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Friday, May 15, 2015

"the most despised man in science fiction"

Despised, feared, it's pretty much all the same, isn't it? The Wall Street Journal takes note of the Hugo Awards, with an article entitled "The Culture Wars Invade Science Fiction Online campaigners are pushing to give SF’s annual Hugo Awards to popular space yarns, not more literary fiction or tales of diversity". It's not entirely negative despite the reporter feeling the need to get the opinion of two writers, John Scalzi and George Martin, who don't know a damn thing about what the Puppies are doing. But regardless, the main thing is that the reporter correctly grasped that this is a new front in the cultural war and not a self-serving attempt to pick up meaningless trophies.
Theodore Beale had a big day when the nominations for science fiction’s annual Hugo Awards were announced last month: He received two nominations for his editing work, and nine stories and books from Castalia House, the tiny publisher where he is lead editor, won nominations.

Quite a feat, since Mr. Beale—better known in the science-fiction world by his pen name, Vox Day—is probably now the most despised man in science fiction. In 2013, he was expelled from the Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America after he used the group’s Twitter feed to link to his criticisms of a black female writer as an “ignorant half-savage.” He has called women’s rights “a disease” and homosexuality a “birth defect.”

So why are he and the Castalia House authors being honored? Because two online campaigns by self-styled conservatives, one led by Mr. Beale, flooded the Hugo ballot box

The two groups—which call themselves the “Sad Puppies” and the “Rabid Puppies”—urged the science-fiction fans who vote for the awards to nominate slates of books and authors that the Puppies say have been ignored by the Hugos. The Puppies’ supporters contend that the awards are clique-ridden and biased, rewarding liberal perspectives and self-consciously “literary” fiction rather than traditional, popular tales of space battles and fantasy quests.

The Puppies succeeded wildly.... “This is an important symbol in one particular area of the culture war, and so we took it away from the other side,” said Mr. Beale, who headed the “Rabid Puppies” campaign.
Let them hear us howl... and be afraid. Next stop, Fox News. I thought it was about as balanced an article as one can reasonably expect from the mainstream media, but I did send the reporter the following corrections.
  1. I wasn't expelled from SFWA. The SFWA Board voted unanimously to expel me, but the membership never voted as required by the bylaws and Massachusetts state law. Note that SFWA has never stated that I was expelled, for the obvious reason that I was not. 
  2. The feed concerned isn't the group's Twitter feed, which is @SFWA, but an unofficial feed called @SFWAauthors.
  3. "probably"? Come on, who else is there?
Of course, I'm not a conservative either, nor are many of you, but in my opinion, that's within the reasonable margin of error. We're certainly "conservative" in comparison with the SJW freaks in science fiction. All that really matters is that he got the cultural war aspect right.

As for the black hat, I don't mind it at all. Let's face it, I look pretty damn good in black. Let them open up their hate and let it flow into me.

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200 Comments:

Anonymous Steve May 15, 2015 1:16 PM  

But Mr. Martin, who has dissected the Puppies’ claims exhaustively on his blog, doesn’t think that the Hugos have ignored popular, less literary work. Exhibit A, he says: “Redshirts,”

LOL.

Author David Gerrold, who will co-host the Hugo ceremony, says that the Puppies are “coming across like spoiled brats,” but he doesn’t plan to embarrass anyone.

He's already embarrassed himself.

He notes one irony, though: Any Puppy winning a Hugo will get it from Mr. Gerrold himself or his co-host, author Tananarive Due—a gay man and a black woman.

Tananarive Who?

I Googled her and she contributed to a book called "Naked Came the Manatee".

Now that's irony.

Blogger Chiva May 15, 2015 1:17 PM  

"I don't always make SJWs cry. But when I do, I prefer them to cry loudly

Stay thirsty my minions"

-The most despised man in science fiction

Blogger jay c May 15, 2015 1:19 PM  

"Most despised?" Hardly. "Most feared?" Almost certainly.

Blogger VD May 15, 2015 1:19 PM  

Yeah, that got tweeted, Chiva.

Anonymous Difster VFM #109 May 15, 2015 1:24 PM  

They WSJ (anagram for SJW I might note) was not entirely negative. They will hear it from the SJWs for that. Not speaking out against == support.

Blogger Russell (106) May 15, 2015 1:25 PM  

Anything to the right of the stark raving mad Marxists is "conservative."

