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Wednesday, April 29, 2015

Who needs that pesky "civilization" anyhow?

Apparently we need to readjust our vocabularies again. It's no longer white/yellow/red/brown separatism, it's just militant-shaming.
As a nation, we fail to comprehend Black political strategy in much the same way we fail to recognize the value of Black life.

We see ghettos and crime and absent parents where we should see communities actively struggling against mental health crises and premeditated economic exploitation. And when we see police cars being smashed and corporate property being destroyed, we should see reasonable responses to generations of extreme state violence, and logical decisions about what kind of actions yield the desired political results.

I’m overwhelmed by the pervasive slandering of protesters in Baltimore this weekend for not remaining peaceful....We need to clarify what we mean by terms like “violence” and “peaceful.” Because, to be clear, violence is beating, harassing, tazing, assaulting and shooting Black, trans, immigrant, women, and queer people, and that is the reality many of us are dealing with daily. Telling someone to be peaceful and shaming their militance not only lacks a nuanced and historical political understanding, it is literally a deadly and irresponsible demand.

The political goals of rioters in Baltimore are not unclear—just as they were not unclear when poor, Black people rioted in Ferguson last fall. When the free market, real estate, the elected government, the legal system have all shown you they are not going to protect you—in fact, that they are the sources of the greatest violence you face—then political action becomes about stopping the machine that is trying to kill you, even if only for a moment, getting the boot off your neck, even if it only allows you a second of air. This is exactly what blocking off streets, disrupting white consumerism, and destroying state property are designed to do.

Black people know this, and have employed these tactics for a very, very long time. Calling them uncivilized, and encouraging them to mind the Constitution is racist, and as an argument fails to ground itself not only in the violent political reality in which Black people find themselves, but also in our centuries-long tradition of resistance, one that has taught effective strategies for militance and direct action to virtually every other current movement for justice.
There is your choice, white America. Racism, aka "civilization and the Constitution" or living amongst an entitled and vibrant population that feels entirely justified in burning down the city around itself. I think it's long past time for forced integration. But not for schoolchildren, for those who claim to oppose separatism. Let's bus every self-professed "anti-racist" to Baltimore and make them live and work there.

They seem to think all of White America would rather die than be called racist. And they're probably not wrong about the SJWs. But what the advocates of multiculturalism forgot is that Mexicans and Asians despise blacks in a way that few whites ever have, and they feel absolutely no guilt for the so-called "legacy of slavery".

And if you're going to try to make American Indians feel guilty about racial separatism, well, good luck with that.

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Anonymous NateM April 29, 2015 8:07 AM  

"violence is beating, harassing, tazing, assaulting and shooting Black, trans, immigrant, women, and queer people,"


So, beating, harassing, tazing, assaulting and shooting men of any other race is permissable? You heard it here first.

Blogger CM April 29, 2015 8:09 AM  

Violence bad... for you. But not for me.

I didn't think they'd ever go there.

Blogger Matt April 29, 2015 8:11 AM  

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you The Matriarchy.

Anonymous PA April 29, 2015 8:13 AM  

They've lost control of the narrative and they know it. It doesn't help their cause that the rioters aren't marching solemnly and singing "we shall overcome." Instead they look like they're having a great time, whooping and grinning like retarded baboons.

The r-selected don't care about their martyrs of the future of their people. Nationalism is a K-selected ideology. The r's are motivated solely by their base appetites or by the prospect of harming their perceived betters. Ascribing noble ideals to rioters is SJWs anthropomophizing the rioters.

Blogger Matt April 29, 2015 8:14 AM  

I think we need to respect the niggaz feelings with to and in regards along with nearations of whiteness.

Blogger David April 29, 2015 8:16 AM  

The writer at Salon once again fails to realize that tolerance never extended to those who insult us, scream in our faces, hijack our kids' education or damage our property.

We, the side of order, vastly outnumber and out-muscle the forces of chaos and dissolution. The days of tolerating intolerable encroachment on OUR lives are at an end.

Anonymous buzzcut April 29, 2015 8:18 AM  

So now "black" is always capitalized, but "white" is not?

Anonymous Harsh April 29, 2015 8:18 AM  

Next time Scalzi cries racism ask him why he doesn't move from whitey white Ohio to vibrant ol' Baltimore.

Anonymous observable fact man April 29, 2015 8:21 AM  

It's nice to finally see the gloves come off. As someone who is not on the list of approved special interests I fully accept my designation as an enemy combatant in the coming troubles. I also accept that the Constitution and it's protections were created for and belong to "us" and that "they" have ceded their obligation to live under it's protections and responsibilities.

Anonymous PA April 29, 2015 8:24 AM  

Remember when Salon was an interesting magazine with talented writers? This was in the late 90s. Camille Paglia was a major contributor, before tapering her involvement down to a biweekly column (with comment threads full of outraged idiot feminists).

Now, it's become a click bait and a literal ghetto with zero reason for anyone, regardless of politics, to read.

Blogger David April 29, 2015 8:26 AM  

The cities are gone. Everywhere those whose inability to join civil society cluster will likely burn, until such places are ringed to create what amounts to "Escape from New York."

The vast majority of people desire order first and foremost. They will live in slavery under the heels of tyrants rather than endure continuous chaos.

For this reason alone, every spasm of chaos simply primes the pump for a violent elimination of anything associated with disorder, and it won't matter one bit WHY the individual cells of chaos-production couldn't fit in.

This is why the whole "search for deeper causes and meanings" Narrative is doomed to ignominy.

Blogger Shimshon April 29, 2015 8:35 AM  

Another instance of SJWs denying that "us vs them" exists. The blacks are on board with it. The whites gesticulate wildly and deny it. But they deny it by saying, look, you're (vibrantly rioting youth) one of us. We've got hate and injustice going on here too. Just ask that perverted freak over there.

Hey! Why'd you shoot me? We're on the same team!

Anonymous MrGreenMan April 29, 2015 8:36 AM  

Didn't these people read their social contracts??

Anonymous Maria Hatchback April 29, 2015 8:38 AM  

For the record, this will end on the 3rd of May.

That is the day that the benefits cards are loaded by Uncle FedGov.

Exact same scenario as the '92 LA uprising. Start at the end of the mumf when the bennies run out, full retreat when the money spigot gets turned back on.

Anonymous AlteredFate April 29, 2015 8:38 AM  

This is what they want. This is what they get. I for one will not forget that it was the leftist Whites that brought in and sustained this infestation of savages. And when the SHTF the uncontrollable vibrants will be the least of their worries.

Anonymous MrGreenMan April 29, 2015 8:40 AM  

The "we shall overcome" hymn singing blacks came from a generation where in the black churches, one could actually hear the Gospel proclaimed. This is a post-Christian black American culture. When you can put Rev Wright or Calypso Louie or Father Pfleger in the same pulpit and they don't say a thing that contradicts, not a one of them speaks the offense of the Gospel.

Blogger Matt April 29, 2015 8:42 AM  

Anyone who imagines the races can coexist all over one another is insane. Ive known a small handful of blacks who I would consider peers. And even then, only in the rarest of situations. On the grand scale theyre much less likely to grasp abstract ideas. You cant communicate with them on the same level. Its easier talking to a dumb white man than a reasonably intelligent black man, assuming the white man has a sufficient amount of testosterone. The women arent worth mwntioning. They dont belong here. They belong in Africa, mining gold for the rest of the world.

Yes Im aware Thomas Sowell exists. Im also aware of his very light skin.

Anonymous PhillipGeorge(c)2015 April 29, 2015 8:42 AM  

the banks, taxation, death.
the regress to tribalism is just a failure to identify the enemy.

step back, breath deeply, synagogue of satan.
Baltimore is no more news than Ukraine is news. It's just a scorpion on a frog river crossing scenario. Just a vampire who can't stop bleeding the donors.

Is there a way out? Punching a hole in time-space would be a way out. I don't know, it seems too late. Look upm I suppose, to the big clock on the wall, with nearly frozen hands.

Die well was a Roman meme. Jesus in Christendom. Cheers.

Anonymous King Louie the Baboon April 29, 2015 8:46 AM  

Instead they look like they're having a great time, whooping and grinning like retarded baboons.

Sirs,

I request you halt these slanderous attacks against my subjects. Not a single America city has every been attacked by even the most mentally deficient of my people, nor would they burn down their own homes around their ears simply to relieve a feelbad.

Frankly, the worst you can say about baboonic social interactions is a propensity to wave our posteriors around for all to see - a trait I admit we seem to share with the vibrant population in question - but that is hardly grounds for an indiscriminate and wholesale declaration of similarity!

In fact, I propose that replacing your vibrants with my own people would be beneficial to both our nations. While I cannot promise an increase to your commerce and industry upon our arrival, I can assure you that we certainly won't be any worse, with the added benefit that your social welfare jizya will be reduced from massive monetary payments and oppressive, anti-association laws to... a couple of crates of bananas and the occasional cleanup crew following a good shitsling.

Though impolite as it may be to point it out, let us be honest with each other - how far away are you from fecal matter being hurled through the streets, anyway? At least we'd be grateful for the opportunity.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler April 29, 2015 8:47 AM  

But they never talk about the Negroe Pathology. They don't know how to masculinize their boys or have any idea of Virtue. Rap Music and Hip Hop is gutter/jungle music of the worst kind. Music, the ghetto music, is very harmful.

