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Thursday, May 21, 2015

The diversity camp crumbles

Anyone who has studied the history of racially and culturally diverse societies knew this was inevitable:
A complaint Friday alleged that Harvard University discriminates against Asian-American applicants by setting a higher bar for admissions than that faced by other groups.

The complaint, filed by a coalition of 64 organizations, says the university has set quotas to keep the numbers of Asian-American students significantly lower than the quality of their applications merits. It cites third-party academic research on the SAT exam showing that Asian-Americans have to score on average about 140 points higher than white students, 270 points higher than Hispanic students and 450 points higher than African-American students to equal their chances of gaining admission to Harvard. The exam is scored on a 2400-point scale.

The complaint was filed with the U.S. Education Department’s Office for Civil Rights.

“Many studies have indicated that Harvard University has been engaged in systemic and continuous discrimination against Asian-Americans during its very subjective ‘Holistic’ college admissions process,” the complaint alleges. The coalition is seeking a federal investigation and is requesting Harvard “immediately cease and desist from using stereotypes, racial biases and other discriminatory means in evaluating Asian-American applicants.”
This action is particularly significant for its symbolism; Harvard is the throne of American left-liberalism. But the nominally ideological alliance of minorities against the white majority was only going to last as long as the minorities felt they benefited more from that alliance than from flexing their muscle in their own direct interests. Based on what we're seeing from the Asians in the political world, they are all but done with their "liberal" alliance with blacks, Jews, and Hispanics.

It won't surprise me if Asians magically become more "conservative" in the next decade as they switch to a Yellow-White (Blue) alliance against the White (Red)-Black-Brown alliance. Politics in the USA and in the UK are becoming less about ideology and more about the straightforward racial power struggles that have historically characterized most diverse societies.

And yes, I use the Red-Blue colors in their original form; Red being the appropriate color for those of the more socialist inclinations.

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Blogger #0006 Hammer May 21, 2015 4:19 AM  

I don't see what the point of having standards is if it is not objective?

OT: Did the brainstorm come with a new plan to conquer the world last night, or are we still sticking with the tried and trusted kill, rape and plunder?

Blogger L. Beau May 21, 2015 4:39 AM  

I'm glad to see you sticking with the traditional political coding for the colors red and blue. It was bad enough hearing phrases like "red states" from lefty types, but it really irked me to hear "conservatives" using them.

Anonymous Naitch May 21, 2015 5:24 AM  

This has already happened in England. Check this out from Heartiste's twitter

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFbTG4RUUAAzpKX.jpg:large

In Britain "Asian" means south Asian. "Other Asians" are most likely east Asians like Chinese and such, and they already vote heavily conservative.

Blogger Doom May 21, 2015 5:35 AM  

Good on you for getting red and blue right. As for the Orientals, fuck them. They aren't Americans either. Get rid of the the low bar and high bar foreign interests. Let them self identify for irradiation. Not in literal, probably terms. But if Idiocracy (pure democracy) continues, count on what I excluded. Essentially, this is America or it isn't. I don't care, I'm working to get out of the way of the genocide that is coming down the pike. Personally, I hope merely to get in shape to get out of the way of what is coming. Cheers to the assholes that are staying and about to begin killing. Feminism is dead, all hail feminism, and the rest of identity culture. Woot!

Blogger kh123 May 21, 2015 5:43 AM  

Forgot to cap it off with a "yum." Though "woot" seems to work.

For what it's worth, could hear Bill the Butcher's voice narrating the entire comment.

Blogger Rantor May 21, 2015 5:52 AM  

This indicates that the white student must outscore the Hispanic by 130 points and the black student by 310. I understand that the new SAT doesn't as easily equate to IQ as the old, but I bet 310 points is more than one SD higher... Time to do some research.

Blogger SciVo May 21, 2015 5:52 AM  

"The complaint was filed with the U.S. Education Department’s Office for Civil Rights."

Well, that complaint is going to go nowhere then. That office of SJWs is the source of the "Dear Colleague" letter that forces institutions of higher learning in the U.S. to railroad college men accused of sexual misconduct at the risk of losing their students' eligibility for Federal student aid if they don't, and getting sued if they do.

Blogger SciVo May 21, 2015 6:01 AM  

To clarify, Asians are white now. I expect that the nest of vipers in the US ED OCR approves of Harvard's formulaic discrimination.

Anonymous PhillipGeorge©2015 May 21, 2015 6:04 AM  

the people you are complaining to are the ones you are complaining about....
as I said before Vox, the reversion to ethnic/ racial tribalism is the failure of the church to expose satan and allow God inside the building. When man builds on the silicone valley planting trees of knowledge.......RMS Titanic re-branded....just more dominoes in this line up.

Blogger Rantor May 21, 2015 6:12 AM  

So the majority of Harvard applicants scored between 2070 and 2350. If your Asian student had to outscore a Black student by 450 points, and got a perfect score (2400) than the Black student average was 1950, 120 points below the 25/75 percentile student averages... Assuming perfection is not required for the Asian, the Black student average for admission to Harvard is below 1900.

