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Monday, March 23, 2015

Don't go out without carrying

And if you are confronted, don't hesitate to use lethal force. Because the vibrants, particularly the younger ones, won't hesitate to kill even when it's absolutely unnecessary and they've already got what they demanded:
According to NBC Philadelphia, the three black teens were playing basketball when one of them got the bright idea to go rob someone at random. After seeing a different man out walking his dog and deciding not to rob him, they saw 51-year-old James Patrick Stuhlman.

Stuhlman apparently would usually walk with his 13-year-old daughter, but on the night of his murder he had told her to stay home because it was getting late, likely saving her life. As he walked down the dark street on March 12, the father and owner of a local landscaping company saw three teens approach him, and upon running into him they announced a robbery.

“At one point, he did plead for his life,” Captain James Clark said Thursday at a news conference, according to the New York Daily News. “He said, ‘Please don’t shoot me, please don’t shoot me,’ and they still shot him one more time.”

On Thursday, 15-year-old Brandon Smith and a 14-year-old whose name has been withheld were arrested by police and said they had decided to rob Stuhlman rather than the other man they saw because he looked more vulnerable.
At this point, every robbery by young Africans is sufficient reason to believe one's life is in imminent danger and is sufficient justification for lethal self-defense. Of course, in the mainstream media's version, the three murderers were merely "teens" and "high school freshmen".

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Anonymous The Obvious March 23, 2015 5:12 AM  

I never understand why you Americans don't do a mass cull of these off coloured sub humans.

Blogger YIH March 23, 2015 5:23 AM  

According to NBC Philadelphia, the three black teens were playing basketball.
I'm surprised they even bothered, these days ''teens'' (of any age) = African (regardless of where they happen to be).

Anonymous Apollo March 23, 2015 5:28 AM  

I was surprised to see the description of the teens as being "black" in your summary above, thats not what I would expect to see from MSNBC. I note that that word does not appear in the linked article.

Blogger Vox March 23, 2015 5:33 AM  

The summary was from a blog, since linked. The NBC Philadelphia report does not mention race, because apparently if they don't report it, no one will be able to figure out that it was vibrants vibranting again.

Anonymous FP March 23, 2015 5:38 AM  

Maybe white people in Philly could go protest during brunch in some diners in a black neighborhood.


http://twitchy.com/2015/03/22/ready-for-your-white-tears-black-brunch-protesters-annoy-diners-in-atlanta-videos-blackbrunchatl/

I'm sure the new FCC rules for the internet will make it raciss to mention race online in crime reporting.

Anonymous Apollo March 23, 2015 5:45 AM  

I was wondering if they had written "black teens" then quickly changed it before i got there. I would have been floored if that had been the case.

And its just a matter of elimination really, if the news doesn't identify the perps as white teens/youths/whatever its generally safe to conclude...

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus March 23, 2015 5:48 AM  

Vox: "The NBC Philadelphia report does not mention race, because apparently if they don't report it, no one will be able to figure out that it was vibrants vibranting again."

To be fair, a lot of relevant people won't be able to figure it out. The mentally handicapped need information sources too, and they are painfully dependent on those information sources being honest, clear and forthright. Handicapped people stand in special need of honest advice about threats that go after those who look vulnerable. So, good going, mainstream media liars. Sort of.

Anonymous FP March 23, 2015 5:50 AM  

Minnesotans fight back.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/03/revolt-black-brunch-protesters-forcibly-ejected-by-fed-up-mn-diners-and-staff/

Anonymous Saul Alinsky Jr March 23, 2015 5:51 AM  

I was shocked and horrified. These vulnerable young Persons of Color were obviously suffering from P.S.P.T.S. (Post-Slavery Permanent Trauma Syndrome) and acting out their inner pain. They should be offered counseling, not be fed into the insatiable maw of the irredeemably racist white (so-called) justice system.

Anonymous PA March 23, 2015 6:05 AM  

"" “At one point, he did plead for his life,” Captain James Clark said Thursday at a news conference, ""

Police spokesmen should start saying these things in ways that do not degrade the man's memory. "Plead" makes the reader imagine undignified blubbering, even if in fact he may have asked them that calmly.

Anonymous PA March 23, 2015 6:12 AM  

I've noticed over time that police and media do these things that shit on the murdered White's memory. For example a few years back some nigger in a parking lot walked up to the first White girl he saw and shot her in the head. The police baselessly commented that he may have been her boyfriend. Her father , as reported, was enraged with the speculation.

And then we have the WI hunters who were killed by a Hmong and the CT beer warehouse employees who were killed by a black, and media's line that they had it coming because they may have been racist.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler March 23, 2015 6:26 AM  

They are the protected class now. Hundreds of statures of MLK and Sojourner Truth and places named Rosa Parks (an actual plaza in Grand Rapids Michigan; huge 15 ft statue of Sojourner Truth in Battle Creek, MI). You'd think that the protected class invented cars, cell phones and put a man on the moon. They are such illustrious characters adding much vibrancy to our forward progress! They do so well that Zimbabwe needs to import food!

Anonymous PhillipGeorge(c)2015 March 23, 2015 6:27 AM  

A brand new Meme - perhaps it needs revision.

Those claiming victim status should have it conferred and confirmed on them

While wrath and vengeance belong to God, self defense, societal and individual, is the common law right.

One day people might wake up, justifiably angry. When the scales tip....

Anonymous St. Trayvon March 23, 2015 6:33 AM  

They are innocent black baies. You would shoot a black toddler in diapers?

Anonymous Fp March 23, 2015 6:38 AM  

"They are the protected class now."

Wheeler resurfaces. What now Spartan?

Blogger Thordaddy March 23, 2015 6:47 AM  

Nigger = zeitgeist's invisible foot soldier

I'm betting 98.78% of "white" liberationists don't even think the nigger exists.

Anonymous Fp March 23, 2015 6:50 AM  

"The police baselessly commented that he may have been her boyfriend. Her father , as reported, was enraged with the speculation."

Yep, sounds like them. Low IQ fucking pigs couldn't write an accurate report to save their life. Taking the side of the perp as usual. Leftist scum.

Blogger RC March 23, 2015 6:50 AM  

I briefly perused the comments on the blog post. I don't know how black crime can ever be reduced to the levels of the society at large given the mindlessness of the average progtard. If one cannot even honestly identify that a problem exists, cannot honestly evaluate cause and effect, cannot even consider (let alone implement) civilized solutions, the only choice is to separate to the extent possible and always be locked and loaded, especially in vibrant areas.

Blacks may have never built an advanced society, but they did successfully live in one for many decades. The policies that brought us to this point were intentional. No father and no work makes Jack a feral animal and their eyes alone betray the fact - utterly devoid of life's energy, of purpose, of meaning - basketball, food, sex, crime.

And now another white father and entrepreneur is dead and a thirteen year old girl deprived of her daddy during the age she needs him the most. Senseless; barbaric; tragic.

Anonymous Heaviside March 23, 2015 6:51 AM  

>I never understand why you Americans don't do a mass cull of these off coloured sub humans.

Me neither. This is why I'm a socialist. They should all be sent to the gulag.

Blogger Nate March 23, 2015 7:11 AM  

perhaps its time to compare the number of blacks killed in lynchings by whites... to the number of whites murdered by gangs of negroids.

Anonymous PA March 23, 2015 7:14 AM  

Nate: those numbers are compounded by the fact that most lynchings were a form of rough justice. Emmitt Till did assault a married woman. Virtually all black-on-white killings are unprovoked.

Blogger Cataline Sergius March 23, 2015 7:18 AM  

“At one point, he did plead for his life,” Captain James Clark said Thursday at a news conference, according to the New York Daily News. “He said, ‘Please don’t shoot me, please don’t shoot me,’ and they still shot him one more time.”

Important lesson here.

Submission will escalate violence into lethality.

I knew a man who used to teach at a "Boy's School." Basically a prison for boys or to be more exact a holding tank for the feral little monsters until they could become big monsters.

His off the record talks with one them were revealing. Someone who begged for his life, when he was being mugged was way more likely to be killed for the mugger's amusement, than one who fought back.

Armed resistance was the thing these little feral worried about the most. Never the police. The police would beat you and take you to jail but the armed victim would kill you.

The armed victim was the loosing lottery number for them and they all know it.

Blogger bob k. mando March 23, 2015 7:20 AM  

Fp March 23, 2015 6:50 AM
Low IQ fucking pigs couldn't write an accurate report to save their life.



the blog writer is hardly better. the title of the article is "Police Make HEARTBREAKING Find Next To White Man Gunned Down By Teens".

a man, father of a young girl lies in a pool of blood in the street. what is 'heartbreaking' about this?

"“The dog was lying next to him — appeared to be scared and in shock,” Walker said. “In his other hand he had a flashlight.”"


it seems he may as well have been walking a cat.

seriously though. a fucking animal got scared and this is the 'heartbreaking' part of the story?

