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Sunday, May 17, 2015

The common factor

XDPaul points out that the parties responsible for what the Worldcon community is lamenting are not either the Sad or Rabid Puppies:
This is supposed to be a literary award, not playground taunts and bullying

If that was generally understood Sad Puppies would’ve never happened in the first place!

Exactly.

Scalzi should never have – unprovoked – called that guy he didn’t know a “a jackass, and a fairly ignorant jackass at that” in order to curry favor with established authors. All of this could have been prevented, had Scalzi not turned fandom into his private personal playground specially designed for these taunts and bullying of which you complain.

Taunts, bullying…and awards-gathering, of course. I know, let’s call it “Your Hate Mail Will Be Graded,” that epic scholarly work so highly regarded in the annals of SF.

If you want to condemn the one who set this all off, I think the former President of the SFWA, initial taunter, rape humorist, “easiest difficulty setting there is,” master of the recommendation list, and award-winning Professional Fan Writer John Scalzi is not a bad place to look.
Everyone here knows why I went to the trouble of getting John Scalzi's traffic statistics and unmasking him as the liar and fraud that he is. Perhaps fewer understand why Larry Correia is no fonder of the little charlatan, but Steve Moss explains:
 From what I can determine,the Corriea-Scalzi feud started as follows:
1. Ms. USA makes comments about women’s self-defense.
2. Corriea supports her comments.
3. Jim Hines’ criticizes Ms. USA and Corriea, in not too pleasant terms.
4. Corriea pins Hines’ ears back.
5. Scalzi goes after Corriea, and is his usually condescending and insulting self.
6. Scalzi gets his butt kicked in the Twitter exchange.
7. Many hot tempered words follow for the next 2-3 years year, with no sign of abating.
And then, of course, I would be remiss if I failed to recall this hilarious exchange:
John Scalzi ‏@scalzi Apr 8
I wish Larry Corriea had the balls to admit the reason he started the Sad Puppies campaign was that he just wanted a Hugo so fucking bad.
45 retweets 66 favorites

Larry Correia @monsterhunter45
I turned down my Hugo nomination and you still didn't make the ballot.
360 retweets 501 favorites
The post-Loncon period in which McRapey repeated the very sort of falsehoods that the International Lord of Hate predicted the SJWs would attempt to put forth also merits mention. Meanwhile, Hugo nominee Kary English notes that the self-proclaimed inclusivity crowd has been more than a little bit hostile to outsiders, even to the point of harassing us with violent language.

"I’ve pretty much lost count of all the times I’ve seen someone say the Puppies should be shot, euthanized, put down, drowned, etc. It’s not cool. It’s not acceptable"

Perhaps someone should enquire of Sasquan if people who have harassed Hugo nominees in such violent fashion will be banned from the con, as I expect such statements are likely in clear violation of their Harassment Code. And finally, we have more evidence of the oft-observed truism; SJWs always lie:
Owlmirror on May 16, 2015 at 9:43 pm said:

    Scalzi should never have – unprovoked – called that guy he didn’t know a “a jackass, and a fairly ignorant jackass at that”

You mean VD’s anti-Semitism and misogyny don’t count as provocation?

    All of this could have been prevented, had Scalzi not turned fandom into his private personal playground specially designed for these taunts and bullying of which you complain.

You mean, VD would have not taunted and bullied anyone if not for Scalzi? What about the fact that he taunted and bullied women SF writers in the first place?
Yes, nonexistent anti-Semitism and misogyny don't count as provocation, for the obvious reason that they do not exist. Nor does a single column addressing an attack on a disease-stricken Michael Kinsley by Susan Estrich and explaining the toxic effect of feminism on female intellects qualify as taunting and bullying women SF writers.

It's fascinating to see how the SJWs resolutely refuse to see the obvious and recongize the single common factor in everything from award campaigning and pro Fan Writers to the culture war and the increased incivility in SF. This is particularly obvious once you take into account that I was an SFWA member participating in various events and activities without incident for seven years prior to McRapey first surfacing in the SF community.

However, the most interesting bit in the comments might have been easily missed, as Mike Glyer raised one of the few relevant points to be found amidst the lunatic sea of SJW rhetoric:
“How many conservatives have won the Hugo in the past 2 decades again?”

I just did a count and found 19 Hugos have been won by conservatives since 1996.
The determination of who is and who is not a conservative may be arbitrary, but as Mike has shown himself to be impartial throughout, there is no reason to quibble over it. This means that out of the approximately 304 266 Hugo Awards* that have been given out since 1996, only 7.1 percent have gone to conservatives. It will probably surprise no one here to learn that this factual observation of extreme left-wing bias in science fiction fandom was immediately met with the suggestion that conservatives simply aren't very good at writing science fiction and fantasy.

