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Friday, May 15, 2015

Anti-GamerGate Debate

Assuming Mournblade can sort out the technical difficulties, I am debating the anti-GamerGate side in preparation for the August SPJ appearance by selected GamerGaters on Aerith Radio.

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19 Comments:

Blogger Johan May 15, 2015 7:55 PM  

Wow, hearing you spout SJW talking points is pretty funny...

Blogger Krul May 15, 2015 8:02 PM  

Host's voice is badly distorted for me. Fortunately the debaters are loud and clear.

Blogger Salt May 15, 2015 8:22 PM  

Bad audio

Blogger Salt May 15, 2015 8:27 PM  

Audio cleared up and the show is over.

Blogger Underwater Operative May 15, 2015 8:28 PM  

Painful

Blogger Krul May 15, 2015 8:34 PM  

The interlocutor said of his approach in the debate that he's trying to appear reasonable. In my humble opinion, this is a mistake. This manifests in his performance as concessions and praise for the opposition, which would be appropriate in a personal discussion, but not in a debate. In a debate it wastes very limited time at best.

A debater's objective is to convince the audience that his side is correct. Concessions like that imply that the debater isn't really certain of his own position. A debater who concedes nothing and confidently presses his own message conveys certainty. The audience will pick up on the difference and judge the positions accordingly.

What was the interlocutor's name, by the way? Bryan something?

Anonymous JRL May 15, 2015 8:36 PM  

host signs off..."good night, hope you enjoyed the show...and I still think you're a bunch of faggets..."

heh

Blogger Krul May 15, 2015 8:41 PM  

For example, interlocutor said something like "It's true that Zoe Quinn et al are game designers and they deserve praise for that."

Well... so what? Even if that's true, why would you mention it? It wastes precious seconds.

Blogger Salt May 15, 2015 8:46 PM  

That's funny, Krull. Vox is in game design too. Does he deserve praise also? Of course not. The only reason to say such about Quinn et al is to pedestalize them.

Blogger Krul May 15, 2015 9:05 PM  

Salt - The only reason to say such about Quinn et al is to pedestalize them.

To appear to be reasonable, I think. Apparently on the assumption that doing so will show that he's reasonable enough to see some good in his opposition.

Of course the other problem is that it's not really a reasonable point at all. So they deserve praise just for being game designers? Not GOOD game designers, just game designers. Is he handing out Participation Awards?

Anonymous Northern Observer May 15, 2015 9:09 PM  

Live only? No download or stream available?

Anonymous Rhys O'Reilly May 15, 2015 9:33 PM  

This should be good.

Is it just you? And who on the Anti side is willing to debate? So far they all seem to avoid debate like they avoid salads.

Anonymous Northern Observer May 15, 2015 9:51 PM  

http://aerithradio.co.uk/downloads/

"Aerithradio vox day interview"

Anonymous The other robot May 15, 2015 10:04 PM  

OT: Long-term measles-induced immunomodulation increases overall childhood infectious disease mortality

Some more friendly words here:

Measles vaccine protects against other deadly diseases

The claimed mechanism is very interesting.

However, I am pretty certain I was never vaccinated for measles and got it as a kid, but didn't die from these other diseases.

Blogger Cee* May 15, 2015 10:48 PM  

@TOR:

Interesting. I'm going over the full paper now but just on the grounds of the first figure they get dinged for showing a time-dependent correlation as causative with plotting measles deaths and non-measles deaths declining together.

Anonymous Androsynth May 15, 2015 11:01 PM  

Please, I was more of a "game designer" than Zoe Quinn when I was 10 years old and copying BASIC programs out of Games magazine in the 80s.

Blogger maniacprovost May 16, 2015 12:25 AM  

I designed a card game. It's awesome. 100% of the person who played with me agreed. Does that make me a game designer? Oh, but there was no narrative or 8th grade social commentary.

Anonymous BGS May 16, 2015 3:02 PM  

Measles vaccine protects against other deadly diseases The claimed mechanism is very interesting.

You would have to take a hard look at the study to see if they are saying anything other than "eating food before you go out drinking lowers your chance of STDs" or "not going to the hospital with hookers in front of it lowers your chance of nosocomial infections" . Remember the Gulf War Syndrome study that showed those that went to the gulf much healthier than those that didn't because cancer patients didn't deploy & regular pregnancy checkups counted the same as a guy going to the ER 30+ times in a year with each ultrasound and well visit counted separately.

Anonymous BGS May 16, 2015 3:10 PM  

After looking at the article I apologize for using those analogies. This might be a better summery. "If you break your jaw in a bar fight you are more likely to break your jaw again than a nun who practices good hygiene."

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