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Wednesday, February 11, 2015

Who can explain the mystery?

Isn't it remarkable that despite the fact that everyone there so values diversity and agrees that it is the most important aspect of education, the San Francisco schools are highly segregated?
Each January, parents across San Francisco rank their preferences for public schools. By June, most get their children into their first choices, and almost three-quarters get one of their choices.

A majority of families may be satisfied with the outcome, but the student assignment system is failing to meet its No. 1 goal, which the San Francisco Unified School District has struggled to achieve since the 1960s: classroom diversity.

Since 2010, the year before the current policy went into effect, the number of San Francisco’s 115 public schools dominated by one race has climbed significantly. Six in 10 have simple majorities of one racial group. In almost one-fourth, 60 percent or more of the students belong to one racial group, which administrators say makes them “racially isolated.” That described 28 schools in 2013–2014, up from 23 in 2010–2011, according to the district.

But the San Francisco Public Press has found the problem may be even more stark: If Asian and Filipino students are counted together — the standard used by the Census — together the number of racially isolated schools in the last school year rose to 39.

The drive toward racial isolation in the district parallels a larger trend in the city: With many wealthier families opting for private alternatives, the public school system is becoming racially and economically isolated from the city as a whole.

Why does it matter whether schools are diverse? One reason is academic performance. Recent studies from Stanford and the University of California, Berkeley, show that many students do much better on tests when placed in integrated classrooms, and that all kids are much less likely to grow up with racial stereotypes and prejudices. Far from being opposed to each other, excellence and diversity go hand in hand.

How did this resegregation of schools happen in a city where almost everyone from district leaders to parents supports the ideal of diversity?
And they've got studies show and everything! How did this happen to such a nice group of diversity-loving liberals? It's almost as if... parents are choosing something other than diversity?

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106 Comments:

Blogger Giraffe February 11, 2015 4:05 PM  

The obvious solution is to not let parents choose. We can only allow choice when people make the right choice.

Anonymous Will Best February 11, 2015 4:11 PM  

Bait

Why does it matter whether schools are diverse? One reason is academic performance.

Switch

Recent studies from Stanford and the University of California, Berkeley, show that many students do much better on tests when placed in integrated classrooms

Not the kids that were going to do better if their whole classroom experience would have been more rigorous without LCD.

Anonymous Alexander February 11, 2015 4:13 PM  

We used to have a phrase for those "many"

The talented tenth.

Blogger Owen February 11, 2015 4:17 PM  

Recent studies from Stanford and the University of California, Berkeley, show that many students do much better on tests when placed in integrated classrooms,

Which students would that be?

and that all kids are much less likely to grow up with racial stereotypes and prejudices.

I'm not so sure of that.

Anonymous Jasper February 11, 2015 4:18 PM  

Did I correctly understand the article as saying... San Francisco cannot afford to let the (citizen) children of citizens walk to school... because the school district needs to feed and educate the (citizen) children of fatherless illegal aliens?

Anonymous DaveD February 11, 2015 4:18 PM  

What the studies they talk about show is if you take 2-3 black kids in a class with 25 white, Asian & Indian kids, the black kids almost, ALMOST, wipe out the performance gap.

Of course, homeschool those same kids & they do wipe out that performance gap. We can't admit that though....

Anonymous Daniel February 11, 2015 4:21 PM  

Studies don't even show what they say the studies show. And many of the studies are fabrications in the first place!

Studies show that when you integrate smart kids with stupid kids, the kids who cheat tend to show higher test scores than they otherwise would.

Anonymous Huckleberry -- est. 1977 February 11, 2015 4:22 PM  

What's always struck me funny about diversity, or even "Diversity" is that no one wants it -- not whites, not blacks, not hispanics or latinos or asians or even filipinos.
It seems that the underlying assumption to allowing parents to pick their top 3 schools was that everyone would choose each others schools -- even if all of the whites chose white schools and minorities chose white schools, the assumption would hold.
However, all of the races appear to want to stick with their own, as if people instinctively trust their own kind over all other considerations.
But they have studies, so I'm sure everything will just work itself out naturally...

Anonymous scoobius dubious February 11, 2015 4:27 PM  

People in San Francisco have CHILDREN?!

Anonymous Jasper February 11, 2015 4:28 PM  

The good news... The system applies to all parents, even to a family therapist who works for the school district.

The bad news... The school district spends money on family therapy instead of teaching.

A scary thought... The money spent on family therapy might be better spent on family therapy than on teaching.

Anonymous Horton Hears a..... February 11, 2015 4:30 PM  

"What's always struck me funny about diversity, or even "Diversity" is that no one wants it"

Oh, there's one group that wants it very badly... for everybody else.

Blogger Yohami February 11, 2015 4:35 PM  

can never trust anything that cites "studies"

Anonymous mystery February 11, 2015 4:38 PM  

Why is the school district's Number 1 goal classroom diversity? Why isn't it teaching? Or at the very least, making sure every student goes where he wants to go?