Anonymous omar's running shoes March 23, 2015 7:24 AM  

Last week I spent the day doing some work where I could listen to the radio, probably 9 hours of talk both NPR and so-called conservative programs. The second or third most talked about issue of the day was a youtube video of some University of Oklahoma frat boys saying something "racist" and the hog piling on these people and anyone related to them (their entire frat house was shut down, kicking every single person out based on the alleged actions of the person in the video-guilt by association- and the trembling apologias of the establishment figures surrounding them. One whole day of it, hour after news hour because of words. I suspect if I were to listen to the same radio today there will be zero chance that this crime will be mentioned and if it is race will play no roll in how it is covered.

Everyone understands what is happening but we have all been conditioned by the ceaseless and unrelenting tutelage of our betters that we are never to speak of the Emperor's nakedness.

Blogger Josh March 23, 2015 7:28 AM  

perhaps its time to compare the number of blacks killed in lynchings by whites... to the number of whites murdered by gangs of negroids.

The 2913 UCR shows ~400 whites killed by blacks, which is ten times the historical average of ~40 lynchings of blacks.

Obviously that's just the raw numbers.

Blogger Josh March 23, 2015 7:29 AM  

most lynchings were a form of rough justice

Can you prove this?

Blogger Nate March 23, 2015 7:31 AM  

"Can you prove this?"

It is proven definitionally. A lynching is mob justice... which is a form of justice. How often they got the right guy? Who knows. I suspect they got the wrong guy some... because all forms of justice are going to get the wrong guy some.

Blogger Nate March 23, 2015 7:33 AM  

'The 2913 UCR shows ~400 whites killed by blacks, which is ten times the historical average of ~40 lynchings of blacks."

Yeah that's not a fair comparison. This is all murder vs one specific sub-set of killings. That's why I offered gang style murders where there were more than one attacker. It would make the comparison more legitimate.

Anonymous Cinco March 23, 2015 7:33 AM  

"Hands up don't shoot. Here's my money."

Blogger Nate March 23, 2015 7:34 AM  

"Nate: those numbers are compounded by the fact that most lynchings were a form of rough justice. Emmitt Till did assault a married woman. Virtually all black-on-white killings are unprovoked."

Unprovoked! why PA... don't you know this is just retribution for racis? and slavery? they built this country PA!

Blogger Josh March 23, 2015 7:35 AM  

From the 1959 Tuskegee Lynch Report:

The most for any year was 231 in 1892. From 1882 to 1901, lynchings averaged more than 150 a year.

Blogger Hazim March 23, 2015 7:37 AM  

I know that a city biker gang here in Indianapolis held a gathering at large park in the ghetto Saturday night to invite citizens to speak their minds about black violence, after that viral video of the "troubled child" beating those kids here in Indy and other local incidents.
It would make for a more interesting post if I could report on how/if the local media reported on the event, but I don't watch the news. I'll bet I could guess though.

Blogger Nate March 23, 2015 7:37 AM  

"seriously though. a fucking animal got scared and this is the 'heartbreaking' part of the story?"

I'm kinda surprised the cops didn't shoot the dog when they got to the scene...

Anonymous RPS March 23, 2015 7:40 AM  

The NBC Philadelphia report does not mention race, because apparently if they
don't report it,


Except the giant photo right below the headline, you tool

Blogger Vox March 23, 2015 7:41 AM  

seriously though. a fucking animal got scared and this is the 'heartbreaking' part of the story?

Yes, Bob, it's called "effective rhetoric". The average white moderate will care more about the poor dog being terrified than yet another white man being murdered by vibrant thuglings.

Blogger bob k. mando March 23, 2015 7:43 AM  

to complete my thought, compare the 'heartbreaking' story to Scalzi's playing the game on the easiest setting.

be a white hetero male male and you can get wantonly murdered and nobody gives a fuck.

be a useless, frightened pet? awwwww, poor puppy.

i mean, jesus, at least Ol Yeller would be lying next to you, dead.

Blogger Josh March 23, 2015 7:52 AM  

Yeah that's not a fair comparison. This is all murder vs one specific sub-set of killings. That's why I offered gang style murders where there were more than one attacker. It would make the comparison more legitimate.

7.1% of the 6018 single victim / single offender homicides were black on white.

That same percentage applied to the 1513 single victim / multiple offender homicides gives us 108.

Anonymous PA March 23, 2015 7:55 AM  

"effective rhetoric"

In this case it's probably a symptom of the infantilization of journalists. It's kind of like the old joke that kids who watch battles in old war movies are sad for the horses that get killed but not for the knights or soldiers who die.

Lawrence Auster was fine of the first to my knowledge to call out the media's rhetoric of obfuscating black interracial crime. He'd point to stock phrases such as "random" or "wrong place at the wrong time".

Anonymous p-dawg March 23, 2015 7:57 AM  

I'm pretty sure he wasn't walking a pit bull. Yes, morons who don't bother to train pit bulls have given the breed a bad reputation, but if you want your pet to be useful as well as a pet, you have to put in some work. Even if they did decide to attack the man, a pit wouldn't just sit around and whine while it happened.

Blogger Vox March 23, 2015 8:01 AM  

i mean, jesus, at least Ol Yeller would be lying next to you, dead.

Own a Ridgeback. The Africans won't even think of approaching. Better yet, own a pack. People who deliver to our house won't even get out of the truck when the dogs are outside.

Blogger Hermit March 23, 2015 8:02 AM  

If he had a gun and killed them saving his life I imagine he would now be on trial and angry negroes would be flooding the streets demanding "justice" and destroying shops.
Plus a fake witness saying that the white man said "Heil Hitler" and shot the poor black victims in the back when they were running away.

Still better on trial than dead.

Anonymous Salt March 23, 2015 8:03 AM  

According to NBC Philadelphia, the three black teens were playing basketball.

Guess the problem was, it wasn't midnight. Where's Paul Kersey when you need him?

Anonymous p-dawg March 23, 2015 8:18 AM  

@Hermit: Why? If he had shot them and left, no one would know who he is or what color he was.

Blogger Nate March 23, 2015 8:40 AM  

"Own a Ridgeback. The Africans won't even think of approaching. Better yet, own a pack"

yep. Big Dogs are scarier to them than pits. I've seen big black dudes turn into blubbering little girls at the sight of a healthy Rotty.

Another thing... the "Speak" command is the best thing you can teach your dog. Even if you have a lab that is to lovable and dumb to be a threat to anyone... if you teach the dog to bark when you say speak... it will scare the hell out of a vibrant youf

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 23, 2015 8:43 AM  

On the other hand the establishment and its media are auto delegitimizing themselves. Go ahead ask the average progtard to explicitly explain their sources of facts and moral authority.

Anonymous FP March 23, 2015 8:52 AM  

" if you teach the dog to bark when you say speak... it will scare the hell out of a vibrant youf"

Talking to pets!? You're a wizard, witch or a warlock! Eeeeevil!

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey March 23, 2015 9:17 AM  

Last night I was with friends, the conversation turned to dogs, and I mentioned this same incident [Stuhlman's dog apparently was found whimpering beside his body and sniffing him]. None of them could believe it as they hadn't heard about it on tv.

I never understand why you Americans don't do a mass cull of these off coloured sub humans.

I'm sure there are plans to that effect when the opportunity arises, which I'm sure it will. Long overdue.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey March 23, 2015 9:21 AM  

They are the protected class now. Hundreds of statures of MLK and Sojourner Truth and places named Rosa Parks...

A nice way of trolling the prog establishment--and incidentally a good way to get the party started--would be to deface and pull down these statues. It would be ridiculously easy.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey March 23, 2015 9:26 AM  

Own a Ridgeback. The Africans won't even think of approaching.

Yes, exactly. When I lived in South Africa and Namibia I met plenty of White families who had these dogs patrolling their fenced compounds. The dogs were specially trained to sniff out and confront blacks, who, understandably, were terrified of them.

They used Rhodesian Ridgebacks [who were first bred by South African Whites to hunt lion] as well as Rottweilers, Dobermans, and huge mastif-like dogs called Boerboels.

Blogger Cataline Sergius March 23, 2015 9:44 AM  

A Ridgeback is not a dog for beginners. You should learn a bit about them before buying.

The good news is they aren't popular as breed in America yet. Once a breed gets popular, avoid it.

Anonymous Salt March 23, 2015 9:47 AM  

At this point, every robbery by young Africans is sufficient reason to believe one's life is in imminent danger and is sufficient justification for lethal self-defense.

We're entering the phase of this becoming an everyday event. For the moment the white community is seemingly restricted in its response (defensive only). If the blacks will not handle (cull) their own community, god help them when the whites say "enough" and do it for them, for at that point people won't care as to any distinction between them.

Blogger Nate March 23, 2015 9:55 AM  

"We're entering the phase of this becoming an everyday event."

Dude. Its been an every day event for 40 years. This isn't new. Cities are crime ridden shit holes. Accept it.

