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Saturday, March 14, 2015

Don't fight them over there

Fight them over here:
The accumulating evidence from high-quality public-opinion research is hard to ignore. A Quinnipiac University survey released March 4 found that terrorism now trails only the economy as a top public priority: 67% of the American people regard Islamic State, also known as ISIS or ISIL, as a “major threat” to U.S. security. The public is not satisfied with the Obama administration’s response to this threat. Only 39% approve of the president’s handling of terrorism (down from 52% a year ago), while 54% disapprove. When it comes to ISIS, the public’s view is even more negative, with only 35% approving.

These sentiments translate into support for much more assertive policies. The Quinnipiac survey found that by a stunning 62% to 30%, the American people now support sending U.S. ground forces to fight ISIS in Iraq and Syria. Those in favor include majorities of Democrats and independents as well as Republicans, women as well as men, and young adults as well as seniors. This result underscores a late-February CBS poll, which found 57% of Americans favoring the use of ground forces, up 18 percentage points since last September.
It is astonishing that the American public want to send ground forces to Iraq and Syria when there are millions of Muslims laying the groundwork for the Caliphate in the West. This is why the West is presently losing the Third Great War of Islamic Expansion.

Any time your grand strategy is based on an idea as intrinsically idiotic as the notion that the magic of geographical translocation will somehow transform invading enemies into clones of yourself, you deserve to lose.

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Blogger dw March 14, 2015 1:28 PM  

If the troops really wanted to do some good theyd turn their guns on every politician and banking executive in the West. Muslims we can handle just fine, its this State that is the greatest danger.

Anonymous jack March 14, 2015 1:40 PM  

When the President of the US is obviously a closet muslim and is actively doing his and their best to destroy out country we, just as obviously, have the most egregious danger to out democracy and way of life in the history of the USA. Its bad enough you have to fight hordes of illegals that will aid and abet our economic destruction, add to that the other hordes of islamics that want nothing more than to behead the lot of us.
This is going to be a tough fight. Far too few of our 'elected'. 'leaders' are willing to actually lead us into some semblance of victory over these dangers.
I now seriously think too many of the republicans are either bought off or have so many 'special' files that they are being threatened with that there is no hope there. Forget the democrat party; they were lost sometime in the 1930's or before.
We may not win this one....

Blogger Noah B March 14, 2015 1:48 PM  

I don't see how we can defend ourselves until there is something resembling political unity. The current situation of the West is reminiscent of France in 1939-1940.

Anonymous zen0 the Senile Seer March 14, 2015 1:57 PM  

> The Quinnipiac survey found that by a stunning 62% to 30%, the American people now support sending U.S. ground forces to fight ISIS in Iraq and Syria.

I told Josh this would happen.
He said Americans did not have the stomach for more boots on the ground in the Mideast.
Let's see what happens after the election, I said.

The only thing I can't remember is WHICH election.

OpenID simplytimothy March 14, 2015 1:58 PM  

This is going to be a tough fight. Far too few of our 'elected'. 'leaders' are willing to actually lead us into some semblance of victory over these dangers.

The author of Victoria goes to some pains to disabuse the reader that national politcs is the solution; As I read the novella, I am taking that lesson to heart as the author teaches what approaches are available.

The prime directive in this fight is the moral level of war. Among the American people, it is a fruit ready for picking and directing.

What it lacks is an object to act upon such that "The Maine Idea" is crystalized in the heart of the American people.



Blogger ScuzzaMan March 14, 2015 2:04 PM  

You have to love politics, though.

"more assertive policies" being Murricah-speak for bombing more people who never did us any harm ... but it'll make us feel potent.

Anonymous 11B March 14, 2015 2:16 PM  

67% of the American people regard Islamic State, also known as ISIS or ISIL, as a “major threat” to U.S. security.

The Quinnipiac survey found that by a stunning 62% to 30%, the American people now support sending U.S. ground forces to fight ISIS in Iraq and Syria.

