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Sunday, March 29, 2015

Brad Torgersen breaks the narrative

As you might expect, Brad Torgersen's response to the Toad of Tor and the carnival of the grotesque on display at Making Light is considerably more polite and measured than mine. But it is equally dismissive in substance:
We’re about a week out from the release of the final ballot results, for the 2015 Hugo awards. These results will determine which picks are available for your choosing when it comes time for you to cast your ballot. Best Novel, Best Short Story, etc. Already, the critics of Sad Puppies 3 have been laying the groundwork for de-legitimizing SP3. To include statements which completely misunderstand the point of Sad Puppies. Some of it is innocent. Not everybody’s had time to do a deep-dig on the history of Sad Puppies, nor to be able to discern that each iteration of the project has tended to assume its own personality. What they’re hearing about SP3 is probably hear-say from friends, and much of that is at least one to two years out-of-date. And even then, many of the “facts” put forth are demonstrably wrong.

But other commentary is not so innocent. There are people who find the very existence of Sad Puppies 3 to be an affront to their personhoods. A sinister outside force come to trouble their precious genre and its establishment. For the people deliberately misconstruing the purpose and thrust of Sad Puppies 3, it’s all about getting out in front and shaping a narrative. They’re smart. They know that truth can be overwhelmed with lies if you just spin your narrative adroitly, and with enough volume.

Thus the charges, in no particular order.

● SP3 is a trojan horse effort conducted by and for the benefit of authors who cannot earn a Hugo award the honest way.

● SP3 is just ballot-stuffing, which ought to be disallowed according to precedent and the rules of ballot-counting established through WSFS.

● SP3 is artificially trying to warp the Hugos out of true; an outside effort conducted by and involving people who are not real fans.

● The SP3 slate works are substandard based on (insert garbledy-garble talk about taste here.)

● The SP3 slate is just a bunch of right-wingers who should go set up their own awards, and leave the Hugos alone.

● SP3 is not legit because its participants were drafted for the effort, and are not willing participants.

● SP3 is not legit because Larry Correia is a terrible human being who is hated by all real fans.

● SP3 is not legit because Vox Day is also running Rabid Puppies and everybody knows Vox Day is also a terrible human being who is hated by all real fans.

● SP3 is a trojan horse for GamerGaters, and all real fans hate and loathe GamerGaters.

● SP3 is just a bunch of straight white guys who are terrified of women, gays, trans, and folks with brown skin.

● SP3 would never happen in the first place if (resurrected conservative editor of the past) could lecture them about their wrongdoing.

● SP3 is a fringe minority faction that does not represent the “main body” of real fans.

● SP3’s slate selections are not the “natural” selections of real fans.

There’s more, but I think you get the gist of it.

Much of this is simply the “in” crowd reacting badly to watching the “out” crowd take a seat at the lunch table. As I’ve mentioned before in this space, according to the dyed-in-the-wool denizens of WSFS and Worldcon, a “real fan” is defined as someone who has been attending Worldcon (and other cons) for a long time, has been properly inculcated into the specific culture of Worldcon and con-going fandom, is someone who volunteers time and effort to cons, generally makes Worldcon (and con-going) a “family” affair, etc. So if you don’t go to Worldcon and you’ve not been part of that culture for a number of years, you don’t qualify as a “real fan” in their definition. And they resent the hell out of anyone who is not a “real fan” showing up to vote on the “real fan” award.
Imagine that, an SJW trying to deceitfully shape the narrative in her favor. Keep in mind that Brad is addressing those who are still running around saying demonstrably untrue things like "Vox Day is the originator of Sad Puppies" and "Spacebunny does not exist". These SJWs are not so much insane as willfully delusional. I have no doubt that I could show up at Sasquan with Spacebunny and some of them would claim that I somehow managed to find and hire an escort who happens to look just like the model whose pictures I've been using to make it look as if I am married to a slender and attractive woman. Because #GamerGate. And also, raciss.

Of course, they know better, but they're perfectly willing to lie for rhetorical effect. Which raises the question: once you know that, why would you believe a single word that comes out of their mouths? The good thing is that it is easy to destroy their narrative. Because it is false, all that is necessary to do so is to relentlessly tell the truth.

Since 1986, Tor Books has 84 Hugo and Nebula Best Novel nominations. In 2014, Tor.com had 50 percent of the short story nominations, 40 percent of the novella nominations, and 20 percent of the novelette nominations. Tor has also won the Locus Award for Best Publisher for 26 straight years, beginning in 1988.

