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Friday, April 03, 2015

Dev vs dev

Another one for the "SJWs always lie" book. For some reason, an Ubisoft creative director, self-identified SJW, and anti-GG game designer decided to comment on the fact that Mark Kern, another game designer, had retweeted one of my tweets, the one about American McGee:
Palle Hoffstein @Palle_Hoffstein
So Mark Kern is getting chummy with Vox Day? I suppose it was only a matter of time.

University Watch ‏@UniversityWatc1
@Palle_Hoffstein So if you are going to say spiteful things about @voxday & @Grummz #Sayittotheirface Palle #GamerGate
 
Palle Hoffstein ‏@Palle_Hoffstein
I have spoken to them many times. Settle down.

Vox Day ‏@voxday
When have you ever spoken to me? I am afraid I don't recall.

Palle Hoffstein ‏@Palle_Hoffstein
Twitter. A while a ago. Not that memorable for me either.

Vox Day ‏@voxday
So once on Twitter is "many times"? Look, if you've got criticism, that's fine. The line is over there.

Palle Hoffstein ‏@Palle_Hoffstein
I wasn't the one who tagged you. I was talking about Kern. If I feel the need I will address you directly, I assure you.

Vox Day ‏@voxday
No, you were talking about me. And you have not talked to me many times. So you've lied and now tried to dissemble. Why?

Palle Hoffstein ‏@Palle_Hoffstein
Look Vox. I didn't tag you. I didn't want to talk to you. I can't imagine anyone ever wants to talk to you. Buzz off.

Vox Day ‏@voxday
No, you wanted to talk ABOUT me. I would think as a game designer, you would get how this "social media" thing operates.
My favorite part is the way he shamelessly contradicts himself in a futile attempt to claim the status high ground. First he claims we've spoken "many times", then after it's clear that I don't recall ever speaking to him, he tries to claim the one time we did communicate was "not that memorable" for him either.

The funny thing is, I did initially stop and wrack my brain to figure out if I knew him, because I do know several people at Ubisoft in Europe at the higher levels. But what can you do? Gammas gonna gamma. Even very smart ones with very impressive jobs can't surmount their socio-sexual instincts when pressed.

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54 Comments:

Anonymous Daniel April 03, 2015 2:01 PM  

Do gammas tie their tongues to the hamster wheel or what?

Pencilnecks ought to know that is hazardous to their spinal health.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan April 03, 2015 2:04 PM  

Maybe he should invoke Rule: Trigger Warnings?

Blogger darkdoc April 03, 2015 2:05 PM  

Palle Hoffstein @Palle_Hoffstein

(thinking to himself) Oh Shite, I've really stepped in it now - how small can I get???

Blogger John Wright April 03, 2015 2:13 PM  

What I do not understand is why people like this do simply speak the truth. When someone says, "Tell it to his face" one says, "I despise him, and do not wish to speak to him." "Have you ever spoken to him?" "No, nor do I wish to, thank you."

See? Simple. What does this "I've spoken to him many times" BS have to recommend it, that, "I hate him" lacks? Do they think it makes them look weak or something?

Anonymous jack April 03, 2015 2:16 PM  

If this person reads your blog it must have hurt when you mentioned knowing some of the higher ups at Ubisoft.
Palle reacts: Ouch, ouch, I got slammed. Someone, anyone help me here....

Anonymous NateM April 03, 2015 2:24 PM  

Well one benefit to this whole thing, the SJW's profile pictures always inspire me not to skip a workout, lest I look like one of their sorry selves

Blogger Noah B April 03, 2015 2:27 PM  

@John Wright

If he had admitted that he'd never spoken to Vox, the logical follow up question would be, "How do you know you despise him if you've never even spoken to him?" Leftists always have to tell another lie to cover up the previous lie.

Blogger Dave W. April 03, 2015 2:29 PM  

Who the hell is Palle Hoffstein?

He looks like Udo Dirkschneider with hair

Blogger AmyJ April 03, 2015 2:29 PM  

It seems they think that speaking to or interacting with VD gives them some sort of SJW street cred. As if going toe to toe with him via the internet is like being in the trenches. They slogged it out through the worst the "other side" has got and lived to tell about it.

How embarrassing for Palle.

Blogger Noah B April 03, 2015 2:31 PM  

Or to quote Weezer:

If you want to destroy my sweater
Hold this thread as I walk away
Watch me unravel, I'll soon be naked
Lying on the floor, lying on the floor
I've come undone

Blogger S1AL April 03, 2015 2:49 PM  

John Wright - Admitting to that would rob them of the ability to play the "tolerance" card.

Blogger Giraffe April 03, 2015 2:50 PM  

More SJW lying:
https://twitter.com/TacticalDissent/status/584056230039031808

Mamalogues is on it:
https://twitter.com/DLoesch/status/584064282578399233/photo/1

Another lying reporter. Will she get fired? My money's on no, since she is a she.

