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Wednesday, January 21, 2015

Today Yemen, tomorrow the West

I have no doubt that the governments of Egypt, Iraq, and Yemen didn't think it was likely that jihadists would manage to topple them either:
Shiite insurgents tightened their grip on Yemen’s capital Wednesday, seizing control of a missile base and keeping the president as a virtual hostage in a showdown threatening a key American ally in the fight against al-Qaeda.

Days of fast-moving advances by the Houthi rebel faction — believed to be backed by Iran — has left the Western-backed government of President Abed Rabbo Mansour Hadi backed into a corner with rapidly diminishing options.

Just hours after storming the presidential palace on Tuesday, the Houthi leader gave what amounted to an ultimatum: Hadi can either move ahead with reforms that include giving rebels more power or risk intensified attacks that could topple his government.

The brinksmanship and uncertainly has pushed Yemen closer to a full-scale political breakdown that could resonate deeply in Washington and among its key regional allies, including neighboring Saudi Arabia.
Fortunately, we've been assured that Islam is a religion of peace and jihad is a personal, spiritual struggle, so there is no chance that a second Islamic State will aggressively seek to foment jihad in its neighbors. And even if it did seek to so, what could be more stable than a neighboring monarchy ruled by a 91 year-old man?

It's an Arab Spring in the making, it's just not a secular Arab Spring.

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91 Comments:

Anonymous Susan January 21, 2015 10:39 AM  

I did not realize there was a difference in Arab Spring. As in turtles, I thought it was muslims all the way down the stack.

Blogger IM2L844 January 21, 2015 10:42 AM  

Dueling caliphates? Can you play quarter notes on a banjo?

Anonymous Salt January 21, 2015 10:46 AM  

Waiting for a pic of Jane Fonda sitting on a Jihadi howitzer.

Blogger IM2L844 January 21, 2015 10:52 AM  

Before someone jumps on it, I meant quarter tones.

Anonymous Stilicho January 21, 2015 10:54 AM  

Ding! Ali vs Abu Bakr, Round Two (hundred).

Anonymous Respectabiggle January 21, 2015 10:56 AM  

Bet the Saudis are starting to feel squeezed from the north and the south.....

http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2015/01/saudi-arabia-on-the-edge-of-an-abyss.html

Blogger DaveofSpades January 21, 2015 11:01 AM  

I didn't realize that the first Arab Spring was a secular one.

Anonymous Rolf January 21, 2015 11:07 AM  

So why can't our state department be more effective at getting the different factions to fight a hard-core factional / sect battle of annihilation, sort of like the Russian plan to "let the tigers fight" strategy?

That's the bet solution for the west: keep arming both/all sides with small arms, then stand back and watch.

Anonymous Anubis January 21, 2015 11:10 AM  

"Waiting for a pic of Jane Fonda sitting on a Jihadi howitzer. "

That will be Hillary on the howitzer.

Anonymous Stephen J. January 21, 2015 11:14 AM  

A question for Vox: Given the two distinct "strains" of jihadist activity, Sunni and Shi'a, which strain if either do you think likeliest to prevail in an internecine conflict?

One of the reasons that I do not think Islam ever likely to beat the West by force (though I think it eminently likely that the combination of threatened force and guilt-based exploitation via immigration may ultimately cause more damage) is that because of its fundamental lack of a central theological authority Islam is too essentially prone to self-destructive factionalization and balkanization -- I see no way to resolve the Sunni-Shi'a split short of total extirpation of one side or the other. However, if one side were to achieve such extirpation, I am curious as to which people think it would be.

Anonymous Stilicho January 21, 2015 11:19 AM  


That will be Hillary on the howitzer.


Anyone else reminded of the bomb-riding scene from Dr. Strangelove?

Anonymous Rusty January 21, 2015 11:22 AM  

I have to think that Saudi Arabia is absolutely freaking out right now, given it shares a portion of its southern border with Yemen. It will be interesting to see what the Saudis decide to do, either directly or indirectly through the Americans.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 January 21, 2015 11:24 AM  

I have to think that Saudi Arabia is absolutely freaking out right now, given it shares a portion of its southern border with Yemen. It will be interesting to see what the Saudis decide to do, either directly or indirectly through the Americans.

ISIS is funded by the CIA. Well it was anyway. How do you think they got those American-made used trucks?

