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Sunday, February 08, 2015

In support of Puppies

Amal El-Mohtar bravely supports Rabid Puppies and Sad Puppies 3:
We need to have a serious talk about awards and eligibility and the awkward eggshell-dance people feel obligated to do every time this year.

Recently I went on a tear on Twitter because I saw women for whom I have tremendous admiration and respect speak up about how difficult they find it to overcome shyness and low self-esteem enough to talk about their work, and what an ongoing struggle it is for them to find value in their art, to think of it as in any way contributing anything to the world.
There’s a peculiar, unbearable, vicious smugness in sitting back and talking about how tacky it is of people to list their publications and that of course YOU won’t do so because while winning awards is nice naturally YOU don’t really care about them. I find that behaviour several orders of magnitude more repellent than asking for votes. Requests for votes I can ignore; what I can’t ignore is the real toll taken on brilliantly talented people by this kind of rhetoric — brilliantly talented people who already think themselves unworthy of any kind of positive attention.

Can we please just accept — and make widespread the acceptance! — that making lists during Awards season is fine? That it’s standard?
There you have it. Making lists is fine. It is standard. People like Amal expressly want our lists. So what on Earth can the pinkshirts possibly be complaining about? Is it, perhaps, the fact that our lists are not the same as their lists?

I have tremendous admiration and respect for Larry Correia and Brad Torgersen, especially in light of how they have courageously overcome shyness and low self-esteem enough to talk about their work.

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27 Comments:

Anonymous Ain February 08, 2015 6:28 AM  

Such a brave soul.

Anonymous Salt February 08, 2015 8:11 AM  

It's always them versus us, which is why one never gives them an inch.

Anonymous VK February 08, 2015 8:24 AM  

A serious talk. So she went on a tear. Because self esteem. And community. Very important stuff.

I didn't roll my eyes at all. I sat up and took notes. A tough woman being tough. No bluster, no posturing, just hard words from a strong woman.

Anonymous p-dawg February 08, 2015 8:45 AM  

I'm surprised that acquaintances of Amal El-Mohtar are so self-aware as to realize that they are contributing nothing to the world. Kudos to them for seeing reality.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza February 08, 2015 9:10 AM  

Of course there are book lists in 2015. What is with some pple?

Anonymous rienzi February 08, 2015 10:14 AM  

If you truly are "brilliantly talented" you know it.

The Mozarts, Michelangelos, Teslas of the world have no problems with self-esteem because what they create is great, and they know it is great.

If you, as the creator, cannot push your own work because of a fear that it is not good enough, it is because it IS not good enough, and you are not "brilliantly talented".

That's not to say that the mundane can't be enjoyable. Museums, concert halls and libraries are filled with ok, but nothing special, works. Just don't call the ordinary, or worse, mediocre creator "brilliantly talented".

Blogger IM2L844 February 08, 2015 10:27 AM  

I saw women for whom I have tremendous admiration and respect speak up about how difficult they find it to overcome shyness and low self-esteem enough to talk about their work, and what an ongoing struggle it is for them to find value in their art, to think of it as in any way contributing anything to the world.

I call bullshit on the whole eyelash batting ploy. Gulping it down, hook, line and sinker, doesn't make it any less bullshit. Kinda cute sometimes, but bullshit nevertheless.

Anonymous The other skeptic February 08, 2015 10:38 AM  

No bluster, no posturing, just hard words from a strong woman.

You forgot "independent."

Anonymous Daniel February 08, 2015 10:43 AM  

He supports Sad Puppies in that post...but won't approve the pingback to it. I'm sure it is simply a superbrave oversight.

Anonymous Jill February 08, 2015 10:56 AM  

Women have much lower testosterone than men have (obviously), which naturally makes them less confident. However, most people have a deep understanding about whether their work is award-worthy or not. That's not low self-esteem; that's artistic integrity. So what are we asking women to do, here: be dishonest, or combat their naturally lower confidence? Amar should just save his obnoxious pity and allow women to be honest. He's being retarded.

Anonymous Gx1080 February 08, 2015 11:06 AM  

Hipsters fear being fully commited to an idea since that exposes them to ridicule, even when their "ironic" tastes and snark are self-made parodies.

There's few things as pathetic than watch a bunch of adults act like teenagers afraid to not be with the "in" crowd.

Anonymous Sensei February 08, 2015 11:19 AM  

The Mozarts, Michelangelos, Teslas of the world have no problems with self-esteem because what they create is great, and they know it is great.