Blogger Danby February 11, 2015 4:43 PM  

...kids are much less likely to grow up with racial stereotypes and prejudices."

I'd like to see the methodology on this. It is exactly the opposite of my experience. Only people who grow up in the absence of another racial group can afford the luxury of believing all people to be the same.

Anonymous Bah February 11, 2015 4:48 PM  

"With many wealthier families opting for private alternatives, the public school system is becoming racially and economically isolated from the city as a whole."

Oh no, the privilege!

"How did this resegregation of schools happen in a city where almost everyone from district leaders to parents supports the ideal of diversity?"

How indeed... lip service and reality tend to differ.

"the biggest culprit, say outside researchers and local education leaders, is the feature that defines the student assignment system: school choice."

But wait, choice is good, right? oh not THAT kind of choice...

“Choice is inherently inequitable,” San Francisco Board of Education member Sandra Fewer said at a December meeting on student assignment. “If you don’t have resources, you don’t have choice.”

The Left showing their true colors as always.

"She found that black and Latino students did better at diverse schools than they did at ones where their race was in the majority."

Evidently, rich white liberals don't regard that as their problem.

"Children from poor and working-class families, disproportionately black and Latino, often end up in underperforming schools."

Reversing cause and effect there.

“A segregated society is not a sustainable society,” said Rodolfo Mendoza-Denton, a UC Berkeley psychologist who studies prejudice and achievement.

Gee he sounds like a totally unbiased observer. /sarc

"The effort to diversify schools is closely tied to the choices that white families make."

And this must clearly be stopped!

Blogger Marissa February 11, 2015 4:50 PM  

"With many wealthier families opting for private alternatives, the public school system is becoming racially and economically isolated from the city as a whole."

But the wealthier families are still paying taxes to their public school districts...so what is the issue? It's not like people donate to their elementary alma mater.

Anonymous PA February 11, 2015 4:53 PM  

What they want is for White kids to grow up without a culture or an identity. All forms of ethnic or cultural diversity in formative years are harmful -- even diversity with high-functioning aliens -- if they contribute to cultural incoherence.

And this is why the "kids need to know how to interact in a diverse world" canard is wrong: you can speak confidently to a stranger only if you already know who you are.

Anonymous karsten February 11, 2015 4:55 PM  

"What's always struck me funny about diversity, or even "Diversity" is that no one wants it"

Oh, there's one group that wants it very badly... for everybody else.


THIS is the pertinent point.

Blogger frigger611 February 11, 2015 4:55 PM  

Wealthy liberals are the most racist people on the planet, if self-segregation is any measure.
Where does Pelosi live, BTW?
Martha's vineyard is basically 100% white/Caucasian unless the Obamas are visiting.
And Bradford Ohio, where John Scalzi calls home, is only 98.9% white/Caucasian. He practically lives in the ghetto!

Anonymous PA February 11, 2015 4:56 PM  

Non-white advocates of diversity want to consume the social capital of Whites with nothing given in exchange to those Whites.

"Our" governments are active facitators of this one-way consumption.

Anonymous Anubis February 11, 2015 5:03 PM  

Just think of how bad it would be if East Asians and whites where counted together. Dievisity for thee but not for me. I wasn't racist until I was around enough blacks to realize I should have meet a good one by the law of large numbers. I still have not meet one in real life as smart as seen on TV.

Blogger JCclimber February 11, 2015 5:03 PM  

4 days after our first child was born, we moved out of San Francisco to a small, nearby rural town. One of my wife's patients asked her why we did that. He was on a SF government board that was trying to make SF more child friendly. San Francisco has around 100,000 fewer school age children than 30 years ago.

Read that again. 100,000 few children than 30 years ago, although the overall population has grown. Add into the increasing enrollment in private schools, and those public schools are increasingly for the ?????

We have good friends whose children are in one of the "good" SF schools. Their little girls are like tiny hoochie mamas because that is what all of their classmates are like. In the summer time, they go to Japan for 6 weeks of public school. Their behavior is completely different for awhile after they return from Japan.

A member of our church was an elementary teacher in the SF public school system. It is a mess.

Anonymous DavidK February 11, 2015 5:04 PM  

Liberals certainly support the ideal of diversity, but supporting the reality of diversity isn't such a high priority.

Blogger JCclimber February 11, 2015 5:07 PM  

Oh, the person on the SF agency to help increase SF's appeal to families....

His best argument for why we should raise our family in Sodom?
" San Francisco just passed a law that ALL taxis in San Francisco must be hybrid or electric or other clean vehicle. That's showing just how child friendly our city policies are now".

Clueless. Absolutely clueless. I'm sure he would say that declaring San Francisco to be Sanctuary City for illegal aliens, including those convicted of criminal offenses, is also child friendly because it keeps the illegal families together.

Blogger Marissa February 11, 2015 5:08 PM  

Steve Sailer had a recent article about fastest-gentrifying cities and Portland and Austin were in the top 10. I think SF was there as well. Liberal whites are all talk.