I'm fairly sure that there a bunch of Saudi princes who are funding ISIS as well.

Anonymous Stilicho January 21, 2015 11:29 AM  

Given the two distinct "strains" of jihadist activity, Sunni and Shi'a, which strain if either do you think likeliest to prevail in an internecine conflict?

Iran is becoming a regional power. ISIS success in Iraq is driving the rest of Iraq (the Shi'a) into Tehran's open arms. Kuwait and the Saudi oil fields (as well as other gulf states) are within striking range as well. Obama is supporting ISIS (against a Tehran-friendly Assad gov't) while Putin is supporting Iran. Expect proxy wars. Iran is stronger and Saddam isn't available as a foil any more. The question is one of how much territory they can take or effectively control. Right now the possibility of U.S. military involvement is the biggest deterrent to the Mullahs.

Anonymous Rusty January 21, 2015 11:30 AM  

SFM2: How does ISIS fit into this? We're talking about Yemen, not the countries formerly known as Iraq and Syria.

Blogger Owen January 21, 2015 11:36 AM  

Sheer numbers suggest Sunni would prevail, but within Sunni are several factions.

Blogger Owen January 21, 2015 11:37 AM  

I'm fairly sure that there a bunch of Saudi princes who are funding ISIS as well.

I wouldn't doubt they fund lots of competing forces, so they can claim them as allies if they win.

Anonymous cheddarman January 21, 2015 11:37 AM  

Vox,

You have mentioned before that the next iteration of the Ciceronian cycle of history would be an aristocracy.

If the would be aristocrats are Christian and work for the good of the nation, they would have my consent to

govern. Our current group of leaders operate as if they are detached from reality.

Anonymous zen0 January 21, 2015 11:42 AM  

Given the two distinct "strains" of jihadist activity, Sunni and Shi'a, which strain if either do you think likeliest to prevail in an internecine conflict?

They have been in conflict from time immemorial. (well, 700 anno domini, anyway)

I expect the current manifestation will see Iran keeping Baghdad in its sphere while the Sunni take down the Saudis so the Turks can eventually control that area. Possibly on a pre-arranged mutual understanding, and with Washington's co-operation.

On the other hand, who the hell knows?


Anonymous Rusty January 21, 2015 11:43 AM  

Who the hell knows...

Anonymous Difster January 21, 2015 11:46 AM  

Can't we just send the top feminist leaders from the US & Europe to the Middle East to put down the patriarchy and be caring and nurturing so as to bring about peace?

Anonymous Stilicho January 21, 2015 11:57 AM  

Can't we just send the top feminist leaders from the US & Europe to the Middle East to put down the patriarchy and be caring and nurturing so as to bring about peace?

Yeah, we tried that with Colin Powell. They sent her back.

Anonymous WinstonWebb January 21, 2015 12:02 PM  

OT,
Fucking Disney...

"...BBC’s entertainment correspondent Lizo Mzimba has suggested that The Force Awakens could feature the space saga’s first ever female stormtrooper in the shape of 30-year-old British actor Amybeth Hargreaves."

Blogger jaericho January 21, 2015 12:10 PM  

Yeah, I figured the female stormtrooper was inevitable. I never read much of the expanded universe, maybe someone can say if they were there or not. I'm reminded of the first film. Weren't all the top generals in the empire men? That'll change too.

Anonymous john grady January 21, 2015 12:26 PM  

What needs to be understood in the 4GW analysis is that this attack on Yemen is a Shi attack trying to take ground against the jihadi Sunni Wahibbi's originating in Saudi. Right now there is a massive territorial war that we Americans have stupidly put ourselves in the middle of, siding primarily with the Saudis for a Greater Saudi Arabia.

Before we idiotically invaded Iraq, war was certainly a choice. But now we've been drawn into this fight for so long that war is now upon us. Our only problem is that we are too cowardly to figure out who the primary enemy is, our apparent "friends" the Saudis. It is clear now that those folks hit us on 911, killed Marines on "safari" excursions in Iraq, gutted Iraq for their own greater dominance in the region through their proxy ISIS, and have attempted to gun down all Shia from Damascus to Tehran while using US weapons.

Who is the most evil regime in the Middle East? Our friends the Saudis. Who is Mordor? Our friends the Saudis. To whom must we declare war against, as they have already indirectly declared war on its own host? The Saudis.

