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Friday, February 06, 2015

The invisible Voxemort

McCreepy repeats his Very Important call for guest blogs about representation in science fiction and fantasy:
Last year, I posted an open call for guest blogs about representation in science fiction and fantasy. The resulting essays were, in my opinion, both important and powerful. I was hopeful when I first put out that call, but the stories people chose to share exceeded my expectations in so many ways.

So I’m doing it again. Because, to quote from last year’s call, “it’s one thing for me to talk about this stuff. But let’s face it, it’s not exactly difficult for me to find characters like me in books, TV, movies, advertising, video games, etc. And there’s a painful irony when conversations about representation end up spotlighting some guy who’s part of the most overrepresented group in the country.”

Once again, I’ll be looking for personal, first-hand stories between 400 and 1000 words, talking about what it’s like to not see yourself in stories, or to see yourself misrepresented, or the first time you found a character you could really relate to and what that meant, and so on.
I have to admit, reading those personal first-hand stories did make a real difference to me. I had previously had some respect for Katherine Kerr. But after reading her stupid self-pity party, I have lost all interest in ever reading any more of her books.

"At 16, confused and vulnerable, I gave it all up. I took no more “hard” science courses. I left the math classes to the boys, just like the boys wanted."

Yes, because as we've all learned, the ideal way to make sure people are able to accomplish difficult things is by making it easier for them. That's why the Navy SEAL program is going to replace 24-weeks of Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S) school, a parachute course and the 26-week SEAL Qualification Training program.with handing out ice cream cones and lollipops.

What I found very hurtful as a Native American was that Jim Hines didn't feature any stories about my people. I will pen a personal and first-hand story about how terribly hard it was for me growing up Indian (feather, not dot) in a land full of pretty, blonde Scandinavian girls who had settled upon the ancestral lands of my tribal cousins, and I trust Mr. Hines will help the healing begin by including it in Invisible 2.

Meanwhile, speaking of McCreepy, this was amusing.
P.T. Barnumium #1041 ‏@PTBarnumium
@voxday are you Voldemort or something? Entire McCreepy thread where they're contorting like maniacs to not mention you by name

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187 Comments:

Blogger LP 999/Eliza February 06, 2015 12:01 PM  

Running, winning while writes!

Blogger Josh February 06, 2015 12:07 PM  

(feather, not dot)

Perhaps casino, not subway (or motel or gas station) is more accurate for our society today...

Anonymous Daniel February 06, 2015 12:10 PM  

That's why the all-women A-Force will take the place of the Avengers. Because boys hate girls.

Anonymous dh February 06, 2015 12:10 PM  

With regards to Kerr, it's also obvious that she's lying. She gave it up at 16 not because "the boys wanted it that way", but because that's when it gets hard. Most people with an average IQ can master geometry, trig, and algebra fairly easily.

But 16 is when many high schools (especially in the 1960's) started with calculus. Having A's in and Math and Science up till age 16 means that you can handle arithmetic through algebra.

I think these people have a fundamental problem with what "dreams" are. It is my dream to wake up and found out I have won the lottery. It is a dream. It is an aspiration to achieve wealth and security. Dreams are things that happen to you. Aspirations are things that you work towards.

Blogger Josh February 06, 2015 12:12 PM  

@voxday are you Voldemort or something? Entire McCreepy thread where they're contorting like maniacs to not mention you by name

Anyone have any idea which thread this is?

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents February 06, 2015 12:13 PM  

Never have understood the whole "people who look like me" business. What difference does that really make? I've been to short term and longer term training where essentially no one "looked like me" one wa or another. So what? I had milestones to meet, a goal to achieve, stuff to do, and none of it depened on who wore what or was this age or that age or was that color or this other religion.

It must be rabbitological in origin, "Oh, noes, the rest of the warren doesn't look like me! I'm different! Will I be cast out?" and thus the amygdala is stoked up.



Anonymous Porky February 06, 2015 12:15 PM  

"The resulting essays were, in my opinion, both important and powerful."

Ahh, the universal metric of progressive "art"....

Not excellence, nor craftsmanship...but simply how "important" and "powerful".

This is where atonal music, dadaism, and "Piss Christ" come from.

Anonymous fish February 06, 2015 12:15 PM  

The invisible Voxemort

Congrats....another first rate nickname!

Anonymous Nathanael February 06, 2015 12:17 PM  

For people who so loudly proclaim that race is a social construct and that your kids looking like you isn't important (or even is evil), they sure get bent out of shape over being represented in Disney characters.

Anonymous Daniel February 06, 2015 12:19 PM  

No, Hines is absolutely correct when he writes that it is not "difficult for me to find characters like me in books, TV, movies, advertising, video games, etc."

After all, who among us has not noticed the obvious explosion in the appearances - across all media - of guys who look like pedophiles?

Anonymous Stingray February 06, 2015 12:20 PM  

All I Wanted to be was a Housewife

And I was told that I would be less, unseen, subverted and a doormat. How could I possibly be loved by a man when my goals were considered to be somehow . . . vastly unimportant?

Blogger Krul February 06, 2015 12:22 PM  

Porky - Ahh, the universal metric of progressive "art"....

Not excellence, nor craftsmanship...but simply how "important" and "powerful".


Important and powerful.

Personally, I say that if a work's purpose is something other than aesthetics, then it is not art. If its purpose is some social or political "message", then it is propaganda.

Blogger dw February 06, 2015 12:23 PM  

@Josh

Firewater, not slurpee

Anonymous Daniel February 06, 2015 12:23 PM  

They are only going half-way with this effort. Hines should head up an advocacy program featuring him wearing a dress.

If any reader comes across a book where the hero reminds them of Jim C. Hines, they should immediately put the book down. That's the only way to change the minds of the good old boys at Tor, reminding them that there is NO PLACE in society for the abundance of characters who are like Jim C. Hines.

The "White Like Hines" campaign could probably get some PSA money, too.

Anonymous Jack Amok February 06, 2015 12:27 PM  

But let’s face it, it’s not exactly difficult for me to find characters like me in books, TV, movies, advertising, video games, etc.

Scalzi is confused about this. There are very few chinless simpering doughboys in TV, movies, etc. Of course, there aren't many waddling land manatees either...

Anonymous Jon Bromfield February 06, 2015 12:28 PM  

"...Just like the boys wanted."

Bullshit! We STEM track boys dreamed of girls we could talk science and math with. Didn't have to been all that attractive, either, just look and smell something like a girl. Sounds like Ms. Kerr failed on those counts, too.

Anonymous Jack Amok February 06, 2015 12:31 PM  

Doh, I got Scalzi and Hines mixed up again. Daniel's right, there has been an explosion in creepy looking guys.