Plato explicated the importance of music on how it forms the soul. Music carries Character. Socrates and Plato both pointed out that if you want beautiful people, you have to surround them in a beautiful environment. Beauty works on Beauty. What does Rap Music instill in Black people?

Rage. Hate. Discontent. Abnormality and Dysfunction. The Music is dysfunctional. So the people are dysfunctional who listen to it. What is the favorite music of Liberals? Jazz. Jazz is discompant music. It is ad lib music free from rules of music.

The Laws of Beauty is Proportion, Harmony and Symmetry. When music incorporates that, it implants its character upon the soul listening to it.

Rap, Hip Hop, Jazz (which has its origins in African music and in Negroe America) has very little of any of the above.

It is no wonder that the Negroe communities suffer from so much dysfunctionality. Top of with the Negroe's inablity to control his urges and we see a very dysfunctional race.

The South knew all of this and engaged in segregation and discrimination. It was the Jews that started the NAACP and encouraged and fed Negroe resistance, arrogancy and a bloated ideas of themselves. The Negroe is the shock troops for Jewish globalization, multiculturalism and European dissolution. They are pawns.

Look, the media is Jewish owned. It behooves them to work this up into a mess. They want this. They are increasing the hatred and blowing it up. They are feeding discontent and violence. They want it like that. Why the WASP is friends with the Jews I have no idea. The Jews have destroyed WASP America.

Political Correctness and Social Justice are all anti-civilizational. At their core. America is falling apart at the seams.

Anonymous Lulabelle April 29, 2015 8:55 AM  

"When the free market, real estate, the elected government, the legal system have all shown you they are not going to protect you—"

Real estate is supposed to protect you? I don't even know what that means.

Anonymous noname47 April 29, 2015 8:56 AM  

"... Calling them uncivilized, and encouraging them to mind the Constitution is racist...

Now that it's out in the open, what happens next? Will the ball be still in the uncivilized maybe partly savage court, or will the people who value their civilization finally stand up and draw a line?

Anyone who suckles from the nipple of Civilized Western society and decides to ignore the legal foundation of that nation should find themselves another wetnurse -- preferably, a place with a culture more in line to their violent mindset.

Blogger natschuster April 29, 2015 9:02 AM  

What I don;t get is why so much violence committed by Black people is directed at other Black people. For example, I just saw a video last night of two Black women duking at out over a parking space. It was just like an extreme fighting event without the actual talent. And the bystanders were having a gran time watching and videoing. Oh, and Jesse Jackson expressed a desire to geld Barak Obama.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus April 29, 2015 9:10 AM  

Hi Vox,

Question for you: I would like to ask permission to post up in this thread a cut-and-paste of a sample chapter I wrote for an idea for a novel about the coming collapse (and subsequent reconstruction along our lines). It actually is even tangentially related to the topic of this thread. I was wondering if I could get the Ilk's criticisms of it?

Anonymous p-dawg April 29, 2015 9:12 AM  

@natschuster: Shorter time preferences. Quest for status. Keeping it "real". Not acting white. Take your pick.

Blogger Cecil Henry April 29, 2015 9:15 AM  

Yes the SJW's and white anti-whites are to blame for this predicament.

They wanted it unapologetically. But how will you tell them apart when the 'SHFT' '

These types will go chameleon and hide in the background as soon as there are problems. They will even pretend to have seen these problems all along.

How will you hold them accountable??? No one in government or MSM are ever held to answer.

Blogger skiballa April 29, 2015 9:16 AM  

SJW logic: It's acceptable to imply the group as a whole are half savages, but not to refer to an individual.

Blogger Vox April 29, 2015 9:16 AM  

Question for you: I would like to ask permission to post up in this thread a cut-and-paste of a sample chapter I wrote for an idea for a novel about the coming collapse (and subsequent reconstruction along our lines). It actually is even tangentially related to the topic of this thread. I was wondering if I could get the Ilk's criticisms of it?

Put it on your own site and then put a link here.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus April 29, 2015 9:18 AM  

Put it on your own site and then put a link here.

Butbutbut I can't figure out how to do HTML!

Just kidding, will do!

Blogger Mr.MantraMan April 29, 2015 9:21 AM  

"White consumerism " now that is some spiffy racial theorizing aimed straight at white democratic party voter Urban Elf

Blogger B.J. April 29, 2015 9:23 AM  

I keep hearing that black people are "exploited" by whites. How exactly? They get free food, free housing, and free money. They have few productive jobs and they don't pay any taxes when they do work. So who is exploiting who?

More like the rich use the middle class money to pay the poor not to riot. Whoops, looks like that isn't working anymore...

Anonymous Discard April 29, 2015 9:23 AM  

White bitches want the Darkies to do their violence for them.

Blogger Chiva April 29, 2015 9:35 AM  

@ King Louie the Baboon

You Majesty, I hear your appeal and in the future I will refrain from associating the noble Baboon with any other lesser being.

Blogger YIH April 29, 2015 9:37 AM  

What this nutcase is doing is anthropomorphizing these [ahem] 'people'.
It's little different than imagining animals having human-like thoughts and human-like conversations:
This blogger dubbed it the "Beatrix Potter Fallacy.":
The implication is that the ghetto rioters have families much like one's own. Well, mostly, they don't. They don't have fathers, and their mothers are usually outrageously young and ignorant, and very often hooked on some damn thing or another. So asking where their parents are calls Ward and June Cleaver to mind and that doesn't apply at all. Taking this concept to ridiculous extremes, I'm reminded of children's books, like Peter Rabbit, wherein animals have human characteristics. They wear pants, have brothers and sisters and parents who give them advice and take care of them. They talk, of course, and have motivations and relationships just like people.
There is no ''political strategy'' in taking bundles of toilet paper or trashing a convenience store or grabbing some 'free' beer after a hurricane.
It's little different than any random dog chasing any random rabbit, there's no 'thought' behind it, they just do it.
This writer should stick to children's fiction where fawns have conversations with rabbits and skunks.

Anonymous trk April 29, 2015 9:37 AM  

Zulu gonna Zulu

Blogger Jay Lucas April 29, 2015 9:38 AM  

David (above) mentioned the walled city of Escape From
New York, but does it have to be a literal wall?

Why not create a tax wall system for major cities? If cities are goong to be a drain on resources, cut them off. Better to spend the money building up other, functioning communities that might be able to process the byproducts of a social infection than to keep pumping blood to a tumor.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus April 29, 2015 9:40 AM  

Socialist Wars 2016-2033: A History - Sample Chapter

Anonymous Poophat April 29, 2015 9:46 AM  

Turn the EBT cards off for a few weeks. Problem solves itself.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus April 29, 2015 9:48 AM  

Turn the EBT cards off for a few weeks. Problem solves itself.

Do that, and the rioting becomes ten times worse and spreads to the suburbs.

In the long run, might be what's needed to cleanse the area, but won't be pretty for any involved in the short term.

Blogger njartist April 29, 2015 9:49 AM  

Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus April 29, 2015 9:40 AM
First critique: please, for the sake of readability, use columns (divs) about the same width as a book's.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus April 29, 2015 9:50 AM  

Thanks NJartist - I will admit, I actually don't know how to do that with HTML. I just threw this page together on the quick so I had the link VD said to do.

Blogger YIH April 29, 2015 9:51 AM  

Harsh:
Next time Scalzi cries racism ask him why he doesn't move from whitey white Ohio to vibrant ol' Baltimore.
IIRC, that doughboy lives in some suburb of Cincinnati, a city that has all the vibrancy of either Baltimore or Fergidishu.

Blogger skiballa April 29, 2015 9:52 AM  

Cincinnatus, an interesting read, but given the subject matter, why censor the profanity?

Blogger David April 29, 2015 9:53 AM  

Jay Lucas, we're quite a ways from it, but the wall to which I refer will most likely be made of checkpoints and machine guns.

In my dystopian imaginary future the urge to separate will create, by logical extension, concentrations of haves-and-makers and concentrations of have-nots-and-destroyers, and the former will "make," among other things, barriers to otherwise inevitable sorties by destroyers.

Is this not what what we already see in the "prosperous city centers" vs "city slums," and in the larger sense, suburban enclaves vs the dysfunctional cities?

What's missing now are: 1) an open admission that this is preferred/toss the critics under the bus, and 2) razor wire....miles of razor wire.

Anonymous Steve April 29, 2015 9:55 AM  

You'll note the Salon article was originally posted at a blog called "Radical Faggot".

The author, Benji Hart, describes himself as:

a multiethnic, mixed-class, queer man who is dedicated to radical education, Black feminism and community-committed activism.

I wonder how long he'd survive among the "protestors" in Baltimore?

Blogger darkdoc April 29, 2015 9:56 AM  

What would black people do without all those wonderful white knights protecting them, speaking for them, standing and defending them? How could black people ever survive and function for even another day without their willing caretakers?

What would white people and white magazines do without all those black people to protect and give a voice? How would white people ever atone for all their sins, and find meaning for their useless wasted lives?

