that the vast majority of the country has never heard of or could care less about. They are convinced they're undetectable by the average non-Jew, just as so many evangelical Christians think they love all Jews until they actually live near or deal with them.

Local anecdote - I read, a year or two ago, how the local branch of the Association for Christian Schools or some such accrediting organization finally agreed to let the local Jewish private schools join. The very first thing the Jewish schools did was complain about the scheduling of games because they conflicted with various minor Jewish holidays. The former head of the Christian group said "I told you so," but he was overruled by all the Jesus is love types.

Anonymous Anonymous January 15, 2015 12:09 PM  

And all these Jews that wanted dieversity...Well, you got it!

- Francis

Anonymous Corvinus January 15, 2015 12:16 PM  

It's going to be a long papacy, with lots of cringing and trying to explain to friends the strict limits on papal infallibility.

@calicorishev
And probably an increasing number going sedevacantist, i.e., "Eff it, this Marxist idiot cannot possibly be the Pope."

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 15, 2015 12:19 PM  

To be honest, the French system of employment has contributed to the isolation of the banlieus. It's a great risk to hire someone into a shop or a service business when they can't be fired, and nobody wants to be stuck with a surly or incompetent employee. The design of those suburban habitats makes it easy for the French government to isolate the inhabitents as well.

The whole guest worker concept really wasn't very well thought out, it appears. Because it assumes that Algerians are just like Gascognes genetically, or enough like them that the blank slate of their persons will be written over by the magic pen of geography.

But the magic pen of geography writes in disappearing ink, thanks to the unpleasant reality of genetic inheritance.

Anonymous VD January 15, 2015 12:21 PM  

For you to misread and misrepresent the comments in this fashion is inexcusable.

I find it remarkable that you take her comments at face value. Do you seriously believe that she does not regard the Jews in Britain as being a distinct group that is superior to the common British people?

Are you truly unfamiliar with the concept of tikkun olam?

Furthermore, the woman is absolutely and disastrously wrong. For the Jews to lead a self-serving charge against anti-semitism is one of the worst things they could possibly do. That is what has led to infringements on free speech, on calls for special rights such as the recent one for Jews to have gun rights in France that no Frenchmen possess, and so forth.

She is asking why her people are expecting anyone to protect them if they will not protect themselves.

She didn't ask that. Furthermore, they CAN'T protect themselves. 240,000 against 64 million? The English could eliminate them in a day if they were truly anti-semitic. They can't even protect themselves against the UK Muslims, who outnumber them 10 to 1.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 15, 2015 12:22 PM  

(read of an interesting "re-enactment" done here in Texas of the Charlie Hebdo situation and only two of the group of volunteers even managed to shoot one Muslim - notably, the sole woman ran away!),

Link or source s'il vous plais, this would make interesting reading.

Anonymous IM2L844 January 15, 2015 12:28 PM  

It's not too surprising that Jews care more about other Jews than they do about obnoxious proactive atheists. As a matter of fact, the thing about this whole Charlie Hebdo affair I think is most interesting is that Vox warned the obnoxious proactive atheists, years ago, that the Muslims would soon be gunning for them if they couldn't reel in their venom a little bit. Fait accompli?

Anonymous Duke From January 15, 2015 12:32 PM  

The quote from the woman is in the context of leading in the calling out of acts of anti-semitism, not leading the nation.

Why be disingenuous?

Anonymous Jack Amok January 15, 2015 12:33 PM  

@An Israeli

Jews themselves, who are on the whole brilliant at assimilating, need to get better at publicly calling out anti-Semitism...

The persistent (and increasing) anti-semitism makes it pretty clear Jews aren't as brilliant at assimilating as she thinks. So even if your put her "lead" comment in the context of "lead the fight against anti-semitism" she's still guilty of the charges. To wit:

1) she still sees herself as a Jew and thinks her problems as a Jew must be made a priority by the rest of society.

2) by making such a laughably incorrect claim about being brilliant at assimiliation, she exhibits a superiority complex that reinforces both her groupism and the negative reaction from others.

Her husband has more sense than she does - too bad he can't get her to STFU.

The way to end anti-semitism is to stop being so obnoxiously semitic if you're living in a country that's not primarily semetic. Just be another person in your society and stop getting together with other Jews to complain about how boo-hoo bad you have it.

Everybody has problems. The problems Jews have aren't special, not to the rest of society. Acting like they are turns people against you.

Anonymous Duke From January 15, 2015 12:34 PM  

"but that was not the extent to which she believes that Jews should be leading Great Britain."

Base Speculation

Blogger Cogitans Iuvenis January 15, 2015 12:35 PM  

One thing I've noticed about RC's in the USA is that many of them felt a renewed pride in their church and became closer to their faith when JPII was Pope, but, with Francis, they mostly shake their heads in disbelief at his public statements.

JPII is rolling in his grave at Francis freedom of expression statement. I can forgive the pope's ideological fallacies when it comes to economics. He is a clergy man, not an economist, who spent his life in Argentina so I expect a sort of inability to recognize failed economics from him.

This bit though...
Others, though, have noted that in virtually all societies, freedom of speech has its limits, from laws against Holocaust denial to racially motivated hate speech.

I will be the first one to say that Holocaust denailists are in denial themselves, but to limit their ability to voice their opinion kind of exposes how unfree some supposedly free societies are.

Anonymous Stilicho January 15, 2015 12:35 PM  

In other words, the writer is speaking only about one thing: leading the public call against antisemitism.

From what I've seen and read, they already are. Vox also pointed out one result of that leadership:

"If we don’t lead, how can the rest of society follow?" How indeed. Pat Buchanan asked a pertinent question in his article on Unz: "Muslims in the banlieues wonder why insulting the Prophet is a protected freedom in France, while denying the Holocaust can get you a prison term."

She is asking why her people are expecting anyone to protect them if they will not protect themselves.

Quite apt. However, they must recognize that the means they employ to protect themselves may not protect them very much if they end up antagonizing significant numbers or even a majority of Britons. The approach of "one rule for me and another for thee" is unlikely to win them many friends in the long run.

Blogger rycamor January 15, 2015 12:36 PM  

How could anyone (much less Jews themselves) living in former Christendom think that Jews could get "better at publicly calling out anti-Semitism?" How on earth could it get any better than actually criminalizing those who question the Holocaust?

Blogger Brad Andrews January 15, 2015 12:39 PM  

She didn't ask that. Furthermore, they CAN'T protect themselves. 240,000 against 64 million?

Of course they cannot do it all themselves, but asking others to do it for them if they won't do so themselves is more idiotic.

It would be like gun owners expecting others to fight for gun rights before they did.

As I noted before, the same logic being used here is regularly used to pummel those the MSM disagrees with and it is just as reprehensible there.

Blogger Brad Andrews January 15, 2015 12:41 PM  

rycamor,

They would likely do much better if it was merely words they used rather than the blunt arm of the law. The latter is almost always ineffective and ends up working against your ends. See the modern drug war as a good example.

What they consider anti-Semitism is flawed at times, but that is not the question here. It is the allegation that they want to rule, according to the statement. That is only the case from this statement if it is taken out of context. They may want to rule and may think they should, but this is poor evidence for that.

Blogger Chris Mallory January 15, 2015 12:42 PM  

"(read of an interesting "re-enactment" done here in Texas of the Charlie Hebdo situation and only two of the group of volunteers even managed to shoot one Muslim - notably, the sole woman ran away!),

Link or source s'il vous plais, this would make interesting reading."

The Truth About Guns is probably the one that is being talked about. Basically they discovered that against two men with automatic rifles, body armor and a death wish, there is not much one person with a pistol can do. In that situation, taking cover and shooting from ambush would be my course of action.