Anonymous kfg April 03, 2015 2:50 PM  

I like the way he tries to look fierce by posing with a paper tiger.

Blogger Cataline Sergius April 03, 2015 2:52 PM  

I'm surprised he didn't site the 144 character limit. Not a very creative Gamma at that.

OpenID cailcorishev April 03, 2015 2:54 PM  

That's a man? Are you sure? Just going by the wording, I never considered the possibility it wasn't a woman, until you said otherwise.

When you catch your five-year-old with a mouthful of cookie crumbs and he claims he didn't take a cookie, that is when he's supposed to learn, A) don't lie; B) especially don't tell stupid, easily-proven lies; and C) when caught in a stupid lie, admit it, take your punishment, and move on as quickly as possible.

How is it they never learned things like this?

Blogger John Wright April 03, 2015 3:04 PM  

@ Noah B

I don't know where I fit on Vox Day's psychosexual hierarchy, since I am a happily married man, and before that, I was a flop with chicks. I've been that way since 1966. So I suspect my rank is so low that I am colorblind to whatever it is this hierarchy is based on.

I simply cannot understand what the prize is for which these so called Gamma Males strive. Who are they trying to impress? Who thinks of them as actually tolerant or actually honest?

Are they trying to impress men like me? Then let them discover what impresses men like me, what things I and mine admire (trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean and reverent) and practice those virtues.

@S1AL

Sorry, I am slow of wit. I still do not get it.

Look, I have never spoken to Mao or Che or Stalin, but I hate all three gentleman as I hate the pit of Hell.

"I trust the judgment of my peers, and they condemn him, and out of loyalty to them, I join them in that condemnation"

Is this -- which would be honest and dignified -- for some reason out of the question for the Gamma Males? Do they not place a high value on group loyalty? I thought that was the be all and end all of the collectivists.

Anonymous Salt April 03, 2015 3:06 PM  

Vox, never knew you were so chummy with McRapey, having retweeted him on numerous occassions.

Blogger Guitar Man April 03, 2015 3:23 PM  

I thought Palle Hoffstein was a chick. Not being familiar with the name.

Anonymous kfg April 03, 2015 3:30 PM  

@Guitar Man It's a lot of hemming and bilge.

Blogger Vox April 03, 2015 3:34 PM  

I simply cannot understand what the prize is for which these so called Gamma Males strive. Who are they trying to impress? Who thinks of them as actually tolerant or actually honest?

In-group status. Others in the group to which they want to belong. Nobody but themselves in their Gamma Delusion Bubble. Believe it or not, they think of themselves as paragons of rectitude and honesty, whose knightly ways are irresistibly attractive to the woman who is not bamboozled and beguiled by those evil higher status jerks.

So I suspect my rank is so low that I am colorblind to whatever it is this hierarchy is based on.

It's a socio-sexual hierarchy. So, I suspect that your strength of purpose, loyalty, and rectitude (Alpha, Delta, and Delta traits, respectively) balance your romanticism, historical lack of success with the chicks, and tendency to pedestalize women (Gamma traits). Overall, Delta, because you cannot be considered a Gamma without the primary Gamma trait, which is a propensity to lie to yourself and others.

If you recall Chris Gerrib, he is a textbook Gamma. John Scalzi is also a fine example. SJW men tend to be Gammas due to the incessant dishonesty and double-think required.

Blogger HalibetLector April 03, 2015 3:49 PM  

@John Wright

What does this "I've spoken to him many times" BS have to recommend it, that, "I hate him" lacks?

My theory is they lie out of habit. The more you do something, the more it reinforces the neural pathways in your brain until you no longer have to think about it. If you do nothing but lie all the time, soon it becomes the first thing you reach for. Telling the truth then requires effort while the lie is effortless.

Anonymous Anonymous April 03, 2015 3:56 PM  

I still do not understand socio-sexual hierarchy, isn't Gamma higher than Delta?

Anonymous kfg April 03, 2015 4:00 PM  

The Socio-sexual Hierarchy

Blogger Cataline Sergius April 03, 2015 4:24 PM  

@John C. Wright

My advice is to create your own rank with in the hierarchy.

Omicron Male is available.

Sort of a high status shaman.

Anonymous MrGreenMan April 03, 2015 4:43 PM  

I like scanning to the bottom of the old Socio-Sexual Hierarchy post, because it always rewards:

The latest installment lets us see the Gamma in action - personal definitions, absolutely sure in himself, pretending to call for a debate - but not emailing you, not responding to a live post, but responding below all the spam posts so he can win in his own mind.

