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Saturday, May 16, 2015

Skip Mad Max

I certainly have no desire to see it myself. In addition to all the Grrrl Power nonsense, the core plot obviously makes no sense:
The truth is I’m angry about the extents Hollywood and the director of Fury Road went to trick me and other men into seeing this movie. Everything VISUALLY looks amazing. It looks like that action guy flick we’ve desperately been waiting for where it is one man with principles, standing against many with none.

But let us be clear. This is the vehicle by which they are guaranteed to force a lecture on feminism down your throat. This is the Trojan Horse feminists and Hollywood leftists will use to (vainly) insist on the trope women are equal to men in all things, including physique, strength, and logic. And this is the subterfuge they will use to blur the lines between masculinity and femininity, further ruining women for men, and men for women.

So do yourself and all men across the world a favor. Not only REFUSE to see the movie, but spread the word to as many men as possible. Not all of them have the keen eye we do here at ROK. And most will be taken in by fire tornadoes and explosions. Because if they sheepishly attend and Fury Road is a blockbuster, then you, me, and all the other men (and real women) in the world will never be able to see a real action movie ever again that doesn’t contain some damn political lecture or moray about feminism, SJW-ing, and socialism.
It's a post-apocalyptic setting, right? That means survival is the absolute priority, which means K/selection, which means that having your women behave in a manner consistent with perhaps the ultimate r/selection environment means that you'll be selected out of existence in short order no matter how awesome Charlize Theron pretends to be.

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Blogger S1AL May 16, 2015 1:18 AM  

Eh, I'm not willing to judge an entire movie based on 5 seconds of a preview.

Anonymous Wyrd May 16, 2015 1:33 AM  

So, is the Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla a transwomyn of color (with headmates) in the new film?

Blogger SirThermite May 16, 2015 2:02 AM  

Posted a link on my Twitter and my social media page a couple days ago, to the Time article about Eve Ensler saying it's a feminist action movie. Was trying to warn any of the men I know who might have also been planning to see it in theaters, but the only real response I received was from a IDPA range officer who went and saw it anyway and implied I was missing out.

Blogger SirThermite May 16, 2015 2:03 AM  

Short of actual violence, the only way for this nonsense to end is to start messing with women's movies, whether via intentional black-knighting or Hollywood going full retard. Would've LOVED to see someone make Twilight or Fifty Shades without a straight white cismale lead. Maybe give the ladies of Team Edward this mascot (safe for work) to gawk at. S/he even sparkles in the sunlight.

Blogger J Thomas May 16, 2015 2:13 AM  

Well that's shitty news. Was gonna go this weekend, maybe not so much anymore.

Anonymous Beau May 16, 2015 2:14 AM  

OT

.All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation 2 Corinthians 5:18

Tonight running the homeless outreach route I heard, "Richard is behind you." Turning slowly - and frankly thankful for the warning - I saw him as remembered: tall, emaciated, with a haunted vacant stare. He leaned in and whispered, "May I speak with you." I thought he was going to bowl me over.

Richard said he came looking for me earlier in the evening. He wanted into detox. I heartily encouraged him to come in. Richard then asked me to pray. That startled me - the last we spoke four months ago he was calling me seven kinds of a dog and other colorful descriptors. Being momentarily off balance I turned my eyes towards heaven and asked, "What to pray?" A quick response, "A personalized 23rd Psalm." As I began Richard burst into tears, lowered his head onto my right arm and wept big broken tears. When we finished I told Richard I'd see him at our place.

Thank you Lord Jesus.

Blogger jayb May 16, 2015 2:18 AM  

The Femedia are all over this already. Apparently, having Charlize's character being the protagonist, and the film named after her, are just awesome.

I look forward to their advocacy of desegregated sports.

Anonymous David-093 May 16, 2015 2:20 AM  

Mad Maxipad: Furry Road

In a dystopian future where everyone's dying of post-apocalyptic bullshit like starvation, cannibalism, and microaggressions, one woman will prove to the world that she doesn't need a man. To do so, she'll team up with Mad Maxipad, her beta orbiter and long time white knighting friend, to kick sexist ass and maybe find the alpha chieftain of her darkest dreams.

Anonymous DT May 16, 2015 2:26 AM  

I've been hearing this all over. But on one forum two guys who have seen the movie reported that the claims of SJW indoctrination are way overblown. They reported that...

* Mad Max is clearly the main character, not Charlize.

* Some of the women do fight but it's abundantly clear they could not win without the men...particularly Max...leading the fight and doing all the heavy lifting.

Not sure who to believe. I want to see it and I want it to be good, but I don't want to hand Hollywood my money if it's SJW crap.

Anonymous Homesteader May 16, 2015 2:33 AM  

When a lie is so pernicious that it must be supported with propaganda, state sactioned violence, and loss of livelihood, we know that it is weak, and dying.

In this we may rejoice. This epoch of evil cannot stand much longer; its legs totter as they stomp.



By the way, nice book, David. Our homestead has use for your craft.

Anonymous LegallySpeaking May 16, 2015 2:39 AM  

@DT

The best play is to not see it based on the ads alone. That would punish hollywood for even to appear to cotton to feminazi tropes.

make it clear we will not brook even a HINT of sjw-madness in our movies,and woe be the studio that tries to even hint at it.

Anonymous Wyrd May 16, 2015 2:40 AM  

"...and wept big broken tears..."

Heavenly Father
Blessed is Your Name
Source of all Good and Holiness
Creator of all things
Be with Beau and his wards
We are nothing without Christ
None can escape sin on his own
Praise Your justice
And Your mercy
In Christ's Name we pray
Amen.

Blogger SirThermite May 16, 2015 2:41 AM  

Mad Maxipad: Furry Road

That's a lotta sand and dust storms...better bring "Summer's" Eve Ensler to talk about vag health and some dry lube (for the guns)....

Anonymous Red May 16, 2015 2:42 AM  

Mad max 2 and 3 were both girl power films. That didn't stop Mad Max 2 (The Road Warrior) from being a great flick. It's hard to take girl power seriously when it's always the guys bailing them out. And frankly there have been a few historical women who were very persuasive and caused some crazy things (Eleanor of Aquitaine). The outcome from their actions were general bad and destructive, but you can't deny that such women often wield actual power through others.