Anonymous Herman January 15, 2015 12:46 PM  

like most people, the Juice dont seem to link cause and effect very well. As an example, consider the post WW 1 communist revolutionary movements in Europe, which had very high levels of Juice participation, given their percentage of the populations, and the industrial scale murder committed in post revolutionary Russia. Compare this with the German response. Was it predictable? Yes. Moral? of course not.

Anonymous Meh January 15, 2015 12:47 PM  

The persistent (and increasing) anti-semitism makes it pretty clear Jews aren't as brilliant at assimilating as she thinks.

In Europe, that persistent (and increasing) anti-semitism has more to do with persistent (and increasing) Muslim immigration than anything the Jews are doing. The Jews assimilated well enough (yeah they are annoying Lefties but there are plenty of home-grown annoying Lefties), but the Muslims not at all.

The Jewish fate in Arab-controlled lands is abundantly clear. The Jews can't hope to assimilate in that situation.

Anonymous Cryan Ryan January 15, 2015 12:50 PM  

"Her husband has more sense than she does - too bad he can't get her to STFU. " @ Jack Amok

Ha ha. No kidding.

I was executor for a Jewish friend's estate some years back. He asked me to do so, as his two brothers (and their wives) had cheated him blatantly in several financial affairs. (they couldn't help themselves)

First they hired a lawyer in an attempt to invalidate their brother's Will. (didn't work)

Then, over the course of the year, the two Jewish wives of the brothers called the estate attorney's office dozens of times over every tiny detail.

They absolutely had no self control whatsoever, nor did their henpecked husbands have any control over them.

It was a ghastly situation to witness.

Blogger rycamor January 15, 2015 12:51 PM  

Brad Andrews January 15, 2015 12:41 PM

rycamor,

What they consider anti-Semitism is flawed at times, but that is not the question here. It is the allegation that they want to rule, according to the statement. That is only the case from this statement if it is taken out of context. They may want to rule and may think they should, but this is poor evidence for that.


Taken by itself as a question of logical sentence-parsing, you and John Wright are correct. Taken in the context of Western history, the culture we live in, and even the rhetorical dancing in the article itself, no. Even if you take for granted the more charitable meaning, that sentence is an odd way to portray the idea.

Blogger Cogitans Iuvenis January 15, 2015 12:52 PM  

The Truth About Guns is probably the one that is being talked about. Basically they discovered that against two men with automatic rifles, body armor and a death wish, there is not much one person with a pistol can do. In that situation, taking cover and shooting from ambush would be my course of action.

That is indeed the one. The results really weren't surprising, I've seen policy academy run tests before that pretty much end the same way. But then the results only strengthen our argument, sure one citizen with a gun may not stop two determined crazies/jihadists but what happens when it's two, three or four?

What would happen if neighborhoods/business district/large office buildings started organizing their own "militias" whose sole purpose would be for these kind of one off events. I mean it will never happen, but imagine the deterrence if the Jihadists attacked the Chrysler building and inside were a dozen or so armed citizens who planned for just that occurrence?

Blogger JartStar January 15, 2015 12:55 PM  

Actually there is one speech which must be repressed for the freedom of speech to continue, and that's the speech to limit freedom of speech. Sorry Francis.

Anonymous Soga January 15, 2015 12:56 PM  

The problem is, if you think only Jews can lead the charge in anti-Semitism, itself an assertion about the moral capabilities of Jews vs non-Jews, you're already instigating that non-Jews are backwards moral apes that need their betters (Jews) to rule over them.

Try telling black people that they need whites to teach them not to hate whites. Watch them get offended that: 1) You're telling them how to think, and 2) You're suggesting that blacks are morally inferior and need white men upholding the "white man's burden" on their behalf.

That's what this woman is coming off as saying.

Anonymous karsten January 15, 2015 12:56 PM  

"The Western Europeans killed themselves right out of the race for world leadership in 1914-45. The massacre of the European Jews gutted their own creative minorities; America and Israel were the principal beneficiaries of the stream of highly-talented demonstrated-survivor refugees thus created. In consequence, Europe is today struggling to survive, when a mere 80 years ago, the question was whether or not the rest of the world would be able to retain any of its culture, faced with the European impact."

So much lying in the above statement, it could only come from a kosher source.

Those so-called "creative minorities" have only ever been good at destruction -- both by ideologically maligning traditional Western culture and by replacing it with repellently ugly, Marxist-feminist-deconstructionist modern art, modern architecture, modern books, etc. -- art that no one can stand, and that only succeeds because the "Chosen" have a stranglehold on the media and get to decide what is approved and what is not.

At the same time, their media hegemony has created a de facto ban on the creation of works of timeless beauty and barred many potential artists from ever creating works in line with the European tradition.

The only reason Europe no longer dominates world culture is due to Judaic media control, and that only exists because, in the war between Judea and Germany (remember? "Judea declares war on Germany"), Germany lost -- after Judea sicced the rest of the world on it.

And of course, Judea never signed any armistice with Germany after the war. Judea is still at war with Germany (or more precisely, with traditional Germanic and Germano-Christian values, both cultural and moral).

Recognizing the face and tactics of the enemy, a process to which the original post in this thread contributes, is the first step towards Europe's restoration of, first, self-determination in its own culture, and second, a renewed dissemination of that then-liberated culture around the globe.

Blogger YIH January 15, 2015 1:00 PM  

Something I just saw:
TOKYO: IMF chief Christine Lagarde on Friday (Sep 12, 2014) commended Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's efforts to power the economy by boosting the female workforce, but added he needs to do more, including accepting more immigrants.
What ethnicity is Ms. Lagarde? Anyone? Anyone?
Shimshon? An Israeli?
Shimshon, An Israeli, tell me why Japan needs to boost the female workforce, or accepting more immigrants.
How about the need to boost the female workforce and accept more (non-jewish) immigrants in Israel? Care to hasbra?

Anonymous VD January 15, 2015 1:01 PM  

The quote from the woman is in the context of leading in the calling out of acts of anti-semitism, not leading the nation. Why be disingenuous?

You have the disingenuous aspect backwards. She is speaking in rhetoric, not dialectic. Furthermore, the Jews have no claim to lead Britain in any capacity whatsoever, not even in the limited manner she suggests. If the British people wish to be anti-semitic and pass laws banning various Jewish practices, that is their absolute democratic right.

You don't seem to understand how this works. If you can pass a law banning the expression of doubts of the Holocaust, you can also pass a law banning the expression of doubts of Jesus Christ's resurrection.

Many of you seem to be engaged in magical thinking. What is going to happen in Europe is going to happen no matter what you, me, or anyone on this blog says. Before you get your knickers in a twist over what I write, I suggest you keep this in mind.

I WAS RIGHT. I WARNED EVERYONE THESE THINGS WERE COMING.

You will note that the Prime Minister of Israel said pretty much the same thing I said a while ago. Now, if you want to call me anti-semitic and Judenhassen and so forth because I tell people to get out of a house on fire before they burn to death, go ahead. I care no more about your opinion in that regard than if you want to tell me that 2+2=37.

Here is my question to those who encourage Jews to stay in Britain and France now. Would you have similarly encouraged Jews to stay in Germany in 1931? How about 1935? At what point would you start saying exactly what I have been saying?

Blogger Cogitans Iuvenis January 15, 2015 1:04 PM  

TOKYO: IMF chief Christine Lagarde on Friday (Sep 12, 2014) commended Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's efforts to power the economy by boosting the female workforce, but added he needs to do more, including accepting more immigrants.

What is it with these leftist motherfuckers? They can never say, good job or acknowledge anything without a demand for more. Always more, more and more.

