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Thursday, April 02, 2015

Fred on the US disintegration

I find it mildly ironic that the inevitable result of all this immigration and forced integration is political disintegration. Fred Reed observes the increasing irrelevance of Federal law and reaches some familiar conclusions:
In the past the rock-solid unity of the United States existed because people wanted it. The foundation was a largely uniform white, Christian, European culture which no one thought about because there was no reason to think about it. Minorities were minor enough that they had to conform to the dominant culture. People shared ideas of morality, education, crime, music, religion, dress, manners, and patriotism.

That unity is gone forever. The old, functioning system has been replaced, not by another functioning system, such as that of Japan, China, or Korea, but by civilizational chaos. A law of human behavior is that people want to live among people like themselves. Another is that they do not like being ruled from afar by people they detest. Who likes Washington today?

Another possibility of secession lies in the South. Mississippi, the darkest state, is thirty-seven percent black. Although we are not permitted to say it, the racial hostility of blacks toward whites is intense. While whites will (now, anyway) vote for a black candidate over a white—which is how we got Obama—blacks vote as a bloc for black candidates. (If memory serves, Obama got 93% of the black vote.)

Should the black percentage in Mississippi grow to a tipping point, then, when whites bail out (which is usually what happens though we are not supposed to say this either), the state would become a self-governing country within a country—dependent on federal subsidies, yes, but having no loyalty to or culture in common with white society. It would not, methinks, feel an urgent need to obey federal laws.

Tell me I’m crazy. But wait twenty years.
Twenty years is 2035. Long time readers will recall that I have long predicted 2033 to mark the point at which the collapse of the USA as a political entity becomes undeniable.

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169 Comments:

Blogger Nate April 02, 2015 8:12 AM  

Fred should go to Mississippi.

Saying blacks will take over Mississippi is like saying Mexicans will take over Texas.

Mississippi blacks aren't the same as Chicago blacks.

Anonymous Cash April 02, 2015 8:22 AM  

@Nate

I tend to agree. BUT IF things don't change to much and something causes a lot of the young whites to start leaving en mass then blacks would win just by showing up to vote. I don't think it will happen because something will change before that happens but it is possible. What if the dyed in the wool Southern Whites in Mississippi say "screw it" and move to Alabama? Possible, especially with the young.

Anonymous Salt April 02, 2015 8:31 AM  

Mississippi, the darkest state, is thirty-seven percent black. Although we are not permitted to say it, the racial hostility of blacks toward whites is intense.

Bring in more Mexicans.

Anonymous Hunsdon April 02, 2015 8:34 AM  

Fred is one of the guys I'd like to sit around with, drinking Padre Kino red and solving the world's problems.

Blogger James Jones April 02, 2015 8:35 AM  

Great piece by Fred. Good to see you and him are on the same page when it comes to US cultural collapse. Although scarey.

Anonymous earl April 02, 2015 8:37 AM  

Maybe instead of secession they'll get reservations and be put on the DOI dole.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler April 02, 2015 8:38 AM  

"Civilizational chaos" is an oxymoron. The civilization IS GONE! America is a failed state. Fred is right though. Culture and civilization require at their basis UNITY. Unity is what all the Ilk disliked in Sparta and called her totalitarian. Tell, me does Libertarianism fix this cultural and civilizational dysfunction?

No. Only a Monarch would that could force change. What you need is a coup d'état with the military leader becoming a Monarch and then enforcing change. But our whole military is ran through with Political Correctness, Cultural Marxism, Masonry and mostly they have no training in civilization or culture or philosophy unlike Generalissimo Franco. This is whole story is about the getting rid of your Monarchs which is the sovereignty of the race is located in. In leadership, you need vision but you also need knowledge of one's roots, traditions and customs and then the Courage to protect them ....and enforce them.

European civilization is gone replaced with Judeo-Masonic-Bolshevism. The Elites will continue to force feed the demographic change of America. Just Today, Drudge reported that DHS Launches "Family Reunification" Refugee program for Central Americans where they will fly family members for free from their homes in Central America to be with their relatives here in America on our dime. There is nothing we can do. The Churches, Catholic and Protestant are stabbing us in the back. There is a Methodist Church here in Battle Creek that is helping hundreds of Burmese to settle here every year.

The civilization is gone; the culture is gone, the rule of law is gone; the constitution is dead; and there is no social cohesion whatsoever. Look how many White men, including myself, staying home on voting day? It ain't worth it.

Anonymous Anonymous April 02, 2015 8:55 AM  

2033? In a way, I wish it would be sooner! Not that I want the pain that'll come with it, but sometimes, it's better to bite the bullet and get it over with!

Regards,
David Smith

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus April 02, 2015 9:04 AM  

"Unless Washington does something dramatic and soon, the states will learn that they can simply ignore the feds."

Whites have special problems in this respect. The obvious one is that the dominant insular minority consists of extremely intelligent, aggressive, active, passionately intense anti-whites, who surveil whites in a way they do not surveil non-whites, and who would see (for example) ignoring Civil Rights as the "KILL!" signal. For whites the exit from destructive federal over-supervision is closed on every issue that counts.

The other problem is that whites, if allowed, produce much more material abundance than other races. When you look at occupations, whites are massively over-represented in jobs that are hard work and make things go. What this means is that states, such as the federal apparatus, have a special interest in the control of whites and in maximum resource extraction from them. This is true whoever owns the state: controlling blacks and mestizos in order to fund big government with the wealth they can generate if squeezed hard is not the issue; keeping a tight grip on Whitey's neck is.

We can see from the South African scenario, which is largely what the United States of America is headed for, that in the long run oppressed people of color won't refrain from choking to death the goose that lays the golden eggs.

We are on a conveyor belt to collective death. I think we will get out of it, but for that we need a break that ultimately has to come from outside the system. (And then we need to take advantage of it, which only those with the right ideas in their heads can do.)

Bottom line: if you believe in prayer, pray.

Anonymous Dr. J April 02, 2015 9:05 AM  

Mississippi blacks aren't the same as Chicago blacks.

What about Birmingham and Atlanta blacks? Both cities are heading in exactly the direction Fred predicts, only on a regional level. Atlanta and the surrounding metro look like a white-powdered chocolate filled donut in cross section. Fred's prediction is white flight writ large.

Look man - I love the south too, but the notion that southern blacks are all that different from northern blacks is a few decades out of date. Especially considering that the great migration brought a large number of southern blacks into the north. In residency, I saw the same knife and gun club in Milwaukee as I had in Atlanta.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey April 02, 2015 9:05 AM  

Bring it on.

Hopefully there will be civil war.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey April 02, 2015 9:10 AM  

Bottom line: if you believe in prayer, pray.

Yes. I pray for war every day.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan April 02, 2015 9:13 AM  

I agree with Wheeler, the collapse is in the rear view mirror

Blogger Kurt April 02, 2015 9:14 AM  

I think it will be sooner, when the current IMF$ system collapses and the dollar loses its reserve currency status, that will be the beginning of the end

Blogger CM April 02, 2015 9:14 AM  

2033? In a way, I wish it would be sooner! Not that I want the pain that'll come with it, but sometimes, it's better to bite the bullet and get it over with!

David, agreed. I'd rather get through it now and let my kids build the new land than try to figure out how to raise fighters for their upcoming war.