Blogger JCclimber February 11, 2015 5:11 PM  

Other Obama loving friends had a very expensive house in Berzerkely, but their children "lost" the school system lottery and were going to be enrolled in one of the "diverse" schools that this liberal family supported in principle.

Until this happened to their own family (you are locked into that school until high school for your entire family).

They sold their house and moved 3 miles to the neighboring city so that their children could enroll in that public school. I'd estimate their cost at about $250,000 to make this move.

Liberal logic.

Blogger Roy Lofquist February 11, 2015 5:18 PM  

"Birds of a feather flock together" - goes back to the 16th century and possibly to Plato.

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/birds-of-a-feather-flock-together.html

Leftist just flat ass don't like people and are continually denying human nature.

Anonymous Trimegistus February 11, 2015 5:19 PM  

Prediction: San Francisco, and then California, and then the Feds will begin assigning every kid to a school. Because "diversity."

And when the whites all start going to private schools, they'll decide that all schools must be open to everyone . . .

. . . except the super-expensive private schools that politicians' kids go to, of course.

Anonymous BioShock Jock February 11, 2015 5:25 PM  

Yes, sad yet true. Super so-called liberal cities like New York, San Francisco, Los Angeles, all heavily segregated in many ways. I know an older guy who grew up in Compton, California. Then blacks began moving in and one night a black guy broke in through a window into their house and raped his grandmother. After that one day when he was walking home with his brother from school, another black guy jumped them both, held his brother down and made him give him a blowjob. Needless to say, they and pretty much the entire white population moved out. This guy was still relatively liberal when I met him when he was in his 50s or early 60s. He owned guns and knew his way around them though so he wasn't super left wing. A lot of white liberals talk smack about diversity but when a neighborhood gets too black or brown, they are the first to move out. It's darkly humorous really when that happens.

Blogger hank.jim February 11, 2015 5:27 PM  

The mystery is that the voters are not the ones with kids. The parents are increasingly non-white, they are not voting, and they are the ones choosing the schools. When you select the schools, you don't know if one school will favor one race over another. It appears schools are preferred where you live. People are segregated where they live. That's no secret.

The hell with the increase in academic performance. I'm not hoping that underachievers will help the better performers. It seems implausible.

Anonymous Dirtnapninja February 11, 2015 5:27 PM  

The white parents don't want to be in schools dominated by Asian studybots. And no one wants to be in a school where their kids are being threatened and beaten by Vibrant Diversity

Anonymous Horton Smells a...... February 11, 2015 5:28 PM  

"Liberal whites are all talk."

No, not at all. Liberal whites (and their non-white, but rather white-looking, allies-slash-leaders) have a strategy for destroying lower-class whites who they perceive as either their enemies, or as hideous sub-human scum. This strategy is to make sure lower-class and working-class whites have their children submerged in monkey-house environments where they will get a ludicrous, propagandistic, sub-standard education, when they aren't being beaten up or sexually harassed, and will hopefully adopt the stupid, destructive attitudes and habits of the glorious vibrants.

Au contraire, mon frère, they aren't hypocrites, and they aren't "all talk"... they are evil, genocidal maniacs. And they have a strategy that is working quite well for them.

Blogger Marissa February 11, 2015 5:33 PM  

The white parents don't want to be in schools dominated by Asian cheatbots.

Anonymous Todd February 11, 2015 5:33 PM  

Fortunately two things are happening that will neutralize white flight and general white perfidy.

1. People of Color have more children than do whites

2. the USA is being populated by People of Color

Anonymous patrick kelly February 11, 2015 5:41 PM  

"will neutralize white flight ..."

....eventually leading to white fight....

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 11, 2015 5:50 PM  

Now you know why they are nothing but rhetoric. Just asking them to explain themselves destroys them. EG: Brett the Troll on the last thread, spews a whopping one sentence of bad rhetoric, but not a chance he could actually show any proof nor explain his motivations without having a near breakdown. I associate with numerous triple digit progressives and just asking them to explain themselves in detail to back up the talking points brings on the lip quivers.

Blogger slarrow February 11, 2015 5:50 PM  

A couple of guys put together an interesting little app that demonstrates how a place like San Francisco with all its hippy-dippy happy diversity lovers can nonetheless become highly segregated:

http://ncase.me/polygons/

Being SJW types, they don't like this behavior, so they run a simulation at the end where everyone demands diversity and gets everything sorted into that wonderful glorious dream of full integration--neglecting the lurking authoritarianism and actual conflicts that would exist in such a world. But it's interesting to see just how small a preference it takes for the cascading of segregation to occur.

Blogger Marissa February 11, 2015 5:57 PM  

The above simulation shows why all those villains in the old Marvel comics were right to pick on the nerds.

Anonymous Will Best February 11, 2015 6:08 PM  

I wasn't racist until I was around enough blacks to realize I should have meet a good one by the law of large numbers. I still have not meet one in real life as smart as seen on TV.

I know a few, but they all seem guilty about it. At least the ones from the US. The ones from Africa hate African Americans.


