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Tuesday, May 12, 2015

SJWs in OSS II

It's being further investigated by others closer to the OSS dev community, but the evidence about SJWs invading Open Source Software is bolstered by additional emails posted to the London Ruby User's Group mailing list:
Really great you both brought this up. I've been responsible for building up a small tech team within Barclays and we've had a push towards much more diversity. This has been driven by the huge lack of diversity within the existing tech teams. We are tasked with building prototypes which are not business critical so we have a lot of space to move around with then other areas of the company which require levels of experience & current ability which traditionally bias against minorities facing oppression.
  • We avoided posting adverts on tech mailing lists and in places where women and minorities are underrepresented, instead using the same budget we would have used on places like unicorn jobs, in places such as in Ethnic minority related magazines and publications, LGBT related publications and websites (such as out.com). The cost of advertising was so expensive in tech related spaces we could cover many more adverts in spaces that would reach to minorities and we got an excellent response.
  • We never assume to know someones preferred pronoun. When responding to applicants we always ask for their preferred pronoun, even if it seems obvious (there's more than 2). The response to this has been great so far.
  • We've effectively had to create our own internal structure independent from the rest of the company to ensure that diversity is catered for. Slowly but surely though, we're affecting the rest of the business.
So far we've grown the team to 6. 4 of us identify as female (with one
being transgender) and 5 of us are PoC.

That's pure SJW entryism at work. Notice how the SJWs a) are safely ensconced in an area where they can avoid being held accountable for providing objective business-critical results, b) have created their own independent internal structure, c) have long range goals to enforce their ideology on the rest of the company.

It also shows how you can best hunt down and eliminate SJWs from your organization. Look for them in non-critical roles where the focus is internal rather than external. And don't expect to be able to rely upon objective metrics to provide an excuse for firing them, they actively avoid being measured or held accountable in any way. Your best bet is to nail them on their consistent refusal to abide by company guidelines, their failure to fulfill certain specified responsibilities or follow clear directions, or their repeated hiring of people who are observably unqualified.

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151 Comments:

Anonymous Crispy May 12, 2015 8:14 AM  

Sounds like this part of Barclays hasn't totally wigged out. If they have to check of the diversity in tech box, they are apparently limiting the damage: "building prototypes which are not business critical". In other industries that would be digging holes then filling them back in. It's a way of paying the diversity tax.

Anonymous Peter Garstig May 12, 2015 8:15 AM  

The response to this has been great so far.

If you only ask freaks freak questions, of course they'll respond 'greatly'.

If those diversity principles really created an advantage to a business, we would have successfull startups founded on this principles for ages. In fact, the contrary can and will be observed.

Blogger Nate May 12, 2015 8:31 AM  

People in power need to understand that these are not quirky little parts of the business that are just eccentric and harmless.

They are tumors... and they must be cut out or destroyed.

Blogger Harsh May 12, 2015 8:32 AM  

4 of us identify as female (with one being transgender)

But if I identify as Klingon, they call me crazy.

Anonymous Dirtnapninja May 12, 2015 8:34 AM  

Its actually interesting how similar this is to standard maoist insurgencies, where you wreck the institutional framework while building one of your own to first compete with, then replace it.

Blogger Nate May 12, 2015 8:36 AM  

we need to get BigGaySteve to go to work for Out and start hiring straight people.

Anonymous p-dawg May 12, 2015 8:40 AM  

I think that team should be moved into mission-critical production work immediately. They can show the true power of diversity.

Blogger Cataline Sergius May 12, 2015 8:42 AM  

I've been responsible for building up a small tech team within Barclays and we've had a push towards much more diversity. This has been driven by the huge lack of diversity within the existing tech teams.

Being diverse is pretty much the only thing we bring to the party. Its basically our job description.

We are tasked with building prototypes which are not business critical...

We do nothing of any importance, whatsoever, No one trusts us. But in todays Britain we provide the vitally important role of air cover for SJW bombing runs. Rue Britannia!

Blogger Tank May 12, 2015 8:48 AM  

4 of us identify as female

Just kill me now.

Mental illness is normal.

This kind of thing makes me glad I'm old and may not live to see the endgame of this lunacy.

Anonymous Peter Garstig May 12, 2015 8:51 AM  

CTO: "Oh. Production does not work anymore. Who deployed"
Samantha Colorful: "It was Frank Diverse. I assisted. We did it fast!"
CTO: "What exactly did he do?"
Samantha Colorful: "She doesn't identify as a 'he'. She transformed ..."
CTO: "What exactly did she do?" (loud)
Samantha Colorful: "I just wanted to come to this. She transformed herself into a woman years ago and felt that she would discriminate against her former self, so she kept her name. And I don't like your tone."
CTO: "What went wrong when she deployed."
Samantha Colorful: "Everything went fine. There were no errors! (rollse eyes). It's a little thick to assume that something went wrong just because she identifies as a woman"
CTO: "Hell, our production system is down. We loose customers by the second. Go fix this." (enraged)
Samantha Colorful: "I'll do that as soon as I've filled out a report to HR regarding your harsh behaviour"

Blogger Astrosmith May 12, 2015 8:52 AM  

"The cost of advertising was so expensive in tech related spaces we could cover many more adverts in spaces that would reach to minorities and we got an excellent response."

Yeah, there's a reason it costs more to recruit from places where you'll find people that can do the job.

Anonymous Smokey May 12, 2015 8:58 AM  

At this rate, these morons are going to end up making "diversity" a dirty word like "National Socialism" is now.

God, I can't wait for the eventual mega-backlash. It's going to be gloriously hilarious.

Blogger Nate May 12, 2015 9:01 AM  

"God, I can't wait for the eventual mega-backlash. It's going to be gloriously hilarious."

no. it will be many things... but it won't be funny.

Blogger Underwater Operative May 12, 2015 9:03 AM  

Juxtapose this entryism with the File 770 comment Vox posted on Sunday, "SJW summarizes SJWism"

"Gully Foyle on May 10, 2015 at 9:52 am said:
Dynamo, just shut it. Tolerance does not demand that one tolerate the intolerant. The open minded need not embrace those that would destroy their society."

We already knew it wasn't "their society", as the Barclay quote shows. The Barclay comment illustrates the infection point. It's a department in a corporation that has become 'patient zero.' Once it spreads to the rest of the company the virus believes itself to be the actual Host.

Blogger borderwalker May 12, 2015 9:15 AM  

The fun part is: Mr. Gully Foyle doesn't see (or care about) his obvious double standard, nor does he understand that the reasoning he applies is a two-way street.

There is no reason for us to tolerate them engaging in behavior that, "...would destroy [our] society."

Anonymous PhillipGeorge©2015 May 12, 2015 9:18 AM  

If it makes money government will want to tax it, fair enough; but SJWs will want to run it because success in anything is clear evidence of discrimination. More importantly why build a house when you can simply evict the owners?

See: its simple. If anyone is more successful than us it is clear evidence of discrimination. If you disagree, that's hate speech, illegal everywhere, as from yesterday.

Fundamental human rights have proven us right time and time again. If you disagree, that's hate speech.

What's mine is mine, what's ours is mine, what's your's has been gained by oppression and discrimination, and is the clear evidence of ongoing discrimination. All replies are hate speech. You have the right to appeal all of these determinations, and I intend to discharge my responsibility to hear all appeals, and decide which of them are inspired by hate speech and which of them can be dismissed for other reasons.

therein Vox, the classic line of legal Catch 22: the people you are complaining to are the people you are complaining about.

Blogger JartStar May 12, 2015 9:23 AM  

God, I can't wait for the eventual mega-backlash. It's going to be gloriously hilarious.

There won't be a mega-backlash.

Anonymous DT May 12, 2015 9:28 AM  

We never assume to know someones preferred pronoun. When responding to applicants we always ask for their preferred pronoun, even if it seems obvious (there's more than 2).

God I hope somebody asks me this someday.

"He of great power and wrath who shakes the very foundations of the Earth and causes his enemies to tremble in fear."

And no, you may not use "he" for short. That will trigger me.

Anonymous Big Bill May 12, 2015 9:33 AM  

This is classic affirmative action ca. 1964: advertise jobs to minorities in minority rich spaces. The next step (when selective advertising is not enough) is quotas.

Even if "him, her, it?" or "L, B, G, T, Q?" are not on the corporate application form (yet), the SJW interviewer can ask "where did you hear about the job?" and know the applicant is a proper SJW genderqueer when it answers "the LBGTQ Journal".

Which suggests an interesting legal challenge: if you are asked your sexual orientation, consider a legal challenge: "what does the gender I like to fsck have to do with my ability to code in C++?"

Blogger El Borak May 12, 2015 9:38 AM  

There won't be a mega-backlash.

Quite correct. Diversity is just a euphemism for Affirmative Action, which is itself a euphemism. Once Affirmative Action became a bad word, SJWs just added sexual disorientation to racial quotas, changed the name, and moved on as if Affirmative Action never existed. If there is a backlash against diversity (the word), SJWs will have moved on to medley or some such and probably established hiring quotas for otherkin or some such.

Anonymous DT May 12, 2015 9:40 AM  

"what does the gender I like to fsck have to do with my ability to code in C++?"

Implying the job wouldn't be for C+=.

Blogger Nate May 12, 2015 9:50 AM  

"There won't be a mega-backlash. "

you haven't read very much history if you really believe that.

Blogger Cogitans Iuvenis May 12, 2015 9:55 AM  

experience and ability are a bias now? Jesus H Christ....

Anonymous Heh May 12, 2015 9:56 AM  

Your best bet is to nail them on their consistent refusal to abide by company guidelines, their failure to fulfill certain specified responsibilities or follow clear directions, or their repeated hiring of people who are observably unqualified.

You can always fire anyone for using the internet for non-work purposes on company time.

Anonymous Nah May 12, 2015 9:58 AM  

At this rate, these morons are going to end up making "diversity" a dirty word like "National Socialism" is now.

Alas, it will always be a word like Communism -- something that's great in theory, and any problems it has in practice are attributable to wreckers, saboteurs, enemies of the people, and the fact that It Has Never Really Been Tried.

We must try harder, comrades! With moar diversity!

Anonymous johnc May 12, 2015 9:58 AM  

History will judge us as an unserious people living in a serious time, to paraphrase Pat Buchanan.

I sort of get a bit of a September 10th vibe these days. People are off dealing in such frivolity, completely oblivious to the asteroid that's coming.