Besides, Aaron Clarey never watched the film. I general view Clarey is a hack who lives as a parasite off the Mano-sphere mostly talking about stuff he has no experience with. I read and enjoyed his blog for years, but I've generally found him to be wrong when he makes predictions.

Anonymous Sensei May 16, 2015 2:46 AM  

Because if they sheepishly attend and Fury Road is a blockbuster, then you, me, and all the other men (and real women) in the world will never be able to see a real action movie ever again that doesn’t contain some damn political lecture or moray about feminism, SJW-ing, and socialism.

Right, because boycotting this film is going to successfully accomplish that, and not boycotting it will cause that to happen when it wouldn't already have...

Leave shunning to the rabbits. Ventures like Castalia are a thousand times better than fruitless calls for boycotts, because it's producing a viable alternative, which is not only good for you, unlike the SJW koolaid, but tastes better too.

Blogger Hd Hammer May 16, 2015 3:39 AM  

Rather rent and watch The Baytown Outlaws. Mindless masculine violence. Fun for everyone.
Just the Metacritic reviewers bashing it should suffice to convince the Ilk.

http://m.imdb.com/title/tt1836944/

Anonymous grey enlightenment May 16, 2015 3:39 AM  

I general view Clarey is a hack who lives as a parasite off the Mano-sphere mostly talking about stuff he has no experience with. I read and enjoyed his blog for years, but I've generally found him to be wrong when he makes predictions.

those are fighting words. So a parasite is someone ho earns money form his labor and intelligence from people who are are paying to consume it.

Anonymous Artyoan May 16, 2015 4:30 AM  

Can't say I agree. This takes the same bogus approach as feminists do in that each film or video game or whatever needs to become a political battlefield. No matter how small the hill its suddenly a mountain.

The feminism of this film extends to the girl power. It doesn't go beyond that unless you reach heavily. There are women being milked on screen in this film. Mad Max not only stops them from being killed multiple times but saves the day throughout the entire movie. He beats the hell out of Furiosa when they fight.

At this point I think many of the film reviewers established a narrative about heavy handed feminism that isn't there and Vox among others took the bait.

Anonymous Red May 16, 2015 4:37 AM  

One year Clarey did a video about good gifts for Christmas that consisted of random things to buy from his amazon kick back link.

He asked for donations for a motorcycle. Later he did a post bragging how he only worked a part of the year by choice and spent the rest of time traveling around doing nothing in particular. Seemed rather less than mannly to be so free with his time and yet to beg others to buy him a bike.

I've heard from 3ed parties that Clarey hates racial talk people in the Manosphere gets into but won't blog about it because he might loose readership and thus income. He tells people larglly what they want to hear.

Now there's a bunch similar people who feed of the manosphere in a variety of ways, but if you enjoy thier writing, eh no biggy. I just wouldn't trust thier recommendation especially if it's on a movie he hasn't even watched.

Admittedly the feminst reaction to his post is quite amazing.

Anonymous Porphyry May 16, 2015 5:10 AM  

my theory is thats its an inception like synecdoche for max's mind where max is really one of the girls and he's trying to rationalize the whole thing hence why its all about survival but at the same time somehow a noble quest.

Anonymous PhillipGeorge©2015 May 16, 2015 5:13 AM  

I'm guessing at a lot in saying this but a lot of the Arab Spring now resembles anyone's idea of a post apocalyptic landscape. And female Peshmerga snipers may have been doing reasonably well. Given a lot of the battle lines are genocidal take no prisoners affairs I suspect giving a woman a gun might be helpful.

WND are running a story that White S.A mercenaries are in Kenya as successful attack dogs against Boko Haram/ ? Al Shaabab/ black ops/ false flag funded flavour of the month.
This story couldn't be written. White mercenaries save black girls from Islam slave traders...... OOOrah
there might be a lot of moral gray areas in Africa but shooting child kidnappers/ Islamic slave traders on sight seems reasonable.

Blogger teqzilla May 16, 2015 5:22 AM  

What leads me against viewing this as a sincere piece of feminist agitprop is how open they've been about its supposed feminist influence and goals. You don't tell people you're trying to trick that you're trying to trick them.

The more cynical reading is that they're conning the media into giving a bunch of free promotion and generous reviews to their dumb action film by letting them believe theyre making a blow against the patriarchy in doing so. That makes more sense to me than believing that they are going to try and get fans of action films fired up about the wage gap.

Blogger Salt May 16, 2015 5:25 AM  

It has, a little surprisingly, got very good feminist credentials too.

Take a guess what blog that comment is on. Answer here.

Anonymous Discard May 16, 2015 5:34 AM  

When there are good books to read, why would any man ever watch any Girls Kick Butt movie? Might as well watch Brilliant Negroes Save the Planet.

Blogger Man. Cla. May 16, 2015 5:37 AM  

The trailer I saw ran like a pro-feminist trailer. Basically some lesbian looking woman, head shaven, telling Max, "you want to live, do as I say", narrating the thing like if it's her story.

That trailer alone was enough reason not to see it.

I personally can live without it. Sometimes SJWism can be difficult to avoid, but in this case it isn't much of a loss to not see the movie.

Blogger Bob May 16, 2015 5:41 AM  

"... a real action movie ever again that doesn’t contain some damn political lecture or moray about feminism..."

Feminist moray? *imagines SCUBA diving and encountering a feminist moray...*

Blogger Doom May 16, 2015 7:47 AM  

I've been told. Not by reviewers of this movie, but by many movies before it, that h-wood is out of step in the 180 degree wrong direction. I had no more intention of watching this than the last Conan, or any other movie that will be pushed out of propaganda central. The idiot was a fool, like Charlie Brown to Lucy. How many times he will kick at the ball, only to have it not be there, who knows. I have no sympathy for men with hope for something worth watching out of that Sodom. Fuck him and the movie he rode in on.

Blogger Cataline Sergius May 16, 2015 8:12 AM  

I am hearing the words, Feminist Action Movie .

Also the reviews at RottenTomatoes are telling, when you have learned to read between the lines. The action scenes look impressive but it's not worth the PC force feeding.

I am not paying money to see Mad Maxine.

Here is my alternate suggestion: Raid 2 It puts the Awe in awesome.

