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Wednesday, April 22, 2015

The Red-heeled Guards

There always comes a time when a state military jumps the shark. The U.S. military appears to be rapidly reaching that point:
“The purpose of the event is to create a basis of understanding about sexual violence, stigmas and rape culture in the military as well as in our community and to reinforce standards of behavior, active bystander mentality and to be peer advisers to one’s unit and community,” Johnson said. “By walking in heels, the hope is to instill standards of behavior that will resonate.”

Johnson said they chose this event because the powerful message of the heels would be best at capturing the community’s attention.

“The heels represent the rise of sexual assault within our community,” she said. “Though the heels may feel one-sided, only acknowledging that females suffer the horrors of rape and sexual assault, that is not the case. The event is a synopses of the problem that both men and women suffer in our community and society through the stigmas, rape culture and lack of respect and education.”
Of course, they could always try the absolutely foolproof plan of ending rape and sexual assault within the military by banning women and homosexuals. On the other hand, considering that the American people increasingly appear to be one of the more likely opponents of this New Fabulous Army, seeing the US Army putting on red heels probably isn't the worst thing in the world.

At this point, I would fully expect the U.S. military to not only lose a war with Russia or China, but lose it badly. It may have better toys as a legacy of its historical greatness, but even Rome's legions eventually became toothless parodies of their former selves.

I'm not sure they were ever quite this ridiculous, though. The fact that even a single ROTC candidate member was willing to go along with the program demonstrates how hapless the future officer corps is going to be.

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180 Comments:

Blogger Daniel April 22, 2015 3:31 PM  

Corporal Klinger's section 8 never had a chance...

Anonymous Alexander April 22, 2015 3:34 PM  

The deliberate destruction of the morale and integrity of the armed forces by its military and civilian leadership in wartime is treason.

Question for Col. Kratman, who I hope will grace this particular thread:

How far down should the crucifixions go? The officers who enforced this, the contracted cadets who went along with it? The non-contracted cadets who went along with it? What would ROTC cadet Hamilton do?

And if you're here, I understand we are now on Day 4 of Operation AMAZON GRRRRLS. Any news?

Anonymous Zell April 22, 2015 3:34 PM  

From what I read, the ROTC was forced to take part in it or they'd be written up.

Anonymous Stilicho April 22, 2015 3:35 PM  

The fact that even a single ROTC candidate member was willing to go along with the program demonstrates how hapless the future officer corps is going to be.

Exactly. Theodore Dalrymple's words come to mind:

In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is...in some small way to become evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.

Someday, those cadets are likely to find themselves claiming that they were "just following orders".

Blogger Chiva April 22, 2015 3:37 PM  

I can only shake my head.

Anonymous Harsh April 22, 2015 3:39 PM  

Somewhere Putin is laughing his ass off.

Blogger Daniel April 22, 2015 3:40 PM  

There are 5 college students self identifying as women shown in that picture. Ironically, one of them is going to be raped on campus.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan April 22, 2015 3:40 PM  

Kratman has commented on this at weaponsman. If you understand it's propaganda it liberates your mind.

Anonymous Mike Mike April 22, 2015 3:42 PM  

I can only hope the Professor of Military Science is getting called on the carpet for this. I doubt it though.

Anonymous Chief_Tuscaloosa April 22, 2015 3:45 PM  

It's a shit test, and all these ROTC punks PASSED it! The Tribe in Charge doesn't want more General Mattis clones--they're looking for a new generation of General "Bigger Tragedy" Casey. And as usual, the Tribe in Charge gets what they want...until another tribe decides they've had just about enough of it and the violence starts. Which then begins another round of "why all this animosity to the Tribe in Charge?!" and the cycle begins anew. Please stop this ride, I'd like to get off.

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian April 22, 2015 3:45 PM  

That is some of the best FreeFor encouragement.

Anonymous dh April 22, 2015 3:47 PM  

Whats the alternative? Hope that the asshole boomer who runs the only jobs in town decides to retire so everyone can move up the ladder, or compete with low wage immigrants for entry level jobs?

My two goals in life are now to acquire enough wealth so that my daughters are attractive wives for elite husbands, or to set them up with funds and support to run their own profitable enterprise in the medium scale. Wouldn't want to be in their shoes.

Anonymous Curtis April 22, 2015 3:50 PM  

From what I read, the ROTC was forced to take part in it or they'd be written up.

S-F-W?

A man would have had the back-bone to say hell no. The fact that not one, did tells us all we need to know.

Here we are! Imagine where we will be?

“By walking in heels, the hope is to instill standards of behavior that will resonate.”

F*ck! Seriously? Get yer gurl out?

Somewhere Putin is laughing his ass off.

Ef it. If Russia ever invades, I'm on their side.

Anonymous Alexander April 22, 2015 3:50 PM  

Wouldn't want to be in their shoes.

Neither would the cadets!

Anonymous sawtooth April 22, 2015 3:50 PM  

Would Arizona State Sun "Devils" actually mean "demons" because the term being used is in plural form?

Just wondering.

Blogger SirHamster April 22, 2015 3:52 PM  

And if you're here, I understand we are now on Day 4 of Operation AMAZON GRRRRLS. Any news?

Who's doing what? First I've heard of that.

Anonymous Huckleberry -- est. 1977 April 22, 2015 3:52 PM  

How do stupid stunts like these raise awareness or understanding of anything beyond the fact that abysmally juvenile lunatics can't handle even a modicum of managerial influence without making a complete cockup of it?
"Hey look, we forced a gaggle of cadets into partial transvestism! Now that we have your attention, don't rape."
"Hey look, we forced an entire league of football players to wear pink for a quarter of their season! Now that we have your attention, don't get breast cancer."
Hey look, we forced a bunch of game journalists to trade sex for favorable reviews. Now that we have your attention, don't play BadThink games."
And so on.

Blogger Michael Maier April 22, 2015 3:54 PM  

http://weaponsman.com/?p=22192

Anonymous Niccolò Arminius April 22, 2015 3:55 PM  

"On the other hand, considering that the American people increasingly appear to be one of the more likely opponents of this New Fabulous Army, seeing the US Army putting on red heels probably isn't the worst thing in the world."

Every real American male needs an M1 (the rifle, not the carbine) and plenty of M2 .30-06 AP to run through it when the time comes. If the bad stuff happens, you'll soon have quite a collection of M4 carbines acquired from beyond 600 meters.

If you're afraid of guns, or don't think you're up to taking aimed shots at those ranges, get online and sign up for a Project Appleseed training weekend. They have them all around the country every week.

Anonymous cheddarman April 22, 2015 3:55 PM  

If the dread Ilk ever do a high heel walk, Lavender is my exclusive color, you bitches!

Anonymous Alexander April 22, 2015 3:55 PM  

Sir Hamster,

4th day of the first class of Rangers with wymn in it.

Anonymous Geoff April 22, 2015 3:56 PM  

"when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves"

THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!

Anonymous Alexander April 22, 2015 3:57 PM  

Chedderman,

For your off-white, pale-yellow hue and sharp tastes, I just don't think lavender would do you justice. You strike me more as a periwinkle, of maybe a puce if you were feeling extra sassy.

You might also consider accessorizing with almonds, figs, and a number of organic jams.

Blogger AmyJ April 22, 2015 4:00 PM  

Reading this after seeing an article that says Americans are getting too fat to have a standing army....you guys are right, Putin is definitely laughing.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 April 22, 2015 4:02 PM  

Did anyone at any point during this travesty ask how wearing high heels raises awareness of sexual violence?

From putting condoms on monuments in Argentina to making NFL players wear pink, these Leftists sure know how to fool people. Any sane person would laugh in their faces and tell them they're retarded.

When does the hurting stop?

Blogger Giraffe April 22, 2015 4:11 PM  

Where the hell did they get high heels that would fit? Borrow them from the cross dressing BATFE? The wookie's closet?

Anonymous Mike M. April 22, 2015 4:12 PM  

Our hurting stops when THEIR hurting begins.

Blogger Cataline Sergius April 22, 2015 4:14 PM  

Someday, those cadets are likely to find themselves claiming that they were "just following orders".