Blogger Vox March 23, 2015 10:05 AM  

It's more about when something happens to a member of the wrong family. Right now, most African predation is upon liberals who voluntarily dwell near them and are more than happy to preemptively forgive the crimes against their deceased loved ones.

It happens to a member of the wrong white family and they're going to make Stalin look casual. That's always been my expectation of what would kick off Round Two: This Time It's Ethnic.

Blogger J Thomas March 23, 2015 10:09 AM  

Vox, your inability to apply your MPAI mantra to the KKK readers of your blog, is disturbing.

Whether you like it or not, Vox, there are many white idiot KKK sympathizers who will run with what you say (as one commenter already has on this post, suggesting a mass "cull").

In light of MPAI, yes, you will constantly have to distance yourself from these bro-nazis, if you hope to maintain a modicum of respect while discussing these issues.

Levels of insecurity now are so high, and if you don't realize the implications of MPAI, especially around the subject of people being unable to make sharp distinctions when race is discussed, you're being an idiot.

Blogger J Thomas March 23, 2015 10:12 AM  

"Neo-nazis" (auto-correct)

Blogger Josh March 23, 2015 10:16 AM  

We're entering the phase of this becoming an everyday event.

Crime rates are at fifty year lows.

So as nate said it's been an everyday event for half a century.

Blogger Josh March 23, 2015 10:17 AM  

Vox, your inability to apply your MPAI mantra to the KKK readers of your blog, is disturbing.

If most people are idiots and the storm front brigade are people, most of them are idiots.

I don't see where MPAI is not applied here.

Anonymous Salt March 23, 2015 10:17 AM  

Caveat: Cities have always had certain problems, it's their nature.

Nate, I grew up outside Pittsburgh and went there often; had no qualms about it. People did it every day and mostly no one had any thought as to going there only if armed. Today, I'd not go unarmed.

Blogger darkdoc March 23, 2015 10:18 AM  

I have a 210 lb. Mastiff, huge head, beady black eyes without expression. As you said, the UPS guy never gets out of his/her vehicle, mailman drops packeges and mail on to the driveway.

We have a small farm my wife manages, the farmers who visit stay in their vehicles, and keep their own dogs in the truck.

He doesn't bark much at all, but his stare can be awesome and sufficient. When he barks, it is Big Boy.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey March 23, 2015 10:18 AM  

That's always been my expectation of what would kick off Round Two: This Time It's Ethnic.

Mine too. A random event to start it off. They keep poking and prodding, testing our defenses, someone(s) eventually will react.

Blogger Chris Mallory March 23, 2015 10:19 AM  

The account I read said the yutes didn't even get any money from the victim.

"Why? If he had shot them and left, no one would know who he is or what color he was."

Bad advice. In an urban area, you will be on camera at some point. Running away is a good way to get convicted of murder. "The guilty flee when no man pursues".

Always go armed and never live within walking distance of vibrant housing or public basketball courts.

Blogger Nate March 23, 2015 10:19 AM  

"Whether you like it or not, Vox, there are many white idiot KKK sympathizers who will run with what you say (as one commenter already has on this post, suggesting a mass "cull")."

/facepalm

Blogger Nate March 23, 2015 10:20 AM  

"Bad advice. In an urban area, you will be on camera at some point. Running away is a good way to get convicted of murder. "

better advice: don't live or work in an urban shit hole.

Anonymous wEz March 23, 2015 10:21 AM  

Don't worry, these unnamed children will get quite a talking to. Then after a few months in juvy and a few hours of comminity service they will back on the street committing more crimes and looking for more random, innocent white people to kill.

Blogger Vox March 23, 2015 10:21 AM  

In light of MPAI, yes, you will constantly have to distance yourself from these bro-nazis, if you hope to maintain a modicum of respect while discussing these issues.

I don't have to do anything of the sort and I have more respect for "bro-nazis" than I do for concern trolls. In any event, I have been reliably informed on numerous occasions that I lost all credibility and respect years ago, so I'm not even remotely concerned about losing that which is long gone.

Levels of insecurity now are so high, and if you don't realize the implications of MPAI, especially around the subject of people being unable to make sharp distinctions when race is discussed, you're being an idiot.

People have never made sharp distinctions where race is concerned, nor, given regression to the mean, does it make any sense that they should. Mass ethnic cleansing across the West is coming no matter what you say, what I say, or what anyone says. It is inevitable. Precisely what do you hope to accomplish by pretending what you know perfectly well exists is not there? Breivik was just the smallest harbinger of the events to come.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey March 23, 2015 10:25 AM  

Incidentally, it's good to see Vox and some others use the term "African" to refer to blacks in the US. For that is what they are and always have been. Not Americans at all.

It's helpful, in light of current and impending events, for us to think of these beings as an alien, foreign population that have no place in our countries.

Anonymous Gunnutmegger March 23, 2015 10:33 AM  

p-dawg: "Why? If he had shot them and left, no one would know who he is or what color he was"

In theory this sounds viable. But, in practice, it's not going to work. In the eyes of the justice system, flight=guilt.

Too many cameras and busybodies and databases to make flight a viable option. And if you use a pistol, you had better wipe your cartridges clean of fingerprints before loading them or you will just leave your calling card.

And then, once the justice system and media know who you are, they will pile on. Your chances of successfully mounting a justifiable homicide defense are greatly reduced because you made yourself look guilty by running. If you thought George Zimmerman got a raw deal, getting caught fleeing will be worse.

If you do use your gun, be the first one to call the cops to the scene. But don't give anything beyond the basic facts ("they attacked me and I had to defend myself") until you speak with an attorney.

And this also applies to encounters where you draw a weapon and the impending attack is nullified. Dumb people think "whew, I am glad that didn't happen" and go about their business. But if you don't call the cops first and explain what happened, the would-be perpetrators can call and say you threatened them with a gun. Or a bystander will inevitably misinterpret the nature of the encounter and report you as the crook.

If flight from a potentially deadly situation is vital to your survival, flee to the nearest police officer or police station to explain what happened. That is a defensible behavior.

The justice system is as much a threat to you as a criminal. You must understand it and take it into consideration when deciding on your course of action. Ignoring it will hurt you.

Blogger Nate March 23, 2015 10:34 AM  

"Mass ethnic cleansing across the West is coming no matter what you say, what I say, or what anyone says. It is inevitable."

its the feminine part of his brain coming out. Ever notice how a woman's problems can simply go away just by talking about them? Its like that with liberals like this guy... only in reverse. As long as we don't talk about it... it isn't real! But if we talk about it... OH NOES!

Anonymous rho March 23, 2015 10:36 AM  

I now have a picture in my head of what a "bro-nazi" would look like. It's awesome.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey March 23, 2015 10:37 AM  

@J Thomas

"Levels of insecurity now are so high"

In the face of constant black-on-White terrorist assaults, daily humiliations and taunting in the media, and with progressives like Ed Brayton making threats against Nationalists such as "bullshit like this makes me want to climb a tower with a high-powered rifle and start picking people off," I think White Americans have been remarkably well-behaved so far.

So what are you afraid of?

Anonymous Will Best March 23, 2015 10:38 AM  

If the blacks will not handle (cull) their own community, god help them when the whites say "enough" and do it for them, for at that point people won't care as to any distinction between them.

In fairness, blacks do a semi reasonable job of culling their own.

It happens to a member of the wrong white family and they're going to make Stalin look casual.

I don't know about that. In theory there is a lot of opportunity for such a triggering incident in the South, and yet we haven't had one.

Anonymous BigGaySteve March 23, 2015 10:43 AM  

"Most lynchings were a form of rough justice Can you prove this?"

Easy all lynching in US history 1,297 white, 3,446 black that's more egalitarian than death row right now considering the whites were actual white, not George Zimmerman white. Some states had only whites lynched. http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/shipp/lynchingsstate.html

I was talking to a gay journalist after the Chris Lane murder he said it was not a hate crime even after seeing the tweets about targeting whites, unless the cops said it. He just wouldn't believe it, I told him that groids commit most of the gay bashings. He acted like the kkk hopped in a time machine to plant false tweets in the past when if they had a time machine they would kill John Wilkes Booth.

One of the funniest videos I ever saw was Philly Mayor Nutter's chief of police saying "don't shoots da chittlens dey only be chittlens" because whites started getting CCWs because they figured out who was doing the knock out game. It might be on the White Girl Bleed A Lot site.

"better advice: don't live or work in an urban shit hole."
Ethnic cleansing is what is called white flight when it happens to whites, and if you leave a die verse area you don't have to worry about your boyfriend cheating on you as much.

Anonymous Salt March 23, 2015 10:44 AM  

In fairness, blacks do a semi reasonable job of culling their own.

I'm sure Mr. Stuhlman would agree with you.

/s

Blogger Miguel D'Anconia March 23, 2015 10:46 AM  

Black amerikans by and large are a useless lot. I myself would gladly pay to ship there feral asses to Haiti or Afrika. How much of this crap will white america put up with before the cut the coon coddling and hold these POS's to a normal civilized standard?

