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Monday, February 09, 2015

Brain-hacking the rabbits

It's really rather remarkable how much rabbit behavior is explained by the r/K model. It puts into perspective so much of what looks completely inexplicable to the sane and more conservative mind that is neither ruled by rhetoric nor dependent upon social status.

The Anonymous Conservative has cogitated upon the matter and thinks he may have come up with a means of helping the poor, frightened rodents escape the limits of their failed ideology through hacking their brains.
When John Scalzi claimed 50K unique visitors per day on his blog, it didn’t matter whether he had that accomplishment or not. What mattered from the rabbit perspective is if he could create that impression. As in all of rabbitry, the reality flows from the impression, which itself need not flow from any tangible reality. Scalzi claimed it, it was parroted in an article, people got the impression that he had social status, and as a result, social status flowed from the impression.

This offers the prospect of creating interesting brain hacks, if the K-strategist can train themselves to operate within the liberal cognitive framework. Presently Conservatives concern themselves with reality, and ignore social status. We assume that success is Thomas Edison, and not Kim Kardashian, and our arguments are formed around that assumption.

Instead, the Conservative should focus more on creating memes which socially diminish and denigrate liberals, making them appear impotent and inferior. Since to the leftist, reality flows from impression, and social dominance is all important, you must create memes which tie an anchor of inferiority and impotence to leftists, and let the reality flow from that.

As an example, what the rabbit meme Vox created does at its core is create an impression of inherent inability, unfitness, weakness, and social inferiority, and attach it cleverly to those who embrace the r-strategy of liberalism. Once those circumstances are created, and the meme’s permeation is great enough that the rabbit cannot escape it, it will prove amazingly unsettling to the rabbits, for whom impression is reality, and reality is impression. Here is a popular impression saying liberals are weak and impotent. Since to the rabbit truth is what other people think, if they self-identify as a liberal, then they will be accepting that people will think they are weak and impotent, and this will make them weak and impotent. (In many ways the rabbit’s perception is actually an accurate read of the reality in a r-selected world.)

At that point, a liberal brain will have only one pathway to alleviate the amygdala angst generated by the social damage it sees flowing from that meme – the rabbit can only tell itself that it isn’t a rabbit. To divorce itself from rabbitry, it must abandon every issue that is a part of the rabbit’s r-selected reproductive strategy, and then turn its back on the rest of the warren of rabbits.
No wonder they so hate being called rabbits. What I find remarkable about what AC is doing here is the way he is articulating and putting into practice some of the principles that Aristotle first elucidated in his Rhetoric. After all, of whom do you think Aristotle was writing when he described those whose minds cannot be changed by information?

Speaking of rhetorically limited minds where reality flows from the impression, I found this comment by a rabbit to be all too typical":
David W. on said:
Sorry, but a DNA test result doesn’t make one a “Native American”, but the writers of this horsecrap couldn’t care less about fact, obviously.
Fascinating. One wonders what would suffice to make one a "Native American" if not DNA, particularly when it says "Native American" on the DNA results and the Bureau of Indian Affairs issues Certificates of Indian Blood.

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122 Comments:

Blogger J Curtis February 09, 2015 8:06 AM  

A feather in your bonnet. Now THAT would go a long way towards dispelling the whole 'you're just not native American' myth

Blogger Nate February 09, 2015 8:09 AM  

"One wonders what would suffice to make one a "Native American" if not DNA, particularly when it says "Native American" on the DNA results and the Bureau of Indian Affairs issues Certificates of Indian Blood."

Perhaps you have to sell feathered trinkets at the casino gift shop.

Blogger Nate February 09, 2015 8:09 AM  

i mean... you had the mohawk and everything!

Blogger Owen February 09, 2015 8:13 AM  

High cheek bones.

Worked for Fauxcohantus.

Anonymous Stingray February 09, 2015 8:14 AM  

Rabbit people are effeminate at their core. Everything AC describes seems innate to women.

So, here's something else to do. Create strength as well. Not only is taking away their status necessary, but creating strength to draw them towards is necessary as well. That is why Castalia house is so important (as well as GamerGate). It will start to draw more of the unknown rabbits to it as it gains in popularity and further decrease the status of those rabbits in power.

As Blue Sci/Fi gains popularity, coming up with your own awards and completely forgoing the Hugos or Nebulas or what-have-you might be another option. Taking over the Hugos would blow their minds, but making it utterly irrelevant? I think it would go even further.

Anonymous FrankNorman February 09, 2015 8:14 AM  

That's still relying on evidence - which a Rabbit isn't going to accept if doing so would make its amygdala hurt.

Anonymous Stingray February 09, 2015 8:15 AM  

One wonders what would suffice to make one a "Native American"

Status. You have no status in the tribe. The thought that you could get it from the DNA results must be terrifying to them.

Blogger Owen February 09, 2015 8:15 AM  

Fascinating. One wonders what would suffice to make one a "Native American" if not DNA, particularly when it says "Native American" on the DNA results and the Bureau of Indian Affairs issues Certificates of Indian Blood.

Seriously, though, the reason they won't accept is because you're not sufficiently stereotypical of Native Americans.

You see, if you acted more like he thinks they act, spoke the way he thinks they spoke, thought the way he thinks they think, etc. THEN you'd pass his test of being a good little indian.

Anonymous Ed Itor February 09, 2015 8:16 AM  

It puts into perspective so much of what looks completely explain to the sane ....

I am having difficulty with this second sentence. It is making me insane.

Blogger Markku February 09, 2015 8:20 AM  

I am having difficulty with this second sentence.

Guessing it should be "what looks completely plain to the sane..."