Anonymous Feh May 12, 2015 9:59 AM  

"experience and ability are a bias now?"

Unearned privilege, or something. The underprivileged would have experience and ability if not for endemic institutional racism and sexism holding them back, ya see.

Anonymous The other robot May 12, 2015 10:09 AM  

Shine some light on them.

Ask Barclay's management to describe their experiences with diversity and the ROI in concrete terms.

However, in the financial services industry they probably have plenty of profit to throw around on useless things. Especially in London where reportedly Labour increased its seats.

Blogger JartStar May 12, 2015 10:23 AM  

Nate,

I've actually read a tremendous amount and looked at the future demographic projections of the US, and taken into account the current polling data on social issues and there won't be a backlash. At least not a backlash for decades or even centuries. Even if there is an economic collapse of some nature in our lifetimes, there won't be a backlash. What might happen if the US fractures in some way will be silos of ideology in which SJWs are not tolerated in certain parts but some sort of nationwide resurgence against over a century of sliding left in the USA would be a fluke, not an inevitable outcome.

The first bellwether happening now is gay marriage, in which the only group which is against it now are white Protestants. Even the laity in the RCC is in favor of it. This is a declining demographic as a percentage of the population which means that eventually they will be marginalized. We can already see this in the court cases removing religious freedom. The Millennials for better or worse are the future simply because they are younger and they overwhelming support gay marriage with absolutely no indication their opinion will magically change in the future any more than any other civil rights issue.

The second bellwether is the very likely generational (at least, possibly permanent) Democrat majority starting with this next presidential election. Is there any less enthusiasm for a candidate than Hillary? Though I must admit 4-8 years of Clinton scandals which have already started will be fun to watch, she's still likely to win even though she's not an exciting candidate and though she is already successfully playing to identity politics.

There are more demographic trends as well, but this is simply the two big ones right now, and there's historical precedent of empires declining, doing exactly what we are doing and not recovering.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 May 12, 2015 10:35 AM  

I do not believe they will succeed because most software developers tend to judge people based on their merit rather than their racial or gender identity. They are more than willing to accept diversity, but if the diversity hires can't do their job, they won't be sought after for work.

Anonymous Porky May 12, 2015 10:36 AM  

From the sad, obese, atheist Najaf Ali:

"The best I could come up with to point us in a generally inclusive
direction was to declare all charitable contributions we've made as a
company and ask potential candidates to make sure they're on board with
them before submitting an application (every charity is offensive to
someone).
As an example, we've given to charities that specifically work with women's
issues or issues that women are more likely to experience. This is likely
to put off gamergate-inspired MRA's."

Blogger Cataline Sergius May 12, 2015 10:38 AM  

@JartStar

I wish you were right.

But this feels like a pre-civil war environment to me.

The problem is simple, they won't leave us alone. The progressive cult just won't tolerate independent thought.

The second problem is that given a chance at all, we will stop supporting their parasite classes. SJWs can't survive this and somewhere inside their leadership know it.

Anonymous Maximo Macaroni May 12, 2015 10:39 AM  

No Nazis foresaw a backlash against Nazism in 1934. They were looking forward confidently to a thousand-year Reich. What could the SJWs do that would provoke the same kind of backlash that hit the Nazis in 1945? How about destroying the human race by making it impossible to have a reproduction rate that would sustain the population? When that connection becomes clear, the backlash will start.

Blogger D. Lane May 12, 2015 10:45 AM  

At this rate, these morons are going to end up making "diversity" a dirty word like "National Socialism" is now.

They are already there. Or, at the very least, they are dangerously near the threshold.

Anonymous johnc May 12, 2015 10:49 AM  

The time is coming where if you're right-leaning you won't be able to get a job. I keep saying this. Some of you don't believe yet.

Believe me, these people are working from the inside. And to them, ideology trumps business success, making money, quartery reports, market share, ambition, whatever. Just look at Mozilla.

The sooner right-leaning people begin to take care of their own -- employing their own, doing business with their own, patronizing their own -- the better.

Anonymous dh May 12, 2015 10:51 AM  

I do not believe they will succeed because most software developers tend to judge people based on their merit rather than their racial or gender identity. They are more than willing to accept diversity, but if the diversity hires can't do their job, they won't be sought after for work.

After years of hiring in this business, I have a finely crafted policy that usually gets me very good hires. But I have the same challenges, which is, it doesn't look good to have a uniform team.

When I bend, usually under pressure, is when we tend to have problems with the hires. One thing that SJW's, or even just generally mediocre people hate, is objective standards. I've never had any really good developers bristle at objective standards.

One thing that we have is whoever breaks the build, owns the build. This is a long-held tradition. If you check-in code that breaks the build, you have to babysit the build process until someone else breaks it. I've only had to take it over and force-assign that process twice in 10 years, and both times was because a SJW didn't think it "was fair" that ze had to own the build process for making "a small mistake".

I used to think that companies that used people like this would eventually fail. But the sad part is though while some do, many are large enough that they can impose a tax on the productive economy and still continue. Barclay is so huge that they'll not ever fail or be allowed to fail, no matter how poorly they are run or staffed. So in a way the entryism is to be expected. These are the new no-show union jobs for the 21st century.

Anonymous Crude May 12, 2015 10:51 AM  

The problem is simple, they won't leave us alone. The progressive cult just won't tolerate independent thought.

I think anyone in the game of predicting the future is generally in for a surprise. I think SJWs are the epitome of "first world problems", the sort of things that people only take seriously when they have too much time, comfort and money on their hands, which mixes in with the talk of parasite classes. So to me, the most important question is "Will the days of everyone being fat and happy continue indefinitely?"

You don't need millenials to change their minds about gay marriage, etc, overnight. All you need is for another issue to displace it in terms of importance.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 12, 2015 10:53 AM  

I do not believe they will succeed because most software developers tend to judge people based on their merit rather than their racial or gender identity.

I'm sure Brandon Eich believed that, too.

Blogger Nabu the Scribe May 12, 2015 10:53 AM  

Really hard to take seriously the literacy of anyone who would publish a sentence Like "We are tasked with building prototypes which are not business critical so we have a lot of space to move around with then other areas of the company which require levels of experience & current ability which traditionally bias against minorities facing oppression."

Anonymous Crispy May 12, 2015 10:53 AM  

"What could the SJWs do that would provoke the same kind of backlash that hit the Nazis in 1945?" The Nazis had the 1000-year Reich. The SJW's have the Great Society. The fifty-year Reich is imploding around us.

Blogger El Borak May 12, 2015 10:54 AM  

How about destroying the human race by making it impossible to have a reproduction rate that would sustain the population? When that connection becomes clear, the backlash will start.

There was a backlash against the Nazis because they lost the war, which made it possible to expose and oppose their horrors. OTOH, there is no clear connection between SJWs and population demographics (are Japan and Iran filled with SJWs? Was the Soviet Union?), Bad demographics are just people not having kids, which is done for enough other reasons that you can't blame Anita Sarkeesian or freeloading software people for any national case.

Anonymous Crude May 12, 2015 10:57 AM  

El Borak,

OTOH, there is no clear connection between SJWs and population demographics (are Japan and Iran filled with SJWs? Was the Soviet Union?)

I notice that Putin expressly connected gay marriage with demographics problems as a reason why Russia wasn't running to celebrate the West's pet issue of the 21st century. Japan isn't either, though Japan is also a weird, outlier kind of place, moreso than most other nations.

That said, I think "backlash" is the wrong way to think about it. I think there will be a backlash against incessant hounding, but the real issue with things like gay marriage, etc, isn't backlash but 'different priorities'. Which, as near as I can tell, really does happen in places where the demographic issues are more dire.

Blogger dc.sunsets May 12, 2015 10:59 AM  

How astonishingly wealthy and prosperous must we be, to devote such vast energy to things having nothing to do with production.

Given that the Greatest Asset Mania Ever is build by Debt Bricks whose purpose is to provide a hologram of virtual prosperity even as the capital formation underpinning real prosperity erodes to dust, we must assume that when the facade eventually falls and the skeletal remains of our productive economy are revealed, tolerance for the non-productive will turn to contempt, then rage, then murder.

When war comes, the first order of business is frag anyone who's not pulling their weight in the foxhole.

Blogger El Borak May 12, 2015 11:05 AM  

That said, I think "backlash" is the wrong way to think about it.

I think so as well. SJWism, like feminism and a whole host of other anti-human philosophies, are what arise when you have a class of people who don't have to work to survive. They are control-freaks and busybodies who truly have nothing better to do than to try to run others' lives, usually as a compensatory strategy for their inability to run their own. Nothing would end SJWism faster than a well-placed solar flare. It would not be a backlash against SJWs per se, just a re-prioritization on survival. There's a reason there's no feminism* in Kunstler's World Made by Hand novels: when times are genuinely tough, ain't nobody got time for that.

* much to the chagrin of his feminist readers.

Blogger Harry Bergeron May 12, 2015 11:12 AM  

No, not a mega-backlash, just a slow deflating Fail.

"Not with a bang, but a whimper."

Blogger JartStar May 12, 2015 11:13 AM  

Economic stress will cause most everyone to ignore the SJWs. They won't go away, just be ignored and become non-profitable. The position is profitable right now for many of them and as others have pointed out due to the relative peace and prosperity of the West.

Anonymous MPC May 12, 2015 11:16 AM  

You can instantly diversify your company by saying all male staff members identify as trans-racial female lesbians.

If somebody gets uppity and says "Yeah well then why don't they chop off their penises if they're actually women," tell them that those are feminine penises* and that further threatening language will be regarded as hate speech.

*Yes, that is actually a thing in gender studies.

Anonymous Will Best May 12, 2015 11:18 AM  

If you aren't
a) making something to sell
b) selling that something
c) managing and hiring the people doing a & b, or
d) doing the busy work and otherwise assisting a,b, and c perform their core function

you are harmful to your company's success and to the extent you are still employed it is in spite of the work you do.

Blogger Douglas Wardell May 12, 2015 11:18 AM  

Harsh May 12, 2015 8:32 AM

But if I identify as Klingon, they call me crazy.


I sexually identify as a Minion of the Evil Legion of Evil. Ever since I was a boy, I dreamed of feasting on the bones of SJWs as their internal juices drip down my scaly exterior. People say to me that a person being an evil minion is psychotic and I'm fucking retarded, but I don't care. I'm beautiful. I'm having a plastic surgeon add shark teeth, lizard scales and nine-inch-nails to my body. From now on, I want you guys to call me "#0101" and respect my right to follow orders from my Supreme Dark Lord and kill as he commands. If you can't accept me, you're a minionophobe and need to check your progressive privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.