"It could be just that Conservatives are not (at the present) very good at creating art.... Certainly (some) Conservative art in the PAST was good. Maybe there is something about the current Conservative movement which curtails their ability to create art? IDK."

That could be. Or, you know, perhaps there is something to the assertion that nearly every single right-of-center author, male and female alike, has made about aggressive left-wing ideological gatekeeping in science fiction and fantasy. After all, the mere possibility that a few more right-of-center authors might win a Hugo has not only prompted a hate campaign in the international media, but open calls for changing the rules.

*This is a correction. I originally multiplied the number of years by the number of awards given out in 2014, but fewer awards were given in previous years.

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79 Comments:

Anonymous Clay May 17, 2015 6:15 AM  

I have some errands I need to run....not trying to be an asshole, but when will the Voxiversity begin...CST?

Thanks.

Anonymous Clay May 17, 2015 6:27 AM  

BTW....as far as squirrels, or tree rats, are they are known here,

I've developed an Urban Hunter thing around these parts. Me, and my Gamo ,177 will take care of your problems. I only accept cash.

Quietly, and no mess.

Blogger VD May 17, 2015 6:52 AM  

It's already up.

Anonymous zen0 May 17, 2015 6:53 AM  

Geez Clay, don't harass the man. Part of Voxiversity is sitting quietly at your desk with your hands behind your back. Strict discipline is a basis for all military action.

Blogger JACIII May 17, 2015 7:15 AM  

They shot at one (figuratively) troll and all of Mordor has descended upon them.

What's got their minds really bent is that they have fired everything in their little quivers to no effect. Marking someone with one or more of their "other" categories is their tried and true daily enforcement method. (Airball - didn't even touch the rim) Expulsion from the warren is their nuclear option. There can be no coming back from that.

Oh..... wait,

For them, The Puppies are the zombie apocalypse. And unlike the Dread Ilk, they haven't spent decades salivating at its promise of pandemonium.

Blogger VD May 17, 2015 7:19 AM  

It's so funny the way they keep doubling and redoubling down on disapproval and shame. WE HATE YOU. ALSO DESPISE YOU. ADORABLE! YOU LIE! ARISTOTLE! OUT OF CONTEXT! WE REALLY REALLY HATE YOU.

To which the response is always the same: we don't care.

Anonymous Clay May 17, 2015 7:31 AM  

I hate you Vox...because of the words you used in your last post, I'm going to have to go the Casino(s) in Vicksburg. luckily, I can be comped.

Blogger JACIII May 17, 2015 7:31 AM  

I have to admit to caring, VD. My day would not be complete with out a rabbit tear martini:

1) Fill glass with three parts Rabbit Tears: One part Rabbit Venom
2) dip finger in Rabbit Blood and wipe rim.
3) hold the olive.

Blogger Bradly Hogland May 17, 2015 7:38 AM  

it was Scalzi's taunting and condescension that enraged me to the point of fighting back and becoming a rabid puppy. I'm not a true fan in their eyes despite the fact I buy enough sci-fi books inn a month that I have it budgeted. He brought their castles of straws down around them. Especially if more people read "Awake in the Night Land" & "Big Boys Don't Cry" to see the real quality writing that never gets mentioned or reviewed.

Blogger HickoryHammer #0211 May 17, 2015 7:53 AM  

They picked a fight, through which they shall learn the true definition of the world regret. They will be cast out.

Anonymous p-dawg May 17, 2015 8:05 AM  

I think all of the objections of the SJWs boil down to one heartfelt plea: "Stop winning!"

Blogger Salt May 17, 2015 8:31 AM  

Or, you know, perhaps there is something to the assertion that...

Yup. Just like McRapey. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, sounds like a duck... it's a duck.

Blogger Joel #0164 May 17, 2015 9:28 AM  

It will probably surprise no one here to learn that this factual observation of extreme left-wing bias in science fiction fandom was immediately met with the suggestion that conservatives simply aren't very good at writing science fiction and fantasy.

As opposed to when nonwhites or women are underrepresented in something, which is always a sure sign of racism/sexism based discrimination. Funny how that works.

Blogger grendel May 17, 2015 9:30 AM  

Conservatives: terrible at writing tranny molester fic since 1996.

Anonymous jack May 17, 2015 9:58 AM  

With the thumb nail sketch of the genesis of the McRapy/Vox/Coreia dustup above I do believe that this movement of troops and directed fire is getting to that, what was the German word for it?, primary point of tension or attack.
As the old Rhodesian forces used to say, the stick of troops has cover fired the cover away and is starting to walk through the entrenched ambush. And, the badly trained Terrs are starting to scatter. If they are smart enough to look for survival.

