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Saturday, January 17, 2015

Underlining their case

We don't appear to be dealing with strategic masterminds here:
Foreign intelligence agencies have intercepted discussions by Islamist militants about possible attacks on weekly marches organised by Germany's new anti-Islamic movement, a news weekly reported on Friday, without citing its sources.

Der Spiegel magazine said that foreign intelligence services had picked up the content of communications by some "known international jihadists", without giving specific details.

The intelligence, which was passed to German authorities, indicated they had discussed possible attacks on the rallies organised by the so-called group, "Patriotic Europeans Against the Islamisation of the Occident" (Pegida), the magazine said in a pre-released story to appear in this weekend's edition.
I can't think of a better way for Muslims to transform the anti-Islamic marchers into anti-Islamic soldiers. Then again, I wouldn't put it past the European authorities to try to scare the growing pro-Pegida forces into staying home.

And nothing fails like past success. Since intimidation has succeeded so brilliantly for so long in Europe, it may be that this is a case of jihadists with a hammer seeing a nail. Meanwhile the French authorities are already demonstrating that they, at least, are not Charlie:
Justice Minister Christiane Taubira said yesterday the French government was going to tighten laws against racism and anti-Semitism.
It astonishes me how abysmally stupid these people are. Do they really believe placing the cause of free speech in ideological alignment with the most virulent racists and Jew-haters is going to change the way anyone thinks or feels? Especially in light of assertions such as these:

"To laugh at the Prophet... is something very different from “free speech” as usually understood. It is a violent act." - Abdal Hakim Murad, the Telegraph

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91 Comments:

Anonymous Stg58 / Animal Mother January 17, 2015 2:15 PM  

That would be colossally stupid to attack the PEGIDA marches. Even for abunch of inbred knuckle draggers, this is stupid.

Anonymous Mike M. January 17, 2015 2:31 PM  

I think we're seeing a major political crisis developing here, of a magnitude not seen since ~1916-17.

The Islamic terrorists are on the offensive. Nonviolently when they can prevail through intimidation, violently when that doesn't work. The political classes, across the normal political spectrum, have ALL failed, in a way not seen since the First World War. The public is now entertaining serious doubts about the competence of the ENTIRE orthodox political leadership, who no longer seem willing or able to maintain order.

Toss in the issues with the Eurozone, and you have a recipe for revolution. Not necessarily of the blood-in-the-streets sort, but a political flush that will end the careers of most of the current political class and replace them with very different people.

This won't be pretty. The pressure has been building for over a decade. The only question is how violent things get, and how the repercussions play out on this side of the Atlantic.

Anonymous Earl January 17, 2015 2:40 PM  

I don't understand why the Muslims don't just wait peacefully and bide their time? That's all they have to do to win. It is like they're intentionally setting out to undermine liberalism, the culturally suicidal philosophy that guarantees their eventual success.

Blogger ScuzzaMan January 17, 2015 2:43 PM  

I'd be interested in your view of the Pope's recent statement on the limits of free speech, because he seemed to agree with Mr Murad that speaking your mind on certain subjects is a violent act fully deserving of violent retaliation.

I'm of the view that violence is never justified by mere words, neither for a Christian nor as a simple matter of common sense, but I have to admit I'd be hard put to gather a billion and a half people to agree with me ...

Anonymous Stg58 / Animal Mother January 17, 2015 2:43 PM  

Earl,

They don't play that game because they don't think they'll lose. They believe Allah is guaranteeing their success no matter what. Plus, no one has stood up to them so far.

Anonymous Trollslayer January 17, 2015 2:47 PM  

"I'd be interested in your view of the Pope's recent statement on the limits of free speech,"

oh dear... now you did it.

Anonymous Roundtine January 17, 2015 2:54 PM  

It's obvious they're not too smart based on their lack of attacks. They also lack an understanding of the Western mind because they have thus far failed to generate terror. Fox News and CNN are much better at terrorizing the people when a single child goes missing, or one person dies from Ebola. I saw today that 45 children have died from the flu this year, is your child safe?!

Blogger stats January 17, 2015 2:55 PM  

The Islamic terrorists are on the offensive. Offensive, please, this is blowback from the turmoil caused in the middle east by Israel and her proxy war chest, the United States. These most recent terrorist got their training from ISIS, who got their weapons and training from Israel and the CIA. And, to top it off, damn muzzies wouldn't be in Europe if not for Jewish One-World open-borders idealogy. So, yes, I blame it all on the Jews. Muzzies have no power that hasn't been granted by the Jews for their own ends.

Anonymous Grinder January 17, 2015 2:56 PM  

I agree with Stg58 plus I suspect they may consider the currently non-extremist muslims to be an untapped reserve that they can mobilize if they can spark western backlash against muslims in general. It is a bonus if our already deeply divided nations (patriotic nationalists vs cosmopolitan liberals and globalist capitalists) can get bogged down in internal squabbling.

Blogger Plump Pleasant Plumber January 17, 2015 2:57 PM  

Yeppers, they believe that women run things here. So, we're contemptible. Gonna be interesting to see......do we have enough young men who haven't been ruined by feminism? Or has our society collapsed internally? I honestly couldn't say. Here's the problem as I see it...The moslems are colonizers, not immigrants. They consider themselves superior in every way to western societies. There are no moderate moslems. Taqiyya is a tactic to lie and decieve. We are under attack by leftist-marxists as well.