Blogger Rantor May 21, 2015 6:23 AM  

Using 1900 versus 2350, the difference in IQ is probably about 30 points, or 2SD. 125 versus 155 (although the scale is possibly lower). As discussed previously on Vox' blog this is a significant and qualitative difference in intelligence.

Anonymous An Israeli May 21, 2015 6:31 AM  

The Jewish vote may also shift, as had already happened in the recent British elections.

Blogger Rantor May 21, 2015 6:37 AM  

In looking at Harvard statistics, one site said the students were 40% Male and 50% Female. The site did not account for the missing 10%.

Blogger Rantor May 21, 2015 6:44 AM  

Must have been a typo, Harvard is almost 50/50 male to female (undergrad).

Anonymous AlteredFate May 21, 2015 7:02 AM  

The site did not account for the missing 10%.

Like all good progressive institutions,10% of the student body at Harvard is made up of those transitioning of course.

Anonymous joe doakes May 21, 2015 7:03 AM  

This was explained long ago: some animals are more equal than others. Just not the ones you think.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 21, 2015 7:30 AM  

They still have a few gentile white males to jettison first. I assume that will wipe out the legacy admits and the athletes, and then the bloodbath can really occur in the diversity uber alles camp.

A contract prof who did not make tenure at an Ivy wrote a book about his experience, fairly eye opening, but basically states what we probably knew about those places and how they cater to damaged women. I think the prof was at Yale and has posted at Sailer's site.

Blogger Cataline Sergius May 21, 2015 7:31 AM  

Irish Catholics have been here for better than a hundred fifty years and are conservative about most everything.

Yet, they will still crawl over fifteen miles of broken glass to vote Democrat.

"Reilly", my best friend from high school, mines the internet assiduously to find conservative reasons to vote Democrat.

If we can't get conservative Irish-Catholics to vote for our side, what chance do we have with Asians?

Blogger Joshua Dyal May 21, 2015 7:45 AM  

Boy, am I out of touch. When did the SAT switch from being a 1600 point scale to a 2400 point scale?

Anonymous Lulabelle (68) May 21, 2015 7:48 AM  

I'm wondering the same thing, Joshua.

Blogger John S May 21, 2015 7:49 AM  

are we still sticking with the tried and trusted kill, rape and plunder?

You're doing it wrong...

Blogger anon May 21, 2015 7:52 AM  

im irish catholic and my family stopped voting democrat because of that damn socialist FDR as gramps called him, I think the religious angle is not the issue many Irish were discriminated against and rose to blur collar through unions they are voting their pockets not pews. blur collar people living closer to minorities are natural race realists as well. this third party idea where republicans are discarded as an enemy of the people and distraction tactic of the cathedral is the only hope for conservatism. immigration and inflation from socialist spending has destroyed middle class life and multiculturalism has destroyed its culture republicans do nothing on these issue .

Anonymous PA May 21, 2015 7:57 AM  

With the Republican party being only (barely at this point) only symbollicaly a White interests party or a defender of tradition party, one wonders how meaningful will any racial alliances be on macro levels.

On the personal or very local level, probably little will change. Asian girls will still date White men and Asian men will nurse resentment. East Asians will still be acceptable as neighbors and individually there will still be polite interracial relations as is typical among intelligent people. There will still be a common dislike of blacks but also Asian's jealous vigilance against white nationalism. Asians will still status-whore and homelier Asian girls will still drift SJW.

Blogger anon May 21, 2015 8:05 AM  

the comment above about satan is one problem despite its historical contribution to WC christianity is an inherently leftist ideology and has been irrevocably pwnd by leftists sadly it can never be trusted as a means of carrying conservatism. and of course the implication in the US is this leaves race which may be hopelessly damaged, in Europw nation can stand for race perhaps though meaning race.
the comment asians are whites now, not sure if commenter meant this but it will be the liberal response asians are held to the higher standard to allow more non jew whites in this will simply be stopped as it was for the jews and as in that case whites will agin be squeezed from top and bottom. i suppose its remotely possible this could lead to a system of simpler quota by population ratio ot more far fetched a meritocracy but i wouldnt hold my breath it might help whites to see whats happening.

Blogger David-093 May 21, 2015 8:07 AM  

"Boy, am I out of touch. When did the SAT switch from being a 1600 point scale to a 2400 point scale?"

Been that way since the mid 90s.

Blogger Cail Corishev May 21, 2015 8:07 AM  

If we can't get conservative Irish-Catholics to vote for our side, what chance do we have with Asians?

Zero. They will never vote for "our side," if by "our side" you mean the traditional Western Civ, limited-government, rights-of-man side. They might vote Republican for a while as part of a struggle with other minority groups over a shrinking pie of spoils, and neocons will rejoice that their minority outreach is finally paying off (though the media will still call them the White Party). But that doesn't mean Asians will become American conservatives. If they have the numbers to make the GOP dominant, they'll also have the numbers (and the moral high ground which Republicans always give minorities) to make the GOP the Asian Party the way the Democrats are now the Gay Black Party.

