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Saturday, May 30, 2015

Eric Flint, SJW

I hadn't bothered reading whatever Flint had been going on about, because knowing that he was still a socialist was sufficient for me, the student of several noted Marxian economists (since recanted), to know that the man is neither very intelligent nor very educated.

But I finally got around to reading the article and was mildly surprised to learn that it was even dumber than I assumed it would be.
I am a social justice warrior. Not an “SJW,” not a figment of the fevered imaginations of right-wingers, but the real deal. 
Wow, the real deal! And what do SJWs always do? That's right. All together now! SJWS ALWAYS LIE. Case in point: Eric Flint.
Then there’s Theodore Beale, aka “Vox Day.” Now we come to a far more suitable candidate, Great-Dictator-Reborn-wise. He shares Hitler’s general attitudes on race, certainly, although I don’t know where he stands on the subject of Jews. And he’s even to the right of Hitler on the subject of women. Far to the right, in fact. Hitler thought women should stick to their proper roles in child-rearing, managing households and church activity—“Kinder, Kūche, Kirche”—but he wasn’t actually opposed to women learning how to read and write and he didn’t support honor killings.

But there are two great differences between Beale and Hitler that make it impossible for Beale to play that role either.

To start with, whatever his other depravities, Hitler wasn’t a petty chiseler. Whereas Beale is nothing but a petty chiseler. He chisels when it comes to his opinions, always trying to play peekaboo and slime around defending what he obviously believes. And he’s trying to win Hugo awards by petty chiseling.

But it’s his other characteristic that really disqualifies him for the role of Great Villain in this morality play.

In a nutshell—and completely unlike Adolf Hitler—Theodore Beale is a fucking clown with delusions of grandeur. This is a man—say better, pipsqueak—who rails to the heavens about the decline—nay, the imminent doom!—of western civilization due to the savageries of sub-human races and (most of all) the pernicious—nay, Satan-inspired!—willfulness of uppity women, and likes to portray himself as the reincarnation of the feared Crusaders of yore, all the way down to wielding a flaming sword.

And… the best thing he can figure out to do with his time, money and energy is to hijack a few Hugo awards. That’ll show the sub-human-loving treacherous bitches!

The world trembles and shakes, just like it does in the imagination of a mouse whenever that mouse imagines itself to be an elephant. Except no mouse who ever lived was this stupid.
You know, we've wondered who was going to be the new Hitler ever since Mahmoud Ahmadinejad proved to be such a washout in that regard. My money was on Putin, so I had absolutely no idea it would turn out to be me. Someone get Hugo Boss on the line, we're going to need some snappy new outfits for the VFM, stat!

Let's address the issues as Mr. Flint, real deal SJW, puts them forth.
  1. I don't share Hitler's views on race, as I have a basic grasp of human genetics and I am neither a eugenicist nor an Aryan supremacist.
  2. On the subject of Jews, I am a Zionist who edits and publishes the eminent Israeli military historian Dr. Martin van Creveld.
  3. I'm not opposed to women learning to read and write. I am opposed to women being encouraged to obtain advanced degrees in the place of husbands and children. Unlike Mr. Flint, I can do the demographic math.
  4. I don't support honor killings. I never have.
  5. I don't hide what I really believe. Mr. Flint claims to know what I really believe without me ever putting it into words because, and I quote, "peekaboo". If anyone is "a fucking clown" here, it is observably Mr. Flint.
  6. I'm not trying to win Hugo Awards. I don't care about winning awards.
  7. I have no delusions of grandeur. I'm not the one who keeps running to The Guardian, Entertainment Weekly, The New Zealand Herald, NPR, Popular Science, or the Wall Street Journal to talk about me. I haven't issued a single press release or called a single member of the media about the Hugo Awards or anything else, for that matter.
  8. Western civilization is in peril. In large part thanks to idiots like Mr. Flint.
  9. I don't like to portray myself with a flaming sword. That was the brainchild of the Star Tribune photographer who was taking pictures of me for a story the paper was doing. Apparently he was onto something, as it's an image many people have remembered.
  10. Hijacking the Hugo Awards is not the best thing I can figure out to do with my time, money and energy. First, the Hugos weren't hijacked. We claimed the nominations fair and square, and entirely in accordance with the rules. Second, it took very little time, money, or energy as it required nothing more than a single blog post and 367 Vile Faceless Minions who despise SJWs like Eric Flint, John Scalzi, Jim Hines, and George Rape Rape Martin more than Eric Flint hates capitalist running dogs.
Anyhow, it's always good to see one's initial instincts confirmed. Now I can go back to completely ignoring the moronic intellectual dinosaur. Seriously, how stupid do you have to be to still subscribe to the Labor Theory of Value? I would have thought that robotics would have been sufficient to lay that to rest for anyone capable of turning on a computer.

It's kind of funny that these people take umbrage at the idea that I am considerably more intelligent than they are. Do they even read what they write? Hitler! Honor! Hate! Hijack! Hugo! It's as if they've got conceptual Tourette's Syndrome. My favorite was Flint's claim to a) know I share Hitler's ideas on race but b) not know my views about Jews. We're clearly dealing with a real master of logic here.

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133 Comments:

Blogger D. Lane (#0067) May 30, 2015 6:36 PM  

There must be a secret ranking board for P(H) = 1.

Anonymous fish May 30, 2015 6:41 PM  

Likelihood of cogent response to your ten points.......?

Zero


....and good lord but he rambles on! Ugh....make your point and prepare for rebuttal!

Blogger David-093 May 30, 2015 6:43 PM  

"It required nothing more than a single blog post and 367 Vile Faceless Minions who despise SJWs like Eric Flint more than Eric Flint hates capitalist running dogs."

I said something like this to my dad the other day. After all that's been done over the decades by the Left to the West, the Right probably hates Leftists far more now than Leftists ever hated Right-wingers. A lot of anger and fury over how much has been ruined because of them is not likely to be forgiven or forgotten.

And as for the Nazi/Hitler comparisons these retards make. Please. I don't know how said it first but it was something like "Women imagine being fucked by Nazis, not docile little Frenchmen."

Blogger rcocean May 30, 2015 6:53 PM  

Actually if you go to his webpage and read his "Who is Eric?" and know a bit about, Marxists aka communists, you can spot all the lies this guy tells about his life. Like calling himself a "socialist" and working man who just had tons of jobs doing all kinds of things all over the country. 100-1 he was Red diaper baby who was a party member before he graduated from college and went all around the country as a well paid union organizer and party member - sorry - political activist. One has to wonder if the fall of the USSR had anything to do with his stoppage of his "political activism" and his beginning to write SF.

Blogger Foster May 30, 2015 6:55 PM  

Was the sword uncomfortable to hold what with the flames and all?