Oh no. They were being threatened by their superiors. They are quite clear on that point. Their OERs were going to look like pure-D-shit if they didn't do it. They also had to buy their own extremely non-regulation shoes.

Lets be clear about this matter. It was ritual humiliation. It was forcing the enemy to march under the yolk.

Anonymous Brother Thomas April 22, 2015 4:15 PM  

LOL... where's the rouge and lipstick? Is there still any question that this planet is a lunatic asylum?

Anonymous Soga April 22, 2015 4:16 PM  

AmyJ wrote:
Reading this after seeing an article that says Americans are getting too fat to have a standing army

Certainly, we can only afford a sitting army.

Blogger Cataline Sergius April 22, 2015 4:16 PM  

Here is a picture of the Cadet Corps Commander

You already know, where this is going.

Blogger El Borak April 22, 2015 4:19 PM  

Here is a picture of the Cadet Corps Commander

Look at all those ribbons. she must have won a lot of battles.

Anonymous Soga April 22, 2015 4:19 PM  

If that really is the cadet corps commander, Cataline, why does anybody ever question the Bible's imploration not to have women in authority over men?

Blogger Guitar Man April 22, 2015 4:19 PM  

Reminds me of the day HR handed out red dress pins for everyone to wear for women's cancer awareness. I refused. And then all the dudes at works started mocking me for not kowtowing to that nonsense. I'm here to work.

Anonymous Stilicho April 22, 2015 4:20 PM  

Lets be clear about this matter. It was ritual humiliation. It was forcing the enemy to march under the yolk.

Sure, and the purpose of that humiliation is set forth in the Dalrymple quote: the next time, it will be even easier to obtain compliance, and the time after that...and so forth.

Blogger Cataline Sergius April 22, 2015 4:20 PM  

So long as they are illegally altering uniform regs. Would wearing a Burka be an acceptable substitute?

Anonymous Musashi April 22, 2015 4:21 PM  

Pitiful, simply pitiful.

Blogger Salt April 22, 2015 4:24 PM  

Red heels. The next step Robin Williams foretold -

Adrian as Camp Fashion Consultant: I want to tell you something. You know, this whole camouflage thing, for me, doesn't work very well.
Adrian: Why is that?
Adrian as Camp Fashion Consultant: Because you go in the jungle, I can't see you. You know, it's like wearing stripes and plaid. For me, I want to do something different. You know, you go in the jungle, make a statement. If you're going to fight, clash. You know what I mean?

Anonymous Stilicho April 22, 2015 4:25 PM  

Would wearing a Burka be an acceptable substitute?

That would've been some classic black knighting...especially if the cadet insisted that the females also wear it to to show solidarity with their mohamedan sisters...

Anonymous Oy April 22, 2015 4:25 PM  

Yoke, not yolk.

Anonymous Oy April 22, 2015 4:26 PM  

"When does the hurting stop?"

When enough people say, "fuck this, this is stupid, we're not doing this".

Anonymous Feh April 22, 2015 4:29 PM  

The fact that even a single ROTC candidate member was willing to go along with the program demonstrates how hapless the future officer corps is going to be.

How do you think we got here in the first place? Hapless, careerist, go-along-to-get-promoted officers. Might as well learn before you are even commissioned that the price of promotion is abject, enthusiastic obedience to the Will of the Party.

Blogger Antonio From Spain April 22, 2015 4:31 PM  

Excellent quote, Stilicho.

I used to think the US had a chance to correct course, but if after this there is no uproar, no backlash, no heads rolling...

Yuri Bezmenov was right, unlike him, we have nowhere to defect to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4

Anonymous Curtis April 22, 2015 4:32 PM  

I had this urge to twitter the pics to @PutinRF_Eng @GovernmentRF @DeptofDefense and Novorossiya friends.

Just as a morale booster.

Blogger Marissa April 22, 2015 4:32 PM  

very real American male needs an M1 (the rifle, not the carbine)

I've not seen one recently for less than $1,200. That's kinda expensive for a lot of people. My husband says it's his preferred weapon, but I like the carbine as it's smaller, lighter and won't break my thumb! If a starving, 60-pound Vietnamese woman can wield it, surely I can.

Blogger Noah B April 22, 2015 4:36 PM  

File sexual harassment complaints and say that being forced to wear high heels is rape

Anonymous Too-Soon-ami April 22, 2015 4:37 PM  

If a group of senior cadets had forced junior cadets to do this, they would have been kicked out for hazing.

What will they do next year? Force the cadets to get raped, so they can be more sympathetic to rape victims?

It would be funny if the commandant addressed them in formation, told them it was all just a shit test, and they all FAILED.

Blogger darkdoc April 22, 2015 4:42 PM  

Maybe they WILL be able to find the soldiers who will be willing to fire on American citizens.

They'll be SHOCKED when we fire back.

Blogger Guitar Man April 22, 2015 4:44 PM  

Cheddarman, the only ilk who admitted to cross dressing was Nate. And it sorta wasn't his fault.

Blogger John Wright April 22, 2015 4:45 PM  

Why not end the rape culture by adopting the culture and practice of the Victorians, where no maiden was left alone without an escort or a chaperone for any length of time, and the women were taught vigilantly to guard their chastity, and not step into dangerous situations, such as a barracks full of randy and uber-macho nineteen years olds facing death in combat?

Anonymous DT April 22, 2015 4:46 PM  

How in the hell is seeing a man in heels supposed to raise awareness about anything? Is this what passes for 'thinking' in our day and age?

Whoever came up with this needs to be thrown out of the military for being a drooling retard.

Toss the ROTC cadets who caved as well. "Wear the heels or you will be written up." Not only do you refuse, you frag your commander for that shit.

Blogger Noah B April 22, 2015 4:46 PM  

"but I like the carbine as it's smaller, lighter and won't break my thumb!"

From a purely functional perspective, the M1 carbine sucks Marissa -- very little in the way of power and range. And some of them (Blue Sky comes to mind) are downright junk. Most AR's or Kalashnikovs/AK's are far better.

Anonymous DT April 22, 2015 4:47 PM  

Cheddarman, the only ilk who admitted to cross dressing was Nate. And it sorta wasn't his fault.

Wait...WHAT? No, never mind, I don't want to know...#worldshattered

Anonymous Viking April 22, 2015 4:48 PM  

I would say that they were foot raped but they were obviously asking for it based on how they are dressed.

Blogger Noah B April 22, 2015 4:48 PM  

John, it would be Patriarchy rape if we did that

Anonymous A.B. Prosper April 22, 2015 4:49 PM  

We won't be going to war with Russia, The Neo-Cons would love too but they'd get glassed and they know it. also we very well could lose and at the rate we are going I wouldn't be that surprised if that loss provoked at a junta, Many a military has revolted for less .

If we are lucky they'll eventually call new elections after a decade or two , if we are very lucky, they'll be hard right and nationalist. If they aren't, the US might just fall apart which is fine too.

As to our hosts point banning homosexuals and women won't stop all rape by itself but combined with some sexual and other outlets for the men, we won't have as many issues. Booze, porn and maybe whores are practicality a soldiers right and almost necessary given the testosterone levels of a typical solider.

If whatever pest hole we are defending at the time is intolerant of our troops needs, we should tell them "No problem, we respect your nations customs, you are on your own."

A few more ISIS victories and they'll change their tune

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian April 22, 2015 4:49 PM  

very real American male needs an M1 (the rifle, not the carbine)

Get an M 14 or an M1A. Can run .308/7.62x51. You can find that ammo on the battlefield.

Fulton Armory (http://www.fulton-armory.com/index.aspx) makes some real nice ones if you have the money. If not, Springfield M1A.

Anonymous The Spy April 22, 2015 4:50 PM  

China, Russia and even the armies of Zimbabwe are laughing their a$$e$ off at the caricature of what this country has become.

R.I.P Amerika.

Anonymous Curlytop April 22, 2015 4:51 PM  

How many of these cadets were indoctrinated into wearing those stupid pink t-shirts "Boys wear pink" or "Real men wear pink" crap when they were kids/teens?