It might be fun to watch, though, if only for the fact that the Bush family and friends are clearly trying to position the GOP as the Brown Party so they can rule it with their Mexican connections. I think I'd have to root for the Asians.

Blogger Joshua Dyal May 21, 2015 8:13 AM  

Been that way since the mid 90s.

Well, holy crap. I'm getting old.

Blogger Michael Maier May 21, 2015 8:14 AM  

David-093 May 21, 2015 8:07 AM
"Boy, am I out of touch. When did the SAT switch from being a 1600 point scale to a 2400 point scale?"

Been that way since the mid 90s.


Not true. I didn't take it til 1998 and my score was 1600-based.

Anonymous Wanderer May 21, 2015 8:19 AM  

Been that way since the mid 90s.

It was 1,600-based until about 2006 or 2007, and then it switched to 2,400-based, but now they are going back to 1,600-based, I believe.

Anonymous NateM May 21, 2015 8:26 AM  

Think that's egregious? look at MCAT and GPA Grid for applicants of various races. At a 3.8 GPA for example, an asian student with a 3.80-4.0 GPA and a 30-32 MCAT has about the same chance of being accepted (75%) as a black student with a 3.6-3.79 GPA and a 24-26 MCAT

Blogger Nate May 21, 2015 8:32 AM  

"the comment above about satan is one problem despite its historical contribution to WC christianity is an inherently leftist ideology and has been irrevocably pwnd by leftists sadly it can never be trusted as a means of carrying conservatism. "

Submitted for the Dumbest Comment of the Day Award.

Blogger Rabbi B May 21, 2015 8:34 AM  

"It was 1600 based until about 2006 or 2007"

They added an essay section for 800 points I believe.

Blogger Nate May 21, 2015 8:36 AM  

"Think that's egregious? look at MCAT and GPA Grid for applicants of various races. At a 3.8 GPA for example, an asian student with a 3.80-4.0 GPA and a 30-32 MCAT has about the same chance of being accepted (75%) as a black student with a 3.6-3.79 GPA and a 24-26 MCAT"

Yep. My wife was young when she graduated from college... and they kind of counted that against her in admissions when it came to medical school. She ended up being an alternate.. and was one of the last people accepted into the class that year.

The first day of medical school she encountered the ubiquitious table of black students... where they were discussing who was the "the smart one" among them.

They decided that since one of them had over a 3.4 gpa (at a bad school)... that one would help the rest of them get through.

My wife had a 4.0... in chemistry... from a much better school.

Blogger Steveo #238 May 21, 2015 8:37 AM  

Boy, am I out of touch. When did it switch from Rape, Kill, Pillage & Burn?

Blogger Matt #0083 May 21, 2015 8:37 AM  

The switch to a 2,400 point scale in 2005 came with the addition of a third, writing, component to the test. Which of course it is absolutely possible to grade totally objectively... [/sarc]

Next spring the test returns to a 1600 point scale as the essay becomes optional, so there will be a separate score for the essay portion. There are also huge changes being implemented in how the test is scored. No more point penalties for incorrect answers, and apparently a new emphasis on citing evidence to justify your answers.

There is currently no indication whether "because racism and homophobia" or "because FeelGoods/FeelBads" will be considered bulletproof justifications.

Blogger JDC May 21, 2015 8:44 AM  

In looking at Harvard statistics, one site said the students were 40% Male and 50% Female. The site did not account for the missing 10%.

It is because they have the proper understanding of gender as a flowing spectrum and not binary. The missing 10% is obviously those who refuse to submit to the patriarchy and label themselves as one or the other.

Blogger Matt #0083 May 21, 2015 8:45 AM  

are we still sticking with the tried and trusted kill, rape and plunder?

You're doing it wrong...


I generally prefer rape to come before kill. YMMV.

Blogger JDC May 21, 2015 8:47 AM  

Facebook has a custom option under gender, allowing you to customize your gender identification to your preference, as well as adjust the pronouns you use to wish people a happy birthday. What a great world we live in.

Anonymous Big Bill May 21, 2015 8:49 AM  

A further "Asian" splintering happened a couple years ago in California. California colleges used the "Asia-Pacific Islander" quota category in admissions, lumping Micronesians (eg Tongans, Fijians) together with Asians (eg Koreans, Chinese, Japanese).

The problem, obviously, was that Micronesians are pretty dumb. All the A-PI quota slots were going to Asians. The Micronesians/Pacific Islanders demanded that they be treated as a separate group so they didn't have to compete against Asians.

It worked! They now have their own sub-quota.

Blogger Matt #0083 May 21, 2015 8:51 AM  

It is because they have the proper understanding of gender as a flowing spectrum and not binary.

A college friend of mine who lives in one of the nicer western suburbs of Philadelphia posted this on Facebook yesterday:

Just got a form to fill out for the kids that includes "Prefers not to identify" under gender.

Blogger Aeoli Pera May 21, 2015 8:52 AM  

Just so I'm clear...this was due to Ron Unz's research, right? http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/

The man is a walking WMD. I hope he's been reading Anonymous Conservative's posts on surveillance.