Anonymous horsewithnonick January 15, 2015 1:05 PM  

Here, here and here

Anonymous Porky January 15, 2015 1:07 PM  

Germany lost -- after Judea sicced the rest of the world on it.

So after Pearl Harbor we were just gonna sit there and lick our wounds....until ze joooooos said "Sic 'em"??????

Anonymous horsewithnonick January 15, 2015 1:07 PM  

The links to the Texas reenactment, that is.

Anonymous Alexander January 15, 2015 1:10 PM  

I am sure the Japanese will nod, thank the IMF for their recognition and not-quite-promises to consider - heavily consider, even - the pearls of wisdom...

... and promptly turn around and conclude (quietly) that the IMF and the seven billion or so could-be immigrants can continue to fuck off and not live in Japan.

Anonymous zen0 January 15, 2015 1:12 PM  

I read Arutz Sheva on a regular basis. One of the recurring stories in the past few years is Jews decrying anti-Semitism in Europe, and highlighting social actions they take to combat it. This woman makes it sound like she just discovered what was going on and must get someone to do something about it.

Go to the Jewish Defense League of the UK website. Read. The Jewish action against anti-semitism has been an ongoing project. for years. For her to call for increased action is ridiculous journalistic grandstanding.

I can't believe she thinks they need Moar.

Anonymous patrick kelly January 15, 2015 1:16 PM  

" there is one speech which must be repressed for the freedom of speech to continue, and that's the speech to limit freedom of speech.

No.

Blogger Bodichi January 15, 2015 1:17 PM  

@Porky

"
So after Pearl Harbor we were just gonna sit there and lick our wounds....until ze joooooos said "Sic 'em"??????"

What was it exactly that Germany did to us in Pearl Harbor? Oh perhaps you meant the Zimmerman letter? If not, maybe you'll be able to explain to me, because being simple I just don't understand, why it was that an attack from Japan, meant we had to go to war with Germany?

Anonymous patrick kelly January 15, 2015 1:18 PM  

"So after Pearl Harbor we were just gonna sit there and lick our wounds....until ze joooooos said "Sic 'em"??????"

No, PH harbor was an evil jewish plot to serve as our secret dog whistle whispering "sic em" in our ears....

Blogger Bodichi January 15, 2015 1:18 PM  

@ Porky,

Oh wait I think I understand, this is kind of similar to how we are attacked by terrorists from AStan and have to go to war with Iraq? Am I getting it now?

Blogger Chris Mallory January 15, 2015 1:19 PM  

"So after Pearl Harbor we were just gonna sit there and lick our wounds....until ze joooooos said "Sic 'em"??????"

The Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, so we went to war against Germany. After we had already been committing acts of war against Germany for years.

Anonymous patrick kelly January 15, 2015 1:21 PM  

"why it was that an attack from Japan, meant we had to go to war with Germany?"

Are you serious? Japan had a pact with Germany, you may heard of it referred to as the Axis. Japan attacked PH simultaneously declaring war on the US, the US declared war on Japan, German declared war on the US, the US declared war on Germany....

That's the sequence of events I understand, if wrong I'm sure some ilk will enthusiastically correct me....

Anonymous Discard January 15, 2015 1:24 PM  

It may be true that the writer intended to say only that Jews should lead any fight against anti-Semitism. But to me, having lived in Jewish-controlled Los Angeles for decades, where some prominent Jews have very plainly called for Jews to lead the benighted, VD's interpretation resonates. I don't doubt for a minute that she believes that her people should tell the Britons what they should think, having seen it many times before.

Anonymous VD January 15, 2015 1:24 PM  

I found this amusing:

Gaza conflict: As a British Jew, I am now scared to talk about Israel and Gaza
It is terrifying to see those who oppose Israel’s war in Gaza turn against all Jews
By Emma Barnett
23 Jul 2014

I'm starting to notice a theme there.... The Jew cries out in terror as she lectures you.

Blogger Bodichi January 15, 2015 1:26 PM  

@Patrick

Oh that is why? You mean it had nothing do with pressure from English bankers? You mean it had nothing to do with all of the war material we were sending to the British in unmarked civilian water craft?

Gosh, thanks for that.

Anonymous Dan in Tx (would live in Japan if I could) January 15, 2015 1:27 PM  

I read awhile back the IMF chief's remarks to Japan about increasing immigration. The thing is, we all know what she means by "immigration". It's not, you need to let more intelligent white people who could contribute to your society live here that might love living in Japan. No, it always means the same thing with these people: you need to bring in people from third world shit holes so your citizens can experience vibrancy good and hard. After all, being able to let your daughters walk somewhere by themselves after dark without worrying is so way over rated.

Anonymous Heh January 15, 2015 1:36 PM  

Try telling black people that they need whites to teach them not to hate whites. Watch them get offended that: 1) You're telling them how to think, and 2) You're suggesting that blacks are morally inferior and need white men upholding the "white man's burden" on their behalf.

Try telling whites that they need blacks to teach them not to hate blacks...

And they'll say, "oh, did you have to attend that diversity training seminar at the corporate office last week, too?"

Anonymous SixtusVIth January 15, 2015 1:39 PM  

There are three Jews and six Roman Catholics on the Supreme Court. Can't help wondering what would be different if there were some Protestants.

Britain, Iceland, Denmark, Norway, and Finland are officially Protestant, as was Sweden until 2000. How Christian are these countries today?

Anonymous 11B January 15, 2015 1:40 PM  

An Israeli wrote, "As far as France goes, here is a column that I read today on the matter:

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/international/229068-a-two-state-solution-for-france"


That article was silly. The writer is trying to say that since Europe supports a two-state solution for Israel and the Palestinians then Europe must support two-state solutions in France and other Euro nations for their muslims as well. How the two situations are related, I know not. But the author does seem to be very pro-Israel so maybe he thinks he is on to something.

Blogger Owen January 15, 2015 1:41 PM  

The results really weren't surprising, I've seen policy academy run tests before that pretty much end the same way. But then the results only strengthen our argument, sure one citizen with a gun may not stop two determined crazies/jihadists but what happens when it's two, three or four?

There's that, but also the deterrence factor that limits targets to begin with.

The Ft Hood shooting should have been easily prevented, most think. Except our military deliberately disarms civilians (most veterans) and military members on base. They plop either rent-a-cops at the gate or have a small MP/SP detachment of about 50 to "protect" a base of 10,000.

And if you're caught bringing your legally purchased and licensed firearm on the property, they throw the book at you.

Compare that to the town (Missouri?) requiring everyone own a gun. The liberal hand-wringing and the subsequent silence when crime rates dropped.

Just allowing the possibility of armed citizenry gives anyone targeting civilians pause.

Anonymous Musashi January 15, 2015 1:43 PM  

War.

Anonymous Corvinus January 15, 2015 1:43 PM  

Germany lost -- after Judea sicced the rest of the world on it.

So after Pearl Harbor we were just gonna sit there and lick our wounds....until ze joooooos said "Sic 'em"??????


@Porky
Yet again you show your ignorance... you apparently don't know about Lend-Lease, which was an act of war against Germany. It's true that Germany could have refused to fall for the bait and let us fight Japan only (as Japan did by letting the USSR fight Germany only), but unfortunately for them, they didn't.

Anonymous Rabbi B January 15, 2015 1:46 PM  

We have just become so bad at imitating the faith of our forefathers. There is no record that I can find of any of the following persecuted Jews crying anti-Semitism, let alone rallying to lead the charge against anti-Semitism:

Abraham
Isaac
Jacob
Joseph
Moses
David
All of the prophets
Daniel
Shadrach
Meshach
Abednego
Mordechai
Esther
Nehemiah
Ezra
The Maccabees
The Twelve Disciples
Paul

Oh ... and Y'shua the Messiah ...