Blogger Noah B April 22, 2015 4:52 PM  

"Booze, porn and maybe whores are practicality a soldiers right and almost necessary given the testosterone levels of a typical solider. "

The Marine Corps, at least, is planning ahead to fully integrate female recruits. Note that MOS 69 remains unassigned.

Anonymous Niccolò Arminius April 22, 2015 4:54 PM  

Get an M 14 or an M1A. Can run .308/7.62x51. You can find that ammo on the battlefield.

A fine weapon indeed, but it won't defeat level III.

Blogger Noah B April 22, 2015 4:55 PM  

It will go through level III like a silk dress.

Anonymous Mike M. April 22, 2015 4:55 PM  

@ John Wright:

I like the other Victorian anti-rape measure. A proper lady should always have a firearm somewhere.

@ Marissa: You can pick up a Garand through the Civilian Marksmanship Program for about $675. An M1 Carbine you'll have to find on the secondary market, and as Noah mentioned, you'll be better off with an entry-level AR.

Blogger Salt April 22, 2015 4:58 PM  

Pretty red pumps. Three clicks. "There's no place like home. There's no place like home."

Blogger Rabbi B April 22, 2015 5:00 PM  

" . . . where no maiden was left alone without an escort or a chaperone for any length of time, and the women were taught vigilantly to guard their chastity . . ."

Now there's the makings of an SF/F novel for you.

Blogger Noah B April 22, 2015 5:04 PM  

Ah, looks like I was thinking of IIIA. 7.62x51 AP or SLAP will still go through III.

Anonymous dh April 22, 2015 5:05 PM  

Sure it was that for upper class and elite women but it was always bawdry tawdry at the working class.

Which just goes to show you, that feminism has done what they always wanted, spread the misery of the poor, working women to the ranks of the previously elite. Congrats ladies.

Blogger Danby April 22, 2015 5:10 PM  

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Blogger Danby April 22, 2015 5:12 PM  

@Mike M. The CMP hasn't had a Garand since I started looking 2 years ago. Since the Korean War ones ran out, it's just been parade rifles with a pin through the camber.

Think of the M1 Carbine as the 9MM of rifles. Handy for a lady who has a hard time with the noise, power, or size of an M1.

Personally, I like my K98kurz rechambered on .30-06. But Chauc'un a son gout and all that.

The best gun is the gun that you can hit the target with. Stopping power is no good when it's hitting the wall or free air

Blogger Mr. Leavitt April 22, 2015 5:19 PM  

@Danby

They still sell them, picked up two myself last year.

http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/rifle_sales/m1-garand/

Blogger Student in Blue April 22, 2015 5:23 PM  

The fact that even a single ROTC candidate member was willing to go along with the program demonstrates how hapless the future officer corps is going to be.

Eh, ROTC was already very hapless, and a bad indicator of how they'll be in the actual Army.

I mean, no one really had respect for ROTC except for civvies.

Blogger Student in Blue April 22, 2015 5:23 PM  

...and people in ROTC themselves, that is.

Anonymous Abum April 22, 2015 5:23 PM  

I remember my first night of boot. I was sleeping good after lights out until something went CRASH. A DS had kicked over a cot with two sodies going at it in a `69` under a blanket. Oh, the good old days. Next week, the ASU Cadets walk barefoot across the burning desert sands showing support for poor messican settlers!

Anonymous Niccolò Arminius April 22, 2015 5:26 PM  

Noah, here's the NIJ Level III standard:
Conditioned armor protects against 9.6 g (148 gr) 7.62×51mm NATO M80 ball bullets at a velocity of 847 m/s ± 9.1 m/s (2780 ft/s ± 30 ft/s). It also provides protection against the threats mentioned in [Types I, IIA, II, and IIIA].

Anonymous Curtis April 22, 2015 5:36 PM  

Hell. Pick a battle rifle. M14/1A or M4 learn it and stick with it (and have extra moving parts). And it wouldn't hurt to train with your buddies weapon opposite whatever you have. Then, go see this guy: http://www.maxvelocitytactical.com/

Hips and heads.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 April 22, 2015 5:39 PM  

Shouldn't the sexual harassment lawsuits start now? I mean, a lesbian commander making her cadets wear high heels should constitute that, right?

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 April 22, 2015 5:41 PM  

The fact that even a single ROTC candidate member was willing to go along with the program demonstrates how hapless the future officer corps is going to be.

I doubt everyone was willing to do it. It was probably a case of "I get to keep my job" T-Shirt situation.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza April 22, 2015 5:43 PM  

There is a band I heard yesterday after a few days of bed rest. The cold/flu thing is like constant death warmed over. It is very curing for a lack of humility.

Rape is hilarious b/c its mostly a lie.

Courtesy of bloodhound gang;

"why would I wanna be friends?
I'd rather be raped
by clowns again."

The SJWers can marinate on that.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza April 22, 2015 5:45 PM  

Anyways, isn't there an already unknown position for the missionary position or whatever in any military that brings the homosexual and henhouse in?

Isn't true that someplace beyond medical care providers the Sergent or intake rep says, "ok bringing women in means your sole gig is to service the country by serving the mens sexual matters, here is some birth control, report to duty, good luck."

Anonymous BigGaySteve April 22, 2015 5:46 PM  

Look at all those ribbons. she must have won a lot of battles.

Women get ARCOM medal for trolling facebook during workhours http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=57351 people hurt her feeling so she cried and reported it. Got medal for crying.

If you want a picture of the future, imagine a tranny's hairy brown foot in a stiletto heel stamping on a white male human face - for ever. Or at least until civilization falls apart.

Anonymous Obvious April 22, 2015 5:47 PM  

... you know that these walks have been going on for years, right? This isn't a new thing.

Also, banning females and homosexuals wouldn't remove rape from the Armed forces.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza April 22, 2015 5:48 PM  

I dont think women understand that military is not a foreign anime of perfection and worship to gay and women serving. Military life does not revolve around being gay or a woman where you run the show, special snowflake, where is the Sergent from full metal jacket?

Blogger Noah B April 22, 2015 5:49 PM  

Sexual assault has been going on for years too and also isn't a new thing.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza April 22, 2015 5:50 PM  

Ok, so its not funny afterall.

Anonymous Dirtnapninja April 22, 2015 5:52 PM  

The ancient romans used to make defeated enemies duck and bow under a frame of broken spears and pila as a sign of their submission. Thats what this is..a spectacle of submission by the defeated .

Blogger LP 999/Eliza April 22, 2015 5:57 PM  

Wearing red heels is unacceptably revolting on men.

Blogger John April 22, 2015 5:58 PM  

Let's add insult to injury: according to some estimates, an American woman is about three times more likely to be raped by a civilian than by a member of the US military.

Anonymous Curtis April 22, 2015 6:03 PM  

In other news: 'POOP EQUALITY': STUDENTS HOLD 'SH*T-IN' AT PUBLIC CALIFORNIA UNIVERSITY

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2015/04/21/poop-equality-students-hold-sht-in-at-public-california-university/

Blogger LP 999/Eliza April 22, 2015 6:07 PM  

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Blogger Cataline Sergius April 22, 2015 6:16 PM  

Damn spell correct

Anonymous Steve April 22, 2015 6:20 PM  

Dirtnapninja - Thats what this is..a spectacle of submission by the defeated .

Yes, but submission to whom?

Seems to me that English-speaking countries in general and the USA in particular worship... women, for some bizarre reason. It's like a civilisation-wide outbreak of white-knighting.

The moral panic around "rape culture".
The loudly-shouted lies about the "pay gap".
Endless crying about muh sojiny in male-dominated spaces like the tech industry / sports / computer games.
The cults of abortion and "women's health".
Countless adverts, sitcoms and movies portraying the man of the house as a doughy doofus under the thumb of his super-smart butt-kicking wife.
Successful mid-list authors publicly boasting that they're physically inferior to their teenaged daughters.
The existence of Hilary Clinton.

I like women a lot, but this is ridiculous. And it's not doing women any favours.

You think normal girls want to see ROTC boys in red fuck-me pumps?