Blogger njartist May 16, 2015 8:20 AM  

A2Beau May 16, 2015 2:14 AM
From this morning's reading:
Joh 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
Joh 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?


Blogger S1AL May 16, 2015 8:26 AM  

Doom -

Are you under the impression that there was some sort of blatant feminism in the new Conan? If so, let me assure you that it's quite the opposite. That movie was actually great fun, though incredibly cheesy.

Anonymous NorthernHamlet May 16, 2015 8:32 AM  

VD,

For the sake of disclosure: if the world were to go to shit, what sort of small band of completely insane and completely dangerous animals would you put together? Would you roam the countryside inspiring offroad terror? Would you dominate weekly fights in the Pits? What would be your purpose?

Inquiring minds and all that.

Anonymous Thuvia May 16, 2015 8:34 AM  

Peter Grant - Bayou Renaissance Man commented:

You know all those portrayals of dystopian post-disaster reality that the movies portray? I have news for the movies. I've been in such realities. I've seen them. I've smelled them. I've lived them in more than one African nation plagued by war, or famine, or other disaster. I know what dystopia means . . . and what it does not mean, ever, is any kind of female physical ascendancy. It simply doesn't happen. Women don't have the strength to endure against men who want to take anything and everything they have. I've seen it time and again. I've stopped (the hard way) men trying to do that to women . . . and it was never enough, because when you turned your back, there were always more desperate men with nothing to lose (and nothing to care about) who were prepared to renew the attack.

http://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2015/05/feminism-ruins-mad-max-remake.html

Blogger Krul May 16, 2015 9:18 AM  

Another day, another over-hyped, flashy, unnecessary, inferior remake.

Anonymous joe doakes May 16, 2015 9:20 AM  

Boring message movies are the leading cause of puppy related sadness.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey May 16, 2015 9:23 AM  

I'm laughing at the image of grown men (presumably) quoting Bible verses in comments section and weeping. Dumb hicks. Too funny.

Blogger fisher man May 16, 2015 9:32 AM  

I am seeing it tonight (already had tickets). I will report back tonight.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 16, 2015 9:56 AM  

Critical Theory works both ways. If it's crap propaganda call it that don't go all betacon on us

Anonymous JJ May 16, 2015 10:06 AM  

I've heard a lot of comments that the feminist angle has been overhyped, that the actual movie is just lots of action without much ideology to it. I can definitely believe that. Even so:

- They cast scrawny 100-lb Charlize Theron as a post-apocalyptic military commander who rescues women from the white men holding them in an absurdly on-the-nose parody of patriarchal marriage (remember feminists always go on about how in traditional marriage wives are the "property" of their husband and have no purpose other than to have babies).
- The marketing heavily emphasized Theron over Hardy. I don't think he even had any lines in the first trailer. On the posters he is just barely crammed into one edge.
- Eve Ensler (author of "The Vagina Monologues") consulted on the movie, and the producers allowed her to run around yelling "This is a feminist movie" to anyone who would listen.

Basically, whether the movie is ideological or not, the producers are clearly happy to let it be presented that way, which is bad enough for me. If I do see it, I'll buy a ticket for something else and just happen to walk into the wrong theater.

Incidentally, I've seen some comments talking about Theron's character as "the best female action hero since Ripley", which is kind of hilarious since if you go back and watch Aliens again it's hard to ignore the fact that Ripley is a huge b*tch to everyone and not likeable at all. Plus at the end she becomes a ridiculously implausible Mary Sue/Rambo hybrid. If that's anyone's idea of a great female character, the cinema is doomed.

Blogger Nate May 16, 2015 10:17 AM  

this is just one more remake we're all going to pretend never happened.

Like that giant lizard movie in the early 2000s...

Blogger Nate May 16, 2015 10:19 AM  

"I've heard a lot of comments that the feminist angle has been overhyped, that the actual movie is just lots of action without much ideology to it."

I haven't seen it. I won't see it. But a buddy told me Max spends the first half of the movie strapped to the front of a vehicle pretty much doing nothing. Max is barely in the movie at all. This isn't a Road Warrior movie. Its a girl power movie set in the Road Warrior world.

Anonymous Scintan May 16, 2015 10:31 AM  

The marketing heavily emphasized Theron over Hardy. I don't think he even had any lines in the first trailer. On the posters he is just barely crammed into one edge.

Theron's the bigger star. It's not surprising that they'd be emphasizing her presence in the movie.

Blogger Harsh May 16, 2015 10:41 AM  

Eh, I'm not willing to judge an entire movie based on 5 seconds of a preview.

Why are you so narrow-minded?

Blogger Harsh May 16, 2015 10:43 AM  

Like that giant lizard movie in the early 2000s...

There's a Roseanne Barr joke in there somewhere.

Anonymous Beau May 16, 2015 11:04 AM  

Dumb hicks. Too funny.

Sir, we wear your spit like medals. For in countless ages to come Richard and I will greet each other with great joy in marvelous precincts; while on the other hand, for you, no one would bother to cross the street.

Anonymous Will Best May 16, 2015 11:14 AM  

Theron's the bigger star. It's not surprising that they'd be emphasizing her presence in the movie.

Is she? Certainly more recognizable, but Hardy had Christopher Nolan vouch for him and appeared in Inception as well as the primary villain of The Dark Knight Rises.

Ordinarily I would say it was just a marketing ploy, however with MSM sources attacking the RoK piece in a mocking/deriding form has me thinking that it is in fact feminist propaganda.

Anonymous ZT May 16, 2015 11:22 AM  

I saw the movie
*spoiler alert ahead*

If that movie is a "grrrl power" then the level of self delusion feminists have hit is well beyond what I thought was possible.

Only time Furiosa (Charlize Theron) barks orders is during long freak'n car chase. It is more notification than command.

If Mad Max Fury Road was a "Feminist" movie then they showed their ineptitude with:
1: Failed female utopia
2: Failed getaway planning
3: Need for males (Max and Nux) to fix almost everything (Nux was pretty much Furiosa's mechanical equal on fixing the war machine)
4: In ability to fight without projectiles and surprise (and even then still needed a guy)
5: Failure to make proper tactical decisions. (Honestly Furiosa had guns, and Joe's trust, she could have just shot the dude)
6: Depends on Max to save Furiosa because he has super freak'n doctor skills. All other females can mostly just look sexy and sometimes shoot. (Note: Furiosa and some of the mothers can at least drive as good as a warboy)


Over all Thunderdome and Mad Max II were better examples of female power then Fury Road. At least Barter town was successful and run by a female entrepreneur.