Anonymous PA March 23, 2015 10:50 AM  

"Crime rates are at fifty year lows."

This oft-cited fact is largely a product of people having adjusted to crime by withdrawing from sizeable portions of public space, in effect ceding what was once theirs, which in itself is a statement of how much WORSE things have gotten.

Anonymous Salt March 23, 2015 10:52 AM  

hold these POS's to a normal civilized standard?

What's normal? Hold them to their own observable standard and send them to where it's in accepted play.

Blogger Josh March 23, 2015 10:56 AM  

This oft-cited fact is largely a product of people having adjusted to crime by withdrawing from sizeable portions of public space, in effect ceding what was once theirs, which in itself is a statement of how much WORSE things have gotten.

What does "withdrawing from sizeable portions of public space" mean?

I personally think the drop is the result of harsher sentencing for violent criminals and the increase in CCW.

Anonymous Red Comet March 23, 2015 10:59 AM  

I feel sorry the victim in this story in more ways than one. Non-Southern older whites like this man grew up sheltered from the reality of barbaric low IQ black violence by the simple fact that barely any blacks lived near them.

The media has also covered for the barbarism nation-wide, allowing them to maintain the illusion their entire lives...until they became a statistic.

OpenID bc64a9f8-765e-11e3-8683-000bcdcb2996 March 23, 2015 10:59 AM  

IMHO
At this point, every robbery by ANYONE is sufficient reason to believe one's life is in imminent danger and HAS ALWAYS BEEN sufficient justification for lethal self-defense.
SEE! I don't "practice" discrimination, bigotry, "irrational fear or hatred" for anyone in particular.
CaptDMO

Anonymous bw March 23, 2015 11:00 AM  

Black America: bringing black Terrorism to Urban cities for decades, and all for the political, ideological vote.
Where's the "Terrorist!!" label?

In Western Marxist, multiracial societies, whites are the wimps. Every other race asserts itself, lobbies, agitates, makes demands, and is given quotas, preferences, and privileges. Only whites cringe, defer, and grovel. It is natural to feel contempt for people who are so ashamed of their ancestors and of their own existence.
But what needs explaining is why whites put up with it, even excuse it.
They are behaviorally trained in their white ethnomasochism and self mongrelization and genocide.
And of course, the politicians and the bureaucrats whom they appoint know damn well from whence the money flows and whom they serve.






Blogger Josh March 23, 2015 11:04 AM  

SEE! I don't "practice" discrimination, bigotry, "irrational fear or hatred" for anyone in particular.

I dunno, it seems like you're bigoted against robbers...

Anonymous BigGaySteve March 23, 2015 11:04 AM  

"Crime rates are at fifty year lows."

Cooking the books has resulted in Chicago being in the list of the top 20 safest cities in the world. Many cities cook the books to lower their crime rates. DC, London, Paris, Chicago & NYC are on the list of the top 20 when getting stabbed in the back 20 times counts as natural causes. In reality the top 20 would probably all be in Asia https://homes.yahoo.com/news/20-safest-cities-in-the-world-182247656.html.

Blogger Noah B March 23, 2015 11:06 AM  

Bad advice. In an urban area, you will be on camera at some point. Running away is a good way to get convicted of murder. "The guilty flee when no man pursues".

Most of the time the resolution is so limited that video is not helpful. And since these kinds of crime scenes tend to attract angry mobs, there's a solid argument that fleeing the scene is reasonable. But you shouldn't wait too long to call a lawyer. Apparently, it looks bad to some folks if you go home and immediately order a pizza.

Anonymous BigGaySteve March 23, 2015 11:09 AM  

Chicago book cooking http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/May-2014/Chicago-crime-rates/

Blogger Josh March 23, 2015 11:09 AM  

Cooking the books has resulted in Chicago being in the list of the top 20 safest cities in the world. Many cities cook the books to lower their crime rates. DC, London, Paris, Chicago & NYC are on the list of the top 20 when getting stabbed in the back 20 times counts as natural causes. In reality the top 20 would probably all be in Asia https://homes.yahoo.com/news/20-safest-cities-in-the-world-182247656.html.

In the linked article, crime only counted for 25% of the ranking, and they only looked at 50 cities.

I believe Steve sailer has written that homicide stats are more difficult for cities to conceal than other crimes because of the whole "there being a dead body" thing.

Anonymous Anonymous March 23, 2015 11:14 AM  

Maybe you should consider putting a cap on it if you are going into dark areas. http://justicecaps.com/justicecaps_orders.htm
The Justice Cap proprietary IR technology blinds normally used “night-vision” and “low-light” video surveillance cameras, blocking the NSA face recognition software ("trapwire") used worldwide today.

OpenID bc64a9f8-765e-11e3-8683-000bcdcb2996 March 23, 2015 11:14 AM  

"What does "withdrawing from sizeable portions of public space" mean?"
It means that "certain" public places, formerly known as "you didn't build that", are now considered "no go zones", by savvy folks interested in a peaceable existance.

"I dunno, it seems like you're bigoted against robbers...
Your no really good with a dictionary, are ya'?
CaptDMO

Blogger Viisaus March 23, 2015 11:15 AM  

In Latin America, death squads would be sicked upon these kind of juvenile ghetto scum:

http://www.vice.com/video/sewers-of-bogota

"I've been in Bogota, my mother's from there and it's a very tought town. I was shocked by the lack of compassion by my own cousins at the street kids and homeless people. They just call them dirty thieves. Problem is, these folks in the sewer have no jobs and they are all addicted to drugs for the most part (how else could you handle living in these deplorable conditions without being wasted on drugs). Drugs and food cost money which they get by stealing from people, pulling knives on people etc. So, the local population comes to hate them. It's the same problem throughout Latin America, Brazil in particular is famous for it's street children. What is truly terrible is that the governments of Latin America do NOTHING to help these people. Rich people don't want to pay taxes and rarely do. Governments don't provide basic services. So, those on the margins turn to petty crime just to survive. The angry populace forms paramilitary death squads to do "social cleansing" and MURDER homeless people, homosexuals and anyone perceived to be a leftist sympathizer."

In these kind of countries, there can be lethal consequences for assaulting civilized people.

Anonymous John Smallberries March 23, 2015 11:16 AM  

Well said, PA. The "peace" that we're experiencing is merely the (temporary) peace the prey experiences having outdistanced the predator by pell-mell flight. Never fear, our betters have given the predators wheeled transport to and lodging where the prey has fled to. See: Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing and the push for bus lines from the inner cities to suburban enclaves as a matter of civil rights.

I see left as "enablers" as the crime problem would not be nearly as bad if interference wasn't run for them in the press, academia, entertainment, etc.

But it strikes me that they are operating (probably intentionally) just like that stereotypical little brother who breaks your shit, throws stuff at you when your back is turned and generally is a pain in the ass. When exasperation with the little turd overflows and you give him a well-earned punch that knocks him on his butt, he immediately runs to mommy with a tale of your unprovoked aggression.

Seriously, if the Powers That Be were consciously trying to provoke a segment of the population into a understandable reaction which they could then use as an excuse for cracking down on them further, would they behave any differently than they currently are?

I suppose eventually they will get it, but it may be rather more robust (one prays at least) than they're banking on.

Anonymous bw March 23, 2015 11:17 AM  

having adjusted to crime by withdrawing from sizeable portions of public space, in effect ceding what was once theirs

Spot on description of what has happened in large, urban cities, white flight in Atlanta being but one simple and perfect example.
If whites build it, they will come (to take it and degrade it).
The revolutionaries never build or create anything themselves, they simply take over existing infrastructure and use it for their ideological and political gain. I believe VD has long opined similarly.

OpenID bc64a9f8-765e-11e3-8683-000bcdcb2996 March 23, 2015 11:17 AM  

And I'm not really good with "preview"!
CaptDMO

Anonymous BigGaySteve March 23, 2015 11:18 AM  

"whole "there being a dead body" thing." -- http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/May-2014/Chicago-crime-rates/

That lists several dead bodies not attributed to murder enough to alter the crime rates. On March 17, the body of Michelle Manalansan, a 29-year-old college student, was found stuffed into an air mattress in a Pilsen apartment.Her death certificate says she died by homicide, citing blunt head and neck trauma. Police suspended the investigation until a suspect could be “located and interviewed.” A year later, they had still not classified the case as a homicide.

On July 23, the decomposed body of Tiara Groves, 20, was found naked and gagged in an empty West Side warehouse. The medical examiner ruled her death a homicide by “unspecified means.” A lieutenant reclassified the homicide investigation as a noncriminal death investigation on December 18, citing the medical examiner’s “inability to determine a cause of death.”

On November 29, 22-year-old Patrick Walker was fatally shot in the head while driving in the Far South Side.His death certificate says he died by homicide. The medical examiner deferred a finding of the cause and manner of death “pending police investigation.”The case is still classified by police as a noncriminal death investigation, not a homicide investigation.