Anonymous H2 January 17, 2015 3:04 PM  

Somewhat on-topic in regards to the MSM and Islam, jury selection started this week for the Boston Marathon bombing, so we should expect even more Islam apologist articles.

Anonymous The other skeptic January 17, 2015 3:06 PM  

No doubt Muslims will be happy with grindr for showing them where all the fudgepackers are.

Anonymous j January 17, 2015 3:13 PM  

I hope they do attack the PEGIDA marchers. Talk about martyrdom: every European murdered by Muslim parasites is a martyr that helps to kill the myth of multiculturalism in the minds of his countrymen.

It's sad that Muslims are murdering satirists and beheading people on the streets in Europe, but it's also going to be what ultimately saves Europe from Muslim demographic takeover and Sharia law.

Blogger Bob Wallace January 17, 2015 3:15 PM  

Sure, get the Germans mad. They were kicking our asses in WII - military scholars have pointed out 100 German soldiers were worth 105 American soldiers. The last people in the world anyone wants to get made are the Germans.

Anonymous Anonymous January 17, 2015 3:22 PM  

"No doubt Muslims will be happy with grindr for showing them where all the fudgepackers are."

Pitch or catch?

- Touko Laaksonen

Anonymous Salt January 17, 2015 3:27 PM  

weekly marches organised by Germany's new anti-Islamic movement

As once posted, a friend's German friend said, "Michael, we Germans, when we hear the drums, we all get and march."

Blogger Plump Pleasant Plumber January 17, 2015 3:37 PM  

The Germans that we are looking at today are very different from the ww2 crowd. These are feminised Germans. Not PC, just plain fact. The warlike Germans were truly dangerous. These Germans today are what's left after most of the true masculine men were killed off in ww2. Character breeds, and there weren't enough men left. Take a look at German society. That's why Islam believes they will win. Take a look at German soldiers in combat for the last 30 years. No comparison. The French are worse. They have a national record for surrender. And before we get on our high horse in the USA, we confront the EXACT same problems.

Anonymous LES January 17, 2015 3:57 PM  

I agree with stats.
THE TEMPLE MOUNT
in Jerusalem is believed to be the site where Solomon’s Temple (832 BC to 586 BC) and Herod’s Temple (20 BC to 70 AD) once stood. Jesus prophesied the destruction of Herod’s Temple which was completely razed in 70 AD by the Roman Emperor Titus.
Today on the Temple Mount stands the third most holy site of Islam, the Dome of the Rock and the Al-Aqsa Mosque built in 691AD.
Many Zionist Jews believe that a Third Temple must be built on the Temple Mount for their Messiah. Many Zionist Christians (not me) believe that a Third Temple must be built before the Second Coming of Christ.
The only way a Third Temple can be built is if the Dome of the Rock is destroyed. That can only happen when the neighboring Muslim countries have been subdued to the point that they cannot retaliate on Israel when the Dome of the Rock is destroyed. The Muslims know very well that this is the plan.
The US goverment, with the support of Zionist Jews and Christians, supports Israel with our military interventions and our tax money. I don’t know if there is anything that can be done to prevent a future conflict over the Temple Mount. I believe this is what the "War on Terrorism" is all about.
http://www.marktebeau.com/photos/dome-of-the-rock/

OpenID cailcorishev January 17, 2015 3:59 PM  

I don't understand why the Muslims don't just wait peacefully and bide their time?

Presented for your consideration, the average IQ of some nations, from Lynn and Vanhanen:

Turkey 90
Saudi Arabia 83
Iran 84
Pakistan 81
Libya 84
Lebanon 86
Morocco 85
Algeria 84
Sudan 72
Somalia 68

We're not talking about strategic masterminds here.

Anonymous Noah B. January 17, 2015 4:04 PM  

"To laugh at the Prophet... is something very different from “free speech” as usually understood. It is a violent act." - Abdal Hakim Murad

Good news, though. Timmy Winter "is a traditionalist and considers the views of extremists like al-Qaeda as religiously illegitimate and inauthentic."

So much for the myth of the moderate Muslim.

OpenID cailcorishev January 17, 2015 4:06 PM  

I'd be interested in your view of the Pope's recent statement on the limits of free speech

Don't know whom you were asking, but as a faithful Catholic, I respectfully considered it as my religion requires, decided it was meaningless cant, and discarded it. Perhaps after swearing a bit.

Anonymous Anonymous January 17, 2015 4:29 PM  

Mr, ScuzzaMan:

You posted in part:

"I'd be interested in your view of the Pope's recent statement on the limits of free speech"

IIRC the Vatican spokesman (Fr. Lombardi SJ) said the Pope was making a "joke"

See: http://www.pewsitter.com/page_1.html for links

God bless

Richard W Comerford

Anonymous Feh January 17, 2015 4:33 PM  

Jihadis want to scare off the timid, and more importantly, induce the authorities to ban the marches as "too dangerous and provocative". The latter might well succeed.

Anonymous Daniel January 17, 2015 4:35 PM  

The Venerable Jorge may have been a hero...but he was also wrong.