Of course not. It's just a shit test. They want men to be men, to take charge, so they can feel safe and secure being women. That's why women fantasise about Christian Grey and not John Scalzi.

Every time we as men fail a shit test, it drives the ladies a little bit crazier and forces them to up the ante.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler April 22, 2015 6:24 PM  

What F*cking idiots!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous porphyry April 22, 2015 6:25 PM  

lol classic way to troll rotc recruits before they actually get balls… except its not … fucking fags…

Blogger Cataline Sergius April 22, 2015 6:37 PM  

@ John Wright

The last of WM Only Barracks had vanished long before I joined but there were still a few old timers that remembered them.

I remember posing a foolish question as a statement of fact, "So, Gunny the single sex barracks were just to lock men out?"

Gunny Sharp, a man whose face was made out of friendly sheet of cracked leather smiled and said, "No, it was to lock the girls in."

Anonymous Curtis April 22, 2015 6:38 PM  

Of course not. It's just a shit test.

This is no "shit test".

You think all the people that put this shit on are normal and just really really just checking?

Not a chance.

And there is not a chance in hell that these snow flakes that went along with it are normal.

Give it another 10, 20, 30 years. If you are a man, or a woman, you'll be in re-education camps.

Blogger Chris Mallory April 22, 2015 6:51 PM  

AmyJ wrote:
Reading this after seeing an article that says Americans are getting too fat to have a standing army


Since the US is not supposed to have a standing army to begin with, I fail to see the problem.

Anonymous zen0 April 22, 2015 7:39 PM  

I was hoping there would be a review stand where the marchers would stop, pull off the shoes and pelt the brass with them.

I still have some romantic tendencies left to shed.

Anonymous KC9ZNR April 22, 2015 7:58 PM  

This inspires me to pick up a cheap (though not as cheap as they used to be) 91/30, strip the stock, and give it a pink glitter treatment. That might be enough to get my sisters to "test fire" it, though I expect they would not enjoy the recoil and never trust me again. And how would you explain a sparkly Mosin-Nagant at the range..?

Anonymous scoobius dubious April 22, 2015 8:22 PM  

"The Red-Heeled Guards"

That's actually very witty. I'm curious what percentage of your readers get the joke.

Blogger Bard April 22, 2015 8:25 PM  

I am in the Army. Disgusting, sad day. I cannot believe they did that shit.

Blogger Bard April 22, 2015 8:26 PM  

Read something about it earlier and I thought it was a joke.

Blogger Bard April 22, 2015 8:27 PM  

Maybe Scalzi can title his next book "Red Shoes"

Anonymous Peter Pan April 22, 2015 8:32 PM  

I find this utterly embarrassing for both the services and the country. I get that rape is a bad thing, most people get that (especially those in the military--they get briefed on it every quarter and sometimes more) but this is a terribly ignominious act. I can only imagine how many former service members are turning in their graves at this level of degradation.

Anonymous scoobius dubious April 22, 2015 8:33 PM  

"It was ritual humiliation. It was forcing the enemy to march under the yolk."

Ahem. Under the YOKE, not the yolk.

Sorry, it's a t-u-ff- tough job, but SOMEbody's gotta do it.

Blogger SirHamster April 22, 2015 8:54 PM  

Maybe Scalzi can title his next book "Red Shoes"

A few more years of this, and Scalzi may indeed be mistakeable for an ex-Marine. Wearing a pretty dress.

Blogger Bard April 22, 2015 8:59 PM  

Right on!

Blogger Jay Lucas April 22, 2015 9:00 PM  

No one has made a Ruby Slippers comment, really?

"...forced to repeat the lies themselves..."

This explains so, so many of my mandatory classes through school.

Blogger Rantor April 22, 2015 9:29 PM  

I've written some senators on the armed services committee asking them to intervene. This easily breaks three rules or regulations in the Army: First, it is illegal for Army personnel to participate in a demonstration while wearing a uniform, no matter how noble the cause may be. Second, wearing bright red high heels while in a combat uniform is prohibited by army regulations. Third, the cadets say that they were coerced into this activity by the officers running the cadet corps at Arizona State. I requested that the Senators contact the Chief of Staff of the Army so he can see that this does not happen again.

Don't know what kind of answer I'll get, but I bet a lot of vets in AZ are complaining too. So hopefully this shark jumping leads to a positive response.

Blogger Rantor April 22, 2015 9:29 PM  

Next will be a formal complaint to the Army Cadet Command IG

Anonymous zen0 April 22, 2015 9:35 PM  

@ Jay Lucas

> No one has made a Ruby Slippers comment, really?

I think Salt did. No place like homo, eh?

Anonymous A Visitor April 22, 2015 9:37 PM  

"Of course, they could always try the absolutely foolproof plan of ending rape and sexual assault within the military by banning women and homosexuals. On the other hand, considering that the American people increasingly appear to be one of the more likely opponents of this New Fabulous Army, seeing the US Army putting on red heels probably isn't the worst thing in the world.

At this point, I would fully expect the U.S. military to not only lose a war with Russia or China, but lose it badly. It may have better toys as a legacy of its historical greatness, but even Rome's legions eventually became toothless parodies of their former selves."

Agreed 100% on losing a war with China or Russia. What about sexual violence against men in the military, you know male on male rapes, false claims of rapes by women to destroy a man's career, etc? Oh, right, they don't count.

"Someday, those cadets are likely to find themselves claiming that they were "just following orders"." It reminds me of some of the cadets I'd see PTing in the morning in undergrad. Would they go through with it if they knew they'd be subjected to humiliation like this?

"S-F-W?
A man would have had the back-bone to say hell no. The fact that not one, did tells us all we need to know."

Unfortunately they're 18-22 year olds, hoping to make it into the military post graduation. Ergo, the last thing they need is a formal disciplinary action taken against them because of this. I can see the brass using that as an excuse to railroad them post commissioning. It's a situation though, not arguing that at all.

"Here is a picture of the Cadet Corps Commander

You already know, where this is going." *barf*

"Reminds me of the day HR handed out red dress pins for everyone to wear for women's cancer awareness. I refused. And then all the dudes at works started mocking me for not kowtowing to that nonsense. I'm here to work." Made me smile.

"The Marine Corps, at least, is planning ahead to fully integrate female recruits. Note that MOS 69 remains unassigned."

0300 = infantry 69 = ? Or is that a 69 joke?

"... you know that these walks have been going on for years, right? This isn't a new thing."

Did not know that.

"In other news: 'POOP EQUALITY': STUDENTS HOLD 'SH*T-IN' AT PUBLIC CALIFORNIA UNIVERSITY

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2015/04/21/poop-equality-students-hold-sht-in-at-public-california-university/"

I remember the Chappelle's Show sh*t in skit during the civil rights era with Charlie Murphy....funny episode that one.

"The existence of Hilary Clinton." I LOLed at that one! Thank you!

@Bard

Sorry to hear that it's happening while you're in. Thanks for the service and what's your MOS?

I remember being out at Fort Irwin a few years ago and seeing the reaction/hearing it (when I did not get it first hand) from the guys about opening combat MOSes to women. General consensus: not a good idea. This is just a further fall from grace.

"I find this utterly embarrassing for both the services and the country. I get that rape is a bad thing, most people get that (especially those in the military--they get briefed on it every quarter and sometimes more)"

So you're saying they think SHARP training isn't enough? Gotcha.

OpenID cailcorishev April 22, 2015 9:37 PM  

It was ritual humiliation. It was forcing the enemy to march under the yolk.

It doesn't sound like pelting them with eggs could have made it any more humiliating.

Anonymous zen0 April 22, 2015 9:54 PM  

@ A Visitor

Unfortunately they're 18-22 year olds, hoping to make it into the military post graduation. Ergo, the last thing they need is a formal disciplinary action taken against them because of this. I can see the brass using that as an excuse to railroad them post commissioning. It's a situation though, not arguing that at all.

This is exactly the kind of thing that lead to the forming of workers unions. If they all refused, what would happen? If they all gathered with the shoes they had to buy and put them in a pile and burned them, what would happen?