I do agree with Max barely being in a good stretch of the movie but I honestly do not have trouble with that give it fit within the framework of the story.

My issues with the movie:
* How does Max get chased down by raiders when his car is pretty much the fastest vehicle as the raiders use it later to catch up to the runaways?
* Max is used as a blood bag the first half of the movie, how does he not just pass out?
* Furiosa is a good shot with a gun, trusted by Joe, and has access to vehicles and guns, but it never dawns on her to just shoot the old man Immortal Joe.
* Max sneaks' into night with a pistol and land mine and takes out a heavily armed tracked vehical and comes back with guns. How did he collect all the guns if he used the mine to destroy the vehicle? If he just killed them all with his desert mad fu then why didn't he just bring back the vehicle?
* There was a high level of mutation around Immortal Joe's camp. It was never really explained if that was because of where they were or if they had moved and all those people just followed him to the new home.
* There are many more but I'll leave that to the various Youtubers who will cover them.

Over all I enjoyed the movie. I did start feeling feminist dread midway through but it was gone after the first car chase given how much Furiosa depended on dumb luck and how Max and Nux saved her and the ladies. In short she would have been caught after the sand storm had she not had the fortune of Max and Nux getting on the truck.

Blogger Moor May 16, 2015 11:23 AM  

I watched the movie before reading or knowing anything about it's feminist agenda, and perhaps it's because I'm largely immune to it, but I did not come away from the film thinking that I'd been duped into some kind of girl power fantasy.

Charlize is clearly the main character in terms of driving the action, and there is clearly meant to be some bad-assery about her, but it seems fair to me that there would occasionally be such a person -- a woman who is damaged enough to turn her back on her femininity and embrace a more masculine role.

Much less believable is the group of women living alone in the desert, though even there I'm willing to bet that you could have this group of asexual women who've isolated themselves from the rapacious hordes in exchange for living what's left of their lives in relative peace.

Also, as far as physicality, the fact that machines and guns play so heavily into the plot means that there is leveling of the playing-field for the women involved. In hand-to-hand fighting the only male-female fight happens between Max and Theron, and while she manages to hold her own for a bit, even a chained and muzzled max is able to prevail.

So, for all that my opinion's worth here, which is undoubtedly very little given that I'm not a regular poster, I say just go see the movie if you want some visually stunning entertainment and some post-apocalyptic fantasy.

Anonymous Scintan May 16, 2015 11:23 AM  

Is she?

Clearly

The movie may be nothing but man hating, for all I know, but Marketing around the bigger star should not be a surprise to anyone.

Blogger Zimri May 16, 2015 11:29 AM  

I've analysed Beta Max on my blog. Everything RoK says is true and more.

Blogger A Martian Warlord May 16, 2015 11:37 AM  

Although they had so many things wrong and it was such a slow and crappy show for so many reasons, the walking dead had a tiny, little inkling of this towards the end of season 2 I think. Kinda stopped watching it after that.
In the comic books, the evil guy has a voluntary harem because food and safety etc.

in a post apocalyptic world it would revert to caveman status in a flash. Which means even without trying the ilk would likely become the leaders of many small fiefdoms.

Anonymous Joe Author May 16, 2015 11:41 AM  

George Miller is creating what he wants to create. Watch his new film, or don't watch his film.

Anonymous Scintan May 16, 2015 11:52 AM  

Watch his new film, or don't watch his film.

That's what's being discussed, slick: to watch, or not to watch. And don't kid yourself about movies involving any real level of financing. They are very rarely the exact movie that the director wants.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 16, 2015 11:53 AM  

I want Lucifer's Hammer in movie form.

Blogger Dan in Tx May 16, 2015 11:54 AM  

Honestly, I can't remember the last time Hollywood made any money off my going and seeing a movie. Like all the others, I'll pass.

Anonymous x May 16, 2015 12:00 PM  

So now we are not going to see movies simply because SJWs praise them?

excuse me, but go fuck yourselves.

Blogger Giuseppe May 16, 2015 12:07 PM  

"Laguna Beach Fogey - Dumb hicks. Too funny."

"St. Beau - Sir, we wear your spit like medals. For in countless ages to come Richard and I will greet each other with great joy in marvelous precincts; while on the other hand, for you, no one would bother to cross the street."

Well said Mr. Beau.

I'll go one further. I sometimes read Laguna Beach Fogey's comments, though there generally isn't much to them. Sounds mostly like an embittered whiner. But... after that comment to Beau, if I ever meet you Laguna Beach Fogey, in real life that is, I'll cross the street for ya. You won't like it. But I'll take the time.

Anonymous pdimov May 16, 2015 12:10 PM  

So now we are not going to see movies simply because SJWs praise them?

That's how culture wars work. Like it or not.

Blogger Retrenched May 16, 2015 12:33 PM  

Funny how on the one hand no one is allowed to mention the physical superiority of the male gender, but on the other hand everyone is supposed to support VAWA and similar laws because we all know women are weaker than men and need special protections.

Blogger Retrenched May 16, 2015 12:33 PM  

Funny how on the one hand no one is allowed to mention the physical superiority of the male gender, but on the other hand everyone is supposed to support VAWA and similar laws because we all know women are weaker than men and need special protections.

Anonymous ZT May 16, 2015 12:42 PM  

@pdimov That's how culture wars work. Like it or not.

Culture war doesn't mean rejecting everything the enemy accepts. For one that gives to much power to the enemy to direct your actions. Sad/Rabbit Puppies didn't do that as both submitted books that were from authors who were not necessarily shared ideologies and would have been books liberals would have accepted if they didn't have the knee jerk "Vox Said it was good so it must be bad."

Blogger Zimri May 16, 2015 12:46 PM  

Sad Puppies didn't do that because Sad Puppies is engaged in an argument. Rabid (not Rabbit) Puppies is different; Rabid Puppies is engaged in a war.

Anonymous BigGaySteve May 16, 2015 12:56 PM  

Have not seen it, will not watch it until the Mystry Science Theater 3000 guys make a Rifftrax of it.