Blogger Joshua Dyal May 12, 2015 11:22 AM  

Alas, it will always be a word like Communism -- something that's great in theory, and any problems it has in practice are attributable to wreckers, saboteurs, enemies of the people, and the fact that It Has Never Really Been Tried.

Doesn't matter. That's one clear big picture takeaway from the long arc of leftism over time is that the specific label that they've given it du jour always fails, and then it falls out of favor. But it isn't replaced with something fundamentally different; a few superficial details are changed, a brand new label is applied, and then it rises again like another head but still from the same Hydra.

And then when it's been long enough, the old labels can come around again. I mean, after Woodrow Wilson's failed presidency, nobody in their right mind during the 20s would have thought that Progressivism as a label would have had any currency in the future, and yet here we are. Fascism is probably lost to the left because of the concerted effort of their propaganda to dishonestly paint it as a right-wing ideology, but the same propaganda machine has been trying to rehabilitate communism ever since Joe McCarthy made it a dirty word 60 some odd years ago.

Anonymous Porky May 12, 2015 11:24 AM  

Economic stress will cause most everyone to ignore the SJWs.

Maybe in an ascending civilization.

In a declining civilization like ours, economic stress will cause most everyone to BEG for SJW's.

Blogger tridekka May 12, 2015 11:32 AM  

Regarding the original email, the devs here seem to have their sanity, which is rare for a
reddit thread.

Blogger D. Lane May 12, 2015 11:34 AM  

If somebody gets uppity and says "Yeah well then why don't they chop off their penises if they're actually women," tell them that those are feminine penises* and that further threatening language will be regarded as hate speech.

Transphobic racists demand employees of [company] mutilate their genitals or face boycott. Developing...

Extremests protest: "Lose your junk or lose your job!"

BREAKING: Man identifies as protestor's wife, does her in middle of crowd to promote LGBT sexuality in corporate America -- police refuse to intervene for fear of backlash


I'd pay money to see that circus.

Blogger Nate May 12, 2015 11:34 AM  

"In a declining civilization like ours, economic stress will cause most everyone to BEG for SJW's."

wrong. in a declining situation... the civility is lessening... and thus... its more likely that the SJWs will be eaten... literally... than sought after.

Remember we're talking about a situation where resources are reduced... and SJWs produce nothing.

Blogger tridekka May 12, 2015 11:35 AM  

Also, this sounds like a great opportunity to get a free job at Barclay's with zero responsibility, provided you don't mind lying about yourself and acting a touch fruity to convince the hiring manager you'll help diversify the place.

Blogger VD May 12, 2015 11:44 AM  

If you can't accept me, you're a minionophobe and need to check your progressive privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.

So brave. Thank you for this.

Blogger Nate May 12, 2015 11:44 AM  

"The first bellwether happening now is gay marriage, in which the only group which is against it now are white Protestants."

the fact that you can write this indicates to me you haven't actually read that much on it... or you've been reading in very bad places.

As for the empire recovering.... who said anything about that? The backlash won't be in the form of a recovery.

It will be simple socio economics. You're looking at boom time socio economics and basing predictions on it like it will never end.

We have a lot of data on boom time econ vs Bad Times econ. Now... note that popularly... gay marriage was actually doing better in referendums in the mid 2000s than now. Why? Boom economy (based on borrowing for sure) vs Bad Economy.

The economy isn't going to recover. the US is going down the shitter and the odds are it will happen far faster than people think possible. And when it does... useless shits like SJWs who produce nothing and destroy everything... are going to be fed to the dogs.

Gay marriage... as a popular vote... has failed everywhere its been voted on. It even lost by a huge majority in California of all places. In alabama it was shot down by over 80% of the vote.

Think white protestants make up 80 of the voters in Alabama?

Anonymous Steveo May 12, 2015 11:46 AM  

These are people out to effectively destroy your business. Their interests are not your business interests. They are parasitic trash that take over your business as a host in order to live, promote a leftist-totalitarian agenda & reproduce until the host dies.

Go through everyone & ask - what exactly, would you say, ya do here?

Blogger Danby May 12, 2015 11:53 AM  

...if the diversity hires can't do their job, they won't be sought after for work."

Counter point, Ursula Burns

Ask Barclay's management to describe their experiences with diversity and the ROI in concrete terms.

Look up Anthony Watson

Anonymous Crude May 12, 2015 11:56 AM  

In a declining civilization like ours, economic stress will cause most everyone to BEG for SJW's.

I'll hazard a guess here, which may well be wrong: you're banking on the idea that 'less money/jobs/etc to go around' will mean 'people turn to whoever claims they will privilege them above others and guarantee them money, power or status, and SJWs love to do this'.

If that's your view, there's a few problems. First, one things get lean, SJWs tend not to be the only ones offering promises like that - and they can't offer them to the usual groups associated with SJWs. Try having the government telling people in Greece - even with the avowedly radical leftist government - that they're going to prioritize the hiring of ethnic minorities (particularly recent immigrants) and transgendered african lesbians in order to increase diversity in the Greek workforce. Try having a private business' HR department implement such a policy, or even be suspected of implementing such a policy, in their current economic climate. It's going to go over far differently than it would in a better economic climate.

In fact, it's not going to go over at all, because it's unlikely anyone will try it. The current situation will force their hands, and they'll have to count themselves lucky to manage anything but symbolic gestures on that front.

Declining economic situations cause people to beg for whoever can provide for them, period. That's not 'SJWs'.

Blogger Steve May 12, 2015 11:58 AM  

Already told you in the other thread. We know. Why are you pretending you invented hot water here?

Shanley Kane complained about "master/slave" terminology on github 2 years ago.

Anonymous Too-Soon-ami May 12, 2015 12:00 PM  

Nate: "In alabama it was shot down by over 80% of the vote. Think white protestants make up 80 of the voters in Alabama?"

No, but the blacks all voted that way cause they's a-feared of de white man.

Anonymous BigGaySteve May 12, 2015 12:01 PM  

"But if I identify as Klingon, they call me crazy." " we always ask for their preferred pronoun, even" BiVectron
https://www.billwhittle.com/singularity/mitchell-and-webb-monday-vectron

get BigGaySteve to go to work for Out and start hiring straight people.many more adverts in spaces that would reach to minorities

There are always people at gay pride events handing out stuff for job seekers, Literally asking people if they need a job & handing out cards. I always figured if they are willing to take anyone without talking to them it would be a low paying Soros cheerleading job. I guess I will have to pick up some of the cards and post info on them.


"In other industries that would be digging holes then filling them back in. "-- Now its playing World of Warcraft at Work.

"What could the SJWs do that would provoke the same kind of backlash that hit the Nazis in 1945?"

George Soros destroyed the British Pound as world reserve currency after taking away their guns, if the dollar loses its reserve status the entire world might end up like the new MAD TaMpAX movie.

Your best bet is to nail them on their consistent refusal to abide by company guidelines, ... follow clear directions

Its almost impossible to fire blacks who clearly screwed up costing a patients life. I have even seen a black secretary use a policy piece of paper to argue with doctors & nurses that didn't even know what the words and medical abbreviations on the paper meant.

and acting a touch fruity to convince the hiring manager you'll help diversify the place You could always tell people you are str8 acting in a monogamist relationship.

Anonymous Porky May 12, 2015 12:01 PM  

in a declining situation... the civility is lessening... and thus... its more likely that the SJWs will be eaten... literally... than sought after.

Remember we're talking about a situation where resources are reduced... and SJWs produce nothing.


You are too small minded to get this.

You imagine that SJW = random anti-gamergate feminists, diversity activists, and pudgy science fiction gatekeepers.

In reality, however, SJW's are the Tides Foundation, the SEIU, The IMF, the UN, Governments the world over, and a global cabal of wealthy bankers along with a million activist organizations that do their bidding. These are the ones who control resource redistribution.

And no, when times get tough and resources become scarce, nobody is going to eat George Soros. They are going to applaud him, worship him, and beg him and all SJW's who have plundered the wealth of the planet to come to their rescue.

Blogger JartStar May 12, 2015 12:07 PM  

Nate, that's the same stuff I've heard about the popular vote for decades, yet here we are on the verge of it being legalized across all 50 states. Abortion would be outlawed if a popular vote counted for anything, yet the unborn continue to be slaughtered. I can't believe you are appealing to that old canard as who shows up to vote is a subset.

Take a look: Changing Attitudes on Gay Marriage | Pew Research Center's Religion & Public Life Project

Anonymous David-093 May 12, 2015 12:09 PM  

"Gay marriage... as a popular vote... has failed everywhere its been voted on. It even lost by a huge majority in California of all places. In alabama it was shot down by over 80% of the vote."

Yeah here in NC Amendment 1 was passed with 61% of the vote, banning gay marriage. Even with the retarded college and northern transplant population it still was a landslide. Gay marriage is a political loser and it'll continue as the crisis gets worse.

Anonymous Crude May 12, 2015 12:10 PM  

Porky,

You are too small minded to get this.

You imagine that SJW = random anti-gamergate feminists, diversity activists, and pudgy science fiction gatekeepers.

In reality, however, SJW's are the Tides Foundation, the SEIU, The IMF, the UN, Governments the world over, and a global cabal of wealthy bankers along with a million activist organizations that do their bidding. These are the ones who control resource redistribution.


No, they're not. They're political leftists, they have these or those political leanings - but you're not even talking about the same group once you expand the definition that broadly.

And if you want to expand it that broadly, you may as well speculate that SJWs are going to descend into nasty infighting the moment times get lean. Just point at Greece and say, "Greek Government, SJW. EU, SJW. See? The SJWs are in control." But the SJWs on that definition are now fighting each other in lean times, so the same result obtains.

Blogger Chris Ritchie May 12, 2015 12:11 PM  

"5 of us are PoC."

Portable Oxygen Concentrator
Philippine Olympic Committee
Paid Outside Closing
Point of Contention
Per our Conversation
Percentage of Completion method
Point of Contact
Production Office Coordinator
Products of Conception
Proof of Concept
Prisoner of Conscience
Pack of Cigarettes
Piece of Crap

Finally it dawned on me: “People of Color”

Anonymous BigGaySteve May 12, 2015 12:13 PM  

Gay marriage... as a popular vote... has failed everywhere its been voted on. It even lost by a huge majority in California of all places. In alabama it was shot down by over 80% of the vote.