Instead, they bitch privately, smile, and submit to gross humiliation by a ball busting bitch with red on the roof.......(fire in the hole).

Leftist Commies wouldn't put up with this shit. WTF?

Anonymous Not-So-Merry zen0 April 22, 2015 9:59 PM  

So these poor fuckers put up with this shit so they can join an organization that sends them to die for nefarious purposes, lets them be shot by Jihadis in their own bases, and constantly busts their balls for no reason save PC lunacy.

Get a fucking EBT card like the rest of the wise-guys.
Stupid crackers.
Fuck.

Anonymous Giuseppe April 22, 2015 10:05 PM  

Uh...guess no need to ask or tell anymore if they gonna transvestite them up anyway

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales April 22, 2015 10:07 PM  

@Niccolò Arminius


Okay, does anyone here know where to get good information on edible plants and the like around the country and whether it's best to go for round capacity or stopping power and what some of the most common ammunition types you're likely to see are?

Also, does anyone know how to get pain tolerance training, because my whole life, I've been something of a pain averse hedonist before finding out about Conservatism, Christ, and etc.

Anonymous BGS April 22, 2015 10:11 PM  

Okay, does anyone here know where to get good information on edible plants and the like around the country and whether it's best to go for round capacity or stopping power and what some of the most common ammunition types you're likely to see are?

survivalblog

Anonymous The other robot April 22, 2015 10:11 PM  

Pretty soon the government will kill you for not wearing red high heels.

Anonymous Roundtine April 22, 2015 10:15 PM  

he fact that even a single ROTC candidate member was willing to go along with the program demonstrates how hapless the future officer corps is going to be.

The ROTC guys were told they had to participate (they do not), they were threatened with losing their scholarships if they refused, and they were told not to post/complain about it on the Internet. It also wasn't just ASU, this was done at a Texas school and somewhere else.

Anonymous Godfrey April 22, 2015 10:20 PM  

Let me get this right, a woman officer humiliating male soldiers will make the male soldiers respect women more and thus make rape less likely. Anyone else see a problem with the logic here?

I expect a dramtic increase in rapes in the coming months.

Anonymous zen0 April 22, 2015 10:21 PM  

At one time I was a member of the United Fishermen and Allied Workers' Union .

The leader was a Commie who had to go to jail for a year for supporting some action by the union.

I had to take an oath to become a member.

Now, obviously I am not a lefty sympathizer, but at least these guys looked after their own, and were ready to go to war about it.

Where is the friggin soldier's union? Is it illegal? So was Sodomy, not that long ago.
Get on it, FFS!

Anonymous paradox April 22, 2015 10:28 PM  

Want an M14... skip Springfield, out of spec and investment cast receiver. Go with a forged receiver from LRB Arms. A more affordable option is a PT91. The PR91 isn't a perfect rifle, but it's a great budget rifle, magazine are also inexpensive.

Anonymous American Kulak April 22, 2015 10:35 PM  

Reading headlines like these makes me thank God the U.S. (and other great powers) still have nuclear weapons. Those are the only reasons I don't see the current neocon crazies not going ahead and sending U.S. troops to eastern Ukraine or better yet directly attacking Crimea together with a suicidal contigent of Ukrainian Nazis. Fortunately I doubt even the Poles and Lithuanians would obey criminal orders to commit an act of war against Russia by blockading the Baltic exclave of Kaliningrad -- Poles are brave, stubborn people but not Russophobic to the point of eagerly becoming Washington's kamikazes, judging by how adamantly Warsaw has denied that a single one of its soldiers or pilots has fought as a 'vacationer' for Kiev.

So that basically leaves the U.S. with the option of re-training the Ukrainians, peppering their ranks with more mercenaries, and making another big push on Donetsk and Lugansk hoping to achieve some sort of 'breakthrough'. As always @noclador and the other pyscho Ukro-trolls will trumpet the advance of a few kilometers as a spectacular victory, and ignore the subsequent encirclement and killing of thousands of Ukrainian troops. Once yet another humiliating defeat for Washington's proxy army becomes undeniable and the Novorossiya Armed Forces (NAF) and Russian volunteers release pictures of the Ukrainian bodies stacked like cordwood, the Kyiv Post will admit Ukraine might've lost a couple hundred guys while Poroshenko will claim an orderly retreat of only 11 heroic KIA who died killing bazillions of Russian invaders. Then the Ukro-trolls will blame it on 'Russian traitors/sympathizers' in the Ukrainian high command and Obama being a coward. They will be half right, of course -- Obama like NATO is ready and eager to fight Donbass and Russia to the last Ukrainian. But yes in the event God forbid that the neocons go sufficiently crazy that they decide sending American troops to Donbass is a great idea, the Russian Army will cut them off and chew them up so fast it will be Washington, and not Russia, that will use nukes first to salve wounded pride. Again, I say all of this as a patriotic American disgusted and apalled by what our nation has become. Russia will never invade any NATO country but if NATO attacks them even sufficiently by proxy through Ukraine or some sort of Moldovan-Romanian anschluss they will annhilate the attackers and send plenty of their 'denied' advisers and mercs home in body bags, such that the Pentagon will have to make up a Taliban attack in Afghanistan that never happened to explain the planeload of Gruz200s landing at Dover from Borispol airport in Kiev. Nukes are, thank God, also the main reason we also won't see the Chinese ever sink one of our supercarriers and most of its escorts with a single anti-shipping ballistic missile barrage in an afternoon.

Anonymous Sam the man April 22, 2015 10:43 PM  

Couple of comments:

1) The Brigadiers uniform shows she was airborne, air-assault and what appears to be at least one battle star, though the clarity of the picture is insufficient to see it. She does have the overseas badge. I am frankly surprised to see the Air assault and airborne badge, those schools used to be only open to combat arms, and as such the courses were real ball busters. In particular in the air-assault course there was a final march with full pack and weapon that was timed. It was an infantry course and no push over to get the badge; I doubt even a reasonably fit over 38 could do it, you would just be too worn down after 2 weeks. I do not see how a woman could do the course, and the pack was just too heavy.

2) Airborne school is (was?) far worse. I do not see how a woman could get through that course, at least the one at Fort Benning. Young fit men at the peak of their fitness fail. I smell a rat……..

3) The ROTC students could have gotten out of this. Here is how:

The uniform and its wear are dictated by AR 670-1. If it is not in AR 670-1 it is not authorized, period. The exceptions to normal Army wear are all dictated in there, including those uniform differences that ROTC students are allowed, such as in insignia, badges, etc, are clearly specified.

Now as officer cadets, they are supposed to be aware of the concept of an unlawful order. Now while normally you must obey orders without hesitation, there are circumstances where you are allowed to ignore them. For example if you are in formation at parade rest and an officer or NCO commands any facing movement, you ignore it and stand fast, until such time as the officer or NCO brings you to a state of attention. You actually ignore the order until such time as the individual commanding the formation realizes his mistakes.

So what they could have done, was no one show up to formation in red shoes, or any individual who objected not show up in red shoes but in the correct footgear (boots). Now when challenged, (if challenged) your response was that you thought it was a test, as the wearing of red shoes is not authorized in AR 670-1 you ignored and illegal order. I assure you the NCO’s would be very amused and while they would know you are saying “f--k you” to the order, they will be on your side and seriously use this as an opportunity to forward the “f--k you” up the chain of command, in the way long suffering NCOs do (unless the NCO corps has changed a lot)

Now you have put the person who put out this order in a difficult position: If they ignore it they have made a mess of the command structure, as willful disobedience is counter to good discipline and cannot be ignored, especially if the entire formation ignored the order. If they attempt to punish the Cadet(s) in a formal charge they will reveal she gave an unauthorized order that is against published ARs and as such unlawful. The cadets have a very good defense, in that as officers they could reasonably think this was a test and by disobeying the order they were actually showing good judgement, which is really officers are trained to do (be decisive and show good judgement). Once this got into the command channel they would have lost their commission or their scholarship, unless the Army has changed completely, which I very much doubt. If the C—t tried to pull a real shitty low down trick they can always demand a court hearing (not sure if this applies to ROTC). There are a great many officers and NCOs who care about the Army, care about what it stands for and are completely aghast at this piece of S--t and her little b---h order.