Thank God we have black people, and the black people need white people.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus April 29, 2015 9:57 AM  

Cincinnatus, an interesting read, but given the subject matter, why censor the profanity?

Because I don't believe in profanity. I believe it is "corrupt communication," as well as indicative of a weak mind unable to express itself in a more articulate way. I realise that will affect the "realism" some people look for, but I am willing to take that hit.

Blogger David April 29, 2015 9:58 AM  

Titus, the only reason the EBT cards are still in use is the remaining aura of bottomless prosperity lingering post this historic debt-fueled orgy of spending.

If the credit bubble goes Full Hindenburg (as all logic surely suggests), the cupboard will be revealed as bare by the flip of a light switch.

Boom.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus April 29, 2015 10:00 AM  

Boom.

Yep.

Blogger skiballa April 29, 2015 10:06 AM  

@TQC
I see, I won't criticize a man who won't compromise his principles, and is willing to accept all that entails.

I do agree that profanity is not pleasing to the Lord (and I'm working on that), but as a former Army Non-Commissioned Officer, I can use it in a most eloquent and colorful way, which seems to belie the weak mind argument I've heard so often. But to each his own.

Anonymous Porky April 29, 2015 10:08 AM  

Modern Civilization = surveillance state, militarized police, taxation, wealth redistribution, cultural rot, and the most corrupt worldwide corporate oligarchy in history.

Screw you, whitey. Screw you and your civilization.

Blogger njartist April 29, 2015 10:08 AM  

@ Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus April 29, 2015 9:50 AM

Leaving off angle brackets:
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Blogger John Wright April 29, 2015 10:08 AM  

"Because, to be clear, violence is beating, harassing, tazing, assaulting and shooting Black, trans, immigrant, women, and queer people..."

So, let me see. By that definition no assault and no battery against white, non-pervert, native, male and normal people is violence? I do not think I have ever seen so clear and open a double standard announced. Even the most primitive and simple notion of justice is absent.

It is a sad day when I come across a sentence so vile, so insolently negligent of all notions of logic, reason, justice and truth that a drop of sympathy for the Inquisition burning people alive for voicing ideas dangerous to the social order enters my cold heart.

Since I regard freedom of speech and press as sacred and divine, only an enormity of unreason allows such a drop to find its way into my soul.

As radio host Christ Plante is fond of saying, 'we have always had crazy people; we have not always had crazy people running things.'

Anonymous Toddy Cat April 29, 2015 10:09 AM  

One would assume that the "corporate property" that Blacks are entitled to smash and loot would include to offices and residences of SALON writers, and that, since these actions are a "legitimate response to state violence" the aforesaid writers would not resist.

Come on, blacks. You know what to do with a soft target.

Blogger Doseux April 29, 2015 10:09 AM  

Violence is a Black political tactic.

Thus being anti-violence is being anti-Black.

"The heart has its reasons which reason knows nothing of", truly.

Blogger Rantor April 29, 2015 10:12 AM  

48 years of Democrat mayors and city councils. Nearly 20 years of the honorable Elijah Cummings as their representative to Congress. And Salon claims they haven't been properly governed or represented?

Blogger njartist April 29, 2015 10:14 AM  

more on divs

Blogger YIH April 29, 2015 10:14 AM  

Cecil Henry:
These types will go chameleon and hide in the background as soon as there are problems. They will even pretend to have seen these problems all along.
No, deep down, they know the truth. They just can't accept the clash of what they want to believe ''but they're just like us!'' and the reality that no, they're not.

Blogger John Wright April 29, 2015 10:14 AM  

"...encouraging them to mind the Constitution is racist..."

And, at that point, he has stepped beyond the pale. This is the civic equivalent of blasphemy. Swords, not words, should answer.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus April 29, 2015 10:16 AM  

I do agree that profanity is not pleasing to the Lord (and I'm working on that), but as a former Army Non-Commissioned Officer, I can use it in a most eloquent and colorful way, which seems to belie the weak mind argument I've heard so often. But to each his own.

Thank you. I understand that others won't have the same beliefs about it that I do, which is while I don't do it myself, I am not going to be censorious about it towards others, especially on a forum like VD's blog where you have people from all different kinds of backgrounds and experiences and beliefs.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus April 29, 2015 10:17 AM  

Thanks njartist, will look this over.

Anonymous Stickwick April 29, 2015 10:21 AM  

We see ghettos and crime and absent parents where we should see communities actively struggling against mental health crises...

What mental health crises is this person talking about?

Anonymous Susan April 29, 2015 10:22 AM  

Titus

Regarding your thoughts on profanity, I watched a documentary about WWII about 4 years ago. The subject of profanity came up. My understanding after viewing was that the soldiers in war time used profanity as a stress reliever. They did not speak that way back in their normal lives before or after in the States. But when they were in the military, they were very actively profane.

If you are writing realistic, then profanity maybe should be a part of it. Most people understand that it is not a normal or usual way of speaking. IIRC, Vox said that he would use profanity in his writing not as a substitute for dialogue, but as realism to the story plot as he was writing.

That is totally different than just "profane for profane's sake".

Anonymous FrankNorman April 29, 2015 10:22 AM  

This is of a piece with the typical modern liberal attitude - that any criticism of their actions amounts to hatred of them.
"It's my nature to do this, so if you say it's wrong then denying my right to exist!"

Blogger John Wright April 29, 2015 10:24 AM  

"Because I don't believe in profanity. I believe it is "corrupt communication," as well as indicative of a weak mind unable to express itself in a more articulate way."

Bless you.

Blogger Rabbi B April 29, 2015 10:26 AM  

"Swords, not words, should answer."

They say peace is the enemy of memory . . .

Now you will receive us.

We do not ask for your poor or your hungry.

We do not want your tired and sick.

It is your corrupt we claim.

It is your evil that will be sought by us.

With every breath, we shall hunt them down.

Each day, we will spill their blood till it rains down from the skies.

Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace.

These are not polite suggestions. These are codes of behavior, and those of you that ignore them will pay the dearest cost.

There are varying degrees of evil. We urge you lesser forms of filth not to push the bounds and cross over into true corruption, into our domain.

For if you do, one day you will look behind you and you will see we three. And on that day, you will reap it.

And we will send you to whatever god you wish.

And shepherds we shall be, for Thee, my Lord, for Thee. Power hath descended forth from Thy hand.

That our feet may swiftly carry out Thy command. So we shall flow a river forth to Thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be.

In nomine Patri.

Et Filii.

Spiritus Sancti.

- Noah, Connor, and Murphy MacManus

Blogger John Wright April 29, 2015 10:27 AM  

"What mental health crises is this person talking about?"

Liberalism.

Or so I assume. What has done more to harm Blacks in the last hundred years?

Blogger Marissa April 29, 2015 10:31 AM  

in fact, that they are the sources of the greatest violence you face

The greatest sources of violence black folks face is other black folks. Just look at South Africa, black-run and they're attacking black immigrants from other parts of Africa, presumably because the immigrants work harder and make money while the "native" (also immigrant, but from an earlier time) sits on their bums on welfare. And welfare isn't great in South Africa.

Blogger Rabbi B April 29, 2015 10:31 AM  

"I believe it is "corrupt communication," as well as indicative of a weak mind unable to express itself in a more articulate way.""

In truth, the idea of a word being offensive and labeled “swearing” is a construct of a society attempting to find its own definition of the term, “civilized". Language which expresses astonishment or surprise which society considers “swearing” is to be avoided because our lips should only speak in a manner compliant with anything which Hashem counts us worthy to endure. Language which uses religious names for expressions of dismay are to avoided most of all, as our lips should only refer to Hashem or His agents in praise.

Ultimately, since we only utter (or type) a finite number or words to G-d or others in our lifetime, we should do our level best to make all of those words praiseworthy, either by joyful encouragement or by stern rebuke, both of which are acceptable according to the Bible. I truly believe that using words of Scripture to affirm any given situation is the highest form of speech or writing possible.

Blogger skiballa April 29, 2015 10:32 AM  

Having read the piece again, I shudder to think what it's author might say if the silent majority were to accept this as truth. Why, we might decide to answer such actions in a way that are clearly understood. What if we were to discard the constitution, and rule of law, and respond in kind, would that still be racist?

Anonymous Difster April 29, 2015 10:33 AM  

If they rioters were really interested in justice of any kind, they'd be directly attacking police, government workers and government buildings of all sorts and leaving other people alone.

Blogger skiballa April 29, 2015 10:36 AM  

Rabbi B, I do understand that much of the profanity in current use were common words in the language of my ancestors, until their conquerors decided they were vulgar. And yes, they were vulgar in the original sense of the word.

We believers however, are called to represent Him, and so, I try to suppress the bad habit I've fallen into.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus April 29, 2015 10:39 AM  

That is totally different than just "profane for profane's sake".

Yes, I see y'all's point about that. I just won't use it, even as a stress reliever, so I don't feel like I should print it, either. I realise that it might take a hit for realism as a result.

Anonymous jack April 29, 2015 10:43 AM  

I love the quote attributed to Rommel and noted in Proud Legions [vol 2 There will be War]
"American troops less but learned faster than any fighting men he had opposed"

So, the sjw crowd is now finding this out.