Blogger rcocean May 30, 2015 6:56 PM  

In any case, old political ideologues - of the Marxist sort - don't change their views at 78. If the Gulags and millions of deaths didn't stop this guy from believing in Marxism, nothing will.

Blogger Philip Sandifer May 30, 2015 6:58 PM  

Zionism is not incompatible with anti-semitism. (Example - someone who supports a Jewish state with Jerusalem as its capital for the practical reason that such a state is a necessary condition for Christ's return could hold the view that Jewish people are untrustworthy without necessarily contradicting themselves.)

I think the more relevant question in terms of Flint's piece is "what genetically-determined negative traits, if any, do you associate with Ashkenazic or Sephardic Jews?"

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 30, 2015 6:58 PM  

SJW version of single combat, big whoop. Maybe I should become a SJW then I could be a bigger fish in a very small intellectual puddle.

As Senator John F Kennedy said of Hitler "He was a great man", how little JFK knew that Hitler would now be a celebrity anti-endorser, a demi god to a world with no sense of right or wrong, hell Hitler is bigger than Jesus to an idiot like Flint.

Blogger DaveofSpades May 30, 2015 7:03 PM  

As soon as I see one of these clowns using your real name, like a scolding old woman or superstitious gypsy trying to ward off the Evil with its True Name, I write them off as the willfully ignorant twit they always turn out to be.

Blogger VD May 30, 2015 7:04 PM  

Was the sword uncomfortable to hold what with the flames and all?

Yeah, the flame paste tended to drip off. I had to dodge it to keep it from burning my shoes a few times. Fortunately it burns out very quickly.

I think the more relevant question in terms of Flint's piece is "what genetically-determined negative traits, if any, do you associate with Ashkenazic or Sephardic Jews?"

Other than Tayes-Sachs disease, nothing. I'm a Christian and a Zionist, but I am not a Christian Zionist in the "Israeli flag in the church" sense and I think the concept of immanentizing the Eschaton is utter anti-Biblical lunacy.

Blogger VD May 30, 2015 7:07 PM  

As soon as I see one of these clowns using your real name, like a scolding old woman or superstitious gypsy trying to ward off the Evil with its True Name, I write them off as the willfully ignorant twit they always turn out to be.

It is a remarkably reliable indicator. I think they can't quite grasp that I'm not hiding anything.

Blogger Bard May 30, 2015 7:20 PM  

I was jealous of the flaming sword pic. You should do one with a red light saber.

Blogger David-093 May 30, 2015 7:24 PM  

"Yeah, the flame paste tended to drip off. I had to dodge it to keep it from burning my shoes a few times. Fortunately it burns out very quickly."

And for nearly a decade I thought it was photoshopped.

"As soon as I see one of these clowns using your real name, like a scolding old woman or superstitious gypsy trying to ward off the Evil with its True Name, I write them off as the willfully ignorant twit they always turn out to be."

If they chant his real name enough times over a cut up picture of him with the flaming sword eventually his evil spell will break and he'll devolve into a weak-willed pussy like them that they can shame and ostracize into oblivion.

At least, that's what both their witch doctor and their amygdala tells them.

Blogger Doom May 30, 2015 7:34 PM  

'I am an idiot. Not a “person with a low IQ” not a figment of the fevered imaginations of right-wingers, but the real deal.' Fill in the blank as you please. I did. Love fill-in-the-blank games. After that, I... really didn't need to read anything else. Got my view of cool-aid sipping, admitted up front, don't care to see the end game or results. Test positive for TSTL syndrome (too stupid to live).

Blogger Jack Ward May 30, 2015 7:35 PM  

Gosh, and I actually read several of his books. Sort of enjoyed them as well. No more Mr. Flint for me after this. These people seem to excel in trying to destroy their careers.
I think the flaming sword pic is cool.

Anonymous EH May 30, 2015 7:37 PM  

Flint is pretty far left - labor organizer, long-time member of the Socialist Workers Party (Trotskyite entryist, like the Armenian Jewish Gord Doctorow and his son Cory), PhD dropout in southern African History. He looks a bit Jewish, and has a bit of an obsession with Jewish themes in his 1632 series, which is occasionally unrealistic (having a Jewish father not object to his daughter marrying a Christian early in the first book). (In the 1632 books a town in West Virginia is transported to the Thirty Years' War, and becomes a European power using American technical, military and political know-how.) Overall, though, his political and ethnic background are surprisingly seldom obvious in the series - there are more "strong women" than are believable, a token black character or two, and the political subversion of neighboring monarchies is straight out of the Communist playbook, but there is a respect for White small-town America, an engagement with technology and economics and he deals fairly well with many aspects of the history of that time (though he can't really quite grasp how people thought back then.)

Flint doesn't make the Church or priests into villains -- in fact acknowledges that the Galileo affair was not at all as it is usually portrayed. He does not run down monarchy; the town eventually becomes a reasonably happy protectorate of the Swedish crown. He acknowledges that the Jewish community was often oppressive, as in the case of Spinoza (he has the Rabbis expelling Spinoza as a child when they find out what he would have written in an alternate history.) The main problem I have with Flint's work is that his writing style is a bit better than fan fiction, but not dramatically so, (there is a huge amount of fan fiction written in the 1632 universe and published with Flint's blessing, so the comparison isn't hypothetical.)

Blogger Krul May 30, 2015 7:50 PM  

"—nay, the imminent doom!—... —nay, Satan-inspired!—..."

A horse is a horse
Of course of course,
And no one would talk like a horse, of course,
That is, of course,
Unless the source
Is the famous Mister Flint

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 30, 2015 7:53 PM  

I wonder if Dave Freer will have any comments on this?

Blogger Dexter May 30, 2015 7:53 PM  

how stupid do you have to be to still subscribe to the Labor Theory of Value?

Heinlein squashed it flat in Starship Troopers. Wonder if Eric Flint hasn't read that because Heinlein was the previous Hitler before Vox.

Anonymous Laz May 30, 2015 7:55 PM  

"Someone get Hugo Boss on the line, we're going to need some snappy new outfits for the VFM, stat"

Ya mein commandant! ;)

Blogger kh123 May 30, 2015 7:56 PM  

Though not a minion and lacking a large enough graveyard, rest assured, much evil cackling is had on this end of the internets with posts like these.

" If the Gulags and millions of deaths didn't stop this guy from believing in Marxism, nothing will."

As a prophet from that fairytale island once said, "Not until you hear 'Hands behind your backs!' will you understand." Folks like Flint have yet to be crushed under that stone which they've cast.

Blogger Daniel May 30, 2015 7:58 PM  

The birth name thing is especially ridiculous to me.

That is the name by which I was introduced to your novels. I mean, what in the name of Sam Clemens...