Blogger natschuster May 21, 2015 8:53 AM  

I understand that there not a whole lot of unity among Spanish speaking people. My Puerto Rican Students told me about how all the animosity that exists between Puerto Ricans and Dominicans. My son's school is near a super market that employs Mexicans and Guatamalans. My son often witnesses supervisors yelling at employees who refuse to work with people from the wrong country.

Anonymous NateM May 21, 2015 9:00 AM  

Nate-

I'd believe it. I worked with/managed people who I couldn't believe were actually college graduates (they worked among other people who weren't and I couldn't tell the difference). Many graduated from HBCs, Those were often the worst. One particularly notorious HBC in my city almost lost accreditation because they plagiarized on the application.

Blogger Stilicho #0066 May 21, 2015 9:02 AM  

There are also huge changes being implemented in how the test is scored. No more point penalties for incorrect answers, and apparently a new emphasis on citing evidence to justify your answers.

The SAT used to be THE test if you were planning on attending the better schools. The ACT was for junior college or East Podunk U. Sounds like the market is open for a test that does what the SAT used to do: allow schools to select on the basis of IQ without being too obvious about it and maintaining plausible deniability.

Anonymous BigGaySteve May 21, 2015 9:21 AM  

Since the SATs have tried to water down the math non Asian minorities do poorly on, around 2% or 1 out of 50 Asian males get a perfect math SAT. The Education Realist blog has covered this. My experience with Asians in college lead me to believe Asians could memorize a book easier than they could understand what was in it. Some schools offer more admissions points for being black than for having a perfect SAT

Boy, am I out of touch. When did the SAT switch from being a 1600 point scale to a 2400 point scale?"

It was another manipulation to try to raise black/brown scores, along with removing geometry because spatial orientation is racist.

A contract prof who did not make tenure at an Ivy wrote a book about his experience, fairly eye opening- do you recall the name

Blogger Harsh May 21, 2015 9:26 AM  

It's an inevitable development. America will be a Chinese fiefdom in another decade or so. And good luck to the blacks and browns finding work under Asian rule. You'll be lucky if they let you pick cotton. Us white boys will still be middle management.

Blogger #0006 Hammer May 21, 2015 9:30 AM  

Steveo #238 et al

Boy, am I out of touch. When did it switch from Rape, Kill, Pillage & Burn?

You mean we kill the woman too after we raped 'em?
Will fix.

Blogger Krul May 21, 2015 9:31 AM  

Rantor, you might find these interesting:

SAT (2400) - SAT (1600) - ACT - PSAT Conversion Chart

SAT (1600) - IQ Estimator chart

Blogger Cecil Henry May 21, 2015 9:32 AM  

Chinese universities, and other Asian institutions serve their own ethnic groups--unabashedly.

This is the hypocrisy. Africa for Africans, Asia for Asians, White Countries for Everyone is White Genocide. That;'s what has to STOP.


Freedom of association must be the key. Whites or anyone else can form institutions to serve their interests and not have it highjacked by this SJW corrosive influence. Enough.

Anonymous PA May 21, 2015 9:34 AM  

"America will be a Chinese fiefdom in another decade"

Chinamen couldnt take over Vietnam but they'll be taking over America.

Blogger Harsh May 21, 2015 9:37 AM  

Chinamen couldnt take over Vietnam but they'll be taking over America.

Who the fuck would want to take over Vietnam?

Blogger Stilicho #0066 May 21, 2015 9:48 AM  

Who the fuck would want to take over Vietnam?

France.

Anonymous zen0 May 21, 2015 9:49 AM  

Chinese are mainly socially conservative, family oriented types. I have been saying this for years.

Never mind. No need to pay attention to me. I am nothing.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 May 21, 2015 9:51 AM  

This policy is actually perfectly in line with what Harvard and many other Ivy League schools are really about. You don't go to such colleges because you are highly intelligent, but to build a network of contacts. Education there is about as good as any other college in the nation, it's more about meeting people who will help you build your political or business career.

It is no coincidence that most politicians and top business executives have their own inner circles. At best, these people are midwits. But they are also the Aristocracy.

Blogger njartist May 21, 2015 9:53 AM  

Matt #0083 May 21, 2015 8:37 AM
There is currently no indication whether "because racism and homophobia" or "because FeelGoods/FeelBads" will be considered bulletproof justifications.

However, if one were to answer "4" to "what is 2 x 2 =?", you must not justify it by declaring White Privilege; in fact, "because White Privilege" might get your correct answers penalized.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 21, 2015 9:55 AM  

The professor was a Jewish chap, the supposed excuse given to him was lack of publishing, and no I don't remember his name. What was interesting was that on the Sailer thread he specifically said the football team nearly all white had targets on their backs and that the administration of the school was constantly running interference for them even though they were some of his best students.

Now the white and Jewish girls were another story, dumb as bricks, but vicious with political correctness

Anonymous PA May 21, 2015 9:55 AM  

"Chinese are mainly socially conservative, family oriented types"

Forced abortions is not a family value.