It's hard to teach it when it's mostly foreign to you.

Blogger Josh April 02, 2015 9:26 AM  

What if the dyed in the wool Southern Whites in Mississippi say "screw it" and move to Alabama? Possible, especially with the young.

That's not how Mississippi works.

Anonymous patriot April 02, 2015 9:30 AM  

when Civil War 2 happens, I'm gonna frag the Wheelers on our side.

OpenID cailcorishev April 02, 2015 9:33 AM  

Where Fred misses the mark a bit (and I think what Nate's objecting to) is when he claims that Southern blacks hate whites, and that is going to drive white flight. Hate really isn't necessary; just whites being whites and blacks being blacks tends to create segregation, as Dr. J. points out has already been happening in the cities. If the races aren't actively integrated, culturally and legally, voluntary segregation seems likely to continue. Not because blacks hate whites and whites are catching on, but because the people with the wherewithal to relocate will be happier that way.

Just look at all the liberal/moderate parents who think racism is the worst sin possible, who honestly like the blacks they meet at the office and truly believe that race is only skin deep and any indication otherwise can be blamed on "legacy of slavery" -- but as soon as they have kids, they find the whitest school they can afford. They don't hate blacks, they don't hold blacks personally responsible for their behavior, they don't think blacks hate whites any more than whites deserve, but they don't want to live closely with them.

Blogger David April 02, 2015 9:37 AM  

Fred writes (and thinks) from Guadalajara. It's a bias.

He thinks future borders will be defined by votes. I strongly suspect it will be a far less peaceful means.

Normalcy Bias (and trend-following) are blinding us to the future (as always.) We look at the relative calm of the past 140 years and project this forever into the future. This is the Dominant Narrative, and it is nigh impossible for most to imagine the rise of an alternate narrative, one that is an inversion of today's.

What if the new Dominant Narrative is a throwback to extreme levels of inter-group distrust? What if Caucasians (& Asians, who in the USA are much alike in production and trade) decide first that they don't want to live near or associate with those who don't look similar? What if second, they decide that those they "don't like or trust" are hogging really important lands or resources?

Think a Meso-American voting block in CA will survive a wave of unadulterated ethnic cleansing, even if that block first captured all government offices and effectively seceded from the lower 48?

The old Narrative is dying. What replaces it will be very different, and such events are far from improbable.

Anonymous Salt April 02, 2015 9:41 AM  

As Fred states, people want to live amongst people of like kind. That's nothing new to anyone here. What is not known is where these areas of like kind shall develop. I see the territorial contests as dynamic and therefore, violent.

Vox may well be right that 2033 is when it becomes undeniable. Doesn't mean it won't start within the next few years as the economy keeps sliding. In parts of the country it's already begun.

Anonymous Quartermaster April 02, 2015 9:45 AM  

We are already at the point where it is undeniable by anyone that has eyes to see. Even Ted Kennedy said it would fall apart soon after he denied, and the process is accelerating.

Blogger David April 02, 2015 9:48 AM  

The Old Narrative: "We are the World," where all people cluster into one vast social group, held together with Scotch tape and chewing gum. SJW's think this is the path to Utopia and have pumped this Narrative for all they're worth, sowing the seeds of violence and rage via things like Section 8.

The coming Narrative: "We trust ONLY our own." In this environment, the earlier single social cluster breaks to pieces and scatters across the X and Y coordinates and separate, antagonistic loci of tribes, races and social strata arise. These new bastions are fortified (out of fear and distrust of the others) and their cohesion level (the Z axis) rises with every anecdote of violence inflicted from other out-groups.

Some groups (inner city blacks) are already apart from today's muddy middle and are actively sending out skirmishers to attack unfortified, vulnerable settlements of groups with whom they have conflict. Those groups have yet to realize the war is already in play.

Social mood has bumped along the ceiling for 20 years as the "fundamentals" of cohesion have drained away. When this inevitably rolls over and social mood plunges (the barometers of stock indices and bond markets will plainly reveal this), watch for this new narrative of distrust, fear and ultimately loathing to change our experience in its entirety.

Anonymous Salt April 02, 2015 9:52 AM  

California now issues driver’s licenses to illegals. The police are not allowed to ask about status of immigration. There is talk of allowing illegals to vote in municipal elections, which will speed Mexicanization. These and similar measures come close to making them citizens of California, while not of America.

This is being done away with. 14th amendment.

1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

Perhaps the uSA might yet return to a closer approximation of its designers.

Blogger hank.jim April 02, 2015 9:52 AM  

Mississippi is a red state with a White Repubican Govenor. Illinois turned Republican too. Not sure what the point of the article.

Blogger Josh April 02, 2015 9:54 AM  

Not sure what the point of the article.

Did you read the whole thing?

Anonymous Sensei April 02, 2015 9:55 AM  

That's not how Mississippi works.

Seconded. Nor many parts of Alabama.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus April 02, 2015 9:55 AM  

Salt: "As Fred states, people want to live amongst people of like kind."

That's not really true though.

If Jews had all made aliyah, there would exist no grievances except the purely historical. But multitudes of them must feast on a host. A host against which, collectively, they nurse the bitterest grievances.

Muslims of various sorts like to move into our lands and exploit us too. Tommy Hass isn't determined to go back to the old land and live among his own kind. The Rotherham rapists wouldn't have had white girls to terrorize and rape if they had stayed among their own kind.

Blacks also move into the beautiful cities whites create, like Detroit...

We whites like to live among our own kind, for good reason. Sheep like the company of sheep, but wolves and other predators mingle with sheep every chance they get. This, when enforced by the state, is called multiculturalism.

Blogger David April 02, 2015 9:56 AM  

Wheeler's solution: We need a Stalin, or a Pinochet.

Given that Boobus Americanus distrusts the political realm (he hates every politician save his own) but still respects the Pentagram (which obtains all the trust a multi-billion dollar advertizing budget can buy), in a full-out crisis it is entirely likely that the USA will suffer a military coup.

Of course, anyone who thinks the generals and admirals, whose entire adult experience is in a centrally-planned, dog-like-obedient hierarchy, are apt to succeed in reestablishing a prosperous (market) economy might wish to check his premises (to quote Rand.)

Anonymous fish April 02, 2015 9:57 AM  

Semi OT: Brand new heart and still a criminal dickhead!

http://news.yahoo.com/teen-got-heart-transplant-dies-crash-during-chase-215436883.html

To quote Chris Rock......"I guess that's just how you was raised!"

Blogger darkdoc April 02, 2015 10:02 AM  

Kurt has the right idea about reserve currency status.

Does a loss of reserve status happen slowly or quickly?

When it happens, the US no longer exports inflation, borrowing at low rates (to care and feed the masses) can disappear, currency exchange rates matter, much less looking for cheap labor outside the borders, and assumed trust and confidence is much harder to find. The politicians have no experience in managing monetary and fiscal policy with these restrictions. The bankers will be toast. Everything is affected, including the military (a reason the rest of the world spends so much less on defense budgets).

The world outside the US is actively working for this.

Blogger Nate April 02, 2015 10:02 AM  

When the war happens... it will have nothing to do with blacks in the south.

It will have everything to do with liberal whites in DC.

Blogger Josh April 02, 2015 10:03 AM  

We whites like to live among our own kind, for good reason.