Yeah, bourbon time; screw the popcorn....

Blogger Elocutioner0226 May 17, 2015 10:29 AM  

So, 19 wins over 20 years. What's that, like three or four Scalzi's? Riiiight...

I can't seem to find a current tally of the number of wins by author/editor, but I did run across this piece in The Guardian from a few years back. Is it just me or is the tone of the piece just a tad different than the one they ran after the finalists were announced?

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/mar/31/seanan-mcguire-hugo-awards-shortlist

Anonymous Randall May 17, 2015 10:31 AM  

It could be that right-of-center SF/F authors are more interested in exploring and communicating big ideas, whereas left-of-center SF/F authors are more interested in exploring and communicating their aberrant sexual philias. The latter do not understand the former, and the former are disgusted by the latter. The latter's response is: "Get out of our den!. You're ruining our orgasm."

Blogger Nate May 17, 2015 10:42 AM  

I have to talk issue here with the specific claims XDpaul has made if not the general premise.

I do not doubt the claim that Scalzi is the source of the controversy in the SF community in terms of stirring up in-fighting. The fact is I watched it happen live. Back in 2005? 2006? I remember the in-group debates about what was and was not hard sci-fi... and VDs assertion that in general women didn't write it and didn't want to write it. And I remember Scalzi's initially civil disagreements. And I remember how those initially civil disagreements changed.

However it is more than a little unfair, and outright ignorant, to assert that Sad Puppies and Rabid Puppies are the result of feuds with Scalzi.

To my understanding Sad Puppies 1 predates The Correia vs Scalzi feud. And Rabid Puppies is not a reaction to the specific VD vs Scalzi feud... but a reaction to the false claims made about VD and the Dread Ilk during the 2014 Sad Puppies II campaign.

The fact is... if john scalzi didn't exist... Sad Puppies would still have happened... and its fairly safe to assume that Rabid Puppies would've come into existence as well.

Blogger Michael Maier May 17, 2015 10:51 AM  

Vox, so you're that a cowardly, child-molestation-supporting, effeminate, physically-pathetic, snarky little bitch like John Scalzi has turned SFpublishing into a circle-stroking sewing circle of vicious harpies?

How could such a slug-like mid-wit even accomplish such a thing?

Blogger Augustus Octavian May 17, 2015 10:52 AM  

> was immediately met with the suggestion that conservatives simply aren't very good at writing science fiction and fantasy.

Yes, or maybe lefties are tribalists who will promoted their in-group over people with icky out-group belief systems. We've seen something similar with the indie games scene where awards, accolades and a place in the spotlight are handed out by a circle of journalists, investors and "veterans".

Blogger Danby May 17, 2015 10:52 AM  

@Nate,
I'll agree that he reaction would have come sooner or later. But historically, Scalzi is specifically the person who insisted on picking at the scab, exiling his rivals, gloating when he won, and insulting his opponents.

Being the lying nasty passive aggressive little shit that he is, he couldn't be a man about any of it.

"If Scalzi did not exist, the puppies would have had to invent him."
Except that the Ilk know their enemy. All of them are Scalzis.

Blogger VD May 17, 2015 10:55 AM  

However it is more than a little unfair, and outright ignorant, to assert that Sad Puppies and Rabid Puppies are the result of feuds with Scalzi.

To be sure. SP1 had nothing to do with Scalzi. Neither did SP2. And there was an effective truce between Scalzi and me from 2006 through 2010. But I doubt the reaction to SP2 would have been so vicious had Scalzi not whipped up SFWA against me in 2013, and RP would not have existed if I hadn't been accused of gaming the system in 2014.

Blogger Michael Maier May 17, 2015 10:57 AM  

This means that out of the approximately 304 266 Hugo Awards* that have been given out since 1996, only 7.1 percent have gone to conservatives.

7.1% when half the country is conservative... that's only a factor of 7 out of skew with the general population, right?

What's the beef?

Anonymous d12 May 17, 2015 10:57 AM  

we don't care.

clearly

Anonymous Daniel #0189 May 17, 2015 10:58 AM  

Nate, the first two lines are actually quotes of the conversation between a concerned person and an SJW. The rest of it is addressing the "playground bullying" environment of fandom in general, not the origin of Sad Puppies.

The playground bullying thing has its origins with Scalzi, who has positioned himself as a bridge between the warring factions of Racefail 09, and dragged Vox into fandom issues by attacking Vox unprovoked to boost himself in the eyes of other authors.

Basically there were two factions in fandom well before Sad Puppies: SJWs, who shamed the traditional progressive faction into submission, in 2009, by screaming "racist!" and "privilege!" to the rafters. That's why you saw the slow degeneration of the Nebulas collapse into full SJW-mode.