Blogger Harsh May 21, 2015 9:55 AM  

Who the fuck would want to take over Vietnam?

France.


Touche!

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey May 21, 2015 9:56 AM  

I wonder how many of the Ilk are married to Asian women...?

Blogger Alexander May 21, 2015 10:00 AM  

Chinese may be socially conservative (though PA makes an excellent point), but the key element there is who's society?

Hint: Chinese != Anglo. I am not going to cheer living in a socially conservative China just because it uses the right buzzwords.

And we agree they are family oriented. But they aren't my family. Bringing in a group of foreigners who are very loyal to themselves is a good way to run off *your* people.

Blogger Viisaus May 21, 2015 10:07 AM  

"And good luck to the blacks and browns finding work under Asian rule. You'll be lucky if they let you pick cotton. Us white boys will still be middle management."

When the Huns overran German tribes in Eastern Europe (and pushed others, like the Visigoths, into the Roman Empire), they turned them as parts of their horde, or at least auxiliaries.

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/20063/20063-h/20063-h.htm

"For eighty years the power of the Ostrogoths suffered eclipse under the shadow of Hunnish barbarism. As to this period we have little historical information that is of any value. We hear of resistance to the Hunnish supremacy vainly attempted and sullenly abandoned. The son and the grandson of Hermanric figure as the shadowy heroes of this vain resistance. After the death of the latter (King Thorismund) a strange story is told us of the nation mourning his decease for forty years, during all which time they refused to elect any other king to replace him whom they had lost. There can be little doubt that this legend veils the prosaic fact that the nation, depressed and dispirited under the yoke of the conquering Huns, had not energy or patriotism enough to choose a king; since almost invariably among the Teutons of that age, kingship and national unity flourished or faded together."

And the Russians have had even more thorough experiences on what it is like to live under Asiatic yoke...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasion_of_Rus%27#The_age_of_Tatar_rule

Anonymous Geoff May 21, 2015 10:18 AM  

The Chinese are taking over Canada faster than the USA if Vancouver and Toronto are any indication.

Blogger Harsh May 21, 2015 10:19 AM  

And the Russians have had even more thorough experiences on what it is like to live under Asiatic yoke...

True, it will be a rough life but the food will be great and there will be lots of gambling.

Anonymous Susan May 21, 2015 10:21 AM  

Bit of trivia: It was the late Tim Russert and his dry board during election night coverage who first changed the meanings of Red/Blue during the coverage. His chicanery did not go unnoticed.

Blogger hank.jim May 21, 2015 10:29 AM  

It will take more than this case to drive Asians conservative. It is true that Asians are more conservative than other minorities and there are many Asian Christians, but Asians are appropriated by Big Government interests. Many Asians work in government. Many prefer Democratic policies on education. Many want more immigration especially for family still living overseas. Corruption in government is an acceptable way to do business in Asia and there's no reason for them to not look the other way in America.

Everyone else looks at Asians as the race to be ignored. Asians will have to exercise their power so people will take notice. Democrats have their hierarchy. Republicans can hope for more Asian support, but I wonder if Asian participation, just like Hispanic participation, will make the Republican party more liberal and less conservative. A victory that does nothing. Asians still get shafted.

Blogger darkdoc May 21, 2015 10:39 AM  

Think that's egregious? look at MCAT and GPA Grid for applicants of various races. At a 3.8 GPA for example, an asian student with a 3.80-4.0 GPA and a 30-32 MCAT has about the same chance of being accepted (75%) as a black student with a 3.6-3.79 GPA and a 24-26 MCAT

Started med school in 1973. In a class of 125 students, we had 18 vibrants. Every one of the vibrant students required tutoring (paid by the state) to get through school, and not 1 of the original 18 graduated with our starting class. They self-segregated themselves from all of us other students. and eventually 10 dropped out when they could not pass the National Medical Boards Part 1 in multiple attempts (they had to be passed to go to your 3rd year). I never heard how the remaining 8 did on Part 2 and how many actually graduated. The people that did finally graduate, I suppose, are treating people. Our class picked up only 5 from earlier classes who then graduated with us, and that was figured to be about average vibrant graduation rates.

I suspect the bar was greatly lowered in the years following to accommodate this horrible social injustice caused by privileged white students.

Anonymous Will Best May 21, 2015 10:40 AM  

the GOP the Asian Party the way the Democrats are now the Gay Black Party.

The Democrats don't cater to the blacks, they bribe them and then force them to vote for things that are so obviously not in their best interest like immigration.

And we agree they are family oriented. But they aren't my family. Bringing in a group of foreigners who are very loyal to themselves is a good way to run off *your* people.

South Asians want to be Indians in America. They keep their names, make tribal hiring decisions, exploit anybody that isn't in their family, etc. The high caste groups would import that if they could.