Blogger Iowahine February 09, 2015 8:21 AM  

One wonders what would suffice to make one a "Native American" if not DNA, particularly when it says "Native American" on the DNA results and the Bureau of Indian Affairs issues Certificates of Indian Blood.

The same thing that made Bill Clinton the first Black president.

It's not just the impression, but their perception. And it's true; liberals behave fairly consistently as women do. So, it's not what's there; it's what I want to see there - just now.

Blogger Iowahine February 09, 2015 8:23 AM  

Owen: You see, if you acted more like he thinks they act, spoke the way he thinks they spoke, thought the way he thinks they think, etc. THEN you'd pass his test of being a good little indian.

You're not supposed to think like a pale skin; you're supposed to hate white Christian males, as liberals do.

Blogger Vox February 09, 2015 8:28 AM  

I am having difficulty with this second sentence. It is making me insane.

I was interrupted in mid-sentence and picked it up incorrectly. Corrected.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 09, 2015 8:30 AM  

I have found that the rabbits can explain exactly nothing, beyond their rhetoric they are completely helpless. If it weren't for conservatives to play the intellectual they would have a lot less authority and with less authority their propaganda will be much less effective.

Disqualification works both ways.

Blogger Vox February 09, 2015 8:31 AM  

You have no status in the tribe. The thought that you could get it from the DNA results must be terrifying to them.

I suppose they wouldn't be happy about the checks from the casino profits either. Oh well. They must not be real money either. (Down, Nate! Down!)

Blogger njartist February 09, 2015 8:37 AM  

@ Owen
You see, if you acted more like he thinks they act, spoke the way he thinks they spoke, thought the way he thinks they think, etc. THEN you'd pass his test of being a good little indian.

Vox needs to go to the nearest fish kill from a power plant and let a tear roll down his cheek at the sight of the White man's hubris.

Anonymous Daniel February 09, 2015 8:38 AM  

The only good Indian is a DNA-free Indian?

That is...novel.

Blogger IM2L844 February 09, 2015 8:42 AM  

I guess this explains why rabbits are so keen to create ever expanding layers of the X as a social construct impression.

Blogger bob k. mando February 09, 2015 8:48 AM  

Daniel February 09, 2015 8:38 AM
That is...novel.



that is Elizabeth Warren and Ward Churchill.

Blogger Nate February 09, 2015 8:54 AM  

So the 19th century indian stereotype was alcoholism... the 21st century indian stereotype is Casinos....

And honestly... "(feather, not dot)" must just drive the rabbits batshit crazy.

Anonymous Jon Bromfield February 09, 2015 8:57 AM  

Interesting that Indians are the only minority us white folk will brag about having in their family tree. A Navajo friend told me that the Cherokee enjoy a joking reputation among Native Americans of being highly sexed because so many white people claim descent from the tribe.

I myself am proud that there is a Comanche or two in my family woodpile!

Anonymous Indian Name DooFus February 09, 2015 8:59 AM  

Vox, you've missed the point of your own post.

The cited article explains that proof, to rabbits, is public acceptance, not scientific fact. Global warming is real because of the consensus, not because of the thermometer.

You will never be an Indian - no matter how much DNA you have - until you receive tribal recognition, as public acceptance is standard of proof used by both the Indian Tribe and the Rabbit Warren.

I had an intern who grew up in Cloquet on the edge of the Fond-du-Lac Reservation, looked like an Indian, her mother was full blooded, but her ancestors came from three different tribes. Each of those tribes decided she didn't have enough ancenstors In That Tribe to be recognized as a tribal member so she's not enrolled in any tribe and thus not considered Native American by Native Americans themselves (although she is a member of the Native American Lawyers Section of the Bar Association - they'll take anybody with a checkbook).

Blogger bob k. mando February 09, 2015 9:03 AM  

hey, Nate.

i found your next bass boat.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a13872/sea-slice-navy-warship-auction-180000/

Anonymous Cryan Ryan February 09, 2015 9:03 AM  

There once was an Injun named Day,
Oh..the Gawd awful things he would say...
Then along came a rabbit,
And as was his habit,
Vox bent him over & had his way.

Anonymous BlackJack February 09, 2015 9:05 AM  

When is Castalia House going to start selling turquoise jewelry?

Anonymous Salt February 09, 2015 9:08 AM  

That's still relying on evidence - which a Rabbit isn't going to accept if doing so would make its amygdala hurt.

Look at the rabbits who show up here, arguing their own definition of what constitutes evidence. Remember the idiots who said only what science provides is evidence? Guess DNA isn't science, when it comes to Vox.

Blogger Cataline Sergius February 09, 2015 9:09 AM  

As an example, what the rabbit meme Vox created does at its core is create an impression of inherent inability, unfitness, weakness, and social inferiority, and attach it cleverly to those who embrace the r-strategy of liberalism.

This point, (which I do agree with), raises the question of how self aware is John Scalzi?

He commissioned that ridiculous Gamma Rabbit thing and made it his personal heraldry. By embracing the suck, he was attempting to take the sting out of the stigma that Vox had created.

Yes, Gamma Rabbit, who likes people as they are, fears no one no matter how they live their lives, and who is comfortable with himself and his own personal values of kindness, tolerance and diversity. Sure, there are some who look down on him and his ways, but you know what? Gamma Rabbit knows that those people are kooky, silly, wacky racist sexist homophobic dipshits, and aside from looking forward to the day when they might pull their heads out and join the rest of the human race, lets them alone to do their own thing. Because Gamma Rabbit has other, better people and things to think about.

Well done, John. No, girl who has just been rejected from the cheer squad could have said it any better.

..fears no one no matter how they live their lives...