Blogger Nate January 17, 2015 4:41 PM  

The last line of the column:

" Not all the lawsuits would succeed, but the community would have shown that it is determined to enjoy the protection of our country’s laws. "

Hey raghead. Its not your country.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus January 17, 2015 5:06 PM  

"Justice Minister Christiane Taubira said yesterday the French government was going to tighten laws against racism and anti-Semitism."

This underlines that the authorities are hypocrites. They say they can't meet the demands of faithful Muslims but they can. If they can tighten laws against racism and anti-Semitism, they could instead tighten laws against resistance to Islam. They have the power to regulate public opinion in the way faithful Muslims want; they just refuse to use the power for the Muslims' cause, instead using it for the Jews' cause.

And always we hear this nonsense that "free speech" warrants blasphemy against Islam and disrespect for the Prophet PBUH. It's perfectly consistent with "free speech" as the authorities understand it to put people in jail for denying the Holocaust, so it must be consistent with "free speech" to jail them for denying Islam.

"To laugh at the Prophet... is something very different from “free speech” as usually understood. It is a violent act." - Abdal Hakim Murad

That's the view that's taken of denying the Jewish narrative; there's no reason why it couldn't instead be the view that's taken of denying the Muslim narrative.

The question is who is to be master, that's all.

Anonymous Anubis January 17, 2015 5:13 PM  

I don't understand why the Muslims don't just wait peacefully and bide their time?
Along with IQ being mostly genetic, abstract thought (time/space/planning/numbers) is the last capacity to develop even in East Asian/white kids.. Muslims are feminist because they allow emotions to dictate their actions.

Anonymous Idle Vlad III, Voivode of Wallachia, House of Drăculești January 17, 2015 5:15 PM  

These fucking Turks.

If only you had listened.

Anonymous 11B January 17, 2015 5:19 PM  

The Germans that we are looking at today are very different from the ww2 crowd. These are feminised Germans.....

The same appears to go for the rest of Europe. I think Europe has been irrevocably changed to the point that comparing today's Europe with that of fifty years ago is impossible. I mean it's not like there hasn't been provocations that in times past would have brought out the lynch mobs. But today the voices of submission and understanding outweigh any primal call to tribalism.

For example, does anyone believe the rapes of over 1400 girls in England would have happened fifty years ago without some of the offenders paying the price through some sort of extra-judicial justice? Does anyone believe the French would have reacted to this terror incident by clamping down on the so-called right wing, rather than non-French who don't even belong?

And it is not just the European reaction to muslims. Look at the Scots who fought tremendous battles centuries ago for independence, but voted against it for the promise of more money from London.

Look at the Greeks who as recently as the 1920s were still fighting to complete the independence of Greece from muslim rule. In fact there are still a few people alive with living memories of what it was like during ethnic cleansing of populations between Greece and newly formed Turkey. Yet Greeks of today, who should know better, are letting in thousands of muslim aliens, and have arrested the leaders of the only party that speaks out against it.

And the saddest thing of all is that contemporary Europeans are not being coerced into submission by force of arms. If this were the case, one might hope of rebellion someday. But this is not the East Bloc police states of the Cold War. Modern Europe is held in submission by gun-averse, feminized leaders who just hold out the promise of more freebies if you only go along with their program. It is really sad to think of all those who struggled before against totalitarian regimes, foreign occupations, etc., only to see their children totally submit for more geld.

Anonymous Anubis January 17, 2015 5:25 PM  

The simplist solution is for all the marchers to carry bacon bits that way muslims wont blow themselves up near them.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus January 17, 2015 5:36 PM  

ScuzzaMan: "I'd be interested in your view of the Pope's recent statement on the limits of free speech, because he seemed to agree with Mr Murad that speaking your mind on certain subjects is a violent act fully deserving of violent retaliation."

Why shouldn't the Pope get in for his chop too?

We have passed from the era where religious supremacy and the silencing of contrary voices by the violence of the state was too much to ask. We are back to the situation where it's just a question of who enjoys privileged status. Ultimately there can only be one religion above all, silencing opposition and enforcing its dictates by law. Currently the Jews have top dog status. The Muslims want to seize that status from them. If the Pope doesn't want Catholics to have top dog status, he isn't doing what used to be understood as his job.

ScuzzaMan: "I'm of the view that violence is never justified by mere words, neither for a Christian nor as a simple matter of common sense, but I have to admit I'd be hard put to gather a billion and a half people to agree with me ..."

If you can put people in jail for Holocaust denial and "come down like a ton of bricks" on any hint of antisemitism, which is the position of the authorities now, you can put people in jail for Christ Is Risen denial and "come down like a ton of bricks" on any hint of anticatholicism. The violence of the state is the same in both cases.

"Free speech" now is like the Roman altar of victory: both have been torn down, and whoever relies on the protection of either of them is out of date.

The new situation is: silence and obedience are enforced by violence. This can be done top-down, by elite influence and money, the ways Jews have done it, or it could theoretically be done bottom-up, by jihad, the ways Muslims are trying to do it.

The question is who is to be master, that's all.

Blogger 5stonegames January 17, 2015 5:38 PM  

11b, sexual abuse and degeneracy is quite common in England and elsewhere and always have been . The urban poor have always been expendable as well and that's mostly whose those poor Rotherham girls were as such, disposable people.