Anonymous jack April 29, 2015 10:44 AM  

That should be KNEW less....

Blogger David April 29, 2015 10:44 AM  

Once again: Order is the daughter of liberty. Our culture became so besotted by material success that when the gravy train faltered, mass man elected and appointed a murder of crows to rule, and they delivered a banquet placed on the Collective Credit Card.

The Peak (Political) State is an endless generator of chaos, and like the debt build-up, much of that chaos is hidden by a veneer of what is left of the civilization not yet swallowed by political calculation. One aspect of that chaos is visible in the volcanic vent now spewing in parts of Baltimore, and our crow-like high level sophists rationalize it this way and that.

What no one seems to realize is that the volcano's vast magma chamber is white hot rage, building decade after decade, among those who wept as their civilization was cast down and its adherents reviled in public for Badthink.

People think inner-city blacks are angry? That little bitty bit of lava? Wait until Krakatoa blows.

Blogger Remo April 29, 2015 10:57 AM  

When I was 19 I had to take care of two cats owned by my father and step mother while I was house sitting for them. One cat, Isis, was great. Very friendly, always pleasant, and never a bother. The other, Ellie, would stop and make that damn low growling sound that cats make then hiss whenever she saw me.

I began an experiment after day 3. During previous days, I would come in and set out the food while I did my homework on the kitchen table. Isis would come over eat, meow, rub up against my leg as a thank you, then headed for the couch to sleep. Ellie refused to enter the kitchen at all until I left - she spent her time peering out of the darkness of the living room hissing and growling until I left then she would eat. I decided to change things up a bit.

The next night I put out the food as always and watched as Isis happily ate. When she was done, I immediately put the food dish into the refrigerator and left the kitchen. Ellie came bounding in, and looked confused as there was no food. Experiment Day 1. I repeated the experiment on the 2nd and 3rd days and something funny happened on the night of the 3rd day. While I was sitting on the couch I heard this distinct little mew. Ellie came right up to me, meowing pitifully, and acting *exactly like Isis*. Being nice, letting me pet her, etc. I immediately got up and put food out for her and she ate like crazy. I never had any trouble with her for the rest of the time my parents were away.

I think its high time we tried something similar with blacks. Riots mean no EBT for a month and a full city lockdown. Nothing will be fixed during the month. Any black who attempts to leave is shot on sight. Blacks will not act civilized unless they are forced too - this our ancestors knew. Africa is horrible place not because of lack of rivers (sorry Mr. Sowell) and not because of racism, it is a horrible place because of the inhabitants who naturally choose to live as animals. Forcing them to live in our world requires either constant often extremely violent discipline or tolerance for appalling levels of violence by blacks against everyone else. Denying all this doesn't mean it isn't real and until this matter is addressed people in the U.S. will just have to get used to regular chimpouts if they won't change their policies.

Blogger Derrick Bonsell April 29, 2015 10:58 AM  

You can feel free to censor whatever you want in your work but I'll refer you to this post:
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2013/02/cartooning-controversy.html?m=1

Anonymous fish April 29, 2015 11:14 AM  

Black, trans, immigrant, women, and queer people

Ladies and Gentlemen the SJW victimology Royal Flush!

Blogger YIH April 29, 2015 11:16 AM  

What will eventually happen is Africans IN America will be segregated again. But it won't be 'the White and Colored drinking fountains or movie theaters with a balcony 'for Colored' and the first floor for Whites.
It'll be like what Israel did (calm down, I'm not going there this time) the Africans IN America will be quite literally walled-off.
Before Israel built that wall (I have no problem whatsoever calling it that) suicide bombing was a random and horrifying routine.
Someone could be sitting in a pizza joint eating their pizza and boom. Or just riding a bus to go to work or shopping and boom.
The IDF tried 'rooting out the terrorists' and not only did it cause them a lot of harsh criticism, the bottom line was, it didn't work.
So after a lot of hand-wringing and back and forth, the Labor (left-wing) government started building the 'separation barrier', the wall. And guess what? It has worked, you don't see ''a Palestinian suicide bomber has...'' stories in the news anymore.
When push finally comes to shove Africans IN America will be walled-off, because like the Israelis, the only other alternative is too horrifying to even contemplate.

Blogger Feather Blade April 29, 2015 11:19 AM  

Real estate is supposed to protect you? I don't even know what that means.

Hmm, high strong walls that give one a decent view of the land and a sheltered shooting platform, I would assume.

Violence is a Black political tactic.

Thus being anti-violence is being anti-Black.


So... add to the syllogism "guns are a means of inflicting violence".
Owning guns therefore is a way of expressing solidarity with black political tactics.

It's so nice to know that some liberal somewhere supports the rights of gun owners, and acknowledges that gun owners are not horrible racists. XD

Anonymous Steve April 29, 2015 11:27 AM  

YIH - sad to think it might come to that, but you could be right. There's a series of popular French action movies based on that theme, BTW. It harks back to Escape From New York and, to a lesser extent, The Warriors.

Marko Kloos' Frontlines trilogy has most of the inhabitants of the North American Commonwealth penned up in super-slums, with the army going in regularly to shoot rioters.

It needn't be state-imposed. There are already gated communities in the US. Could there be gated towns in future? Seems silly to contemplate until you remember that most European towns were walled in the middle ages, and for roughly similar reasons.

Blogger tridekka April 29, 2015 11:28 AM  

@Feather Blade, that assumes they're capable of some form of logic and insight rather than emotionally spawned diarrhea of the mouth.

Blogger CSAFarmer April 29, 2015 11:32 AM  

It comes down to, you believe in personal responsibility or you don't.

I too could portray myself as a member of an 'oppressed minority'; my 'tribes' way of life, which had existed for more than 4 centuries, was wiped out shortly after Newfoundland joined Canada in 1949.

Thirty years later, the cod stocks, which had been a mainstay since literally the 15th century were all but wiped out. This was due to both political chicanery as well as a stunning level of mismanagement.

Members of my own family, and thousands of others, had to find some other way to feed their families. A small percentage chose to remain in their small outport communities, collect the welfare now made possible by the Federal Gummint, and moan about 'waiting for the fish to come back'.

Some are still waiting, 3rd generation welfare queens.

The vast majority, including some of my uncles, went where the work was. They left the province, and sometimes the country, doing tough and dangerous work in oilfields and construction sites. So their kids would have more choices than waiting for the bennies to arrive in the first week of the month.

So you can piss and moan about the system, or you can have some pride, and try to improve your circumstance. If not for yourself, then at least for your kids.

Last note, in our small outport communities, if a break-in occured, or some tools went missing, we knew where to look first for the culprits; and justice was very swift indeed.

Newfoundlanders are not by nature a violent people; there were NO murders in Newfoundland last year. There were, however, 500 "fishing accidents".

Anonymous Jack Amok April 29, 2015 11:33 AM  

What I don;t get is why so much violence committed by Black people is directed at other Black people.

Because it usually takes more planning and a longer time-preference than they can muster to get within swinging distance of someone else.

Blogger Corvinus April 29, 2015 11:35 AM  

@Remo

Not rewarding bad behavior is always helpful.

But unfortunately, we have idiots who constantly say stupid things like this:

Link

Anonymous Alexander April 29, 2015 11:38 AM  

YIH,

I don't think it will be done that way. Too dispersed, too big an area. Does Georgia wall off its blacks, Illinois theirs, Kentucky theirs, etc. etc. so that we have a couple dozen walled off zones? If it's done on the national level - good luck finding a state actually willing to draw the short straw and be the one on the other side of the fence. Even in blue states, you're not going to have rural Washington or Oregon or New England accepting millions of vibrants (or for that matter, the cushy liberals like Scalzi who talk big but live white). They can't be put, long term, anywhere on the Mississippi-Missouri-Ohio, or on the coasts - that real estate is simply to valuable for anyone to accept a perpetual failed African state slumming in those neighborhoods. Gaza, it ain't.

First comes the bloodshed, which will at least have the benefit of wiping out the most violent of the lot. Then it's back to American-style segregation.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan April 29, 2015 11:39 AM  

Zeta Beta Tau sure don't and lo and behold no national media coverage, shocked I am, of course not

Anonymous Too-Soon-ami April 29, 2015 11:41 AM  

Salon: "we fail to recognize the value of Black life."
We have no problem recognizing the low value of Black life.


Salon: "When the free market [and others] have all shown you they are not going to protect you"
Perhaps you'd prefer the slave market, where someone had an ownership stake in you, and protected their investment accordingly. And before you get all excited, I'm not interested (see above).

Anonymous Porky April 29, 2015 11:42 AM  

I think its high time we tried something similar with blacks. Riots mean no EBT for a month and a full city lockdown. Nothing will be fixed during the month. Any black who attempts to leave is shot on sight. Blacks will not act civilized unless they are forced too

Getting in touch with your "inner progressive", I see. Nice. Real nice.

Blacks burning drug stores I can deal with. It's the "civilizationalists" like you that make me keep my prepper kit well stocked.

Anonymous fish April 29, 2015 11:55 AM  

It doesn't surprise me that Benji Hart posts in Salon. Of course I didn't expect them to have a "Rent Boy" column so soon.