Would've LOVED to see someone make Twilight or Fifty Shades without a straight white cismale lead

We already had 50 shades of %&*$#, OJ, Ray RIce, Mayweather & Tyson. Twilight was a choice between bestiality & necrophilia

Charlize's character being the protagonist, and the film named after her~ so how did she get the furry road nickname?

"they could not win without the men...particularly Max..." Yea they could only take on 12 guys twice their mass at once without him not 13.

Not sure who to believe. I want to see it and I want it to be good, but I don't want to hand Hollywood my money if it's SJW crap.

People can watch the same thing and see different things there is a video called "little boy talks about gay marriage" that went viral for a while. The part of my brain that used to scream ghetto lottery noticed some inconvenient things about the video that were not welcomed. For instance the bathtub and sink make it obvious that they gay couple corralled & cornered someone else's little boy into a bathroom to film him, and when the boy tried to get away you can tell the guy off screen moved to block. him.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SvCvvEbWR8

"White S.A mercenaries are in Kenya as successful attack dogs against Boko Haram/ ?"

Attack at night with night vision when no guards are awake is slightly more effective tactics than delivering bottles of Rum with sprigs of hemlock in them.

Anonymous x May 16, 2015 1:01 PM  

"That's how culture wars work. Like it or not."

It is the SJW way to control what people watch, read or feel.

My response to them and you is FUCK OFF... don't tell me what to do faggot.

Anonymous Scintan May 16, 2015 1:02 PM  

Culture war doesn't mean rejecting everything the enemy accepts. For one that gives to much power to the enemy to direct your actions. Sad/Rabbit Puppies didn't do that as both submitted books that were from authors who were not necessarily shared ideologies and would have been books liberals would have accepted if they didn't have the knee jerk "Vox Said it was good so it must be bad."

Don't be purposefully stupid. The SJWs boycotted Ender's War because of the author of the book it was based upon. The SJWs coordinated a campaign to destroy the Sad Puppies with lies at mainstream media outlets. The SJWs slandered a man who's married to a black woman, calling him a racist with nothing remotely approaching evidence. The SJWs were threatening not to renew SFWA memberships is Vox wasn't given the boot.

For the SJWs, the culture war means precisely what you claim it doesn't. Don't take it from us, though, take it from Marcuse:

"Liberating tolerance, then, would mean intolerance against movements from the Right and toleration of movements from the Left."

Anonymous Aeoli Pera May 16, 2015 1:06 PM  

Curious parallel between this urge to deceive their way to pushing an ideology in our faces, and sexual exhibitionism. Hollywood is like Roulette Chat: sells you on interesting new experiences- turns out most cultural marxists just want an audience while they whack off.

Blogger Zimri May 16, 2015 1:07 PM  

x, no-one is "controlling" you. Well, excepting maybe some of my Tribal cousins, sure; but their mindrays are telling you to watch this SJW epic. (I hear that tinfoil helps for that.)

The people here when they say "don't watch it" lack our radio bases in Haifa, so they cannot compel you to do jack shit. All they, and we, can do is to advise you - that if you see the movie in the cinema, you'll be out some cash and that much dumber. Wait for the library to get it and borrow it for free.

Anonymous pdimov May 16, 2015 1:08 PM  

Culture war doesn't mean rejecting everything the enemy accepts.

It means rejecting everything they want you to accept. It means making their message toxic. It means making them toxic. If the hint of any kind of SJW message is enough to sink a movie, there will be no SJW messages in movies.

For one that gives to much power to the enemy to direct your actions.

In theory. Never happens in practice. They are not that sophisticated.

Anonymous Joe Author May 16, 2015 1:11 PM  

“They are very rarely the exact movie that the director wants.”

There will always be alterations to the script, being mindful that the audience, men and women, need to be engaged. But, ultimately, it is George’s handiwork. He certainly doesn’t need anyone tell him directly or indirectly what he should or should not create.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales May 16, 2015 1:13 PM  

@S1AL

You're... really stupid aren't you? If you bothered to click the link to the article Vox linked to, you'd know that the author DID see the fucking movie, and that it was exactly like the trailer hinted at, you idiot.

Anonymous Joe Author May 16, 2015 1:17 PM  

“It means rejecting everything they want you to accept. It means making their message toxic. It means making them toxic. If the hint of any kind of SJW message is enough to sink a movie, there will be no SJW messages in movies.”

[Sniff, sniff, sniff] Smells like gatekeeping to me.


Write what you want. Read what you want. Create what you want.

Anonymous vales3 #295 May 16, 2015 1:35 PM  

It was just a bad movie, period. A bit less horrible than Avengers Age Of Ultron. I'll never get those hours of my life back unfortunately.

Blogger collisioncat67 May 16, 2015 1:43 PM  

Wow, a slicker, more expensive, soulless and stupider version of the original and, too an extent, second Mad Max films....

...and with alpha warrior wimyns fighting off the hords of post-oppocalyptic zombie/savages (with a bit of assistance from orbiting beta men)!

Gotta see it! Got...to......see.........(snooooore).

Blogger James Dixon May 16, 2015 1:52 PM  

> Not sure who to believe. I want to see it and I want it to be good, but I don't want to hand Hollywood my money if it's SJW crap.

Seriously? It'll be all over the streaming sits and Bittorrent. If you want to go the legal route see if your local library will have it in their video section.

> When there are good books to read, why would any man ever watch any Girls Kick Butt movie?

Hey, the Power Puff girls are OK.

Anonymous BigGaySteve May 16, 2015 1:52 PM  

x, no-one is "controlling" you. Well, excepting maybe some of my Tribal cousins, sure; but their mindrays are telling

I fear x may be an ex of someone here >.>

Blogger S1AL May 16, 2015 1:58 PM  

@Emmanuel Mateo-Morales - Really? He saw the movie BEFORE even the critical showings? That's pretty impressive. I recommend you reread the article and find the point where he said he saw the movie. I'll give you a hint: it's right next to Santa Claus.

But you keep on keeping on there, hombre.

Anonymous Scintan May 16, 2015 2:17 PM  


There will always be alterations to the script, being mindful that the audience, men and women, need to be engaged. But, ultimately, it is George’s handiwork. He certainly doesn’t need anyone tell him directly or indirectly what he should or should not create.