SP is what always happens when the Left has cleared the field for nothing but cannibals. Good conservatives attempt to restore order. Bad "conservatives" piss everyone off by doing the job right.

SP would never have happened if those pre-existing cultures had not been a) so exclusive and b) started open hate campaigns.

Blogger Tommy Hass May 17, 2015 10:59 AM  

Conservatives won few awards because they aren't very good.

Neither are darkies, wimmin and other assorted groups.

Anonymous Daniel #0189 May 17, 2015 11:00 AM  

Basically, Nate, an SJW was saying that Sad Puppies invented bullying, were the original bullies, and wouldn't exist if playground bullying wasn't a thing.

The truth is obviously quite the opposite.

Blogger Nate May 17, 2015 11:11 AM  

"But I doubt the reaction to SP2 would have been so vicious had Scalzi not whipped up SFWA against me in 2013, and RP would not have existed if I hadn't been accused of gaming the system in 2014."

Sure... but even if you were not The Supreme Dark Lord there is no doubt you would've supported Larry's Sad Puppies.

If I were guessing... I would say if Scalzi hadn't been Scalzi... Jim Hines would have. Possibly the two fed off each other and were braver for their own company. And if you were still in the SFWA... Larry putting you on Sad Puppies II is still going to cause the same reaction.

Look at how they reacted to guess far left of you who just happened to be against gay marriage.

There was never not going to be outrage with you on the Hugo.

No... there is no path where the Dread Ilk don't take over the Hugo Awards. Maybe it wouldn't have been in 2015... maybe it wouldn't have had a separate slate... but it there is no doubt it was going to happen. Every road lead to the same place.

Blogger VD May 17, 2015 11:12 AM  

I'll post it later, but I've run the numbers. Conservatives are underrepresented in the Hugo Awards by a factor of 11.3. The problem of anti-right wing bias at WorldCon is 5.6 times greater than the problem of sexism about which we have heard so much.

Blogger Nate May 17, 2015 11:19 AM  

Ya know how the most damning evidence against he Hugo process is?

Man-kzin has never won anything.

Anonymous Winner May 17, 2015 11:33 AM  

What makes most of us amused is the ongoing claim of a culture war. It's as though the poodles think they have a battle to figh when in fact they lost the battles and the war to common sense, rationalism and righteousness years ago.

Let's call the poodles and their ILL what they are: the poor warriors defending their island years after the war ended.

Blogger James Dixon May 17, 2015 11:35 AM  

> How could such a slug-like mid-wit even accomplish such a thing?

Scalzi is nowhere near that capable. He merely took advantage of existing conditions. If it hadn't been him it would have been someone else.. But it was him, so...

Blogger James Dixon May 17, 2015 11:36 AM  

> It's as though the poodles think they have a battle to figh when in fact they lost the battles and the war to common sense, rationalism and righteousness years ago.

Silly rabbit, we have not yet begun to fight. You think you won a war when the other side was too busy with their lives to even notice you. Now we have.

Anonymous Winner May 17, 2015 11:44 AM  

James....you've not yet begun to fight? Shit, that's even funnier. What us gonna do? Call everyone SJW EVEN LOUDER?

Man the Barricades!!!!

Anonymous Daniel #0189 May 17, 2015 11:46 AM  

Scalzi is actually a pretty good spin doctor, and can affect a fairly amiable persona for short bursts of time: long enough for the SJWs and SJW-fearful factions alike to agree that he could bridge the two. That's why he shoots guns, writes lite mil-SF and occasionally opts out on twitter vacations to avoid particularly hazardous SJW issues (the ones a full-blood SJW leads).

Scalzi's special purpose is that of tweener. He shuttles between SJWs and "traditional" non-SJW Progressives to keep the peace and reap the awards. Problem: His sales decline and the fact that the differences between the Progs and SJWs is increasingly seismic.

In any case, he was, for about a decade- the man of the bottom quote: his tastes were in perfect harmony with the eroding detente between SJWs and Progs. Thus, "lowest difficulty" vs. "being poor" and "I'm a rapist" vs. "raise pledges for RAINN" "Old Man's War" vs. "Zoe's Tale" vs. gender-free "Lock-In."

The problem for him is that tastes are changing, and he doesn't know how to switch. Thus, contract end, blog abandonment, failed game writer gig etc.

He's a man slowly being reduced to subtweeting and television.

Blogger maniacprovost May 17, 2015 11:52 AM  

You appear to badly misunderstand the nature of war, loser. That is good.

Blogger Danby May 17, 2015 11:58 AM  

@Whinner
jo, what's happened is that you've cleared our field of fire.With your having driven your natural allies, the Liberals, and even most of our theoretical allies, the Conservatives, off the field, we no longer have to worry about collateral damage, target acquisition is dead easy. We've even made allies with many on the middle-Left, which is supposed to be impossible by your play book.