Well the reason blacks vote against gay marriage is that no one wants to see a family with 2 deadbeat dads. The reason for open borders it to have lots of low IQ savages voting for more free stuff, but unless equality was reality civilization will fall.

SJW = random anti-gamergate feminists, diversity activists, and pudgy science fiction gatekeepers.

They are the tools & useful idiots for the banking tribe.

nobody is going to eat George Soros. ~ If Soros didn't take away the UK's guns before he murdered the British pound how many jews would be in the UK today?

Gay marriage is a political loser and it'll continue as the crisis gets worse. Tie gay marriage to concealed carry permits being universally recognized from one state to all 50 & leftists will drop it. Maybe have some outreach about possible gay alimony.

Anonymous David-093 May 12, 2015 12:15 PM  

"Nate, that's the same stuff I've heard about the popular vote for decades, yet here we are on the verge of it being legalized across all 50 states."

Jart, you're missing the point. It keeps being legalized because judges keep overturning the majority's votes, even when they write the damn laws into their constitutions! People have noticed, and they're extremely pissed. Americans are overwhelming against gay marriage, but the will of the people is being ignored. That will not be forgotten. Wait until things get a bit more chaotic and you'll see how reasonable people remain when law and order becomes law of the jungle.

America's unique in many ways, but we're no less suspectible to human nature, the rhythms of history, or conflict than other nations.

Anonymous Jack Amok May 12, 2015 12:15 PM  

levels of experience & current ability which traditionally bias against minorities facing oppression.

Oh, the oppression of being incompetent at your job. Well, I imagine it is a form of oppression, luring people into careers they're not good at. Whether you want to call it a backlash or not, there will eventually be an end, and what is some 40 year old minority diversity hire going to do when he's spent the last twenty years pretending to be a programmer instead of learning to be something he was actually competent at?

The problem is simple, they won't leave us alone. The progressive cult just won't tolerate independent thought.

The second problem is that given a chance at all, we will stop supporting their parasite classes. SJWs can't survive this and somewhere inside their leadership know it.


Those two problems are connected. They won't leave us alone because they can't survive without us. The "backlash" comes when we reach the conclusion we can't survive their parasitism any longer.

Anonymous Jack Amok May 12, 2015 12:22 PM  

Shanley Kane complained about "master/slave" terminology on github 2 years ago.

What does Shanley Kane have against BDSM? We don't have to tolerate shaming like that.

Blogger Corvinus May 12, 2015 12:24 PM  

Nate,

I've actually read a tremendous amount and looked at the future demographic projections of the US, and taken into account the current polling data on social issues and there won't be a backlash.


@JartStar
The Serbs were 38% of the population when they set Yugoslavia on fire.

Just saying...

Anonymous Porky May 12, 2015 12:28 PM  

No, they're not. They're political leftists, they have these or those political leanings - but you're not even talking about the same group once you expand the definition that broadly.

Wrong. SJW's are activists for wealth redistribution and equality. This is true whether they are leftist politicians, greedy banksters, or catholic popes and bishops.

you may as well speculate that SJWs are going to descend into nasty infighting the moment times get lean

SJW's eat each other in lean times and fat. This is nothing new.

You might as well tell us that SJW's will become duplicitous and disingenuous when times get tough.

Blogger JartStar May 12, 2015 12:29 PM  

David-093,

I understand the premise, that eventually there will be a straw that breaks the camels back by "activist judges". My point is that this anger most certainly does not mean that there will be a backlash, as there have been plenty of angry populations which have simply diminished into the long night of history. Maybe there will be some Event which propels the majority of the population into desiring of some sort of conservative backlash and taking things over politically, but I certainly don't see it in any current trend. Since I don't know the future I could be very wrong about all of this, but the evidence points in the other direction.

I fully expect there to be an increase in violence and conflict on American soil, but this does not equal a conservative battle for supremacy but rather various groups of all stripes fighting over resources and control.

Blogger Jeff Hendricks May 12, 2015 12:41 PM  

"This has been driven by the huge lack of diversity within the existing tech teams."

That fact that they think this is a core problem explains everything. Forget producing quality code, forget skills, forget experience. What programmers need is *diversity*.

"...other areas of the company which *require* levels of experience & current ability..."

I rest my case.

Blogger JartStar May 12, 2015 1:06 PM  

One the plus side, due to vigilance and hard work conservatives have kept their guns, and will keep them. The populace is too well armed now to disarm.

Also, the abortion debate has been won philosophically by the conservatives as well. There is a social stigma against abortion even as it remains legal.

Anonymous Crude May 12, 2015 1:15 PM  

Porky,

Wrong. SJW's are activists for wealth redistribution and equality.

Incorrect. They have no interest in equality, and their wealth redistribution aims are pretty tightly focused. You can count Pat Buchanan as a SJW if you tinker with the definitions to the extent you are - why, he's a protectionist, after all. He wants to redistribute the wealth too. But at that point, no one's going to care about your SJW talk. In fact, you'd be easy to classify as an SJW under those terms as well.

SJW's eat each other in lean times and fat. This is nothing new.

It intensifies when times get lean. Those same times happen to be when other people start thinking about 'wealth redistribution' in the broad sense.

You might as well tell us that SJW's will become duplicitous and disingenuous when times get tough.

Yes, I will say that when times get tough, SJW alliances more readily break up, they start backstabbing allies faster and more grievously, and even the 'Social Justice' dream and rhetoric can and likely will change to become far more fractured and focused.

But really, what was your point here? "You guys are wrong, lean times make SJWs more powerful! Also you guys define SJWs totally differently than I do, which is: "Anyone who favors some form of wealth redistribution and who calls it fair."" Okay, that's nice I guess.

Blogger Student in Blue (#21) May 12, 2015 1:30 PM  

@Porky

Also, remember the fact that most leftists in high places only use "diversity" as a political shield. They champion it because it's politically expedient and gives them power, not because they're diehard believers.

If it stops becoming politically expedient when times get hard, do you really think that these lifelong politicians will cling to a sinking ship?

Anonymous patrick kelly May 12, 2015 1:36 PM  

Backlash doesn't require a majority, it only needs a very capable and motivated minority. It helps if they are also ruthless and shameless.

Anonymous dh May 12, 2015 1:43 PM  

Counter point, Ursula Burns

Wait, I can't tell from the discussion, no one is holding up Ursula Burns as a positive example, right?

Blogger automatthew 0062 May 12, 2015 1:46 PM  

Porky, you are not Humpty Dumpty. You do not get to define words to mean whatever suits your fantasies. You can be counted on to try that on a regular basis, sure. But it wins you no arguments.

Blogger pdwalker May 12, 2015 1:53 PM  

Wow.

I'm going to go really far out on a limb and predict that this team will produce nothing useful. Not because they are too stupid to figure out "what their pronoun is" (50-50 chance kids, take a stab at it), but because they are not hiring based on merit.

I'd hire a guy who wore pink tutus to work, if he could deliver, deliver being the key thing.

Amazing, big companies can afford inefficiencies.

Blogger Danby May 12, 2015 2:00 PM  

@dh,
As a counter point to the idea that diversity hires will fail and be removed.

Ursula is manifestly incompetent, has presided over the destruction of literally billions in shareholder value and is not even rumored to be in trouble.

Carly Fiorina, as another example, was indeed finally removed from HP for driving the company on ground intercept at Mach 4. She is nowadays running for president based on her business acumen. There is a non-zero possibility that she will be nominated by the GOP. This after a failed Senate bid.

A woman can get away with being 77% as competent as a man. A Black can get away with being 50% as competent as a White, and a gay is not generally required to work at all.

Blogger VFM 188 May 12, 2015 2:10 PM  

Tank said: Just kill me now. Mental illness is normal. This kind of thing makes me glad I'm old and may not live to see the endgame of this lunacy.

Look at it another way, good buddy. I'm an oldster too. It means you and I have a really good seat in the gallery to watch the endgame unfold. Think about it: We've seen the U.S. at its zenith, and been watching it all the way to now, where the disintegration is accelerating. It's fascinating! I want to stay alive just to see what happens as our society, culture, and civilization collapse.

I mean, not much fun for most people, but still fascinating....

Anonymous dh May 12, 2015 2:31 PM  

Danby--

Yes, this exactly what I meant before when I said that too big too fail is an enemy of the productive class. It's bad because it allows cancerous organizations - Xerox and HP are both great examples - live on, when by all rights, they should fail. Xerox is a great example, Burns came up through engineering, and there are a lot of people inside Xerox who say she never had the chops for it, and was consistently promoted as a way to get rid of her.

HP and Xerox are both interesting cases because their CEO SJW both tried to fix problems by acquiring other companies. HP bought Compaq and EDS, as too good examples. Xerox bough Affiliated Services. These deals were vastly overpriced and have been shown to have been disasters.

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Blogger Nate May 12, 2015 2:40 PM  

" I can't believe you are appealing to that old canard as who shows up to vote is a subset. "

mate... who shows up to vote is who matters.

Blogger Danby May 12, 2015 2:41 PM  

ACS is a good case in point. bought by Xerox 4 years ago for $6.4 billion, unloaded to ATOS this year at $1 billion.

"sure we lost $5,000,000,000, but we have a black woman as CEO! Aren't we wonderful?

Anonymous dh May 12, 2015 2:58 PM  

As a shareholder in ACS, I was fine with it. The final purchase was around $60/share, when the stock was only in the $40's just before. I think it was cash and Xerox stock. Liquidated both as soon I could.

Blogger kh123 May 12, 2015 3:00 PM  

"In reality, however, SJW's are the Tides Foundation, the SEIU, The IMF, the UN, Governments the world over, and a global cabal of wealthy bankers along with a million activist organizations that do their bidding."

Nazis appealed to the Catholic Central Party before becoming the majority themselves. Handshaking with Hindenburg. Dissolution of the Reichstag - with the Reichstag's apparent approval. Night of the Long Knives. German/Soviet Non Aggression Pact. Gott Mit Uns.

You see where this is going.

Anonymous BGS May 12, 2015 3:03 PM  

A Black can get away with being 50% as competent as a White, and a gay is not generally required to work at all.

What do these not work at all jobs pay? Any I wouldn't have to show up for. Usually guys under 20 get those kind of jobs.

There is a social stigma against abortion even as it remains legal.