Anonymous zen0 April 22, 2015 10:50 PM  

@ American Kulak

Nukes are, thank God, also the main reason we also won't see the Chinese ever sink one of our supercarriers and most of its escorts with a single anti-shipping ballistic missile barrage in an afternoon.

Don't over think this stuff. We are simply talking about the red shoe parade here.. Save it for the next Ukie thread.

Anonymous Phuc Yu April 22, 2015 10:53 PM  

@American Kulak

Relax, Joe Biden's son in in the Ukraine. What could go wrong?

Anonymous The other robot April 22, 2015 11:04 PM  

I hope Defense Distributed manage to build more of their CNC machines.

Nice video as well.

Anonymous frenchy April 22, 2015 11:20 PM  

@ Sam the Man,

Your assessment of AA and AB school is off the mark. AA school is not just for combat arms. I went through it as an AROTC cadet ('94). Don't recall the ruck being heavy at all. The 12 mile ruck march at the end is the typical standard for any 12 mile ruck march. 12 miles in 3 hours. 35lbs if I recall correctly. AA school is more academic, but that's it. One thing can be said about AA school is that it's harder to get because of the fewer number of slots.

As for AB school. AB school is far easier. As long as you don't get hurt, most graduate...even Air Force people. There's nothing academic about it. As long as you can run and do pull ups, it's easy.

She's wearing those awards, likely because she earned them.

Anonymous Jack Amok April 22, 2015 11:40 PM  

We've gone from "Your momma wears Army boots!" to "Your daddy wears Army fuck-me pumps!" Fantastic.

Stilicho, this is part of what I meant by needing people both willing and able to conduct 0GW. Hard to conduct any generation of warfare in heels.

Of course, they could always try the absolutely foolproof plan of ending rape and sexual assault within the military by banning women and homosexuals.

It looks like their plan is to end rape by banning men with enough testosterone to have interest in sex.

Anonymous p-dawg April 22, 2015 11:56 PM  

@The other robot: Just make sure you ask them to ship it to you in a plain, brown box. Otherwise the major carriers won't touch it.

Anonymous WowJustWow April 23, 2015 12:07 AM  

I own a Garand. The problem is that you have to shoot FMJ. Many ranges no longer allow same.

Anonymous TroperA April 23, 2015 12:28 AM  

...There are a great many officers and NCOs who care about the Army, care about what it stands for and are completely aghast at this piece of S--t and her little b---h order.

You don't understand. The purpose of this little ritual was to weed out anyone who would protest their participation in it. Protesting it would have only served to cut the offending cadets military careers short.

As long as the lunatics are in charge of the asylum at the highest levels, there will be no way to change the system from the inside....

Anonymous scoobius dubious April 23, 2015 12:42 AM  

"No one has made a Ruby Slippers comment, really?"

Wouldn't be out of place,but "Red-Heeled Guards" is funnier and more to the point, so, short answer is: matter resolved efficienty. Next!


Anonymous Noah B April 23, 2015 12:42 AM  

Thats what they want you to think Troper. The cadets should have refused and filed sexual harassment complaints. Always fight back.

Anonymous Curtis April 23, 2015 12:55 AM  

So that basically leaves the U.S. with the option of re-training the Ukrainians, peppering their ranks with more mercenaries, and making another big push on Donetsk and Lugansk hoping to achieve some sort of 'breakthrough'.

Naw. I sent my friends over there some pictures of this as a moral booster. "LOL. Pussies"

Anonymous Curtis April 23, 2015 1:02 AM  

The PR91 isn't a perfect rifle, but it's a great budget rifle, magazine are also inexpensive.

Well shit, a sledge hammer is even less expensive.

Don't listen to this tripe. If your life, your family, your friends, are worth anything to you, invest. Sell something if you have too!

Here I lie dead, with my family and friends. Because of budget crap.

Anonymous Rolf April 23, 2015 1:18 AM  

So what are the EO folks planning on doing to publicly humiliate the women ROTC members and make them understand what sort of harassment men face?

If they are not distributing the embarrassment equally, but are targeting men because of their sex, then they might be able to file charges for willful sexual harassment.

Anonymous Discard April 23, 2015 1:27 AM  

It was a long time ago that I read "To Hell and Back", but IIRC, Audie Murphy (WW2 hero with a bajillion medals, for you young uns) carried an M-1 carbine, by choice.
The best gun is the one that works for you.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus April 23, 2015 1:32 AM  

They're trying to get into a politically correct organization that they know values diversity over their lives.

Here's the political correctness. It's what they wanted. They should enjoy it.

Blogger Danby April 23, 2015 1:47 AM  

@Discard,
to be fair, Murphy was 5'5" and about 90 lbs, so a full-size M1 would have been like shooting a motorcycle for him. Or one of the weapons action figures always have.

Blogger Matt April 23, 2015 5:55 AM  

I wonder what parts of the country those "soldiers" are from. What their stories are. I just cant imagine a good ol boy agreeing to it.

Blogger guest April 23, 2015 7:51 AM  

"Tonstant Weader Fwowed up."--Dorothy Parker

Blogger Jourdan April 23, 2015 9:14 AM  

Hi all - Long time USG employee here, and I work frequently with my DoD colleagues.

I could (and probably should) write a book on this theme, but since I'm coming to this thread late, I'll keep it very short and as simple as possible.

USG is broken and is slavishly devoted to an internationalist liberal ideology. Anyone who is seeking to become a commissioned officer in its ranks either knows this or is rapidly on their way to knowing it. No doubt there are some in this instance who are thinking "sure, this is a little humiliating, but it's for a good cause, and I can be a strong warrior and still take this stance, after all it's these women I'm protecting." They are young.

After years of trying to fight the good fight from the inside, I am done. I'm making plans to leave right now. I could write all day and all night and still not exhaust a description of how badly broken USG is. It is *done*.

The only remaining question is how much harm it will impose domestically and internationally before some good men take it out.

Anonymous Athor Pel April 23, 2015 9:22 AM  

If you wanted to lower recruitment and retention rates then this kind of story is certainly a good way to do it.

I know more than a few veterans that no longer recommend young folks join the military, myself included. And this PC crap is part of it.

Anonymous CarpeOro April 23, 2015 9:46 AM  

"Here is a picture of the Cadet Corps Commander

You already know, where this is going."

If you check through some links you can see her CV. I recall when I was in the military how the Air Force was known for awarding ribbons for breathing. When I see she has a Bronze Star and recall a friend who served in Vietnam and had one for COMBAT, I have to say that I have lost what little respect I may have for the Army's, scratch that and make it all the armed forces. leadership at the command level. Sadly, history shows only a major war can purge it to the extent required to return sanity. I see no chance of the USA winning that war however, and after the many foreign adventures of the last century and a half expect us to fully reap what has been sown.

Blogger Jourdan April 23, 2015 10:08 AM  

I agree that it is clear that U.S. forces would lose badly in any real war right now. However, that has always been the case with U.S. forces. It is usually only after a year in a major war that the b.s. has been tossed (including flag rank nobodies) and the sheer industrial/human organizational might of the U.S. focuses on task. Even in the "Good War" our forces were terrible for a year, and got kicked around North Africa pretty damn good before we pulled our collective heads out. Same was true early on in Korea, and Bull Run, and etc. etc.

Now, that said, it may be that this country no longer has the reserve of will or cohesion to make the forces good on the fly as we have in history. I know that I would not /NOT allow any one of my three sons to fight for USG for any reason whatsoever. Time will tell, I suppose.

Anonymous Stilicho April 23, 2015 10:21 AM  

Airborne school is (was?) far worse. I do not see how a woman could get through that course, at least the one at Fort Benning. Young fit men at the peak of their fitness fail. I smell a rat……..

You're dating yourself, Sam. Jump school has been a joke for a long time and women have been regular attendees for decades. Once upon a time, it was used not just as a skill training school, but also a a rigorous screening course... a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away... Col. Kratman can probably give you the play by play of its decline. Please note, though, that this woman would have had to go through jump school when there was an outright prohibition on women in combat units, so that alone should tell you that it was used for some time as a check-the-box, help-you-get-promoted, status marker that was openly wasting taxpayer money (since the women would never use the training in any meaningful way) so women (and other non-combatants, to be fair) could feel good about themselves and pretend to be warriors. Because uterus.