I wonder how these numbers would change if the media informed the public that the strongest nation in the region, one which borders Syria, and possibly has the 2nd strongest air force in the world, and maybe even the best army man-for-man, feels the threat from ISIS is so low, that they not only do not attack ISIS, but have actually attacked ISIS's opponents.

Anonymous Heh March 14, 2015 2:17 PM  

We are just playing on the higher difficulty setting.

"Don't invade the world, don't invite the world" is so trivially easy that it's boring.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera March 14, 2015 2:26 PM  

Yeah, but if we don't send our young people to fight over there, they won't have jobs over here. Problematic!

Blogger Corvinus March 14, 2015 2:37 PM  

I wonder how these numbers would change if the media informed the public that the strongest nation in the region, one which borders Syria, and possibly has the 2nd strongest air force in the world, and maybe even the best army man-for-man, feels the threat from ISIS is so low, that they not only do not attack ISIS, but have actually attacked ISIS's opponents.

That's because the Turks are Muslims. Duh.

And because Turks and Kurds haven't been on the best of terms.

Anonymous A Visitor March 14, 2015 2:39 PM  

It's not astonishing that the American public want to send ground forces into Iraq and Syria while ignoring the threat at home. 1) We're such a large country geographically that it gives the perception of distance and not imminent danger to problems that may be only a state away. 2) The thought process is we can't deport all these Muslims living here because some are not bad people or they seem nice, this is America nation of immigrants crap, etc. 3) I don't want to believe there may be a threat thinking or 4) This is boring, it's not affecting me, I wonder what's on Dancing with the Stars tonight.

Anonymous 11B March 14, 2015 2:49 PM  

That's because the Turks are Muslims. Duh.

And because Turks and Kurds haven't been on the best of terms.


Read my post. I wrote a nation which possibly has the 2nd strongest air force in the world, and maybe even the best army man-for-man. That most certainly doesn't describe the Turks.

OpenID simplytimothy March 14, 2015 3:01 PM  

poll here->http://www.cbsnews.com/news/do-americans-want-to-send-ground-troops-to-fight-isis/

Blogger LP 999/Eliza March 14, 2015 3:19 PM  

Post American times are fitting for what policies we've been signed onto, bail out the banks, open borders, all this fear over a caliphate (obvious sleeper cells of a false flag or real thing), oh well, so swell judged America.

Anonymous Curtis March 14, 2015 3:20 PM  

Yeah, sure. We'll just waltz on into Syria and everyone who is not the CIA flavor of the day will welcome us with open arms.

Iraq? But, they got friendly with Iran!!! (We'll have to punish them for that).

Oh yoo-hoo! Over here. What about us? You know, Libya?

When are we going to invade Saudi Arabia for chopping off heads?

Anyhow. Create a problem. Get the public to react. Wallah! Solution! But, but, but, we have to do something! They're killing Christians and Muslims and OMG cutting off heads! And clitorises too!

And just think, it all started with a message from God.

We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. - God

Anonymous Tallen March 14, 2015 3:26 PM  

Things I have observed about verbiage: most references I see use "ISIS," probably because it's simple to say. When I was overseas we were instructed to use the acronym ISIL per the administration's request. The more cynical of us thought that was because Obama believes the Islamic State's territory includes Israel (part of the Levant) too, not just Iraq and Syria and wanted that language subversively included in all briefings. I have pointedly taken to calling them "the Islamic State," because simply calling them ISIL or ISIS glosses over the "Islam" part. A small distinction perhaps, but I think it's important in the culture wars to keep our foes clearly defined.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey March 14, 2015 3:33 PM  

I agree with you, Vox, but any hint of a notion that we're going to have to fight another civil war is liable to drive the conservatives and Christians insane with denial.

The Left, I suspect, knows perfectly well what is coming, and is in fact working to bring it about.