Anonymous zen0 May 30, 2015 7:59 PM  

Philip Sandifer May 30, 2015 6:58 PM

Zionism is not incompatible with anti-semitism. (Example - someone who supports a Jewish state with Jerusalem as its capital for the practical reason that such a state is a necessary condition for Christ's return could hold the view that Jewish people are untrustworthy without necessarily contradicting themselves.)


The head of Hezbollah, Hassan Nasrallah, applauded the Jews all returning to Israel. He said it would be easier to kill them all if they gathered in one place.

According to your concept he is a Zionist as well.

Maybe your concept needs more work. A little more thought, a little less B.S.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 30, 2015 7:59 PM  

The main problem I have with Flint's work is that his writing style is a bit better than fan fiction, but not dramatically so, (there is a huge amount of fan fiction written in the 1632 universe and published with Flint's blessing, so the comparison isn't hypothetical.)

One could observe that perhaps the quality of fanfic has improved?

Look, some of David Drake's fiction was nothing more than a retelling of classic tales in a future setting, with slightly modified characterization. The same was true of several of Fred Saberhagen's Berzerker works. Adequately entertaining hammock or beach reading. I have not read 1632 partly because I enjoyed H. Beam Piper's Lord Kalvan work.

Now, all of that said, Flint comes across as a mindless, aging Boomer who can't fathom why anyone would disagree with him. The sort of man whose mind crystallized into some sort of shape in 1968, and who has been doggedly rejecting any contrary evidence ever since.

And again, Disneyland was made for him and his cohort.

Blogger VD May 30, 2015 8:00 PM  

I wonder if Dave Freer will have any comments on this?

I don't see why he should. What is there to defend? The facts are what they are. And I think it behooves a man to stick up for his friends in public, as it also behooves him to tell them in private when they are attempting to swallow their shoes.

Blogger Dexter May 30, 2015 8:00 PM  

Senator John F Kennedy said of Hitler "He was a great man",

"And I should know, because my dad practically carried Chamberlain's umbrella to Munich!"

Blogger VD May 30, 2015 8:02 PM  

Flint comes across as a mindless, aging Boomer who can't fathom why anyone would disagree with him.

That was pretty much how he struck me too.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 30, 2015 8:04 PM  

As a prophet from that fairytale island once said, "Not until you hear 'Hands behind your backs!' will you understand." Folks like Flint have yet to be crushed under that stone which they've cast.


Yeah, it's like they never read Darkness at Noon in any sort of personal sense. Anyone can be Rubishov...

Party Police Officer: All of you, turn and face the wall
Good Party Member: Even me? Surely not me, too?
Party Police Officer's pistol: BANG

Blogger Cataline Sergius May 30, 2015 8:16 PM  

On the face of it Eric Flint is an odd choice as a Baen author.

It's not like they keep him around to prove how inclusive they are.

He does seem to be well thought of within the Baen community. Larry Corriea fights with him constantly and still says he is, "a great guy".

He has a great number of books published by Baen and almost none of them are solely in his own name.

From what I've heard a co-authorship at Baen is roughly a fifty-fifty split on the advance and residuals. Usually that means one of the co-authors is doing most of the heavy lifting. Basically fleshing out someone else's outline.

I am guessing he is primarily an editor who gets co-author credit. Although that is just a guess.



Blogger Joe A. May 30, 2015 8:17 PM  

So Vox has fairly recently written out several of his (apparently controversial) views in no uncertain terms... I can only assume they will be roundly ignored by the rabbits in favor of the nutty caricature they've already concocted.

Blogger Derrick Bonsell May 30, 2015 8:23 PM  

I'm hoping that Flint doesn't realize where he stuck his hand and sticks it in deeper.

Anonymous VFM.0157 aka Forrest Bishop May 30, 2015 8:27 PM  

I am a social justice warrior. Not an “SJW,” [which is simply the acronym for social justice warrior -FB] not a figment of the fevered imaginations of right-wingers, but the real deal. -EF

Oy. So the written-out term is an accurate descriptor but the acronym isn't? How can anyone take this man seriously?

"...Theodore Beale...shares Hitler’s general attitudes..." -EF

Isn't there a rule anymore that the first one to play the Hitler card loses?

"...Beale is nothing but a petty chiseler. He chisels when it comes to his opinions, always trying to play peekaboo and slime around defending what he obviously believes. And he’s trying to win Hugo awards by petty chiseling."

In the US, libel laws come into play when the assertion is provably false.

It's fascinating to watch the various SJW meltdowns. It's as if a tank has been pressurized near its burst test limit, only awaiting a trigger to set it off.

And they still haven't figured out that this movie doesn't have much of anything to do with a Maltese Hugo.

Anonymous Mike M. (#315) May 30, 2015 8:30 PM  

"Someone get Hugo Boss on the line, we're going to need some snappy new outfits for the VFM, stat"

The Nazis may have been murderous Leftists, but they WERE well-dressed.

As to Mr. Flint, all I can say is that when they printed James Schmitz's works, he went around editing out references to smoking. It's the sort of petty PC act that identifies a SJW.

Blogger VD May 30, 2015 8:34 PM  

As to Mr. Flint, all I can say is that when they printed James Schmitz's works, he went around editing out references to smoking. It's the sort of petty PC act that identifies a SJW.

Seriously? What a loser. There are few things I despise more than that sort of petty artistic vandalism.

OpenID turk187 May 30, 2015 8:38 PM  

Well, Shoot. I was reasonably pleased with Erics earlier response to puppies. It was free of the vitriol that this post is filled with. Im a big fan of the Ring of Fire universe, but in my defense I haven't paid for any of the books in years. And, I long ago decided to ignore the artist and just enjoy the work.

Blogger Cail Corishev May 30, 2015 8:51 PM  

I was reasonably pleased with Erics earlier response to puppies. It was free of the vitriol that this post is filled with.

Maybe he heard that some of his comrades noticed his lack of enthusiasm during that previous Two-Minutes Hate, so he had to raise his game this time to signal that he's still fully on board.

Blogger Daniel May 30, 2015 8:51 PM  

So...Flint doesn't get a Hugo next year either? Man, keeping the lists current are kind of a chore. I have never appreciated the hard work of Santa Claus more than now.

Blogger Daniel May 30, 2015 8:54 PM  

That is not a bad thought. I have watched plenty of them do it this round. Not one of them wants to be George Rape Raped.

Blogger Derrick Bonsell May 30, 2015 8:56 PM  

Flint is a shoe in for the Hugos now.

Anonymous Nathan May 30, 2015 9:02 PM  

Penny Arcade's Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory claims another SF author...

Blogger The Overgrown Hobbit May 30, 2015 9:04 PM  

don't hide what I really believe."

No, but you don't make it easier to figure out whether the gossip-mongers and general twits on the interwebs are wrong about you. The only way to be sure is to get down and dirty here on the blogsite and read for yourself. Over time. And I'm still having arguments with the husband about what you really believe, how much is just mistaken (the science) vs. wicked nonsense (PUA).