Blogger Mekadave January 21, 2015 12:27 PM  

I can't ever remember a female stormtrooper or generals in the Expanded Universe, but during the X-Wing Rogue Squadron novels the leader of the Imperial Remnant (and former head of Imperial Intelligence) was a woman, Ysanne Isard.

Anonymous Corvinus January 21, 2015 12:29 PM  

I have to think that Saudi Arabia is absolutely freaking out right now, given it shares a portion of its southern border with Yemen. It will be interesting to see what the Saudis decide to do, either directly or indirectly through the Americans.

My impression is that the Saudis and other Arabs consider Yemen a chronically poor dirthole more than anything else. Yemen has next to no oil, unlike the other Arabian states.

Anonymous Mike M. January 21, 2015 12:31 PM  

Time to use the Obamic Bomb! Drop Obama on them....WITH a parachute. The destructive effect will be enormous.

On a more serious note, this is quickly getting ugly, with a potential to get uglier. The United States is not 100% fuel independent, though fracking has helped the situation immensely. Europe, on the other hand, imports most of their oil...and Japan nearly everything. And the major suppliers outside the Middle East are Russia and Venezuela.

Which explains why the Russians are fomenting trouble - it gives them the same sort of oil choke collar on Europe that the Saudis had on the United States for many years.

I'm seeing a distinct potential for the United States to wind up intervening. The problem being that the number of statesmen in the United States with the focus to grab the oil fields and pipelines ONLY, and not indulge in futile nation-building, can be counted on the fingers of one hand.

We live in interesting times...

Anonymous Anubis January 21, 2015 12:32 PM  

Female storm troopers would explain why they never seem to hit. Its far more believable than a black scientist that achieved on merit instead of credentialization.

Anonymous Rusty January 21, 2015 12:34 PM  

Corvinus, Yemen may be a dirt hole, but a flanking maneuver is a flanking maneuver. Now the Wahibbis find themselves with Shia on their east and south. Does this mean anything at all, at least tactically? I'm asking because I know enough 4GW to be dangerous. Save me from myself.

Blogger Mekadave January 21, 2015 12:35 PM  

George Washington Carver?

Blogger Mekadave January 21, 2015 12:38 PM  

Though I guess Carver could be said to be an exception.

Anonymous George of the Jungle January 21, 2015 12:49 PM  

Obama is a black hole from which no truth escapes.

Anonymous Crud Bonemeal January 21, 2015 12:52 PM  

>Yemen
>Key ally

Lulz.

We need to move towards a foreign policy where Yemen is not a key ally in any of our policies.

Would rule by Shiite militants be worse than rule by whoever rules Yemen now?

Is it any of our business? Should it be?

Anonymous George of the Jungle January 21, 2015 12:53 PM  

Obama is a black hole from which no truth escapes.

Anonymous p-dawg January 21, 2015 12:57 PM  

@jaericho: No, the Imperial generals were all male, I believe, but the Rebellion was led (including military actions) by a group which included Mon Mothma and Leia Organa, who also had large roles in the government of the New Republic.

Blogger YIH January 21, 2015 12:59 PM  

Mekadave:
Though I guess Carver could be said to be an exception.
Not really.
And he didn't invent peanut butter either.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus January 21, 2015 1:47 PM  

Of course, it's not as if Yemen's gubmint was all that stable to begin with...

Anonymous Alexander January 21, 2015 2:03 PM  

Frankly, I always equate Yemen with being one of the countries perpetually at the bottom of the shit barrel, palling around with... Rwanda, Zimbabwe, Afghanistan, etc.

So I for one commend them on doing something that will likely make things substantially worse, I didn't think they could find a way to do it.

Blogger Tom Kratman January 21, 2015 2:12 PM  

Ya know, if it is, in fact, a Shiite group of insurgents and, presupposing we've got no formal arrangment, such as would compromise our already iffy reputation, reliability as an ally-wise, we should probably stand back and smile. Or maybe we could offer an air strike or two in the interests of international chumship? Why, Because al Qaeda is pretty much Sunni, and hates Shiites, while the Shiites return the compliment in full measure. We might get more and better cooperation from the Shiites than we ever got from the Sunnis.

Anonymous Keck January 21, 2015 2:13 PM  

Muslim = Jihadist?

Why aren't the Muslims in the U.S. rising up?