Now that is telling little phrase because Gamma Rabbit is clearly and obviously scared shitless of something.

Anonymous Jay February 09, 2015 9:09 AM  

Look at the mess us humans (leftists particularly) have become.

God really fucked up in kicking us out of Eden, our brain damage has been severe.

To be born into a world where the child (eventual leftist) awaits extreme abuse in his childhood and youth, and then to be told by people later in his life that he is evil, is truly terrible.

No wonder rabbitry has taken over. God is truly beautiful, but he's also gotta be the biggest fuck-up ever.

Blogger Rabbi B February 09, 2015 9:14 AM  

" When John Scalzi claimed 50K unique visitors per day on his blog, it didn’t matter whether he had that accomplishment or not.. . ."

Quite revealing. So much of their "strength" lies in numbers, which, I imagine, is one of their strongest impressions or perceptions that serves to reaffirm their position no matter how much their position is assaulted by the truth. After all, how can so many rabbits be wrong? Social status also flows from this perception. Isolate the little buggers from each other, and they would never venture out of their holes.

Probably why David-and-Goliath-type stories never lose their appeal: who doesn't love seeing reality and truth wiping the smirk off the smug face of arrogance and hubris? You only have to observe how viscerally they react to the smallest beam of light to understand how fragile they really are. Since their eyes will never be able to adjust, perhaps it's easier for them just to sit in the dark and claim they can see.

Blogger Owen February 09, 2015 9:16 AM  

You will never be an Indian - no matter how much DNA you have - until you receive tribal recognition, as public acceptance is standard of proof used by both the Indian Tribe and the Rabbit Warren.

I think you have a point, but I also think you forget what the Warren would do if a tribe did recognize Vox.

They'd attack the tribe until the renounce him or they'll disqualify the tribe.

As much as they'll indicate public acceptance is a must, it's really only public acceptance by fellow Warren entities that will count. Even then, they reserve the right to expel you.

They way you avoid expulsion? By acting, talking, thinking, the way they think you should act, think, talk.

They have no problem giving "credibility" to frauds who mimic the stereotype(s).

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 09, 2015 9:17 AM  

Gamma rabbit is Jesus, who would have thunk it, hard to argue when he uses the god rhetoric of "love." That is all they have, plagiarism of Jesus.

Anonymous Viidad February 09, 2015 9:18 AM  

Jay: "God really f----- up in kicking us out of Eden

You're blaming it on Him? Seriously?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 09, 2015 9:22 AM  

To test Gamma Rabbit Jesus for fidelity to his creed then monitor him and his warren for anti-white bigotry. This will break his little cult since "anti-racism" is nothing but a codeword for anti-white. I know he allows that one black author to spew her anti-white venom crackpottery so at least one of his warren is a racist bigot.

Blogger Vox February 09, 2015 9:23 AM  

aside from looking forward to the day when they might pull their heads out and join the rest of the human race, lets them alone to do their own thing.

Except, of course, conspiring to get them kicked out of organizations.

You will never be an Indian - no matter how much DNA you have - until you receive tribal recognition, as public acceptance is standard of proof used by both the Indian Tribe and the Rabbit Warren.

Correction: tribal recognition is not synonymous with public acceptance. And I have no intention of allowing anyone to cause them any grief on my account.

Anonymous Stilicho February 09, 2015 9:24 AM  

Guessing it should be "what looks completely plain to the sane..."

What's plain to the sane, is lost in the rabbit refrain.

The K refrain falls mainly on the sane.

Anonymous Jay February 09, 2015 9:24 AM  

Absolutely Viidad. Answer me a question. We know now that leftists are brain damaged through childhood trauma, and have damaged amygdalas.

Did these brain damaged children have any choice in being born in a family that would violently rip their whole persons and souls to shreds?

No, of course not. Vox is right that leftists are dangerous. But they are that way because of trauma, which ultimately God is responsible for.

I believe in God, but I believe although he is beautiful in many ways, he is also a complete fucking idiot often.

Anonymous Jay February 09, 2015 9:27 AM  

Severe childhood trauma fucks you up for life (I can show you the science if you want).

God didn't inform us of the impact of abuse of childhood trauma on brain development in the bible.

Therefore God is an idiot who needs to apologize to the human race, and come down and fix our fucked up leftist brains.

Blogger Markku February 09, 2015 9:30 AM  

Jay, I think the solution will be more along the lines of you suffering the eternal torments of hell.

Anonymous Jay February 09, 2015 9:31 AM  

Thanks for your dogma Markku. Nice to seem intelligent engagement.

Anonymous Jay February 09, 2015 9:32 AM  

Nice to *see*

Blogger IM2L844 February 09, 2015 9:32 AM  

Stop trolling, frosh.

Blogger Markku February 09, 2015 9:32 AM  

Just wanted it out there for the record.

Anonymous Jay February 09, 2015 9:35 AM  

In sure you did. Fear can prevent further logical argumentation.

Anonymous kfg February 09, 2015 9:39 AM  

" . . . the rabbit meme Vox created . . ."

The first person I remember using it explicitly was Jeff Cooper.

Blogger Student in Blue February 09, 2015 9:40 AM  

Thank you, brave Atheist, for saving me from that dangerous fella known as God!

Now how about you get back to the topic instead of trying to make it about religion.

Blogger Vox February 09, 2015 9:41 AM  

Therefore God is an idiot who needs to apologize to the human race, and come down and fix our fucked up leftist brains.

This is not a theology post, Jay. Drop it.

Anonymous Native Baltimoron February 09, 2015 9:43 AM  

Jay wrote: We know now that leftists are brain damaged through childhood trauma, and have damaged amygdalas.