They sold their house and moved 3 miles to the neighboring city so that their children could enroll in that public school. I'd estimate their cost at about $250,000 to make this move.

The state would be wise to adopt the policy that the lottery roll applies to the house and lasts 25 years. That way the home value would soar or tank based on the outcome of the roll and how much time was left. It would make it more unfeasible to move than the already 250k hit.

That seems excessive though unless you bought in 2007 and your kid rolled the dice in 2010.

Anonymous zippo February 11, 2015 6:11 PM  

"general white perfidy."

Yes yes of course, the terrible perfidy that makes everybody on the planet want to move to white countries and live next door to them.

You assholes are hilarious.

Blogger Krul February 11, 2015 6:19 PM  

slarrow - Being SJW types, they don't like this behavior, so they run a simulation at the end where everyone demands diversity and gets everything sorted into that wonderful glorious dream of full integration

It would be interesting to have different preferences for different polygons. If, say, triangles prefer to live near squares but squares only prefer to live near other squares. I imagine we would see "Square Flight".

Anonymous Soga February 11, 2015 6:21 PM  

I also want to see the triangles trying to rob or kill squares with their pointy heads.

And so, to the squares' preferences we add: "Would move if threshold of triangle-on-square crime exceeds some %".

Blogger Crude February 11, 2015 6:22 PM  

Why does it matter whether schools are diverse? One reason is academic performance. Recent studies from Stanford and the University of California, Berkeley, show that many students do much better on tests when placed in integrated classrooms, and that all kids are much less likely to grow up with racial stereotypes and prejudices. Far from being opposed to each other, excellence and diversity go hand in hand.

Hahahahahahahaha.

*gathers breath*

HAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahaha...

Blogger Joshua Sinistar February 11, 2015 6:50 PM  

You know maybe if we passed a law making all blacks and browns go to jewish schools this nasty gap in performance would disappear. If not I'd still bet my own money that the diversity problem would magically disappear anyway. Anyone wanna bet?

Anonymous fish February 11, 2015 6:57 PM  

Fortunately two things are happening that will neutralize white flight and general white perfidy.

1. People of Color have more children than do whites

2. the USA is being populated by People of Color


Yes....I am looking forward to the "Benneton Wars"

Blogger Vox February 11, 2015 7:03 PM  

Fortunately two things are happening that will neutralize white flight and general white perfidy.

1. People of Color have more children than do whites

2. the USA is being populated by People of Color


Translation: they'll never be able to escape us unless they kill us all.

"Kill," the Lacedaemonians said.

It's remarkable that these idiots look at Zimbabwe and somehow manage to reach the conclusion: "yeah, let's do THAT."

OpenID cailcorishev February 11, 2015 7:03 PM  

They sold their house and moved 3 miles to the neighboring city so that their children could enroll in that public school.

I'm sure if you asked them, they'd tell you it had nothing to do with the makeup of the student body, but was because the local school did a crummy job, which is entirely the fault of conservatives for cutting education funding. They'd just love to send their kids to a school with loads of diversity, if they could find one that got enough funding to help all the kids excel. Unfortunately, since racist conservatives direct most of the money to white schools, that's where they had to move; but they're doing their best through their votes and political contributions to change that for the future.

Blogger Krul February 11, 2015 7:04 PM  

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Blogger Eric February 11, 2015 7:05 PM  

A majority of families may be satisfied with the outcome, but the student assignment system is failing to meet its No. 1 goal, which the San Francisco Unified School District has struggled to achieve since the 1960s: classroom diversity.

Left unasked, of course, is whether or not it's proper for a government to have these kinds of goals.

Blogger Eric February 11, 2015 7:09 PM  

Recent studies from Stanford and the University of California, Berkeley, show that many students do much better on tests when placed in integrated classrooms...

Who could possibly trust school/race data from these institutions? Even if it's true, I'll be there are just as many (or even more) who do worse. Probably more, in fact, since the system is geared such that the class doesn't move faster than the slowest student.

Anonymous Bah February 11, 2015 7:11 PM  

Perfidy? How did whites betray those to whom they owe NOTHING?

Anonymous BigGaySteve February 11, 2015 7:16 PM  

I also have left San Fran. Two big things about San Fran is the large gay homeless population that never gets counted, and that the cops wont bother to investigate any crime short of murder when both victim and criminal are diversity Olympians. Black/Brown on Asian/Gay crime is too much of a headache for them with bias claims coming in on both sides. That might be a good thing since one of my ex boyfriends actually called the cops and told them that I added sodium triphosphate to my laundry, which was removed from laundry detergents and dishwashing liquids by envirofascists but you can still buy in the paint aisle. The queens in San Fran cried when the San Fran Gate published who was actually committing bashings.