I figured you were doing it on purpose.

Blogger Philip Sandifer May 30, 2015 9:05 PM  

The head of Hezbollah, Hassan Nasrallah, applauded the Jews all returning to Israel. He said it would be easier to kill them all if they gathered in one place.

According to your concept he is a Zionist as well.

Maybe your concept needs more work. A little more thought, a little less B.S.


As it happens, it does not: the purpose of my concept was to help frame a question to Vox in an attempt to clarify something he said that I found ambiguous. Vox understood my question well enough to answer it. Further precision in framing it was thus unnecessary.

(Which is to say, yes, you are right, there is more that can be said about the precise relationship between anti-Zionism and anti-semitism and the extent to which the terms are or are not interchangeable, however it was not relevant to the conversation I was having at the time.)

Blogger AmyJ May 30, 2015 9:06 PM  

It's hilarious how much that flaming sword picture sticks in their craws. Although what better portrait is there for the VFM to salute to every morning before going out into the world to be vile and faceless?

Anonymous John VI May 30, 2015 9:07 PM  

Far to the right of Hitler. When did they stop teaching in school that Hitler was leftist? ( Did the labour unions demand it? Did it make all those socialist teachers look bad?) The german national SOCIALIST party! What, they think he didn't REALLY mean it? Of course VOX is far to the RIGHT of Hitler. The entire Republican party of the US is far to the RIGHT of Hitler. Hell, even the democratic party is a little to the right of hitler.

This self described socialist is so woefully uninformed about his own political philosophy as to not even know its own history, and he expects us to listen to him pontificate on the political philosophies of ANYONE else? Good luck with that.

Its no wonder they can gloss over the historical murder and destruction of their political beliefs. They never learned it in the first place so they can deny it was their belief system to begin with. It never got mentioned by their "great intellectual leaders", so it must be a right wing conspiracy theory!! Fools. The lot of them.

Blogger Philip Sandifer May 30, 2015 9:08 PM  

I figured you were doing it on purpose.

My working hypothesis is that he is, as a technique not dissimilar to Van Halen's "no brown M&Ms" clause in their tour rider. In essence, it allows him to quickly make decisions about how he wants to engage with a critic.

Blogger VD May 30, 2015 9:09 PM  

No, but you don't make it easier to figure out whether the gossip-mongers and general twits on the interwebs are wrong about you.

No, because, and I cannot possibly stress this enough, I don't care. I know what I think. And I also know that most people can't follow what I think, at least not in the way that I think it. So I seldom bother even trying to explain anything.

Blogger Philip Sandifer May 30, 2015 9:11 PM  

No, because, and I cannot possibly stress this enough, I don't care. I know what I think. And I also know that most people can't follow what I think, at least not in the way that I think it. So I seldom bother even trying to explain anything.

I grow more confident in my working hypothesis.

Blogger VD May 30, 2015 9:13 PM  

My working hypothesis is that he is, as a technique not dissimilar to Van Halen's "no brown M&Ms" clause in their tour rider. In essence, it allows him to quickly make decisions about how he wants to engage with a critic.

It's one very useful aspect, yes. Throw a little idiot bait in there and you always know who the idiots are. People tend to forget that tens of thousands of people read this blog. In addition to the comments, I get lots of email. So, I need multiple levels of filtering; I can't possibly respond substantively to everyone.

Anonymous Red Comet May 30, 2015 9:20 PM  

So this guy's first strike is to go full Godwin?

Flint might be even lower tier than that guy who who was a writing consultant that hadn't even written any books.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper May 30, 2015 9:21 PM  

Flint is an outright Wobbly style communist and apparently an Atheist to boot . He probably sees Nazis and Christians in the shadows under his bed at night.

That said I kind of enjoy his 1632 stuff . I won't be buying an for a long while after that crap though, the stupid left a bad taste in my mouth and Castalia House has plenty to keep me busy.

Anonymous zen0 May 30, 2015 9:21 PM  

however it was not relevant to the conversation I was having at the time.)

Hey, Sandifer. If I read it in the comment section, it is part of MY conversation. I don't care if it is relevant to you.

You one of them upper class twits, Sandy?

Anonymous BigGaySteve May 30, 2015 9:31 PM  

Why don't they realize AH was a leftist statist? He was for
1. High taxes
2. Big government
3. Universal healthcare , hope you don't get Dr Mengele
4. Gun control for his enemies.“To conquer a Nation, first disarm it’s Citizens”- Adolph Hitler 1933
This is awkward AH said that France would be the first nation flooded with the 3rd world.

Blogger Philip Sandifer May 30, 2015 9:31 PM  

Hey, Sandifer. If I read it in the comment section, it is part of MY conversation. I don't care if it is relevant to you.

Well, fine and dandy; however, you seemed to be misunderstanding what I was saying, and so I was explaining the argument I was actually having.

You one of them upper class twits, Sandy?

I am far from upper class, although I seem to have better reading comprehension than you.

Blogger automatthew May 30, 2015 9:41 PM  

Philip, you're a great interlocutor, and I, for one, value your contributions here.

But your diction is really faggy.

It's not a matter of vocabulary; it's prissiness. You can write more effectively, but you'll have to drop the 'tude.

Anonymous BGS May 30, 2015 9:47 PM  

I managed to sneak this comment in on their site, the moderated one similar to the above post prob wont make it.

You forgot that sci fi went from dangerous visions to safe spaces.
"If you where an easily triggered special snowflake my love" The hugo award winning tale of a thin skinned leftist dashing from one safe space to the next.

Blogger Cail Corishev May 30, 2015 9:49 PM  

You're going to have to learn to stop using weasel words here.

I hope you're not holding your breath.

Blogger Harsh May 30, 2015 9:55 PM  

Further precision in framing it was thus unnecessary.

At least you resolved the relevant conundrum.

Anonymous zen0 May 30, 2015 9:55 PM  

@ Sandifer
I am far from upper class, although I seem to have better reading comprehension than you.

My reading comprehension is just fine. Your characterization of what constitutes Zionism is lacking.

Dork.

Anonymous Scintan May 30, 2015 9:57 PM  

I wonder if Dave Freer will have any comments on this?

Given the content of this Flint outburst, the only honorable thing for Freer to do is to contact Flint, and tell him to apologize and then STFU. There's really nothing more he can do, and I seriously doubt he'd want to repeat last night.

While in the process of committing libel, Flint has exposed himself as a liar. There's really nothing that Freer can do about that.