We know that they have smaller amygdalae, but have not at present shown this is caused by trauma rather than heritable. If it were heritable, the rapid change in political attitudes documented by Anonymous Conservative would suggest epigenetic and not genetic origin.

Also, Adam and Eve could easily have eschewed the knowledge of good and evil. Free will cuts both ways, and is quite possibly the only thing which really distinguishes man from the animals he was given dominion over. Other animals use tools, and communicate with each other. Raccoons even have opposable-ish thumbs. But people are the only ones with enough mental horsepower to overcome their baser instincts.

I would imagine that God anticipated the possibility of Adam and Eve ignoring him, but that does not shift the moral responsibility onto Him. It is not as if they were children; they knew the rules and broke them anyways, believing pridefully that they could skate out on the (inevitable) consequences.

Blogger Vox February 09, 2015 9:44 AM  

You're blaming it on Him? Seriously?

He's just trying to derail, Vidad. Don't take the bait. People must learn to recognize the pattern. Whenever an incongruous reference to religion is made, it is absolutely intended for you to lunge at it and go off the topic.

Blogger Vox February 09, 2015 9:46 AM  

He can't read posts that are deleted, Jay. I said drop it. Now, unless you wish me to start spamming your comments rather than deleting them, either return to the subject at hand or stop commenting.

Anonymous Viidad February 09, 2015 9:48 AM  

@Vox

Thanks.

Anonymous Jay February 09, 2015 9:49 AM  

You're right Vox, it is theology. Topic dropped.

Anonymous RedJack February 09, 2015 9:56 AM  

I run into this at work. I have been told that a barrier to me getting promoted is I live in the "wrong" town, drive the wrong vehicle, and support the wrong causes.

Nothing wrong with my work though. Or my results. Just that I make the rabbits uncomfortable.

Of course that in the end suits me fine. I would not fit in an organization where driving the wrong model of Mercedes gets you a bad review.

Blogger Nate February 09, 2015 9:58 AM  

"Therefore God is an idiot who needs to apologize to the human race, and come down and fix our fucked up leftist brains. "

To bring the matter back on topic... you dont' even understand the R/K theory. it has nothing to do with the nature of the created brain. It is about the rabbits never developing properly because they never were forced to overcome adversity.

Anonymous Ha February 09, 2015 9:59 AM  

He commissioned that ridiculous Gamma Rabbit thing and made it his personal heraldry. By embracing the suck, he was attempting to take the sting out of the stigma that Vox had created.

As recently noted on alphagame, trying to reframe an insult as a compliment never works.

Blogger Rabbi B February 09, 2015 10:03 AM  

" . . . they never were forced to overcome adversity."

Spot on. Adversity produces, among other things, character.

Anonymous Ha February 09, 2015 10:07 AM  

Vox can't be an authentic injun because badthink.

Blogger Nate February 09, 2015 10:07 AM  

"Spot on. Adversity produces, among other things, character."

What's the old saying? Hard work makes the man? Emphasis on "hard". As another point... note that kings used to send their sons off to live in the rural part of the kingdom... to be raised by others for a time to learn real work.

Anonymous Daniel February 09, 2015 10:22 AM  

kings used to send their sons off to live in the rural part of the kingdom... to be raised by others for a time to learn real work.

Yeah, but sometimes they ended up summoning demons and breeding werewolves, but I guess that's character building in and of itself.

Blogger Robert What? February 09, 2015 10:33 AM  

The object is not to make rabbits feel bad: the object is to make the rabbits leave us the hell alone. If making the rabbits feel inferior is the way to accomplish that, then that is the way to go. Since rabbits are inferior by every objective metric, that should make it easier.

Anonymous Crude February 09, 2015 10:33 AM  

For the SJW, "Seeming mean" == "Being mean" == "Being Wrong". They are all literally the same thing in their minds. Which is why you hardly ever see SJWs getting into arguments about facts and data, but they are involved in never-ending fights about appearances, implications, symbolism, oppression and more. That is all they know.

Anonymous Daniel February 09, 2015 10:34 AM  

The few Indians I know (aside from Vox, whose preferences I've got no clue about) only use "Native American" as public political code when necessary. All three of them preferred Indian or their specific tribe, because they saw the phrase "Native American" as another attempt to wipe them from memory.

The denial by some of Vox's own blood would seem to indicate that the SJW minders very much intend to finish the job on Indians:

Blot out "Redskin" (which is a type of Indian historically in the area of D.C. I think the original team had some self-identified Redskin Indians on it.) Blot out "Fightin' Sioux" (because good peaceful whites know that the Sioux never really fought for anything, right?) Blot out white symbols of Indians as patronizing. Blot out Indian symbols of Indians as appropriating.

The SJW has no brain to hack: only a heart that beats "Bury them. Bury them. Bury them."

Anonymous HongKongCharlie February 09, 2015 10:36 AM  

Exactly Rabbi B, I remember an article from Readers Digest of many years ago. It was titled, Stress your Kids and make them successful.

HKC

Anonymous Will Best February 09, 2015 10:44 AM  

It doesn't seem to be a particularly successful reproduction strategy as they generate children far below replacement levels. They depend far more on conversation/indoctrination.

If we dismantled public education the rabbits would all be dead within a century.

Blogger CarpeOro February 09, 2015 10:52 AM  

"David W. on February 6, 2015 at 7:16 am said:
Sorry, but a DNA test result doesn’t make one a “Native American”, but the writers of this horsecrap couldn’t care less about fact, obviously. "

Congratulations Vox. In our honor, the rabbits are trying to start a No True Indian meme. As someone who is part Scottish, I welcome you to the membership of No True People.