Anonymous DKViking April 23, 2015 10:43 AM  

I wonder why Americans think the rot is deeper in Europe. Isn't it primarily the Anglo Saxon countries who have succumbed to immigration and political correctness, not that mainland Europe is far behind, but behind none the less.

Anonymous John Smallberries April 23, 2015 11:15 AM  

I'll second the plug for the LRB M-14 clone. Forged receiver is very solid and all USGI parts (or equivalent-quality repros) if you have them build your rifle.

One thing about the M-14 is that it's hard to scope. The cantilever mount is not ideal at all and do not cheap out on it with a Chinese-made part. The Smith Enterprises mount is probably the best, though spendy. An alternative is to get the M-25 LRB rifle, which has a scope mount machined into the top of the receiver fore and aft. You lose the ability to use stripper clips, but it's a good trade, IMO. The iron sights are essentially Garand sights and can be a bit finicky to set up, but once done, quite accurate and good sight picture. A NM front sight post is a good investment. Fred's M-14 stocks (creator of Appleseed) has some good material on sighting in, marksmanship basics, etc. until you can get to an Appleseed (also recommended as a starting point).

But, get more training of course. There are several "run and gun" events around the country that are worth the time and expense to get you and your rifle familiar with operating in field conditions. No, it's not AIT or anything, but why waste money on $$$$ high-speed tactical classes if you can't even hump 10K with your rifle and gear without blowing a gasket. Baby steps...

I don't think the HK-91/G3 is THAT bad.It's not great by any means, but it's the AK of 7.62x51 battle rifles. Trigger pull ranges from tolerable to abysmal. Ergonomics suck and the iron sights, while OK, only go out to 400m, stupid. Probably best to scope it with a low-power fixed scope and go from there.

Blogger Marissa April 23, 2015 11:56 AM  

When I see she has a Bronze Star and recall a friend who served in Vietnam and had one for COMBAT

From Wikipedia, "The Bronze Star Medal is awarded only to service members in combat who are receiving imminent danger pay."

What they don't say is you can get imminent danger pay for doing clerical work on an air-conditioned base in a warzone.

Anonymous Stilicho April 23, 2015 11:57 AM  

One thing about the M-14 is that it's hard to scope. The cantilever mount is not ideal at all and do not cheap out on it with a Chinese-made part. The Smith Enterprises mount is probably the best, though spendy.

The Fulton Armory mount is the best in my opinion (definitely better than Springfield's) and it is designed to allow simultaneous use of the iron sights. It sits high, so you'll need a high cheek rest as well. About $250.

Blogger natschuster April 23, 2015 12:13 PM  

I really don't understand feminists. Men use to teacher their sons to respect women. The worst thing a boy could do was hit a girl. Men were expected to be gentlemen in the presence of a lady. Then the feminists came along and changed all that. They said that all this is patronizing, demeaning, women can take care of themselves, etc. They even said that boys don't need fathers to teach them proper behavior. Many men took them at their word. Now the feminists are complaining about the consequences.Do they really expect things like this silly drag walk to undo all the damage that they did? The least they could do is acknowledge that they are at least partially to blame.

Blogger Cui Pertinebit April 23, 2015 12:27 PM  

Are we sure the photo is legit? Only a few of the men seem to be wearing them - the ones most easily retouchable. Looking closely, the shoes do not look real at all, and the shadows on the ground do not seem to match.

I know that I would refuse to comply with this, even under direct orders and the threat of dishonorable discharge. My brother took a discharge from the service rather than suffer the incompetence of the spate of women who were unworthily promoted over him for PR purposes. I still believe that most men in the service would refuse to do this under anything but mocking or jocular circumstances.

Blogger Tom Kratman April 23, 2015 12:45 PM  

My take on this monday on everyjoe.

Anonymous Supernaut April 23, 2015 12:49 PM  

Why do you women wear heels in the first place?

Lordosis.

From Wikipedia: "The anthropologist Helen Fisher speculates that when a human female wears high-heeled footwear, the buttocks thrust out and the back arches into a pose that simulates lordosis behavior, which is why high heels are considered "sexy".[25]"

To signal fertility and readiness to mate.

This is an exercise in training soldiers to BOHICA.

Anonymous Stilicho April 23, 2015 12:52 PM  

My take on this monday on everyjoe.

M1 vs M14?

Pumps vs Flats?

Red vs Lavender?

Crucifixion vs Impalement (for the Generalette)?

Blogger Marissa April 23, 2015 1:01 PM  

Are we sure the photo is legit?

Yes, they posted it on the Temple ROTC Facebook page. A few guys have left comments about it. It's definitely real.

Anonymous Curtis April 23, 2015 1:38 PM  

One thing about the M-14 is that it's hard to scope.

Why do you want to scope your M14/A1? The only reason I can see, is that you want to be tacti-cool and/or a "sniper". And you will never be a "sniper" unless you have been through, and passed, the military's sniper school. Hunting deer, bears, coons, and squirrels does not, and never will, make you a combat sniper. The vast majority of hunters will never make that 1,000 yard shot. Crap, the vast majority of trained snipers have not made a 1,000 yard kill. The vast majority of your contact is going to be zero to 600 yards. If you can't hit your target at any of those ranges iron sight... then there is your problem right there.

If you absolutely have to have a scope, then get an M4 or A10 flat top. If you really, really, really want to be a "sniper", then get a bolt. But I would suggest, going up a combat trained group, after that first/second shot, hit or miss, you move far, far, away.

Separate fantasy from reality. A man better know his limitations, before someone better shows him his limitations.

Blogger Tom Kratman April 23, 2015 2:28 PM  

M21?

Anonymous Stilicho April 23, 2015 2:39 PM  

Ha, nice choice. That's basically what I converted my M1A into.

Anonymous John Smallberries April 23, 2015 2:53 PM  

Dear Curtis (i.e. whippersnapper...get off my lawn while you're at it),

While I realize everyone on the internet who has scoped a rifle is a Carlos Hathcock, some of us getting up in years can't quite focus on the front sight as well as we used to, aka the arms become too short to read a menu easily.

For those of us in the Geritol set, a piece of glass becomes a necessity, thanks very much, 'cause it brings the target into the same plane of focus as the reticle.

No matter how in shape the cardiovascular system is, the eyeball elongation or shortening is something that happens to most people sooner or later. You'll get there no doubt, but in the meantime, enjoy your ability to give a flea a colonoscopy at 600 yards with a MatchKing using iron sights while it lasts.

OpenID cailcorishev April 23, 2015 3:01 PM  

I recall when I was in the military how the Air Force was known for awarding ribbons for breathing.

I caught part of Heartbreak Ridge the other day, and had to chuckle at the part where the guys in the platoon, despite being disrespectful goof-offs, expressed awe when they heard that Eastwood's character had received the Congressional Medal of Honor. I don't know if that one's been as devalued as all the others, but that seems to be the safe default assumption about medals these days.

Anonymous Stilicho April 23, 2015 3:11 PM  

in the meantime, enjoy your ability to give a flea a colonoscopy at 600 yards with a MatchKing using iron sights while it lasts.

I, for one, enjoyed his recommendation to put a scope on an M4 for those that really want a scoped semi auto

OpenID cailcorishev April 23, 2015 3:15 PM  

Jump school has been a joke for a long time and women have been regular attendees for decades.

There's a process that all these dumbing-down, left-shifting changes go through, which is pretty consistent across all fields:

1. Someone suggests a radical left-wing change (women in combat, for instance).

2. Conservatives react, make excellent arguments against it, there's a kerfuffle on talk radio and TV roundtable shows, and it's a bit of a national topic for a while.

3. It dies down, any actual bills introduced or regulations suggested are dropped, and normal people assume cooler heads prevailed and it's not going to happen. Late night talk show hosts joke about it as a silly idea, and people forget about it.