Anonymous BigGaySteve May 30, 2015 9:59 PM  

It appears only your first comment gets moderated. Here I defended Brad Torgenson.
"The accusations leveled at Brad Torgersen was that he was racist, as the rabbits just went down the normal disqualify checklist. Him being currently married to a black woman makes that unlikely. That said my pictures of Hispanic ex boy friends are proof that I am post judiced not prejudiced. Several years working in inner city hospitals never once did I meet a black as smart as Seen on TV"

Anonymous REG May 30, 2015 10:09 PM  

I have to admit that the above comments by Eric Flint (Mister is a term of respect I shall forgo) were a surprise. My reading of his work died with the story of Andrew Jackson and Sam Houston. Something was off and felt off putting. I have bought some of his work since; but, it remains on the TBR shelf. Still I thought better of him, research/research/ research is the hallmark of a good writer and he clearly has not done that much research before making his a legations.

I started reading this blog way back because Ilana Mercer linked to it. At first, I thought "Way too far to the right side of the Republican Party- yet calls himself a Libertarian," Something don't fit. I began to read closer and dumb as I am, it quickly became obvious that you were making points that needed to be made; but, were not preaching or advocating anything hateful. You appeal to the intellect of observed common sense, which unfortunately is probably the least used of all parts of humanity.
You have published on this blog and other sites what you believe and feel is your opinion on matters. Yet, individuals like Eric Flint will ignore them and go straight to slander and mud slinging, name calling, then when you reply, you attack them.
You and I have disagreed of a few things over the years. Not many because, I try to understand what you're saying before jumping to conclusions. However, the point is that in every case, you have been up front, stated your points clearly and then politely listened to mine. You have also accepted my words as straight and not tried to make me out to be someone trying to build strawmen as I have been accused of doing (and wasn't) My son-in-law once said I was not one to suffer fools lightly, et tu? More than once, we have agreed to disagree and left it at that. In other words, you've been a gentleman. Something I have found rare in many other so called Libertarian blogs.
You are one of the few people that I think could sit down at a table with Fred Reed and I (presuming either of you would have me there) and enjoy a couple of bottles of 'Red' together.
I know that this comment is sort of out of place. Still, I think it's important to say something fair and honest to someone who is being consistently demonized.

Blogger Philip Sandifer May 30, 2015 10:15 PM  

My reading comprehension is just fine. Your characterization of what constitutes Zionism is lacking.

*sigh*

OK. Let's do this step by step.

What, precisely, do you think I said that was an attempt to characterize Zionism?

Anonymous Hey, it's Hitler! May 30, 2015 10:15 PM  

Oh
I'm a Hitler
He's a Hitler
She's a Hitler
We're a Hitler
Wouldn't you like to be a Hitler too!

Seriously, this is getting old.
Try harder, SJW's.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 30, 2015 10:22 PM  

But has Flint written any Rapefic? We know GM has crossed over into safe space VIOLATOR, but is there any evidence that Flint has?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 30, 2015 10:25 PM  

Forgot to add that the idiot socialist senator from Vermont wrote some Rapefic back in the day.

Blogger The Overgrown Hobbit May 30, 2015 10:26 PM  

No, because, and I cannot possibly stress this enough, I don't care.

Well, duh. Of course.

throw out some idiot bait

Like I said, doing it on purpose.

There are a lot of useful idiots out there, and for every Vox Day there are politicians, demogogues and con-men who really are working for the Glorious /snark/ We've Seen This Tribal Khreppe Before /snark/ New Revolution when all the black people can finally be put in their proper place as hewers of wood and drawers of water (where they belong, the savages), all the sexually and mentally different can be locked up or shot, and we can finally quit wasting money on women's education which only teaches them they'd make their own living and die alone and celibate than be forced to choose between marriage to a abusive drunk or prostitution to survive.

We know these guys exist on the left (Radical Islam, anyone?) and I've found a few whacky "Christian" and neo-pagan adherents on the (social) conservative and anarcho-libertarian side.

And like SJWs they all lie, and they're all coy about what they say to the Dar al Islam and what they say to the Dar al Harb

And no way does any decent person want to get snookered into standing up and saying "No, their religion (politics, philosophy) is heretical (asinine, mistaken) but they aren't evil, or advocates of evil"

On the other hand, all it takes for actual evil to spread is for decent people to stand by, stay silent, and let the gossip and slander flow unopposed.

@BGS smart as seen on TV It's the inner city, not the blackness. Read Dalrymple: his clientele are white. Before the SJWs and LBJ got their boots on the backs of the black community, they were on their way up, just like the Scots-Irish. Go pull up old NYTs from the 1800s. Those red heads were "vibrant" as hell

Anonymous zen0 May 30, 2015 10:35 PM  

@Sandifer
>What, precisely, do you think I said that was an attempt to characterize Zionism?

this

Philip Sandifer May 30, 2015 6:58 PM

Zionism is not incompatible with anti-semitism.


Do your best.

Step by step, so I, your intellectual inferior, can follow along.

Anonymous BGS May 30, 2015 10:35 PM  

Seriously, this is getting old. Try harder, SJW's.

Springtime For Hitler would sound better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiryTUCtLNA

Anonymous FP May 30, 2015 10:37 PM  

"Oy. So the written-out term is an accurate descriptor but the acronym isn't? How can anyone take this man seriously?"

Reminds me of the lefty that told me back in 2009 or so that "I don't take anyone seriously who calls it Obamacare. Its the Affordable Healthcare Act."

Blogger Harsh May 30, 2015 10:39 PM  

Seriously, this is getting old. Try harder, SJW's.

They can't. They only have the one playbook and it was written in '71.

Anonymous zen0 May 30, 2015 10:50 PM  

I can't wait all night, Sandy.

zen0 out

Blogger Philip Sandifer May 30, 2015 10:58 PM  

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Blogger Philip Sandifer May 30, 2015 11:02 PM  

Do your best.

Step by step, so I, your intellectual inferior, can follow along.


OK.

Vox's statement "I am a zionist" was an illocutionary act; a declaration of membership. It says more about affiliation than it does about the precise nature of Vox's views about Jewish people. It describes Vox's views primarily by comparison with those held by other people who self-identify as such.

My subsequent use of "zionism" (note that it is, chronologically, the next use of a word of the form "zion*" in the conversation) is thus best read as referring to the category of people who have engaged in similar illocutionary acts. An essentially similar statement would be "I am capable of imagining a person who identifies as a zionist who would nevertheless hold views that could fairly be described as anti-semitic." Except that's terribly wordy, and I (correctly, I reiterate) assumed Vox would follow what I meant without that level of precision.

The first clue is in the double negative; the effect is to deliberately avoid making the statement "zionism is compatible with antisemitism," which would be an effort to characterize the ideological content of the word "zionism" as opposed to an effort to highlight a point of potential ambiguity regarding Vox's views about Jewish people.

Other clues exist subsequently in the conversation.

Blogger Daniel May 30, 2015 11:07 PM  

Philip, I think that is the characterization that zen0 suggests is lacking. You said he didn't comprehend it, but he understood it fine. Trying to slowly demonstrate what he already comprehended isn't going to make your bad notion any better to him.