East Asians are more conformist (the majority take English names legally) but are still highly tribal. Whats more, ones that have not adopted Christianity operate on a "don't shame the family" morality. Which means either adhere to the prevailing authority, or don't get caught violating it. That is nice for giving the appearance of assimilating to those that aren't paying attention, but those of us that deal with Asians regularly in business transactions know that you need to plan a little attention on verifying compliance. Christianity seems to be very helpful in mitigating that mindset, so perhaps there could be assimilation but we are decades away from that.

Anonymous Sensei May 21, 2015 10:40 AM  

East Asian and especially Chinese people with the means flow pragmatically to the most successful culture. When America was in its prime, Chinese parents moved to America and did what they could to have their kids be Americans. Several years ago the tide stemmed, and nowadays there's a reverse flow as some younger people are leaving America to return to Asia. With situations like Baltimore that will accelerate, it's like the old saying about rats and a ship.

Anonymous NateM May 21, 2015 10:43 AM  

"They self-segregated"

That seems to be common in educational environments. It's a weird sort of attitude they have, acting superior to the rest but staying separate because they know a direct comparison would put a whole in that view.

Anonymous NateM May 21, 2015 10:48 AM  

*put a hole* rather

Anonymous Porky May 21, 2015 11:04 AM  

Dudes...it's rape, murder, arson, and rape.

Blogger Doseux May 21, 2015 11:05 AM  

the reversion to ethnic/ racial tribalism is the failure of the church to expose satan and allow God inside the building

I will answer your statement by analogy.

Look at the state of the Church today. Christ himself prayed that we might all be one, yet the baptized are shattered and scattered and incite violence one to another.

The “diverse” solution would be to stick all these warring factions under the same tent, wherein leadership is democratically elected such that whatever heresy has the most adherents can proclaim its mistakes as gospel. This solution would only serve to drastically increase Christian disunity.

If you would think, just for the moment, you’d recognize that the god of this world takes his pleasure in sowing every seed of division and strife he can. And up until the day when Our King comes in glory to dethrone the Usurper-Prince, we can do very little but live with a love broken by sin.

The very same principle applies to race and nations. We are called to love our neighbor, to seek human unity, and pray that the soul of every man, woman, and young child would be saved from disaster and discord. But we cannot simply ignore our differences, nor pretend that the cavernous divisions between race and tribe do not exist. Rejecting reality is the height of pride.

I could go further, but I hope that what I have written will suffice to silence the tyrannical equalism that has led to so much modern strife.

Blogger John S May 21, 2015 11:50 AM  

Chinese are mainly socially conservative, family oriented types. I have been saying this for years.

While I realize you may be engaging in a little sarcasm here; we've all heard that party line being pushed by good, upright cuckservatives regarding the Mexican hordes flooding the joint, so...

What human group would this boilerplate NOT apply to? Seems as useful as praising their traditional customs of exchanging oxygen for carbon dioxide or turning food into fertilizer.

Blogger Stilicho #0066 May 21, 2015 12:06 PM  

"I went to diversity camp and all I got was a participation ribbon"

A) Bumper sticker
B) T-shirt slogan
C) Hillary's post-2008 primary analysis
D) Phrase taken from Harvard Diploma

Blogger Chiva May 21, 2015 12:12 PM  

"so perhaps there could be assimilation but we are decades away from that."

Assimilation will only happen if the people are willing. There are sections of Chinatown in SF that have families residing in America for several generations that still do not assimilate.

Anonymous Jack Amok May 21, 2015 12:13 PM  

Just got a form to fill out for the kids that includes "Prefers not to identify" under gender.

Really, they should just add a checkbox for all the diversity categories that says "[] Whatever helps you fill your quota". It would be a benefit for all involved.

Anonymous Jack Amok May 21, 2015 12:19 PM  

America will be a Chinese fiefdom in another decade

Chinamen couldnt take over Vietnam but they'll be taking over America.

Who the fuck would want to take over Vietnam?

France.


This is why I come here...

Blogger Tommy Hass May 21, 2015 12:23 PM  

Jusr curious: when was the last time the "inevitable war" inevitably happened? Has there ever been a time where something like today happened?

I can only thinki of Mexicans losing Texas because they stupidly admitted whites from America to their country.

I mean, I intuitively get it, but I am interested in examples.

Anonymous Steve-waa May 21, 2015 12:48 PM  

In the last presidential election, around 75% or more of Asian americans voted for the Democratic Party. They are solidly in the leftist party. They are not and will not vote for Caucasian conservatives. It doesn't matter if they are discriminated against in university admissions. That won't make them vote conservative.

This reminds me of the "Hispanics are natural conservatives" nonsense that the Republic party puts out.

Blogger Stilicho #0066 May 21, 2015 1:04 PM  


This reminds me of the "Hispanics are natural conservatives" nonsense that the Republic party puts out.


Like the Chinese, they naturally seek to conserve their own.

Blogger Marissa May 21, 2015 1:33 PM  

I worked with/managed people who I couldn't believe were actually college graduates (they worked among other people who weren't and I couldn't tell the difference).

I attended a small private college and saw the same thing. I reviewed students' essays, from run-of-the-mill class essays to final theses, and they were overwhelmingly horrible. Some were lacking in an understanding of content, grammar and logical exposition. Those students who could write a basic sentence could barely make an argument with proper citations. I would bet that maybe 10% of the students at that school knew their subject at a bachelor's degree level and could expound upon it in an adult manner.