We've got all the honest, decent people on our side. I know that looks like a numerical advantage to you, but you have 3 problems. Your weapons don't hurt us, and are becoming gradually less effective on others. You are incapable of recruiting anyone but brittle narcissistic sexual freak shows and gammas to your cause. We know your tactics like the back of our hands.
Exclusion
Shaming
Claiming your victory is inevitable, or even already here
Appeals to coercive authority
Shutuppery
Adamantine refusal to hear what is being said
False claims of injury.

We have one tactic. We don't care.

Your pain and frustration amuses us. It is literally what is driving the response. We say things, horrible things, just to watch you freak out about them. You guys could win this if you could shut up for even a few days, but you are completely incapable of it.Every shrieking meltdown, every pretty rainbow-haired brony princess pirouette turn here in the comments, every outright denial of what is blatantly happening garners us more recruits.

So fuck you, why don't you go down to the playground and look some children to molest?

Blogger S1AL May 17, 2015 12:05 PM  

The degree of "nobody I know" in the F770 threads is fascinating to me. I don't know if it's just the graying of fandom, if the people commenting there are really that insular, or it's straight dishonesty; I'd guess some combination. But the readiness to take ANY remark and twist it around and the incessant probing for "aha gotcha!" moments amuses me to no end.

Blogger J Thomas May 17, 2015 12:08 PM  

So if you guys didn't know already, the band Demon Hunter has provided your theme song of "We Don't Care". And the icon is very appropriate for the dark Lord of Evil: http://youtu.be/cSsaePm6qOA

Blogger VD May 17, 2015 12:12 PM  

Obvious, you are banned. It doesn't matter if you dissent or if you bow down and genuflect before me, because all of your comments will be deleted no matter what you write.

Blogger Danby May 17, 2015 12:17 PM  

Obvious, we hardly knew ye. Mostly because I was afraid you might try to touch me.

Anonymous Imnobody May 17, 2015 12:35 PM  

@Whiner
"James....you've not yet begun to fight? Shit, that's even funnier. What us gonna do? Call everyone SJW EVEN LOUDER?"

You have to be patient with Whiner. He is the product of school and media indoctrination. This has harmed his reading skills, such as when he doesnt realize that James was referring to the before-puppies past. The meaning is clear if you read the sentence in context (even for a people who doesn't speak English like me) but these times the products of the educational system cannot process more than one word at a time.


In addition, the guy equates war with labelling SJW as SJW . Such a wuss. I guess he gets terribly upset when somebody labels him with an adjective. He shits on his pants and rus to his mommy/comforting group: "he has throw a nuke to me, boo. It's the war, mommy, give me a hug"

Blogger Nate May 17, 2015 12:43 PM  

I love the far left claims that the war is over. Which is why Chic-fil-e is out of business... The Robertsons have lost everything... and Gawker and Kotaku are earning millions in ad revenue.

Fools.

You were the idiot snot nosed 17 year old punks acting like assholes in the diner... and getting away with it... because common folks were to decent to punch you in the face for it.

You mistook that decency for cowardice... and decided you were in fact the truly powerful ones.

You were wrong. You were guests. tolerated guests living only on the charity of others.

Now that charity is gone.

And you will be as well.

Blogger rcocean May 17, 2015 12:47 PM  

"Scalzi is actually a pretty good spin doctor, and can affect a fairly amiable persona for short bursts of time"

Actually he's a terrible spin doctor. He never understands that by trying to be "ambiguous" and play both sides - at times - he ends up being even more despised then if he'd just play it straight. Its not just that he's a SJW, its that he's a gutless, two-faced SJW, who launches attacks and then tries to issue "ambiguous" make-up comments. His comments on politics are typical of him. He's simply a standard liberal democrat, but he tries to make himself out to be some sort of special snowflake independent, who's given money to Republicans for Goodness sakes and gosh would actually vote for a Republican if blah, blah, blah. All crouched, of course, in dishonest, coded words, that indicate its all BS.

Blogger Danby May 17, 2015 12:48 PM  

"...you've not yet begun to fight? Shit, that's even funnier. What us gonna do? Call everyone SJW EVEN LOUDER?"

Kick your ass and take your stuff. Try and stop us.

Blogger rcocean May 17, 2015 12:52 PM  

I have to admit that I'm allergic to guys like Scalzi. I don't like teenage snark, and like it even less when it comes from a full-grown 40 y/o man. Also, I dislike people who constantly load their writings with weasel words, escape hatches, and "ambiguous" language. His big fear seems to be writing something that clear and definite so that someone can attack him. Plus, his target audience seems to be the 3 Gs - Gays, Girls, and Gammas. Which leaves me out.