Along with others

OpenID bc64a9f8-765e-11e3-8683-000bcdcb2996 March 23, 2015 11:22 AM  

bw
"The revolutionaries never build or create anything themselves, they simply take over existing infrastructure and use it for their ideological and political gain."

But the musicals about it are FABULOUS!
CaptDMO

Anonymous hausfrau March 23, 2015 11:22 AM  

"yep. Big Dogs are scarier to them than pits. I've seen big black dudes turn into blubbering little girls at the sight of a healthy Rotty"

When I lived on my own in my early 20's I used to walk my 90lb German Shepherd regularly after dark. Stupid I know but I was 21 and thought it was ok as long as I had the dog. I lived in rather vibrant parts of town quite close the Mexican area but still not a bad neighborhood overall. Mexicans and blacks would very clearly cross the street to avoid my dog. A few times I got asked if she was a police dog, which was funny because I was obviously not a police officer. Walking the same dog in a white area would have strangers coming up to me to pet her or just talk about that German Shepherd they once had. I always chalked it up to people in bad neighborhoods not wanting to care for a dog that wouldn't bite strangers but I don't know if that's the case. I think they just don't train their animals and they assume everyone is like that. I've definitely noticed that black people are afraid of large dogs even if it's not a guard breed.

Blogger Josh March 23, 2015 11:24 AM  

That lists several dead bodies not attributed to murder enough to alter the crime rates.

I read the article.

Aside from homicides, which soared in 2012, the drop in crime since Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy arrived in May 2011 is unprecedented

I think that shows the difficulty of cooking the books on homicides compared to other crimes. Yes, you can do it, but you probably won't be able to lower that rate as much as the rates of the other index crimes.

Anonymous Bobo March 23, 2015 11:24 AM  

It's already a war, just the early stages.
You skin is your uniform.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 23, 2015 11:27 AM  

First order of business is to destroy the taboos inflicted upon our society by the priests of PC. Honestly a few white men providing leadership in a neighborhood could clean out these types within days or weeks, whole sections of our cities could be reclaimed.

But since we are all hobbled by the taboos of fat loutish gamma SJWs like Brayton/Scalzi and their phony worship of the sainted "Other" here we are wasting time while all crumbles.

Blogger Nate March 23, 2015 11:32 AM  

"I've definitely noticed that black people are afraid of large dogs even if it's not a guard breed. "

Its not even just dogs. You should see them shit themselves around horses. Big animals scare the shit out of them. local cowboy round here rides his horse everywhere... everyday. Even bitches at the city for not providing a place to tie it off, which is actually still required by law. Anyway I've seen groups of black men totally lose their shit when they walk out of a building and see the horse tied to post.

Anonymous rho March 23, 2015 11:35 AM  

I don't know about that. In theory there is a lot of opportunity for such a triggering incident in the South, and yet we haven't had one.

The South is pretty different from other regions. I'm Nate-adjacent, and I think he'd agree that while there's something bubbling underneath, there are enough outlets to release pressure, and there is a strong lid keeping it under control. Plus it's usually too damn hot to get up to shenanigans.

If it all goes pear-shaped, it's not likely to start in the deep South. History and tradition has created a suspicious, narrow-eyed detente, but detente nonetheless.

Blogger Viisaus March 23, 2015 11:36 AM  

When you think about it, you see that the KKK was just an Anglo version of a "paramilitary death squad".

Blogger Nate March 23, 2015 11:37 AM  

"
If it all goes pear-shaped, it's not likely to start in the deep South. History and tradition has created a suspicious, narrow-eyed detente, but detente nonetheless."

Yep.

The deep south is to negros what texas is to mexicans.

the whites here have brutally killed so many so often that it keeps them inline to this day. And in the deep south Blacks are far more rural than the rest of the nation... which changes things considerably.

Y'all don't have towns with signs warning niggers to be out by sundown.

We do.

Blogger Josh March 23, 2015 11:40 AM  

Anyway I've seen groups of black men totally lose their shit when they walk out of a building and see the horse tied to post.

They're also scared of deer

Blogger Nate March 23, 2015 11:41 AM  

Stuff happens in the cities down here... pensacola... mobile... new orleans... and you hear about the criminal prosecution and all but you don't hear about the real retaliation. Life in the black community gets really hard after a white woman gets killed by one of them. Cops crack down on them... money starts drying up... all kinds of behind the scenes stuff happens.

Blogger Viisaus March 23, 2015 11:42 AM  

"But since we are all hobbled by the taboos of fat loutish gamma SJWs like Brayton/Scalzi and their phony worship of the sainted "Other" here we are wasting time while all crumbles."

The ideal of Marxist Communism has always been the indignant masses activated and led by smart philosopher-kings. The productive middle part of the society gets caught in this pincer-movement between elitist intellectuals and lumpen rabble.

Blogger Noah B March 23, 2015 11:52 AM  

"The ideal of Marxist Communism has always been the indignant masses activated and led by smart philosopher-kings. The productive middle part of the society gets caught in this pincer-movement between elitist intellectuals and lumpen rabble."

Definitely. Another key part of the equation are those delusional midwits among the middle class who believe that they are going to be rewarded if they obediently support the philosopher kings.

Anonymous Salt March 23, 2015 11:52 AM  

Y'all don't have towns with signs warning niggers to be out by sundown.

We do.


Yup.

Blogger Feather Blade March 23, 2015 11:57 AM  

A lynching is social justice...

FTFY

Anonymous Red Comet March 23, 2015 11:57 AM  

In Latin America, death squads would be sicked upon these kind of juvenile ghetto scum

I've heard that illegal mestizos in the US are also known to "disappear" troublemakers.

Blogger Viisaus March 23, 2015 12:04 PM  

"I've heard that illegal mestizos in the US are also known to "disappear" troublemakers."

This is how they do it in the old country:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dan-kovalik/death-squads-colombia_b_5021244.html

"In the port town of Buenaventura -- a city, which, by the way, was to be a model city for the glories of free trade -- HRW found that "entire neighborhoods were dominated by powerful paramilitary successor groups ... who restrict residents' movements, recruit their children, extort businesses, and routinely engage in horrific acts of violence against anyone who defies their will." Amongst their "horrific acts," these paramilitaries "have 'disappeared' scores -- and possibly hundreds - of Buenaventura residents over the past several years. They dismember their victims and dump their body parts in the bay and along its mangrove-covered shores, or bury them in hidden graves..." HRW relates that "[i]n several neighborhoods, residents report the existence of casas de pique -- or 'chop-up houses' -- where the groups slaughter their victims," many times while they are still alive.

Moreover, as HRW explains, the police and navy which are supposed to be protecting the civilians of Buenaventura -- 84% of whom are Afro-Colombians -- do nothing in the face of this violence, or, in some cases, actually cooperate with the paramilitaries. And, while the public authorities have hundreds of cases of abuses on their docket to investigate, the number of those prosecuted for human rights abuses approaches zero. Therefore, while it is generally known by the community, including the police, where the "chop-up houses'" are, nobody will report them."

Anonymous Will Best March 23, 2015 12:15 PM  

Cooking the books has resulted in Chicago being in the list of the top 20 safest cities in the world. Many cities cook the books to lower their crime rates. DC, London, Paris, Chicago & NYC are on the list of the top 20 when getting stabbed in the back 20 times counts as natural causes.

You really shouldn't classify Chicago as one city for crime stat purposes. You could draw a line through the city and everything on North of that line is as safe as any metro area and everything south of that line is Detroit. It wouldn't surprise me if a 2-City solution gets serious consideration here in a couple years to solve the pension problems.

Blogger YIH March 23, 2015 12:25 PM  

Laguna Beach Fogey:
Incidentally, it's good to see Vox and some others use the term "African" to refer to blacks in the US.
Been doing so for quite some time. I also tend to emphasize wherever on Earth they happen to be because of the behavior patterns.

Anonymous Jack Amok March 23, 2015 12:35 PM  

And its just a matter of elimination really, if the news doesn't identify the perps as white teens/youths/whatever its generally safe to conclude...

As George Zimmerman has taught us, even if they do say "white", you might still conclude...


The average white moderate will care more about the poor dog being terrified than yet another white man being murdered by vibrant thuglings.

Well, I do have sympathy for the dog. He didn't have any choice in where they went walking. His murdered owner was the one who chose to locate his family in proximity to vibrants.

Own a Ridgeback. The Africans won't even think of approaching. Better yet, own a pack.

I know one of the local K-9 cops. He said most blacks are so terrified of dogs they surrender immediately if a K-9 is on the scene. Now, the guy is Oriental, so maybe he's just being racist, but...

Blogger YIH March 23, 2015 12:49 PM  

Red Comet:
I feel sorry the victim in this story in more ways than one. Non-Southern older whites like this man grew up sheltered from the reality of barbaric low IQ black violence by the simple fact that barely any blacks lived near them.
Not just that, many of them have tame 'pet Africans' which makes them think that the behavior of their pets is 'normal' and the typical behavior of Africans is abnormal.
Of course even so-called conservative/libertarian types don't want to be around Africans out 'in the wild(ing)'.