Just so you know when a woman gets an abortion the note from her doctor for time off says she had a miscarriage.

Blogger Nate May 12, 2015 3:06 PM  

the fact is saying "yeah I am in favor of gay marriage" is very much different than showing up at the polls to vote for it.

You think your voice should be heard... but you don't care enough to actually vote?

And guess what? some day you'll get older... and you will care enough to vote... but by then you will have grown up.. and you will have changed your mind about a lot of this stupid shit.

Anonymous Curious but not an SJW May 12, 2015 3:17 PM  

Ursula is manifestly incompetent, has presided over the destruction of literally billions in shareholder value and is not even rumored to be in trouble.

Who? Also you forgot about Meg.

Blogger Danby May 12, 2015 3:23 PM  

@BGS
Pay is usually better than mine. Every job I've had in a 40-year career working for a gay or lesbian supervisor or executive, it's been me or some other straight male doing their work. All of their work. To the point of writing work evaluations of my co-workers.
the old adage is "it's not what you know, it's who you blow", and it's largely true for gays in the corporate world. In one place I worked, my supervisor was hired straight out of the school on the Indian reservation, where she was teaching reading to 10-year-old illiterates.
Without a doubt, a very useful and necessary job, at which she had to work quite hard. And about 6 months after moving in with the HR director at the company, she was hired as a group manager for a software development and support team. What were her qualifications? Her experience? Her aptitude? None that didn't involve munching carpet. and I did her job. Every bit of it. She wasn't even skilled enough to write a business letter.
Then again, that 20% pay increase at evaluation time was sweet.

Blogger Danby May 12, 2015 3:25 PM  

Meg has not been demonstrably worse than most male CEOs, and considerably better than Apotheker and whatever-his-name-was after Carly.

Blogger Danby May 12, 2015 3:31 PM  

@BGS, I will allow that there is a serious difference between gays and lesbians. Gays below the management level do their jobs but way too often use emotional manipulation and exploit closet cases to get advancement. Lesbians usually are not competent, and even where competent are usually emotional basket cases, turning a workplace into hideous drama fests.

Anonymous Porky May 12, 2015 3:34 PM  

Incorrect. They have no interest in equality

They sure spend a lot of time and money promoting and implementing something they have no interest in.

and their wealth redistribution aims are pretty tightly focused.

Ok. Still fits the definition.

You can count Pat Buchanan as a SJW if you tinker with the definitions to the extent you are - why, he's a protectionist, after all. He wants to redistribute the wealth too.

Do you need me to elucidate the difference between protectionism and wealth redistribution?

It intensifies when times get lean.

And when that happens the big fish eat the little fish. This whole idea of a "backlash" is preposterous. The problem is that you and Nate see them as rabbits and yourselves as wolves, so you think a wolf-like backlash is inevitable.

The truth, however, is that they are the farmers and you are the hogs. And when the trough runs dry, the hogs don't eat the farmer. They wallow and beg for more. They become more docile - as long as they stay in the pen.

Look, this isn't speculation on my part. It is actually happening right now. If you open your eyes you can see it everywhere.

Anonymous Porky May 12, 2015 3:37 PM  

Porky, you are not Humpty Dumpty. You do not get to define words to mean whatever suits your fantasies.

Feel free to offer a better one then. Or keep sniping. I don't really care.

Anonymous Porky May 12, 2015 3:48 PM  

But really, what was your point here? "You guys are wrong, lean times make SJWs more powerful!

Not all SJW's are dirt-poor community organizers. Some of them eat fetuses wrapped in gold foil off of the bellies of slave girls on their 50 million dollar yachts.

And yes, when it all collapses - they will be just fine because they have already set up the neo-feudal infrastructure.

You really think they are smart enough to plunder trillions of dollars but too stupid to plan for the "backlash" contingency? As we speak they are running military exercises for just that contingency in the SW.



Anonymous Curious but not an SJW May 12, 2015 3:49 PM  

Meg has not been demonstrably worse than most male CEOs, and considerably better than Apotheker and whatever-his-name-was after Carly.

I believe you. Others don't.

Anonymous Anonymous May 12, 2015 3:55 PM  

Vienna brings in gay pedestrian crossing lights

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32711676

Anonymous Geoff May 12, 2015 4:00 PM  

Tweell, same here but google tells me you can convert kindle to epub format.

Anonymous BGS May 12, 2015 4:06 PM  

Gays below the management level do their jobs but way too often use emotional manipulation and exploit closet cases to get advancement. Lesbians usually are not competent

Maybe I shouldn't have gone into healthcare, I could have gotten a job playing World of Warcraft at work like my one ex. Too many of the guys in nursing are gay for all of them to slack off. Gays in healthcare have to do at least as much work as women. I agree about the lesbian incompetent part.

You really think they are smart enough to plunder trillions of dollars but too stupid to plan for the "backlash" contingency?

We know they would love to do another Holodomor, but they have lost control of the narrative before they could take away guns.

Idaho shotgun gay weddings with shotgun pointed at clergy.http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/

Blogger Corvinus May 12, 2015 4:07 PM  

The problem is that you and Nate see them as rabbits and yourselves as wolves, so you think a wolf-like backlash is inevitable.

We have already demonstrated that thou aren't a wolf, so thou wouldst naturally enough not understand.

The truth, however, is that they are the farmers and you are the hogs. And when the trough runs dry, the hogs don't eat the farmer. They wallow and beg for more. They become more docile - as long as they stay in the pen.

Look, this isn't speculation on my part. It is actually happening right now. If you open your eyes you can see it everywhere.


If thou are speaking about the lumpensheeple, thou art correct. But thou makest the mistake of confusing wolves for lumpensheeple.

"History is littered with wars which everybody knew would never happen." --Enoch Powell

Anonymous Crude May 12, 2015 4:59 PM  

They sure spend a lot of time and money promoting and implementing something they have no interest in.

Is the concept of 'image' and 'buzzword' new to you? Do you also believe that the main goal of the McDonald's corporation is to make sure you have a great and healthy day?

Do you need me to elucidate the difference between protectionism and wealth redistribution?

Do so in a way that makes it so I can't cash out protectionism as wealth redistribution, yep. Are you aware that there are plenty of critics of protectionism who regard it as just another form of that?

And when that happens the big fish eat the little fish. This whole idea of a "backlash" is preposterous. The problem is that you and Nate see them as rabbits and yourselves as wolves, so you think a wolf-like backlash is inevitable.

I think the real problem is that you just make things up based on what you hope people are saying, and you get confused and defensive very easily. I haven't said anything about the inevitability of a 'backlash' - in fact, I said backlash was the wrong way to think about it and expressed skepticism of that idea. I think what's far more likely is that people's priorities will shift. The only time 'backlash' comes is when people are hounded far too much in an overt way.

Really, the obsessive worry over whether two guys (one in a wedding dress) is treated as a big issue you guys will likely go out the window if major economic issues come to the fore.

The truth, however, is that they are the farmers and you are the hogs.

You don't seem to have a very good grip on 'conversations, happening in front of your face'. Your grasp on truth isn't all that encouraging either.

Look, this isn't speculation on my part. It is actually happening right now.

Actually, yeah - since we are talking about the future, it's by definition speculation on your part. Do you not realize that?

Look, I appreciate you see your schtick as the resident guy screaming "Wake up, Sheeple!' but really, you come off as a pig rolling in his own shit and trying to convince everyone it's gold. Seriously, you believe they honestly, truly care about 'equality' - because look at how much they talk about it! - and you're telling everyone else "Open your eyes!"?

Try paying attention more. It may help you put together some better arguments.

Blogger JDC May 12, 2015 5:00 PM  

The goal of the SJW is three-pronged. A) Tolerance, B) Full Equality and C) Supremacy. Tolerance quickly becomes 'intolerance' towards dissenting beliefs (including private beliefs). Equality evolves into special treatment, and supremacy...well, that's self-evident. Their greatest weapon is their absolute resolve in seizing control of the meaning of words and accepting nothing but absolute submission to their new definitions. What the f*** does gender mean anymore?

Blogger SRBEL May 12, 2015 5:01 PM  

I grew up in the snow, where we would go weeks without electricity, clear roads, mail... not many feminists, otherkin, fags etc when that's going down. Not a climate that promotes much diversity.

Nowadays I work for a multimillion dollar company, and out of ~150 staff we have one half Japanese guy, a Korean and the cleaners are all Asian too. Everyone else is white. Mostly they're all from the region, but we have Kiwis, Canadians, a Yank, a couple of Poms and a handful of assorted Euros.

The hiring policy gives preference to "locals" who understand the local culture. "Locals" being a great substitute for White. We also demand impeccable communication skills, which weeds out the "diversity".

Demanding that employees be on call during weekends makes it hard for SJW types to commit also - they like to spend their time protesting CSG mining or tripping tits on acid.

Rigid rules regarding personal presentation / hygiene tends to weed out some of the diversity too.

Last year I dated a Japanese girl for a few months, and her first comment after visiting my workplace: "Everyone is white!!"

And I replied "And when you go back to Japan and get a job, everyone there will be Japanese, right?" Now she was pretty PC when I met her (except when it came to blacks and Arabs) but by the time she went home she was a good little Red Pill Girl.

Blogger Tommy Hass May 12, 2015 5:50 PM  

"you haven't read very much history if you really believe that."

MUH MUH HISTORY

Newsflash: technology matters as do genetics.

Blogger Tommy Hass May 12, 2015 5:57 PM  

Current white men are far more pacified than whites back in the day. It doesn't guarantee that nothing will happen, but it sure eans that you cannot treat modern man the same way you would treat men of history.

Then there is the fact that technology is a ginormous gamechanger. TV, internet, nuclear weapons, urbanization etc.

In the past, the poor starved. Now they are fat fucks dying of diabetes. The pill has arrived. Man has escaped the Malthusian trap.

I also lol at the sneering "THIS TIME IT'S GONNA BE DIFFERENT" argument. It is your kind that believs it's going to be different not your detractors. When the Germans organized the European Baking championships, it was an unprecedented event, certainly in Germany/central Europe, in this magnitude. When was the last time before that when millions of Jews were gassed/killed?

You guys are the ones predicting that history will end up in a completely novel way, not your skeptics.

Anonymous Porky May 12, 2015 5:58 PM  

Is the concept of 'image' and 'buzzword' new to you? Do you also believe that the main goal of the McDonald's corporation is to make sure you have a great and healthy day?