Blogger James Dixon May 17, 2015 12:53 PM  

> What us gonna do? Call everyone SJW EVEN LOUDER?

Oh, that's only the beginning. We're merely the vanguard. You will be exposed, one by one. Your perversions will be exposed, one by one. And the reaction of the majority of society will make what we do look like a Sunday picnic. We're straws showing which way the wind blows, and as it blows us, it forms a word. That word is doom.

Blogger Cail Corishev May 17, 2015 1:16 PM  

If it hadn't been him it would have been someone else..

Yes. They have to have some (relatively) capable people on their side to provide leadership and organizational skills, and those are likely to be white men, of course. In this context, that means they have to have at least some writers who are capable of writing books that can sell some copies and not look like obvious jokes when they get awards, to supply cover for the obvious joke awards. They can't all write odes to lizard lovers.

They also like to have some white men handy for when it's time for a purge. Women and even minorities can be purged, but not as often and it's much more tricky. When they decide to purge Scalzi, it'll be as simple as someone saying, "Hey, did you all notice he's white and straight?"

Blogger VD May 17, 2015 1:32 PM  

Scalzi will be as surprised by the unexpected SJW coup as John Tollefsen in Garrison Keillor's Wobegon Boy. Despite having been warned repeatedly.

Perhaps that's why he was already sounding out Baen.

Anonymous Scintan May 17, 2015 1:35 PM  

But Danby....you can't even carry our stuff. We have it all.


Seems to me as if you don't have your Hugo nominations, just for a start.

Anonymous BigGaySteve May 17, 2015 1:37 PM  

"It could be just that Conservatives are not (at the present) very good at creating art

It could be just that non-Asian minorities are not (at the present) very good at creating anything, as evidenced by all of history since DNA testing of mummies has shown they are more closely related to Europeans than the current population of Egypt. It turned out the reason Egypt lost its ability to read (hieroglyphics) is the same reason Detroit did (47% functionally illiterate >90% black)

Expulsion from the warren is their nuclear option. There can be no coming back from that.

Fortunately there is an app called GRINDR, you put a picture of a certain body part on it and it will deliver members of the warren to you.
http://www.queerty.com/philadelphia-man-murdered-dumped-in-alley-following-alleged-grindr-hookup-20140506 One of the victims of the black moslem serial killer before it was noticed he was a black moslem and media ignored, note the victim was gay married and drove 18 miles from Philly. Some of you might say its unbelievable for him to drive 18mile from Philly for a sex hook up when you can't swing a dead cat without hitting multiple gays in Philly, but its not true. If you start to swing a dead cat in Philly most gays will act like women do around spiders so it would be hard to hit more than one.

Vox provided 2 wedding cakes for the picture captha.

Blogger Nate May 17, 2015 1:39 PM  

"Please, James, go on. Describe this glorious future. Tell us what the culture will look like when you win. We are all ears"

The future is actually an ugly place. its a place where your twitter feed doesn't get you fired... rather it prevents you from getting the job in the first place. The right has dealt with this for a long time.

It will be interesting to see how the left howls when they also have to deal with it.

and of course... you live in your own little pond so you don't realize it... but the world is't run by liberals. business owners and CEO types tend to lean right... not left. There are far more of us than you... and while you're busy hiring unqualified diversity check marks that actually reduce productivity... our companies will be hiring the best guy for the job.

So we'll win. We'll keep winning.

And over time... liberals will shut up. Because if they don't shut up.. no one will hire them.

Blogger Nate May 17, 2015 1:42 PM  

"Seems to me as if you don't have your Hugo nominations, just for a start."

***chuckle***

Blogger Nate May 17, 2015 1:43 PM  

And Gawker and Kotaku don't have that little thing businesses call revenue.

Left attacks Chic-fil-a... Chic-fil-a has the biggest week in company history.

Right attacks Gawker and kotaku... gawker and kotaku go broke.

But yes.

Keep telling yourself the war is over.

Blogger Harsh May 17, 2015 1:50 PM  

Please, James, go on. Describe this glorious future. Tell us what the culture will look like when you win. We are all ears

It won't include fools like you, for one.

Blogger James Dixon May 17, 2015 1:58 PM  

> But Danby....you can't even carry our stuff. We have it all.

Kiddy porn doesn't count, Winner.

Blogger Harsh May 17, 2015 1:59 PM  

Please, Harsh, describe this future and the path toward it.

I just did. Fools like you won't be there.

Blogger Harsh May 17, 2015 2:00 PM  

you think a conservative has any thing in common with the "women-ruin-everything" crowd or the "Jews-go-home" crowd that you so hPpily defend?

He thinks we're all conservatives. You're a cute little pudwhacker, Winner. I'm going to miss you.