Blogger Josh March 23, 2015 1:04 PM  

Vox, given your 500 years to civilization theory, wouldn't some southern blacks be halfway there by now, given that they have 200-400 years of exposure to European civilization?

Blogger Viisaus March 23, 2015 1:07 PM  

The Gypsies have not proceeded very far in spite of having been in Europe many hundreds of years.

Blogger Robert What? March 23, 2015 1:16 PM  

Are there really idiots out there bringing up the KKK still?

However I think we are being too hard on these "teens". They were just exercising their Constitutional right to free expression. In their case that expression was to "get whitey". Who are we to judge?

Blogger Vox March 23, 2015 1:19 PM  

Vox, given your 500 years to civilization theory, wouldn't some southern blacks be halfway there by now, given that they have 200-400 years of exposure to European civilization?

Correction: 1,000 years. So, no.

Anonymous Harsh March 23, 2015 1:20 PM  

"Neo-nazis" (auto-correct)

Actually, we do prefer to be called bro-nazis.

Blogger Nate March 23, 2015 1:59 PM  

"Correction: 1,000 years. So, no."

I'm I being a retard here... or isn't this a sort of nurture over nature assertion? or does 1000 years of exposure actually alter nature?

The fact is there could be species of man that are simply not capable of attaining broad spectrum civilization.

Blogger YIH March 23, 2015 2:01 PM  

Vox:
Correction: 1,000 years. So, no.
I've said it before, I don't think it's possible ever.
Egyptian Hieroglyphics, written Chinese and written Hebrew all date back over 5000 years, yet there doesn't seem to be any evidence that the written word existed in sub-Saharan Africa (other than Arabic brought by Arab slavers) by the time Gutenberg was pressing out his first Bibles.

Anonymous ThirdMonkey March 23, 2015 2:02 PM  

Our increasing number Atzatlan hermanos will take care of the African problem soon enough. See Compton and the south side of Chicago. Demographics is destiny, ese.

Until then, I'm still packin' my gat/cuete. I live in a 95% white community, but you'd never know it based on the local Wal-Mart shopper demographic.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 23, 2015 2:04 PM  

Its a chump game to talk tough on the net about black behavior. It is the narrative writers and the gatekeepers needing some tough love. Destroy their taboos and power to implement them and this kind of problem will for the most part be disappeared.

Blogger Doom March 23, 2015 2:07 PM  

I don't know. A guy, in the city, walking a small dog? I saw his picture. He looks like a typical Democrat, organic food eating, multiculturalist. He knows, just knows... knew anyway, that all men are equal, and women too. Some of them more equal, because of him and his success. He voted for the people who have messed with cops, so they can only arrest on par quota numbers of minorities, and who have no reason to want to even defend, when they can just do paperwork afterward... as unions are leading them away from heroism and into bureaucracy. I could be wrong. I just don't get that vibe.

Suicide, whether by pistol, rope, or politics... while sad... has nothing to do with me. Not in this case.

Anonymous N5 March 23, 2015 2:12 PM  

Do you even Putsch, Bro?

Anonymous guest March 23, 2015 2:42 PM  

It's funny how the streets of Philadelphia are literary more dangerous than the streets of Kabul and Baghdad were. Statistically you are now more likely to survive an actual tour of duty overseas than you are walking your dog in a black area...

Blogger Thordaddy March 23, 2015 2:53 PM  

I bet dollars to donuts that YOU are not able to make "sharp distinctions" between "blacks" and niggers? In fact, I bet you that you don't even think niggers exist, do they?

Blogger Josh March 23, 2015 3:04 PM  

Correction: 1,000 years. So, no.

My mistake.

Blogger ajw308 March 23, 2015 3:05 PM  

@Hermit: Why? If he had shot them and left, no one would know who he is or what color he was.
Are you assuming he wouldn't have his cell phone with him?

Cops will tell you they locate persons of interest and suspects via their Facebook account, or some other BS story. Their abilities will come out when kids are lost and the temp drops at night, "We turned on their cell phones and had them located in 15 minutes".

Blogger ajw308 March 23, 2015 3:07 PM  

It's funny how the streets of Philadelphia are literary more dangerous than the streets of Kabul and Baghdad were.
During Vietnam, their were ghettos that were more dangerous than Nam.

Anonymous PFT Commenter March 23, 2015 3:10 PM  

"During Vietnam, their were ghettos that were more dangerous than Nam."

*they're

Anonymous FP March 23, 2015 3:32 PM  

"Are there really idiots out there bringing up the KKK still?"

They're likely working for the SPLC or the FBI.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus March 23, 2015 3:41 PM  

Maybe the dog was whimpering for oppressed "youths" in the ghetto.

As the snow flies
On a cold and gray Chicago mornin'
A poor little baby child is born
In the ghetto

And his mama cries
Cause if there's one thing that she don't need
It's another hungry mouth to feed
In the ghetto

People, don't you understand
The child needs a helping hand
Or he'll grow to be an angry young man some day
Take a look at you and me,
Are we too blind to see,
Do we simply turn our heads

And look the other way
Well the world turns
And a hungry little boy with a runny nose
Plays in the street as the cold wind blows
In the ghetto

And his hunger burns
So he starts to roam the streets at night
And he learns how to steal
And he learns how to fight
In the ghetto

Then one night in desperation
A young man breaks away
He buys a gun, he steals a car,
He tries to run, but he don't get far
And his mama cries
As a crowd gathers 'round an angry young man
Face down on the street with a gun in his hand
In the ghetto

As her young man dies,
On a cold and gray Chicago mornin',
Another little baby child is born
In the ghetto

And his mama cries

Anonymous marty March 23, 2015 3:56 PM  

"What does 'withdrawing from sizeable portions of public space' mean?"

I live in SF. I used to ride BART to Berkeley twice a week to swim on campus. No more.

Blogger David March 23, 2015 4:12 PM  

Unless one wishes to experience the Zimmerman Option (eventually cleared of wrongdoing by the courts, but your life is destroyed anyway), it seems prudent to carry a non-lethal weapon along with the gun.

OC spray to thwart unarmed attacks, gun for knives and guns. Yeah, it sounds like a challenge, but not half as much so as either going Hand-to-Hand with someone or someones who may be luckier or tougher, or going to the mat with a prosecutor being egged on by the Anti-white-guy Mafia.

Avoidance first, non-lethal next, and lethal only as the last resort, one too clear-cut to tempt the race-baiters.

OpenID kbswift March 23, 2015 4:14 PM  

@YIH

It is certainly possible, just look at how well we did with domesticating dogs or silver foxes (which took only 50 years). But you can't let wolves breed themselves into labradors, that much is true.

There is hope yet if we take it upon ourselves to enforce selective breeding for civility instead of brute force.

Blogger Nate March 23, 2015 4:29 PM  

'I bet dollars to donuts that YOU are not able to make "sharp distinctions" between "blacks" and niggers? In fact, I bet you that you don't even think niggers exist, do they?"

Black: The hard working dark woman that cleans my house... or the hard working black man that mows my yard. neither are educated... neither are on government assistance either. Both are christian people and neither have any sort of criminal record at all.

Nigger: bloated sow at walmart... shuffling her slippers along the floor because she's to lazy to actually pick her heels up. She is is carrying a designer purse but she is paying with food stamps.

There are a lot of observable options to use for clarification but Work Ethic would be high on the list. Real work. I note that plenty of examples of the former hate the latter as much as you do Thordaddy.

Anonymous Tawmmy from Quinzee March 23, 2015 4:39 PM  

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NO ONE DENIES THIS!

Blogger David-2 March 23, 2015 4:55 PM  

It's true that according to that linked nbc affiliate's story the perps were merely "high school freshmen" but in their favor they did put a photo of the perp at the top of the article, so nobody is left wondering. (Usually those news stations pages link to a video of a newscast where all you can see is the newscaster in the image on the page.)

By the way, the police captain quoted in that article called it correctly: ""Get with your parent and turn yourself in before we come and get you." Note the singular "parent" not "parents". (Though that could be a transcription error.)

Anonymous BigGaySteve March 23, 2015 4:57 PM  

"or does 1000 years of exposure actually alter nature?"

1000 years of exposure where being smart and civilized increases your odds of reproduction, so welfare/dole is dysgenic.

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Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey March 23, 2015 5:10 PM  

When it goes pear-shaped--and it will, soon--it will be in the Midwest.

Anonymous Happy Working Woman March 23, 2015 5:10 PM  

Black: The hard working dark woman that cleans my house... or the hard working black man that mows my yard. neither are educated... neither are on government assistance either. Both are christian people and neither have any sort of criminal record at all.

Nigger: bloated sow at walmart... shuffling her slippers along the floor because she's to lazy to actually pick her heels up. She is is carrying a designer purse but she is paying with food stamps.