Now you're just falling back on a straw man. Nobody here, at least from what I've read, has told George what he should, or should not, create.

Anonymous ZT May 16, 2015 2:22 PM  

Zimri, mea culpa on the rabbit / rabid thing, I can only claim android auto correct failed me.

I agree in engaging in war but that does not mean letting the enemy dictate you moves with simple reverse psycology.

Anonymous Wyrd May 16, 2015 2:41 PM  

I'm laughing at the image of grown men (presumably) quoting Bible verses in comments section and weeping. Dumb hicks. Too funny.

May God soften your hard heart if that is His will.

Anonymous BGS May 16, 2015 2:45 PM  

If any of you rabbits are still defending the movie you can see the gaypatriot review http://www.gaypatriot.net/2015/05/14/sjws-turn-mad-max-movie-into-feminist-propaganda/
" Still, if you have hankering to have feminist propaganda hammered into you in all its misandist glory, a $10 movie ticket is cheaper than a semester at any university."

Blogger Cail Corishev May 16, 2015 2:51 PM  

Have not seen it, will not watch it until the Mystery Science Theater 3000 guys make a Rifftrax of it.

Sounds like it should be good fodder.

3: Need for males (Max and Nux) to fix almost everything (Nux was pretty much Furiosa's mechanical equal on fixing the war machine)

I don't know that logical distinctions like these matter to the question of whether a work bolsters feminism. Some careful viewers might see that the story contradicts the feminist gospel in ten different places, but the mainstream audience just sees: "Hot chick! Shooting guys! Fighting! Pulling one-liners like Clint or Sly! Saving the day! You go girl, women really can do it all!"

Blogger Cail Corishev May 16, 2015 2:53 PM  

Write what you want. Read what you want. Create what you want.

Except when someone wants to create an edited-down, tighter version of something, right, Gatekeeper Joe?

Anonymous Varenius May 16, 2015 2:59 PM  

That trailer alone was enough reason not to see it.

The fact that the movie exists at all is enough reason not to see it. The trilogy was closed off perfectly by Beyond Thunderdome. Unless you can surpass it -- very unlikely -- why even attempt another Mad Max movie? It's inevitably going to be yet another stale rehash.

Blogger Cail Corishev May 16, 2015 3:04 PM  

The people here when they say "don't watch it" lack our radio bases in Haifa, so they cannot compel you to do jack shit. All they, and we, can do is to advise you

Exactly. "Don't watch it" means, "I recommend that you don't watch it." What's wrong with sharing an opinion?

Besides, "Don't watch it" should be everyone's default for everything that comes out of Hollywood. While they occasionally produce something of quality, most of it is dreck -- often offensive, corrupting dreck -- so the standard should be not to watch unless you're given reason to think a show is an exception. Is there a reason to think this movie is an exception?

Blogger Kryten 2X4B 523P May 16, 2015 3:13 PM  

Yeah, seen it, Honestly, dont bother.

Extremely generic post apocalyptic plot, Max was basically reduced to a bit part for the whole movie. You could have replaced him with #genericactionhero121 and it still would have worked. It wasn't overly feminist, per se - I thought it was just more gynocentric than anything else. Good way to kill the franchise.

If I actually paid for my movie tickets I would be highly pissed off.

Anonymous ZT May 16, 2015 3:19 PM  

@Call Corishev,
I don't know that logical distinctions like these matter to the question of whether a work bolsters feminism. Some careful viewers might see that the story contradicts the feminist gospel in ten different places, but the mainstream audience just sees: "Hot chick! Shooting guys! Fighting! Pulling one-liners like Clint or Sly! Saving the day! You go girl, women really can do it all!"

That is a fair argument to make. When it comes to books or movies many things can be left to interpretation, logic be damned.
Women has gun, shoots guy, kills guy. If that is all the is needed to define "feminist empowerment" then we should stop telling women to arm themselves so they can defend themselves against big bad mean men because we don't want them to be feminists.

I am not going to let Feminists dictate what I can and cannot do simple because they think something is "feminist" or not. I will teach my daughters how to use a gun because they cannot physically match males and that may be the only way they can keep safe. If that is "pro feminist" then you are painting with a very large brush. I don't care what Feminist think, they are idiots most of the time. (Camlle Paglia being a notable exception), so why would I take much of anything they say as truth before deciding for myself.

Blogger Cee May 16, 2015 3:40 PM  

For the sake of disclosure: if the world were to go to shit, what sort of small band of completely insane and completely dangerous animals would you put together? Would you roam the countryside inspiring offroad terror? Would you dominate weekly fights in the Pits? What would be your purpose?

Are you asking Vox to make a Pokémon team?

Anonymous BGS May 16, 2015 3:41 PM  

Well it turns out SJWs hated Fast&Furious 7 because of individualism, family

http://www.bworldonline.com/content.php?section=Opinion&title=FAST-DECLINE-OF-POSTWAR-AMERICA-&-FURIOUS-DESIRE-TO-CLING-TO-%E2%80%98FAMILY%E2%80%99&id=107472

"If you want to know where social Marxism (collectivism) is headed, this is it: the labeling of individualistic philosophies as dangerous thought crimes and tribal communities as time bombs waiting to explode in the face of the wider global village. They desperately hope to conquer the world by dictating not only national boundaries and civil liberties, but the very moral code by which society and individuals function. They wish to bypass natural law with fear, fear that the collective will find you abhorrent and barbaric if you do not believe exactly as they believe. Individualism will one day be the new misogyny."
http://www.activistpost.com/2015/05/collectivists-hate-individuality.html#more

Anonymous Joe Author May 16, 2015 3:53 PM  

"Now you're just falling back on a straw man. Nobody here, at least from what I've read, has told George what he should, or should not, create."

I referenced the comment made by pdimov. Besides, is not SWJ material "immoral" and "evil"? Do not Christians have an obligation to ensure that it is eradicated?

Anonymous pdimov May 16, 2015 3:55 PM  

“It means rejecting everything they want you to accept. It means making their message toxic. It means making them toxic. If the hint of any kind of SJW message is enough to sink a movie, there will be no SJW messages in movies.”

[Sniff, sniff, sniff] Smells like gatekeeping to me.