Why are there so few Muslims rising up in the West?

if...

Muslim = Jihadist?

Anonymous Alexander January 21, 2015 2:23 PM  

Tom,

It's a good thing we'll have our Womyn Rangers when this whole Middle-east thing finally goes kablooie!

Blogger Tom Kratman January 21, 2015 2:25 PM  

Yeah....that's the ticket...

Anonymous WinstonWebb January 21, 2015 2:34 PM  

Point out the Muslim that declares the Charlie Hebdo violence was morally wrong and counter to Islamic teaching. There's your non-Jihadist.

Anonymous Dept. of Assurance January 21, 2015 2:37 PM  

Muslim = Jihadist?

Why aren't the Muslims in the U.S. rising up?

Why are there so few Muslims rising up in the West?

if...

Muslim = Jihadist?


Can you not read?

Islam is a religion of peace and jihad is a personal, spiritual struggle

Are you not assured?

Anonymous Brain Death January 21, 2015 2:40 PM  

How many Jihadists are non-Muslim?

Anonymous Brain Death January 21, 2015 2:42 PM  

How many Sharia no-go zones are predominantly non-muslim?

Blogger RobertT January 21, 2015 2:50 PM  

I thought allies came to your defense. Countries are going to start thinking twice about being an ally of the U.S.

Blogger ScuzzaMan January 21, 2015 2:50 PM  

There persists a latent suggestion that this is somehow a mistake, or an unintended consequence. And for many of those who think they are in a position of power, it might even seem to be so.

However, the practice of thesis - antithesis - synthesis is an ancient one, well documented for many ages.

The setting of Christian against Muslim, and consequent suppression of both - in the interests of peace, natch - fits this pattern perfectly.

Combine that with an elite political / financial class who think they can survive any upheaval, suppress any rebellion, and prosper no matter what, and the stage is set for an age of jack-booted face-stomping fun.

Anonymous Keck January 21, 2015 2:54 PM  

"Point out the Muslim that declares the Charlie Hebdo violence was morally wrong and counter to Islamic teaching. There's your non-Jihadist."

Ok...

http://www.alternet.org/media/45-examples-muslim-outrage-about-charlie-hebdo-attack-fox-news-missed

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/189630#.VMADiMZaay0

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/07/muslims-respond-charlie-hebdo_n_6429710.html

http://www.ibtimes.com/moderate-muslims-use-jesuischarlie-condemn-charlie-hebdo-attack-paris-1775986

Anonymous WinstonWebb January 21, 2015 3:00 PM  

There you go. Not Jihadists.

Anonymous Brain Death January 21, 2015 3:07 PM  

Who, ME a Jihadi? NOT MOI! Themz BAD PEEPLE!

One primary tenet of Islam is the "Taqqiya": Lying to facilitate the spread of Islam.

Blogger ChicagoRefugee January 21, 2015 3:19 PM  

Why aren't the Muslims in the U.S. rising up?

Because they're still less than 2% of population here, silly!

I guess Keck has never read this:

http://www.examiner.com/article/as-muslim-population-grows-what-can-happen-to-a-society

Anonymous Stickwick January 21, 2015 3:29 PM  

OT: Black knighting? Denver bakery under investigation after refusing to make "anti-gay" cake.

Anonymous Stilicho January 21, 2015 3:32 PM  


Oh yes, Al Azhar is a bastion of moderate Islam:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/18/us-egypt-azhar-idUSKBN0HD1AL20140918

Egypt has moved to curb one of the last bastions of Muslim Brotherhood dissent with sweeping new rules to curtail violent protest at Al Azhar University...

As the noose tightened around the Brotherhood, Al Azhar emerged as a hotspot in its battle against Egypt's new rulers...

The grand mufti, Egypt's top religious authority, and the grand imam of Al Azhar, have long lent their prestige to those in power and issued religious edicts to back government policy.

But the Brotherhood enjoys strong support within the student body as well as among faculty members, many of whom oppose Sisi and his crackdown on Egypt's oldest Islamist movement...


Why, Even General Sisi seems to think that Islam has a jihad problem:

"I say and repeat again that we are in need of a religious revolution. You, imams, are responsible before Allah. The entire world, I say it again, the entire world is waiting for your next move... because this umma is being torn, it is being destroyed, it is being lost — and it is being lost by our own hands."