When Pamela Geller's ads showing muslims killing gays went up, all the bottoms wanted to lick muslim boots. They actually poured out good Russian vodka over the no public sex/no kiddie stuff law, but wouldn't pour out gas from countries that throw gays of roofs(part of the problem is some don't understand the phrase "stoned to death"). The law that says you can only have a car in your garage was targeted at one of the lawmakers ex boyfriends that had an art &craft making setup in his garage. http://ij.org/in-san-francisco-it-s-illegal-to-store-your-own-stuff-in-your-own-garage

Blogger Krul February 11, 2015 7:17 PM  

Todd - 1. People of Color have more children than do whites

2. the USA is being populated by People of Color


Demographics of the United States:
White American - 223,553,265 - 72.4 %
African Americans - 38,929,319 - 12.6 %
Asian American - 14,674,252 - 4.8 %
Native Americans or Alaska Native - 2,932,248 - 0.9 %
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander - 540,013 - 0.2 %
...
Hispanic or Latino - 50,477,594 - 16.4 %
White Hispanic - 26,735,713 - 8.7 %


72% (81% if you include White Hispanic)?
This could take a while.

Anonymous BigGaySteve February 11, 2015 7:27 PM  

Sorry meant to say diversity/victim Olympians. Coming in 1st place is the trans abled black lesbian vegan who is a paraplegic in an able woman's body, followed closely by an HIV+ Asian midget furry in a panda costume.

Blogger JCclimber February 11, 2015 7:50 PM  

and if any of you think BigGaySteve is making those categories up......and you think it's funny to write out such absurdities, you really haven't been listening.

A lot of these people really, truly believe this stuff.

I get amusement out of trolling my liberal carpool rider when I need a good laugh.

Blogger Cecil Henry February 11, 2015 8:12 PM  

Diversity means whites subsidizing everyone else. Creating the environment, standards and resources that other groups benefit from. Build your own.

If races are already the same, “Diversity” does not EXIST. A school that is half black and half white is EXACTLY THE SAME as a school that is all white.

Yet all those who demand “diversity” insist that the races are the same. That they’re all equal.

“Intelligent people do not claim “equality” with dumb people.”

Pro-whites NEVER claim EQUALITY with non-whites, but anti-whites, especially those of color, always go straight to that “equality” nonsense.

“Equality” is only claimed by those who feel inferior.

Anonymous zen0 February 11, 2015 8:23 PM  

(part of the problem is some don't understand the phrase "stoned to death")

Thanks for that one, BigGaySteve. It will even be better when I correctly attribute the quote.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents February 11, 2015 8:28 PM  

Bring back busing! It worked so well in the 70's and 80's must be worth trying again.

Anonymous Susan February 11, 2015 8:31 PM  

JCclimber,

Living just south of Portland Oregon, aka S & G of the North, I believe you. After the last Mayor, who happened to be a gay pedophile, got through with Portland you would hardly know the difference.

If you want to know exactly the truth about Portland, watch the show Portlandia. It is streaming on Netflix right now, and it is dead on accurate. They capture the weirdness that is Portland.

Anonymous zen0 February 11, 2015 8:33 PM  

> African Americans - 38,929,319 - 12.6 %


American blacks are a Malthusian wet dream, highest abortion rate, highest murder rate. If only the Malthusians could convince everyone to do that, they would not have to keep flirting with WWIII.

Anonymous Dr. Brooklyn February 11, 2015 11:03 PM  

OT: Law & Order SVU ran its GG episode today. It's about what you'd expect.

Anonymous map February 11, 2015 11:28 PM  

BigGaySteve,

You can buy sodium triphosphate at the paint store? How much do you add to the laundry or dishwasher?

Anonymous Red Comet February 11, 2015 11:40 PM  

Libs always talk about various words being some kind of secret right wing racist code for blacks. In their case, "better schools" is code for no blacks and no latinos. And when they can't get "better schools" they tend to opt for private school.

This is why many libs paradoxically want homeschool banned but don't want private schools touched.

It will be a comedy worthy of the Bard when libs with no kids accuse their reproducing counterparts of NIMBY-ism and start busing low IQ thuggery straight to private schools with government paid vouchers. You'll see a bunch of Good White Liberal mothers suddenly come around on homeschooling...for no reason at all I'm sure.

Anonymous beerme February 12, 2015 12:16 AM  

He just cannot resist.

Blogger Tommy Hass February 12, 2015 12:40 AM  

"who is a paraplegic in an able woman's body"

*snicker* hahahahahahahaha

Anonymous Soga February 12, 2015 1:20 AM  

@ beerme

Amazing. And I'm not talking about yamama. It's really amazing how many... un-PC opinions are being posted on that local SF news site. The left truly eat their own.

Anonymous Discard February 12, 2015 4:46 AM  

"…many students do better when placed in integrated classrooms".

True. Skim the cream of the Blacks and Mexicans and put them in a White school, away from their cousins, and they do better. But put their cousins in a White school and it collapses. The White parents of Frisco are not running away from the cream, but from their cousins. They still believe in diversity, as long as it's limited and screened for quality.

Blogger pyrrhus February 12, 2015 7:24 AM  

Robert Putnam's studies at Harvard show that diversity leads to trouble.....never mind that!