Heck it was only after 1720 or so that the age on brothel girls was raised to 12 as a humane measure. This perversion is nothing new.

Also assuming that a spirit of rebellion was afoot, the hardest part for anyone is deciding what to become and what kind of society to build. Its harder than most people think hard enough that the goal of imposing Sharia Law is the only actual edge the Muslims have,

If European folk can come up with an alternative, a reformed monarchy, a new tribalism, Northfire style fascism, a local flavor of Christendom , Asatru whatever they can do it quite easily.

And in case anyone asks, no more Universal Christianity is not the answer . Its an imported meme strain from the Middle East blended with our own traditions anyway, its not ours and almost anyone today is using it for cheap social capital instead of actual spiritual gains. As such, it often creates more trouble than its worth.
A caveat to that, a local strain Russian Orthodox in Russia, French Catholicism in France might have value if the church is natal, European focused and most important, designed around the needs of its people. heck maybe Asatru is right for Iceland who knows but whatever it happens, must be local and as such the Tranzis are the thing that must be checked first.

get rid of the globalists and the EU bureaucrats and concentrate the local needs and than you can do the hard part, create and show people something worth sacrificing for.

if that is done, Europe can be helped. If not,? I dunno.

Blogger Markku January 17, 2015 5:52 PM  

Israel did the Charlie Hebdo massacre, Pravda sez.

I know, I know, JOOOOOOOOOOS!!!!

But Russia taking this position is geopolitically significant.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus January 17, 2015 6:24 PM  

"I can't think of a better way for Muslims to transform the anti-Islamic marchers into anti-Islamic soldiers."

Just marching in the knowledge that jihadists are having discussions about possibly killing them will have a morally strengthening effect.

Anonymous 11B January 17, 2015 6:32 PM  

But Russia taking this position is geopolitically significant.

Markku, keep in mind the author of that piece is one Paul Craig Roberts. He is an interesting fellow and quite often writes things that are "out there".

Blogger Markku January 17, 2015 6:35 PM  

I see. Can't say I'm familiar with that fellow.

Anonymous Wyrd January 17, 2015 6:39 PM  

"To laugh at the Prophet... is something very different from “free speech” as usually understood. It is a violent act." - Abdal Hakim Murad,

The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam,
-Obama

Anonymous Noah B. January 17, 2015 6:42 PM  

Well, the claim that the killers left their ID in their getaway car (which I hadn't heard anywhere else) does contrast pretty strongly with the story that they were "terrorist commandos" the US media has portrayed. They were probably just guys with AK's who were willing to remorselessly kill people, but the media wants us to think that this requires some rare and unusual skill.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus January 17, 2015 7:16 PM  

Abdal Hakim Murad: "Scorn towards despised minorities is a hazardous business. During the days of Nazi terror, cartoons supplied a key weapon of anti-Jewish polemic. To laugh at the Prophet, the repository of all that Muslims revere and find precious, to reduce him to the level of the scabrous and comedic, is something very different from “free speech” as usually understood. It is a violent act surely conscious of its capacity to cause distress, ratchet up prejudice and damage social cohesion."

As with "Islamophobia," which was mimicry of "homophobia," Muslims are mimicking a dominant victimhood narrative. The aim is to be dominated no longer by the professional victims who have ruled, but to dominate oneself.

Muslims are not the ones that set the new rules, by which an aggressive minority with victimhood paranoia has the right to dominate the white majority. But they are determined to use the new rules in their favor, to the maximum effect.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey January 17, 2015 7:18 PM  

It's entirely possible that the Merkel regime is sponsoring the Islamic radicals and deploying them against PEGIDA marchers.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey January 17, 2015 7:24 PM  

the so-called group, "Patriotic Europeans Against the Islamisation of the Occident" (Pegida)

Why the "so-called"? PEGIDA is their name.

Anonymous Noah B. January 17, 2015 7:31 PM  

"Why the "so-called"? PEGIDA is their name."

The use of "so-called" is a smear. It's a refusal to acknowledge that PEGIDA is patriotic or that the West is being Islamized.

Anonymous cecilhenry January 17, 2015 7:56 PM  

The anti-racism laws will be used against whites NOT the Moslems mainly as it is not. Anti-racist = anti-white.

ONE Problem: AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY??

The West including Canada cannot be defined simply by the rejection of Islam or as a collection of legal norms. It is a culture created by a specific people and it will be destroyed if that people is dispossessed. Europeans everywhere have the self-evident right to secure their homelands for themselves, without regard to the claims others make upon it.

Anonymous Giuseppe January 17, 2015 8:02 PM  

Well, thing is, Muslims gonna muslim, BUT I think it's significant that the present day descendants of the anglo-american elites (banksters) who funded ww2 also tried to kick off a war in Syria and were foiled by Putin.

Then they tried to create a war in most of Europe by sponsoring a Nazi coup in Ukraine and again were mostly foiled by Putin.

It would not take a long stretch to see they may be using muslims to try and kick off a jihad/crusade in Europe.

The global ponzi scheme is very close to implosion and the only way to avoid it is a massive ww3 that hopefully doesn't use nukes...much...

So to me, like I said, muslims gonna muslim, but that's not to say there isn't bankster money behind it all. Maybe also explains all the suiciding bankers who come across large evidence of this?