More to the point, the existence of moderate Mohammedans, however lukewarm they may be in their moderation, however comparable to pink unicorns in their scarcity, or however Clintonesque in their veracity, does not change the fact that wherever Islam goes, jihad eventually goes with it.

Thanks for playing, Tad.

Anonymous Keck January 21, 2015 3:48 PM  

"There you go. Not Jihadists."

Nope. Not Jiddies.

Few Jiddies exist in the West. Don't be fearful.

Anonymous WinstonWebb January 21, 2015 3:56 PM  

I'm fearful FOR the non-Jihadists. Inevitably, the bloodthirsty animals that share their religion will perform another massive attack - they believe their deity commands it. The blowback will not be pretty, nor will it examine the level of individual devotion to the koran.
Genocide is not surgical.

Anonymous Zion's Paladin January 21, 2015 4:01 PM  

I never read much of the expanded universe, maybe someone can say if they were there or not. I'm reminded of the first film. Weren't all the top generals in the empire men? That'll change too.

Up through the New Jedi Order, I can say that there were no female stormtroopers that I can ever recall. The Empire had what was called the No HuMan policy, which basically meant that aliens and women were SOL.

As for Ysanne Isard, she was the head of Imp Intel, but the same series that she was introduced in highlighted the point that she was a bloody incompetent leader:

"Madam Director Ysanne Isard, I regret not being able to bring you this message personally, but not that much. In the time I have been associated with you I have found you to be sociopathically self-centered, prone to irrational and impulsive reactions to situations, and prey to a preference for appearance over substance. I have no doubt these affectations were seen as skills by the late Emperor, and indeed may have enhanced your ability to comply with his orders, but by no means are these traits that make for great, or even adequate leadership."

There was also an Admiral Daala, but her military skills were...lacking. The trilogy where she was introduced described her as a military genius but utterly failed to demonstrate it in any meaningful fashion as someone in charge of four Star Destroyers should be, to the point where a later book tried to justify it as her being a genius in ground tactics and a head injury.

Anonymous Alexander January 21, 2015 4:06 PM  

Keck doesn't. Keck is more than happy to reassure the minority that everything is totally fine, the papers you must show are a mere formality, and that there are no consequences to people who look like you and live among you acting violently against the host culture.

Piss off, Keck.

I've said it before: the rabbits, fearing being out-grouped and revealed as treasonous weasels will, in a desperate bid to return safely to their natural ethnic and cultural fold, be the loudest voices calling for genocide.

This will be fueled by the fact that that is how the react when the are scared of something - get rid of it! And you can be certain that a reality that defies everything about their world view being violently thrust upon them will scare them.

So assuming Keck isn't playing cultural cover for *his* side, the good Muslim is advised to keep an eye on those westerners like him: as soon as they start going quiet, it is most certainly time for you to take your families and find shelter elsewhere. When they start screaming, it is almost certainly too late.

I should make a weather vane, and replace the rooster with a rabbit.

Blogger Mekadave January 21, 2015 4:17 PM  

Ah yeah, I had forgotten about Daala. Well, she was good at faking her own death, at least! :-p

Anonymous Keck January 21, 2015 4:55 PM  

Alexander....

Speak English.

OpenID luagha January 21, 2015 4:57 PM  

Words are cheap. Whiskey costs money.

I'm only impressed when moderating muslims pick up their rifles and shoot the extremists dead. General Sisi looks to be walking the walk.

Anonymous takin' a look January 21, 2015 5:07 PM  

-Stilicho

It's not a good example. She offered to bake the cake and put most of the decorations and frosting on and then offer him the frosting to write up what he wanted. What's needed is a raging sjw that utterly refuses to make the cake in the first place or refer him to a bakery that would do it for him. Not this mewling rabbity compromising gal.

Remember, most of Conservative.Inc are "live and let die" conflict avoidance types middle-grounders just like SWPL liberals. The Cowslip influence is strong among them.

*Just had a thought. Wouldn't it be hilarious if SJWs attacked the baker for even compromising? (Light-bulb!) Supposed SJWs........

OpenID luagha January 21, 2015 5:18 PM  

On the bakery topic:

Remember that these bakery cases are being prosecuted mostly under 'place of public accomodation' laws where anyone who bakes wedding cakes and puts messages on them for the public is required to serve anyone who meets their stated price regardless of race, creed, color, sexual orientation, or message.