Anonymous BigGaySteve March 14, 2015 3:36 PM  

"We can survive terrorism but we can's survive 3 world migration." Its hard to believe that my gay tax dollars are importing savage 3rd world moslems, with taxpayer paid classes on how to use toilets, while there are homeless veterans out there & veterans dying from lack of care related to the VA 2 list scandal.

Doctors without borders pulled out of Somalia after the savage moslems killed over 200 of their lower echelon workers, but instead of the actual minority Somali Christians(who might actually appreciate it enough to not behead gays/soldiers/grandmothers instead of considering it to be jizya) are left in. The moslems would get upset if a non moslem woman who was gang raped got triaged before a moslem with scratches on his face. The US has taken in so many Somali moslems that it could have removed all the Christian minority from Somalia so moslems could be peaceful their alone.

Anonymous Curtis March 14, 2015 3:56 PM  

But, but, but...

CIA Director John Brennan has said that the United States does not want to see the collapse of President Al-Assad's government in Syria, which he warned may help Islamist militants seize power.

Meanwhile...

Psaki pointed out that without Al-Assad's resignation, it would be impossible "to fully stabilize" Syria.

Obviously, the one hand doesn't know what the other hand is doing. Wink. Wink-wink.

Americans just can not come to terms that they are daily being baffled with bullshit.

They're chopping off heads!

http://tinyurl.com/pnpwgo5

When they get to 50,000,000 I'll be impressed. - God

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus March 14, 2015 4:24 PM  

Vatican to UN: Authorize military force to stop ISIS genocide.

Pope tells Europe to “open doors” to illegal immigrants.

Blogger dw March 14, 2015 4:44 PM  

Americans wanting to fight ISIS is different than OEF/OIF in that Americans haven't been deceived into thinking Syria or Iran is the enemy. ISIS is targeting our nominal allies in the region, as well as slaughtering Christians. It's a far cry to say it's like the last war we fought.

Anonymous Giuseppe March 14, 2015 4:52 PM  

The intelligence of the eternal psychopath is quite frightening.

Whichever way you slice it it seems he makes a gain. Do nothing and secure your own borders is indeed the probably most correct response but it leaves me with a foul taste in the mouth. And doesn't help the local Christians and others being slaughtered.

Send a serious force (would not need to be huge. I maintain I could do the job if allowed to pick men and equipment and had a billion dollars to do it.) to wipe ISIS off the face of the Earth. That would satisfy my instincts but would play in the hands of the globalists and possibly start the massive land-war they need to reset the economy button. Plus of course, countless "collateral damages" are likely anyway because the West stopped doing surgical strike forces with boots on the ground sometime in the 1940s.

It is hard to strategise against him. Maybe faith should be enough, but living on this planet it's hard to fathom how that will stop a scimitar or a bullet or the evil that men do.

Blogger Rantor March 14, 2015 4:53 PM  

The administration is actively recruiting Muslim immigrants and wants to more than triple the number coming in every year. They are looking to increase the US from 2% Muslim to 6% in the next 7 years or so. That means increasingly significant concentrations (over 10%) wherever they congregate. IT will mean increasing influence in local and state government and another rep or two in the House.

It will aslo mean more leftist catering to the new minority. While the Chamber of Commerce Republicans will try to get more and more of them into low paying jobs.



Blogger Rantor March 14, 2015 5:01 PM  

Has the Chamber of Commerce always been joined at the hip with the left as our enemy on immigration?

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus March 14, 2015 5:09 PM  

It's a huge transformation that must take place.

Because without that Judeo-Christian leadership, and without that transformation, Europe, America and all other white nations will not survive.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus March 14, 2015 5:16 PM  

The Caliphate must go; it would take about a year, and cost a lot less than the previous war. We might even make a profit.

Sure thing, Jerry.

The invasion of Iraq was supposed to make a profit too. That brilliant plan only failed because the government of the United States was run by anti-white Israel-worshipers of the same type that still run America now.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus March 14, 2015 5:26 PM  

Rantor: "Has the Chamber of Commerce always been joined at the hip with the left as our enemy on immigration?"