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus January 17, 2015 8:08 PM  

Not to be coldly practical, but what a great way for PEGIDA to get and keep the moral high ground, the key to successful 4GW.

Blogger Nate January 17, 2015 8:12 PM  

"I know, I know, JOOOOOOOOOOS!!!!"

Markku... JOOOOS is not the perferred nomenclature. Jews. or JEWS... please.

Blogger Nate January 17, 2015 8:14 PM  

"Look at the Greeks who as recently as the 1920s were still fighting to complete the independence of Greece from muslim rule. In fact there are still a few people alive with living memories of what it was like during ethnic cleansing of populations between Greece and newly formed Turkey. Yet Greeks of today, who should know better, are letting in thousands of muslim aliens, and have arrested the leaders of the only party that speaks out against it."

Indeed.

My great great grandmother was stabbed to death by the mooooslime pig dogs. Took 5 of them and the old women still fought them the whole time.

Anonymous The other skeptic January 17, 2015 8:21 PM  

No doubt freedom of speech has to be inclusive enough.

It keeps getting crazier and crazier.

Anonymous The other skeptic January 17, 2015 8:25 PM  

So to me, like I said, muslims gonna muslim, but that's not to say there isn't bankster money behind it all. Maybe also explains all the suiciding bankers who come across large evidence of this?

You are such a cynic!

Anonymous Giuseppe January 17, 2015 8:37 PM  

You are such a cynic!
Actually I think I am a wildly optimistic man, given that I think I see pretty clearly how the world works and yet I have not climbed a tower at an intersection with a bank, the house of parliament/government and a lawyer firm.

Anonymous Wyrd January 17, 2015 8:43 PM  

No doubt freedom of speech has to be inclusive enough.

It keeps getting crazier and crazier.


Real vaginas oppress fake vaginas, natch.

It's a madhouse! A madhouse!

Anonymous zen0 January 17, 2015 10:08 PM  

@ Guiseppe

So to me, like I said, muslims gonna muslim, but that's not to say there isn't bankster money behind it all. Maybe also explains all the suiciding bankers who come across large evidence of this?

Or the suiciding investigator that was handed the C. Hebdo file?

Bin Laden referred to Andalusia in his Fatwa......but these muslims today are no Andalusians. Andalusians were intellectuals, versed in science and philosopy, these guys are simply gang-bangers with an IQ to match.

What a gong show. The Golden Age of Islam was not produced by these morons.

Anonymous takin' a look January 17, 2015 10:16 PM  

Well apparently senior CNN newsman Jim Clancy has stepped down after 34 years because of a Twitter blow-up. Hasbara

How dare he use the "c" word! /sarc

Anonymous zen0 January 17, 2015 10:20 PM  

@ the other skeptic

It keeps getting crazier and crazier.

No. It keeps getting more like itself. The best thing to do is encourage this type of behaviour.

(I am herewith announcing, as a Canadian, that I shall continue to use proper English spelling like our Southron brethren, out of respect for our particular cultures.)

Anonymous zen0 January 17, 2015 10:30 PM  

takin' a look January 17, 2015 10:16 PM
Well apparently senior CNN newsman Jim Clancy has stepped down after 34 years because of a Twitter blow-up. Hasbara


Speaking of Hasbara:



Maurice Sinet, 86, who works under the pen name Sine in the satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo, faced charges of "inciting racial hatred" for a column he wrote in 2009. The piece sparked a slanging match among the Parisian intelligentsia and ended in his dismissal from the magazine.

"L'affaire Sine" followed the engagement of Mr Sarkozy, 22, to Jessica Sebaoun-Darty, the Jewish heiress of an electronic goods chain. Commenting on an unfounded rumour that the president's son planned to convert to Judaism, Sine quipped: "He'll go a long way in life, that little lad."

A high-profile political commentator slammed the column as linking prejudice about Jews and social success. Charlie Hebdo's editor, Philippe Val, asked Sinet to apologise but he refused in a very strictly manner.

Mr Val's decision to fire Sine was backed by a group of eminent intellectuals, including the philosopher Bernard-Henry Lévy, but parts of the libertarian Left defended him, citing the right to free speech.

As mocking young Mr Sarkozy converted to Judaism for money, Sine was accused of being Anti-Semitic and faced many preassures leading him to be fired from the weekly magazine. The same magazine published cartoons even insulting the Islam Prophet Muhammad and Muslims yet explained them as “freedom of speech.”

Charlie Hebdo published cartoons about Prophet Jesus and Chiristianity, too, causing the magazine being sued 12 times by Catholic Chuch.



Kinda blows the Mossad theory out of the water, unless one wants to turn into a pretzel (g--d forbid)

Anonymous Apocalypse Now January 17, 2015 10:35 PM  

Sweet.

Anonymous takin' a look January 17, 2015 10:45 PM  

-zen0

Kinda blows the Mossad theory out of the water, unless one wants to turn into a pretzel (g--d forbid)

How so? This spate of terrorist attacks has been GREAT for the $aturdays. Its anudder shoah maw! It gets the "good muzzies"-the demographic jihadis- marching alongside the DWLs-which they are to replace along with the rest of the Hajnal line whites-and the poor, down-trodden, Eternal Victims denouncing weapons and free speech for the goy. The spin is a master stroke of genius.