Anonymous Trimegistus February 06, 2015 12:32 PM  

I'm a white guy, and it makes me feel so empowered when all the villains on TV and in movies look just like me!

Anonymous Porky February 06, 2015 12:33 PM  

Krul, you made my day, brother. Thanks!

Blogger Salt February 06, 2015 12:37 PM  

Speaking of Navy Seals -

Army Ranger prep course passed by 5 out of 26 women

Blogger SQT February 06, 2015 12:39 PM  

I grew up watching The Bionic Woman, Wonder Woman, Buck Rodgers (Wilma Deering anyone?), and later Xena and Buffy. I read books by Anne McCaffrey, Mercedes Lackey (do they not qualify as strong women?) and read books that featured strong women written by the likes of Robert Jordan and Terry Brooks. I never had a moment where I felt like I didn't have characters to relate to.

I honestly don't know what these people are going on about. Now, granted I'm not a minority so I wasn't looking for minority characters. But I suspect they wouldn't be as hard to find as the SJW would make it out to be.

Anonymous Porky February 06, 2015 12:39 PM  

The funniest part is the sheet music. Your average 13 year old will play a Beethoven sonata from memory....but these dumb harpies need sheet music to know when to scream and when to bark like a hyena.

Oh God I'm gonna have to wear 'Depends' if I watch that again.

Anonymous Stg58 / Animal Mother February 06, 2015 12:40 PM  

The Onion once reported that "Indian Casinos Use Every Part of the Dollar".

Vox, could you comment on that?

Blogger Student in Blue February 06, 2015 12:40 PM  

@Josh
Teepee, not IT

Anonymous TimBob February 06, 2015 12:46 PM  

Wow... No shortage of liberal women who will blame everything and everyone for the pity parties they throw for their shortcomings.

How embarrassing for this Kerr to admit this.
There can almost never be any personal growth for these people because all they can do is complain about how they suffered... And act as if that is solely an experience they faced.

Like now else has ever suffered before.
Here's why Kerr failed at those endeavors, she couldn't move beyond the suffering.... All she could do is scream in shock that she even had to struggle a bit. I wouldn't doubt this is a narrative she's brought up many times, vocally, to other people in her life "ohhhh the pains I've had to endure."


I've noticed this with a certain type of woman: all they can do is complain about their hardships. While seeming complelety oblivious to the fact that other people have it rough too... They just don't complain as much.

Blogger CM February 06, 2015 12:46 PM  

I read a book that had a character that I identified with 100% for the first time ever.

It was a man. And I am not. How shocking.

Blogger Krul February 06, 2015 12:47 PM  

Porky - The funniest part is the sheet music.

Ain't it, tho?

One of the commenters over there was actually defending it, claiming that it takes a lot of "skill" to "perform".

Blogger CM February 06, 2015 12:49 PM  

SQT - it's because none of those women were fat.

Anonymous Viidad February 06, 2015 12:51 PM  

Daniel: "The "White Like Hines" campaign could probably get some PSA money, too."

"Can't wait to get our Hines on you" would also work nicely.

Blogger Feather Blade February 06, 2015 12:53 PM  

@voxday are you Voldemort or something? Entire McCreepy thread where they're contorting like maniacs to not mention you by name

If they very carefully not-mention him for long enough, he'll probably disappear entirely.

OpenID genericviews February 06, 2015 12:53 PM  

As a middle aged white guy who can't turn into a were-creature, isn't wealthy, isn't a supergenious, isn't decended from the royal family of an ancient alien empire, can't perform magic, isn't in command of hundreds of people, pays my bills on time, and never gets attacked by terrorists so I can shoot back.... I feel grossly under-represented by characters fiction. THAT'S WHY I READ IT. Real life is boring.

Anonymous Giuseppe February 06, 2015 12:54 PM  

"Vox, could you comment on that?"
Is it something about not being taxed? Or maybe it relates to the savages just using the paper for other things, like lining mocassins or something, a cultural thing that is a throwback to using every part of the buffalo?

Anonymous Steve February 06, 2015 12:55 PM  

But let’s face it, it’s not exactly difficult for me to find characters like me in books, TV, movies, advertising, video games, etc.

Yes, there's Uriah Heep, "The Gimp" from Pulp Fiction, many of the twitchy little men the great Peter Lorre used to play...

Anonymous Viidad February 06, 2015 12:56 PM  

@Josh

Tomahawks and peace pipes, not curry and burned wifes

Blogger JCclimber February 06, 2015 12:57 PM  

I look forward to using these:
Feather, not dot.
Firewater, not slurpee.
Teepee, not IT.

all good for proper black knighting armor......

Blogger ajw308 February 06, 2015 12:57 PM  

it’s not exactly difficult for me to find characters like me in books
Is he talking about 6' tall badass Marines or characters really like himself?

Blogger Student in Blue February 06, 2015 12:58 PM  

@Giuseppe
The Onion is a well-known satirical online and printed newspaper. It's a joke on Indians using every part of the buffalo, yes.

Blogger SQT February 06, 2015 1:01 PM  

SQT - it's because none of those women were fat.

Ah, you may have a point.

Anonymous Stingray February 06, 2015 1:02 PM  

Krul,

I honest to goodness thought that video was a joke, that it was taken from the Onion or something. It's so ridiculous I can't help but wonder if it's black knighting at it's finest.

Anonymous Stilicho February 06, 2015 1:07 PM  

Firewater, not slurpee

Rez not Raj

Blogger Cataline Sergius February 06, 2015 1:07 PM  

But let’s face it, it’s not exactly difficult for me to find characters like me in books, TV, movies, advertising, video games, etc.

What the hell does he watch?

The Emasculation Channel

Don't you dare watch anything else!

Anonymous Stilicho February 06, 2015 1:09 PM  

Teepee, not IT

Awesome

Anonymous Porky February 06, 2015 1:10 PM  

Inbred, not Outsourced.

Anonymous Stingray February 06, 2015 1:16 PM  

Not in the same category, but my husband likes to say push start, not pull start.

Anonymous DrTorch February 06, 2015 1:22 PM  

Not a lot of Christians in science fiction, as best as I can recall anyway. How an essay decrying the absence of Christian men who do science, and who have ethics, because of a desire to serve Yaweh and follow His Son?

Blogger Darth Toolpodicus February 06, 2015 1:25 PM  

"But let’s face it, it’s not exactly difficult for me to find characters like me in books, TV, movies, advertising, video games, etc. "

Really?!? Unless I am missing a pedophile-cast version of "Big Bang Theory" somewhere on TV I don't see anybody like Jim Hines represented anywhere.