Forming groups like the ADL et al and marching against anti-Semitism is just plain embarrassing and only serves to make things worse for us. This mentality and all that we are witnessing are ultimately symptoms of a deeper problem, a problem that is not political in nature. Until that problem is rectified, I am afraid the current situation will only continue to deteriorate.

Again, the issue is not that we are too Jewish, or that we resist assimilation, etc. (quite the contrary), but that we discharge our duty and calling as Jews so frivolously, poorly, and ineffectively among the nations to where we have been scattered, albeit temporarily.

We need to look to the rock from which we were cut, to Abraham our father and behave ourselves accordingly, most especially among the nations to where we have been exiled. Until then, the ride is only going to get that much rougher for all of us. We were called to be a blessing to the nations, and this is the case as long as we remain faithful to our calling; when we become unfaithful, the reverse is no less pervasive.

Blogger YIH January 15, 2015 1:55 PM  

I'm surprised a certain someone has not shown up here yet. After all this is his second favorite subject.

Blogger Joshua Dyal January 15, 2015 1:57 PM  

I will be the first one to say that Holocaust denailists are in denial themselves, but to limit their ability to voice their opinion kind of exposes how unfree some supposedly free societies are.

Depends on what you mean by denial. It would indeed be foolish to deny that the Germans rounded up a bunch of Jews into concentration camps and that many of them died.

However; what if you question the numbers? What if you look at census records and conclude that not only could six million Jews not possibly have been killed in the Holocaust, but that it's problematic to even demonstrate that there were six million Jews in Europe during WW2? Or that the number of Jews in the world based on two counts bracketing WW2 are only off from each other by a few hundred thousand?

There's no question that the propaganda effort of the Holocaust has greatly benefited Jewry overall. It's not exactly rocket science to ask questions about how overblown the whole affair might have been (and there are a great many other questions that come up that are more troubling than this one), or to start probing for answers to those questions.

And yet doing so, in most of the West, is illegal.

Blogger Bodichi January 15, 2015 1:59 PM  

Golly Joshua Dial,

Don't let Josh hear you say that or he will scream out "Jooooooooooooooos" and invalidate your entire argument. No reason to use facts or numbers just yell out anti-Semite and all arguments are invalidated, and all objectors disqualified...

Now that sounds funny, where have I seen that exact same debate style before? Hmmm?

Anonymous Idle Spectator January 15, 2015 2:01 PM  

America? Look around you....

Seth Rogen?

Anonymous cheddarman January 15, 2015 2:02 PM  

Rabbi B., I dont know if synagogues have an "amen corner," but if they did, i would be in yours.

Shalom

OpenID luagha January 15, 2015 2:06 PM  

As for the Pope, I immediately remember that any popular news source is going to misquote the Pope to their own purposes. It's already happened several times with this pope, so I immediately ignore anything the major media claims he says.

As for the re-enactment, yes. It's a re-enactment of a Kobayashi Maru scenario where the attackers have most of the advantages.

I wonder if they did any re-enactments with any kind of warning or alarm; hearing a disturbance. We'll find out.

The thing I would add is that any wound on the attackers greatly complicates their ability to continue hitting targets. The Mumbai terrorists had targets after targets after targets to go hit with impunity because no one could put any damage on them.

Anonymous patrick kelly January 15, 2015 2:11 PM  

@Bo....:"You mean it had nothing do with pressure from English bankers? You mean it had nothing to do with all of the war material we were sending to the British in unmarked civilian water craft?"

No, I didn't mean any of that. I'm aware of what was going on, but all of that was happening before Germany declared war on the US. I wasn't writing a comprehensive treatise on every subtext influencing the US participation in the war against Germany.

You asked specifically about the Japan attack on PH and how it was related the declaration of war. I considered it unnecessary to mention all those other mechanization in order to answer that particular question.

"But wait, there's more....."

Freedom is not free. Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free. - ??(where did I steal this from?)

Blogger Bodichi January 15, 2015 2:18 PM  

@Patrick

Right, we are on the same page. My comment was for those who think that we had to be at war with Germany (if there are any of those people on this site) just like my follow up was for those who think that some how 9/11 meant we needed to go to Iraq.

Anonymous Nah January 15, 2015 2:22 PM  

you apparently don't know about Lend-Lease, which was an act of war against Germany.

Nah.

The German declaration of war didn't even cite lend-lease, only attacking German naval forces and seizing German ships.

Anonymous VD January 15, 2015 2:22 PM  

Don't let Josh hear you say that or he will scream out "Jooooooooooooooos" and invalidate your entire argument.

No, that particular form of rhetoric has been declared out of bounds. Philosemites and anti-semites alike are expected to engage in civil and rational discourse, even on this subject.

Anonymous Nah January 15, 2015 2:24 PM  

those who think that we had to be at war with Germany (if there are any of those people on this site)

We had to be after they declared war on us.

Which we knew, long beforehand, that they were going to do if Japan attacked us.

Blogger Owen January 15, 2015 2:29 PM  

As for the re-enactment, yes. It's a re-enactment of a Kobayashi Maru scenario where the attackers have most of the advantages.

I wonder if they did any re-enactments with any kind of warning or alarm; hearing a disturbance. We'll find out.


My two thoughts in the simulation. It was good, in that they took people familiar with weapons, but who haven't trained, trained, trained to respond in crisis situations. It makes it more realistic. My answer? Start realistic civilian training to respond to the threats, like this. They do it for street encounters already.

Next, the noise. If the armed civilian was several doors in, did the paintballs imitate gunshot sounds? Not able to watch at work. If just the sound of paintballs, the simulation might be different if the armed citizen had 20-30 seconds to prepare before responding.

Blogger Bodichi January 15, 2015 2:30 PM  

@NAH

We had to be after they declared war on us

That is similar to saying this:

If that kid punches me I am going to punch him back.

With out saying this:

I have been stealing that kids lunch money, pissing on his locker, and giving other kids who hate him rocks to throw at him. Now why would he punch me?????

Blogger bob k. mando January 15, 2015 2:33 PM  

Bodichi January 15, 2015 1:18 PM
Oh wait I think I understand, this is kind of similar to how we are attacked by terrorists from AStan and have to go to war with Iraq? Am I getting it now?



not even close.

we were attacked by terrorists from Saudi Arabia.

so we had to attack Afghanistan so that Afghanistan would discontinue their monetary funding of the Saudi terrorist state.

or something like that ...





Rabbi B January 15, 2015 1:46 PM
but that we discharge our duty and calling as Jews so frivolously, poorly, and ineffectively among the nations to where we have been scattered,



this.

as i have noted before, at the end of WW2 the Jews stood on a mountain of authority 6 million bodies tall.

and they said that their motto and oath forevermore would be, "Never Again!"

and then they pissed their 'authority' away by refusing to say anything about all of the genocides committed against everyone else such as:
Stalin
Mao
Amin
Saddam
Pol Pot
Zanzibar
Rwanda
etc

had the Jews expressed a PRINCIPLED opposition to genocide since 1945, then they would be looked upon far more favorably today.

Anonymous Duke From January 15, 2015 2:34 PM  

"You have the disingenuous aspect backwards. She is speaking in rhetoric, not dialectic. Furthermore, the Jews have no claim to lead Britain in any capacity whatsoever, not even in the limited manner she suggests."

She is speaking specifically about calling out anti-semitism and nothing else. And of course Jews have right and claim to lead that effort. Any group of English citizens can rightly claim to lead an effort. I would expect fishermen to lead in pointing out anti-fishery regulations. I would expect Labor leaders to speak out of labor violations. I would expect Christians to speak out about anti-Christian activity. Of course English Jews have the right to speak out on anti-semitism in England.