The phenomena of snow birds, massholes, the California diaspora, etc indicates otherwise.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus April 02, 2015 10:04 AM  

People of an un-aggresive nature think: "we'd all be happier living in our own lands, among our own kind'.

The Mongols think differently, and here they come!

Anonymous Salt April 02, 2015 10:04 AM  

Salt: "As Fred states, people want to live amongst people of like kind."

That's not really true though.

[yada yada]

We whites like to live among our own kind, for good reason.


Well, which is it?

Blogger Josh April 02, 2015 10:06 AM  

[yada yada]

But was it yada yada sex?

Blogger hank.jim April 02, 2015 10:07 AM  

How do you do both? Rely on Federal subsidies and not obey Federal law.

Anonymous Hoppes #9 April 02, 2015 10:10 AM  

The only real possible unity among races, ethnicities, and gender is in Jesus Christ (Not churchianity or liberation theologies which follow another christ). Multiculturalism is the counterfeit of Christian unity and like all of the counterfeit versions of the plan of God, it is doomed to bloody failure. Ironically the authors of multiculturalism are the same folks who are active in stamping out Christianity—the only possible means to their “goal”.

OpenID simplytimothy April 02, 2015 10:12 AM  

I think it will be sooner, when the current IMF$ system collapses and the dollar loses its reserve currency status, that will be the beginning of the end

Which, according to this guy is scheduled for this October when the SDR basket weights are re-computed and January 1 when the new weights take effect.

To add to the festivities, the debt-ceiling limit in the U.S. is this October.


Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus April 02, 2015 10:13 AM  

Salt, that is silly. You wrote as though it was clever to say [yada yada] and pretend not to notice that not all people are white.

Blogger Nate April 02, 2015 10:13 AM  

Hank.Jim..... isn't there a youtube video you should be commenting on?

Anonymous rho April 02, 2015 10:14 AM  

Mississippi is utterly rural. Even the nominally urban parts are rural. Rural whites and blacks are not the same as whites and blacks in the cities.

There are plenty of shenanigans going on in Mississippi, but it's not the tip of the spear for a secession movement. Nor is it the tinderbox for a race war.

Alabama and Mississippi are damn fine places to live, if you can manage the heat and humidity.

Anonymous Salt April 02, 2015 10:15 AM  

How do you do both? Rely on Federal subsidies and not obey Federal law.

Here's a for instance that happened: You post the speed limit at the federal mandate of 55, get the subsidy while enforcing at a much higher rate. Lasts for a while.

Anonymous JP April 02, 2015 10:20 AM  

OT: German pilot was on powerful anti-depressants that increase the risk of suicide....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3022650/Andreas-Lubitz-anti-anxiety-drug-strong-doctors-point-increased-risk-suicide.html

Lorazepam, making you feel great about your decision to kill yourself and everybody else in the vicinity!

Anonymous The other robot (robot robot robot) April 02, 2015 10:21 AM  

How will the new Chinese-dominated Asian Investment Bank affect things?

I suspect that the break-up will come sooner than expected ...

OpenID simplytimothy April 02, 2015 10:25 AM  

California now issues driver’s licenses to illegals. The police are not allowed to ask about status of immigration. There is talk of allowing illegals to vote in municipal elections, which will speed Mexicanization. These and similar measures come close to making them citizens of California, while not of America.

A CA drivers license is a valid ID with which to vote in California. There will be no talk of allowing voting, rather there will be voting and the marxist in the white house will fight any and all who disagree with it.

Anonymous BigGaySteve April 02, 2015 10:27 AM  

I fled a die verse city to a whiteopia & planted fruit/nut trees. While I usually like Lew Rockwell he was bleating against something important to this discussion the, Plan of San Diego. After Texas was liberated, some Mexicans decided to kill every white guy they could find, they got 21. While leftists might be smiling about that they will cry to know that the other sides losses have been estimated at over 1000. That seems consistant with the Copenhagen moslem firing 200 rounds and only killing one person who was not his target vs. Breivik.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/the-plan-of-san-diego-and-the-legacy-of-the-mexican-war/

OpenID cailcorishev April 02, 2015 10:28 AM  

That's not how Mississippi works.

The numbers seem to back you up on that. I wouldn't have guessed that, so I checked: the white population of Mississippi has actually grown in the last two decades (it's smaller as a percentage, but the total number of whites has grown. And that assumes no hanky-panky with the numbers, calling Hispanics whites some years -- this is Wikipedia). So whites aren't moving out of Mississippi on the whole, at least not yet. They're even moving in a little, or having the occasional Third.

Anonymous Salt April 02, 2015 10:28 AM  

Salt, that is silly. You wrote as though it was clever to say [yada yada] and pretend not to notice that not all people are white.

Idiot. The whole point is that America is no longer a white country, being foreignated. What's silly is you saying "That's not really true" as to Fred then doing some yada yada before turning around and agreeing with him, "We whites like to live among our own kind, for good reason."

I still want to know which is it?

Blogger Cogitans Iuvenis April 02, 2015 10:31 AM  

How will the new Chinese-dominated Asian Investment Bank affect things?

It really depends, there are other development banks besides the IMF though the IMF is the most powerful. Really how that, along with the rest of the world is going to play out, is up in the air. Though I have noticed a general theme across the various forums from different parts of the world is that the consensus is 'Not Good'.

Anonymous redsash April 02, 2015 10:35 AM  

From Adam to Abraham, 2000 years; or two of God's days according to the apostle Peter. From Abraham to Jesus, 2000 years. Jesus died, was resurrected, and the Church age began around 33 AD. 2033 in the year of our Lord seems about the correct time to enter an eternal Sabbath.

Anonymous The other robot (who can't dance) April 02, 2015 10:37 AM  

California now issues driver’s licenses to illegals.

A lot of the anti-gun legislation coming out in CA is from wetback politicians who want to disarm whites!

I expect them to keep trying.

Blogger Josh April 02, 2015 10:38 AM  

2033 in the year of our Lord seems about the correct time to enter an eternal Sabbath.

But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.

Anonymous BigGaySteve April 02, 2015 10:39 AM  

"Atlanta blacks are not like Chicago blacks"

Signs telling people where the nearest restroom don't work because of illiteracy so Atlanta had to spend $11million on urine detectors in public transportation. http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/marta-installs-urine-detection-systems-elevator/ncPgH/

Blogger Alexander April 02, 2015 10:43 AM  

I for one have to say this is one of the more light-hearted threads on this issue. It's always a hoot and a half when foreigners hypothesizes on what's going to happen to Southrons in Southron lands.

Mississippi going to be turned into Africa. How quaint. Mississippi once was majority black. They didn't end up on the top of the Mississippi social ladder then, they aren't going to do it with 37% either.

Blogger Nate April 02, 2015 10:44 AM  

Preach Alexander.

Blogger Nate April 02, 2015 10:44 AM  

what foreigners don't understand is that mississippi and alabama are already segregated.

Blogger Josh April 02, 2015 10:44 AM  

Signs telling people where the nearest restroom don't work because of illiteracy so Atlanta had to spend $11million on urine detectors in public transportation. http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/marta-installs-urine-detection-systems-elevator/ncPgH/

Huh. It wasn't uncommon for drunk college kids to urinate in elevators on a Friday or Saturday night. Guess they were illiterate.