4. Bureaucrats go ahead and quietly do it anyway.

5. People wake up one morning and discover that the radical change they thought was a joke some years ago has now been institutionalized -- and has been in place for so long that it's considered the norm and people have won medals based on it.

That's how it always happens. They don't win the big, open battles. They use those to build morale, but they take actual power through entryism and being the ones who write the memos and run HR departments.

Blogger Noah B April 23, 2015 3:19 PM  

A quality scope helps you see better, even if you're young. The difference in low light conditions is staggering.

But be prepared to spend almost as much on optics as the rifle costs, if not more. And it adds weight and is one more thing that can break.

Blogger Marissa April 23, 2015 3:29 PM  

Congressional Medal of Honor

It's just Medal of Honor, FYI. No need to sully the award by adding Congress to the title.

Anonymous Amok Time April 23, 2015 3:30 PM  

George Patton would be exhausted from slapping all those lily livered cowrds!!! And, cowards in the sense they did not say no to this humbling display concoted by feminists.

Anonymous Anonymous April 23, 2015 3:47 PM  

WowJustWow:

Some Garands are more tolerant of projectiles with exposed lead at the tip than others. That having been said, there are some bullets of softpoint construction that have minimal exposed lead up front. Remington Core-Lokt softpoints, for example.

Solid monolithic copper or gilding metal hollowpoints are available from Barnes and Hornady, and have no exposed lead at the tip to hang up on the feedramp. There's also a 165gr hunting type hollowpoint bullet from Sierra that has no exposed lead at the tip and tends to give very good accuracy.

If your Garand won't work with those, there are a number of bullets of hollowpoint construction with a plastic plug in the hollowpoint cavity to aid in feeding. You could try handloads with the Hornady AMAX, Hornady SST, or Nosler Ballistic Tip.

There are also the boattail hollowpoint match bullets from various makers, which sometimes deform or fragment in soft tissue and sometimes do not, but which often (though not always) perform somewhat better than ball, at least from a perspective of soft tissue disruption. The 175gr Sierra MatchKing is known for yawing and fragmenting in soft tissue, for example, though it's a bit heavy for milspec loads in the '06. If you handload, of course, you probably know how finicky the Garand's gas system is; it's not very tolerant of ammunition differing significantly from the old M2 Ball spec--150gr bullet, 50.0gr of pre-1970 IMR4895 powder. That having been said, there is plenty of "service rifle" load data out there for the '06 cartridge, both on the Internet and in printed manuals, and which is tested and verified both safe and reliably functional in the Garand.

There are also some Garands out there that have been rebarreled in 7.62x51mm. I own one. With a handload of the 168gr Hornady AMAX over 43.0gr IMR4064 and Federal large rifle match primers, it shoots better than I can hold.

Anonymous Stilicho April 23, 2015 3:56 PM  

There are also some Garands out there that have been rebarreled in 7.62x51mm.

Didn't know that. What a great idea, though. Any modifications needed on the internal magazine?

Anonymous Curtis April 23, 2015 5:16 PM  

...but in the meantime, enjoy your ability to give a flea a colonoscopy at 600 yards with a MatchKing using iron sights while it lasts.

Well, that was cute. I've never hit a flea's ass with any rifle. Although I can hit a golf-ball, repeatedly (but, OMG I do SOMETIMES miss), on a windless day at 200 yards with a scoped bolt 22 mag. So, you can calm down.

Just don't put a scope on a standard M14/1A. Hell, you can do whatever you want, just a suggestion.

Get an Trijicon ACOG. And put it on the proper platform. Just don't get tunnel vision.

And, I am near sighted, wear glasses, and do just fine out to 600 yards with my iron sight M1A with or without my glasses. Note: I didn't say I hit flea's in the ass.

Find a platform, in NATO, become proficient with it. And it won't hurt to trade off with your buddies weapon and become familiar with it.

As for a Garand, if it is all I had. But I would change out to an M4-M14/1A, even an AK, first chance I had. Like one laying in the battlefield.

Anyhow, do what you want.

Anonymous Curtis April 23, 2015 5:30 PM  

If you just want to talk guns, here you are.

If you want to talk combat and weapons:

http://www.maxvelocitytactical.com/

https://mountainguerrilla.wordpress.com/

Blogger Danby April 23, 2015 6:14 PM  

@John Smallberries
Try a peep sight. It's amazing how much depth of field I get on my SMLE with peep sights.

Anonymous Discard April 23, 2015 6:57 PM  

Cailcorishev: The Medal of Honor has been politicized at least since the Clinton regime. To make up for the dearth of Orientals with the MoH, he gave them 19. In one day. I think 18 of them went to members of the 442nd RCT, the WW2 Japanese-American unit.
How it is that one single regiment warranted about 3.5% of all the MoH awarded to the Army, Navy, Marines, and Army Air Force during WW2 escapes me.
BTW, the soldiers shot by the Moslem psychiatrist at Fort Hood will all be getting Purple Hearts soon. How being shot by a commissioned officer of the U.S. Army counts as an injury due to enemy action, as the Purple Heart requires, also escapes me.

Blogger Noah B April 23, 2015 7:44 PM  

And it's nice how Hassan hasn't even been tried for the Fort Hood shooting yet. It's almost like the commander in chief doesn't give a damn.

Blogger The Overgrown Hobbit April 23, 2015 10:39 PM  

Q: why would any sensible woman wear 3" red heels?
A: Because her husband asked her to?

"walk a mile in her shoes?" what kind of sexist asshat thinks women are so stupid they wear fancy dress for hikes?

It's hard to believe this isn't an Onion spoof or one of those tests like counting the no.of bricks it takes to complete the square outside wossname hall. (I know one navy admiral who failed that one)

Anonymous Anonymous April 24, 2015 7:13 AM  

Stilicho:

Garands have been getting converted to 7.62x51mm since the early 1960s. The Navy Rifle Team developed the technique. There is a bit more to it than just installing a different barrel; the gas pressure curves of the two cartridges differ significantly, as the 7.62x51mm military ammunition typically uses spherical propellants somewhat slower than IMR4895 or IMR4064, and the 7.62x51mm barrels require a wider gas port for positive function with milspec ammunition.

Spacers are available preventing loading a clip of .30/06 ammunition in such a converted Garand but are optional. Obviously, a .30/06 round is half an inch too long to fit into a 7.62x51mm chamber. Clips of 7.62x51mm ammunition do sometimes end up in a Garand in the original .30/06 caliber, which sometimes results in split or broken cases, but usually not damage to the rifle, in the incidents of which I've heard.

For what it's worth, I've also heard of Garands being converted to 7.92x57mm Mauser, 7x57mm Mauser, and a wildcat 6.5mm cartridge based on a necked-down .30/06 case, in each instance built to shoot a significant stockpile of surplus ammunition that the owner had acquired, or, for that last one, because the owner was a wildcat cartridge enthusiast and an enormous fan of the 6.5mm/06 cartridge, which he apparently also used to hunt in various bolt-action rifles.

Anonymous Stilicho April 24, 2015 12:00 PM  

@anon: thanks. I never realized there was so much modification going on with the Garand. The owners I've dealt with have been the purist varieties (historical purist or milspec competition purists). I shouldn't be surprised though; there isn't a platform out there that the people of the gun don't think they can improve in some fashion or another. And we're often right.

Blogger Tom Kratman April 24, 2015 4:03 PM  

Discard, I think we do it by treating that first shout of "Allahu akbar" as a tacit resignation from the Army and enlistment oath with the enemy.

Anonymous Discard April 25, 2015 12:48 AM  

Tom Kratman: I imagine that the first shot fired should be treated as an explicit resignation.
I have come to think that the service academies should be shut down for a few years, to purge them of whatever it is that allowed our current crop of flag officers to graduate. Maybe require three years as an enlisted man in the infantry before admission, with combat service mandatory if there's any war on.
Cowardice is inexcusable in an officer.

Anonymous Anonymous Cowherd April 28, 2015 4:25 PM  

"walk a mile in her shoes?" what kind of sexist asshat thinks women are so stupid they wear fancy dress for hikes?

Some officer chick?

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