The baker's offer to provide frosting for the customer to write his own message is meaningless. He doesn't have the skills to write his own cake frosting message and make it look good; that's why he's paying a professional. He could go somewhere else but he doesn't want to; just like the gay wedding couple who were given other options of places to go but refused.

Blogger ChicagoRefugee January 21, 2015 5:36 PM  

Few Jiddies exist in the West. Don't be fearful

Tell that to Lee Rigby. Or Colleen Hufford. Or Nathan Cirillo. Or Brendan Tevlin. Or ....

Anonymous takin' a look January 21, 2015 5:39 PM  

-luagha

I figured, thanks. Still, this is as much a fight for the court of public opinion as anything else. The Cowslips are gonna see it as she at least tried to be accommodating. Unless she goes all SJW attacking Christians, white male patriarchy, etc. She's not going to look in the wrong here.

Anonymous Alexander January 21, 2015 5:48 PM  

Keck,

Per the rules of the blog, please answer this direct question:

What did I say that was not in English?

Don't be shy to cite specific sentences: I wouldn't want a language barrier in this discussion.

Or else don't be a disingenuous little shit to avoid the charge.

Anonymous Salt January 21, 2015 5:51 PM  

Well, Stick, just wait till someone requests a cake with the Gammadion Cross. That should go over just as well. According to Wiki, "It is considered to be a very sacred and auspicious symbol in Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism."

Anonymous Keck is a Dhimmi January 21, 2015 6:30 PM  

The problem ain't so much the Jihadist, its the Sharia-ist. Concentrate enough moon god worshipers in one place, and that is what you get.

Blogger Chris Mallory January 21, 2015 6:50 PM  

For your viewing pleasure:
SJW have taken over the earth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM-HJT8_esM

Blogger jaericho January 21, 2015 7:10 PM  

Hah! Don't try and pull an M. Night Shamalamadingdong on me. I figured out the twist at the end of that video. I knew it was 2016-01-18.

Anonymous Harsh January 21, 2015 7:12 PM  

Why aren't the Muslims in the U.S. rising up?

The key word you left out of that sentence is "yet."

Anonymous Keck January 21, 2015 8:51 PM  

"The key word you left out of that sentence is "yet." "

Jihiddies won't rise in the US. Delusional a will. They will be greeted by power seeking Christians and Jews and seculites that merely wish to control resources.

All believers are the same: power whores.

Anonymous Harsh January 21, 2015 9:12 PM  

@Keck
If I understand what you're saying, I agree that the Muslims in the US are being held back by Christian/secular/Jewish power. But what happens when they grow in numbers enough to challenge that power? That was the point.

Anonymous Tallen January 21, 2015 9:57 PM  

The Houthis are a secular movement not a religious one. Yemen is a good example of 4GW, not jihad.

Anonymous Keck January 22, 2015 12:17 AM  

"If I understand what you're saying, I agree that the Muslims in the US are being held back by Christian/secular/Jewish power. But what happens when they grow in numbers enough to challenge that power? That was the point."

They will start PAC. Run for office. Win some, lose some. If you are worried about Sharia....Don't.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit January 22, 2015 2:05 AM  

The gays and the wymyns are welcoming their muslim overlords. You couldn't make it up.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit January 22, 2015 2:27 AM  

...Time to invest in a stone quarry

Anonymous Discard January 22, 2015 1:06 PM  

Keck: We had only a few Chinese when I was a boy. Now they own a few cities.
We had no Iranians when I was a boy. Now they're well on their way to owning Beverly Hills.
Koreans will own La Cresenta.
Armenians nearly own Glendale.
And of course, when I was a boy, the Mexicans were much fewer, and much like us working class Whites.
Hindus have their lobbying groups. Do we need another wealthy minority bribing and blackmailing Congress?

Less than half the babies in this country are White, and you would have us lie back and let yet another bunch of aliens move in and displace us.

Anonymous Keck January 22, 2015 1:15 PM  

"Now they own a few cities."

Modesto?

"We had no Iranians when I was a boy"
Are you 175 years old?

"Do we need another wealthy minority bribing and blackmailing Congress?"
Depends who the minority doing the blackmailing and bribing represents, I guess.

"Less than half the babies in this country are White"
What's the percentage of Beige and Off-white babies?