Anonymous Culture War Draftee April 29, 2015 11:56 AM  

Maybe I'm just stuck in the past, but I'm getting a Summer of '67 vibe here. That was when Detroit, Newark, and a couple dozen other cities experienced riots. LBJ appointed an investigating committee and they blamed, wait for it... white racism. And in 1968 Nixon got in the White House. I'm starting to feel like the 21st century is like some weirdly random replay of the '60s and '70s.

Anyway, who's betting on more riots?

Anonymous Steve April 29, 2015 12:00 PM  

Culture War Draftee - I'm starting to feel like the 21st century is like some weirdly random replay of the '60s and '70s.

Inflation, currency debasement, government pump priming, race hate, crazy feminists, beards...

Yarp. It's the 70's again. But without all the sex and drugs.

Blogger Marty April 29, 2015 12:01 PM  

YIH, FYI regarding "that doughboy lives in some suburb of Cincinnati,". Scalzi lives in Darke County, which is closer to Dayton than Cincinnati. It would be hard pressed to call where he lives a suburb of Cincinnati, when he likely lives at least 80-100 miles from Cincinnati. The suburbs of Cincinnati extend out about 25 miles in radius from Cincinnati.

Anonymous Stilicho April 29, 2015 12:01 PM  

"Civilization" is just another word for things white people do together...

Blogger Azimus April 29, 2015 12:01 PM  

Wheeler:
Jazz is discompant music. It is ad lib music free from rules of music.


I like your greater point about music, and I agree with you in a textbook definition, but most people that I know who say "I listen to jazz" are speaking of what could more accurately be called "The American Songbook" - Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Michael Buble, Ella Fitzgerald, Johnny Mathes, Rosemary Clooney, that sort of thing. Obviously the "ad-lib" nature of jazz is not present in this music. Would you lump them both together? I find that "The American Songbook" music fits into your category of what is beautiful - mostly the songs are love songs or "it ain't so bad Joe" kind of lyrics, generally positive and uplifting.

Blogger Bobo April 29, 2015 12:02 PM  

Fugs vs. Cops = Iran vs. Iraq war.

The good news? Somebody's gotta lose.

Anonymous omar's running shoes April 29, 2015 12:03 PM  

TQC-

Are you channeling Dr. Pierce?

Entertaining, but already done.

Anonymous Yoda April 29, 2015 12:04 PM  

Blacks burning drug stores I can deal with. It's the "civilizationalists" like you that make me keep my prepper kit well stocked.

Much butthurt I sense in you,
Cry like a bitch you should

Blogger Bobo April 29, 2015 12:04 PM  

"Civilization" is just another word for things white people do together..."

Bumper-sticker material right there...

Blogger Cataline Sergius April 29, 2015 12:05 PM  

This is, "Last Days of the Republic" stuff.

Rioters are now an established political class and rioting is a legitimate and protected form of free speech.

I am forcibly reminded of the riots between the Blues and Greens in Constantinople. Where rioting was indeed viewed as a legitimate political tactic and was keenly encouraged by their political masters.

This assumed a world where no one would ever think of hurting the rioters en masse.

This political tactic ended with the Nika Riots when General Belisarius took 30,000 heads in the Hippodrome.

Justinian had Hypatius executed and exiled the senators who had supported the riot. He then rebuilt Constantinople and the Hagia Sophia, and was free to establish his rule. He was also free to pursue his ultimate dream of a united Roman Empire.




Anonymous Stilicho April 29, 2015 12:08 PM  


This assumed a world where no one would ever think of hurting the rioters en masse.

This political tactic ended with the Nika Riots when General Belisarius took 30,000 heads in the Hippodrome.


That could never work, after all, we are reliably informed that the only way to deal with riots is via "de-escalation".

Anonymous Kel-Tec PF9 April 29, 2015 12:10 PM  

@Alexander-- You don't need to wall off an entire state, just a small section of each city.

In Medieval Europe, the Ghettos were walled off. In 21st century America, it is the "good" neighborhoods that are walled off.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus April 29, 2015 12:12 PM  

Are you channeling Dr. Pierce?

Who's Dr. Pierce?

It may be superficially similar to something he's written, but I doubt very strongly that the full end product will be much like what he turned out, unless it involves segueing into a Traditionalist Horatio Hornblower-in-space (minus the strong independent womyn) future based around a technology that enables effective FTL-travel by altering the speed of light itself...?

Blogger Jassi April 29, 2015 12:13 PM  

The most obvious fault of the left is in their attempt to make allies where none exist. Terms like LGBTQ deny the timeless conflicts between lesbians, gays and trans people. They might all be abnormal, but that doesn't make them friends.

Same goes for things like "people of color." What an absurd non-existent coalition. My wife is an Indian by nationality, a Sikh by religion, a Panjabi by linguistic identity, a Takhan/VishwaBrahmin Ramgharia by caste and by tribe. Sure, she has olive colored skin, but by no means could I ever see her allying with inner city black "youth", especially since they've been harassing her since the day she came to the US.

The infighting of the right is at least nominally productive in that its purpose is to establish a hierarchy of ideas and leaders. For us, disagreements exist to suss out strength and hopefully embrace it when that strength aligns with common beliefs and truths.

The infighting on the left is due to the lack of vision or integrity and the need to hide their fractures. They are inherently weak, and having an ideology rooted in a foundation of sand, they there's only an image of unity that isn't even actually there to rely upon. They will disintegrate. But the tantrums they throw between now and then are what we need to be concerned about.

Blogger Noah B April 29, 2015 12:13 PM  

We need to clarify what we mean by terms like “violence” and “peaceful.”

By "clarify," Salon of course means "redefine." Orwellian redefinitions are so common these days they're barely noticeable.

When the free market, real estate, the elected government, the legal system have all shown you they are not going to protect you—in fact, that they are the sources of the greatest violence you face—then political action becomes about stopping the machine that is trying to kill you, even if only for a moment, getting the boot off your neck, even if it only allows you a second of air.

The irony is that the legal, financial, and political systems Salon is criticizing are the result of decades of work by progressives. Progs forced blacks into a system of public education that a substantial number of them don't want, forcing those who do work to pay taxes to continually fund failure. Progs tried to "help" by getting the government involved in practically every sector of the economy, requiring a state issued license to do something as basic as cutting hair. Progs created a legal system that rewards single mothers and punishes fathers, leaving them to face decades of abuse and harassment by courts. Progs created the police state that mercilessly hounds the most helpless among us and that touched off the Baltimore protests. This is far from comprehensive, of course.

Now that their sick ideology has borne fruit, Progs blame everyone but themselves. And they especially blame those, like us, who opposed them every step of the way.

Blogger Noah B April 29, 2015 12:16 PM  

But the most ironic thing of all is that, even as blacks riot in protest against policies implemented by progressives, they keep voting for them again and again.

Anonymous Too-Soon-ami April 29, 2015 12:21 PM  

Stilicho,

De-heading a rioter is a pretty good way of de-escalating his violence. Or hers.



Azimus: "The American Songbook" - Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Michael Buble, Ella Fitzgerald, Johnny Mathes, Rosemary Clooney, that sort of thing. Obviously the "ad-lib" nature of jazz is not present in this music.
One of these things is not like the other. To everyone besides Azimus, please do NOT click the link. I don't wish to be extradited to The Hague for violating the Geneva Convention today.

OpenID genericviews April 29, 2015 12:23 PM  

I realise that it might take a hit for realism as a result. --TQC

Or you could use make-believe vulgar words like "Frell" (Farscape), "Frack" (Battlestar Galactica), or "Gorram" (Firefly). No one would accuse those shows of being unrealistic.

Anonymous Wyrd April 29, 2015 12:26 PM  

Vox's use of 'futter' in his Selenoth stories is another good example. It also reminds me of SNL's celebrity jeopardy. Buckfutter!

Anonymous Stilicho April 29, 2015 12:29 PM  

De-heading a rioter is a pretty good way of de-escalating his violence. Or hers.

'zactly

Anonymous omar's running shoes April 29, 2015 12:31 PM  

Dr. William Pierce, author of The Turner Diaries. Allegedly the book that influenced Timothy McVeigh.

Blogger Poor Guy April 29, 2015 12:32 PM  

Keeping blacks angry has served the leftists well. Give them just enough welfare and lip service to keep them on the plantation and make sure to channel all their blame on white people, "the man", history books etc, anywhere but their new master. These leftists do not mind the occasional riot, they encourage them.

So far the vast majority of the black American population have bought it all, hook-line and sinker. They truly believe that the Democrat Party leftists really care about them, for some reason, Propaganda mostly, I assume. They don't, all they care about is the further acquisition of power.

If enough of the black population figured out that burning down their own neighborhoods (which leftists then 'generously' offer to rebuild) is stupid, and that McDonalds and CVS are not their enemy - they could rock the leftists to their core.

If enough blacks wanted to find out who their new masters really are and how much they actually "care" about them, by withholding their votes... the Democrat Party would revert back to George Wallace or even worse. They would make the KKK blush in their racism.

Anonymous Porky April 29, 2015 12:34 PM  

"Civilization" is just another word for things white people do together...

I guess Jersey Shore was pretty much where civilization peaked then?