Blogger Alexander April 02, 2015 10:48 AM  

Big Gay Steve,

We have quite literally walled black Atlanta in. The 75, 85, 285, and 20 strategically place black ghettos out of bounds of where everyone has to go. And unlike pansy ideas of a stationary 'fence', our wall includes many lanes of high moving metal. Let's see the amigo negro try and border cross outside the permitted locations.

Anonymous Salt April 02, 2015 10:50 AM  

It's going to cost MARTA about $10,000 to outfit each elevator with the urine detection device. This week, they also reopened restrooms at four stations, so they hope that will help with the problem.

Doh!

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus April 02, 2015 10:50 AM  

Alexander: "I for one have to say this is one of the more light-hearted threads on this issue."

Maybe the recent threads on warfare and rhetoric cleared the air a bit?

Blogger hank.jim April 02, 2015 10:50 AM  

"whites bail out"

The thing is whites bailed out of California. There could be a tipping point where they won't cut and run anymore. Bailing out hasn't happened in Arizona and Texas. Whites appear to be resisting illegal immigration. The California model is what the Democrats and Obama expects. There's no where Whites can run to. Maybe gentrification will bring back more Whites.

Nate. What's your problem?

Blogger David April 02, 2015 10:52 AM  

"amigo negro."

Not sure what it means, but laugh-out-loud hilarious anyway.

Blogger Josh April 02, 2015 10:52 AM  

The city of Atlanta has a population of 450m
The metropolitan area has a population of 5mm+

Blogger Alexander April 02, 2015 10:52 AM  

MARTA: Moving Africans Rapidly Through Atlanta.

Suffice it to say, operational bathrooms or no, this surprises nobody.

Blogger rondolf April 02, 2015 10:52 AM  

I agree Alexander. Illinois(where I live) will go to hell before mississippi. Gov. Rauner will futz around for 4 years because he is to much of a pussy to take on the unions and their benefits like Walker in WI did and another pandering white democrat will be gov, Chicago will fall into recievership, wealthy productive whites will continue leaving, blacks will continue demanding govt checks, and eventually the whites south of I-80 will demand secession.

Blogger Nate April 02, 2015 10:53 AM  

"Nate. What's your problem?"

My problem is... you say really spectacularly dumb things. So dumb in fact that we have side conversations on other sites about just how amazingly dumb the things you say are.

You're like an artist... creating masterpieces of ignorance on a canvas of stupid.

Anonymous Cinco April 02, 2015 10:54 AM  

In Atlanta right now.

All I can say is wow... I drove through a section of such uniqueness yesterday that I thought I was in Blackhawk Down.

Blogger Josh April 02, 2015 10:56 AM  

Atlanta is the home of murder Kroger

Blogger Nate April 02, 2015 10:57 AM  

'All I can say is wow... I drove through a section of such uniqueness yesterday that I thought I was in Blackhawk Down."

Yeah... when the next war comes... we've decided it go ahead and burn ATL first this time... because we don't expect the yankees to be able to.

Blogger hank.jim April 02, 2015 11:00 AM  

Nate: Really? Then I will do double. I wish you'll help me understand by answering my dumb questions. What the point of commenting if you already know the answers. Please continue to show your brilliance. I'll appreciate the education.

OpenID genericviews April 02, 2015 11:02 AM  

I would like to point out again, as it has been pointed out before multiple times, that since there are no interior borders in the USA, there is nothing stopping migration from the failing states into the winning states. Thus, we are not just talking about California, New Mexico and Texas. As those states fail, their populations will jump ship and go to Virginia, Tennessee, and Idaho. Just like they already are. Virginia is not becoming more liberal because we have seen the light and think socialism is wonderful. We are becomeing more liberal because all the liberals can't find jobs in NY, MD, DC, NJ, PA, and DE . So they come here. immigrants do the same thing. they follow the money. Virginia has PLENTY of Guatemalans, Salvedorians, Hondurans and moslems roaming the streets and driving taxi cabs. Who do you think empties the trash in all these government buildings? It isn't white English-speaking people.

Blogger Alexander April 02, 2015 11:03 AM  

Nate,

No two bricks together, scorched earth all the way to edge of Stone Mountain, directly underneath the carving?

Blogger Josh April 02, 2015 11:06 AM  

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Atlanta

Anonymous jack April 02, 2015 11:08 AM  

From all the above it might really be Atlas time per Ayn Rand.
As for Alabama; I live there and the visible presence of Hispanics has increased dramatically here in the middle/north of the state [Birmingham and rural]. This may be more coming in [probable] and/or more feeling comfortable being seen in public.

The long time resident Hispanics usually are hard working and we get along. Don't know about all the new comers. I don't think the long time Hispanics here know about them either.

Blogger Nate April 02, 2015 11:08 AM  

" I wish you'll help me understand by answering my dumb questions. "

Most of us got tired of listening to dumb people as dumb questions in kindergarten.

Anonymous zen0 April 02, 2015 11:09 AM  

OT but race relevant from Derbyshire:

Scientist & Race Realist fired by NYT after SJW hit piece

Blogger Nate April 02, 2015 11:10 AM  

"No two bricks together, scorched earth all the way to edge of Stone Mountain, directly underneath the carving? "

Co-signed.

Blogger Nate April 02, 2015 11:12 AM  

"s for Alabama; I live there and the visible presence of Hispanics has increased dramatically here in the middle/north of the state [Birmingham and rural]."

That is bizarre. Down here in south Alabama the mexican population simply disappeared... literally over night.

One night there were mexicans here... not many.. but high school football teams all had good kickers ya know? Then the next week... we looked around and even our beloved mexican restaurant had white waiters.

Wonder what's going on...

Anonymous Porky April 02, 2015 11:12 AM  

COLLAPSE.......COLLAPSE........COLLAPSE.........

Anonymous Porky April 02, 2015 11:15 AM  

Wonder what's going on...

"Honey, have you seen my white sheet?"

Blogger The Deuce April 02, 2015 11:15 AM  

Regarding US disintegration: Faster please!

Blogger Corvinus April 02, 2015 11:16 AM  

Fred apparently doesn't realize that native-born American blacks aren't increasing against non-Hispanic whites any more, except via population momentum, which won't be enough to tip Mississippi. It's unlikely that any Southern state, let alone any state, will go majority black -- or at least black American -- in the future. (African immigration is the wild card here, but aside from their race, the immigrants share little with black Americans.)

Anonymous Porky April 02, 2015 11:20 AM  

You're like an artist... creating masterpieces of ignorance on a canvas of stupid.

You talking about hank.jim or Fred?

Blogger hank.jim April 02, 2015 11:22 AM  

Succession seems to be what conservatives want to avoid the Feds. I can't see why Blacks that rely on Federal subsidies will want succession.

Blogger Josh April 02, 2015 11:23 AM  

Secession

Blogger hank.jim April 02, 2015 11:23 AM  

@Porky. You idiot. He's talking about me!!!

Blogger hank.jim April 02, 2015 11:25 AM  

secession

Blogger Alexander April 02, 2015 11:25 AM  

Heh. We can have the War of Spanish Secession.

Something about tragedy and farce...

Anonymous Porky April 02, 2015 11:28 AM  

hank.jim, I happen to think dumb questions are just fine.

If Fred would ask a few dumb questions he might not come off as such an ignorant moron.