"and you would have us lie back and let yet another bunch of aliens move in and displace us."
Depends how well the new babies do in paying into the kitty.

Anonymous Discard January 22, 2015 3:17 PM  

Keck: The Chinese own Arcadia, San Marino, and San Gabriel, and are working on Alhambra and Temple City.
The Iranians, arrogant, snotty, and rich, flooded in after 1978, when the Shah fell.
What minority would you prefer to be bribing Congress and blackmailing Congress?
You are a lying sack of shit, all smart ass and no substance. Does it go over well at parties? No doubt your parents thought you were cute and clever. Good boy!

And the newcomers don't pay much into the kitty. The Mexicans are dumb and poor and work for cash. The Chinese and Hindus and Iranians are smart and crooked. They keep separate books in their own languages, and it would be racist for the IRS to dig too deep. They have all kinds of little shops that stay in business for years with no customers, which are fronts for concealing their real income.

Anonymous Keck January 22, 2015 3:44 PM  

"Keck: The Chinese own Arcadia, San Marino, and San Gabriel, and are working on Alhambra and Temple City."

That's all they got? You'd think with their billion people and all....

"And the newcomers don't pay much into the kitty."
What about those rich, arrogant, snotty Iranians and the town-owning Chinese that seem to do pretty well?

"The Mexicans are dumb and poor and work for cash."
They make a mean salsa and I pay by credit card a the tacquaria.

"What minority would you prefer to be bribing Congress and blackmailing Congress?"
The one that will get Cuba open for travel and the one that wants the potholes on my street fixed.

"You are a lying sack of shit, all smart ass and no substance"
I beg to differ. I am not a liar. And you just don't like the character of my substance. Plus. You smell poopy.

Blogger TheCitadel January 22, 2015 5:45 PM  

Government now resigned. Country is officially an anarchical failed state. Nice job, West

Anonymous Discard January 22, 2015 5:57 PM  

Keck: Smart ass bullshit all the way. Only works on ignorant foreigners and multi-cults.

Anonymous Keck January 22, 2015 6:28 PM  

"Smart ass bullshit all the way"

You should take yourself more seriously.

Blogger Cogitans Iuvenis January 22, 2015 7:34 PM  

And the Saudi King just died....

Anonymous Discard January 22, 2015 8:16 PM  

Keck: YOU should take me more seriously. Do you really think that your kind will win? A coalition of the malformed, the alien, and the stupid?

Blogger TontoBubbaGoldstein January 22, 2015 9:21 PM  

@Stilicho

Anyone else reminded of the bomb-riding scene from Dr. Strangelove?

Ain't nothing *Slim* about Hillary!

Anonymous Keck January 23, 2015 12:21 AM  

"Keck: YOU should take me more seriously. Do you really think that your kind will win? A coalition of the malformed, the alien, and the stupid? "

I can tell if I think I'll win, but first you have to tell me what game you think you are playing.

Anonymous Discard January 23, 2015 9:02 AM  

Keck: Not a game, and you know it, liar.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus January 23, 2015 3:30 PM  

No matter who is toppled or how, it can still be peaceful.

"Hundreds of people have gathered at a rally in Sydney's west in protest over negative coverage of Islam and treatment of the Prophet Mohammed."

While police said more than a dozen people were moved on from the rally for breaching the peace, the event was peaceful.

Mr Badar said the protests in the name of free speech had nothing to do with freedom.

"We also gather to place the politics of the events in France in the correct context," he said.

"Freedom is the smokescreen with which Western politicians and media conceal the underlying issues.

"In reality free speech is one of the many political tools that are used to maintain dominance over the Muslims."

...

Hamzah Qureshi, a spokesman for the controversial group Hizb ut-Tahrir, which helped organise the event, questioned the prime minister's comments and the suggestion the event could incite violence.

"No one should be asked to apologise for or distance themselves from something they are not responsible for," Mr Qureshi said.

"I would however mention that it's interesting that the question of whether a Muslim event will be peaceful or violent consistently seems to come up."


That's just the usual, though funny.

What I really liked was: "Police later said in a statement that the event had been concluded peacefully, although 14 people were removed for breaching the peace. No charges were laid."

Anything Muslim seems to be officially peaceful now, including, literally, beaches of the peace.

Why not peaceful Islamic assassinations, coups and revolutions then?

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