Blogger Jassi April 29, 2015 12:35 PM  

"When the free market, real estate, the elected government, the legal system have all shown you they are not going to protect you—in fact, that they are the sources of the greatest violence you face"

It's not the guys on the corner who just sprayed 56 shots out of assault rifles only managing to hit a 2 year old and some old man sitting on the porch, and who committed 6 unsolved murders in your neighborhood last year.

Nope. It's the free market and real estate you must fear.

Anonymous Culture War Draftee April 29, 2015 12:45 PM  

Yarp. It's the 70's again. But without all the sex and drugs.

I won't fit in my bell-bottoms anymore.

This EBT card debate reminds me of a line from that '70s classic, "The Harder They Come." An authority figure warns a record promoter that in addition to crack-downs on drug-dealers, music will be censored until they catch Rhyging, an outlaw hero from the Kingston slums.
The radio guy replies, "No ganja, no hit parade. Pretty soon you gonna have a revolution."
Panem et circenses.

Blogger Marissa April 29, 2015 12:48 PM  

Don't forget TANJ (there ain't no justice!).

Blogger YIH April 29, 2015 12:48 PM  

Marty:
Scalzi lives in Darke County, which is closer to Dayton than Cincinnati.
I'd heard it was southern Ohio, just wasn't sure where.
But I'd hazard a guess that Mr. CAPS LOCK wouldn't go near Cincy, not even to take in a Reds (or Bengals) game.
BTW, Baseball history is about to be made: A Major League game with no 'fans in the stands'.
I suspect that's a preview of the future of pro sports, just like banknotes are beginning to be phased out, spectators in pro sports may wind up becoming a thing of the past.

Anonymous TroperA April 29, 2015 12:52 PM  

I like Anonymous Conservative's take on it:

http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/rabbits-pitting-wolves-vs-wolves-again/

Rabbits make all sorts of poncy laws that restrict freedom. Send K-selected enforcers to enforce poncy laws. K-selected people don't like obeying poncy laws and lash out at K-selected enforcers. Rabbits sit back and watch the fight from the safety of the shadows.

Blogger Feather Blade April 29, 2015 12:53 PM  

I guess Jersey Shore was pretty much where civilization peaked then?

They're orange and you know it.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents April 29, 2015 12:53 PM  

spectators in pro sports may wind up becoming a thing of the past.


Spectators in the stands, physical spectators. No need to go there when you can use Virtual Reality to "attend" the game, right? Vibrancy in the streets might give a big boost to VR in many ways.

Blogger Marissa April 29, 2015 1:07 PM  

spectators in pro sports may wind up becoming a thing of the past.

That's terrible...I just started liking baseball, especially live. Minute Maid Park, where the Astros play, is just lovely. Well, except for one thing: every concession stand is manned almost entirely by blacks. It's strange, because you'd think it'd be a mostly Mexican gig, but it isn't. It seems to have backfired, in one case.

Blogger grendel April 29, 2015 1:12 PM  

@TQC

Flesh it in more. Once we see the center lane is only blocked by one car, we know the funnel is formed. Swing over to a vignette of Roger Dalton, plumber turned unlikely militiaman, lying in a shallow scrape behind a tree. He was offered an M-16 liberated from the local Nat Guard armory, but it didn't feel as good in his hand as the .243 his Dad gave him when he passed hunter safety. As he presses his cheek against the walnut stock to look through the scope at the approaching column...you get the idea. When the prose is too sparse and direct, it jars the reader out of the story. Right now the chapter reads like Victoria, whereas I would shoot for something more Kratmanesque, if that makes sense.

Blogger YIH April 29, 2015 1:16 PM  

A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents:
Spectators in the stands, physical spectators. No need to go there when you can use Virtual Reality to "attend" the game, right? Vibrancy in the streets might give a big boost to VR in many ways.
I was thinking more along the the lines of this.
Especially with NBA/NHL games the arena is often in or near ''the bad part of town'' and quite likely there are folks who like the team and would like to see the team as a spectator but think ''yeah, it would be nice, but...''.

Blogger grendel April 29, 2015 1:19 PM  

Speaking of spectatorless sports:
Brockian Ultra Cricket
Rule Three: Put your team and the opposing team in a large field and build a high wall round them. The reason for this is that, though the game is a major spectator sport, the frustration experienced by the audience at not actually being able to see what's going on leads them to imagine that it's a lot more exciting than it really is. A crowd that has just watched a rather humdrum game experiences far less life- affirmation than a crowd that believes it has just missed the most dramatic event in sporting history.~Douglas Adams.

Anonymous BGS April 29, 2015 1:31 PM  

Because, to be clear, violence is beating, harassing, tazing, assaulting and shooting Black, trans, immigrant, women, and queer people, and that is the reality many of us are dealing with daily...BY BLACKS!!!!!!

When the free market, real estate, the elected government, the legal system have all shown you that POOR ASIANS CAN COME INTO BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS AND OPEN BUSINESSES

Terms like LGBTQ deny the timeless conflicts between ~ don't knock that lack of male privilege 2 bull dikes have

For the record, this will end on the 3rd of May.That is the day that the benefits cards are loaded by Uncle FedGov.

What would happen to Baltimore if the power went out on the 2nd of MAY? If a power line fell over or a couple of transformers overheat there would be no food stamps.

"Exact same scenario as the '92 LA uprising" ~Back then benefits where mailed and they used the treat of benefits not being delivered by mailmen.

What I don;t get is why so much violence committed by Black people is directed at other Black people. For example, I just saw a video last night of two Black women duking at out over a parking space.

They are naturally violent & chimp out at those near them irregardless of race, hopping on MARTA to go to whitey be like calculus.

Yarp. It's the 70's again. But without all the sex and drugs. ~ Where in America is there a shortage of sex & drugs right now?

I realise that it might take a hit for realism as a result. --TQC Using less profanity makes what you do use have a bigger impact.

Allegedly the book that influenced Timothy McVeigh .~ I thought it was children burning to death at WACO

Anonymous Curtis April 29, 2015 1:35 PM  

Order is the daughter of liberty.

https://youtu.be/pEvB_ZIWtAg

Blogger Brad Andrews April 29, 2015 1:37 PM  

I have been slowly reading through John Wright's latest book (because I value sleep, not because I want to go slow). His protagonist doesn't use profanity directly IIRC, but the same idea is there.

You just have to be creative. Though it is a bit easier since that character was born in a dystopian future US.

Blogger Brad Andrews April 29, 2015 1:38 PM  

How many trans or the others he notes have been tazed recently? I can't recall a single example.

Blogger Bies Podkrakowski April 29, 2015 1:40 PM  

I know that looting and burning is evil and all. But still I cannot fail to notice that rioters looks as if the have good fun. Sometimes I envy them. To loot and burn and pillage some corporate property must help relieve stress enormously.

Anonymous Stilicho April 29, 2015 1:41 PM  

To loot and burn and pillage some corporate property must help relieve stress enormously.

Vandalism is cathartic

Blogger Bies Podkrakowski April 29, 2015 1:49 PM  

"Vandalism is cathartic"

Your Honor I was only following the advice of my physician.

Anonymous Steve April 29, 2015 1:51 PM  

Bies - To loot and burn and pillage some corporate property must help relieve stress enormously.

Yes, this is why riots happen. It's fun.

You get to wreck stuff, steal things, and feel powerful as part of the mob.

The only way to stop riots is for the authorities to make it not-fun as swiftly as possible.

Anonymous Curtis April 29, 2015 1:52 PM  

To loot and burn and pillage some corporate property must help relieve stress enormously.

Vandalism is cathartic

Well, for future reference, burning down corporate fascism would be a good start.

Blogger bob k. mando April 29, 2015 1:58 PM  

Marty April 29, 2015 12:01 PM
Scalzi lives in Darke County, which is closer to Dayton than Cincinnati.


Scalzi lives north of I-70, barely closer to Cinci than to Columbus. there's no "southern" Ohio about where he's at. it's west-central, barely shading north.

he's closer to Muncie Indiana than he is to Cinci. hell, he's closer to Fort Wayne than he is to Cinci.

Blogger bob k. mando April 29, 2015 2:04 PM  

David April 29, 2015 10:44 AM
Once again: Order is the daughter of liberty.



no, there are many ways to have 'order' without Liberty.

Imperial China had plenty of order. and the Liberty to have your whole village executed the moment the Emperor might find it useful to 'solve' a famine by seizing your food stores and giving them to the next village over.


if anything, Liberty implies Chaos, each doing as he sees fit.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus April 29, 2015 2:05 PM  

Thanks for the comments all. Will try to look over them, but will be out of town for the next few days.

Blogger Noah B April 29, 2015 2:11 PM  

@Titus

It's got potential, but it needs editing. If I were you I would separate the explanation of the background from the action sequences, and I would focus more on what is happening and what the various characters are thinking and feeling. Transitioning between explanation and action disrupts the narrative flow. It will make life easier for an editor if you get in the habit of not using redundancies ("fairly steep embankment" could be shortened to "steep embankment", "up in Sycamore" could be "in Sycamore", etc.) and colloquialisms (unless they're an important part of dialogue).