I don't know. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce official website lists eighteen (18) issues on which the Chamber has an interest. Immigration isn't any of them. Officially, the Chamber seems unaware of any such issue. Even while it fights like fury for open borders.

Western (meaning white) countries are now run by cryptic, furtive, evasive and illegitimate power -- big money power that won't say who it really is or what it really stands for, but that spreads money around to negate democracy and bring about anti-white outcomes by stealth.

Blogger Corvinus March 14, 2015 5:53 PM  

Read my post. I wrote a nation which possibly has the 2nd strongest air force in the world, and maybe even the best army man-for-man. That most certainly doesn't describe the Turks.

Oh, okay, that country. But it doesn't border ISIS at all, whereas Turkey is much closer...

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey March 14, 2015 5:59 PM  

A civilization unwilling to embrace, when required, barbarism in its defense is doomed to fall to those who will.

Anonymous 11B March 14, 2015 6:04 PM  

Oh, okay, that country. But it doesn't border ISIS at all, whereas Turkey is much closer...

They do border Syria. In fact they even occupy part of Syria, aka the Golan Heights. And their military is top notch. They could make mincemeat out of ISIS if they felt threatened by them. If they don't feel threatened, then why should we?

Blogger mmaier2112 March 14, 2015 6:09 PM  

"67% of the American people regard Islamic State, also known as ISIS or ISIL, as a “major threat” to U.S. security."

Mexicans.
Islamists here.
Wall Street
CIA
FED
the police state (FBI, locals, DEA, DHS, etc)
Idiots that blindly support foreign intervention.

These are all things scarier of than ISIS.

Is this because I never watch the TV news?

Blogger Cataline Sergius March 14, 2015 6:12 PM  

The thing to remember about the Caliphate is that it is not a genuine 4th Gen Warfare polity. It is in fact a 1st Gen Warfare kingdom or at least it's trying very hard to be one.

In order to maintain legitimacy, The Caliph must (A) hold territory and (B) he has to expand that territory.

He has one last source of easy pickings available, Lebanon. No army to speak of whatsoever. And a shit ton of non-Muslims to enslave.

45% Christian (technically eligible for dhimmi status but they haven't been paying a lot of attention to that).

6% Druze (fit only for enslavement).

27% Shia (apostate and therefore have to be killed outright but they will divide the women among the sharia.)

However, this is all a side show. The real action needs to happen at Dabiq. I mean really needs to happen there. At it's core the Caliphate is a fairly serious apocalyptic death cult.

I wrote about that at my place.

Long story short, the entire ISIS movement is hugely vulnerable to cognitive dysfunction. It will likely unwind if the Caliphate suffers a conventional warfare defeat on the plains of Dabiq. As I said, it is not a 4th gen warfare movement.

And believe it or not it is desperate for a conventional land battle with the United States. Enough so that they will eventually launch terrorist operations in the U.S.

The good news is, crushing the caliphate is easy.

The bad news is, what hell do we do about an occupation this time? Particularity with President Hippy Von Dronestrike as commander in chief.

Blogger deadman March 14, 2015 6:24 PM  

The concern used to be that the barbarians were at the gates.

Now, not only are the barbarians well past the gates; in many cases, the barbarians are manning the gates.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus March 14, 2015 6:25 PM  

mmaier2112: "Is this because I never watch the TV news?"

Yes.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus March 14, 2015 6:27 PM  

deadman: "Now, not only are the barbarians well past the gates; in many cases, the barbarians are manning the gates."

And ushering more barbarians in.

And if you want to say no to that, everybody from the President to the Pope is against you.

Anonymous kfg March 14, 2015 6:35 PM  

" . . .everybody from the President to the Pope is against you."

The story of my life. I'm used to it by now.

Anonymous PhillipGeorge(c)2015 March 14, 2015 7:00 PM  

Evolution, and Man's ingenuity and goodness, has taught him that everything is continually improving. Physics/ Thermodynamic Entropy has nothing to do with biology. And in politics all you have to be is on the right side of history.