Anonymous Scintan May 17, 2015 2:00 PM  

Nate, what's gonna happen? Someone won't get a job because they support same sex marriage on their Twitter feed? They will lose their job cause their Twitter feed calls out Vox day for his nasty anti semitism? A job won't be had because they support "diversity"? Is this what's coming?

Guess what, that all was tried for the past 20 years. And we still won.


That's just it, slick. It was not tried, by those who oppose the SJWs, for the past 20 years. Those tactics were used, successfully, by the SJWs. They are now being used, successfully, by those opposing the SJW infestation. And the SJW response, to date, has been a whole lot of lying, crying and calling for the tactics to be halted.

One wonders why that would be.

Anonymous BigGaySteve May 17, 2015 2:22 PM  

"Jews-go-home"crowd that you so hPpily defend?

The prime minister of Israel is part of the Jews go home crowd. The funny thing is gay jews are more afraid of Bibi than they are of savage moslems. In part its because religious jews are the only ones breeding and taking over Israel, and they are not letting the DarthSoros jews touch their kids minds or penises in school. In France Bibi told religious Jews to get on planes and boats to Israel as soon as they can, he said the rest should just wait for the trains.

Please, Harsh, describe this future and the path toward it.

Mexican President Calderon said "where there are Mexicans there is Mexico". Some got upset with it but since I have been to Mexico and seen areas in the US Mexicans live I realize he was apologizing. Litter, corruption, crime, rule by drug dealer, people acting like the age of consent is 13 & DUIs follow Mexicans. I must admit I have not seen a Hispanic area in the US with more rooster fights & woman/male donkey shows than libraries yet., but Calderon's words seem pretty accurate as DEMOGRAPHICS IS DESTINY.

This means as there are less productive Asians & Whites all the benefits of civilization will slide down to whatever level the population is capable of supporting. Katrina's aftermath with blacks shooting at medevac helicopters, only seen before in Somalia shows DEMOGRAPHICS IS DESTINY. Detroit going from having the best public schools in the US to having a 47% functional illiteracy rate shows DEMOGRAPHICS IS DESTINY. If you don't set yourself up in a nice Whitopia before the ball drops you wont be allowed in during the Nigapocalypse.

Blogger VFM 188* May 17, 2015 2:27 PM  

@Danby: Well said! Good stuff!

Just one thing. You said: You guys could win this if you could shut up for even a few days, but you are completely incapable of it.

No. No they couldn't.

Anonymous Culture War Draftee #151 May 17, 2015 2:34 PM  

@Elocutioner

I skimmed the Guardian article. It has the best comedy moment you could ever hope for:

[McGuire] said she had "eaten nothing but ice cream today", and had "cried a lot" after learning of her nominations.

The Guardian has their own cruelty artists I see.

Blogger Alexander May 17, 2015 2:48 PM  

Much like the words "democratic", "reasonable", "republic", and "for the children", people and ideas that are actually "winners" dont feel the need to use the label in their handle.

Carry on, champ.

Anonymous Winner May 17, 2015 3:18 PM  

Hey Gay Steve...detect a difference between "Jews go home" and "Jews come home"? Ask Vox. He'll explain it.

Blogger Danby May 17, 2015 3:28 PM  

@VFM 118 *****
Many asterisks because ... uhhhh... something that one guy said? or something?

No. No they couldn't.

Sure they could. I get bored rather easily. After a week, I'd find another toy. Lots of people are the same. But The Magical Mincing Pretty Princess Parade is on every day here, sometimes two shows. The plot is kinda formulaic, but the multiplayer is awesome.
Hell, Vox even told them to just abide by the rules of the contest and he'd go do something else. But noooOOOooo, they have to teach him a lesson....somehow. By shooting themselves in the face apparently. Any amount of gaming experience would tell them the best move at this point is to find cover, but they just can't help themselves.

Anonymous BigGaySteve May 17, 2015 3:37 PM  

posted this at 770 might get deleted


BigGaySteve on May 17, 2015 at 12:32 pm said: No one is safe as long as the instinctive reaction of men towards homosexuals is to beat them to death with ax handles and tire irons.

Rotherham UK cops & social workers admitted they ignored 1400+ little indigenous white girls being gang raped by 3rd world savage moslems because they are afraid of being called racist. If they wont do anything to help little white girls what would they do to help puffs?