Obviously there are going to be plenty of people who find your work politically distasteful, but I don't think it's a stretch to say that what you've got here is already more believable and better written than Turner Diaries.

But keep after it.

Blogger Poor Guy April 29, 2015 2:15 PM  

Noah- Good advice for anyone. I just finished a story and I need to polish it up some before I submit it. I might not have thought to look for that.

OpenID cailcorishev April 29, 2015 2:21 PM  

So after a lot of hand-wringing and back and forth, the Labor (left-wing) government started building the 'separation barrier', the wall.

Star Trek: DS9 did a two-parter along similar lines with a twist. The crew went back in time to 2024 in San Francisco, to a time when there were "sanctuary districts." These were places that had been set aside for the poor and homeless by well-meaning do-gooders, so they would be safe from criminals and could get assistance handily. Of course, the districts soon turned into hellholes which were simply walled off to protect everyone else. (A plot TNG could never have used, by the way; far too politically incorrect.)

But you see the same thinking in cases like Baltimore: "Oh, this is just a few bad apples; they don't represent the majority of the people in the area. If we could just keep the bad apples out of the area -- without doing anything that anyone could call racist, of course -- and pump more wealth into the neighborhood, a thousand points of light would shine or something."

My cynical side says Baltimore doesn't want people out on the streets going to ballgames, not so much because they'd be unsafe, but because they'd see more of what's going on and spread plenty of video of it. It's a given that whatever the government/media say is going on, it's much worse.

Anonymous Curtis April 29, 2015 2:23 PM  

Relax, this will all be a thing of the past.

https://youtu.be/kGTUnfnqb5A

https://youtu.be/Pfy6bWGQn-E

https://youtu.be/Gy7FVXERKFE

Anonymous Too-Soon-ami April 29, 2015 2:24 PM  

BGS- "Back then benefits where mailed and they used the treat of benefits not being delivered by mailmen."

I'm sure you meant "threat", but seeing the mob of stupid, screaming niggers lined up outside the LA Post Offices on May 1 to pick up their checks was definitely a treat for the rest of us. And it was a treat for me to hear my grandfather, who never had anything to say about blacks before those riots, opine aloud that the police should mow them all down with machine guns.

It takes a special kind of stupid, to think the mailman will makes his rounds through the burning streets, just cause Jahqueefa be needin dat check.

Blogger luagha April 29, 2015 2:27 PM  

I was once in Atlanta at a gaming con, attending a roleplaying game run by a highly respected bearded grognard of the gaming community. He began every public game with this speech:

"Welcome to our game. We are here to create a story together, one which may contain heroism, despair, tragedy, and triumph.
As your gamemaster, I have two personal rules.

One, our story is based on a system of rules of which I am the arbiter; but it is not only based on rules. If you feel I have the rules wrong on an important point, you may bring it up to me once with documentation in hand and I will judge it quickly then move on.

Second, we do not use profanity at this table. The use of profanity demeans the creation of the our story and turns it into nothing more than a gutter tale. We are not here to tell gutter tales that will be forgotten when the excitement fades; but to to craft a tale that lives in your history as long as you live.

The only exceptions to my profanity rule are the words, 'hell' and 'damn'. Because if it's good enough for the Duke, it's good enough for us."

I still remember the events of that game clearly, about twelve years later.

Blogger Poor Guy April 29, 2015 2:27 PM  

I also submitted a very short story to a publication last night.

Anonymous Curtis April 29, 2015 2:34 PM  

And on the flip side.

Seven years ago, the U.S. Army War College issued a report calling on the military to be prepared should they need to put down civil unrest within the country. Summarizing the report, investigative journalist Chris Hedges declared, “The military must be prepared, the document warned, for a ‘violent, strategic dislocation inside the United States,’ which could be provoked by ‘unforeseen economic collapse,’ ‘purposeful domestic resistance,’ ‘pervasive public health emergencies’ or ‘loss of functioning political and legal order.’ The ‘widespread civil violence,’ the document said, ‘would force the defense establishment to reorient priorities in extremis to defend basic domestic order and human security.’”

https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/turning_america_into_a_battlefield_a_blueprint_for_locking_down_the_na

Sometimes, (sowing) discontent is a good thing. We have an APP for that.

Blogger Lockestep April 29, 2015 2:41 PM  

"When the free market, real estate, the elected government, the legal system have all shown you they are not going to protect you—in fact, that they are the sources of the greatest violence you face"

And here I thought it was gangbangers who shoot at you because you dissed them by looking at them.

Blogger Poor Guy April 29, 2015 2:55 PM  

Leftist : "You will only remember today because of yesterday"

So when do they start passing out the suicide vests anyways

OpenID femertilizer April 29, 2015 2:58 PM  

Sometimes, (sowing) discontent is a good thing. We have an APP for that.

It's called CNN.

Anonymous Chandler's Ghost April 29, 2015 3:08 PM  

I suggested a few edits to the paragraphs you excerpted.

Anonymous Curtis April 29, 2015 3:16 PM  

Sometimes, (sowing) discontent is a good thing. We have an APP for that.

It's called CNN.

Good point! 98% of LSM is controlled by 6 fascist corporations. To better control you with and set today's and tomorrows narrative.

Anonymous DC April 29, 2015 3:22 PM  

OT @ Titus:

Have a look at the Pinegrow html editor. Pretty powerful, liberal license policy, and cheap(!). Any "quick and dirty" html tutorial online would give you a great start. Personally, I ended up teaching myself html, CSS, and Javascript more or less all at once for work. :p

Waiting for Sharpton or any of the other BGI clowns to show up in Baltimore in 3...2...1...


Anonymous Amok Time April 29, 2015 3:53 PM  

" Telling someone to be peaceful and shaming their militance not only lacks a nuanced and historical political understanding, it is literally a deadly and irresponsible demand."

Let them be "nuanced" all they want but keep your paws out of my wallet. Let them be independent and break stuff in order to act up and out. But, no more money, welfare, TVs, smart phones, etc. Let them stew in their own tactics!!

Blogger Azimus April 29, 2015 4:06 PM  

Too-Soon-ami April 29, 2015 12:21 PM
One of these things is not like the other. To everyone besides Azimus, please do NOT click the link. I don't wish to be extradited to The Hague for violating the Geneva Convention today.


Yes, well, there is that. It's called "scat" for a reason...

... I would still back her as one of the most talented singers of the 20th century in terms of voice and range, despite this sort of... stuff.

Anonymous Johnny Caustic April 29, 2015 6:34 PM  

What a profoundly evil quotation. Too many lies to count.

The political goals of rioters in Baltimore are not unclear

Most of the rioters had no political goals; they just like to smash stuff. They were given a signal by the elites that this would be a good opportunity to do so, so they took it.

Anonymous Rhetoric Man April 29, 2015 7:24 PM  

“The r-selected don't care about their martyrs of the future of their people. Nationalism is a K-selected ideology. The r's are motivated solely by their base appetites or by the prospect of harming their perceived betters.”

Could you please site a source in which nationalism is definitively “k-selected” ideology?


“We, the side of order, vastly outnumber and out-muscle the forces of chaos and dissolution.”

Who is this “we, the side of order”?


“Anyone who imagines the races can coexist all over one another is insane. Ive known a small handful of blacks who I would consider peers. And even then, only in the rarest of situations.”

Since we are speaking anecdotally, I’ve personally known some 60 or more blacks whom I can call brother and sister. It’s called a neighborhood. And there are thousands of similar neighborhoods in our great land.


“They belong in Africa, mining gold for the rest of the world.”


I’m sure that their ancestors would agree wholeheartedly, except that today’s black Americans have little in common politically or socially with their African brethren except the color of their skin. Besides, sending back all the “vibrants” is NOT an option. Why do people insist that this pie in the sky idea become a reality?


“What will eventually happen is Africans IN America will be segregated again.”

By 2050, minorities in the United States will be the majority. And yet you believe that Whitey will be unified to the point to that legislation will be passed, and meet constitutional scrutiny, in which Blackie will be living in their own separate communities, behind barbed wire and concrete YIIIIIIIIIIH! Dude, we already HAVE a wall in place—the suburbs.


“Seems silly to contemplate until you remember that most European towns were walled in the middle ages, and for roughly similar reasons.”

Indeed, it is silly to contemplate.


"Civilization" is just another word for things white people do together…”

You mean like sail the seven seas, see something they must possess, and take it by force? Yep, the sweet smell of civilization!


“First comes the bloodshed, which will at least have the benefit of wiping out the most violent of the lot. Then it's back to American-style segregation.”

Just when I thought I was out, this statement pulls me back in. Who is say that “your side” will win? Who is to say that when the smoke clears, IF there is this big, glorious, bloody battle, that
people will come to their senses and build communities that consist exclusively of one ethnic group that ALL embrace a particular faith? Perhaps you ought to pen a science fiction novel on this “fact”. Hell, I would even buy it!

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler April 29, 2015 7:48 PM  

Azimus, I never thought of Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Michael Buble, Ella Fitzgerald, Johnny Mathes, Rosemary Clooney, as part of Jazz.. Their music is beautiful. I have never heard of the American songbook category but I would agree with you. I listened to Buble and Mathes. Yes.

But for the training of boys, it is better that they listen to martial music. That instills manliness and masculine airs.