Not that I actually hold such a cynical view of things-Heaven forefend!- it's just a cui bono possibility observation.

Blogger Shibes Meadow January 17, 2015 10:51 PM  

The Muzis had better watch out. The last time the Krauts went to war they took on the whole world and almost won.

New post up at the Shibes blog, all.

Anonymous zen0 January 17, 2015 10:58 PM  

Eternal Victims denouncing weapons and free speech for the goy. The spin is a master stroke of genius.

Well, if you think they are that evil, there is nothing I can say, except, If that is the case, they got a lotta 'splainin' to do.

Anonymous Corvinus January 17, 2015 11:02 PM  

"Justice Minister Christiane Taubira said yesterday the French government was going to tighten laws against racism and anti-Semitism."

It astonishes me how abysmally stupid these people are. Do they really believe placing the cause of free speech in ideological alignment with the most virulent racists and Jew-haters is going to change the way anyone thinks or feels? Especially in light of assertions such as these:


It seems to be a typical SJW reaction... to double down on the retarded ideas.

Blogger James Dixon January 17, 2015 11:13 PM  

> For example, does anyone believe the rapes of over 1400 girls in England would have happened fifty years ago without some of the offenders paying the price through some sort of extra-judicial justice?

To be fair, we don't know they haven't. It's not like they would advertise the fact.

Anonymous I See What I See January 17, 2015 11:52 PM  

Somebody needs to hide the Nate/Josh homo stuff. It's obvious.

Anonymous Wyrd January 17, 2015 11:58 PM  

Somebody needs to hide the Nate/Josh homo stuff. It's obvious.

You know that Ralph Steadman artwork from Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas? That's the image I get here.

Anonymous Susan January 18, 2015 12:10 AM  

The story last year that really warmed my heart and gave me hope was when British rugby fans put a hurt on muslims.

I dunno James. I suspect that we are only just finding out how long this who kiddie fiddling scandal has been going on. 50 years ago was right during the height of the sex, drugs and rock and roll of the 60's. I believe that decent people were more willing to take matters into their own hands though, so it is possible.

Anonymous takin' a look January 18, 2015 12:20 AM  

-zen0

Well, if you think they are that evil, there is nothing I can say, except, If that is the case, they got a lotta 'splainin' to do.

Tut-tut, you are thinking like an antiqued White Westerner with meritocratic "morals" and "ethics" for all. You have to think inside the box marked "clannish". What is evil within the clan is not evil outside of the clan if it promotes clan aims and agendas. That's all there really is to it.

As I said, I entertained the proposition, but without hard proof, I simply don't know, it's just a feeling...

Blogger Jew613 January 18, 2015 12:27 AM  

The Turks are going to discover the Germans are not Armenians. The Germans will grow tired of the Muzzies and deal with Islam in their German way. Once they set out on a course they take it all the way. Even if right now the Germans seem feminized the same national spirit still exists even if suppressed and the Muslims will learn this to their horror. The German authorities should change course before the situation worsens. But I dont think that will happen. They are too tied to the multi-cult as a means of keeping the current elite in power.

As for the French authorities these laws restricting free speech will not change anyone's opinion. It will only lump the Jews in with the Muzzies and hard leftists. The upcoming elections and the choices the FN make will decide France's future.

I also think outlawing Holocaust denial is stupid. If someone hates my people I'd rather know then they simply keep the hate to themselves. This way they hate but hate quietly.

Anonymous takin' a look January 18, 2015 12:39 AM  

-Jew613

The Turks are going to discover the Germans are not Armenians.

I'm sure they will, but why use this comparison? It was mostly Selânikli Dönme Jews who organized and carried out the slaughter of the Christian Armenians. Hanafites need not apply

Blogger LP 999/Eliza January 18, 2015 1:01 AM  

Oh Frick, to laugh at the prophet?!

Doom!

Nah, the majority of the lands cannot handle the banker theft then be told about religions like Islam, most people not born into a false pro, ain't gonna be easily converted so let the flames begin - for either revival or something darker.

Anonymous LES January 18, 2015 1:05 AM  

In the spring of 1989, a Palestinian terrorist murdered an Israeli soldier. Twenty years later in Dubai, the Israeli secret service agency Mossad avenged the killing.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/an-eye-for-an-eye-the-anatomy-of-mossad-s-dubai-operation-a-739908.html

Blogger Jew613 January 18, 2015 1:13 AM  

Takin a look,so your claiming the Armenian genocide was actually organized and carried out by the descendants of the Jewish followers of the false-Mashiach Shabbtai Tzvi who converted to Islam in the 17th century?

Anonymous takin' a look January 18, 2015 1:21 AM  

-LES

In the spring of 1989, a Palestinian terrorist murdered an Israeli soldier. Twenty years later in Dubai, the Israeli secret service agency Mossad avenged the killing

Well, to be fair, he was a HAMAS arms dealer and logistics planner for missile strikes into Israel. A better comparison would be John Demjanjuk. That was one hell of a fiasco. It does however, clearly demonstrate what the Clan type mentality is like. Vengence now, vengence forever!

Anonymous 11B January 18, 2015 1:26 AM  

To be fair, we don't know they haven't. It's not like they would advertise the fact.