Blogger CarpeOro February 09, 2015 10:53 AM  

Make that "in your honor".

Blogger bob k. mando February 09, 2015 10:57 AM  

Robert What? February 09, 2015 10:33 AM
The object is not to make rabbits feel bad: the object is to make the rabbits leave us the hell alone.



no.

the object is to convert wascally wabbits into wolves.

IF you leave the rabbits alone
AND pay them to breed ( especially the left side of the bell curve )
THEN destruction of society is inevitable

simply because they're going to reframe society through genetic shift.

to the extent that Nurture can supersede Nature ( maximal development of the amygdala ), societal forms and tropes need to be adopted that can force that.

and one of the huge problems that we have today is the soft, plushie, minimal physical pain world that we're raising children in.

IF the only pain stimulus that you allow children to suffer is emotional / social in- and out-grouping
THEN why would you be surprised when they grow up completely unable to recognize physical threats?

they are optimized for the conditions ( public schooling ) in which you raised them, are they not?

once again, we come back to the old example of Promethean who used to post here. he started out as a trolling rabbit, posturing all of the Left positions.

then one day, he related a confrontation he had had on a public transport bus. a confrontation that arose with a man because he was being a douchebag.

he didn't even get hit. he merely experienced a situation in which it was clear that if he didn't shut-the-fuck-up-right-the-fuck-now and start behaving himself, he was buying an assbeating.

IF we can assume that the whole thing wasn't a troll
THEN he went from a hard left atheist to joining the RCC and reconsidering almost all of his worldview.

Anonymous Donn February 09, 2015 11:04 AM  

Depending on the tribe the people who handle membership might have no clue who 'Vox Day' is and never connect him with any controversy. Even if they do eventually accept his request for enrollment, many tribes take long years to determine membership even with birth certificates and family history lined up.

I've seen ten years go by when somebody didn't fit the categories precisely. For instance you can be 1/64 blood quantum (of a particular tribe) but if you are born in the right county you can be enrolled and I've seen 1/3 (I know not a real amount for mammals but hey, it's government work) be too low of a blood quantum no matter if you are born on top of the tribes most important sacred space.

It would be a brave tribe indeed that took on the baggage of VD. Most tribes skew far to the left and you can depend on liberal types coming out to the rez to make appearances especially if you have a scenic rez (they are not all created equal). Anything that threatened the grants, appearances, and good press that most tribes can count on would be difficult to accept just to have one more member.

Anonymous Indian Name DooFus Stand Corrected February 09, 2015 11:07 AM  

"...tribal recognition is not synonymous with public acceptance." Conceded.

Rabbits treat Elizabeth Warren as Native American without tribal recognition or DNA, but wouldn't treat you as Native American even with both.

Blogger Tommy Hass February 09, 2015 11:13 AM  

If DNA can't prove that Vox is an Indian, it cannot prove that blacks are humans either.

Anonymous Dr. J February 09, 2015 11:14 AM  

David W coming in and whitesplaining who can and can't be a red-man huh? Someone needs to check his privelege. Guess he wants to shuffle you off to the reservation.

Anonymous kfg February 09, 2015 11:15 AM  

" . . .the object is to convert wascally wabbits into wolves."

Wolves are reasonably good at that.

Anonymous Porky February 09, 2015 11:20 AM  

What's the old saying? Hard work makes the man? Emphasis on "hard".

And right on cue... Pop Warner getting sued.

Blogger Vox February 09, 2015 11:21 AM  

the object is to convert wascally wabbits into wolves.

Wolf shit, anyhow.

Anonymous Daniel February 09, 2015 11:23 AM  

Or maybe the Indian is correct to view the white American as something of an adopted son...

Blogger bob k. mando February 09, 2015 11:25 AM  

kfg February 09, 2015 11:15 AM
Wolves are reasonably good at that.



are we? how does 'Hypergamy Unbound' fit into your conceptualization of a K society?

remember, Game / Gameboys are not the triumph of the wolves.

Game / Gameboys are the triumph of males at the Feminine Primary game of Hypergamy. it is, at a fundamental level, r-selective. specifically, the selection by females of the aggressive, manipulative, sociopathic ( and often stupid ) for reproductive purposes.

it is the final destruction of the Family. and, with the destruction of the family, the destruction of society.

even Roissy is coming to this conclusion.

Anonymous Reality Raping February 09, 2015 11:26 AM  

Most tribes skew far to the left

Then they are willingly and Collectively kept on the Plantation, or Reservation, where the Government that most violated them in the first place would keep them. Sounds vaguely familiar.

You're right Vox, it is theology.

Authoritarian Utopia in the manner of inhuman rabbits is the theology of the "Left", and the murderous, lying, thieving State is its God.
Everyone desires to bow and worship. The question is to whom and what.

Anonymous RedJack February 09, 2015 11:28 AM  

Daniel,

I grew up with a lot of Sioux. They didn't call themselves "Sioux" but their separate tribe (Winnebago, Omaha, etc).

We had lots of fun playing cowboys and Indians. We all wanted to be the Indians.

I know a full blooded Omaha who is not recognized by the tribe because he got an education, and started a business. Acting to white. I also know a few Winnebago who have do so, and their pictures are on the wall at the local school for role models (they have a stronger tradition of success).

Anonymous Valiant February 09, 2015 11:29 AM  

What I find funny is how the rabbits completely overlooked the fact that Vox mentioned his son's interest in learning the language of the tribe.

Which is apparently close to disappearing? If I misread this , I apologize.

What could be more cultural for someone to do than to learn their people's disappearing languange?

I hope your family decided to learn the languange.