Blogger Bodichi January 15, 2015 2:36 PM  

@Duke

"Of course English Jews have the right to speak out on anti-semitism in England."

Who has the right to speak out on anti-Caucasianism in the USA?

Anonymous Nice Set of Memes January 15, 2015 2:40 PM  

I'm starting to notice a theme there.... The Jew cries out in terror as she lectures you.

It is their go to: victim-as-messiah meme

Anonymous Nah January 15, 2015 2:41 PM  

I have been stealing that kids lunch money, pissing on his locker, and giving other kids who hate him rocks to throw at him. Now why would he punch me?????

Poor widdle innercent Nazi Germany, minding its own business, and we picked on them for no reason, boo hoo hoo.

Germany... the country that invaded five neutral countries, and signed a military alliance directed against us, before the lend-lease act was signed... that's the country whose "neutral rights" we should have respected? Ha.

We had no reason to sit back and let them win.

Blogger IM2L844 January 15, 2015 2:42 PM  

Try telling black people that they need whites to teach them not to hate whites.

Try telling whites that they need blacks to teach them not to hate blacks...


Try organizing a European-American Heritage Pride rally or parade, if you could even get the permits, however sincerely innocent, and see how many SJWs show up to shout you down and protest your obvious blatant bigotry.

Anonymous Porky January 15, 2015 2:42 PM  

Yet again you show your ignorance... you apparently don't know about Lend-Lease

Ahhhh, of course. Ze great "Lend-Lease" Jooish conspiracy to bambooozle ze ubermenschreich into declaring ze Krieg!!

Blogger Bodichi January 15, 2015 2:45 PM  

Nah

"Germany... the country that invaded five neutral countries, and signed a military alliance directed against us, before the lend-lease act was signed... that's the country whose "neutral rights" we should have respected? Ha."

Yes. Explain why we needed to waste American lives, American money, and American equipment, fighting a war that wasn't about us.

Then explain Vietnam, Korea, Iraq 1 and 2 and Astan.

Blogger rycamor January 15, 2015 2:51 PM  

Rabbi B is the voice in the wilderness, calling out to the Jews. Note he agrees that the problem is not that the Jews don't assimilate.

Anonymous bw January 15, 2015 2:55 PM  

Jews stood on a mountain of authority 6 million bodies tall

Not likely

The number does seem to be very popular one in the run up to the real six million that really counts and matters.

Anonymous Nah January 15, 2015 3:01 PM  

Yes. Explain why we needed to waste American lives, American money, and American equipment, fighting a war that wasn't about us.

It was about us. Read up on geopolitics and get back to me when you're less ignorant.

Blogger Danby January 15, 2015 3:02 PM  

Freedom is not free. Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free. - ??(where did I steal this from?)
That's how broadcaster Richard Cotten opened and closed his broadcasts in the 1950s and 1960s. He is largely remembered by White supremacists, SJWs and the ADL whom he beat in a landmark free speech case.

Blogger Ron January 15, 2015 3:03 PM  

@Bodichi

Who has the right to speak out on anti-Caucasianism in the USA?

Everyone. And everyone should. At the end of the day, we are all sons of Adam.

But the question is not "who has the right", it is "who has the primary obligation to stand up and fight for it".

Blogger Joshua Dyal January 15, 2015 3:07 PM  

Germany... the country that invaded five neutral countries, and signed a military alliance directed against us, before the lend-lease act was signed... that's the country whose "neutral rights" we should have respected? Ha.

Was one of those countries the US?

We had no reason to sit back and let them win.

We had no reason to have anything to do with them one way or another.

Blogger Joshua Dyal January 15, 2015 3:09 PM  

It was about us. Read up on geopolitics and get back to me when you're less ignorant.

First, read up on the tradition of American isolationism and the Founding Fathers' quite timely warning to avoid foreign entanglements and then get back to us when you can explain why geopolitics (which in reality are Europolitics in this case) is our concern.

Blogger Bodichi January 15, 2015 3:10 PM  

@ NAH

"It was about us. Read up on geopolitics and get back to me when you're less ignorant."

Calling me names is not the same as invalidating my point

Blogger Cogitans Iuvenis January 15, 2015 3:11 PM  

Yes. Explain why we needed to waste American lives, American money, and American equipment, fighting a war that wasn't about us.

Hitler's wrote in Zweites Buch, not published until well after his death, that ultimately a Greater Germany would fight a war against the United States in order. The entirety of the fighting by the Nazis was to establish a continental power that could one day challenge, and possibly defeat the United States.

Blogger Shimshon January 15, 2015 3:13 PM  

I think my own background and family would make for interesting reading, but suffice it to say that even the offspring of my generation who maintained any semblance of Jewish identity have seen the next generation completely assimilated. I have some cousin Sheilas. Hey, a special snowflake deserves to be honored this way. I've barely talked to them, particularly about religion. But they married out, give their kids amusing New England style names, don't seem to have any Jewish affectations at all, and so forth.

Even those who didn't intermarry have kids (my kids' generation) who are totally areligious and quite secular.

However, I have seen offspring from families as fully assimilated (or even more so) as Sheila's (who still have the pintele Yid) return to their faith. I would not be surprised to see it happen.

Blogger Bodichi January 15, 2015 3:14 PM  

@Cogitans Iuvenis

Ah, so what you are saying is that any person on country who wants to and could one day harm us must be attacked at any cost until they unilaterally and unconditionally surrender?

Blogger automatthew January 15, 2015 3:17 PM  

"not published until well after his death"

And that doesn't make you even the tiniest bit suspicious, mmm?

Blogger Mekadave January 15, 2015 3:20 PM  

The Jews of Lodz and Vilno were not the creative force that kept Europe in a position of world leadership.

My born-&-raised-in-Poland wife says Lodz is the "asshole of Poland" and nothing good comes out of there. :-p

Anonymous Sheila January 15, 2015 3:20 PM  

To various requests for links - yes, it was the Truth About Guns group, and I read it late last night at Daily Mail Online - but now cannot find the article or link.

My spouse said the same as others here - no, perhaps one individual with a gun couldn't have made much difference, but what about three or four? What if the assumption could/should be that everyone anywhere would be armed?

Anonymous Viidad January 15, 2015 3:29 PM  

@Porky

You brought your daughter home. Good work.

And Thanksgiving? LOL

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler January 15, 2015 3:35 PM  

And Marie LePen was not invited to the "Unity" march. Ohh, the hypocrisy.

Anonymous Dan in Tx January 15, 2015 3:39 PM  

Germany had no plans to fight the U.S. in the future.
There would have been no need, since Japan would have already invaded the west coast......

*DUCKS*

Blogger bob k. mando January 15, 2015 3:39 PM  

bw January 15, 2015 2:55 PM
Not likely



irrelevant.

it's the number everyone is taught. heck, even Iranians lauding Hitler agree that he murdered 6 meeeeelion ... even as they lament that he didn't murder more.

otoh, by the video linked to the 1915-38 newspaper references to "6 million Jews", there were certainly more than 6 million living in 'Europe' as a whole if there were 6 million just in Russia + Ukraine.

not that i'm asserting those newspaper figures to be accurate ....

although, i will note that i had this argument with my grandfather ( an ardent subscriber to The Spotlight ) about the "six million" number thirty years ago. grandpa made the assertion that, even by the census numbers that the Jews had taken of themselves, there were not 6 million in all of Europe.

i made the perfectly rational observation that Hitler was sending people to camps for being genetically Jewish ... not for being observant. people who were 1/2 jewish were likely to be sent away, even 1/4 breeds could be at serious risk.

this genetic definition would, of necessity, generate a FAR LARGER population number than one would get if you were simply counting synagogue attendance.