So SJW's are only SJW's if they are True Believer® SJW's?

Well you always did have a thing for trying to guess what's in people's minds.

I haven't said anything about the inevitability of a 'backlash' - in fact, I said backlash was the wrong way to think about it and expressed skepticism of that idea.

My mistake.

Actually, yeah - since we are talking about the future, it's by definition speculation on your part. Do you not realize that?

I think the collapse is already underway. Maybe you don't. I see pigs begging for more slop, not growing tusks and leaving the farm.

Seriously, you believe they honestly, truly care about 'equality' - because look at how much they talk about it!

I don't know how much they care. I don't care how much they care.

I look at actions and try to read the tea leaves with an eye on history.

I get your point. But the farmers will simply not allow things to get to that point. A global welfare state aka neofeudal paradise is what we are headed for.

Blogger Crude May 12, 2015 5:59 PM  

The goal of the SJW is three-pronged. A) Tolerance, B) Full Equality and C) Supremacy. Tolerance quickly becomes 'intolerance' towards dissenting beliefs (including private beliefs). Equality evolves into special treatment, and supremacy...well, that's self-evident.

B and C are the parts they fuck up, since all the equality in the world isn't going to turn the black sections of Baltimore into the next Silicon Valley, which rules C out as well. For that, they need to address culture at the very least, genetics at the very most - and they can't address either, since that would involve turning in on themselves.

Blogger Tommy Hass May 12, 2015 6:00 PM  

"Human nature hasn't changed"

1. Debatable.

2. Even if it hasn't , you're still not right. Human nature isn't the only variable here.

Blogger Crude May 12, 2015 6:08 PM  

So SJW's are only SJW's if they are True Believer® SJW's?

No, the opposite - the SJW schtick about 'equality' is fucking fake. Always has been, always will be. The only people who go all-in on that are the slow ones. You think Soros really believes that Michael Brown was a gentle giant, innocent of crime, gunned down in his prime by a racist hate-cop? Really?

I think the collapse is already underway. Maybe you don't. I see pigs begging for more slop, not growing tusks and leaving the farm.

No shit. Again, I'm not sitting here prophecizing the great uprising. In fact, I'm not prophecizing any great event at all, because I think there are too many complicating factors. About the only thing I've said is that when times get lean, priorities shift. I don't see that changing.

See, you make this crack about the farmers and the pigs, but here's a thought: those farmers have to do what's expected of them too. They can be, and often are, slaves to circumstance as much as anyone else. They also fuck up - history's filled with a whole lot of people too smart and too powerful to end up exactly they way they ended up.

I get your point. But the farmers will simply not allow things to get to that point. A global welfare state aka neofeudal paradise is what we are headed for.

Yeah, like I said - sometimes the farmer's don't have that much control either. Sometimes the farmer's backstab each other, sometimes a new farmer shows up on the scene. Here's one thing you should have learned with all your time reading tea leaves: it only helps so much.

Anonymous Anubis May 12, 2015 8:13 PM  

Tommy Hass do you think there was over 6million jews in Germany before WWII?

Anonymous DMM May 12, 2015 8:47 PM  

Is "Your Majesty" or "Potentate" a valid response to personal pronoun? Because I think that might be what I would choose

Anonymous rubberducky May 12, 2015 10:24 PM  

SJWs were penetrating and shaping the Fortune 500 long before they were called SJWs. What today is the gay marriage movement can trace its founding in the successful effort to get company benefits distributed to "domestic partners" in the same way that they were to legal spouses. The cultures of large corporations are often the first beachheads, especially media corporations. Big banks, whose cultures are all dominated by the urbane salons of Manhattan and London, are natural, fat, rich and powerful targets.

I think the reaction of the millennials will indeed be interesting and it won't go as expected, at least as expected by the SJWs. Already they've begun to openly puzzle over the behavior of young men and, being SJWs, of course attack them. Too addicted to gaming and pornography! Dr. Philip Zimbardo (of the Stanford prison experiment in psychology) has a new book on the topic that's climbing the charts and gotten them chattering anew about it.

But the plain fact of the matter is this brave new world being crafted by the SJWs is one that the boys, especially, hate. They're shortchanged not only socially and developmentally by the ponderous dominance of feminism in so much of their highly regulated upbringings, but they are also shortchanged economically in many ways. First by the enormous crushing debt burden that ever more socialism keeps piling on them and by the lost opportunity costs of that malinvestment, but secondly by the attitudes on display by these miscreants at Barclays. This incessant gale of diversity is a very costly headway against which they must continually row.

You can be sure that a lot of them see that, and also see that's it's a ton of bullshit they have to dance through. A couple of these types are my sons, and don't get them started on the SJWs and hipsters.

Anonymous Jack Amok May 12, 2015 11:32 PM  

Current white men are far more pacified than whites back in the day.

Tommy, white men have long time preferences. That means we don't fly into a rage when someone draws a cartoon we don't like. We keep relative control of our emotions and try to make sensible, responsible decisions. We tend not to riot and burn our own houses to the ground in a fit of anger. Instead, we try to keep things working as best we can, as long as we think that strategy might work and the huge investment we've made in society might be saved.

When we decide that's no longer possible, we go burn other people's houses down, kill the shit out of whoever we need to in order to fix things, and do it all with planning, organization, and deadly competence.

We're not all equally far-sighted. We don't all reach the conclusion things are unsalvageable at the same time. Some of us flip the bit sooner than others. But while those of us who've already flipped it are still relatively small in numbers, we're not going to go make a lot of unproductive trouble. We're going to prepare, and recruit, and plan. Certainly it pains us to see things degenerate farther, to see more people suffer unnecessarily, and to see the eventual rebuilding task grow bigger and more costly, but if we let that goad us into squandering ourselves in petty temper tantrums, we'd be just another run of the mill low-time-prefence bunch of idiots.

When enough of us reach the decision - and it is inevitable at this point - it'll be relatively quick, brutal, and decisive. Don't mistake patience for pacifism.

Anonymous George of the Jungle May 13, 2015 1:53 AM  

The pace of change may be accelerating: all jobs in the West will decline to being purely ceremonial in order to fulfill some kind of government mandated quota. Minorities and SJW's will comprise 99% of the work force. There will be almost no production of anything useful from such companies. Instead, 100% of all real R&D and downstream manufacturing will have been relocated to Asia. And what will be used to keep this circus going? Endless fiat money.

I think the last two great world wars must have drastically reduced k-related genes in the population, possibly never to return. Assuming no black swan event from nature, there will thus be no revolution... and in addition there will never be any Second Coming. In the depths of my depression, I am now convinced the future will be some kind of endless dystopia.

Blogger Tommy Hass May 13, 2015 6:11 AM  

"
When enough of us reach the decision - and it is inevitable at this point - it'll be relatively quick, brutal, and decisive. Don't mistake patience for pacifism."

Oh stop it already with the master race talk.

I mean this in a literal sense: whites have been bred to be peaceful, much like Golden Retrievers are ore peaceful than terriers.

The point isn't that this will never change. The point is that the "human nature" of current whites is different from the "human nature" of the whites that conquered South America. You are literally genetically different.

It may not make a difference, but one cannot discount that factor.

Blogger chris May 13, 2015 7:53 AM  

I will start with a disclosure: I don't code much. Cut my teeth on Portran: have geek cred, but most of that kind of work now is done for me in Revman or Stata.

But... what matters to me is the review of code and functionality. Hell, I used ReiserFS despite Hans Reiser being an asshat of the highest order (before it died after eh was given an orange jumpsuit for very good reasons). Disliked him. Product worked.

I like that Linus tells Debian SJW trolls to fack off. And calls code what it is. Because I don't want someone fiddling with things that are mission critical.

What Barclays is doing is putting the SJWs in a mushroom farm and letting them work on stuff that will never be deployed: while continuing to run 4GL on big iron because that does not go down and has been tested and audited.

The SJWs are window dressing. They are not the droids to worry about. And the geeks who are needed are tolerated even if they royally piss the SJWs off.

Blogger Crude May 13, 2015 7:53 AM  

The point isn't that this will never change. The point is that the "human nature" of current whites is different from the "human nature" of the whites that conquered South America. You are literally genetically different.

I do wonder how many of the brave, selfless sorts were weeded out in the World Wars.

Anonymous Porky May 13, 2015 7:57 AM  

No, the opposite - the SJW schtick about 'equality' is fucking fake.

Fake or not, the definition holds. If you are an activist for equality and redistribution then you are an SJW. I couldn't care less if you actually believe what you are saying.

About the only thing I've said is that when times get lean, priorities shift. I don't see that changing.

View it from the perspective of the leaders of the SJW's and you get a different picture. They aren't worried about food and they never will. Their priority is control. If they can maintain control by portraying themselves as the champions of minorities and the poor then that's what they'll do.

When times get lean, they'll eat whoever George Soros tells them to eat. It will be the Koch brothers who get dragged out of their mansion and roasted on a spit, not the Obamas.

Yeah, like I said - sometimes the farmer's don't have that much control either. Sometimes the farmer's backstab each other, sometimes a new farmer shows up on the scene.

And as I said, this happens in lean times and fat.

You've entirely missed the point so I'll dumb it down.

1) Yes, when times get lean priorities change and people get desperate.
2) When desperate, in a robust ascending society where freedom is cherished, people will backlash.
3) When desperate, In a weak descending society where freedom is readily abandoned for security, people will wallow and oink for more slop.

Got it? It's a wild hog / domestic hog argument - not a fat pig / hungry pig argument.


Anonymous Crude May 13, 2015 10:37 AM  

Porky,

Fake or not, the definition holds. If you are an activist for equality and redistribution then you are an SJW.

Great - then everyone is a SJW, as I showed with the protectionism example. And 'the definition' seems to come down to 'Porky's personal definition'. But Porky's personal definition is inane, so hey.

When times get lean, they'll eat whoever George Soros tells them to eat. It will be the Koch brothers who get dragged out of their mansion and roasted on a spit, not the Obamas.

Because, what? You really hope so? The Koch Brothers are yet more SJWs by your own definition - they are more than happy to talk about how this policy or that policy is more 'fair', they advocate their own tax plans and social welfare priorities that benefit themselves and their allies.

In your crazy delusions, the Illuminati-like Masters of the Universe all walk in universal lock step with each other. Everything goes according to plan, they always get exactly what they want, they never compete with each other, never betray each other, never make mistakes, and are all on the same side.