Blogger The Deuce April 03, 2015 4:45 PM  

By the way, Vox, he was lying his ass off about having ever talked with you on Twitter, as I just proved in this thread: https://twitter.com/ibbibby/status/584093188505276416

Blogger MidKnight April 03, 2015 4:49 PM  

@Halibetlector

My theory is they lie out of habit. The more you do something, the more it reinforces the neural pathways in your brain until you no longer have to think about it.

Habit - and posturing. I've spoken to the boogieman, and survived! See! I too fight the boogieman!

Anonymous jack April 03, 2015 5:04 PM  

@HalibetLector April 03, 2015 3:49 PM

Interesting observation about the hardening of neural pathways from habit. If you want a great SF story based on such try The Ethics of Madness by Larry Niven. Its in his anthology Neutron Star. I was turned on to Neutron Star by a reference John C. Wright made on, I think, his blog or here. I have read all but one of the novellas/short stories; all were excellent. I am trying my darnedest to hold out on the last one 'Grendel' for a time but am losing the battle. Mourning for the end of the anthology has already started.

Blogger S1AL April 03, 2015 5:17 PM  

"Is this -- which would be honest and dignified -- for some reason out of the question for the Gamma Males? Do they not place a high value on group loyalty? I thought that was the be all and end all of the collectivists."

This is why so many of them publicly slander and insult Vox based on falsehoods. That is where the collectivist bit appears.

Simultaneously, leftists make a great show of "tolerance," and thus it is considered virtuous to "interact" with even such a vile, loathsome animal as Vox. By claiming to have spoken with him "many times," this fellow is attempting to demonstrate both the extreme level of tolerance that he possesses *and* head off any accusations that he is ignorant on the subject ("ignorance" being another leftist cardinal sin).

And thus the response of "who are you?" Is particularly well-played, as it purports that the soaker is irrelevant, dishonest, or both.

As for the socio-serial hierarchy, it's of little matter to many men, who seek foremost the simple happiness of an honest life. I find it interesting mostly for the sake of how it applies to life in various circumstances and the contextual nature of the various ranks.

Anonymous Toz April 03, 2015 5:26 PM  

> Is this -- which would be honest and dignified -- for some reason out of the question for the Gamma Males? Do they not place a high value on group loyalty? I thought that was the be all and end all of the collectivists.

He was just challenged to "tell it to his face". By saying he already had engaged vox, he can get the credit of having had "told it to his face" without the actual confrontation.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit April 03, 2015 5:32 PM  

I simply cannot understand what the prize is for which these so called Gamma Males strive. Who are they trying to impress? Who thinks of them as actually tolerant or actually honest?

Let me introduce you to Airport's Law, one of the more humorous truisms to come out of #GamerGate which explains the phenomena of "White Knighting"

"Every day another goony beard-man gets the impression that a rainbow haired she-twink might let him cum in her if he attacks #Gamergate"

Anonymous Scintan April 03, 2015 5:52 PM  

So Palle Hoffstein is a racist and a liar?

Anonymous BigGaySteve April 03, 2015 5:52 PM  

CBS social media expert caught admitting to fraudulent report of fraud on twitter, cries when people list her work place.
http://twitchy.com/2015/04/03/can-we-get-an-amen-this-tweeters-response-to-whiny-hack-alix-bryan-is-the-best/

Anonymous BigGaySteve April 03, 2015 5:53 PM  

The fraudulent report on fraud was for the gofundme page for the pizza place that wont serve gay weddings.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan April 03, 2015 6:10 PM  

Spewing the right rhetoric gets them into the rabbit herd, it is why they are extremely worried about answering any questions, they might flub the cult's shit test in some way.

Its is all nothing but shallow rhetoric, none of them are worth a damn in anyway whatsoever.

And this Palle Hofstein whatever is yet another racial theorist crackpot on the left working for some game company that needs to look into his racism, yes I said it he might be a racist for all we know. What evil lurks in that male?

Blogger James Dixon April 03, 2015 6:11 PM  

> The fraudulent report on fraud was for the gofundme page for the pizza place that wont serve gay weddings.

Which has apparently been a notable success. Hopefully enough to fund their retirement by the time all is said and done.

Blogger Dave W. April 03, 2015 6:24 PM  

That part of Ubisoft Europe must be a genuine joy to work at. /sarc

Blogger Mr.MantraMan April 03, 2015 6:26 PM  

And the rhetoric of the propaganda is emotionally tinged for the emotionally disturbed, look at the left's unhinged propaganda and what it does to who. The latest is the gayganda, which let us admit gays hit the jackpot for emotional disturbance, so why not create some simple minded propaganda which borders on sadism and provokes it. Blacks, yet another simple minded group as taken as a whole, easily whipped into hysteria.

Point being is that this Palle gamma is yet another emotionally, mentally and maybe physically damaged person easily dragged into some cult which will give him moral standing.

Where would he be centuries ago except maybe face down into the pillow and utterly humiliated in life.