Blogger rondolf April 02, 2015 11:29 AM  

Your right, blacks don't want there own country, just there own space to be as vibrant as they want to be. I say let them. Give them an allowance, let them elect their own tribal leaders, and stay away. Of course white people must then be allowed the same rights, which is why heavily majority white areas will at some point start seceding. then black people will start making war out right on whites. Then the fun begins.

Blogger David April 02, 2015 11:31 AM  

Today there are no internal border checkpoints between states.

Tomorrow, in a time of rapidly evolving fear and distrust, look for Prechter's forecast for the need for internal passports and permission-to-travel to come to fruition.

I read this blog as one among several means to assess the seeds of the "next" narrative. When paradigm shifts occur, it's not like a light switch, it's like a wave; there are leading elements that roll over first, and lagging elements that appear as before even as the front of the wave crests.

Political systems are the very last aspect to change. They never, ever lead.

"Armies cannot resist an idea whose time has come" is just as axiomatically true in reverse; "Armies cannot force acceptance of an idea whose time is yet to come."

We simply await what's next, act to prep for what seems most prudent to expect in the meantime and enjoy the ride.

Anonymous fish April 02, 2015 11:32 AM  

You're like an artist... creating masterpieces of ignorance on a canvas of stupid.

You talking about hank.jim or Fred?


It doesn't matter.....I'm starting a "Book of Nateisms"....that line will figure prominently.

Blogger Josh April 02, 2015 11:32 AM  

If Fred would ask a few dumb questions he might not come off as such an ignorant moron.

He's certainly ignorant about race in the south, which is strange given his Virginia background. I wouldn't consider him a moron, though.

Curious, what do you think are some of the questions he should ask?

Blogger Nate April 02, 2015 11:32 AM  

"Of course white people must then be allowed the same rights, which is why heavily majority white areas will at some point start seceding. then black people will start making war out right on whites."

You're describing exactly what already exists in places like Alabama and Mississippi.

And its existed for going on 100 years.

So why hasn't it already gone Pop?

When the war happens... the blacks in the south will be fighting along side the whites. Not against them.

Just like last time.

Of course the dumbass invaders didn't get it then either...

Blogger Josh April 02, 2015 11:33 AM  

Of course white people must then be allowed the same rights, which is why heavily majority white areas will at some point start seceding. then black people will start making war out right on whites. Then the fun begins.

Have you read any of the comments in the thread?

Blogger rondolf April 02, 2015 11:37 AM  

apparently not enough, responding to hank. sorry

Blogger JartStar April 02, 2015 11:42 AM  

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OpenID simplytimothy April 02, 2015 11:49 AM  

It doesn't matter.....I'm starting a "Book of Nateisms"....that line will figure prominently.

Make it a coffee table book and sell it on Castalia House, then, when I am in the kitchen mixing some sazeracs, if I hear snickers and chortles from the living room, I know to use the good booze. Then, if I hear, "you like glocks?" well...



Anonymous Porky April 02, 2015 11:56 AM  

I wouldn't consider him a moron, though.

Nor do I. But he comes off as one in this essay. It's as if he never heard of apartheid.

Curious, what do you think are some of the questions he should ask?

"Hey Pookie, what do you plan to do when you reach the majority? Gonna take over the gubmint?"

Anonymous Porky April 02, 2015 12:00 PM  

"Book of Nateisms"

pg. 121, "You know what's cool? ZZ Top! That's what's cool!"


Anonymous Porky April 02, 2015 12:04 PM  

...accompanying photo of shirtless Nate air drumming with a bottle opener and a spatula.

Blogger Doom April 02, 2015 12:06 PM  

Hmm? 2033? It is undeniable now. And there isn't a politician alive who is even offering options for anything else. I love you optimists, you are so cute when you take your hope so seriously. Don't change that.

Anonymous Jack Amok April 02, 2015 12:06 PM  

What Fred noticed is increasing lawlessness in America. Vibrants, being low-trust society types, only follow laws when they don't think they can break them without being punished. Liberals are more interested in intentions than results so they pass lots of laws that are difficult to enforce. Traditional whites will try to follow laws as best they can in order to build high-trust societies.

Put the three together an you've got an explosion of obnoxious laws that Mexicans simply ignore and traditional whites try and fail to observe. The end result is that people who try to follow the law are guaranteed two things - one, they will be at a competitive disadvantage to those who ignore it, and two, they'll eventually be punished anyway for making an honest mistake. Of course lawlessness will increase in that environment.

The underlying valid prediction Fred is making is that sooner or later, white folks who want to live in a high-trust society will take control at whatever scale they can. He seems to think Mexicans and Africans will too, but he seems to forget neither group has ever been very good at building high-trust societies. The chaos he describes isn't the result of multiculturalism, it's the world those people automaticaly create for themselves. On their own they won't suddenly get better, they'll get rapidly worse.

Anonymous rho April 02, 2015 12:06 PM  

accompanying photo of shirtless Nate...

Pass.

Anonymous Lana April 02, 2015 12:12 PM  

When the war happens... the blacks in the south will be fighting along side the whites. Not against them.

Anyone who doesn't understand why this is true needs to simply watch Season 3 of Justified. It's all laid out as plain as day for foreigners and yankees.

Anonymous Sigh April 02, 2015 12:16 PM  

The stupid is STRONG in this thread.

Blogger Jim April 02, 2015 12:17 PM  

America is now ruled by people who always want to be on the right side of history, and history is driven by entropy.

Anonymous Jack Amok April 02, 2015 12:20 PM  

As to California, Arizona or New Mexico (or Texas even) turning into Alta Mexico, that wouldn't stabilize anything. Mexicans cross the current border to gain access to prosperity. California used to be very, very prosperous. As it transforms in Mexifornia, it gets less and less prosperous. Tomorrow's Mexifornians will migrate out of California (or Arizona or New Mexido) into whatever white lands regain prosperity. Presumably in some future scenario, those lands will have learned their lesson and won't tolerate it, but it will keep happening because that's what Mexicans do. It's what they have done ever since there was a land border between anglo and hispanic nations.

So my prediction is that the most militant white shard of the former US will reconquer Alta Mexico (just like 1840) in order to shove the border farther south. Also because California is too valuable a real estate to stay in the hands of Mexico. It'll be taken from them sooner or later by somebody militarily more competent. China, Europe and Russia are just too far away. It'll be our grandkids.

Anonymous Musashi5000 April 02, 2015 12:25 PM  

The future is blood.
The only questions are whose and how much?

As sure as the world turns, war is coming...maybe several at once.

Blogger Nate April 02, 2015 12:37 PM  

"...accompanying photo of shirtless Nate air drumming with a bottle opener and a spatula."

Nate doesn't air drum. Nate drums.

Anonymous Porky April 02, 2015 12:48 PM  

"Nate doesn't air drum. Nate drums."

Pg. 137

Anonymous Porky April 02, 2015 12:51 PM  

...accompanying photo of Mullet Nate playing "Velcro Fly" at high school talent show.

Blogger Nate April 02, 2015 12:58 PM  

"...accompanying photo of Mullet Nate playing "Velcro Fly" at high school talent show."

actually during the high school talent show I was getting a bj behind the school... well... at least two of the years I was...