It's the opposite of gatekeeping. Gatekeepers want to push SJW messages. You exert pressure on them to not do that. If you don't, they'll continue to push culture towards the left, bit by bit.

Anonymous NorthernHamlet May 16, 2015 4:16 PM  

Are you asking Vox to make a Pokémon team?

Of course. What else would I have been inquiring about?

Blogger Blume May 16, 2015 4:42 PM  

Why? No one goes to a mad max movie to see anything but a mad max movie. The only start that matters is max, period

Blogger Corvinus May 16, 2015 5:16 PM  

And female Peshmerga snipers may have been doing reasonably well.

@PhilipGeorge
Actually, the reason they have women is that Muslims believe that men who are killed by women go to hell. IOW, for a similar reason there were proposals to have pigs on airplanes.

Tommy Hass may be able to fill us in on more.

Blogger Corvinus May 16, 2015 5:18 PM  

Exactly. "Don't watch it" means, "I recommend that you don't watch it." What's wrong with sharing an opinion?

Besides, "Don't watch it" should be everyone's default for everything that comes out of Hollywood. While they occasionally produce something of quality, most of it is dreck -- often offensive, corrupting dreck -- so the standard should be not to watch unless you're given reason to think a show is an exception. Is there a reason to think this movie is an exception?


@Cail
Yeah, I was pleasantly surprised by "Guardians of the Galaxy", but there's not much that impresses me.

Having Mad Max be a passive blood-donor and Charlize be the lead character completely ruins it for me. I'm not against having female soldiers per se (Tavia in A Fighting Man of Mars is a good classic example), but if they have no trace of femininity besides their figures, it doesn't work.

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Anonymous pseudotsuga* May 16, 2015 5:55 PM  

I wasn't going to pay theater money to see it, anyway. Maybe it'll be out on Netflix later on this year. If there's nothing better on (and there nearly always is) then maybe I'll give it a look. Or I could just watch the Korean film War of the Arrows again.

Blogger rcocean May 16, 2015 5:55 PM  

Some people are addicted to Hollywood crack and don't want to be told to give it up. Hence, the hostility, or in some cases lame attempts to take movies that are pro-feminist or anti-Christian or anti-American and somehow interpret them as pro-Christian or Pro-American. You see, most people see X but if you look at the movie from this angle its really Not X.

Blogger rcocean May 16, 2015 5:58 PM  

Reminds me of a website supposedly viewing film from a Christian perspective. Basically, no matter how anti-Christian, perverted, or raunchy the movie was this Website would always find some hidden "Pro-Christian" message and recommend Christians see the latest Hollywood sludge. Don't know if its still up.

Anonymous Scintan May 16, 2015 6:41 PM  

I referenced the comment made by pdimov. Besides, is not SWJ material "immoral" and "evil"? Do not Christians have an obligation to ensure that it is eradicated?

What he wrote is not what you spoke to in your 'response'. It was another straw man of your creation.

And your second and third sentences are just stupidity on parade.

Anonymous Michael of Charlotte May 16, 2015 6:59 PM  

So, I saw it and I left the movie rather confused. I hadn't seen any of the threads about the movie (I was moving from Alabama back to North Carolina) and here's my take: It was one of the most poorly written movies I've ever seen.

Some slight spoilers.
Charleze's character was terrible. She seemed to have the ultimate goal of escaping and getting back to her people. Yet she takes literally the most prized possessions of the warlord making her escape almost guaranteed to fail. She would have had a much better chance had she sneaked off in the middle of the night or shooting the leadership as was suggested above.

Max's character was also inconsistent. If his goal was to escape and survive. He had several opportunities to pursue this but didn't. I can't tell if he was supposed to be Charleze's orbiter or what. If his character was consistent, she would have died right after the chase through the canyon.

But the worst part of it is the ending; Max has a choice to make and he makes the one that makes no sense what so ever. If he's now seeking redemption, then nope wrong choice. Building a better tomorrow? Nope, chose against that too. Protect women, nope bad choice as well. The only explanation I can come up with is the writer asked, "What would a white knight do right here?" And THAT's the choice Max makes.

I can't really say if it's feminist propaganda or not. It seemed like the men were deferring to every female as much as possible. Once they deferred, the females would show themselves incompetent. So the men would have to guide them to the right choice only to go back to following the women.

In short, this movie is just bad.

Anonymous T14 May 16, 2015 7:36 PM  

It was an absolute riot. Realistic? Thank god no. There was an entire warcar for drummers and a guitarist (the guitar shooting flames for good measure). It most certainly lived up to the telegraph's quote: "Imagine if Cirque du Soleil reenacted a Hieronymus Bosch painting and someone set the theatre on fire." Who cares about plot.

And I certainly won't be taking advice from the dough-bodied transman at Return of Kings.

Anonymous Joe Author May 16, 2015 8:27 PM  

"It's the opposite of gatekeeping. Gatekeepers want to push SJW messages. You exert pressure on them to not do that."

You just described gatekeeping! Do you even know what term observably means--to regulate the flow of information. Efforts to "exert pressure" on SJW's to curtail the stories they want to tell is the essence of gatekeeping.


"If you don't, they'll continue to push culture towards the left, bit by bit."

And if you do, you will continue to push culture towards your designed ends.


"What he wrote is not what you spoke to in your 'response'. It was another straw man of your creation."

Patently false. Pdimov is clearly stating how he intends to limit the creation of SJW material by through "pressure", e.g. making it known to people that "the hint of any kind of SJW message" should be enough to "sink it".

"And your second and third sentences are just stupidity on parade."

Come again? Ok, you're going to have to elaborate. How are these sentences "stupid"? Why would Christians NOT label SJW material "immoral" and "evil", especially if deviant lifestyles are promoted?



Read what you want. Create what you want. Produce what you want.

Blogger Noah B #120 May 16, 2015 8:51 PM  

"Who cares about plot."

They should have used that as their tagline for the movie.

Blogger rcocean May 16, 2015 9:01 PM  

"It was one of the most poorly written movies I've ever seen."

Most Hollywood movies are badly written because their target audience is foreigners and teenagers. Well written English is lost on foreign language audiences - for obvious reasons. Teenagers just want "Cool" special effects and lots of action.