Blogger Feather Blade April 29, 2015 8:00 PM  

Vandalism is cathartic

You know, the Greeks used theater for catharsis.

Regrettably that option is no longer open to us, because the Progs have thoroughly suborned the art.

Video games are cathartic... I propose a new government program: Games for the Ghettoes, wherein poor families are issued a video game console and their choice of an FPS or adventure game.
Keeps them off the street, gives them a safe outlet for their ... political goals, and it must be cheaper than rebuilding a city.

Blogger Matamoros April 29, 2015 9:07 PM  

The Stranger
Rudyard Kipling

The Stranger within my gate,
He may be true or kind,
But he does not talk my talk--
I cannot feel his mind.
I see the face and the eyes and the mouth,
But not the soul behind.

The men of my own stock,
They may do ill or well,
But they tell the lies I am wanted to,
They are used to the lies I tell;
And we do not need interpreters
When we go to buy or sell.

The Stranger within my gates,
He may be evil or good,
But I cannot tell what powers control--
What reasons sway his mood;
Nor when the Gods of his far-off land
Shall repossess his blood.

The men of my own stock,
Bitter bad they may be,
But, at least, they hear the things I hear,
And see the things I see;
And whatever I think of them and their likes
They think of the likes of me.

This was my father's belief
And this is also mine:
Let the corn be all one sheaf--
And the grapes be all one vine,
Ere our children's teeth are set on edge
By bitter bread and wine.

Anonymous Not-So-Merry zen0 April 29, 2015 9:53 PM  

OT but maybe important:

How to Hack a military drone by spoofing GPS

Anonymous tiredofitall April 29, 2015 10:13 PM  

Turn the EBT cards off for a few weeks. Problem solves itself.

"Do that, and the rioting becomes ten times worse and spreads to the suburbs." - Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Oh god, I'd pay good money to see a pack of gibmedats and dindu nuffins trying to invade suburbia.

I say trying because unlike DeShawn or Trayquon, suburbanites have legal weapons and know that holding the gun sideways isn't proper shooting stance.

Anonymous The other robot April 29, 2015 11:01 PM  

Claims that Freddy Gray was intentionally trying to injure himself.

Give that man a Darwin Award.

Blogger Cuca Culpa April 30, 2015 12:05 AM  

Oh god, I'd pay good money to see a pack of gibmedats and dindu nuffins trying to invade suburbia.

I say trying because unlike DeShawn or Trayquon, suburbanites have legal weapons and know that holding the gun sideways isn't proper shooting stance.


Dey jus' need mo' money for dem shootin' range programs...

Anonymous The other robot April 30, 2015 12:21 AM  

"Do that, and the rioting becomes ten times worse and spreads to the suburbs." - Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

However, I think that Theodora knew how to deal with that. John Christian Falkenberg does as well.

Anonymous Curtis April 30, 2015 12:57 AM  

Claims that Freddy Gray was intentionally trying to injure himself.

Yep. This from another prisoner. You don't have to be too sharp to think that one through. Well, maybe you do. He deliberately broke his back in 2 places, broke his leg, and Karate chopped himself in the larynx. And nickel rode at his request for 20-30 minutes unrestrained.

But that's cool. He was just a nigger anyhow. Right?

Anonymous horsewithnonick April 30, 2015 1:11 AM  

We need to clarify what we mean by terms like “violence” and “peaceful.”

Oh, yesss, let's!

I'll start:

1. The primary distinguishing characteristic of government is its authority to use force against those who violate the law.

2. The "peaceful" Civil Rights movement of several decades ago successfully lobbied the U.S. government to use this power to make and enforce, with violence if need be, new rules prohibiting business owners from making certain decisions with respect to whom they chose to do business with. Businesses and their owners are still being destroyed today by similar policies, backed by violent force.

3. Therefore, the Civil Rights movement was as "nonviolent" as the Mob boss who declares his gentle and peace-loving nature while his hirelings burn down your business and shatter your kneecaps for failing to cut him in.

Now, you were saying?

Blogger Cee April 30, 2015 1:47 AM  

TCQ,

Liked it so far, but definitely agree that the language could be much tighter. As an example:

The squad leader in the leading APC, still unbuttoned, did not happen to notice that about a quarter of a mile past the roadblock, the asphalt of the highway had been broken up and then replaced, almost appearing as a simple set of cracks in the road. Of course by that time, if he had, it wouldn’t have really mattered.

Could be:

"The squad leader in the leading APC, still unbuttoned, failed to notice a network of cracks in the asphalt a quarter mile past the roadblock[, where the highway had been broken up and replaced]. Even if he had, it wouldn't have mattered."

Not the best job and probably not true to your authorial voice, but phrases like "almost appearing" and "did not happen to notice" are verbal speedbumps for the reader. (Adverbs, also. Go through and chuck out your adverbs in that piece just as an exercise in concision. You can put them back later if you need them, but see what it reads like without them.)

Blogger Noah B April 30, 2015 2:43 AM  

Or this:

The squad leader in the leading APC, still unbuttoned, studied the length of the tree line ahead as his column advanced, searching for snipers. Seeing none, and remaining focused entirely on the distant terrain, his vehicle continued forward despite the unusually rough looking patch in the asphalt paving just ahead.

Blogger Cee April 30, 2015 2:55 AM  

Also a good fix, though given how, uh, negligent the President's Guard are portrayed as being I 'unno if he'd even be looking for snipers.

Also a little subject-verb confusion in the second sentence, since it sounds like his vehicle's the thing staying focused on the distant terrain. (drone apc tho)

Blogger Noah B April 30, 2015 3:11 AM  

Quite true. Instead of looking for snipers, he might be fumbling with a lighter trying to light a cigarette in the breeze. Or reflecting on the 12-year old he'd raped and murdered that morning.

And this is why you need someone else to review your work. It's so easy to get locked into a particular way of thinking and miss a problem that might be immediately obvious to someone else.

Blogger Kirk Parker April 30, 2015 3:40 AM  

"div {width= 500 px;}"

No no no no no! Good Lord, no!!!

We have huge variations in pixels and DPI out there; why not express the width in something that scales with font resolution? I mean Pt of course.

Blogger Cee April 30, 2015 4:00 AM  

And this is why you need someone else to review your work. It's so easy to get locked into a particular way of thinking and miss a problem that might be immediately obvious to someone else.

Absolutely. I need to find people to do that. I'm frankly skeered to present my work to the Ilk because it's (I feel) Irredeemably Girly (though I am trying to work out ways to make it less so).

Anonymous Discard April 30, 2015 4:12 AM  

Rhetoric Man: You personally know over 60 Blacks that you call Brother or Sister?
With bullshit like that, I can see why you've chosen your handle. I'll guess that you hug them all too.

Anonymous Discard April 30, 2015 4:24 AM  

Too-Soon-Ami: "Scoobie doobie doo", sang Frank Sinatra. Nothing wrong with scat singing, any more than humming or singing in a foreign language. Music doesn't require words. Ella Fitzgerald was a singer, not a lyricist.

OpenID cailcorishev April 30, 2015 5:24 AM  

The squad leader in the leading APC

Does "leader ... leading" bother anyone else? I'd change one of them to get rid of that repetition.

Anonymous BGS April 30, 2015 10:25 AM  

"Yep. This from another prisoner. You don't have to be too sharp to think that one through. Well, maybe you do. He deliberately broke his back in 2 places, broke his leg, and Karate chopped himself in the larynx. And nickel rode at his request for 20-30 minutes unrestrained."

There are people who purposely get into accidents to claim injuries. Allstate has even done commercials covering the scams, interestingly enough the drug dealer that caused the riots just converted a settlement from Allstate into a lump sum.
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/04/28/did-freddie-gray-have-spinal-surgery-from-car-accident-a-week-before-his-arrest/comment-page-2/

Blogger Jassi April 30, 2015 11:59 AM  

Curtis "He was just a nigger anyhow. Right?",

Nobody wants to live around blacks, but many people pretend to care about them on the internet. Baltimore,Detroit, Ferguson etc are some of the cheapest places to live. Go there and embrace the vibrancy. Report back about how good these people are after living around them.

Blogger Noah B April 30, 2015 3:09 PM  

"Does "leader ... leading" bother anyone else? I'd change one of them to get rid of that repetition."

Yes. Good catch.

Anonymous Eric the Red April 30, 2015 8:43 PM  

"Yep. This from another prisoner. You don't have to be too sharp to think that one through. Well, maybe you do. He deliberately broke his back in 2 places, broke his leg, and Karate chopped himself in the larynx. And nickel rode at his request for 20-30 minutes unrestrained."

Meanwhile, the Mayor of Baltimore is black, the Chief of Police is black, half of the police command staff are black, 9 of 15 city council members are black, and government agencies related to welfare and other grants to blacks are themselves overwhelmingly black.

So exactly who of which race was in charge of and responsible for Freddie Gray? Of course, all of those pesky facts don't support the leftist narrative, do they. Reality is a bitch to SJB's and the rest of the cultural marxists.

To amend your last statement's attempt at a "gotcha" summary: 'He was just another nigger whose life was fully controlled by other niggers, with all the predictably disastrous results thereof, right?'

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