Blogger jay c April 02, 2015 12:58 PM  

shirtless w/ his awsome, extra-fabric in all the right places, American-made jeans.

OpenID simplytimothy April 02, 2015 1:30 PM  

"Nate doesn't air drum. Nate drums."

Pg. 137


simplytimothy dumps the sazceracs and breaks out the beer, guzzles one, smashed can on forehead and walks back to the living room...

Anonymous Cheddarman April 02, 2015 2:03 PM  

Nate,

20 years or so from now, when the South is more than likely an independent nation, Yankees will probably want to flee into southern territory from the cesspools up north. Individual Yankees might even beg to be admitted as indentured servants. Whole sections of Yankeeland may apply for protectorate status or asked to be annexed. West Virginia and the Appalachian counties of Southern Ohio have more in common culturally with Kentucky, Tennessee and Northern Georgia than they do with the New England states and the population clusters along the Great Lakes. I would assume it is the same for Southern Indiana and Southern Illinois. The North has no unifying culture. You Southrons will most likely have the last laugh regarding the war of Northern Aggression.

Anonymous redsash April 02, 2015 2:12 PM  

Josh, I did not choose an hour or a day for the collapse of life as we may presently know it. However, I would venture that Vox and I both arrived at 2033 through very different disciplines. If 2033 happens to be the year of, and I prefer judgment instead of collapse, it only remains to be determined whose rationale was the more rational.

Anonymous Alexander April 02, 2015 2:12 PM  

And if and when that happens, we must not take them in. Because when the barrier for entry is 'have more in common with Georgia than California or Massachusetts', what you have isn't the Confederacy, it's Red State land.

As Red State land has proven itself wholly ineffective at preventing the need for an independent CSA, it would be foolish to admit them in after the fact.

Friendship with the Midwest, or the Lower Great Lakes - sure. But full fledged membership requires a history of being the occupied, not the occupier.

And for carpetbaggers desperate to escape the People's Ghetto... thanks, but if we were that short on manpower, I'd rather keep the Mexican.

OpenID simplytimothy April 02, 2015 2:19 PM  

The successful resistance against gun-confiscation in CT, WA and CO shows me that this will be a rural/urban conflict.

Blogger Nate April 02, 2015 2:22 PM  


"And if and when that happens, we must not take them in. Because when the barrier for entry is 'have more in common with Georgia than California or Massachusetts', what you have isn't the Confederacy, it's Red State land."

Pretty simple. We post guards. We ask a simple question. "Do you put the sugar in when you brew the tea.. or after you serve it?"

Blogger Joshua Dyal April 02, 2015 2:29 PM  

Pretty simple. We post guards. We ask a simple question. "Do you put the sugar in when you brew the tea.. or after you serve it?"

I prefer that they give a description of a barbecue. If there is any mention of hot dogs or hamburgers, they get shot immediately.

Not that I don't love a good hamburger cook-out. Just don't call it a barbecue.

Blogger Alexander April 02, 2015 2:32 PM  

Or you know, these Yankee newcomers... we're gonna have some great real estate in Atlanta we could sell them...

Blogger Josh April 02, 2015 2:36 PM  

Or you know, these Yankee newcomers... we're gonna have some great real estate in Atlanta we could sell them...

It's a very vibrant and exciting neighborhood with lots of culture!

Anonymous beerme April 02, 2015 2:50 PM  

MARTA has all of the familiar smells of home!

Anonymous Alexander April 02, 2015 3:00 PM  

To be fair, despite the sights and the smells no one on MARTA has every done anything even remotely threatening in my vicinity. The same cannot be said for other centers of vibrancy.

Blogger Noah B April 02, 2015 3:18 PM  

"Do you put the sugar in when you brew the tea.. or after you serve it?"

Hopefully the answer is "neither." Nate are you in the Dothan area?

Blogger Nate April 02, 2015 3:29 PM  

"Hopefully the answer is "neither." Nate are you in the Dothan area?"

Nah... near the western border of florida

Blogger Shibes Meadow April 02, 2015 3:42 PM  

The Republic of Dixie (or whatever) should not accept requests from Northern states to join the Confederacy.

Instead, they should be colonized and exploited, just as the South was. Turnabout, etc.

Anonymous Cash April 02, 2015 4:15 PM  

Where I am (in the South), blacks are leaving the cities because young whites and investors are buying up the old houses in pre 1964 white neighborhoods, and old mill neighborhoods.

Mexicans are also moving in like crazy, mainly into the old near urban white flight neighborhoods. Those neighborhoods are becoming crap. It is a mixture of old white people (the nice houses with nice yards) their loser kids, Mexicans, and blacks.

And then we have the country side. As sad as it is to say a lot of it sucks out loud. Poor whites that came to work in small town mills out of the Appalachian Mountains in the 1920-40's, blacks who came to these areas for who the hell knows why, their was little slavery in the area on a large scale, and now Mexicans. The country side sucks, the Suburbs are risky due to the changing nature, the city is a mix bag. Great CBD but super poor areas and super rich areas. I honestly am starting to think my best bet is an up and coming neighborhood that is becoming more white with families and young couples.

Anonymous Cash April 02, 2015 4:29 PM  

@Nate

I haven't spent too much time in there but Guntersville seems like a great place I drove through while in Alabama. Beautiful vistas, lake with mountains, downtown looks nice but still pretty much country. Any insights?

OpenID cailcorishev April 02, 2015 4:35 PM  

Salt: "As Fred states, people want to live amongst people of like kind."

It's more complicated than that. Everyone wants to live among whites (with the possible exception of some insular Asians, maybe), especially among well-organized, peaceful, prosperous Northern European whites.

Whites seem to want to live in a society that's mostly white, but with a healthy ratio (a ratio that varies per individual) of other races to keep things interesting. Whites have been willing to put up with a certain amount of inconvenience in the form of crime and welfare in order to also have plenty of big fast football players and ethnic restaurants, and especially so they can pat themselves on the back for their color-blindness. Whether it's something inherent or something they've been taught, they don't like the idea of looking around and seeing only white faces day after day.

The question will be: what happens when the inconvenience of multi-cult becomes too great? In the North in places like Detroit, but also in countless neighborhoods, whites move out. I attend a gorgeous old Irish Catholic church that's right in the middle of the blackest part of town -- the Irish and Germans moved away in the span of less than a century.

The Southern guys here say that won't happen in the South, which means either whites will eventually drive out the blacks, or they'll continue to get along and show the world that permanent racial harmony is a possibility after all.

Anonymous Cheddarman April 02, 2015 4:50 PM  

Nate, speaking of vibrants, you and your neighbors are gonna have to deal with the invasion of vibrant reptiles (anacondas, African rock pythons, Burmese pythons, Cobras, and who knows what other species) from southern Florida in the near future. Good luck with that. I will stay here in the north so my Southron friends have a secure northern buffer zone between the Ohio River and blue state territory.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar April 02, 2015 4:55 PM  

There is no narrative anymore. That's why you're here. There are just uglies dancing on minefields in Washington DX and sorry liars telling the same old story that nobody wants to hear anymore on dead air of Dinosaur Networks.
Somewhere at the center of the Universe, Lovecraft says an idiot god name Azatoth mindlessly spins babbling nonsense that only he understands. At this point I would rather listen to him than these media guys. Sometimes I go to Rush Limbaugh's website, because he'll tell you what they're saying next week or during the next media cycle before the start. He's more succinct than they are, and he puts it together instead of the mess they make on Dinosaur News.
Nothing can ever happen until it does. everybody says it will never change until change comes. After it happens, everyone wonders why it took so long and says they knew it was coming. This time will be like that. These are interesting times where historical events happen. Someday some of you will tell your grandkids stories about what it was really like to be here, if you're lucky or unlucky depending on how it goes for you...