Keep in mind that you had already forgotten that you had characterized Zionism at all.

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Blogger Daniel May 30, 2015 11:21 PM  

GD cocomment! Double posts everything I write, when it should be cutting me off midsen-

Blogger J Melcher May 30, 2015 11:23 PM  

"But has Flint written any Rapefic? "

I rather like the _1632_ series. That said, the "honeymoon" between characters Jeff and Gretchen, where Gretchen more or less surrenders to the power imbalance between hi-tech "Americans" and camp-following, poorly-educated, oppressed female "down-time" Germans is rather "rape-y" -- by the definitions of the term established the SJWs. On the other hand, the whole point of Flint's honeymoon scenario is that Christian Marriage redeems and mutually empowers partners across even such a huge divide. The "victim", Gretchen, become a new character at this plot point, one who is never again anyone's victim, precisely because she was NOT raped. She was married, and consented, and submitted, and became, essentially, in her own medieval view, enobled -- by enjoying sex with her new teen-aged husband.

There are a lot of worse sex scenes in SF.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales May 30, 2015 11:41 PM  

Hey, I have a question for the good folk here.

Considering the media's fear and kow-towing to Hadjis... what do you think would happen if, say, all of a sudden, a bunch of like minded folks like us who were decidedly not Islamic decided to kill a bunch of our political enemies and riot in the streets while shouting chants wishing death to said enemies.

I mean, if the cops can't be bothered to reign in a bunch of unarmed jack-asses, what do you think they'd do when the rioters this time are decidedly not unarmed?

Blogger Corvinus May 30, 2015 11:52 PM  

They can't. They only have the one playbook and it was written in '71.

@Harsh
Liberal IQ dysgenia has been running full tilt since the Pill came out.

Anonymous Laz May 30, 2015 11:53 PM  

zen0: "Dork,"

LOL! I think the last time I heard that word was when I watched Flight of the Navigator when I was a kid.

Anonymous Amok Time May 31, 2015 12:00 AM  

" My favorite was Flint's claim to a) know I share Hitler's ideas on race but b) not know my views about Jews. We're clearly dealing with a real master of logic here."

Yes, and ALL appear to be mind readers! They know VD or any of the vile minions much better than he knows himself! Then, they twist and lie! Beezlebub would be so proud of his little SJW urchins!

Blogger Jim May 31, 2015 12:01 AM  

Considering the media's fear and kow-towing to Hadjis... what do you think would happen if, say, all of a sudden, a bunch of like minded folks like us who were decidedly not Islamic decided to kill a bunch of our political enemies and riot in the streets while shouting chants wishing death to said enemies.

All I ask is that you please wait for me to finish my reactionless thruster design that runs on hypocrisy and double standards first. I'm pretty sure I would be able to power a good-sized Ark to 0.2c with the resulting fuel.

Anonymous Eric Ashley May 31, 2015 12:05 AM  

Seeing Flint as more like Truman than Obama might be helpful.

He's also more sympathetic to the lower-middle class than to most elites.

He's a Dem who honestly likes Unions, instead of the modern love Gender Study Professors.

He's a bit pragmatic.

His comment about politics needing to be boxing rather than a blood sport was rather enlightening. Also, he came out, basically in support of DDT.

And he's a fast, easy and enjoyable read.

Even this attack on Vox has a bit of style....calling Vox a petty chiseler is definitely an upgrade from the usual attacks Vox gets.

Blogger SirThermite May 31, 2015 12:11 AM  

As VFM #0015, might I humbly mumble (with eyes downcast) a supplication that our uniforms be a sorta reverse-stillsuit? Need something to assist us in shrugging of all the spit, piss, and above all, tears that are being directed our way by the SJWs

Blogger SmokeyJoe May 31, 2015 12:14 AM  

E. Flint....Bought it, bought it hook, line and sinker. Heh! What a rube!

Anonymous tiredofitall May 31, 2015 12:19 AM  

"I think they can't quite grasp that I'm not hiding anything." - VD

That's because behind every SJW is a couple of skeletons they'd hate for the world to find out about. Look at idiots like Arthur Chu who admitted he witnessed a rape and did nothing about it. Or the head morons in the SFWA who knew of Marion Zimmer-Bradley's sex crimes, or her husbands as well and did nothing about it.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales May 31, 2015 12:21 AM  

@Jim

So you're saying all of a sudden they'd grow a pair, or rather, send guys who have pair to do their dirty work and bring in the heavy artillery, cavalry, and infantry, likely in the form of the national guard.

I'm not so convinced they'd have the balls for that, to be honest. Again, to reiterate, all it takes to make the politicians and the left to wet themselves are a bunch of Hadjis just making threats even though they comprise a very small minority of the American population. Given this fact, and the fact that, in my scenario, a far larger percentage of the population that is also considerably more well armed would be wrecking shit, what is the magical formula here you think is going to make the left grow some balls, especially if we actually do manage to take out a whole bunch of them in the process?

Anonymous Laz May 31, 2015 12:25 AM  

@ SirThermite: I think a nice snazzy uniform with a personal force-field would be cool. And maybe a "ceremonial" sword that's really sharp enough to take your head off in one stroke.

Blogger Jim May 31, 2015 12:37 AM  

@Emmanuel

Given how many ROTCers will wear red-heeled shoes at their female commander's whim, I'm not as sanguine as you are that the Armed Forces are fully in our camp. And even if they are now, there are more defections each day as brave and honorable men grow disgusted with what the institution's become and are replaced by those more comfortable in a post-binary gender latrine than a battlefield.

I believe the police would be more comfortable going up against a group of well-armed men where they have the approval of the media and political elites to shoot and execute with all that wonderful Federally granted military gear than rock-throwing punks they are not allowed to draw down on.

There is also the fact that I am probably grossly underestimating the number of people participating in your scenario, simply because I believe that if you could reach, say Fergusen levels of right-wing misbehavior, you would achieve a critical mass and whatever the media and elites did would be irrelevant to the outcome.

Anonymous The other robot May 31, 2015 12:38 AM  

Blade Runner was set in 2019. 2019 is just around the corner ...

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales May 31, 2015 12:55 AM  

@Jim

Implying that the infantry of today's military has the balls to shoot Hadjis nowadays let alone American citizens who don't think they can hit soldiers with AK from several hundred meters in nation with working irrigation?

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales May 31, 2015 12:56 AM  

@Jim

You're also forgetting that the person who blew the whistle on that shit... was one of the soldiers complaining about it on social media.

Anonymous The other robot May 31, 2015 12:58 AM  

I believe the police would be more comfortable going up against a group of well-armed men where they have the approval of the media and political elites to shoot and execute with all that wonderful Federally granted military gear than rock-throwing punks they are not allowed to draw down on.