Blogger Vox April 03, 2015 6:46 PM  

By the way, Vox, he was lying his ass off about having ever talked with you on Twitter, as I just proved in this thread: https://twitter.com/ibbibby/status/584093188505276416

The lesson, as always, is this: SJWs always lie. Crazy. Nice work.

Anonymous kfg April 03, 2015 7:47 PM  

There's no need for all that, Palle. If you wanted to get acquainted why didn't you just say so?

Anonymous Ain April 03, 2015 7:57 PM  

""Every day another goony beard-man gets the impression that a rainbow haired she-twink might let him cum in her if he attacks #Gamergate"

That really gets to the heart of it, doesn't it?

Anonymous Steve April 03, 2015 8:05 PM  

Very catty of Pale Hoffstein. I don't use Twitter, but from what I understand, his original message is something called "subtweeting", which is the digital equivalent of mean girls bitching behind other kids' backs in the school cafeteria.

Anonymous Anonymous April 03, 2015 8:07 PM  

Vox, he could very well have spoken to you many times. Under a pseudonym ; on your blog. He could not admit it, of course.

Anonymous Steve April 03, 2015 8:40 PM  

BTW, I wonder if the safety and echo-chamber effect of social media has created a "SJW bubble" or "gamma bubble".

All these dweeby, doughy little men become tough guys ("Buzz off!") when behind a smartphone. Number of times Pale Hoffstein has found the testicular fortitude to tell another man "buzz off" to his face? I'm going to guess zero.

SJW types have a structural advantage on social media:

They are time-rich (more likely to be incels or childless and unemployed or in some vague bullshit public sector, academic or "creative" job where they're not expected to produce much).

Twitter lends itself to simple slogans, which works well for people who think in simplistic cliches #yesallwomen #bringbackourballs

Rainbow haired she-twinks (love that phrase) and their pudgy male orbiters are emotionally suited to communication platforms based on gossip, emoting, and competitive drama.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus April 03, 2015 8:53 PM  

The Deuce wins this thread.

Anonymous Jack Amok April 03, 2015 9:19 PM  

Is this -- which would be honest and dignified -- for some reason out of the question for the Gamma Males? Do they not place a high value on group loyalty? I thought that was the be all and end all of the collectivists.

Group loyalty? No. They don't have that virtue. Rabbits are not loyal to the group. When the wolves attack, each rabbit hopes the wolf will be slowed down eating another rabbit. They aren't collectivists because they love the group. They are collectivists because the group gives them cover to indulge their vices and an opportunity to socialize costs.

Betas/Deltas/Omegas are the ones with group loyalty. Alphas too, though it's a more abstract concept with them (loyalty to the group, but the individual members may well be expendable).

Anonymous BigGaySteve April 03, 2015 9:30 PM  

"They are collectivists because the group gives them cover to indulge their vices and an opportunity to socialize costs. "

Reminds me of the phrase "live somewhere where your vices are beneath the notice of police"

Anonymous kfg April 03, 2015 9:40 PM  

And you don't lock your house/car/bike to it make impossible for someone to steal from you. You do it to make it easier to steal from someone else.

Anonymous BlackBox99 April 03, 2015 10:58 PM  

SJW behavior never ceases to baffle me. Why should this guy GAF about Vox? Or gamer gate? Or any of the inane stuff on his twitter feed?

I just marvel at the level of privelege and indolence it must take to indulge in the SJW lifestyle. While normal people have to scrape by, have responsibilities to families and communities, SJWs have all the time and freedom in the world to worry about crap that in no way affects them. Must be nice.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus April 04, 2015 12:09 AM  

Think of them as drones programmed by others. They have verbal instruction sets, and that's about it.

Anonymous Ain April 04, 2015 12:32 AM  

Anonymous: "Vox, he could very well have spoken to you many times. Under a pseudonym ; on your blog. He could not admit it, of course."

Sock puppeteering wouldn't be any better.

Anonymous Stilicho April 04, 2015 2:06 AM  

@jack re: neutron star-enjoy it... there's a ton of niven stories and books set in that universe. I envy you reading them for the first time.

Anonymous Giuseppe April 04, 2015 9:54 AM  

Vox,
you know... even if you really were some inbred, full-on white supremacist redneck related to Thordaddy, these kind of interactions with SJWs alone would still make me think, you know...everyone has some issues, he's not so bad after all. Heh.

But seeing as you are a very mixed breed of Red Indian, spic/Mexican, and undetermined Euros, I can honestly say that in the coming wars, by which we will hopefully be old enough not to care too much either way, I'd be happy to share a foxhole with you as we laugh at the very IDEA of retreat, while firing happily at the enemy. And secretly hoping that when we run out of ammo we can see who wins at the scoping contest.

Anonymous Giuseppe April 04, 2015 11:19 AM  

scalping contest - damn PC autocorrect

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