Anonymous physphilmusic February 06, 2015 1:25 PM  

Important and powerful.

Personally, I say that if a work's purpose is something other than aesthetics, then it is not art. If its purpose is some social or political "message", then it is propaganda.


I'm a composer who writes a lot of music that can be considered atonal, and also like to use weird sound effects and techniques - and I still couldn't stop falling off my chair seeing this. Somebody I'm going to write a symphony about SJWs...and something like this will be part of it!

Blogger CM February 06, 2015 1:31 PM  

Really?!? Unless I am missing a pedophile-cast version of "Big Bang Theory" somewhere on TV I don't see anybody like Jim Hines represented anywhere.

They have such a superficial and shallow way of identifying themselves.

It is truly pathetic.

Anonymous WinstonWebb February 06, 2015 1:32 PM  

Bourbon, not turban.

Blogger P.T. Barnumium February 06, 2015 1:33 PM  

@josh

The farce of a chain starts with this one https://twitter.com/jimchines/status/562624097637896193 (I'd include the whole lot in the message but I'm not that technical. Apologies if links are against the rules)

There's a whole load of the dreaded 'he' before one of the mouthbreathers channels his inner rapist and tries RHSD and then (hilariously) has to explain the meaning to the other sad sacks. Honestly, if they're desperate for an acronym to describe Vox i'd say PTSD is more accurate considering their reaction to him.

The best part is that Wendell completely kills the chain

Blogger Guitar Man February 06, 2015 1:34 PM  

So the main leader of modern American science fiction (or so he fancies himself), is deigning to give representation to the underrepresented of science fiction. And then Vox points out that the genre is dying. And they either deny it or wonder in horror why scifi is on the decline. I don't know, I think it goes without saying now that the pink SFers enjoy playing the victim more than they do writing science fiction stories. They are so weak. So pathetic.

Blogger rycamor February 06, 2015 1:34 PM  

Alcoholic, not workaholic

Anonymous Giuseppe February 06, 2015 1:36 PM  

That link leads to something that should be invisible. Namely the blog of Jim c. Hines. Who, if you look at his previous post, admits (in relation to a cover showing a demon-woman hilding a baby) that he likes it because he is "a sucker for babies".
Is the SFWA truly just an offshoot of NAMBLA now?

Anonymous Steve February 06, 2015 1:38 PM  

Most of the books I read contain tough-as-nails protagonists who don't flinch from unleashing hell on their enemies.

Characters like Pat Carrera, Earl Harbinger, Admiral Smith, Kenneth Chinran, Harry Dresden, Mike O'Neal...

Where are all the books about weedy little bald guys who look like they came from central casting for a "stranger danger" PSA?

Blogger rycamor February 06, 2015 1:39 PM  

Oh Giuseppe, you are in for quite a treat if you don't know Jim Hines yet. Just do a Google Image search for "Jim Hines poses".

Blogger rycamor February 06, 2015 1:42 PM  

Trigger warning: some of them involve fuzzy, cuddly Teddy Bear love...

Blogger Owen February 06, 2015 1:43 PM  

Jim Hines poses

Eye bleach, por favor.

Anonymous Difster February 06, 2015 1:47 PM  

Now I'm depressed and I finally figured out why. It's that I'm not represented properly on black sitcoms.

Anonymous Giuseppe February 06, 2015 1:48 PM  

Rycamor,
No you bastard! I have been here long enough to understand cruelty art! I will not Google that. Dammit.

Blogger rycamor February 06, 2015 1:51 PM  

(innocent look) "What... what?"

Anonymous Mudz February 06, 2015 1:52 PM  

Once again, I’ll be looking for personal, first-hand stories between 400 and 1000 words, talking about what it’s like to not see yourself in stories...

I read a story once.
It was almost like reading a fictional story about someone who wasn't me.

It hurt me deeply.

[Adds 400 sad smileys]

Blogger Krul February 06, 2015 1:55 PM  

It's really inexplicable how I manage to enjoy Akira Kurosawa's films so much. What with it being impossible for me to relate to the characters and all.

For that matter, how is it that I enjoy Fiddler on the Roof, Coming to America, and Drunken Master? Must be my white privilege.

Blogger rycamor February 06, 2015 1:56 PM  

@Guiseppe,

Just went to Hines blog and saw the entry you metioned:

I love this. Partly because I’m a sucker for babies. Partly because of the contrast between the cute baby and the utterly bad-ass protagonist. Partly because she looks both dangerous and competent. I have no doubt she could shift the kid to one arm, draw her weapon, and start blowing bad guys away.

What *is* it with these guys and their worship of women as man-killers?

Blogger Joshua Dyal February 06, 2015 2:04 PM  

Rycamor,
No you bastard! I have been here long enough to understand cruelty art! I will not Google that. Dammit.


It's more funny in a schadenfreude kind of way than disturbing or scary.

Blogger pdwalker February 06, 2015 2:10 PM  

The snark is strong in you people.

Blogger rycamor February 06, 2015 2:11 PM  

But still, better not to view it around lunchtime.

Blogger Krul February 06, 2015 2:15 PM  

physphilmusic - I'm a composer who writes a lot of music that can be considered atonal, and also like to use weird sound effects and techniques

Can I listen to any of your music online?

Anonymous WaterBoy February 06, 2015 2:22 PM  

Giuseppe: "in relation to a cover showing a demon-woman hilding a baby"

Interesting comment to that post, too:

"Is that actually a **gasp** WOC on the cover of ShadowShaper? Holy Hallelujah Batman! **goes off to Amazon to purchase**"

There you go, Vox -- the SJW Secret to Sales. Just put a WOC on the cover, and ring in the dough. Don't worry about all those annoying story elements like plot, or setting, or characterization. Just put an Indian princess (dot OR feather) on the cover, and you're golden!

Then, follow that up with the very next comment:

"let it be duly noted hat[sic] particular author is also Hispanic...I think I’m a little bit in love with him."

See?!? You've got TWO of those POC boxes checked, you should get DOUBLE the love!

Blogger rycamor February 06, 2015 2:27 PM  

@Waterboy,

These people really do not realize how idiotic they are perceived as by the rest of the world.

Blogger dw February 06, 2015 2:28 PM  

Rain dance, not magic lamps.

Anonymous WaterBoy February 06, 2015 2:29 PM  

Yup. Enough to make puppies sad, really.

Blogger Krul February 06, 2015 2:29 PM  

Waterboy - "Is that actually a **gasp** WOC on the cover of ShadowShaper? Holy Hallelujah Batman! **goes off to Amazon to purchase**"

Bet that, in her mind, this proves that she isn't superficial.

Anonymous WaterBoy February 06, 2015 2:30 PM  

Rez, not fez.