Anonymous Bobbala May 21, 2015 2:20 PM  

As a white guy, I would be satisfied with a place which I could relocate and avoid this real and factually true oppression as everybody but white enjoys.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents May 21, 2015 2:49 PM  

We already know where this is going. Last in in California the brown lobby attempted to restore AA admissions to part of the Cali U system, and the East Asian voter groups rejected it. Specifically the Chinese and Koreans brought a lot of pressure on their Assembly reps to kill the proposal. There was a press conference that contained a lot of parents demanding that admissions remain merit based.

It was all carried out within the Democratic party. One faction squabbling with another faction. There probably are some Chinese who are Republicans but I bet they are either very old, or they are early 20's.

That's what's happening with Harvard, the East Asian parents are squabbling over how much of the pie belongs to them, within the larger Party. None of them are going to leave the Party over this. They might well have the political muscle to get what they want, likely for now at the expense of whites who aren't politically connected (legacies, etc.).

Later on we'll see. One thing they don't have is white guilt.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper May 21, 2015 3:12 PM  

China isn't going to be taking over anything, caveat a few rich oligarchs owning a good chunk of Canada or the US . The normal family values in China are Confucianist for one, which is far closer to clannish and tribal than anything Western , it doesn't expand well and the current system is an unstable system.

The TFR is a bit better, roughly Western but its skewed and the population there is aging fast. Broadly most Chinese will be old before they are wealthy and living in a ruined ecology


That said they have quite a bit of "up" before they go down yet to go.

Anonymous Luke May 21, 2015 3:17 PM  

Not stated here that I saw re the U.S. colleges that are worth a cr*p: Asians did not created them, and with very few exceptions, neither did blacks or Hispanics. Why let them get any benefit from whites' colleges and universities? (That goes triply for any such privately-owned ones.)

Blogger ICG May 21, 2015 3:24 PM  

In the last presidential election, around 75% or more of Asian americans voted for the Democratic Party. They are solidly in the leftist party. They are not and will not vote for Caucasian conservatives. It doesn't matter if they are discriminated against in university admissions. That won't make them vote conservative."

I think this is because most are apolitical for the most part. The little they hear about politics is from the MSM. And many came here by way of California. I'm sure the PC brainwashing in schools is worse there than anywhere else.

Most Asians I know in the Bible Belt are conservative or just don't follow politics at all.

Anonymous Sheila May 21, 2015 3:25 PM  

Thanks to those who already made the extremely valid point that Asians are not "natural conservatives" as far as most here would define a true conservative. Further kudos to those who noted that regardless of how bright or nonviolent they are as neighbors (we won't mention various other crimes or cheating or espionage), they are still not Americans and do not corporately create a culture Whites want to live in.

As far as dumbing down the standards for blacks and other vibrants, I came across some notes I made about the ASVAB a few years ago. I know I got the numbers from the web but cannot provide a link. Those who pass are/were divided into various categories, with cat I being 93-99 percentile, cat II being 65-92, cat IIIA being 50-84, and cat IIIB being 31-49. 43% of White applicants pass under categories 1 and II; only 18% of blacks do. 51.6% of blacks get in under catIIIA, and 22.4% under cat IIIB. Just consider those percentiles, and then recall that perhaps 50% of all blacks cannot even qualify to take the test because of drug and criminal offenses or obesity. So of those who do (that mythical talented tenth), more than 1/5 are at the 31-49% of all ASVAB test takers.

To cap that off, recall that the GT score is roughly analogous to IQ (it's from combining a few other subscores of the test if I recall). 86% of blacks did NOT get above a 110 on the GT score. It's one thing to say that average black American IQ is 85, and the distribution curve is quite different from the White on both extreme ends (far fewer on the right and far more on the left). It's another to realize that perhaps 14% of the top 50% of blacks are perhaps bright enough to be just slightly above the White average nationally. Compare these to your average White child from a stable, two parent home in a minimally diverse suburb, and you realize just how far out of their depth those blacks who go to any non-HBC college are.

Blogger Marissa May 21, 2015 3:48 PM  

As far as dumbing down the standards for blacks and other vibrants, I came across some notes I made about the ASVAB a few years ago. I know I got the numbers from the web but cannot provide a link. Those who pass are/were divided into various categories, with cat I being 93-99 percentile, cat II being 65-92, cat IIIA being 50-84, and cat IIIB being 31-49. 43% of White applicants pass under categories 1 and II; only 18% of blacks do. 51.6% of blacks get in under catIIIA, and 22.4% under cat IIIB. Just consider those percentiles, and then recall that perhaps 50% of all blacks cannot even qualify to take the test because of drug and criminal offenses or obesity. So of those who do (that mythical talented tenth), more than 1/5 are at the 31-49% of all ASVAB test takers.

The Army did this kind of testing before and during WW2 and found similar results.