Anonymous Difster February 12, 2015 8:14 AM  

They want diversity of genetics. Diversity of thought scares the hell out of them.

Blogger sysadmn February 12, 2015 8:16 AM  

As Ian Ayers noted, this is how economists have an advantage over other social scientists: they study what people actually do, not what they say they believe. See also, "revealed preferences".

Anonymous UnitedMinds February 12, 2015 8:31 AM  

Hey Vox, you have any thoughts on what Scott Walker is doing to the UW system in Wisconsin?
I know for the most part you have non-traditional views on education, but I feel pretty certain that you would stand in solidarity with the professors and administration at the UW system.
I don't disagree with most of your views on education, some I find.... different. But, different isn't always bad.

But this governor of WI is trying to cut over $300 MILLION from the budget of the UW system. What's more frustrating is that our supposed governor here never even completed college himself. Kind of a messed up message you'd want to send to children, that if you skip out of college you too can become governor.
I'm not telling you to make a post to stand in solidarity with the UW administration, you can stand in solidarity with them simply by not furthering the lunacy of Scott Walker.
But, I do think if you took a sincere and reflective look at what Walker is trying to do you would be more than sympathetic with the pro-education folk. Yes, the anti-education folk that Walker represents should be deserved a place at the table of discussion; but at the HEAD OF THE TABLE?

I can glean from some of your posts that you're a man of great erudition, kind of hard to be erudite when the governor of your own state is essentially saying: Education is irrelevant.

Good day

Anonymous Sevron February 12, 2015 8:53 AM  

Category error. Being anti-public school system has nothing to do with being anti-education.

Anonymous The Voice of Cheese February 12, 2015 9:03 AM  

"But this governor of WI is trying to cut over $300 MILLION from the budget of the UW system."

Well as long as he cuts it from the right departments, like say the Department of Queer Theory and Gender Studies, I don't see the problem. And maybe less money for foreign and out-of-state students; after all it is not a private enterprise, it is the University of the state of Wisconsin.

Given the bloated nature of a state university system, 300 mil sounds to me like chump change. But even if it isn't, I don't think he's saying education is irrelevant at all. He could be saying, Hey taxpayers! Now you can use that extra cash we aren't vacuuming out of your pockets to make your OWN educational choices! Education is a very broad subject; plenty of people would rather study HVAC at a technical college, why should they endlessly subsidize Cultural Marxist, racist, anti-white horseshit?

Check your own fucking privilege, libtard.

OpenID cailcorishev February 12, 2015 9:08 AM  

Being anti-public school system has nothing to do with being anti-education.

And being pro-school-funding has nothing to do with being pro-education.

Once upon a time, universities were centers of learning and the search for truth, which preserved civilization through revolution and societal collapses. The universities today are indoctrination centers of the left; fans of civilization should cheer at every dollar that's taken away from them.

Anonymous Sheila February 12, 2015 9:56 AM  

Krul -
Please double check your sources. I see this 72% thrown around all the time, and it is dead WRONG. The White, non-hispanic population of the US in 2013, according to government figures, was 63% (<a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/percentage-non-hispanic-whites-hits-all-time-63-article-1.1371772>check here, for example</a>. If you then subtract all the Iranians and Chechens and Jews who are also counted as White, the actual traditional White population of the US is perhaps 55%.

This has been done in a very short time, and IF trends and birthrates continue as they have (not a sure thing, certainly), Whites will be down to 45% in a very short time. How low that % actually has to get before most Whites believe it, or truly feel their backs are to the wall and start reacting, is a totally different question.

Anonymous Sheila February 12, 2015 9:57 AM  

Screwed up the link, dang it. Let's try again.

Anonymous Bah February 12, 2015 10:41 AM  

"But this governor of WI is trying to cut over $300 MILLION from the budget of the UW system. "

Guarantee you could cut $300m in administrative bloat and bullshit without harming actual education at all.

Blogger Dewave February 12, 2015 12:03 PM  

I would go so far as to say if you are pro-public schooling, you are anti-education.

The public schooling model is a long obsolete one based on 18th century Prussia's desire to turn illiterate peasants into suitable factory cogs.

It is completely and inherently unsuited to the modern world and economy and needs to be completely scrapped.

Blogger Marissa February 12, 2015 12:06 PM  

What's more frustrating is that our supposed governor here never even completed college himself. Kind of a messed up message you'd want to send to children, that if you skip out of college you too can become governor.

How dare these uncredentialed plebs think they can rule over us?!

White, the actual traditional White population of the US is perhaps 55%.

Even worse in Texas, non-Hispanic whites are 45% of the population. 15% is foreign-born. Here's another factoid from Wikipedia: "In 2007, for the first time since the early nineteenth century, Hispanics accounted for more than half of all births (50.2%), while non-Hispanic whites accounted for just 34%."

Blogger Dewave February 12, 2015 12:06 PM  

"Kind of a messed up message you'd want to send to children, that if you skip out of college you too can become governor."