(Okay, it's a stretch. But historically, some Muslim Indians did wear them.)

Blogger rycamor February 06, 2015 2:36 PM  

Smoke shop, not convenience mart.

Anonymous Porky February 06, 2015 2:37 PM  

I'm a composer who writes a lot of music that can be considered atonal...

Degenerate.

Blogger rycamor February 06, 2015 2:38 PM  

Marijuana farmer not snake charmer.

Blogger dw February 06, 2015 2:44 PM  

Peyote or bowl o' curry

Blogger Giraffe February 06, 2015 2:44 PM  

VD must be Siouxish.

Anonymous kh123 February 06, 2015 2:44 PM  

" 'I have no doubt she could shift the kid to one arm, draw her weapon, and start blowing bad guys away.'

What *is* it with these guys and their worship of women as man-killers?"


Maybe the commentator's from Rotherham.

Anonymous WaterBoy February 06, 2015 2:45 PM  

From rycamor's linked article:

"Oglala Sioux tribal Councilwoman Ellen Fills the Pipe, chairwoman of the council's Law and Order Committee, said Thursday she needs to review the federal policy more thoroughly but that given her long background in law enforcement, she opposes loosening marijuana laws."

Ellen...Fills the Pipe.

Opposes filling the pipe.

*smirk*

Blogger Krul February 06, 2015 2:46 PM  

Bead, not rupee.

Hey-ya-ho-ya, not Ohm.

How, not cow.

Anonymous Jill February 06, 2015 2:47 PM  

As a poor little white trash conservative indie writer, I feel really maligned and underrepresented. I wonder if anybody would be interested in my story. Probably not.They weren't at the university either. Bummer.

Blogger Chris Mallory February 06, 2015 2:48 PM  

"Bourbon, not turban."

Who is giving the red savages our good Bourbon?
Just mix some hand sanitizer or Aquanet hairspray with water and they are happy to drink it.

Blogger Krul February 06, 2015 2:49 PM  

Giver, not style.

Blogger dw February 06, 2015 2:49 PM  

Scalp or scope

Blogger Guitar Man February 06, 2015 2:50 PM  

Jill, you're a poor white girl. That's still more of a victim story than my story: a poor white trash boy who climbed out of the trash.

OpenID genericviews February 06, 2015 2:58 PM  

Reminds me of the new show on the TV: How to Get Away with Murder. I only saw the previews. Lead character is a black women supergenious who can do anything and is strong and empowered. One of her doe-eyed black female students mumbles, "I want to be her". Which seems the whole point of the series.

Pass.

Anonymous WaterBoy February 06, 2015 2:59 PM  

Back to the OP:

"And there’s a painful irony when conversations about representation end up spotlighting some guy who’s part of the most overrepresented group in the country."

Vox:

"I will pen a personal and first-hand story about how terribly hard it was for me growing up Indian (feather, not dot) in a land full of pretty, blonde Scandinavian girls who had settled upon the ancestral lands of my tribal cousins, and I trust Mr. Hines will help the healing begin by including it in Invisible 2."

Dude has no idea there's a whole metric ton of irony headed his way.

Of course, he's probably got one o' them newfangled SJW industrial decision engines: irony in, hypocrisy out.

Anonymous Daniel February 06, 2015 3:02 PM  

As a poor little white trash conservative indie writer, I feel really maligned and underrepresented. I wonder if anybody would be interested in my story. Probably not.They weren't at the university either. Bummer.

That's not what matters. What matters is...are you on Nero's list of acquaintences? If so, where do you rank? More importantly, are you a SCRIBE, WASP or TROUBLE?

Anonymous Jill February 06, 2015 3:05 PM  

What I find so very odd about the sob story is that there seems to be an almost childish focus on a company's product lines personally attacking someone. Most companies are in it to make money (or at least they used to be), and consequently they create products for target markets that will sell. That would mean that horsey-romance books sell to girls. And they continue to sell, or the libraries wouldn't be full of them to this day. So, really, her problem should be with her parents, who thought she should be manipulated by one kind of target-marketing rather than another. There ARE self-help books that deal with these kinds of problems. But I forgot. She doesn't like self-help books targeted at females.

p.s. Guitar Man, the emperor may not be wearing finery, but I am, so I guess I'm not so poor, after all.

Anonymous Daniel February 06, 2015 3:05 PM  

"Is that actually a **gasp** WOC on the cover of ShadowShaper? Holy Hallelujah Batman! **goes off to Amazon to purchase**"

Wait a minute. Did she just swoon at the prospect of purchasing a black woman?

Blogger Marissa February 06, 2015 3:09 PM  

The farce of a chain starts with this one https://twitter.com/jimchines/status/562624097637896193 (I'd include the whole lot in the message but I'm not that technical. Apologies if links are against the rules)

One of the commentators is a Quaker woman who's dressed like a nun...what a strange group of folks.

Anonymous Jill February 06, 2015 3:10 PM  

Nero...? Scribe, wasp, or trouble? I don't understand these words.

Anonymous Eric Ashley February 06, 2015 3:10 PM  

Sioux, not snakecharmer
Weird English name (Talking Beefalo); weird Non-English name.
Columbus found; failed

Anonymous Stickwick February 06, 2015 3:12 PM  

"At 16, confused and vulnerable, I gave it all up. I took no more “hard” science courses. I left the math classes to the boys, just like the boys wanted."

In my experience, women have a hard time dealing with resistance and defeat, so they pin their failures on others. In all likelihood, the point at which she quit is when the math and science were no longer easy for her, and rather than make the decision to work hard or accept her own limitations, she gave up and blamed someone else.

Math and science were always easy for me... right up until grad school. Man, that first semester was a bucket of cold water in the face. I struggled with one course in particular, and I'll never forget the professor straight-up telling me, "You don't belong here." I ended up with a C in the course, which in grad school is a failing grade. I thought, screw you, I'm staying. I'm going to work my rear off. You can kick me out or graduate me, but I'm not leaving. Got my degree, and I still work there as a research scientist.

Any girl who wants to become a scientist or engineer should watch October Sky to see how boys typically deal with setbacks and defeat. The main character, a teenaged Homer Hickam, wants to be a rocket scientist more than anything, but lacks the mathematical chops. What does he do? Single-mindedly focuses on math and rocketry and studies his rear off. He also perseveres through some significant dream-crushing, including his father's lack of support and getting (wrongly) blamed for one of his rockets causing a major fire. Hickam's perseverance paid off, and he went on to become a rocket scientist at NASA, just like he wanted.

The bottom line is, if you don't persevere through setbacks, failures, and discouragement, you either don't want it enough or you don't have the ability. It's your fault, not anyone else's.