There are a lot of observable options to use for clarification but Work Ethic would be high on the list. Real work. I note that plenty of examples of the former hate the latter as much as you do Thordaddy.


This is an important concept for many Whites to understand. Black people who work hard, are ashamed to take handouts, are raised in two-parent households, don't have babies without marriage, are religious (most times Christian) not only exist but do everything they can to stay as invisible as possible. They're not marching to support Trayvon or Micheal (but they might be supporting Eric). And most importantly, they don't support the ghetto ignorance commonly assumed to be "Black" behavior.

It used to be that "acting white" was the way to discredit and disparage these types of Blacks. Now the label "New Black" is used to against anyone who speaks in favor of personal responsibility and taking responsibility for the choices you make. Whenever someone tries to tell me that I'm a sell-out because I no longer think that we as a community should support women who have multiple children by multiple men before the age of 25, I simply respond with how can the children turn out any better than the parent if this is the example in the household. The time has come to be realistic about what is going in the Black community and deal with it.

To me the most interesting part about the coming separation (and I totally agree it's coming) will be the reactions of ignorant Black folks when they realize the better-off Black folks aren't coming to their defense. When the wheat and chaff get sorted, there are going to be a lot of people on the outside looking in.

Anonymous Apollo March 23, 2015 5:30 PM  

As George Zimmerman has taught us, even if they do say "white", you might still conclude...

Well, if they do say "white", you can conclude that they are white or the media really wants them to be white...

OpenID cailcorishev March 23, 2015 5:33 PM  

When it goes pear-shaped--and it will, soon--it will be in the Midwest.

I'm curious about your reasoning, because I live there, and it's very hard to budge people from their TV-bolstered notions about the general goodness of all people. Also, outside certain parts of the cities, most people are white and don't have to deal with NAMs enough to have much personal experience to counter that. Are you talking about in the cities like St. Louis, or the more rural areas? Thanks.

Blogger S1AL March 23, 2015 6:22 PM  

"Egyptian Hieroglyphics, written Chinese and written Hebrew all date back over 5000 years, yet there doesn't seem to be any evidence that the written word existed in sub-Saharan Africa (other than Arabic brought by Arab slavers) by the time Gutenberg was pressing out his first Bibles."

Not sure where you got this idea. Ethiopia had a written language before several parts of Europe, and there are a few large coastal civilizations with written languages dating back a few thousand years.

Written language appears to be connected directly to population size, which is why the highly tribal, low-population areas of the world didn't have them. Urban population centers are also relevant.

I also believe that Vox's 1k years estimate is applicable to isolated areas. Pressure within functional civilizations should accelerate the process, but we don't have a lot of examples to check against. That, and the genetic foundation for g-intelligence hasn't yet been discovered, so we don't know how to look for it properly.

Also worth noting, for Nate, that nurture is dramatically more important on the society level than nature. That's why the average IQ in the U.S. had risen by about 30 points (adjusted for inflation, consistent across race) in the last century.

Anonymous EH March 23, 2015 7:21 PM  

I'm late to comment on this, or early - I left a comment on the 4GW/ ISIS post about my friend Joe Hrulka and his housemate getting murdered last week while walking two blocks back from a bar in Little Five Points district of Atlanta. See: http://takimag.com/article/blood_at_the_vortex_jim_goad

Many of the formerly left-wing conformists, particularly the productive artists, are veering toward anti-SJW, anti-feminist, race-realist opinions, and some are getting vocal about it. The part-Blacks and older, smarter Black men I have seen are actually happy to hear some truth on this.

Blogger frigger611 March 23, 2015 7:42 PM  

Also worth noting, for Nate, that nurture is dramatically more important on the society level than nature. That's why the average IQ in the U.S. had risen by about 30 points (adjusted for inflation, consistent across race) in the last century. - S1AL

I have zero confidence in that. I don't think the nurture bit is worth a hill of beans.

The rise in IQ is just as likely due to the concomitant rise in miscegenation. Most "African Americans" in the USA have some measure of Caucasian ancestry (some estimates from 22-29%) see, this from Root:

Exactly How "Black" Are Black Americans?
* According to Ancestry.com, the average African American is 65 percent sub-Saharan African, 29 percent European and 2 percent Native American.

* According to 23andme.com, the average African American is 75 percent sub-Saharan African, 22 percent European and only 0.6 percent Native American.

* According to Family Tree DNA.com, the average African American is 72.95 percent sub-Saharan African, 22.83 percent European and 1.7 percent Native American.

But the category of "negro" or "African American" or "Black" or whatever you choose to call it remains undefined, and at best is merely a political identity - but what is clear is that the genetic make-up of the 21st century black American is radically different from the original tribal negro slave, and significantly different even from those just 100 years ago.

I mean, there are some folks who appear to be very light, even "mostly white" (Alicia Keys, Lena Horne, Mariah Carey) while still claiming fully "African American," ostensibly then "negro." The white part of the ancestry is dismissed, even considered shameful to some, while "blackness" is proudly trumpeted.

To get good results from data means protecting the integrity of that data. You want results for IQ, based on race? Then race must be clearly defined and genetic make-up involving admixtures of other races must accounted for, perhaps in percentage form, though there might be better ways, (I am unsure).

What is certain is that the data for IQ will remain tainted as long as people are permitted to lie or to obfuscate what their real genetics are.


Blogger S1AL March 23, 2015 8:04 PM  

@frigger61 - I think you misunderstood me. The *rise* in IQ was consistent across every race, though the IQ averages themselves varied. It's the Flynn effect, and it is well-documented. Is have to go look at the studies again, but I believe that it was also repeated across multiple countries.

Also interesting to note that it has stagnated in the last few decades, for whatever reason.

Anonymous Red Comet March 23, 2015 8:24 PM  

What is certain is that the data for IQ will remain tainted as long as people are permitted to lie or to obfuscate what their real genetics are.

IQ makes real genetics self-evident because certain races are just prone to have more of it than others. And high IQ will always be more successful than low IQ.

This is why the mestizos that look like Spaniards run Latin America while the ones that look like groundskeepers don't.

Blogger frigger611 March 23, 2015 8:59 PM  

Fair enough S1AL. Though I wrote directly about African Americans and cited stats only regarding the admixture of races regarding "African Americans" I did mean to imply that miscegenation of all races has occurred throughout American history, so any stat on any race/ and IQ will be impossible to regard with certainty, because we know race is loosely and fluidly defined.

Intermarrying of two different ethnicities will necessarily produce offspring with genetic makeup 50% from father and 50% from mother - to claim the pure ethnicity of only one parent is folly, for statistical purposes. (Makes a lot of sense for political purposes as victim classes get sympathy and free stuff). This is what is done in most of the western world with regard to statistical reporting, and to stray from the template will get you in hot water very quickly.

I think those in upper echelons of government who watch these demographic changes are very keen on maintaining the illusion that all races are blank slate equal, that nurture is just as important as nature, and so it's in their political interests to keep the performances of races "foggy" and indeterminate - they do this by never admitting that considerable diluting of stock had occurred, and is ongoing.

We might indeed one day encounter a "black" scientist on par with Einstein or Newton, but if his real genetic make-up is 95% Caucasian and 5% African, it won't matter - he will be championed as a "black man."

Ad maybe one day (similarly) a man claiming to be "white" who is 95% African but 5% Caucasian will run the 100m in 9.5 seconds.

But the percentages would be telling, would they not?

Obama is at least 50% Caucasian but is very much NOT proud of it and has said so in his autobiographies.

Personally, I don't see what's so wrong about noticing that those of African ancestry can be gifted athletes while noticing at the same time that those of European ancestry have a talent for order, structure, and thus, civilization.



Anonymous Anon123 March 23, 2015 9:00 PM  

Flynn effect is already failing as IQ averages have begun to drop over the last few decades in Western countries. Coincidentally during the same period as mass immigration was instituted in those same Western nations.

Anonymous Richard Dawkins March 23, 2015 9:05 PM  

Octoons are less likely to chimp out. I believe science has proved this.

Anonymous Jack Amok March 23, 2015 9:36 PM  

Cops will tell you they locate persons of interest and suspects via their Facebook account, or some other BS story. Their abilities will come out when kids are lost and the temp drops at night, "We turned on their cell phones and had them located in 15 minutes".

That's why you stick your cell phone in one of the dead orc's pocket and say some thugs robbed you two blocks away five minutes earlier.

Blogger frigger611 March 23, 2015 10:05 PM  

Coincidentally during the same period as mass immigration was instituted in those same Western nations. - Anon 123

Precisely.

Octoons are less likely to chimp out. I believe science has proved this. - Richard Dawkins.

Hey Dawkins, my great-grandmother was named Osceola (Seminole) and that tribe raided plantations and welcomed slaves into their own. So I'm something like 1/8th Seminole with a few drops African, so I'm totes a minority, and a victim, oh what you've done!

Don't you oppress me!

Blogger maniacprovost March 23, 2015 10:46 PM  

Whatever, black folks around here (95% of my neighbors) ride horses around on a routine basis. Of course, I've never had any trouble.