Keep that in mind when you read the Toad of Tor's claims about people being afraid of losing their privilege.

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13 Comments:

Anonymous JB March 29, 2015 5:18 AM  

One should can never underestimate how brazenly SJWs lie - one of the terms being thrown around there "ballot stuffing", has nothing to do with any of the puppies activity over the last few years, yet it's being used by those liars all the time. I really hope they're going to get "punched twice as hard" next week...



Anonymous PhillipGeorge(c)2015 March 29, 2015 6:11 AM  

An award system for the already most successful is the ultimate in confirmation bias.. I want to be able to say "damn, that's good" even if I'm the only person on the planet to recognize it. "damn, that's good" as in I wish I'd written that/ thought of that first.
When I finished Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy, the trilogy of four, I more or less said, I don't want to read another fiction story for the rest of my life. So far it's sort of working - much of what "we" call news is fiction masquerading as fact. While the authors are often anonymous, some of the actors may die prematurely, and the rewards are usually back stage; I've come to believe the struggle for reality is the sufficient reward, is the award. A one man award system - perhaps a reader needed to hear that.
You may want your favourites rewarded - there's a sense of justice to it. I merely suggest there are bigger prizes, and nearer than expected

Blogger IM2L844 March 29, 2015 9:40 AM  

Because it is false, all that is necessary to do so is to relentlessly [spread] the truth.

There. Fixed it for ya, proactively.

Blogger James Dixon March 29, 2015 10:54 AM  

One wonders just how long Brad's good nature will hold out against these relentless attacks before he starts naming names and using equivalent terms.

Blogger Vox March 29, 2015 11:14 AM  

He's a Mormon. He can take it with a smile indefinitely. Say what you like about them, but one thing you cannot deny is that they are psychologically tough.

Anonymous Giuseppe March 29, 2015 11:19 AM  

Keep that in mind when you read the Toad of Tor's claims about people being afraid of losing their privilege.

Precisely. It is this spearing of the lizard with a laser-javelin of truth that is so delicious. And it NEVER gets old. Thanks Vox, for an uplifting read about a Homeric-like thrust into the belly of the Chuthulian.

Blogger James Dixon March 29, 2015 11:19 AM  

> He's a Mormon. He can take it with a smile indefinitely.

I'll acknowledge your greater experience in the field and take your word for it. I know I couldn't do it, as I have way too much of a temper to put up with this kind of maliciousness.

Anonymous Nathan March 29, 2015 11:26 AM  

What I find interesting this year, as the Twitterati warm up for their next tempest, is that you now see people outside the campaign and the permanently offended commenting on the affair. And while it's pretty much "A Plague on Both Your Houses," you see the same dissonance. You have well known advocates of indie publishing telling people to stop with the high school crap or else they'll find no more jobs in the field, based on the history of previous tempests. Yet indie ensures that, yes, the writers on both sides can still have careers. You can't say to people "publish what you wish, the gatekeepers are gone" and turn around and tell people "Shut up, or the gatekeepers will take away your jobs. It's almost enough to make me wonder if there's another ox getting gored besides the Toad here.

Interesting times in SF, to be sure.

Anonymous Murgy nonfubwaba March 29, 2015 11:45 AM  

Cat has been searching for sources,seeking evidence to disqualify Anyone not following the dialectic. Be on watch.

Blogger maniacprovost March 29, 2015 3:58 PM  

Vox, if you attend Sasquan, I will personally show up and follow you around with a boom box playing the Imperial Death March.

Blogger Markku March 29, 2015 4:57 PM  

Gatekeepers? I've been informed by Joe Author that I AM the gatekeeper. So excuse me if I fail to quake in my boots.

Anonymous Flannel Avenger March 29, 2015 10:35 PM  

Markku is the Gatekeeper? We've got to get him together with the Keymaster....

Blogger szook March 30, 2015 9:49 AM  

I have no doubt that I could show up at Sasquan with "Spacebunny and some of them would claim that I somehow managed to find and hire an escort who happens to look just like the model whose pictures I've been using to make it look as if I am married to a slender and attractive woman. Because #GamerGate. And also, raciss."

Ok, fair point, so go hire a black lady to act as your escort and stand in for SB for the occasion. You get to go the con, you also get to defeat the racsis charge, and SB can stay home and do whatvever her heart desires. Win, Win Win, all around.....

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