And what's your evidence for this? 'I, Porky - the guy who can't even follow a single conversation thread accurately - have seen it with my own eyes!' Yeah, pardon me for being skeptical.

You've entirely missed the point so I'll dumb it down.

Are you sure you were talking to me? You seem to have trouble keeping clear on little things like 'who said what, in one comment section'. But I'm sure you just turn into Mega-Kasparov when it comes to predicting the future. Let's see.

Yes, when times get lean priorities change and people get desperate.

Thank you for conceding my point.

When desperate, in a robust ascending society where freedom is cherished, people will backlash.

I'm skeptical of that.

When desperate, In a weak descending society where freedom is readily abandoned for security, people will wallow and oink for more slop.

Yeah. Think about this one really hard now, Porky. What needs to happen when they wallow and oink for more slop?

What happens when these little piggies over here want more slop, and these other piggies over here want more slop too, but there's only so much slop to go around?

What happens when there's more than one farmer? When one farmer wants the other farmer's hogs? The other farmer's slop? Do you understand that 'lean times' mean more than 'the farmer is withholding some of his unlimited supply of slop'?

As I said: the farmers have their own roles to play, and they're often as slaves to circumstance as anyone else. They make mistakes. They compete amongst themselves. They get surprised. They get desperate, they get aggressive, they get a lot of things.

In other words? It's complicated and uncertain, just as it's always been. Take your guesses, but have some self-skepticism, because all indications - 'this is happening right before our eyes' - is that you're pretty middling when it comes to sorting this shit out. No surprise, since by your own estimation you're yet another piggy wallowing and oinking.

Leave the thinking to others, and just enjoy your slop. Not like you have a choice, right?

Anonymous Porky May 13, 2015 12:08 PM  

Great - then everyone is a SJW, as I showed with the protectionism example.

I still have no idea what protectionism has to do with equalitarianism. Do you?

Because, what? You really hope so? The Koch Brothers are yet more SJWs by your own definition

The Koch brothers are activists for equalitarianism? News to me.

In your crazy delusions, the Illuminati-like Masters of the Universe all walk in universal lock step with each other.

I said earlier that they "eat each other". I think I may have said it more than once.

But now Crude informs me that I don't actually believe that. Crude tells me I actually believe that they all "walk in lockstep".

Golly - what am I supposed to believe? The words that I actually wrote and agree with - or Crude's made-up bullshit psychologizing about my supposed internal delusions that I apparently harbor?

Crude, you are entirely, disgustingly predictable. When it becomes apparent that you have missed the entire crux of the discussion you invariably fall back on making up some outlandish idea and attributing it to me. Before I typed my first syllable in response to you I knew that this would happen - because you always do it.

It's a horrible habit. It's absolutely degenerate. It's borderline retarded. I've argued with atheist-leftist-vegan-animal-rights-activist-global-warming-freaks that would never stoop to your level of dishonest discourse.

I'd seriously rather lick Seanan McGuire's feet than waste another moment arguing with you.

Anonymous Crude May 13, 2015 1:29 PM  

Porky,

I still have no idea what protectionism has to do with equalitarianism. Do you?

Go ahead, Porky. I made the challenge: explain protectionism in a way that sections it off from 'wealth redistribution' and 'fairness', especially by your elastic definitions.

The Koch brothers are activists for equalitarianism? News to me.

The Koch brothers cloak their wants in terms like what's 'fair' and 'just' and yes, even 'equal'. Just like everyone else around. Surprise: people use buzzwords that resonate well.

This is news to you? You're sitting here saying that SJWs *really want* fairness and 'equality'. And you call others blind?

I said earlier that they "eat each other". I think I may have said it more than once.

And then you went right on to talk about George Soros running everything and calling the shots. Hence: "When times get lean, they'll eat whoever George Soros tells them to eat. It will be the Koch brothers who get dragged out of their mansion and roasted on a spit, not the Obamas."

Like I said: you really think it's that simple? That set?

or Crude's made-up bullshit psychologizing about my supposed internal delusions

No, Porky. Put down the slop for a moment and focus on the screen. The psychoanalyzing? That's your bag. You made an ass out of yourself talking about everyone thinking they're wolves but they're really pigs, about how they're expecting to take part in some great backlash, when I said no such thing.

Pardon me for calling you out on your mistakes. It leads to hurt feelings - very unequal of me. So what?

When it becomes apparent that you have missed the entire crux of the discussion you

Porky, the entire crux of the conversation is 'Porky loves to predict the future with certainty, but can't even follow a thread - so really, why believe him?' You try to rile and make things personal, and in your rush you fuck up and forget to read. Yeah, that reflects poorly on your reasoning. Hence, leave the thinking to others, and enjoy your slop.

I'd seriously rather lick Seanan McGuire's feet than waste another moment arguing with you.

And yet you'll do so, again and again. Maybe it says something about your love of Seanan. Or at least, feet.

Look, Porky - the lesson here is, 'Second guess yourself.' Heartbreaking as it may be to you, you've got a shitty track record with predicting the future, with evaluating others, and really, with discussion in general. And hey, that's fine. Just learn to be aware of your faults, and take criticism in stride.

Wait, no. You can't do that. Just eat the slop, wallow and squeal, Porky. Remember: that's all you can do.

Anonymous Porky May 13, 2015 2:03 PM  

I made the challenge: explain protectionism in a way that sections it off from wealth redistribution' and 'fairness',

Goalpost moved from "equalitarianism" to "fairness". Pathetic.

The Koch brothers cloak their wants in terms like what's 'fair' and 'just' and yes, even 'equal'.

Goalpost moved from "activism" to "cloaking their wants". Pathetic.

You're sitting here saying that SJWs *really want* fairness and 'equality'.

Nope. Just another lie you made up. Pathetic.

You are a pathetic liar, Crude. And it is evident for all to see.

Come heeeere Seanan. I've got fudge...

Blogger Corvinus May 13, 2015 2:09 PM  

On the subject of SJWs, apparently Arthur Chu really has handed over control of his Twatter (@arthur_affect) to his wife.

Anonymous Crude May 13, 2015 2:23 PM  

Porky,

Goalpost moved from "equalitarianism" to "fairness". Pathetic.

By all means, explain how 'fairness' is rhetorically cashed out differently from 'equalitarianism', especially for SJWs.

Why do you do this, Porky? Why do you lie, and why do you do it so obviously?

Goalpost moved from "activism" to "cloaking their wants". Pathetic.

Once again, no goalpost moved. Porky, activism IS 'cloaking their wants'. Activism is presentation, it's rhetoric, it's show.

Again: Why do you do this, Porky? Why do you lie, and why do you do it so obviously?

Nope. Just another lie you made up. Pathetic.

Me: They have no interest in equality

You: They sure spend a lot of time and money promoting and implementing something they have no interest in.

Why do you this, Porky? Why do you lie, and why do you do it so obviously?

See, Porky, the problem here isn't just your lies. It's your incompetence. You know you're full of shit, so calling you a liar means nothing. But pointing out you suck at deception and rhetoric? That just gets right under the pork rinds, now doesn't it.

Now suck them toes, and remember: keep on wallowing and oinking. It is, after all, all you can do.

Anonymous Crude May 13, 2015 2:25 PM  

On the subject of SJWs, apparently Arthur Chu really has handed over control of his Twatter (@arthur_affect) to his wife.

Did this happen in the wake of the SJW being caught in the sin of making rape jokes? His way of atoning?

Anonymous Porky May 13, 2015 3:12 PM  

By all means, explain how 'fairness' is rhetorically cashed out differently from 'equalitarianism', especially for SJWs.

Then why you don't just use the word? Explain to us why you'd rather use a weasel word than the actual term you vile disingenuous vermin.

activism IS 'cloaking their wants'.

In which dictionary, you disgusting son of Satan?

Me: They have no interest in equality

You: They sure spend a lot of time and money promoting and implementing something they have no interest in.


Quoting me out of context won't help you you foul, vulgar, lying, scum.
Why don't you try again and quote the previous sentence of mine? And don't truncate your own response this time either. Quote it in it's entirety you slanderous worm.

You are beyond disingenuous. You are a malignant, lying moron. A slave servant to the father of lies.

Anonymous Crude May 13, 2015 3:36 PM  

Then why you don't just use the word? Explain to us why you'd rather use a weasel word than the actual term you vile disingenuous vermin.

Holy hell, Porky. Did you forget it was your elastic use of the term SJW that prompted this? You're the one who extended it so far.

That you can't keep one thread straight is one thing, but man, you can't even keep your own shit straight? That's awesome.

In which dictionary, you disgusting son of Satan?

Oh my, here come the religious invectives. If you think 'activism' is separate from 'rhetoric', well... that would explain why you thought that SJWs sincerely cared about "equality".

Quoting me out of context won't help you you foul, vulgar, lying, scum.
Why don't you try again and quote the previous sentence of mine?


Porky, why do you lie, and why do you do so so obviously?

You're the one who expressed incredulity at the idea that SJWs don't want 'equality' - after all, they can't shut up about it! Guess what, Porky? They don't shut up about 'fairness' either. Neither does anyone pushing a policy.

Why don't you try again and quote the previous sentence of mine? And don't truncate your own response this time either. Quote it in it's entirety you slanderous worm.

I quoted the entire exchange at that point, Porky. You want what came before what I quoted? By all means: "Wrong. SJW's are activists for wealth redistribution and equality. This is true whether they are leftist politicians, greedy banksters, or catholic popes and bishops. "

It doesn't help your case, Porky.

You are beyond disingenuous. You are a malignant, lying moron. A slave servant to the father of lies.

It's adorable when you not only lie, but you ramp up the religious rhetoric to try and seem more authentic. Especially with 'person who is calling you out in comments'. What do you do for an encore? Try an iExorcism?

You're a liar, Porky. And you're not very good at it.

Now, come at me again. I suggest you do a 'I cast thee OUT Satan' routine. If you're going to be incompetent, at least be entertaining.

Anonymous Porky May 13, 2015 4:07 PM  

Did you forget it was your elastic use of the term SJW...
My definition has not changed. That's the exact opposite of elastic you lying rat.

If you think 'activism' is separate from 'rhetoric', well...
Just as I thought. Rather than use the actual word, you try to 'attach' a weasel word.

Disgusting.

You're the one who expressed incredulity at the idea that SJWs don't want 'equality' - after all, they can't shut up about it!

And of course, rather than quote me directly you throw some words out there that I never said in a lame attempt to link them to me.