Anonymous Stilicho February 09, 2015 11:34 AM  

I also know a few Winnebago who have do so, and their pictures are on the wall at the local school for role models (they have a stronger tradition of success).

And a line of RV's.


I know a full blooded Omaha who is not recognized by the tribe because he got an education, and started a business. Acting to white.


Peyton Manning is changing that... one audible at a time.\

What could be more cultural for someone to do than to learn their people's disappearing languange?

Refusing to learn the language because that (learning) would be "too white."

Anonymous kfg February 09, 2015 11:39 AM  

@ Bob - "are we?"

My comment was a bit more abstract than Vox's, but carried the same meaning.

Blogger Markku February 09, 2015 11:42 AM  

Yeah, I'm of the opinion that it's essentially impossible to turn rabbits into wolves. Rather, the strategy is to just keep the canines sharpened for a time in the very near future, where natural selection starts to strongly favor the K.

Anonymous Ha February 09, 2015 11:53 AM  

What I find funny is how the rabbits completely overlooked the fact that Vox mentioned his son's interest in learning the language of the tribe.

I am sure he has been feeding the boy traditional native american cuisine -- e.g., baloney and mustard on wonder bread, pabst blue ribbon.

Blogger bob k. mando February 09, 2015 11:55 AM  

Markku February 09, 2015 11:42 AM
Rather, the strategy is to just keep the canines sharpened for a time in the very near future, where natural selection starts to strongly favor the K.


being a wolf in 1930s Russia would get you sent to Siberia. assuming you didn't make a one way trip to Lubyanka.

one thing that the massacres of the 20th century make clear ( even if the libs and rabbits don't want to teach it ), is that rabbits can be quite effective at mass genocide.

Anonymous Porky February 09, 2015 11:58 AM  

Yeah, I'm of the opinion that it's essentially impossible to turn rabbits into wolves.

It's impossible for you to do it.

Blogger Manveer Claire February 09, 2015 11:58 AM  

God needed to tell us not to severely abuse children, and traumatize them? That should be part of your moral conscience, meaning he tells you it every time, directly.

But you don't get to blame the restaurant manager if he kicks you out for not having a shirt. No shirt, no shoes, no service.

Anonymous kfg February 09, 2015 12:04 PM  

" . . . rabbits can be quite effective at mass genocide."

If they aren't eaten at a high enough rate, they eat everything and then everything dies, including the rabbits.

Rabbit health itself depends on the stress of being preyed upon.

Blogger bob k. mando February 09, 2015 12:20 PM  

Markku February 09, 2015 11:42 AM
Yeah, I'm of the opinion that it's essentially impossible to turn rabbits into wolves.



i'm not certain there's much of a difference between your "essentially impossible" and my "very difficult".

certainly, i would agree that without forcing them to face a serious physical threat at least once or twice ( that they can't get out of via rabbit posturing/supplication ) it's not going to happen.

as it happens though, i have personally affected a significant behavioral change in a high schooler ( middling poor wrestler ) via his realization that i had very nearly put him in the hospital.

the behavioral change was still holding the last time i saw him ~ a year ago.

Blogger Corvinus February 09, 2015 12:27 PM  

Fascinating. One wonders what would suffice to make one a "Native American" if not DNA, particularly when it says "Native American" on the DNA results and the Bureau of Indian Affairs issues Certificates of Indian Blood.

In their minds, being a rabbit is a requirement. Which is why they accept Elizabeth Warren (heh) as one, as pointed out above.

Blogger bob k. mando February 09, 2015 12:28 PM  

also note the criticality of adolescent African elephants having a mature bull to raise them:
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2775/are-elephants-in-the-wild-showing-newly-aggressive-behavior-including-rape

i'm not sure why we wouldn't expect similar developmental pattern in primates.

you notice that one of the primary goals of Feminism is to excise any significant influence that the Father might have over his children ...

Blogger ajw308 February 09, 2015 12:36 PM  

This ties into the current post at Alpha Game Plan. Scalzi wearing a rabbit shirt, saying "I'll take that as a compliment", is the posterchild of a SJW in full denial. Right now, they've got their fingers in their ears, are chanting "nah nah nah, I can't hear you", have comments turned off on their YouTube channels and blogs and have us blocked on Twitter. Anonymous Conservative is spot on and the heat needs to be turned up higher.

Anonymous Viidad February 09, 2015 12:40 PM  

It's become obvious that the answer to the rabbit question is to raise our children as the Spartans raised theirs

#WheelerWasRight

Anonymous NateM February 09, 2015 12:42 PM  

on the topic of Native American descent

http://www.npr.org/2012/11/01/164101913/who-is-native-american-and-who-decides-that

http://www.npr.org/2012/11/01/164101913/who-is-native-american-and-who-decides-that

"I'll give you the broad picture and then I'll share my own story with you. You know, broadly, tribes have reacted in different ways. So some like the Cherokee Nation in Oklahoma have realized that there were so many people who should legitimately be members of their native nation who are being excluded, that they actually changed the criteria from blood quantum to proven lineal descent. And as a result, they're actually one of the most numerous tribes in the United States."

So as much as they complain about Vox qualifying by blood quantum, it's among the more Restrictive ways to qualify for tribe membership in many cases. And it's from a native via NPR so they can't attack the source

Blogger Mekadave February 09, 2015 12:47 PM  

David W. on February 6, 2015 at 7:16 am said:

I'd just like to state for the record that while I use the Wordpress ID of Dave W. at other sites like Larry's, this rabbit douche above is NOT me.

Blogger Marissa February 09, 2015 1:06 PM  

It's interesting how reality-based people get when talking about who belongs to a certain nation, as long as it's American Indians they're talking about.