Blogger Zimri May 16, 2015 9:17 PM  

"Charleze's character was terrible. She seemed to have the ultimate goal of escaping and getting back to her people. Yet she takes literally the most prized possessions of the warlord making her escape almost guaranteed to fail. She would have had a much better chance had she sneaked off in the middle of the night or shooting the leadership as was suggested above."

I'm going to defend this much: Furiosa's goal was to escape WITH the warlord's slaves. And she had good military reasons for that: not only are there more women for her own tribe in the green lands, but she gets to make the Immortan look like a schmuck in the process. Thus possibly leading to anarchy amongst her enemies.

Also, she did leave behind one woman, with a gun. Unfortunately for her that woman was talky and didn't get the shot off in time. Sometimes subordinates foul up your plan, especially in suicide missions where they cannot be disciplined after the fact. That is just life though.

Blogger Daniel May 16, 2015 9:18 PM  

Who cares about the plot? Mad Max, The Road Warrior, and Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome. Believe it or not, without the core theme of defending defenseless motherhood running in all three movies, you haven't got Mad Max. Period. The only reason to call Fury Road Mad Max is to sucker people into thinking it is a Mad Max picture.

It is kind of like parody porn for feminists.

Blogger Cee May 16, 2015 9:33 PM  

Of course. What else would I have been inquiring about?

To be honest, I'm not sure anything else fits. I hope he answers.

Blogger Ken May 16, 2015 11:05 PM  

Had a BBQ with one of my church's small groups. Some of the men were talking about how amazing this movie was. Had I not already read this article, I would have still been skeptical, because they also loved "Guardians of the Galaxy," (Which I hated), both of the Amazing Spiderman movies, and openly brag about being feminists. Hell, one of them tried to upbraid me for saying that the Bible calls for the wife to submit to the husband.

In short, I got to avoid another stupid conversation and instead focus on manning the grill. No one left unsatisfied except for the vegetarian.

Blogger fisher man May 16, 2015 11:12 PM  

Visually it is great. It is well edited, and I enjoyed the crazy guitar truck.

Story wise it had me wishing I saw pitch perfect 2.

The feminist stuff did not bother me much, I was more confused about how they got limited slip differentials on these huge ass custom cars built from spare parts.

The world and mythology has the potential to be interesting and deserved to be explored more. That made it disappointing.

Blogger Akulkis May 17, 2015 3:36 AM  

Ken... you need to find a new church.

Anonymous The Abe May 17, 2015 9:10 AM  

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Blogger HickoryHammer #0211 May 17, 2015 4:31 PM  

I LOVE the fact that the SJW brainwashing set flips out when their tarted up movies get called out before they hit the cinema. I was thinking about seeing this too, now I'll skip it for sure.

Roosh gets about one article a month over at ROK that really sets them to frothing. I'm surprised he didn't make it into the Ven Diagram of SJW pain with you.

Blogger Cataline Sergius May 18, 2015 6:37 AM  

If anyone is still reading this thread. It wasn't just us.

Even Andrew Klaven who did see it, says this was propaganda.

The actual MSM shit itself, when it found out our side was recommending a boycott because Mad Max was a feminist Trojan Horse. Even Andrew Klaven who saw it, says this was the case.

Blogger B.J. May 18, 2015 11:44 AM  

The feminist aspects were over hyped by the media. Yeah, it shows a brutal dictator who treats women (and men) like property. But it also shows women as being either competent yet outclassed by men or completely worthless. Theron's character is improbably badass but she still need's Max's and Nux's help to get anywhere.

I saw a lot of red-pill-ish stuff there too. One of the abducted wives kept wanting to go back, preferring submission to an alpha male instead of the harsh life of freedom and self-reliance. The movie also makes certain to point out that the War Boys are worse off than the women, living a life of forced labor and disposable cannon fodder.

Blogger Marissa May 18, 2015 11:53 AM  

The worst part of the movie is that there is no motivation for why Max and Furiosa do what they do. There's hardly any character development. There's no explanation why Furiosa is driving the warlord's best war machine. No explanation of who Max is or why he does what he does (just a stupid flashback of a little girl that keeps popping up).

Blogger CarpeOro May 18, 2015 5:56 PM  

"I want Lucifer's Hammer in movie form. "

A great book, with plenty of good parts. It would deserve at least 5 hours to be covered properly, but the build up and science would leave a lot of people bored. Having read it a couple of times (maybe time to do so again), I appreciated the opening part more than many non-Ilk would.

Blogger Leatherwing May 19, 2015 8:07 AM  

I went to see it. Not horrible, not great. Mindless entertainment.

But why has no one mentioned the blatant Vox Day ripoff performed by Vin Diesel in the preview for the Last Witch Hunter. VD imitates VD by holding a FLAMING SWORD. Also has shaved head. Complete ripoff. John Scalzi was seen running from the theater in fear that he'd been found.

See it here. VD with sword at 1:10 mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVTKKAb982Y

Anonymous idprism July 20, 2016 4:28 PM  

i apologize for thread rez, if anybody gets notified here. i saw the film a year later, and it seems to me that all women with a modicum of agency in the film unwittingly destroy the world itself.
immortan joe is, despite his cultish and authoritarian tendencies, actually attempting to rebuild society by
1) breeding healthy humans
2) rationing water such that the resource is not overburdened
3) creating/refining fuel for vehicles & machinery
4) creating/recycling metal into guns/bullets/machinery for self-defense and potentially raiding and building
5) creating a militaristic structure which can be used to collect and distribute resources -- especially to the new (healthy) humans that may be the successful results of the breeding program

the women with agency, primarily the mothers and furiosa
1) used to have green lands, but let them wither and die
2) convince women who are allocated resources and safety in order to breed healthy humans that they are better off in a place where they will not be given resources and safety (further, the destination society has no way to breed healthy humans)
3) always abandon bad (or even disadvantageous) situations, instead of problem solving, negotiating, fighting/defending, or otherwise facing the problem head-on.

** spoiler alert **


at the end of the movie the same women who have been shown time and again to destroy any progress toward a rebuilt civilization throughout the movie gain control of the resources that have been built and preserved by the alpha male immortan joe. of course, the story is unfinished here, but it would take a miraculous leap of logic not to assume that these resources, like all others which have been squandered under their stewardship (including the five wives), will not survive very long into the future.

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