Slander and lies. It comes easily to you.

You want what came before what I quoted? By all means:

And as I suspected you truncated your own response. You really are a pathetic, predictable little suckhole.



Anonymous Crude May 13, 2015 4:27 PM  

Porky,

My definition has not changed. That's the exact opposite of elastic you lying rat.

Porky, you're not just a liar, you're incompetent. Your definition of 'SJW' was 'activists for wealth redistribution and equality'. I pointed out, that picks up a tremendous number of people, way beyond what most people mean by SJW. Do you not get the 'elastic' part of that?

Maybe you don't. You're not just a liar, you're also slow.

Just as I thought. Rather than use the actual word, you try to 'attach' a weasel word.

I used the actual word, Porky. And unlike you, I've been quoting your fuckups. You keep frantically squealing that I misrepresent you, but funny - I give quotes, and you avoid doing so.

And of course, rather than quote me directly you throw some words out there that I never said in a lame attempt to link them to me.

I already quoted you, Porky. Remember? "They sure spend a lot of time and money promoting and implementing something they have no interest in." ? Because you thought they really fucking cared about equality. I mean they must, otherwise why would they talk about it so much, right?

And as I suspected you truncated your own response.

Porky, I've quoted everything you asked for - it got you nowhere. You keep alluding to magic fucking words that I didn't quote, but yet you won't quote them yourself. They're right in this thread, and anyone can read the exchange. Why do you think that lying like this is going to get you anywhere?

Oh, wait, I remember. Because the issue isn't just that you're a liar, but that you're incompetent. Hence 'Crude thinks there will be a backlash!' when I've spent the thread questioning that. Hence what you're doing now.

You really are a pathetic, predictable little suckhole.

Poor little Porky, squealing like a pig at getting caught lying incompetently again. Sorry, did your routine of trying to rile everyone up by telling all the people on this site how they're not wolves, but pigs who the farmers rule not go as planned?

Squeal more, piggy - but you forgot your fake religiosities this time. Shouldn't you be pretending to cast Satan out or whatever you think Christians do when people piss them off in comments sections? Or did I take that for Granted? ;)

Anonymous tiredofitall May 13, 2015 4:44 PM  

"Quoting me out of context won't help you you foul, vulgar, lying, scum.
Why don't you try again and quote the previous sentence of mine? And don't truncate your own response this time either. Quote it in it's entirety you slanderous worm.

You are beyond disingenuous. You are a malignant, lying moron. A slave servant to the father of lies. " - porky

Annd out comes Porky's "inner rabbit". You've already gone for disqualify and slander, are you gonna call him a shitlord next to complete the SJW trifecta?

Anonymous Porky May 13, 2015 6:36 PM  

Your definition of 'SJW' was 'activists for wealth redistribution and equality'. I pointed out, that picks up a tremendous number of people, way beyond what most people mean by SJW.

No, stupid. Pat Robertson is not an "activist for wealth redistribution and equality". Only an idiot would classify him as such. And you, apparently, are just that kind of idiot. Congratulations.

The only elasticity is when you try to twist the definition by adding words and ignoring others. It's truly, malignantly disingenuous.

It's amazing how easy it is for you to lie. It seems to be a natural thing for you. And the pathetic part is that you didn't even need to lie. You could have simply disagreed and left it at that. But you lie even when there is no reason to lie. It's both fascinating and repulsive at the same time.

Anonymous Porky May 13, 2015 6:39 PM  

^Buchanan, not Robertson

Blogger Crude May 13, 2015 7:40 PM  

Porky,

Pat Robertson is not an "activist for wealth redistribution and equality". Only an idiot would classify him as such.

By your inane definitions, he's an SJW. Wealth redistribution? Check - he's a protectionist, and the terms on which he justifies it would suffice. Proponent of 'equality'? Check. He regards the SJWs as offering inequality and lies. Real equality is equality of opportunity, not outcome.

The only elasticity is when you try to twist the definition by adding words and ignoring others.

No, the elasticity is when you take 'Social Justice Warrior' and decide to apply it to anyone who is an activist for 'equality' and 'wealth redistribution'. Stupidity? That's when you really believe that SJWs are all about equality, even if you think they're wrong.

It's amazing how easy it is for you to lie.

Porky, you're a shameless liar, and I've exposed as much. Incompetent too. I mean shit, you can't even troll that well - you go from trying to rile people up, calling them 'pigs' and insulting them, but point out how full of it you are and you just lose it.

But again, you did say one thing right. You're just a pig, wallowing and oinking on command. It's what you are, piggy. Embrace it! Admit it! But stop trying to bullshit others, stop lying, and stop being so fucking incompetent. Leave the thinking to your masters. They shall leave the oinking in your capable hooves.

Blogger Crude May 13, 2015 7:40 PM  

Annd out comes Porky's "inner rabbit".

For a guy who tries to troll, he sure freaks the fuck out when exposed. Long-eared pig, I suppose.

Anonymous Porky May 13, 2015 11:28 PM  

Dude...are you still talking? Stop. Just....stop. It's over.

Look........when you actually put forth the argument that Pat Buchanan...THE Pat Buchanan... is "an activist for wealth redistribution and equality"...and you are serious about it...and you repeat it, so that everyone knows you are dead serious about it.... that is what is commonly referred to as "going full retard". I'm not sure why you went full retard. But full retard is where you are. There is no setting higher than "full retard". There is no "full-er retard". You have achieved the high score. Basically, you have just summited Mount Retard. There is no more retarded peak to climb because you are sitting atop the most retarded mountain in the world. And because you did not turn back when base camp told you to, you are now out of oxygen and the sun is going down. There is no walking it back now. There will be no helicopter rescue in the rarified air of Retard Mountain. No sherpa with any sense at all will attempt to rescue you now. You are just up there waving your hands from the summit of Mount Retard. There is nothing for you to do now but lay down in the snow and wait for a slow cold death. One good thing though - since it the internet, your retarded corpse will stay there forever, frozen solid for all to see and appreciate your achievement. "Whatever happened to Crude?" they will say, then they will look at your dead, frozen corpse with the Simple Jack grin and remember "Oh, yeah! He went full retard and died on the summit of Retard Mountain".

Now if you'll excuse me, Seanan McGuire is coming over with a fifth of Maker's to help me forget that I wasted a chunk of my day talking to you.

Blogger Crude May 14, 2015 8:04 AM  

Look........when you actually put forth the argument that Pat Buchanan...THE Pat Buchanan... is "an activist for wealth redistribution and equality"...and you are serious about it.

Ahh, Porky. There you go again - lying, and lying incompetently at that. Remember this little bit?

Incorrect. They have no interest in equality, and their wealth redistribution aims are pretty tightly focused. You can count Pat Buchanan as a SJW if you tinker with the definitions to the extent you are - why, he's a protectionist, after all. He wants to redistribute the wealth too. But at that point, no one's going to care about your SJW talk. In fact, you'd be easy to classify as an SJW under those terms as well.

That'd be me, oh squealer. Not you. You're the one who redefined SJWs to such an unbelievably ridiculous, vague, elastic extent for the purposes of trying to troll people. So you fucked up and ended up making an ass out of yourself, screaming about Satan and being exposed as an incompetent serial liar. Accent on the 'incompetent' - I mean, for fuck's sake, it's one thing to give out stupid definitions of SJW, but to actually say 'B-b-but SJWs totally want equality! They talk about it all the time...!'?

Now that's priceless.

But hey, you do have a male-feet-sucking fetish to get to. Don't worry - I'm sure he'll pat you on the head and tell you 'No, Porky, you did good. You're the best little piggy on the farm! The farmers see you as their number one. They're not laughing at you. Now, lick a little harder. See? Aren't you glad you got over women?'

Such a good little piggy you are.

Anonymous Porky May 14, 2015 9:56 AM  

No one is going to rescue you. You made the decision to go full retard and you made a solo expedition to Retard Mountain. Base camp has called off the search. There is no one to help you now. The sherpas are all too terrified. My advice is to eat a power bar, enjoy the view, and wait for the icy fingers of death. There are worse ways to go.

While you're certainly not the first person to summit Mt. Retard, you are definitely in very elite company. You can probably see their frozen corpses from where you are standing. Baghdad Bob. Balloon Boy's father. Kanye. And that girl who said she was familiar with Austrian Economics because she had been shopping in Vienna. Their stiff, hardened cadavers, preserved as if in suspended animation, are eternal monuments to those who dared to go full retard. And now, you will join them.

Godspeed.

Anonymous tiredofitall May 14, 2015 12:18 PM  

"You made the decision to go full retard" - Porky

Uh...Porky? That guy you're describing is you. The fact that you're making a perfect description of yourself and attributing it to someone else is hilarious.

Keep being yourself ya funny little window licker.

Anonymous Porky May 14, 2015 12:31 PM  

Look, a sherpa is attempting a rescue!

Anonymous Porky May 14, 2015 12:34 PM  

Nevermind. He was just taking a poop.

Anonymous Sevron May 14, 2015 4:13 PM  

Porky also used the classic rabbit move of "unilaterally declare victory and attempt to move on." It's really like clockwork, isn't it?

Anonymous Porky May 14, 2015 5:20 PM  

@Sevron

What part of "Full Retard" do you not understand?

Blogger Crude May 14, 2015 5:57 PM  

It's really like clockwork, isn't it?

Piggies gotta squeal, of course. Especially retarded piggies with a thing for men's feet.

Hold on now, I hear Porky's squeals getting closer. Angry piglet lashing out in 3... 2...

Anonymous tiredofitall May 14, 2015 6:03 PM  

"What part of "Full Retard" do you not understand?" - Porky

The part where you try to apply it to people other than yourself.

Now make sure you have your helmet, coloring books and graham crackers, the short bus should be along in a few minutes to pick you up.

Anonymous Porky May 14, 2015 9:17 PM  

It's great that you want to rescue your friend and all. But it's simply too late. The effects of FRS (Full Retard Syndrome) are already setting in, and they are almost always fatal. The last one to actually come out of FRS was Streetbike Tommy, and he never really recovered completely.

The only way for you to even attempt to rescue him at this point is to go full retard yourself. Are you willing to do that? I mean....even if you were to get him down from Retard Mountain, it is unlikely that he would ever recover from this full blown episode of full retard.

Anonymous Porky May 15, 2015 1:24 PM  

Base camp has apparently lost all radio contact.

Goodbye, Crude. I can assure you that your achievement will never be forgotten.

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