Blogger bob k. mando February 09, 2015 1:16 PM  

Viidad February 09, 2015 12:40 PM
#WheelerWasRight



you really know how to hurt a guy.

now i'm supposed to be on the same side as Princess Porkstar and Wheeler, simultaneously?

i don't know if i can live with myself.

Anonymous Anonymous February 09, 2015 1:17 PM  

So Mekadave, we can keep buying your flavor of douche?

Blogger Joshua Dyal February 09, 2015 1:25 PM  

i'm not certain there's much of a difference between your "essentially impossible" and my "very difficult".

I believe that there's a big difference between truly hard-wired "hard rabbits" and the more laissez-faire "soft rabbits" who mostly behave rabbit-like due to conditioning, not psychological imperative. The latter can be taught not to be rabbits. The former cannot, but are probably much less numerous.

As AC would probably say, the fact that we live in a r-dominant environment encourages rabbity behavior even among those who have the potential not to be rabbits.

Blogger bob k. mando February 09, 2015 1:31 PM  

Joshua Dyal February 09, 2015 1:25 PM
I believe that there's a big difference between truly hard-wired "hard rabbits" and the more laissez-faire "soft rabbits"



i wouldn't disagree with that. certainly i never meant to imply that there was a single magic bullet that would convert ANY rabbit.

but i was considering this from a societal level. where Very Large Numbers have a swamping effect.

and if we could only induce a ~10% conversion rate, that would still be very significant.

Blogger Mekadave February 09, 2015 2:43 PM  

So Mekadave, we can keep buying your flavor of douche?

Why sure, I love being spring-fresh! :-p

Though you can give it to the whiny SJW trolls when they show up here. I think they need it a lot more than me.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper February 09, 2015 2:54 PM  

I've referred to this as "changing warren law" in conversations before. The idea here is to 1st hack the rabbits into agreeing with you and than creating after a spectrum of political ideas that allow them the constant shifting of boundaries their brains require and allows them the ability to disqualify as well.

The real trick will be creating a broad enough structure to allow our natural idea competition as well.

If we do this, our law becomes theirs and we win since they aren't us but we support the same ideas and importantly, that consensus feeds the rabbit mind.

Getting a structure so that the consensus is shared between R and K is difficult but if we can , we win till we slack and they natural chaos takes over again.

Blogger Markku February 09, 2015 2:54 PM  

Yeah, I guess it kind of depends on whether you view wolves and rabbits as the two opposite ENDS of the spectrum, or if you view everybody as either being a wolf or a rabbit.

Anonymous Corvinus February 09, 2015 2:58 PM  

Yeah, I guess it kind of depends on whether you view wolves and rabbits as the two opposite ENDS of the spectrum, or if you view everybody as either being a wolf or a rabbit.

The former would make more sense, as with the sociosexual hierarchy where you have Deltas in the middle.

Anonymous Daniel February 09, 2015 3:05 PM  

That would make them "wabbits" on the left of center and "rolfs" on the right.

Ahem.

Rolf? Anything to confess? I notice you are up for an award...Scalzi didn't nominate you did he?

Blogger Joshua Dyal February 09, 2015 3:07 PM  

Yeah, I guess it kind of depends on whether you view wolves and rabbits as the two opposite ENDS of the spectrum, or if you view everybody as either being a wolf or a rabbit.

In which case, realistic humility would compel me to admit that I'm probably at best a coyote or a fox, not really a wolf. Heh.

Anonymous Daniel February 09, 2015 3:11 PM  

The funny thing about McRapey is that he would probably constitute a wabbit, despite his adoption of his role as the Gamma Rabbit. He had the sense to align with Heinlein and Piper and PKD rather than the current Nebula nominees, for example. He moves toward the money and the customer when he can get away with it, and tends to go pre-emptively ideological on grounds that he is willing to concede.

In other words, he's no ideologue like Sparklepunter. He likes living among Republican strongholds and occasionally playing the village idiot, but when push comes to shove, he pushes right instead of left. Only as far as he needs to for the moment, but that's why he's a wabbit and not a rabbit or a rolf.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 09, 2015 3:20 PM  

He abides by the taboos set by the SJW and probably has the sense to jump when he sees that the taboo is slipping on holding back the population. As for blabbing about his supposed moral superiority on homophobia or what not, from what I gather his kid has a bright future as a clam eater, so that makes it personal.

Political Correctness is not like a religion it is a religion, no matter how silly it all sounds.

Blogger bob k. mando February 09, 2015 3:33 PM  

Daniel February 09, 2015 3:11 PM
Only as far as he needs to for the moment, but that's why he's a wabbit and not a rabbit or a rolf.



which is why i view Proper's "changing warren law" as being a short term solution, at best.

the problem isn't 'warren law'. warren law changes constantly.

OSC thought he was a liberal in the 70s and 80s. he even still considers himself 'liberal' today.

but the warren has moved on and cast him out.

the problem is NOT the specific warren law of the moment. that will change tomorrow.

it's all the rabbits running around eating each other's caecotrophes.

what you WANT is a society in which the vast majority of the members consider the mere production of caecotrophes to be vile, much less the consuming of them.

Blogger bob k. mando February 09, 2015 3:36 PM  

okay, what *i* want.

you all can speak for yourselves.

Anonymous Holmwood February 09, 2015 4:04 PM  

Vox Day has a real-life resume which reads as if it was made up by a mental patient with delusions of grandeur. From his days as a Billboard Top 40 recording artist, to a computer game designer, to a syndicated columnist, to a Hugo-nominated author, to offering anti-liberal social commentary at his 1.5-million-monthly-pageview blog, he is the only author ever to have been purged from the Science Fiction Writer's Association, for his conservative ideas.