Anonymous Xolotl February 06, 2015 3:16 PM  

Quetzalcoatl, not Kali

Blogger Krul February 06, 2015 3:17 PM  

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Blogger John Wright February 06, 2015 3:20 PM  

@ genericviews. May I quote you?

"As a middle aged white guy who can't turn into a were-creature, isn't wealthy, isn't a supergenious, isn't decended from the royal family of an ancient alien empire, can't perform magic, isn't in command of hundreds of people, pays my bills on time, and never gets attacked by terrorists so I can shoot back.... I feel grossly under-represented by characters fiction. THAT'S WHY I READ IT. Real life is boring. "

Genius. Poetry!

OpenID genericviews February 06, 2015 3:20 PM  

When I was a Plebe at West Point, some of the upper classmen told me I had no future int eh Army and I did not belong there. I was several inches chorter than their average and had problems with authority. 28 years later I finally agreed with them and retired. Lesson: Always listen to the baseless opinions of other people.

Blogger Krul February 06, 2015 3:20 PM  

Stickwick - October Sky

Film is good.

Book, Rocket Boys, is better. As one can probably guess from a comparison of the two titles.

Notably, the film glosses over a lot of the technical research and chemistry work the Rocket Boys had to do to get their rockets to fly.

Anonymous Donn February 06, 2015 3:21 PM  

You're way to short to be a Sioux or as the Native Americans say Lakota. Didn't you write that when you met Dolph Lundgren a totally normal height man (you wrote that you could run under the hem of his leather jacket or something similar when you met him in Japan or am I getting my two favorite little people confused?).

Anonymous Donn February 06, 2015 3:22 PM  

Man that was incoherent. I should never write with pneumonia.

Blogger Guitar Man February 06, 2015 3:26 PM  

Dolph is 6'5". Not sure if troll.

Anonymous Papapete February 06, 2015 3:30 PM  

Voxamort or Voldevox?

Anonymous bw February 06, 2015 3:31 PM  

I left the math classes to the boys, just like the boys wanted

Yes! I remember all those oppressive high school campaigns to keep girls out of math classes.
I wonder what else she left with the boys?

OpenID The Practical Conservative February 06, 2015 3:32 PM  

No, willpower's limited. It is a luxury to be able to "tough it out" in grad school. It's also a luxury to be able to crawl out of the trash without blood relations using heartstrings to yank you right back down.

Doesn't make those struggles not struggles, but for pity's sake, the idea that something is wrong with loving people and wanting to climb up out of the trash with a couple of them is part of the reason SJWs get traction at all. It is heartless to be an up-and-outer and leave all your kin and history behind. There is something genuinely wrong and anti-traditional about the "conservatives" who are like this.

Identity matters, it's just the SJWs have a ridiculous approach and don't understand that the natural result of caring about identity is...isms and that those isms are reasonable human emotions.

Success doesn't always require being cut off from your history and identity. It also doesn't require playing up a shallow conception of "identity" to appeal to bored middle class whites who are too lazy to look at their own identities and histories.

But I'm just a housewife who didn't check off any feminist boxes before becoming a housewife. I also married my blond Norseman because I wanted to get old with him, not to strike a blow against oppreshun.

I'm black and read plenty of black fiction and nonfiction about people like me. I managed to find it without people having to create guides for me. But I also "found myself" represented in tons of fiction and nonfiction that wasn't explicitly about growing up rural and Southern and black.

Representation does matter, but it's not the only thing that does. Blood matters too.

Anonymous NateM February 06, 2015 3:34 PM  

So she didn't end up in the Space Program, because people discouraged her and told her not to read boy books, so she got butthurt and wouldn't take science courses. Yaaaaaaaaaaaaawn. Everybody has people who discourage them or try to convince them not to do things. People who are great and driven go do it anyways.

tangentially though I just mention the 'career' of the first black female astronaut, Mae Jemison, who after all the training invested in her flew a grand total of One mission, and resigned a year after she had done that. To those who don't know, once you're in the Astronaut program, they basically keep you around just based on the investment of time an money in training someone, so her leaving was a fairly obvious snub. So there's your inclusion for you. She basically wanted to be able to say she was the first black woman to do it before moving on into academics, and contributed nothing.

Anonymous Stickwick February 06, 2015 3:34 PM  

Krul: Book, Rocket Boys, is better. As one can probably guess from a comparison of the two titles.

The book is almost always better. Interestingly, October Sky is an anagram of Rocket Boys.

Anonymous Phallic Blast Off February 06, 2015 3:34 PM  

Book, Rocket Boys, is better

And for the adults:

Sex and Rockets: The Occult World of Jack Parsons

Anonymous Jill February 06, 2015 3:36 PM  

All I remember were oppressive campaigns to keep both boys and girls in math classes....as schools are really oppressive that way.

Anonymous VD February 06, 2015 3:40 PM  

Reminds me of the new show on the TV: How to Get Away with Murder. I only saw the previews. Lead character is a black women supergenious who can do anything and is strong and empowered. One of her doe-eyed black female students mumbles, "I want to be her". Which seems the whole point of the series.

Yep. Shonda whatever her name is shows tend to revolve around making sure the short fat black woman wins. I have no idea what she looks like, but I will bet that she is a short, fat, black woman.

Anonymous kalel666 February 06, 2015 3:49 PM  

Yep. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shonda_Rhimes#mediaviewer/File:Shonda_Rhimes_2008.jpg

Blogger Joshua Dyal February 06, 2015 3:49 PM  

I don't know how tall Shonda Rhimes is, but she is fat and black.

Blogger IM2L844 February 06, 2015 3:53 PM  

It also doesn't require playing up a shallow conception of "identity" to appeal to bored middle class whites who are too lazy to look at their own identities and histories.

Lazy has nothing to do with it.

Anonymous Noah B. February 06, 2015 3:55 PM  

"I don't know how tall Shonda Rhimes is, but she is fat and black."

No you didn't!

Anonymous Donn February 06, 2015 3:55 PM  

Dolph is 6'5". Not sure if troll.

No troll I'm an inch shorter than that. Obviously, Dolph is well within average height. Just kidding.

I was just joking because most of the Sioux I've met have been big guys and Vox is on the shy side of six feet.

Anonymous Innocent question February 06, 2015 4:02 PM  

Speakin of tv shows, amazon has a new one called "men from the high castle" or something like that. Just one episode so far. The premise is that Japan invaded and conquered the West Coast in World War II. It looks totally believable. Is there any source of incredibly voluminous info available somewhere so that we could discuss the likelihood of this actually happening?