Blogger Mastermind May 21, 2015 4:38 PM  

"but Asians are appropriated by Big Government interests."

Big Government is a poison pill fed to stupid conservatives by liberals. You've bought the idea that government is evil, thus conveniently leaving it and all of its benefits to be overrun by liberals, who are now using it to stomp you into the ground. Government is a tool. "Government is evil" is just the modern conservative equivalent of "guns are evil", except liberals don't need guns (in fact it's beneficial to them that as few people as possible have them) whereas conservatives cannot do anything without control of government. Traditional conservatism and big government (or rather, strong government) go hand in hand. Libertarians are the original leftists.

Blogger Stilicho #0066 May 21, 2015 4:48 PM  

Wow. Just, wow. Mind...blown...

Blogger Chiva May 21, 2015 4:51 PM  

The ASVAB follows the Four-Fifths Rule. The results are monitored and looked at every few years. I would not be surprised if an adjustment comes in the next few years.

“A selection rate for any race, sex, or ethnic group which is less than four-fifths (or eighty percent) of the rate for the group with the highest rate will generally be regarded by the Federal enforcement agencies as evidence of adverse impact.”

— Code of Federal Regulations Pertaining to the U.S. Department of Labor.

Blogger John S May 21, 2015 4:57 PM  

I think this is because most are apolitical for the most part. The little they hear about politics is from the MSM. And many came here by way of California. I'm sure the PC brainwashing in schools is worse there than anywhere else.

Most Asians I know in the Bible Belt are conservative or just don't follow politics at all.


I thought we were supposed to be in awe of their fearsome intellect? But they can't figure out what every poster here has? Which is it? Maybe gullibility on your part?

Blogger The Overgrown Hobbit May 21, 2015 5:13 PM  

Are we still sticking to the tried and trusted kill, rape and plunder?

...you're doing it wrong

~~I generally prefer the rape to come before kill. YMMV~~

If you attempt to rape the wimmin and steal the linen before killing the menfolk, you're going to have your ass handed to you. Just sayin'

("queen's guard men are we")

Blogger Anthony May 22, 2015 1:07 AM  

Asians are natural Democrats because that's where there are more opportunities for graft. Asians being smarter than blacks, Hispanics, and most SWPLs, they'll make out better than those groups. Asians in defense contacting are probably Republicans, though.

As twenty-cent said above, they'll block any leftist stupidity which might hurt them; it's easier to do that from within the Democrat party, especially since they aren't so tied to it that they can't credibly threaten to defect. (Which blacks can't.)

Blogger Shimshon May 22, 2015 3:22 AM  

Marissa, I typed papers for the 1985-6 academic year. My second year. I typed for quite a number of my dorm-mates at a time when owning a computer was just passing the threshold of no longer being rare but still uncommon. The papers I typed. Riddled with typographical and punctuation errors. One guy didn't even bother with punctuation at all. The penmanship on many was barely readable. Going to Beverly Hills public schools growing up, this was somewhat of a teaching moment. This rot was already fairly set in the 1980s.

Blogger WarKicker May 22, 2015 7:51 AM  

Nate,

Your wife must have gotten accepted right away to other medical schools based on her credentials. But I believe I know how you feel. I had a 4.0 and straight 15's on all sections of the old MCAT, applied to 10 schools and was accepted to all except my first choice where I was placed on an alternate list. Of course, two minority students who I tutored in biology and physics (and I mean, they struggled) received acceptance letters to that institution right away.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar May 22, 2015 6:29 PM  

Its, "Crush your enemies, see them flee before you and listen to the lamentations of their women!" Preferably while lying on top of them - unless you're good enough to not need to hold them down of course.
This Magical Rainbow is full of cretins who hate and despise each other. Only the KKKrazy glue of Anti-White Racism keeps them from annihilating each other. In L. A. in the State of Californication, the Mexicans are ethnically cleansing black residents through old fashioned methods of Genocide. Just like the good old days.
These fags may be all happy blackie in public on the Lying Box, but in private they avoid the black parts of town like the plague. The blacks are not at all shy to tell you they hate and attack fags, and they know it.
Asian does not mean what you think it does. In England the girls are getting raped by "Asians" from Pakistan. Look at a map and see the Big Lie right there. Koreans, Japanese and Chinamen are not the only Asians anymore honkeys!
Why do they hold up Mr. Dark Continent? Because they can't go lower on the hominid scale that's why! These Stone Age Savages have to evolve into apes yet and they're not even trying!

Blogger Man. Cla. May 22, 2015 9:01 PM  

I never know if they include Indians under "Asians" or not. That can mess with the numbers. Also would those from the Middle East be under that same category, or African? Or do they count as white?

Anonymous Danny #0265 May 23, 2015 9:50 AM  

--And yes, I use the Red-Blue colors in their original form; Red being the appropriate color for those of the more socialist inclinations.

Thank you! No one in my social circles seems to remember that RED classically meant Socialist/Leftist, etc.... When I bring up the subtle change in Western media regarding this in the last 30 years, I'm met with blank, uncomprehending stares. Thanks for backing up this observation.

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