Voila - every political speech you've ever heard.

[Just add to the above; all religions are the same and Islam is the religion of peace and you have created a perfect storm - while economically outsourcing umbrella production]

The net is still here. And it won't be Russia starting WWIII, just replying to it.

OpenID ymarsakar March 14, 2015 7:31 PM  

While there were other methods in the past, currently the grand strategic option defaults to sending US troops overseas so that they can build back their combat effectiveness, so that they will return and put the sword to Democrat fiefdoms like Detroit. Who is going to lead them... well that can't really be decided in advance.

Originally the next stage of the Iraq conflict was to use the same counter insurgency tactics that worked well against Jihadiists and AQ, and bringing back home where it was more useful in Detroit and Los Angeles. That got sabotaged by Leftists, as usual, same with Vietnam.

I'm not saying the leaders were intelligent or clever enough to have these backup strategic transitions, but they are the natural "next move" in the chess archetype. Regimes in the past have long understood the popularity of combat glories overseas becoming a domestic problem later on when the armies return under the banner of the Glorious leader.

Blogger frigger611 March 14, 2015 7:31 PM  

A civilization unwilling to embrace, when required, barbarism in its defense is doomed to fall to those who will. - LB Fogey

Yes, this sounds like Magruder's Law of warfare stated another way. And nicely done, at that.

Anonymous zen0 March 14, 2015 7:37 PM  

@ Titus Didius Tacitus

Vatican to UN: Authorize military force to stop ISIS genocide.

Pope tells Europe to “open doors” to illegal immigrants.


To be fair, a persistant cognitive dissonance can be used to achieve altered states of consciousness.

Blogger Rantor March 14, 2015 8:17 PM  

@Titus Didius Tacitus,

It may not be on their web site, but just google Chamber of Commerce support for immigration... I got 33,400,000 hits on that. Some of the hits are on their own site.

Anonymous paradox March 14, 2015 8:45 PM  

When the President of the US is obviously a closet muslim...

Well... Neocon clownery didn't take long.

Blogger frigger611 March 14, 2015 8:50 PM  

Yeah, I agree. What closet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw

Anonymous Billy March 14, 2015 8:58 PM  

We live in awkward times…too late to vote and too early to start shooting.

Anonymous BigGaySteve March 14, 2015 9:14 PM  

Hey Nate I made the Barbie doll of handguns argument here http://weaselzippers.us/217161-man-in-queens-ny-slashed-across-throat-by-stranger-who-yelled-im-going-to-kill-you-white-boy/#disqus_thread

Anonymous zen0 the Instigator March 14, 2015 9:33 PM  

@ Billy

We live in awkward times…too late to vote and too early to start shooting.

People who want you daid don't think its too early. Waiting for the "whites" of their eyes, are you?

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus March 14, 2015 9:40 PM  

zen0: "To be fair, a persistant cognitive dissonance can be used to achieve altered states of consciousness."

To be fair, maybe so.

But that doesn't do us any good.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus March 14, 2015 9:42 PM  

Rantor: "It may not be on their web site, but just google Chamber of Commerce support for immigration... I got 33,400,000 hits on that. Some of the hits are on their own site."

Good point.

Anonymous zen0 March 14, 2015 9:46 PM  

paradox March 14, 2015 8:45 PM
When the President of the US is obviously a closet muslim...

Well... Neocon clownery didn't take long.

Are you skeptical, Paradox?

Just for the record, for further reference Do you really think that is a NeoCon position? Brezinski is an Obama mentor, and he is NeoDem..

The NeoCons have a lot of people who's family descended from those who suffered pogroms in Russia. They have a hard-on for Russia. Muslims are just a means to an end. And they don't give a f*ck about America except as a vehicle for their hate fest.

The American Serfs are simply collateral damage. Easily replaced with migration.