Blogger Chiva February 06, 2015 4:28 PM  

Did you mean "The Man in the High Castle"? I read the book a long time ago.

Anonymous physphilmusic February 06, 2015 4:32 PM  

Can I listen to any of your music online?

I'd rather not reveal my real name here, but if you gave me an email address I can send you a link. Alternatively you can contact me at physphilmusic AT gmail.com

Anonymous Noah B. February 06, 2015 4:40 PM  

"It looks totally believable."

We were right on the brink. If the battle of Midway had gone just a little bit differently, we'd be writing this in kana.

Blogger Marissa February 06, 2015 4:41 PM  

Speakin of tv shows, amazon has a new one called "men from the high castle" or something like that. Just one episode so far. The premise is that Japan invaded and conquered the West Coast in World War II. It looks totally believable. Is there any source of incredibly voluminous info available somewhere so that we could discuss the likelihood of this actually happening?

It started as a book by Philip K. Dick and it's well worth reading but there's no discussion of how the Japanese did it (a la Michelle Malkin).

Anonymous WaterBoy February 06, 2015 4:43 PM  

Innocent question: " Is there any source of incredibly voluminous info available somewhere so that we could discuss the likelihood of this actually happening?"

Bite. Your. Tongue.

Anonymous Feh February 06, 2015 4:51 PM  

"It started as a book by Philip K. Dick and it's well worth reading but there's no discussion of how the Japanese did it"

IIRC, from reading the book many years ago, Roosevelt was assassinated in 1933 and subsequent presidents (including an isolationist Republican, of course) failed to lead the country out of the Depression and did nothing to respond to Axis aggression.

Anonymous Fran February 06, 2015 4:51 PM  

That "How To Get Away With Murder" show sounds like a Dexter ripoff.
Now there was a real Alpha for ya. Haha.

OpenID cailcorishev February 06, 2015 4:52 PM  

I never had a moment where I felt like I didn't have characters to relate to.

I, a white farm kid from the Midwest, had all of Bill Cosby's albums when I was growing up (yes, even Disco Bill), in which he talked about growing up in urban Philadelphia. I didn't always understand his references, because where I came from no one ever walked across a bridge or played sports in the road (street), but they were still entirely relevant to my life and were the funniest stuff I'd ever heard.

If someone says he can't relate to the people in stories unless they look and live just like him, I have to assume either he's lying, or he has no normal human empathy that allows him to relate to the human experience without an ideological motive.

OpenID cailcorishev February 06, 2015 4:55 PM  

All I remember were oppressive campaigns to keep both boys and girls in math classes

Heh, yeah. I liked math, but that made me an outlier. The way she describes it, you'd think the shop teacher and basketball coach had to come down to the math classroom and drag the boys out when it was their turn with them.

Anonymous Ha February 06, 2015 4:55 PM  

I will pen a personal and first-hand story about how terribly hard it was for me growing up Indian (feather, not dot) in a land full of pretty, blonde Scandinavian girls who had settled upon the ancestral lands of my tribal cousins

It must be made into an Amazon video series! Mainly so they can use Cher's "Halfbreed" as the theme music.

Blogger Anthony February 06, 2015 4:56 PM  

@Innocent question:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_in_the_High_Castle

It's by Philip K. Dick. According to Wikipedia, it "deals with justice and injustice ... gender and power ... the shame of cultural inferiority and identity ... and the effects of fascism and racism upon culture"

There we go - another dead white european male dealing just with dead white european males.

Anonymous Ha February 06, 2015 4:58 PM  

I never had a moment where I felt like I didn't have characters to relate to.

As a suburban computer geek with thick glasses, I related especially well to mighty-thewed barbarians who could split skulls with a single stroke of their broadaxe.

Blogger James Dixon February 06, 2015 4:58 PM  

> ...or the first time you found a character you could really relate to ...

Yeah, Scalzi. That would be the book "The Daybreakers" by Louis L'Amour, and the character would be Tyrel Sackett. I'm sure you'd be thrilled to hear all about it.

> The farce of a chain starts with this one https://twitter.com/jimchines/status/562624097637896193

Hmm. I don't have a Twitter account, so I can't view the whole thing. But wait a minute. Doesn't that background image show some less than fully clad females? Someone alert the thought police.

> Is the SFWA truly just an offshoot of NAMBLA now?

Given their adoration of certain folks, it would be hard to argue otherwise.

Blogger Marissa February 06, 2015 4:59 PM  

Thanks, Feh. I didn't remember that part. All the weird I Ching stuff clouds my memory of that book.

Anonymous Jeromus February 06, 2015 5:03 PM  

Speaking of alternate history, any recommendations on some good alternate history fiction out there?

Anonymous Stingray February 06, 2015 5:05 PM  

Stickwick,

I cannot imagine that woman's response to meeting you. Her head would likely explode.

Anonymous Noah B. February 06, 2015 5:20 PM  

@Stickwick

There's a valuable lesson there. In America, if you work hard and follow your dreams, you can indeed be a rocket scientist. If instead you slide by on privilege, refuse to take responsibility for anything and constantly blame others for your own shortcomings, then you can be President.

Blogger S1AL February 06, 2015 5:29 PM  

@Jeromus - if you like action-happy alt history with magic, Correia's Grimnoir Chronicles is wonderfully entertaining.

Also, any girl claiming that the guys who were good at math didn't want her around was either any idiot or a witch, and even then I'm not convinced. Mathematical types, and engineers especially, are by-and-large completely uncaring with regards to sex, race, nationality, or any label that's not "competent" or "smart."

Blogger S1AL February 06, 2015 5:42 PM  

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Blogger Quadko February 06, 2015 5:54 PM  

Linked Kerr:It may be hard to imagine now, but there used to be fixed categories of Boys’ Books and Girls’ Books.
Snort. Because Twilight/Shades - those are for everyone, just like Hallmark Channel movies. And Narnia / Dark is Rising / Enid Blyton / Grimm - fantastical kids adventure books books just didn't have, like, boys and girls. Or just not the ones set in space? I remember lots of girls in Heinlein's Juveniles. I think her censorious librarians were trying to protect her as women, not hold her back because she wasn't an XY.

I look at the world through their eyes, and I see how much worse it's gotten. Then I resume my own eyes - we're winners, baby!

Anonymous Stickwick February 06, 2015 6:02 PM  

Stingray: I cannot imagine that woman's response to meeting you. Her head would likely explode.

You know what's weird? All the women I've met who've likewise succeeded in the hard sciences, but nevertheless identify with women like Kerr. They get very emotional about girls who quit STEM, as though they themselves somehow succeeded through luck or "privilege" instead of brains and hard work.