Are you referring to Waco?

Blogger SirThermite May 31, 2015 12:59 AM  

@ Laz

Or a 9mm, for decorative purposes only. But I repeat myself, or so I've been told by others on this site [grins]

Blogger maniacprovost May 31, 2015 1:04 AM  

"a nice snazzy uniform with a personal force-field would be cool"

The Empire, with its enormous generators capable of shielding a planet, never developed a personal force-shield. They had no need. The Foundation, with its limited resources, miniaturized its technology by necessity.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales May 31, 2015 1:07 AM  

@maniacprovost

Which is one of the stupider things about Star Wars. You're telling me that they have the resources for all that, yet NO ONE in the vast thousands of years of history of the galaxy has ever decided to outfit their infantry and personnel with personal force-field generators? The flying fuck?

Anonymous tiredofitall May 31, 2015 1:10 AM  

@ maniacprovost

Did you miss the scenes in the prequels where all the fighting droids had shields?

The reason I think they never bothered to shield the clone and post-clone forces is that it's cheaper to just get more soldiers than to outfit an armada with shield tech that the rebellion could possibly get its hands on.

Anonymous Laz May 31, 2015 1:13 AM  

@ SirThermite: While i9mm is a serviceable caliber I personally would like a filigreed, shiny Desert Eagle with the 2" muzzle brake in .44mag. .44 because it handles surprisingly well, even without the muzzle break. And it's the size of your thigh so, you can't miss it. Do I sound like I'm drooling? Because I am.

Blogger Josh May 31, 2015 1:25 AM  

Y'all...he's talkng about the empire in the foundation series...not star wars...

Blogger OldFan May 31, 2015 1:38 AM  

Flint's stories have one revealing feature that is repeated at some point in all of them: the Bad People, They who Think Wrong, are always completely massacred - they are gone forever. Other foes are often forced to surrender or simply retreat but there is a complete slaughter of certain sets of people.

It is done with some skill: the stories carefully paint them as irredeemable and lacking in any virtues, so they Get What They Deserve. But in all cases, the Better World Demands Death of Wrongthinkers. As his series (Rivers of War, 1632) go on it, becomes noticeably more prevalent. You have to break some eggs to make these omelets.

In addition, any character who defends current beliefs or social norms (the settings are in past history) is invariably one of the Bad Guys (or Stupid Bad Guys) - there is nothing good in the current society of any of his imaginary worlds, so it must all be changed or destroyed (pretty much the same thing).

I don't much care for Flint's stories any more.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales May 31, 2015 1:42 AM  

@ tiredofitall

Dude.... did you even listen to what you wrote? If you did, you'd smack yourself in the head for speaking such idiocy.

Blogger SirThermite May 31, 2015 2:01 AM  

@Laz

Had the opportunity to rent a Desert Eagle 44 Mag about 10 years ago and even without the muzzle break it wasn't too bad. Except for the sound pressure anyway...every other shooter at the small indoor range would cease firing when me or a couple of my buddies started emptying a magazine. Going in sorta the opposite direction (big caliber in a lighter-than-usual frame), I also had a chance to try out a Glock 36, and for me personally it shot better than almost any stock or custom .45 I've handled.

Blogger epobirs May 31, 2015 2:02 AM  

I read one Flint novel and never felt a desire to read any more of his work. The novel tried to make communism functional by having Earth conquered by a species who were communists on the genetic level. Nobody objected to taking orders from the ruling class because they were born that way and, of course, those born to be drones would be lost without them. So, the real what if of the story was whether colony insects could evolve into something that would pass a Turing test. It seemed like a lot of work for the objective of being able to say, "See? Communism can work!" Sure, if you're an ant.

Anonymous The Deuce May 31, 2015 2:32 AM  

Wow, this Eric Flynt guy sounds a lot keener on Hitler than Vox ever did on honor killings.

Anonymous Erik May 31, 2015 3:22 AM  

To paraphrase Andy Warhol: In the future everyone will be Hitler for 15 minutes.

Anonymous A. Nonymous May 31, 2015 5:14 AM  

Which is one of the stupider things about Star Wars. You're telling me that they have the resources for all that, yet NO ONE in the vast thousands of years of history of the galaxy has ever decided to outfit their infantry and personnel with personal force-field generators? The flying fuck?

There are (or were, in the old EU) personal shields, but the official story on their scarcity was that they tended to subject the user to a lot of heat and/or radiation and thus were largely impractical for the most part.

Blogger SciVo May 31, 2015 6:19 AM  

@Nathan: Penny Arcade's Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory claims another SF author...

No, it has nothing to do with GIFT due to the lack of anonymity. This is a completely different phenomenon, most likely related to in-group signaling and tribal tunnel vision.

Blogger Cail Corishev May 31, 2015 7:02 AM  

Implying that the infantry of today's military has the balls to shoot Hadjis nowadays

You're starting from a faulty assumption: they don't let those groups riot for lack of balls; they do it because those groups are on their side. Why would they attack their allies?

If the rioters were white Christians, then yes, they'd send out the military. See Waco. They'd pass stories to their buddies in the media that the rioters were trafficking in drugs and kiddie porn, use that as justification for bringing in regular soldiers and heavy guns (you don't want to try to use the local Guard for this; better to bring guys from across the country somewhere who won't feel any affinity for the targets, and you need the drug excuse for that). Local cops might ostensibly be out front, but backed up by feds and troops to make sure they stay on mission.

Now, if there are enough numbers that they can't play the Waco game because too many people know the targets and know what's really going on, it might be different -- they'd still call out the military, but it might not work. But that's the plan they've been prepping for for years, with their camps and anti-domestic terrorism training.

Blogger Student in Blue May 31, 2015 7:21 AM  

It's also very politically inexpedient to crack down on anyone who isn't a white male, in large parts thanks to feminism.

So if a rioting mob is non-white and/or non-male in the majority, it becomes very hard to justify and handwave off excessive amounts of force.

Also, I wonder if Emmanuel Mateo-Morales actually knows anyone in the infantry. All the ones I've met that have deployed never shied away from what they'd done (which was kill a good number of people while deployed, sometimes innocent, a number of times not).

Blogger Gordon May 31, 2015 9:26 AM  

"But has Flint written any Rapefic?"''

Not quite the first scene, but really the second scene, in 1632 is a rape scene. Unlike GRRM, it doesn't end well for the rapists.

Blogger Dexter May 31, 2015 10:01 AM  

The Empire, with its enormous generators capable of shielding a planet, never developed a personal force-shield.

They sure did spend a lot of money outfitting the stormtroopers with armor that doesn't stop energy weapons or even Ewok-launched primitive missile weapons.

Anonymous Proud SJW #4921 May 31, 2015 10:24 AM  

Eric Flint and Matthew Woodring Stover are my two favorite authors.