Do you think he is not Muslim bcz druggie-homo? Don't be deceived.

Anonymous zen0 March 14, 2015 9:52 PM  

@ Titus Didius Tacitus

But that doesn't do us any good.

It does help us to recognize when we are dealing with addicts. It explains a lot.

Anonymous Kaz March 14, 2015 9:58 PM  

zen0 March 14, 2015 7:37 PM

To be fair, a persistant cognitive dissonance can be used to achieve altered states of consciousness.

To be fair, I prefer a good Kentucky bourbon paired with Moroccan Hashish.

Kaz

Anonymous zen0 March 14, 2015 10:05 PM  

> Moroccan Hashish.

Link?

Blogger LP 999/Eliza March 14, 2015 11:14 PM  

Oh!! I miss the 1990's, back in 1995 there were clove cigs from India, if you smoked two or at least my experience was smoking 2 gave me hallucinations, amazing times. Back then they didn't card or care. These days I haven't seen clove sigs in years. I smoked 2 per day for 6 months until my mother told me it will age me.

Biggaysteve, bro, our building did bring in many homeless vets and found me on the streets. the vets are literally the salt of the earth, the ptsd got to them, their pensions were cut, the VA wont help them, its awful. The same for me, no help. But I dont want their help, I want to be left alone and be given the freedom to correct my own problems minus any interventions.

I am so fed up with ISIS, ISEL micjizzle, yet they get the bene'ys or benefits/help from the system, americants get nothing. Who, how can America reason with this group?

Putin had it right, fuck em' all, crazy, they can keep their middle east. The Jewish nation of 1/12 of the tribe will never have a future on this "land" until they turn back to God. And its not happening...

America was founded upon small biz, freedom, liberty, farming, creating our own lives not importing junk, whoring around, sodomy and feminism.

This judged nation is already (Vox's term, I think I recall) dyscivic. America gave herself her own problems and Americans have zero time for some moron religion and burqas.

Atreyu was right, "its can't happen here" already did, "...our world, ...our land will end over whose God is bigger than your God." It is a spiritual battle if there ever was one.

And now as Disturbed would harken in Warrior, "...decide now."

Anonymous DMM March 14, 2015 11:27 PM  

I'd support sending our troops in to the area under a single condition, that they residents convert to Christianity. Failing that, forced conversion would be fine with me. Yes, I know that you cannot be forced to accept Christ, but their children and grandchildren will grow up with it and have true faith. And don't tell me forced conversion doesn't work, because its how Islam spread.

Otherwise, the best thing that we can do is to remove them from our shores. And the sooner, the better.

Anonymous Atombum March 14, 2015 11:46 PM  

Hitler responding to russian p.o.w.s captured as well as Allied airmen shot down over Berlin during the last days of the war: ``Shoot,Shoot,Shoot them All!`` Understandable, though, too little, too late.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza March 15, 2015 1:13 AM  

Forget it or hopefully they'd convert minus America's presence. Continued western occupations are what offends these people. If they did convert where will they live Clounbus, Cleveland, Dallas, LA, NYC, Minn? Would they come to America as new found Christians in this whore church of a country?

I dont know, I hope they'd take all their zeal for Allah and turn it to Christ but that is not how these possible false flag prison religions go.

America is judged nation

Anonymous Bohm March 15, 2015 4:42 AM  

He has one last source of easy pickings available, Lebanon. No army to speak of whatsoever.

Lebanon is not ‘easy pickings’ for ISIS. The Lebanese army is the second largest per capita recipient of US military aid, after Israel. That doesn’t mean it’s effective, of course. ISIS made incursions into Lebanon last summer but soon withdrew.

There is also Hezbollah, the natural enemy of ISIS and far more than a pushover, as the IDF has discovered on more than one occasion.