Nah January 15, 2015 3:01 PM
It was about us. Read up on geopolitics and get back to me when you're less ignorant.



that's funny.

Hemingway made the exact opposite argument numerous times ( read 'Byline: Ernest Hemingway' ).

until Pearl got bombed.

and then his position inverted by 180*. almost as if he were a stooge planted to help lead public opinion to the desired goal ....




John Wright January 15, 2015 11:48 AM
For you to misread and misrepresent the comments in this fashion is inexcusable.



for you to misrepresent the idea that this Jewess is, somehow, blissfully unaware of the existence of ongoing UK-JDL orgs and efforts in England since 1945 is inexcusable.

she knows full well that Jews have been speaking out in their own ( non-English ) interests the whole time.

Anonymous VD January 15, 2015 3:47 PM  

She is speaking specifically about calling out anti-semitism and nothing else. And of course Jews have right and claim to lead that effort.

That's simply not true. I've read a number of her other columns. Have you? And if the Jews try to lead that self-serving effort, they will suffer for it in the end. Britain may be their country of residence, but it is not their nation. France is not their nation. Israel is their nation.

There is more to nationality than geography and paperwork.

The philosemite position here reminds me of Jonah Goldberg's description of liberal fascism. "It's just this one brick... ignore the rest of the wall."

Blogger John Wright January 15, 2015 4:13 PM  

"for you to misrepresent the idea that this Jewess is, somehow, blissfully unaware of the existence of ongoing UK-JDL orgs and efforts in England since 1945 is inexcusable."

Then quote them. To quote part of the paragraph and claim it says something markedly other than it said is dishonest.

To answer my claim with a 'tu quoque' is illogical and irrelevant. You can do better.

Blogger Owen January 15, 2015 4:17 PM  

Hitler's wrote in Zweites Buch, not published until well after his death, that ultimately a Greater Germany would fight a war against the United States in order. The entirety of the fighting by the Nazis was to establish a continental power that could one day challenge, and possibly defeat the United States.

That doesn't jive with his stated view of Americans. He considered us "mongrels" and not all that tough. Further, prior to WWII, the US really didn't display the raw imperial power that would move the needle, compared to the histories of France and England.

I can't imagine the US was anything other than an afterthought to that dope.

Blogger rycamor January 15, 2015 4:22 PM  

Cryan Ryan January 15, 2015 12:50 PM
I was executor for a Jewish friend's estate some years back. He asked me to do so, as his two brothers (and their wives) had cheated him blatantly in several financial affairs. (they couldn't help themselves)

First they hired a lawyer in an attempt to invalidate their brother's Will. (didn't work)

Then, over the course of the year, the two Jewish wives of the brothers called the estate attorney's office dozens of times over every tiny detail.

They absolutely had no self control whatsoever, nor did their henpecked husbands have any control over them.

It was a ghastly situation to witness.


Growing up a fundamentalist Christian in Ohio and later in South America, I had no particular opinion of Jews, other than a reverence for their position in history. It was only after I moved to South Florida as a young man that I game into contact with lots of secular and quasi-secular Jews, and realized the reality of these characterizations.

It really would not surprise me to find that God's punishment to Jews who abandon Him is an uncontrollable lust for wealth and power. And there's just something about the shamelessness of it. I know this lawyer who asked a Jewish colleague for a ride to the airport, the response was something like "Sure, I'll do it. But here's the deal: my mother always taught me never to do anything for anyone unless I get paid, so I'm going to need compensation for my time." My friend just sort of blinked and said "... really? Just for a car ride?" The guy stuck to his guns. It's the sort of interchange that would never ever happen between two men of European descent, no matter how different. You give me an American Southerner and a Swede, or an Englishman and an Italian, and you won't see this. It's not wrong or illegal, just... not done.

It's not that I was or am looking for a reason to hate Jews, nor do I now. I worked with and for plenty of them who treated me fairly (although I learned to be very careful how I worded contracts and agreements). But it is ludicrous to assume that they represent some sort of shining example TO US of cultural neutrality. Ludicrous.

Anonymous Anubis January 15, 2015 4:23 PM  

"(read of an interesting "re-enactment" done here in Texas of the Charlie Hebdo situation and only two of the group of volunteers even managed to shoot one Muslim - notably, the sole woman ran away!), "

A single sign at their door saying "We dip our bullets in pigs blood like General Blackjack Pershingوانخفض الرصاص لدينا في الخنازير الدم مثل جنرال العوامة بيرشينج " would have stopped them at the door if there was any possibility of them legally owning guns. A black shot on his way to church in NYC at 2am whas hit 17 times by cops and survived, the wounds the mudslums would have received would have at least slown them down. You didn't say where the test was done if done in Austin the volunteers probably never touched a real gun. The sole woman that ran away must have previously worked at the New Orleans PD during Katrina.

There is a dire shortage of atheist, Soros worshiping, bacon eating, gay marrying & antigun Jews in Israel. The religious Jews are the only ones breeding so please immigrate or Israel could outlaw gay marriage & bacon, while handing out free guns.

Blogger John Wright January 15, 2015 4:42 PM  

@Vox: "I find it remarkable that you take her comments at face value. Do you seriously believe that she does not regard the Jews in Britain as being a distinct group that is superior to the common British people?"

Whether I take her comment at face value or not, the comment simply does not mean what you misleadingly presented it as meaning.

You presented it as meaning that she thinks the Jews should rule England.

In context, it means she thinks the Jews should take a leadership role in voicing opposition to antisemitism.

Again, whatever one's opinion that the Jews should or should not, can or cannot, have a leadership role in calling out antisemitism is irrelevant. Whether her statement is true or false is irrelevant. Whether she is wise or unwise to want to protect her people using this means or other means is irrelevant.

None of those things make the text you introduced as evidence of arrogant Jewish yearnings to rule England evidence of anything of the kind.

Maybe they have that yearning. If so, THIS TEXT you quoted out of context, misleadingly and deceptively does not support the argument that they do.


If you cannot win your case using relevant arguments and evidence, you don't have a case.

Anonymous Alexander January 15, 2015 4:57 PM  

"Today in Britain the wider society seems unwilling to grasp, denounce and crucially understand anti-Semitism. The Jewish community needs more outward solidarity as the tide slowly turns against us once more.

Jews themselves, who are on the whole brilliant at assimilating, need to get better at publicly calling out anti-Semitism – instead of trying to distance themselves from the problem in embarrassment. My husband, for instance, wasn’t sure about me writing this column – fearing the backlash. There may be only 260,000 of us in the UK but if we don’t lead, how can the rest of society follow?"

She is not simply saying that they need to take a leadership role in voicing opposition to anti-antisemitism. She wants to educate, if that's the word, the entire British populace. She expects to lecture a nation on what is right and wrong so that they finally 'grasp' the concern. She wants to publicly call out those who commit this crime, and - presumably - have them punished.

The demand to educate, police, and punish is not the same as calling for the power to protest. The assumption that an entire nation need to change the view of a minority they have allowed to live among them is the "Jew arrogance" that people are complaining about!

And while it may perhaps be unfair to Emma Barnett in particular and any number of Jews in particular, if there is any ambiguity in the arguments she presents, it is in my interest to go ahead and assume she desires a power grab than to sit and wait and see what happens. Skimming through her past articles, it seems unlikely that she would not seek to have the state enforce her ideas upon the populace.

And of course, the original point isn't actually whether she wants to do these things, or haw far she will go to enforce the things she wants; it was that people like Emma are the reasons people are wary about Jewish populations in their countries.

I suspect if every day I had my paper every day telling me what changes Eskimos wanted to make to my culture I'd start harboring ill-will towards Eskimos, regardless of whether that Eskimo had any actual authority or even spoke for the majority of Eskimos.