The fact they hate your guts is only more scienctific proof that Vox Day sucks.

Blogger Dexter May 31, 2015 11:10 AM  

Works the other way, too, #4921.

When they publicly vomit on VD for Wrongthink, that tells me they suck, don't buy, don't read.

Anonymous REG May 31, 2015 11:43 AM  

" Proud SJW #4921 May 31, 2015 10:24 AM

Eric Flint and Matthew Woodring Stover are my two favorite authors.

The fact they hate your guts is only more scienctific proof that Vox Day sucks."

Yep, that's what I was talking about.

Anonymous Harsh May 31, 2015 12:24 PM  

If you knew how to spell scientific, your point might be convincing.

Blogger maniacprovost May 31, 2015 12:56 PM  

The fact that you call yourself #4921 is the first bit of evidence that you think in rhetorical, emotional, illogical terms. You copy the forms of the VFMs, with no understanding of what the numbers represent.

"Eric Flint and Matthew Woodring Stover are my two favorite authors."

That is "scienctific proof" that your taste in iterature sucks.

Let's DISQUALIFY Van Vogt, Varley, Vinge, and Vance, and all the other superior but defunct writers. Harry Turtledove by himself does alternate history better than Flint.

Anonymous tiredofitall May 31, 2015 2:06 PM  

"Dude.... did you even listen to what you wrote? If you did, you'd smack yourself in the head for speaking such idiocy." - Emmanuel Mateo-Morales


How so? If the Empire tried to outfit every stormtrooper with a personal shield it'd be mostly risk, very little reward from their viewpoint. If a stormtrooper was ever caught that meant the rebellion now had the tech and then what?

It's just easier to get more troopers from the populace than it is to risk giving a tech advantage to the enemy.

Anonymous Dave May 31, 2015 4:02 PM  

But...SCIENCTE!

OpenID ymarsakar May 31, 2015 4:56 PM  

The world trembles and shakes, just like it does in the imagination of a mouse whenever that mouse imagines itself to be an elephant. Except no mouse who ever lived was this stupid.

Writing style analysis there. It's a mark of Flint, since his Belisarius series had the same type of flowery style for descriptions.

Why is that important? Namely because writers like David Brin extrapolate from their own written universes, how the world runs. For Brin, it was the Iraq war and the environmentalism (or not) of Hussein Saddam. This logically led him to acclaim the new Hussein, of America. A lot of that could be connected to his Uplift series, as if he was playing out a role he had written for himself in his book universes.

However, parsing out what goes on in this outer world requires different methods than writers utilize for creating fictional universes or researching non fictional historical figures. They often forget how much is beyond their powers of deduction, induction, and imagination. For in their world, nothing, not the intent nor the character of witnesses, are beyond their mind.

Blogger Mark Citadel May 31, 2015 4:59 PM  

"By the time I was in my early twenties I decided I was a socialist—which I am to this day"

So he's an enemy of Occidental Christendom. Period. What more is there to say? He disqualifies himself before we even get into his idiocy regarding his Hitler characterizations. You can tell which authors suck, and pine for the attention they are not getting, because you are sure to find that they attack Vox Day.

Blogger Danby May 31, 2015 5:57 PM  

Proud SJW #4921
Let me guess, bottom?
I win, don't I?

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales May 31, 2015 6:44 PM  

@Student in Blue

Yeah... the ones you met, which were undoubtedly combat vets of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars who were there before Obama could properly neuter the armed forces and who are probably getting the fuck out even as we speak.

Also, there's no such thing as an innocent Hadji, only Hadjis who are allied with you out of convenience due to their hatred of other Hadjis, so that statement doesn't make any sense.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales May 31, 2015 6:52 PM  

@tiredofitall

Asshole, the rebels ALREADY DO have access to the technology, which is the very same technology that protects their ships. The only difference between outfitting a starship with deflector shield and outfitting infantry with deflector shields is that outfitting infantry requires FAR FEWER resources than a giant hundred kilometer or multi kilometer long vessel since the principle is the exact same in either case.

It wouldn't take fucking Lex Luthor and Tony Stark combined to figure that shit out and to apply it to infantry and certainly wouldn't be that much of a diversion of Rebel resources since, to reiterate, they have enough resources to outfit incredibly large starships with the fucking technology.

Even if radiation or heat from the shields themselves were a factor, just outfit the rebels with some sort of lightweight and insulating material like the kind used in starships (especially the super coolant used to cool turbolasers) or heck, even the kind stormtroopers wear to protect them from that while the deflector shield defend them from blaster fire.

Anonymous Culture War Draftee #151 May 31, 2015 8:44 PM  

Flint has done at least three Hugo posts by now. The middle one was truly special. He started talking about how SJWs are all in our imagination. So James May offered up a few choice quotes from various prog-tard luminaries. He has a lot more ability to stomach that sort of research than I do. May could have filled up a lot more space than he did.

So what I have to wonder is:
1) Why Flint can't figure out that he's trying to prove a negative. Spend enough time Mr. flint, you will find this if you look. Flint's asking who are we going to believe, Eric Flint or our lying eyes.
2) Why he thinks we should love & respect the anti-white, anti-man, anti-cis/het, etc, etc. the prog-tards spew. It may be sweet reason to Flint (assuming he could bring himself to believe it exists), but does he really think that straight up hatred of straight, white men should be more popular among straight, white men?

Buy a clue already Flint.

Anonymous tiredofitall May 31, 2015 9:57 PM  

@ Emmanuel Mateo-Morales

Okay fuckstick you want this to get real, here it is. No the fucking Rebels did not have shields for their ships, only for the ice base on Hoth, or else every X-wing they threw at the Deathstar (aside from Luke's) would have made it back.

Watch the original trilogy again....asshole.

Blogger automatthew May 31, 2015 10:02 PM  

Keep it civil, Star Wars fans.

Blogger maniacprovost May 31, 2015 11:02 PM  

Despite the prequel droids, I feel that you need a certain economy of scale to make force fields or warp cores practical. The storm troopers would be stumbling around with 50 lb battery packs on their backs.

Anonymous Faceless Wanderer June 01, 2015 2:25 AM  

"On the subject of Jews, I am a Zionist..."
Please imagine I have inserted herein a most amusing moving image of one Charles Foster Kane slowly clapping his hands.

Vox, I don't think you are as smart as you think you are, but goddamn sometimes I might be wrong.

Anonymous flyingtiger June 01, 2015 12:27 PM  

I met Eric Flint. He is a walking contradiction. He told me stories of his labor union organizing. At the same time, he writes the all American 1632 series. He also gets along well with the right ringers at Baen.

Blogger jmyron June 04, 2015 4:34 PM  

“ignorance can be fixed; stupid is forever.”

Unfortunately for Mr. Flint, he seems to be on the wrong side of that comparison.

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