James, if someone were to go after the Rotherham rapists, the cops would be all over them and it would be highlighted as a hate crime, much like the once-in-a-blue moon white-on-black crime is in the USA.

It is so bad that a couple of the rape victims, now in their 20s, were arrested by police when they confronted their rapists in the streets.

The police are not even giving the girls the home field advantage that teams usually get from referees in football games. Think about that. Just like most home teams can generally get the refs to give them the benefit of the doubt, most police forces would be expected to give the natives the benefit of the doubt over the foreigner. But even in this case, the knee-jerk police reaction was to arrest the white women who were "harassing" the non-whites.

When your own officials default to the side of the 'other', what's the point?

Anonymous 11B January 18, 2015 1:42 AM  

My great great grandmother was stabbed to death by the mooooslime pig dogs. Took 5 of them and the old women still fought them the whole time.

It's one thing for the British or Germans to accept muslim immigration, but quite another for the Greeks. Not that I accept it in any case, but one could make the point that the Brits and Germans have no experience with muslim occupation. But this is not the case for the Greeks.

For almost 500 years the Greeks were under Ottoman rule. Some parts of Greece have not even had 100 years of independence since the end of that rule. During the occupation they clung to the Greek Orthodox Church to protect their culture, language and identity.

Now less than 100 years later they are not only accepting of muslims moving back into Greece and setting up mosques, but they are actively attacking the one party who wants to put an end to this. Additionally, they don't seem to care too much for the Greek Orthodox Church, and one can only guess how much longer they will even care to preserve their identity.

How can a people just give up? It seems that the actions of contemporary Greeks would make their ancestors from the past 500 years roll over in their graves. What was the point in resisting the Ottomans and preserving their identity when they end up just allowing anyone to come as they please?

I hope the bennies from the EU were worth it.

Anonymous takin' a look January 18, 2015 1:51 AM  

-Jew613

Takin a look,so your claiming the Armenian genocide was actually organized and carried out by the descendants of the Jewish followers of the false-Mashiach Shabbtai Tzvi who converted to Islam in the 17th century?

For the most part, it does seem to have had a very heavy Dönme component. it isn't increasingly being called "Talaat's Slaughter" for nothing.

American-delegate's-views-onYoung-Turks

The Young Turk leaders, who were, be it remembered, largely from European Turkey, Moslemized and Turkized Jews and Thracians

This is from American delegates/diplomats to the area during 1917-1921. Should I declare my eyes are lying upon reading these words?

Anonymous A.B. Prosper January 18, 2015 1:58 AM  

11b, the point is the same on both sides, win. Police always support the state anyway, its who pays the bills. Some US police are different but its fairly abnormal in the bigger world and in the US case, they are usually local police paid locally in a small town or rural county. I'd bet rural UK constables are somewhat similar in that manner.

If the English get tired enough of the situation its up to to them to put aside that stiff upper lip, stop being calm and carrying and and decide just what kind of society that want. At that point they can make it happen. If it goes the hard way I think the temptation they'll have to face is too leave too much of the old established systems in play.

That's a really bad idea IMO the model here to copy is Henry the 8th , break the established church, the cathedral utterly.

I don't think its time though, we are impatient but we are most reactionaries and many of us do not live on the UK . As viles as this abuse situation is there are a few more spins of the election cycle to try. I'm not optimistic UKIP or whatever will work but again I'm not in the UK so what do I know?

After that they need to wait till the US is weakened a bit more if it goes to extremity. Otherwise the Nero-Cons will just pull another Kosovo.

And yes I am aware of my misspelling, I means Neo-Cons but the mistake is actually better anyway.

Anonymous takin' a look January 18, 2015 2:06 AM  

-Jew613

That quote is on page 193, scroll over.

Anonymous Toby Temple January 18, 2015 2:13 AM  

Let them anger Germany some more. Then Merkel and cohorts will not be able to stop the German people to lead Europe to war against the Muslims from Europe to the Middle East.

Anonymous takin' a look January 18, 2015 2:20 AM  

-Jew613

so your claiming the Armenian genocide was actually organized and carried out by the descendants of the Jewish followers of the false-Mashiach Shabbtai Tzvi who converted to Islam in the 17th century?

I have to come back to this. it's a nice example of "DISQUALIFY!"

Blogger dfordoom January 18, 2015 2:49 AM  

"Jihadis want to scare off the timid, and more importantly, induce the authorities to ban the marches as "too dangerous and provocative". The latter might well succeed."

It almost certainly will succeed. The Left will see this as a golden opportunity to crush what little resistance might still exist.

As for the idea that modern Germans will stand up for themselves, don't make me laugh. There's not enough testosterone in the whole of modern western Europe to fill a teacup. The Germans will adopt the same cowardly groveling approach as the French.

Blogger Cataline Sergius January 18, 2015 5:50 AM  

Tom Kratman had a good article on this.

I think they keep doing it, keep engaging in random terror, not because of the unique success with regard to Spain, but because they don’t understand why it doesn’t work. Why not? Why don’t they understand that?What do you think?

I suspect that they don’t understand it because they know themselves very well; they know random terror would work on them.


Precisely. Salafist leadership is basically Arab. And trust outside families is simply non-existent for them. Consequently random terrorism works just fine in their culture. The first nail that pops up, is the first one that gets nailed down..