I can tell you its not church going STR8, White, Christian men that are committing the crimes against gays. In fact queens cry when reality is shown to them like when the SF Gate published the demographics of bashing and other crimes. Blacks only make up 5% of San Francisco but commit the majority of the crimes. Blacks make up 8% of SF public schools but 71% of the arrests. In fact queens cry about cops noticing blacks crime against gays & Asians. What bothers me about a cop saying ” packs of Ni663r5 keep attacking FAQS” is the crime being committed not that its noticed as seen on http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3024732/3-San-Francisco-officers-face-suspensions-racist-tweets.html

Hey Gay Steve...detect a difference between "Jews go home" and "Jews come home"?
When Bibi was in France he said "Jews go home", when he broadcasted from Israel he said "Jews come home"

Anonymous BigGaySteve May 17, 2015 3:51 PM  

posted at 770 If you were a dinosaur my love

If you where a disingenuous leftist that got gay bashed by 2 guys outside a gay bar, and when you went in and told people about it, but couldn't describe your attackers by race when a 6'3" man stood up and pulled out a .45 my love. The hugo award winning story of a member of http://www.pinkpistols.org/

Blogger Cail Corishev May 17, 2015 5:02 PM  

We have it all.

Because it was given to you. You couldn't have made it yourself or taken it, and you could never maintain it or hold it. What you have you have on sufferance from people better than you, because they're better than you.

Good people created good things, and gave them to you because they assumed all people were good so you too were good, or at least that you would recognize the goodness of the things they made and appreciate the things and the giving of them. Being good, they didn't really believe in evil. What they called evil was just people making mistakes; they couldn't believe there were people who would take the good things they were given and gleefully destroy them because they were good, and then try to destroy those who made them.

The day that the good people realize what you are and treat you accordingly, you will lose it all, and all your snark (your only weapon) will be worthless. That day may never come -- and you should be praying that it won't -- but if it doesn't, it won't be due to anything you did, but simply because they were too good to recognize you.

Anonymous BigGaySteve May 17, 2015 5:09 PM  

I have pushed the CHORFS too far now at 770. BigGaySteve on May 17, 2015 at 2:07 pm
– Big Gay Steve has announced elsewhere that he’s going to get himself banned here
Please site documentation- one of the rules of VD blog. A link will do.

Asking for the rules of a blog, for what is allowed makes sense. I was delete/banned from a place I posted often when they made fun of the hicks in Indiana not being able to get applewatch when I pointed out. “Apples CEO cries for a boy cot because he won’t get served pizza at his wedding but gleefully commences commerce with nations that execute gays” I realize it probably took the fun out of CHORFing hicks but I was not aware pointing out hypocrisy was against the rules.

Blogger VFM 188* May 17, 2015 5:24 PM  

You're point being? that you're an asshole posting assholery on someone else's blog?

Must we put up with it for the convenience of ewe?

Blogger Daniel May 17, 2015 6:39 PM  

Yeah nr a use he would have gotten as many hugos by playing it straight. You forget this is a guy who poses frequently in women's clothing. He seized the harmony of the times with his pretzel logic and got some stuff sold. Downside is he isn't in harmony any more.

Blogger Harsh May 17, 2015 6:50 PM  

Downside is he isn't in harmony any more.

Downside is his books aren't that good and he's a risible loser. But maybe he can get his job as AOL's relationship writer back.

Blogger Nate May 17, 2015 6:57 PM  

"Guess what, that all was tried for the past 20 years. And we still won."

You blithering moron.

No one tried that but you. The left did it. The right didn't. We always seperated politics from professional performance while you sliced and diced your way to top positions you never earned.

That's over now.

Now we are going to play by the same rules. And over the next 10 years or so... you're going to learn just how badly you've fucked up.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 17, 2015 7:10 PM  

I hate you Vox...because of the words you used in your last post, I'm going to have to go the Casino(s) in Vicksburg. luckily, I can be comped.


There are casinos in Vicksburg? Indian or something else?

Blogger automatthew 0062 May 17, 2015 7:18 PM  

"And over the next 10 years or so... you're going to learn just how badly you've fucked up."

And you entryist vermin will count yourselves fortunate if your learning only involves the end of a rope.

Anonymous pdimov May 17, 2015 7:37 PM  

Guess what, that all was tried for the past 20 years. And we still won.

Winner, you should be careful with all this winning, because you're too successful in your battle with the host, it will die and you will die with it. Better switch to moderate winning... win just enough to stay at the same place, red queen style.

Except you can't, can you? You're not that sophisticated. Winnarz gonna win. That's all they know.

Blogger Cuca Culpa May 17, 2015 10:05 PM  

Trying to recall if Scalzi liked dodgeball or not.

Blogger Cuca Culpa May 17, 2015 11:07 PM  

I think 'winner' here meant 'winning.'

As in Charlie Sheen.

Blogger MrNiceguy May 18, 2015 12:12 AM  

Every time I see the Scalzi/Correia Twitter burn, I think "Someone needs to cast that screenshot in bronze and present it to Correia as an 'anti-Hugo'."

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