Anonymous tiredofitall March 23, 2015 11:30 PM  

"If he had shot them and left, no one would know who he is or what color he was." - p-dawg

The problem with that is unlike the "dindu nuffins" your average citizen actually has a registered gun. As in the state can match it to its owner.

Anonymous Jack Amok March 24, 2015 12:05 AM  

I have zero confidence in that. I don't think the nurture bit is worth a hill of beans.

Well, since you mentioned beans, "nurture" includes "nutrition" and improved nutrition is probably what caused the rise in IQ (as well as overall stature) across western nations in the early-to-mid 20th century. It increased IQ across all races because all races had better access to quality nutrition, included increased protein and fat intake.

That topped out by the 50's or 60's in the US.

Anonymous Jack Amok March 24, 2015 12:06 AM  

As in the state can match it to its owner

Only if you leave the gun at the scene. Why would you do that?

Anonymous tiredofitall March 24, 2015 12:43 AM  

@Jack Amok

Unaware of micro-etching of firing pins?

Anonymous Angry March 24, 2015 2:10 AM  

Firing pins, extractors and barrels can all be removed and replaced.

Blogger frigger611 March 24, 2015 2:49 AM  

Nutrition, yes, agreed. Very important for the developmental stages and furtherance of life.

Still doesn't change one iota the fact that (1) the "Social Sciences," including and especially those involved with tracking such things as the intelligence amongst the races and peoples are dominated by notoriously left-wing, politically correct propagandists and SJWs who will not blink at the thought of massaging data and inserting outright falsehoods, so - trust their data? Precisely as much as I trust their data on Global Warming,

and

(2) The goalposts are always moving regarding the very subject matter at hand, (tests are redesigned to quell complaints of cultural/racial bias in the first place, and % ethnicities in ancestry is not closely followed - so no real distinction is made between a new immigrant from Somalia now living in Minneapolis and one Barry Sotoro who grew up in Hawaii - they're defined equally "African American" though the Somali's tribal blood might be pure, while Barry's got a lot of milk in that chocolate.

And that's a problem.

Anonymous Jack Amok March 24, 2015 2:51 AM  

micro-etching! You crack me up. Ballistic fingerprinting is about as reliable as a polygraph test. Besides, pick up your casings. Actually, that's one advantage of a revolver.

Though for added safety, carrying whatever is the common gang sidearm in the area might not be a bad idea. Having some odd-ball thing like a 10mm might be a mistake.

Anonymous Jack Amok March 24, 2015 3:05 AM  

frigger, did I say anything about Social Sciences?

Blogger frigger611 March 24, 2015 3:45 AM  

Nope. Not directly - but yes, by extension.

You declared "and improved nutrition is probably what caused the rise in IQ."

Here my problem is with the word "probably." So how do we know this? Were there "nutrition" studies done alongside "intermarrying" studies, with controls in place for even more variables? Is this your own summation or one from a noted scientist? I'm not being cheeky, I just truly would like to know how this one variable was so successfully isolated and controlled for.

Using the word "probably" implies strong causation, and not merely correlation. I then assume your confidence in the data and conclusions to be greater than mine.

Then you go on to say, "It [nutrition] increased IQ across all races because all races had better access to quality nutrition, included increased protein and fat intake."

That's a sentence with no qualifier, it is declarative. You've here removed "probably" and advanced with a statement that holds no doubt.

At any rate, these studies you cite regarding nutrition and IQ would have had to have been carried out by scientists, if any validity at all can be claimed. And so yes, I am saying it's likely that those studies were conducted by individuals who would proudly claim their status as "social scientists."

And I simply feel that it is right then to raise the flag of caution as relates to any studies or data collected from this field so dominated by these SJW types, for whom the "politics is the personal."

I've already agreed that nutrition is important to the function of life, ergo, good nutrition produces better brains, etc. We're likely in perfect agreement there and I do not doubt nutrition has some bearing on IQ.

Quantifying that influence would be next to impossible, IMHO. And declaring that IQ has gone up BECAUSE (as if 1:1 correspondence) nutrition is just too much inserting of opinion.

I am firmly in the camp of genetics being far more important than environment (nature>nurture) but of course I do not disavow the latter's part in the game of life.

I sense you are resistant to the idea of scientists behaving badly? Skewing data? Leaving whole concepts undefined? Advancing political agendas?

Anonymous Jack Amok March 24, 2015 10:54 AM  

Frigger, you may want to go back and read the recent discussions on Gamma debate tactics, unless you want to end up the next poster child. You've already agreed with me on the one and only thing I actually said, but now you are making up things you imagine I said so you can argue with them. I have one question. Why?

Blogger Nate March 24, 2015 3:10 PM  

"I'm curious about your reasoning, because I live there, and it's very hard to budge people from their TV-bolstered notions about the general goodness of all people. "

remember the riots in cincy?

Anonymous BigGaySteve March 24, 2015 6:27 PM  

"Unaware of micro-etching of firing pins?"

So you are saying you should take a revolver or older gun with you when you go to the ghetto to buy your drugs? Or spare firing pins. Even better pick up the spent brass of someone you don't like to toss at a crime scene. Maybe you should just avoid the black/brown areas and not do drugs.

Anonymous BigGaySteve March 24, 2015 6:44 PM  

"Unaware of micro-etching of firing pins?"

Micro stamping hasn't happened yet.


OpenID cailcorishev March 24, 2015 6:56 PM  

Nate, that's why I asked. If the flash point will be the cities (of course), why Midwestern cities specifically? Why not LA/SF, NYC, or Dallas? Do the Midwestern cities have the worst ratio of white/NAM, with enough NAMs to cause trouble but enough whites to fight back? That would make sense to me, but I stay out of cities as much as possible, so I may not be a good judge.

Blogger frigger611 March 24, 2015 7:38 PM  

Jack, accusing someone of being a Gamma, when you don't truly know, is ad hominem. I'm honest enough to agree with you on a fair point of nutrition, which I addressed.
I brought up the aspect of miscegenation, which is largely ignored but certainly ought to be part of the discussion. You ignored this notion entirely and (using your words again so you don't accuse me of straw man) said : "It [nutrition] increased IQ across all races because all races had better access to quality nutrition, included increased protein and fat intake."

You've not addressed my specific points about leftists who intentionally debase science (in fact you seem to dismiss this) and you've stuck to your argument that the answer to a complex question about rising IQ is singular and has been answered perfectly by "nutrition."
I've not constructed straw men, I used your own statements.
Like Freud said, "sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."
And sometimes a person who has a mild disagreement with you, is just mildly disagreeing with you, and not employing devious tricks and Gamma tactics.
I don't know if you're alpha, beta, omega, gamma, and don't really care.

One of us has attempted to discuss, one of us has dodged the discussion and instead has sought to psychoanalyze the other.

Anonymous Jack Amok March 24, 2015 10:17 PM  

Even better pick up the spent brass of someone you don't like to toss at a crime scene.

Even better better if you shoot at the same range as the local cops. Throw their spent brass all over the scene.

Anonymous Jack Amok March 24, 2015 10:29 PM  

You ignored this notion entirely

Yes, I did. I ignored it. I neither agreed with nor disagreed with it. Yet you responded as if I had attacked your theory when all I did was say nothing about it.

Blogger frigger611 March 25, 2015 12:25 AM  

Your analysis is wrong.

I posited a variable that likely influences the measured rise in IQ.

You then added your unsolicited 2 cents, saying that the rise was due to nutrition. Period. A singular variable. (The very nature of this statement excludes all other variables, if you don't see that, I can't help you).

So yes, you can go on claiming that you didn't "say" this or that, that you didn't use or write down those specific words and thus I am putting words in your mouth, whatever.

But you're being ridiculous. It's as if you said "I just flew in from Seattle" and then I say "what airline did you take?" and then you get all pissy and indignant and respond "when did I say anything about an airline?, you must be a gamma," etc.

Please, have the last word. I'll try to tiptoe more carefully around your tender feelings in the future.


Anonymous Jack Amok March 25, 2015 12:49 AM  

Frigger, you are a fucking idiot. Go home. You're going to get the floor wiped with you if you keep behaving that way around here. I agree with your miscegenation theory, as far as it goes, but you're too stupid not to pick a fight with someone who happens to agree with you because you flipped out the instant I didn't leap to say how brilliant you were. You then proceeded to make up arguments you imagined I was making and went on multi-paragraph rants against them.

Freaking amazing. One after another they stagger on through like a lemming train...

Blogger automatthew March 25, 2015 2:09 AM  

OMG aspie gamma splosion

Blogger David March 25, 2015 8:33 AM  

Why does anyone give this much thought? Schools are already over-run with Spanish-speaking kids, hell, in some cases entire schools are being given over to families who exclusively speak Spanish at home.

Get alarmed about one kid speaking Arabic? For every one of them there are 5,000 speaking Spanish and who have the same level of interest in assimilation: ZERO.

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