Blogger Jew613 January 18, 2015 6:36 AM  

Takin a look I read your source and while turkized Jews are mentioned as part of the young turk leadership though not as the dominant or primarypart .

Besides which taalat pasha was a sunni Muslim Turk not Jewish or even descended from Jews. The same is true of all of the three pashas and the senior Turkish military leadership.

Blogger ScuzzaMan January 18, 2015 7:12 AM  

Thanks all for the answers.

Anonymous Corvinus January 18, 2015 8:28 AM  

I also think outlawing Holocaust denial is stupid. If someone hates my people I'd rather know then they simply keep the hate to themselves. This way they hate but hate quietly.

@Jew613
Yeah, it's stupid and counterproductive. If someone wants to say the Holocaust never happened, it'd be much simpler to point out the drop in the Jewish population in the affected countries before and after. After all, they did have censuses back then. Throwing deniers in jail and fining them just makes large numbers of people suspect that the deniers are onto something.

But again, SJWs aren't known for bright ideas... and are known for doubling down on terrible ones.

Anonymous takin' a look January 18, 2015 8:34 AM  

-Jew613

No dear, you are being disingenuous and you know it. If Jews didn't play a central role in the Armenian Holocaust, they wouldn't give a fig about the Masonic Turks covering it up or not; close relationship with Israel or not. The fact Jews globally DO avoid or change the subject on this issue is enough to give me credit to those delegates and to Christopher Bjernkes.

Blogger James Dixon January 18, 2015 7:13 PM  

> James, if someone were to go after the Rotherham rapists, the cops would be all over them and it would be highlighted as a hate crime, much like the once-in-a-blue moon white-on-black crime is in the USA.

Who would report the crime? Or do you think those no go zones exist only in France?

Anonymous Told ya January 18, 2015 11:12 PM  

Were the jihadis really so dumb? They can say... ALLAH AKBAR, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/germanys-anti-islam-pegida-march-dresden-canceled-over-concrete-threat-n288456

German authorities canceled a march by the anti-Islam PEGIDA movement in Dresden due to a "concrete threat" against the group's weekly gathering, officials said Sunday.

PEGIDA — or "Patriotic Europeans against the Islamization of the West" — drew 25,000 people at its last rally in eastern Germany. While some of the PEGIDA protesters are believed to be right-wing extremists, the majority are not believed to be. The group's protests, fueled by fears that the country could be overrun by Muslims and other immigrants, have alarmed German officials.

Dresden Police said in a statement Monday that it had received information relating to a "concrete danger" in connection with PEGIDA's weekly rally and that it was banning the demonstration and public gatherings in the city for Monday.

"Attackers were called on to intermix with the PEGIDA demonstrators in order to commit a killing of single members of the PEGIDA organizing team," Dresden police president Dieter Kroll said in a statement. "We have to act on the assumption that there is an immediate danger to the lives of all participants in the demonstration."

Anonymous Discard January 19, 2015 1:05 PM  

takin' a look: If Jews worldwide actually do avoid or change the subject when the Armenian Genocide comes up, it's likely because they aren't interested. I don't care to talk about it, why should they? They'd probably rather talk about their dogs or Tudor England, as I would.

Anonymous takin' a look January 20, 2015 8:35 AM  

I agree Discard, so the next time you or your kinfolk kvetch and wheedle over how much the hollow-cost like a cheap six beer queer attention whore. Well, please don't mind me when I direct my attention elsewhere into the fascinating foraging habits of barred truffle boars on spiked leather leashes in fairy rings, it would be far less ghey.

Anonymous Discard January 21, 2015 2:21 AM  

takin' a look: I'm not a Jew. And I don't read holocaust stuff, so I surely don't mind if you turn away from it too.

Anonymous takin' a look January 21, 2015 3:30 AM  

-Discard

Then why respond to my responses to Jew613? I see a lot of references to Nazi Germany here. It's a trope that gets over-done.
As an awake and aware gentile, I like bringing up the Jewish dominated role in the Holodormor and the Armenian Holocaust. Jews don't like it, which is a good thing in my book.

To me, integration and multiculturalism is a massive failure. Jews have two homelands now, Israel and the Jewish Autonomous Oblast of Birobidzhan; they need to ALL leave and chose either one to settle in and keep out of the affairs of the White Gentile West. No more fifth columnists with dual loyalties.

Anonymous Discard January 22, 2015 5:20 AM  

takin' a look: While I do not hate Jews, I mistrust them as a group. In the corrupt language of our day, many would describe me as an anti-Semite. The publicly acceptable view of people with my views is that we are mindless, frothing, evil people, who should not be allowed to speak, let alone be listened to. For that reason, I am cautious about what I say. If I tell somebody that I think that Jews are or tend to be this-and-such, I can at least explain why I think so. For the same reason, I am against blaming Jews for things I don't think they did. I would agree with you that Jews probably, and perhaps provably, played a big part in the Holomodor, the Ukrainian genocide of the early 1930s. But I have never heard anybody accuse them of being behind the Armenian genocide of 1915. I used to work with a lot of Armenians, and none of them ever mentioned any such thing.
…..I am against falsely accusing anybody of anything, but as an "anti-Semite", it is necessary for the sake of credibility to not overstate the case.

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