First, that's a glorious description of Vox. Second, roughly a quarter of that great bio consists of his defenestration from SFWA.

Interesting how that worked out. It's not like booting a lifetime member from SFWA gave any impetus to Sad Puppies, or any publicity to Vox, or his blog, etc, or caused any long term fans of SF to realize how deeply the rot had gotten.

And Vox's career in SF, post SFWA membership has been objectively a disaster. Castalia House? Publishing little known lights like John C Wright and Tom Kratman? Exploding into many languages? OK, well, that's a bad example. But I'm sure it's terrible for Vox. Having Dr. Jerry Freaking Pournelle sign on to revive There Will be War? Oh yeah, another really bad example.

At this point, I'm half-seriously wondering... how much did Vox pay John Scalzi to insist on his removal via mechanisms that were ludicrous?

-Holmwood

Blogger bob k. mando February 09, 2015 4:07 PM  

Markku February 09, 2015 2:54 PM
or if you view everybody as either being a wolf or a rabbit.



heathen! blasphemer! binary thinker of black and white!

http://www.bloodygoodhorror.com/bgh/files/1bodysnatchers.jpg

do you accede to the Game concept that lower Beta / Delta / Gamma can improve along the Hypergamy Axis to being pseudo-Alpha?

is this not a large behavioral change coupled with a significant shift in world view?

why, then, would you assume that the a similar transform could NOT be performed along the r/K axis?

Blogger Markku February 09, 2015 4:27 PM  

First, I take the view of rabbits and wolves representing opposite ends. Second, no. I don't think there is realistic chance of delta or gamma becoming alpha. Beta perhaps, if stars are correctly aligned, or more likely high delta. Alpha is unrealistic.

Similarly, I would say that a rabbit transition to middle, or middle transition to wolf would be realistic. But a complete transformation to the opposite end is exceedingly rare.

Blogger JDC February 09, 2015 4:34 PM  

Vox is not Native American for the same reason RGIII isn't African-American. Neither of these gentleman are "down with the cause," so therefore, "he's not one of us."

Blogger Markku February 09, 2015 4:38 PM  

"he's not one of us."

Except, the "us" here, who are denying Vox his ancestry and heritage, are mostly privileged white liberals. It is very patronizing. If the "injun" doesn't think the thoughts they want him to think, then they will not settle on merely having taken his land, they will take his identity too.

Anonymous tiredofitall February 09, 2015 4:52 PM  

"At this point, I'm half-seriously wondering... how much did Vox pay John Scalzi to insist on his removal via mechanisms that were ludicrous?" -Holmwood

The really funny thing about this is that McRapey did it gratis, thinking he was hurting Vox.

Blogger John Wright February 09, 2015 5:18 PM  

"As Blue Sci/Fi gains popularity, coming up with your own awards and completely forgoing the Hugos or Nebulas or what-have-you might be another option. Taking over the Hugos would blow their minds, but making it utterly irrelevant? I think it would go even further. "

I suggest that the popular award be called 'The Verne' and the editorial award be called 'The Wells'

Anonymous Donn February 09, 2015 6:05 PM  

I'm still wonder can a leopard change his spots? Can rabbits become wolves or vice versa?

Blogger Vox February 09, 2015 7:08 PM  

At this point, I'm half-seriously wondering... how much did Vox pay John Scalzi to insist on his removal via mechanisms that were ludicrous?

The thing about gamers is that they tend to be skilled at turning initial disadvantages into opportunities. And game developers, as a general rule, are very, very good gamers.

The important thing about action is that it provides a fixed point. The actor is committed to it. And every strike provides an outstretched arm that is, itself, a target.

Blogger Vox February 09, 2015 7:11 PM  

I'm still wonder can a leopard change his spots? Can rabbits become wolves or vice versa?

If they are young enough. To a certain extent, they are made rather than born. And what is made can be unmade. That's what Boot Camp is all about. But not everyone can be broken or fixed by Boot Camp.

Anonymous Jack Amok February 09, 2015 10:05 PM  

First, I take the view of rabbits and wolves representing opposite ends. Second, no. I don't think there is realistic chance of delta or gamma becoming alpha. Beta perhaps, if stars are correctly aligned, or more likely high delta. Alpha is unrealistic.

The way I think of the socio-sexual heirarchy, Delta and Omega are just types of Beta (and Sigma's are just types of Alpha). The difference beween Alpha and Beta is seeing yourself as having control over your life. Alphas (and wolves) go out and try to make the world into what they want it. Betas try to fit in as best they can. I don't think it's a complete binary break, I think there is a slope between Alpha/Beta and Wolf/Rabbit, but I think it's steep.

And I agree there's an aspect of "made not born" though I do think there's a strong genetic component. But as with AC's amygdala theory, lack of success at a crital age of brain development is probably a huge cause of rabbitery. Note that I said "lack of success" and not "failure" because I think failure is no where near as debilitating as never knowing success.

Anonymous kawaika February 09, 2015 11:53 PM  

"One wonders what would suffice to make one a "Native American" if not DNA"

Geography, of course.

Anonymous Stilicho February 10, 2015 9:51 AM  

The really funny thing about this is that McRapey did it gratis, thinking he was hurting Vox.

The funnier thing is that he attacked himself with his white-male-is-the-easiest-setting assertion, but is still awaiting success from it. It's cargo-cult thinking at its finest.

Blogger Joshua Dyal February 10, 2015 3:53 PM  

The really funny thing about this is that McRapey did it gratis, thinking he was hurting Vox.

Maybe he's actually a deep cover double agent?

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