Noah B.: If instead you slide by on privilege, refuse to take responsibility for anything and constantly blame others for your own shortcomings, then you can be President.

But it's still all about male privilege! When America elects a privileged, irresponsible, blame-happy woman, then we can finally (maybe) be proud of this country.

Blogger automatthew February 06, 2015 6:02 PM  

"There we go - another dead white european male dealing just with dead white european males."

Dick is never straightforward politically, and The Man in the High Castle is similarly not straightforward. I personally don't like the book, though I very much like most of PKD's other works. But it's not at all a hysterical anti-Jap or anti-NSDAP novel.

There's an interesting essay somewhere out there on the internets that suggests PKD was exploring the JQ in Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?.

Blogger James Dixon February 06, 2015 6:39 PM  

> When America elects a privileged, irresponsible, blame-happy woman, then we can finally (maybe) be proud of this country.

Hillary is doing her best to make sure your dreams come true. :)

Anonymous Viidad February 06, 2015 6:43 PM  

Daniel: "Wait a minute. Did she just swoon at the prospect of purchasing a black woman?"

WIN

Blogger Pinakeli February 06, 2015 6:50 PM  

OK, if we are still playing this game:

You mean "Woo woo woo" or "Hello, tech support"?

--Walter (Jeff Dunham)

Anonymous Viidad February 06, 2015 6:55 PM  

Beads and looming, not curry and cumin.

Anonymous Viidad February 06, 2015 6:56 PM  

Epics from Hollywood, not dancing and Bollywood.

Anonymous Stingray February 06, 2015 7:03 PM  

Hillary is doing her best to make sure your dreams come true. :)

I seriously read this as "make sure your demons come true". Yikes.

Anonymous Stingray February 06, 2015 7:05 PM  

They get very emotional about girls who quit STEM,

I don't get it. Why? I mean, I get the herding instinct, but this is absurd. How does it help girls in any way, shape or form, let alone any one else by dumbing things down or by coercing girls into fields they really aren't interested in?

Anonymous Noah B. February 06, 2015 7:06 PM  

Carrying arrows in a quiver, not praying to the river

Blogger wrf3 February 06, 2015 7:22 PM  

Stickwick wrote: "When America elects a privileged, irresponsible, blame-happy woman, then we can finally (maybe) be proud of this country."

Ugh. There was an article today about Carly Fiorna (sp?) considering running on the Republican ticket. She destroyed HP.

Blogger MATT February 06, 2015 7:28 PM  

I remember zero anti girl sentiment amongst the nerds, or in gym class. No one really cared about snything at all. In fact, the girls were usually getting the good grades. But this was before the PUBERTY INDUCED SELF ESTEEM PLUMMET.

Really, what the hell are these idiots going on about with their strange fantasies? Girls rule the schools in every way except athletically, and always have.

Anonymous Noah B. February 06, 2015 7:56 PM  

Tonto, not Tantra

Blogger SQT February 06, 2015 7:57 PM  

As a suburban computer geek with thick glasses, I related especially well to mighty-thewed barbarians who could split skulls with a single stroke of their broadaxe.

So you never saw "War Games" or "Weird Science" -- or any John Landis film that went out of its way to empathize with the awkward, geeky teenager? Or read books that featured characters like Frodo? I feel like the entertainment I grew up with really understood the misfits.

Blogger SQT February 06, 2015 8:03 PM  

If someone says he can't relate to the people in stories unless they look and live just like him, I have to assume either he's lying, or he has no normal human empathy that allows him to relate to the human experience without an ideological motive.

Well said. We loved Cosby back in the day too. My kids watch "The Fresh Prince of Bel Air" every morning before school--- and we sure as heck don't live in a mansion in SoCal!

Anonymous NateM February 06, 2015 8:06 PM  

They get very emotional about girls who quit STEM,

I don't get it. Why? I mean, I get the herding instinct, but this is absurd. How does it help girls in any way, shape or form, let alone any one else by dumbing things down or by coercing girls into fields they really aren't interested in?

Exactly. I mean a number of my friends in college were engineering major, and tons of people quit that major. Basically their attitude was If they hate the classes this much, they really won't enjoy being an engineer as a career, so they are better off studying something else.

Anonymous pseudotsuga February 06, 2015 8:15 PM  

Jeromus: "Speaking of alternate history, any recommendations on some good alternate history fiction out there?"
Have you read any of Eric Flint's 1632 series? It features a 20th century West Virginia town full of "can-do" type country folks being transported back in time and across to space to Germany in the 1600s.
(Bonus points--Flint's former career included labor organizing, so you can check off the box for socialist if you are keeping score like the SJW folk do.)

Blogger James Dixon February 06, 2015 8:18 PM  

> Have you read any of Eric Flint's 1632 series? It features a 20th century West Virginia town full of "can-do" type country folks being transported back in time and across to space to Germany in the 1600s.

Yeah. Pretty much the town I live near. We've had some fans over for a visit.

Anonymous Noah B. February 06, 2015 8:20 PM  

tipi, not I.T.

Anonymous Yeehah February 06, 2015 8:32 PM  

a 20th century West Virginia town full of "can-do" type country folks being transported back in time and across to space to Germany in the 1600s.

And they teach the 1600s krauts how to get fat and cook meth?

Anonymous Stickwick February 06, 2015 9:07 PM  

Stingray: I don't get it. Why? I mean, I get the herding instinct, but this is absurd. How does it help girls in any way, shape or form, let alone any one else by dumbing things down or by coercing girls into fields they really aren't interested in?

I don't get it either. Maybe our venerable host can explain, when he can take a few minutes off from opening casinos.

Blogger bob k. mando February 06, 2015 9:12 PM  

Giuseppe February 06, 2015 1:48 PM
No you bastard! I have been here long enough to understand cruelty art! I will not Google that. Dammit.



okay.

how bout "Scalzi dress"?



cailcorishev February 06, 2015 4:52 PM
or he has no normal human empathy that allows him to relate to the human experience without an ideological motive.




otherwise known as a sociopath.

Anonymous zen0 February 06, 2015 9:18 PM  

Head-Smashed-In Buffalo Jump, not Sacred Cow.

Anonymous Viidad February 06, 2015 9:21 PM  

Custer's last stand, not Tantric handstands

Blogger bob k. mando February 06, 2015 9:32 PM  

Noah B. February 06, 2015 7:56 PM
Tonto, not Tantra



well, there you go. that's why Vox has such a chip on his shoulder.

but for a simple mistake of geography, he could have been a sexual god.

"buttocks upon the five winged Garuda bird"!




Jeromus February 06, 2015 5:03 PM
Speaking of alternate history, any recommendations on some good alternate history fiction out there?