ISIS would have to get past Assad’s army to ‘enslave’ Lebanon. Since ISIS has reached a virtual rapprochement on the ground with Assad, this is more than unlikely. That said, the Syrian civil war is destabilising Lebanon and may yet result in another sectarian war there soon, with ISIS sprouting a franchise there as it has done in Derna in Libya. However, the situation in Lebanon is quite different to Libya, so who knows…

In the realms of fantasy, I often wonder about a match-up of the IDF and ISIS.

Blogger Eric Mueller March 15, 2015 7:26 AM  

That's one of the reasons we need a draft. Most people are OK with sending somebody else overseas to fight a war. They might not be as cavalier about it if they or their families could be involved.

Blogger Cataline Sergius March 15, 2015 8:36 AM  

@Bohm

The Lebanese army is the second largest per capita recipient of US military aid, after Israel. That doesn’t mean it’s effective, of course.

Unless things have changed drastically in the last three years, then the Lebanese army is in fact ineffective. Lavishly funded yes but completely ineffective. It will at best be a source of spare parts for the Caliphate.

The Lebanese militias on the other hand, are proper 4th Gen warfare polities and effective as such.

This raises the question of how effective 4th Gen is when faced with an opponent completely unrestrained by conscience or humanity.

Anonymous clay March 15, 2015 9:31 AM  

I THINK he or she meant the Jordanin military.

Anonymous Dan in Tx March 15, 2015 10:22 AM  

First: I'm always skeptical about these polls. I believe you can make any poll come out the way you want it to simply by choosing which demographic and which area you take the poll in. I realize that simply going off who you personally talk to is not not a good measure either but I will say this; there are no shortage of 'Murica hell yeah flag wavers around here and even here, not a single person I have talked to, not a single one, thinks we should be sending any more troops to the middle east. Even the ones who once supported the fool hearty mission to Iraq are completely worn out with this whole mess and think we should mind our own business.

Second: If the results of this poll are even halfway accurate it is yet another piece of proof that MPAI.

Blogger Tommy Hass March 15, 2015 2:25 PM  

How mentally ill do you have to be to refer to legal immigrants as "invaders"?

Invaders are those who come even though you told them not to come. And no, polls showing that most would rather have no more immigration isn't enough. If it was really that clear cut, far right parties would be mopping the floor with leftoids in the elections.

If leftoids of a country combine to vote against a far right candidate and win, it means that it's not an invasion.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus March 15, 2015 5:51 PM  

Tommy Hass: "How mentally ill do you have to be to refer to legal immigrants as "invaders"? "

About as mentally ill as any Palestinians were, who took that attitude to mass Jewish immigration into Palestine. In other words, not at all.

Anonymous Discard March 15, 2015 7:56 PM  

Tommy Haas: The immigrants are invaders by virtue of the fact that it is the enemies of the people and nation and culture that brought them in, for the purpose of displacing the people, and nation and culture. That the invasion comes wrapped in a package of legality does not change the fact. It is analogous to the murder of Leonard Deadwyler, a Black man, by the LAPD back in the mid-1960s. The cop who shot him was not charged, but even racists like myself recognize that it was murder, legal or not.
For a larger scale example, consider the way the British used to send Indians around the Empire to be their loyal underlings. Legal? Yes. Invasion? Undoubtedly.

Anonymous Stilicho March 16, 2015 12:29 AM  

Tommy, you invited NATO in, so STFU about it already and accept your national dhimmitude.

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Anonymous resinjam November 07, 2015 6:24 PM  

When the President of the US is obviously a closet muslim and is actively doing his and their best to destroy out country we, just as obviously, have the most egregious danger to out democracy and way of life in the history of the USA. Its bad enough you have to fight hordes of illegals that will aid and abet our economic destruction, add to that the other hordes of islamics that want nothing more than to behead the lot of us.
This is going to be a tough fight. Far too few of our 'elected'. 'leaders' are willing to actually lead us into some semblance of victory over these dangers.
I now seriously think too many of the republicans are either bought off or have so many 'special' files that they are being threatened with that there is no hope there. Forget the democrat party; they were lost sometime in the 1930's or before.
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