Anonymous Stilicho January 15, 2015 4:57 PM  

Not my monkeys, not my circus. Not my monkeys, not my circus. Not my monkeys....

Anonymous VD January 15, 2015 4:59 PM  

Then quote them. To quote part of the paragraph and claim it says something markedly other than it said is dishonest.

Where is the dishonesty, John? Where is the misreading? After quoting here, I wrote:

It's just so hard to imagine why so many of the 64 million people in the UK might not want this woman living among them and so graciously deigning to lead them. I wouldn't be at all surprised if most of them would now like to punch her in the face. "If we don’t lead, how can the rest of society follow?" How indeed.

Remember, this is the woman who wrote six months ago:

"The situation is so bad that the foreign ministers of Germany, France and Italy have issued a joint statement condemning the rise in anti-Semitic protests and violence in response to the Gaza conflict – and saying they will do everything possible to combat it. “Anti-Semitic rhetoric and hostility against Jews, attacks on people of Jewish belief and synagogues have no place in our societies,” they felt compelled publicly to state."

And yet, that isn't enough? Is the problem that the British foreign minister hasn't parroted the same anti-free speech line, so 64 million British citizens need 260,000 Jews to teach them that "Anti-Semitic rhetoric and hostility against Jews" have no place in British society?

Ms Barnett even attacked Mira Bar Hillel and accused her of being a self-loathing Jew because Bar Hillel dared to observe things like: "Only 15 per cent of the UK supports Israel's offensive. Are the rest anti-Semites?"

Bar Hillel also wrote: "I wrote in this newspaper about a tribunal case in March 2013 brought against the University and College Union (UCU) by a lecturer represented by Anthony Julius, Princess Diana’s divorce lawyer. Mr Julius has a second career as a professional anti-anti-Semite, seeking to equate it with criticism of Israel. He has written a massive tome and gives frequent talks on the subject all over the world.

The case was that this lecturer’s speeches at the UCU annual congress, in a debate over boycotting Israel, were not applauded (!) because of anti-Semitism on the part of fellow delegates. All 10 of his claims were thrown out by the tribunal. Its judgment said: “We greatly regret that the case was ever brought. At heart it represents an impermissible attempt to achieve a political end by litigious means”.

Had Mr Julius won, open discussion of Israeli policies would have become virtually impossible, especially as sections of the Jewish community now openly use litigation to put people off criticising Israel – or them."


You were talking about context, John. My argument is that I am reading the woman's statement in the proper and complete context. I wouldn't say that taking it at face value is dishonest, but I do think it is naive.

And finally, I suggest that a rhetorical response to a rhetorical argument is always legitimate. Insisting that one side use rigorous dialectic while the other engages in every form of emotional manipulation is neither right nor Aristotelian.

Anonymous Duke From January 15, 2015 5:02 PM  

"Britain may be their country of residence, but it is not their nation. France is not their nation. Israel is their nation."

No one ever suggested that England was the Jews' nation. However it most certainly is the nation and homeland to many Jews...who in turn are every bit as English as anyone else.

OpenID cailcorishev January 15, 2015 5:05 PM  

I don't think even Al Sharpton would be arrogant (or foolish) enough to claim that whites need blacks to lead them in giving up racism.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 15, 2015 5:07 PM  

Duke From

No one ever suggested that England was the Jews' nation. However it most certainly is the nation and homeland to many Jews...who in turn are every bit as English as anyone else.


No, you implied that they are more English than anyone else, because according to you only Jewish English citizens really "get" the Holocaust training of the last 60+ years. All the non-Jews are too stupid, or too venal, or too corrupted, to actually oppose anti Semitism, so their Jewish betters have to patiently explain it all to them over and over, like a teacher working with the midly retarded.

You appear to belive that English Jews are some sort of natural aristocracy with a God-given right to talk down to all others. Why?

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 15, 2015 5:09 PM  

Thanks for all the pointers to the Truth About Guns experiment. This is the sort of thing that tests out all the armchair generals, it's much more interesting than chit chat.

OpenID cailcorishev January 15, 2015 5:11 PM  

If there's a concern that her quote is being taken out of context, then why stop at the context of the paragraph it's from? We have lots more context than that, from numerous statements by Jews today to centuries of Jews feeling (correctly or not) that they need to control and guide the direction of nations to make themselves secure.

This isn't one unusual statement taken out of context; it's a statement that fits perfectly into and reflects the wider context.

Anonymous Grinder January 15, 2015 5:15 PM  

What a thriving nest of jews this site has become. Jews are still liars and thieves and more people are coming around to seeing this but they are still clinging to and promoting one of the biggest lies ever: that Jesus Christ was a jew. Modern day jews are not the same people as the ancient Hebrews/Israelites of the Bible. They were infiltrators even then that warped the religion of Moses even by Christ's time and continued to do so after murdering Our Saviour.
The bulk of jewry today is from the Khazar converts who never had any connection to Israel. Those Khazars formed the rabbinical talmudists who prevented the abolition of the kol nidre ritual which was a creation of talmudists centuries earlier and had nothing to do with the religion of Moses.
Christ himself identified the jews in John 8:44 for what they were and still are. Those are the 'jews' who killed him and their progeny who still share in the guilt and still deny His divinity. It's because they were never meant to recognize Him. He was sent only for the lost sheep of the House of Israel - the white Christians.
The best thing jews can do is to leave all white nations in peace and take their wealth with them while the getting is good. Skip the chatter, I am already wise to your lies and see how you screwed over other countries that you were 'fully assimilated' into in the past (WWI Germany and modern day USA) and can only reasonably expect further treachery from such a vile race.

Blogger Cogitans Iuvenis January 15, 2015 5:28 PM  

Ah, so what you are saying is that any person on country who wants to and could one day harm us must be attacked at any cost until they unilaterally and unconditionally surrender?

Nope, how you inferred that is beyond me. Saying that a nation, or a leader of a nation, considered us a threat is not the same thing as saying we preemptively attack a nation to ensure that they might never attack us. At best you could say that at some point a war would have broken out against US and Nazi Germany. I said the same thing about the US and Imperial Japan. To not look at history of the pacific from the Perry expedition up until Pearl Harbor and not see that the US and Japan were drifting towards war the entire time would be laughable. Nations/empires are not altruistic and will fight if they think they stand to loose something if they don't, or gain something of sufficient value.

Anonymous Duke From January 15, 2015 5:29 PM  

A paradigm...

I implied nothing. I stated clearly what I meant. It was this clarity that forced you to imagine what you think I implied.

In the same way that fishermen are likely to lead protests against anti fishing regulations, Cheistians more likely to speak out on anti Christian laws, and and Americans more likely to speak out against anti American regimes, it's not a stretch to assume Jews will speak out against anti Semitism.

In the end, the point is that the woman was not being rhetorical. She meant what she clearly said: English Jews must lead in calling out antisemitism in England.

Blogger Rabbi B January 15, 2015 5:31 PM  

"English Jews must lead in calling out antisemitism in England."

The questions is: "Why?"

Anonymous VD January 15, 2015 5:35 PM  

In the end, the point is that the woman was not being rhetorical.

"my blood ran cold; my hands started sweating. Dazed, I found myself in the work toilets shedding a silent tear. And then I realised why I needed to be alone: I felt scared."

Yeah, that's pure dialectic. Especially the appeal to Auschwitz. You're not intellectually tall enough for this ride.

Blogger SirHamster January 15, 2015 5:47 PM  

However; what if you question the numbers? What if you look at census records and conclude that not only could six million Jews not possibly have been killed in the Holocaust, but that it's problematic to even demonstrate that there were six million Jews in Europe during WW2? Or that the number of Jews in the world based on two counts bracketing WW2 are only off from each other by a few hundred thousand?