That's not really true across the board though. The gift of artistic genius seems to often accompany self-destructive personality traits, including depression and self-hatred and the rest.

Blogger automatthew February 08, 2015 11:25 AM  

Amal appears to be a female, from her avatar.

Anonymous Jill February 08, 2015 11:29 AM  

I stand corrected. Amal is a female. The name sounded male to me--what do I know?

Anonymous Daniel February 08, 2015 11:30 AM  

That's sexist, automatthew. I was using an alternative-gender pronoun, where, in the case of unknown and unpresumed cis-ness, the "S" is both silent AND invisible.

Do keep up.

Anonymous daddynichol February 08, 2015 11:33 AM  

As the culture continues to lower standards to identify quality art, then any half assed talent could be considered brilliant.

OpenID malcolmthecynic February 08, 2015 11:42 AM  

Sensei is right. Van Gogh considered himself an abject failure, and Emily Dickinson wanted all of her work burned.

Anonymous Daniel February 08, 2015 11:44 AM  

He (or in the sexist vernacular for those yet unevolved, "She") also - according to her About - keeps a resident of Glasgow as a pet.

That is pretty brave on its own. One has to be extremely far ahead of current standards to not only endorse white slavery, but practice it. I wonder if it is a preventative measure, or simply a punative one. Either way, the concept is braver than brave. It is independently strong brave - bravish, if you will - bravish to a degree of brilliance beyond cishuman comprehension. If there were such thing as a god, such bravery would prove Her existence.

His/Her treatise should be named Summa Infelix Canis...

Blogger grendel February 08, 2015 12:10 PM  

"incandescent women"

Are we talking about roman candles or flaming sodomites or what? Oh, maybe it's just typical rabbitoid hyperbole because they've worn out all the other superlatives. Carry on.

Anonymous Daniel February 08, 2015 12:11 PM  

All my petty snark aside, I am actually encouraged by folks like Scalzi and El-Mohtar rushing to defend Sad Puppies and other author campaigns for awards, for any reason.

1) The campaigned-for awards are popularity races of some sort, and admitting as much is a good way to keep at bay the myth of "magical, self-evident" quality being a symptom of awards.

2) Whether or not the reasoning is honest, the effect is.

3) It serves to clear out any notion that the best consistently rises to the top in an award mechanism.

Anonymous daniel February 08, 2015 12:26 PM  

Their list is full of people I have never heard of, and since I don't read pretentious sjw message fic my gut tells me that I should keep far away from the stuff on that list. I'll stick with fun instead, thanks.

Blogger IM2L844 February 08, 2015 12:33 PM  

"You don’t need this but: I give you permission. I want your lists."

Amal, clearly watches too much OWN and BRAVO.

Look, Amal, women are not as fragile as they sometimes pretend to be. They just aren't. Depending on the circumstances, sometimes it behooves men as well as other women to show them the empathy they seek. Sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes they just want to satisfy a desire for drama. Parse. In this instance, I don't think empathy is warranted. Suck it up ladies.

The Supreme Dark Lord of the Evil Legion of Evil and the Dread Ilk are consistently dismissed on many levels by mean spirits, yet nobody has any empathy for them.

*A single tear rolls down my noble cheek as I gaze knowingly into the distance*

Anonymous Donn February 08, 2015 2:51 PM  

The girls are all so brave. Just like 'lil brudder' the puppy. He can do it on his own. *one manly tear rolls down my cheek*

Anonymous Giuseppe February 08, 2015 6:34 PM  

Vox,
I do have a novella that would probably get me a fatwah and a crucifixtion at the same time, I published it under an assumed name, because shyness. Maybe you can help me become a brave voice in this harsh world by you know, telling me it's ok to have a slutty Islamic female protagonist that is most blasphemous, and a heretic multiple murderer as the male lead.

Anonymous p-dawg February 08, 2015 7:35 PM  

@ malcolmthecynic: Well, Emily Dickinson *was* obsessed with "The Yellow Rose of Texas". So much so that all of her work can be sung to its tune.

Blogger grendel February 08, 2015 11:15 PM  

What a hack. I only read poems that can be sung to "Rose of Alabama."

Blogger James Dixon February 10, 2015 4:08 PM  

> I only read poems that can be sung to "Rose of Alabama."

You sure that's not "Moon of Alabama"?

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