That is only a messed up message if your salary depends on tricking unsuitable children into going to an overpriced college and racking up tens of thousands of dollars in debt for a militantly bad education.

Is that how you make your living?

Blogger Marissa February 12, 2015 12:07 PM  

15% of the total population, not 15% of the 45% white population.

Blogger borderwalker February 12, 2015 1:16 PM  

"But this governor of WI is trying to cut over $300 MILLION from the budget of the UW system."

The cost of a college education has increased an average of 7% per year for over two decades. (If you're math-impaired, that understates the case, because each year's 7% is larger than the year before...)

In any case, that is well in excess of inflation at any point in the same time bracket.

What are today's students getting for their money?

Nearly half of current university employees are in non-teaching positions. (Biggest growth: Administration.)

At the same time, the number of tenured positions has steadily decreased and the number of these overpriced classes taught by part-time adjuncts (many of whom barely make ends meet by teaching at more than one institution) has greatly increased. I've seen figures for the percentage of tenured faculty as low as 15%. And fewer of the available positions are tenure track positions.

Given the committee-politics structure of most university departments, who do you think ends up in charge? The best instructors, or the best careerist bureaucrat-politicians?

The median salary for a tenured professor is in the low six figures.

Meanwhile, private colleges and universities sit on huge endowments. I read that if Harvard stayed the same size as it is now, it could educate its entire student body FREE for the next century before its endowment ran out.

These things make the university system sound like a profit-driven racket rather than a place of higher learning. (Don't even get me started about the whole "student-athlete" nightmare.)

Do you really think there's nowhere to cut in the University System budget?

Do you really think more money would improve a system that is so clearly both broken and out of control?

Blogger Joshua Sinistar February 12, 2015 1:45 PM  

I just love how our enemies think that by outnumbering us they will win. Whites have only been playing along because the problems were far enough away that they weren't a problem. When Whites could flee Africa they didn't need to kill the bantus.
One Million angry White males with nothing left to lose could conquer the World easily over the entire non-White population of the Earth. Don't believe me? Read some history of how a few thousand White soldiers conquered all of Africa.
They will lose. Its coming. Every little skit about Whites losing power and dying is another nail in their coffin. They have dug their own graves...

Blogger Yohami February 12, 2015 1:48 PM  

"One Million angry White males with nothing left to lose could conquer the World easily"

lol.

Anonymous Discard February 12, 2015 2:13 PM  

UntiedMind: The University of California at Berkeley spends $16,000,000 on its Office of Diversity, IIRC. There's not only lots of fat in an education budget, there's lots of cancer as well.

Anonymous United Mind February 12, 2015 2:21 PM  

Borderwalker:
"Nearly half of current university employees are in non-teaching positions"

Pfft... prove it.

Anonymous BigGaySteve February 12, 2015 2:26 PM  

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Its sold as cleaning powder in the paint aisle, I looked its actually tri sodium phosphate TSP that I have. I use for lawful intended purposes, No True strike Scotsman /strike Gay would warm the globe just to have nicer looking cloths despite that by not having kids I would impact the environment less if I sank 25 oil tankers, than some crack hoe that cranks out 18 kids.I usually buy it at the home depot. Its currently sold for washing walls before you paint. Make sure to check the box as a page I looked on said some states allow TSP to be put on the label when there are no phosphates in it(green box). Here are some people giving info that don't care about global warming, all hail Bathhouse Barry.
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"Well as long as he cuts it from the right departments, like say the Department of Queer Theory and Gender Studies"
There are free Gay studies lessons down by the railroad tracks and graveyards at multiple locations, download the grindr app for more details, * warning small risk of a black moslem serial killer like Mohammad Ali Brown using it to find you and kill gays in 3 states which will be totally ignored by the national media.

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Anonymous BigGaySteve February 12, 2015 2:30 PM  

"One Million angry White males with nothing left to lose could conquer the World easily"

Someone else here linked this video put it proves it. One golden dawn vs. 30 antifa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfUolJ3MVpI

Blogger Marissa February 12, 2015 2:31 PM  

Zulu (1964)

Anonymous Discard February 12, 2015 2:41 PM  

And that Office of Diversity employs 170 non-teaching people, averaging close to six figures apiece.

Anonymous Discard February 12, 2015 2:46 PM  

The fear of millions of White men with nothing left to lose is why there are still any jobs left in this country. The banksters would export every bit of manufacturing overseas, and bring in all of Mexico to harvest the crops and clean the toilets if they could.

Blogger JCclimber February 12, 2015 3:25 PM  

"Today, administrators and staffers safely outnumber full-time faculty members on campus. In 2005, colleges and universities employed more than 675,000 fulltime faculty members or full-time equivalents. In the same year, America’s colleges and universities employed more than 190,000 individuals classified by the federal government as “executive, administrative and managerial employees.” Another 566,405 college and university employees were classified as “other professional.” This category includes IT specialists, counselors, auditors, accountants, admissions officers, development officers, alumni relations officials, human resources staffers, editors and writers for school publications, attorneys, and a slew of others. These “other professionals” are not administrators, but they work for the administration and serve as its arms, legs, eyes, ears, and mouthpieces."

read them and weep, United.