Blogger Josh April 02, 2015 5:03 PM  

The Southern guys here say that won't happen in the South, which means either whites will eventually drive out the blacks, or they'll continue to get along and show the world that permanent racial harmony is a possibility after all.

Or...we'll keep on living in our self segregated areas like we have for the last three hundred years.

Man all y'all foreigners don't get it.

Blogger Nate April 02, 2015 5:03 PM  

"Nate, speaking of vibrants, you and your neighbors are gonna have to deal with the invasion of vibrant reptiles"

They'll be going up against eastern diamond backs... and rednecks with thermal scopes.

Best of luck.

Blogger Nate April 02, 2015 5:07 PM  

"I haven't spent too much time in there but Guntersville seems like a great place I drove through while in Alabama."

That's up there not far from Little River Canyon right? it is gorgeous up there. great motorcycle roads... tons of great food too.

OpenID simplytimothy April 02, 2015 5:17 PM  

they don't like the idea of looking around and seeing only white faces day after day.

That is where I live now and I like the reality of it very much.

Blogger Noah B April 02, 2015 5:30 PM  

"They'll be going up against eastern diamond backs... and rednecks with thermal scopes."

What thermal scope should I buy? Needs to handle .30 recoil at a minimum. I like bargains but quality is more important than cost.

Blogger JartStar April 02, 2015 5:32 PM  

The future of the US is something like Brazil. Life is cheap and violent in the slums, but there are pockets of wealth and security with and all of it steeped in an extremely licentious culture.

Blogger Nate April 02, 2015 5:42 PM  

"What thermal scope should I buy? Needs to handle .30 recoil at a minimum. I like bargains but quality is more important than cost."

I don't know that there is such a thing as a bargain in thermal scopes... if money is a factor I wouldn't go thermal... I would go digital night vision.

Otherwise... I know a guy that has a flir 2X9 on an AR-10... paid about 4k for it. shoots MOA at 200 yards or so with it and he picks up rabbits and squirrels at 100 yards in pitch black.

I know you can get therm scopes for half that... but that is the one I have used.

Anonymous Atombum April 02, 2015 5:47 PM  

Both the post and comments have this Mississippians` head percolating. Let me me set my mind in order and I`ll comment later.

OpenID simplytimothy April 02, 2015 6:09 PM  

Otherwise... I know a guy that has a flir 2X9 on an AR-10... paid about 4k for it. shoots MOA at 200 yards or so with it and he picks up rabbits and squirrels at 100 yards in pitch black.

Gotta a coyote problem here once a year and I cannot afford a scope...boy, that would be nice to have.

OpenID cailcorishev April 02, 2015 6:16 PM  

Or...we'll keep on living in our self segregated areas like we have for the last three hundred years.

That was my option #2, the lesson of which would be that if you want relative racial harmony, you need to stay fairly segregated. Of course, that also assumes Northern cities and the Feds don't Section 8 a few million vibrants down your way (or you stop them at the borders). Maybe that will be what starts the war Nate's talking about.

That is where I live now and I like the reality of it very much.

Same here (my Midwestern county is 95% white), but we seem to be in the minority. I don't know how many times I've heard people sound embarrassed and ashamed at being from a place with so little "culture," which is just code for "too white." How many whites brag about having a black friend, or feel guilty if they don't? So many kids I grew up with couldn't wait to run off to the big city -- not specifically to live near blacks, but certainly with a desire for more "diversity" than their quiet, Mayberry-style birthplace had to offer, including a chance to show the tolerance they never needed back home, and thinking more racial and cultural diversity would make life more exciting. I suppose it does; but that cuts both ways.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar April 02, 2015 6:23 PM  

back in the 1980s the media went all out to make black cool. It was Dr. Cosby, and Mr. T and Eddie Murphy. Then they went gangster in the 90s and the kill Whitey started. Now its White genocide or bust.
This game is SO OVER. Subtle this is not.

Blogger Noah B April 02, 2015 6:26 PM  

"Gotta a coyote problem here once a year and I cannot afford a scope...boy, that would be nice to have."

Have you tried snares? They are brutally effective and fairly cheap. A guy I know has gotten into snaring them using a couple of different methods and has killed nine or ten of them in the last couple of years. Obviously you don't want to use these where you've got friendly dogs or kids running around.

Here's the cadillac version -- the Power Snare

Anonymous Cash April 02, 2015 7:20 PM  

"That's up there not far from Little River Canyon right? it is gorgeous up there. great motorcycle roads... tons of great food too."

No idea about Little River Canyon. I was only in the area a few days but loved those lakes, rivers, and mountains. The country also wasn't depressing as it can be over in my area as there are still nice houses and nice small towns.

Anonymous Discard April 02, 2015 7:24 PM  

Nate: Thermal scopes rely on temperature differences. I don't think they'll work on cold-blooded reptiles.

Blogger JohnG April 02, 2015 7:34 PM  

The article assumes that the status quo will continue indefinitely, there's no repercussions to $trillion deficits forever and ever amen...or resurgent Russia or a bloody Caliphate engulfing the Middle East... any/all of which could tip the global house of cards. Mexicans come here to run people and drugs or tap into nobody's looking welfare benefits, and the blacks...in a collapse, the migration will stop and the other will likely starve in their inner city warrens (along with a lot whites that think rat warrens are fine).

Anonymous Cash April 02, 2015 7:35 PM  

Them snakes got a long way to go before getting to Alabama. They aren't even up to central Florida yet.

Those snakes are extremely difficult to kill. Florida put a dollar amount on each Python killed a couple years back...... they didn't get that many.

OpenID simplytimothy April 02, 2015 7:39 PM  

@Noah B.

I will chat with the locals about the snares. Our local gun-stores* have claw-traps and the you-tubes I have watched on coyote trapping (and conversations with locals) show that they are wiley and will avoid traps.

Personally, I want to shoot them. I have been walking some trails around here and I have found some sign along some paths. They come in every Winter late Feb-March and stay a few weeks. Last Feb, I walked the ridgeline and based on the sound in the undergrowth, I think I chased some off from the sunning spot up there (lots of sign). There is a tree stand there and with my neighbors permission (and If I can get my ass out of bed and up a mountain in a cold february night) I can use that.

*we have two gun-shops w/in 3 miles of the town; a feed store has ammo. I have only been to one of the gun stores (just heard about the other, its behind a gas station) . The display is larger than the "Outdoor World/Bass Pro shop" in Orlando and the town is < 20K people.

Blogger James Dixon April 02, 2015 8:02 PM  

> "Do you put the sugar in when you brew the tea.. or after you serve it?"

Both, obviously.

> I wish you'll help me understand by answering my dumb questions.

Remember, Hank, there's no such thing as a dumb question. But there are dumb people who ask questions.

Blogger James Dixon April 02, 2015 8:05 PM  

> Maybe that will be what starts the war Nate's talking about.