Summary of your fact-finding, please?

X Jews before War.
Y Jews after War.

X + Z Jews expected if no War, from natural increase.
X+Z-Y Jews killed in Europe.

Blogger Rabbi B January 15, 2015 5:50 PM  

" . . . .it's not a stretch to assume Jews will speak out against anti Semitism."

I don't think the assumption is really in question here. Entire organizations have been built around this assumption. "Never again!" remember?

Anonymous VD January 15, 2015 6:00 PM  

What a thriving nest of jews this site has become. Jews are still liars and thieves and more people are coming around to seeing this but they are still clinging to and promoting one of the biggest lies ever: that Jesus Christ was a jew. Modern day jews are not the same people as the ancient Hebrews/Israelites of the Bible.

Drop it, Grinder. It's difficult enough to maintain a civil and rational discourse on this subject without folks like you turning up the heat. The genetic argument is legitimate, and we can have at that some other time, but it's tangential and this is not the time for it.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 15, 2015 6:08 PM  

Duke From
In the same way that fishermen are likely to lead protests against anti fishing regulations, Cheistians more likely to speak out on anti Christian laws, and and Americans more likely to speak out against anti American regimes, it's not a stretch to assume Jews will speak out against anti Semitism.

That's not what she said. That's what you apparently wish she had said.

In the end, the point is that the woman was not being rhetorical. ?

Hahah! This is just foolish. Did her blood actually freeze in her body? No? Or Yes?

She meant what she clearly said: English Jews must lead in calling out antisemitism in England.

Because only English Jews have the wit to do so. Why is that? Because they are destined to lead, perhaps, by dint of birth?

Anonymous DukeFrom January 15, 2015 6:10 PM  

"You're not intellectually tall enough for this ride...."

Why not quote from the relevant passage you tried to pass off earlier as a claim that Jews think they should lead England? I mean this:

"Jews themselves, who are on the whole brilliant at assimilating, need to get better at publicly calling out anti-Semitism – instead of trying to distance themselves from the problem in embarrassment. My husband, for instance, wasn’t sure about me writing this column – fearing the backlash. There may be only 260,000 of us in the UK but if we don’t lead, how can the rest of society follow? " ...

Where she quite straightforwardly says Jews should lead in calling out anti-semitism....Not that they should lead England.

Blogger Bodichi January 15, 2015 6:14 PM  

@Cogitans Iuvenis

I asked:

""Yes. Explain why we needed to waste American lives, American money, and American equipment, fighting a war that wasn't about us.""

You Replied:

""Hitler's wrote in Zweites Buch, not published until well after his death, that ultimately a Greater Germany would fight a war against the United States in order. The entirety of the fighting by the Nazis was to establish a continental power that could one day challenge, and possibly defeat the United States.""

My question was why American lives had to be wasted in WW2 , you answer by saying Hitler wrote in a book that one day he would attack America.

You are being disingenuous. Your answered my question then tried to back out of it. Why?

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 15, 2015 6:16 PM  

Duke From
In the same way that fishermen are likely to lead protests against anti fishing regulations,

Has there been 60+ years of education in every school and many churches as well as the press over fishing regulations? If not, then this analogy fails.

Cheistians more likely to speak out on anti Christian laws,

Be specific, please.

and and Americans more likely to speak out against anti American regimes, it's not a stretch to assume Jews will speak out against anti Semitism.

And again, that isn't what she said. She said that Jews mus lead on this issue. Lead whom? Other English. Why? Well, you tell me.

Anonymous DukeFrom January 15, 2015 6:16 PM  

"Because only English Jews have the wit to do so. Why is that? Because they are destined to lead, perhaps, by dint of birth?"

Not destined, but perfectly positioned to lead on the issue of anti-semitism because in the end, it's the Jew's battle.

Blogger rycamor January 15, 2015 6:17 PM  

Can't you guys get that even with the most charitable take on this, the woman is being astoundingly arrogant. "Let's come to your country, and wherever we find someone speaking out against us, we're going to LEAD in calling it out, and the rest of you should just get in line and FOLLOW us in calling that out."

It's still an insult. I'm sure she managed to convince herself it wasn't, but imagine if the roles were reversed. Would the Jews take kindly to a Brit immigrating into their country and then assuming "leadership" of how Jews are supposed to regard Brits?

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 15, 2015 6:20 PM  

Where she quite straightforwardly says Jews should lead in calling out anti-semitism….

And the rest of Englad should follow. Why? Why are the rest of the English supposed to follow the Jewish English, again? After 60 years of Holocaust education, shouldn't they be able to think for themselves? Why is it needful for a handful of Jewish English to tell everyone else what to think?

And why can't you understand how arrogant this is?

Anonymous Duke From January 15, 2015 6:21 PM  

"And again, that isn't what she said. She said that Jews mus lead on this issue. Lead whom? Other English. Why? Well, you tell me. "

Here is what she said:

"Jews themselves, who are on the whole brilliant at assimilating, need to get better at publicly calling out anti-Semitism – instead of trying to distance themselves from the problem in embarrassment. My husband, for instance, wasn’t sure about me writing this column – fearing the backlash. There may be only 260,000 of us in the UK but if we don’t lead, how can the rest of society follow? "

If it's not clear to you that she means that Jews must take the lead in "publicly calling out anti-Semitism", rather than lead a group of people, then you have a much bigger problem than disagreeing with what I'm saying. You have a problem with reading comprehension.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 15, 2015 6:23 PM  

"Because only English Jews have the wit to do so. Why is that? Because they are destined to lead, perhaps, by dint of birth?"

Not destined, but perfectly positioned to lead on the issue of anti-semitism because in the end, it's the Jew's battle.

Excuse me, your Holocaust education is clearly defective. "First they came for the Jews….", right? So it's not the Jews battle, it's everyone's battle. Except, of course, when it's not.

She, and now you, are complaining that the English aren't obeying orders fast enough.

Anonymous Duke From January 15, 2015 6:27 PM  

"Can't you guys get that even with the most charitable take on this, the woman is being astoundingly arrogant. "Let's come to your country, and...."

Jews have been in England for centuries. And how do you know the writer's family hasn't lived in England for decades or centuries?

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 15, 2015 6:27 PM  

Quote from arrogant English Jewish woman:
"Jews themselves, who are on the whole brilliant at assimilating, need to get better at publicly calling out anti-Semitism – instead of trying to distance themselves from the problem in embarrassment. My husband, for instance, wasn’t sure about me writing this column – fearing the backlash. There may be only 260,000 of us in the UK but if we don’t lead, how can the rest of society follow? "

Duke From
If it's not clear to you that she means that Jews must take the lead in "publicly calling out anti-Semitism", rather than lead a group of people, then you have a much bigger problem than disagreeing with what I'm saying. You have a problem with reading comprehension.

Relevent text from arrogant English Jewish woman, in bold and caps:

if we don't lead, HOW CAN THE REST OF SOCIETY FOLLOW

Someone has a reading comprehension problem but it is not me.

Anonymous Duke From January 15, 2015 6:30 PM  

"She, and now you, are complaining that the English aren't obeying orders fast enough."

You continue to fail to comprehend simple words. My original feelings of contempt for you have turned to pity.

Blogger rycamor January 15, 2015 6:36 PM  

Duke From January 15, 2015 6:27 PM
"Can't you guys get that even with the most charitable take on this, the woman is being astoundingly arrogant. "Let's come to your country, and...."

Jews have been in England for centuries. And how do you know the writer's family hasn't lived in England for decades or centuries?

How does that matter? They still clearly see themselves as separate from the rest of England. If they have "assimilated so brilliantly" then what's the whole article about?

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