Blogger JCclimber February 12, 2015 3:28 PM  

by the way, that information was in the top 3 google search returns. Idiot.

Anonymous Discard February 12, 2015 3:40 PM  

JCclimber: Don't forget the gardeners, janitors, plumbers, and the guys who maintain all those electric carts for the security guards. They get paid too, and many are the best paid in their lines of work. Plus benefits.

Blogger Anthony February 12, 2015 3:58 PM  

Looking at that report which says what do parents consider important when choosing a school, they've smuggled in a little trick.

How many of you would care about how diverse a school was before enrolling your kid in it? Really, you wouldn't care? Yes you would.

How many of those SF parents who listed "diversity" as important are thinking the same thing?

Anonymous Discard February 12, 2015 4:08 PM  

Anthony: So, you check the "Diversity" box and they will then boast to you about it and give you numbers? The sharper lefties always secure a place in a lifeboat before scuttling the ship.

Blogger Marissa February 12, 2015 4:17 PM  

How many of you would care about how diverse a school was before enrolling your kid in it? Really, you wouldn't care? Yes you would.

My husband and I are going to homeschool but I've taken a look at the schools near our home. The elementary school is less than 10% white and the middle and high school are less than 5% white. How terrifying to me, but even worse, how terrifying to the child.

Anonymous PA February 12, 2015 5:19 PM  

When I read things like that I really feel bad for those 10% and 5% of White kids.

Anonymous Discard February 12, 2015 7:11 PM  

PA: Sometimes those White kids are every bit as low as their Dark schoolmates, and are more comfortable than if they were in an all-White school. What kind of parent lets their kid be in that situation? Frequently, someone from the very shallow end of the White gene pool.

Anonymous Steve February 12, 2015 9:00 PM  

"Recent studies from Stanford and the University of California, Berkeley, show that many students do much better on tests when placed in integrated classrooms..."

Which students,and how many,exactly?

"...and that all kids are much less likely to grow up with racial stereotypes and prejudices."

Tell that to the blacks I went to school with. Every black histree mumf I got beat up by a gang of them who seemed to have the impression that every White person owned about 50 slaves as recently as yesterday and had them picking cotton in his backyard while he cracked a bullwhip over them sadistically and was either a skinhead neo-Nazi or a Klan member. In fact, the current President often acts as though he also has this impression of White people. He also actually used the words, "My grandmother was a typical White person",despite being about as integrated as it's possible to get,living in a half-White household and going to the same libtard schools the people who wrote this diversity pablum did.

Far be it from me to suggest that you're full of crap about kids in integrated schools being less likely to have racial prejudices and that your teaching skills are non-existent,but you're the ones who keep saying that there's no difference in average intelligence between blacks and Whites.

Anonymous Steve February 12, 2015 9:04 PM  

"Sometimes those White kids are every bit as low as their Dark schoolmates, and are more comfortable than if they were in an all-White school."

I'll give you the fact that some Whites are situated behaviorally and intellectually in the same general zone as the majority of blacks,but they are distinctly UNcomfortable going to those majority-minority schools and they shouldn't have to.

That's what military academy and trade schools are for.

Anonymous Steve February 12, 2015 10:21 PM  

"Diversity means whites subsidizing everyone else. Creating the environment, standards and resources that other groups benefit from. Build your own."

Close. Diversity means Whites subsidize their own ethnic cleansing.Whites not only create the environment and provide the resources,but they are removed from their own environment,and their personal resources are snatched away under,the threat of Civil War 2,and given to the other races.

When they called up the national guard in Ferguson to protect the town from violent negroes looting in honor of a dead negro thief who tried to shoot a cop with his own gun for telling him to stop walking in the middle of the road, the president told them to stand down.Nobody told them to stand down when Whites were shoved into the middle of all this vibrancy at the end of a bayonet.

'Diversity" is the name of the concentration camp that White people labor inside of.

Blogger Akulkis February 13, 2015 12:00 AM  

"What's always struck me funny about diversity, or even "Diversity" is that no one wants it -- not whites, not blacks, not hispanics or latinos or asians or even filipinos."

But the Jews do, so that trumps everyone else, apparently.

Anonymous Discard February 13, 2015 12:19 AM  

Akulkis: These other folks may not want to live with Whites, but they sure like the infrastructure we built, as well as our law-abidingness that allows them to insist that we follow rules that they don't have to.

Blogger Akulkis February 13, 2015 1:04 AM  

All too true.

But even then, fully built, they don't want to maintain it.

Detroit is Example #1. It sickens me to see how under black "leadership", some of the most upscale neighborhoods in the country are now literally in ruins -- that which hasn't been turned into crack houses and literally burned to the foundations years ago already.

Anonymous 0007 February 13, 2015 12:37 PM  

Anthony - the board c=gave a survey to everyone choosing. It had 15 items with importance from 1-5. "Diversity came in 10th out of 15.

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