The most likely event to trigger a war will be attempted gun confiscation.

Blogger Noah B April 02, 2015 8:31 PM  

"Our local gun-stores* have claw-traps and the you-tubes I have watched on coyote trapping (and conversations with locals) show that they are wiley and will avoid traps."

I used to think that coyotes were too smart/cautious to get into traps too, but that has not been my experience. This is in a suburban setting with coyotes that are rarely shot at, so that may affect their behavior with regard to snares. The same friend lost two jaw traps to coyotes dragging them away, even though we though we had them well anchored. Maybe the coyotes died from the injuries, maybe not. Snares, OTOH, have been much more effective. Coyotes are creatures of habit and if they cross a fence or other obstacle they tend to come through the same way over and over again. Find a choke point on the coyotes' trail and arrange the snare so that it looks like the only way to get through. Amazingly, a coyote will stick its head right through the snare and start pressing against it trying to open it up. That only tightens the snare, or in the case of the Power Ram, that movement trips it.

When you're using a snare, just don't make the loop too large. A loop about the same circumference as a basketball has worked best.

Anonymous Red Comet April 02, 2015 8:46 PM  

What happens will depend on the outcome of Civil War 2: This Time It's Balkanized.

Either that war will end with the US broken up into several mono-cultural, mono-ethnic countries (as has mysteriously happened throughout history) or the regime will win and the country will descend into another version of Brazil.

Anonymous Cash April 02, 2015 8:55 PM  

"The most likely event to trigger a war will be attempted gun confiscation."

Who knows what the trigger event will be. It could be one of a hundred million different things. It may not even start in this country.

Anonymous Discard April 02, 2015 9:05 PM  

Red Comet: Meximerica cannot begin to support the numbers it does without the White Man's Magic. Cut off the imported water and you've got ghost cities. And Blacks today are completely unable to support themselves. Cut the welfare and the phony government jobs and they'll riot for three days and then die. The Chinese will not stick around in the crossfire of a race war. It will come down to us vs anti-Whites. They lose. As has been pointed out, they need us to work, while we don't need them to supervise.

Blogger Eric April 02, 2015 9:31 PM  

The long time resident Hispanics usually are hard working and we get along. Don't know about all the new comers. I don't think the long time Hispanics here know about them either.

The first generation is happy to be here, because they have experience living somewhere much worse (in most cases, anyway). But their children are raised by the SJWs in school to resent, well, everything. They'll be happy to go on welfare, sell drugs, crank out bastards, and generally be of no use to anyone.

California's solution: Import another generation of illegals.

Blogger James Dixon April 02, 2015 9:35 PM  

> Who knows what the trigger event will be. It could be one of a hundred million different things. It may not even start in this country.

Of course. It's just that with the current exponential governmental growth and overreach, I consider it to be the most likely of a wide host of options.

Anonymous Jack Amok April 02, 2015 10:41 PM  

Of course. It's just that with the current exponential governmental growth and overreach, I consider it to be the most likely of a wide host of options.

Not to mention it was a proximate trigger of AR v 1.0. The Redcoats at Bunker Hill were marching to confiscate a cache of rifles. The Colonials decided they'd rather not negotiate their freedom without a BATNA that included weaponry.

Blogger JaimeInTexas April 02, 2015 11:13 PM  

Tea, properly made, only needs sweetening once and that is when made and still hot. If still needing sugar when iced, it was not made properly. Add more cane sugar next time.

Anonymous Frank Brady April 02, 2015 11:30 PM  

The American nation died long ago. The state that calls itself the United States is disintegrating rapidly and the velocity of its disintegration is increasing geometrically. None of the centralized institutions upon which it has relied is working. There is no social cohesion. I believe Vox's projection of 2033 is far too generous.

Anonymous Red Comet April 03, 2015 12:26 AM  

Red Comet: Meximerica cannot begin to support the numbers it does without the White Man's Magic.

I know, hence why I said it will end up like Brazil where there aren't enough wealth producing whites (and 80+% white mestizos) to provide their untouchables with US level welfare.

The low IQ races live in Section 8 today but tomorrow they will live in favellas constructed of scrap wood and sheet metal.

Also, the African and other Turd World population boom stuff in the news is just extrapolated from current birth rates and doesn't account for how much Western economic support they need.

Once the West's economy cracks up these high population super poor countries will devolve into mass famine and all out war.

Anonymous map April 03, 2015 2:59 AM  

Vox is generous. I predict the collapse of the United States in 2024.

OpenID simplytimothy April 03, 2015 5:42 AM  

Coyotes are creatures of habit and if they cross a fence or other obstacle they tend to come through the same way over and over again. Find a choke point on the coyotes' trail and arrange the snare so that it looks like the only way to get through. Amazingly, a coyote will stick its head right through the snare and start pressing against it trying to open it up. That only tightens the snare, or in the case of the Power Ram, that movement trips it.

When you're using a snare, just don't make the loop too large. A loop about the same circumference as a basketball has worked best.


Excellent, thanks. I think I found a choke-point this year along a barbed wire fence where one of the wires is sagging. That's one run. There is another across the valley up on a ridgeline that I have to study some more. I will do that with an eye to your advice.

OpenID simplytimothy April 03, 2015 5:50 AM  

The state that calls itself the United States is disintegrating rapidly and the velocity of its disintegration is increasing geometrically.

I mark it to the war of Northern Aggression where "The United States are..." became "the United States is...". All our fights are over that is with people like Ruth Bader Ginsberg and Hillary Clinton having designs on remaking it in their image.

"The most likely event to trigger a war will be attempted gun confiscation."

Per sipseystreetirregulars, The CT, CO and NY laws have met near total resistance from the armed populace; even WA is getting in the act with the younguns getting in on civil disobedience. My guess is this has obama/jarrett jiggering their strategy.


Blogger Nate April 03, 2015 7:52 AM  

"Nate: Thermal scopes rely on temperature differences. I don't think they'll work on cold-blooded reptiles. "

bahahahahaha

Dude I can be a giant dumbass sometimes... I think I can actually recreate the idiotic jumps my mind made this time though...

I had been shooting with my buddy a few days ago with his new thermal scope and it was on my mind...

So Cheds brings up snakes.. invasive species... and we already have a huge issue with another invasive species... hogs... which is what we use the thermal for.

anyway... retardery.... no excuses.

Blogger kurt9 April 03, 2015 5:56 PM  

Fred's scenario is quite benign. Can anyone come up with an even more benign scenario that results in the more than 300,000 federal laws and regulations is reduced down to about a thousand?

Anonymous Friend of Bill April 03, 2015 9:22 PM  

It's not the number of laws that matters, it's the percentage of them that are stupid, pernicious, and destructive. If you had 300,000 laws that were sane, justly expounded and enforced, and actually made sense, it wouldn't be a problem. (Not that any one individual has to learn 300,000 laws; there are laws about fish inspection and laws about electrical sockets and laws about turbines, people only need to know what they in particular need to know.) But I do take your point in theory.

Anonymous Jim Milo April 04, 2015 7:42 PM  

Dr J said"

"the notion that southern blacks are all that different from northern blacks is a few decades out of date"

My experience with blacks started at birth in Montreal, when a black professional couple who moved to Canada from Chicago rented out part of their house to my parents.

YMMV. It's always been more class than race IMHO.

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