SM Stirlings 'Marching Through Georgia' ( Russia, not peanut ) books are pretty good.


Marissa February 06, 2015 3:09 PM
One of the commentators is a Quaker woman who's dressed like a nun...what a strange group of folks.




that's not a nun's habit and certainly not a full wimple.

what she's wearing may be a bit odd for a modern Quaker, but it's pretty much how Mennonite and Amish women dress all the time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_headcovering#Current_practice

Anonymous zen0 contrite February 06, 2015 9:41 PM  

> Custer's last stand, not Tantric handstands

Ok, let me amend.

Buffalo Jump, not Sacred Cow Hump

Sioux Nation, not Reincarnation

Anonymous kh123 February 06, 2015 9:53 PM  

White annexation, not white annexation.

Blogger Shibes Meadow February 06, 2015 9:56 PM  

日本帝国は北米を侵略する意図がなかった。

Anonymous Viidad February 06, 2015 10:01 PM  

@zen0

Nice

Anonymous Feh February 06, 2015 10:01 PM  

How does it help girls in any way, shape or form, let alone any one else by dumbing things down or by coercing girls into fields they really aren't interested in?

Why give the Left credit for "good intentions"?

Most of the time their goal is simple: the destruction of the good.

http://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/2015/01/why-are-secular-people-so-reluctant-to.html

Anonymous Viidad February 06, 2015 10:02 PM  

Overrun by the Brits, and overrun by the Brits

Anonymous Steve February 06, 2015 10:02 PM  

"And there’s a painful irony when conversations about representation end up spotlighting some guy who’s part of the most overrepresented group in the country."

Scalzi's a jew?

Anonymous zen0 February 06, 2015 10:05 PM  

Wounded Knee, not drinking pee.

Blogger IM2L844 February 06, 2015 10:19 PM  

Hau, not Namaste.

Anonymous Steve February 06, 2015 10:28 PM  

"And there’s a painful irony when conversations about representation end up spotlighting some guy who’s part of the most overrepresented group in the country."

Scalzi's a jew?


Lol,should have read more carefully. Still,though, Hines doesn't sound like a very jewish name to me.

Blogger Shibes Meadow February 06, 2015 10:30 PM  

Washington football, not Cleveland baseball.

Anonymous Anubis February 06, 2015 11:14 PM  

Push the 4g analogy. Tomahawk not gurkha. Just the thought of it would make rabbits squeal.

Anonymous Anubis February 06, 2015 11:19 PM  

"Wounded Knee, not drinking pee"

I didn't know Bear Grylls was an dot Indian

Blogger bob k. mando February 06, 2015 11:34 PM  

Anubis February 06, 2015 11:19 PM
I didn't know Bear Grylls was an dot Indian


now you done did it.


uh, nsfw Bear Grylls ....


http://img7.joyreactor.com/pics/post/real-man-bear-grylls-period-woman-546557.jpeg

Anonymous Jack Amok February 06, 2015 11:52 PM  

Firewater, not slurpee set the bar high early, and it's been pretty badly downhill ever since (though zen0 sort of salvaged things).

Blogger rycamor February 06, 2015 11:55 PM  

Oh come on

Hot squaw, not wife suttee.

Anonymous kawaika February 07, 2015 12:22 AM  

"I was just joking because most of the Sioux I've met have been big guys and Vox is on the shy side of six feet."

That means he's... a Jioux!

Anonymous The other skeptic February 07, 2015 12:26 AM  

Another reason to stop those immigrants:

Claims that Female Genital Mutilation has tripled in 25 years.

Anonymous pseudotsuga February 07, 2015 1:06 AM  

I'm trying to figure out why "that" side of the aisle insists that it's so important to self-identify in your fiction/art/etc. I suspect that it's narcissism at work. If you're the kind of person Scalzi wants anecdotes from, what you want in your fiction is a mirror, a story full of people like you. Why? Because you're so interesting and so special--and nobody knows it.
I have come to realize that I read all the wrong books starting in my childhood: Dr Seuss? No people like me. Richard Scarry? No animals like me. Little Black Sambo? No people like me. Encyclopedia Brown? Nope, not like me (although I wanted to be him!) Mad Scientists' Club? No, those boys and I had very little in common. Corebett's The Lemonade Trick? Nope. The Dark is Rising? No, I'm American. The Hobbit? Nope. Lord of the Rings? Nope. (and all the way from Piers Anthony to Marion Zimmer Bradley--nobody like me. Oh sure, there were some white American kids who lived in small towns in the books....but they weren't like me.
I guess no author deemed I was worth pandering to.
But it was sure interesting reading about people who weren't like me!

(OT -- as I was walking down the halls of a college today, I noted a poster for some upcoming talk about Native American rights of some sort. The credentialed speakers apparently have made a career out of--and I am NOT making this up--generational victimhood. Whatever happened to your grand or greatgrands has apparently damaged you, too.
My mind boggled....)

Blogger IM2L844 February 07, 2015 2:04 AM  

For all the equivocations, conflations, false equivalencies and goal post moving in an effort to blur them, the battle lines are becoming that much more clear and vivid each day. Thank you John Scalzi, Jim Hines, President Obama and all the rest of the despicable prevaricators. You're performing a great service.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit February 07, 2015 4:31 AM  

I think I understand this "representation" thing. SJWs like McRapey and McCreepy grew up like most boys reading/watching the exciting exploits of the heroes who beat the bad guys and got the girl. However, they couldn't relate the courage, determination and heroics to anything in their own inner void. The only thing they had in common with the protagonists was genitals and skin coloration - these must therefore be the cause of the frissons the tales gave them.

Since they are rabbity-socialists, everyone body else in the whole world must feel the same (or feelz aren't validated) so stories are all about genitals and skin color of the protagonists. QED

Anyone else imagine a flayed white skin of a "friend" stretched on a tanning frame surrounded by candles somewhere in the background as these creeps write their blog posts?

Oh and,
"Sitting Bull not sacred cow."

Blogger Manveer Claire February 07, 2015 9:04 AM  

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Blogger Manveer Claire February 07, 2015 9:24 AM  

I'm glad there aren't characters that represents me in mainstream western movies or television in terms of race. They would likely turn some of the characters into leftist butt pirates, and bring nothing but shame to my people.

Anonymous EH February 07, 2015 2:03 PM  

Quetzalcoatl, not cattle-coddle

Anonymous beerme February 07, 2015 10:35 PM  

Speaking of alternate history, any recommendations on some good alternate history fiction out there? David Drake and Eric Flint's Belisarius series is decent enough. The series is focused on two warring entities from the future going back in time to change the course of history with the Byzantines and Indians(slurpee) as proxies.

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