But now I'm trigged by the microagressions implicit in that article.

VD: "Let's face it, I look pretty damn good in black."

Now you need a cape. You can hold it up to your face as you menacingly stalk around.

"Any Puppy winning a Hugo will get it from Mr. Gerrold himself or his co-host, author Tananarive Due—a gay man and a black woman."

And let's repeat the Rabid Puppies Official Statement: We don't care.

Blogger Marissa May 15, 2015 1:28 PM  

"Any Puppy winning a Hugo will get it from Mr. Gerrold himself or his co-host, author Tananarive Due—a gay man and a black woman."

And which one will be gritting their teeth? I'm pretty sure it will be one of the tokens.

Anonymous NorthernHamlet May 15, 2015 1:38 PM  

Of course, I'm not a conservative either

Welcome to the Liberal fold, Mr Day...

Oh, wait.

Blogger Alexander May 15, 2015 1:39 PM  

Vox should send Big Gay Steve as his proxy to pick up the awards.

Blogger Alexander May 15, 2015 1:40 PM  

Or Tommy Hass

Blogger Floyd Looney May 15, 2015 1:42 PM  

Putting out an ebook is crazy since I just can't make a cover to save my life.

Blogger Kryten 2X4B 523P May 15, 2015 1:44 PM  

You need a cape and moustache to complete the full "Ming The Mirciless" vibe, Vox.

Blogger dc.sunsets May 15, 2015 1:44 PM  

Culture War? What Culture War?

Who, even five years ago, could have imagined that magazine covers in the supermarket checkout line would soon be festooned with celebrations of a sad-sack ex-celebrity so desperate for attention that he had his genitals surgically removed, probably breast implants inserted, takes female hormones associated with increased cancer risk and dons women's clothing and cosmetics?

Is this the All-American face now on a box of Wheaties, the poster-child for American Culture?

What war?

If it were a war, those pushing this Narrative would actually fear for their own safety, especially if they showed up to a T-ball game fielding impressionable kids and where their parents (read fathers) could register their disapproval in an unmistakable way.

Anonymous David-093 May 15, 2015 1:47 PM  

The more these admirals of social justice tighten the leash, the more undecideds will slip through their fingers.

Blogger Kryten 2X4B 523P May 15, 2015 1:47 PM  

and I cant spell today, I blame the beer.

Blogger James Dixon May 15, 2015 1:48 PM  

> "the most despised man in science fiction"

A new entry for the masthead. :)

Blogger Mark May 15, 2015 1:49 PM  

Until this very moment I didn't know Gerrold was gay. That explains the homoeroticism of "The Man Who Folded Himself" more clearly. Additionally, I always thought that the bizarre sexuality fixation of the book came from a messed up mind.

The "messed up mind" part has been confirmed for me over the last few weeks. What a crackpot.

Anonymous David-093 May 15, 2015 1:50 PM  

That should be "tighten their grip".

Blogger Cataline Sergius May 15, 2015 1:54 PM  

“They’re crashing the party and wrecking the place, and that’s not the way to do it,” said John Scalzi, a Hugo-winning novelist.


We lie. Con. Disparage behind backs.Have hit pieces written up by the anti-author at the Guardian. Disemvowel. Slander. Libel. Lie some more. And point out how much the reactionaries envy us.

But we do NOT confront people face to face like we are some kind of real man.

That's for filthy dudebros who aren't confident enough to be utterly submissive to women. And they don't look as good in dresses as we do either.

Anonymous joe doakes May 15, 2015 1:56 PM  

"Author David Gerrold, who will co-host the Hugo ceremony . . . the Hugos are “the place we go to celebrate our community, our sense of wonder.” He notes one irony, though: Any Puppy winning a Hugo will get it from Mr. Gerrold himself or his co-host, author Tananarive Due—a gay man and a black woman.

And in that thought, he completely validates the Sad Puppies case.

We don't care who hands out the award. We care that the award goes to a story that celebrates the sense of wonder, not boring message fiction. Since those stories can't get nominated without us, therefore Sad Puppies.

Blogger darkdoc May 15, 2015 1:57 PM  

You need a cape and moustache to complete the full "Ming The Mirciless" vibe, Vox

I see more of a black muscle-molded shiny armor thing, with spikes, and lightening bolts erupting into the atmosphere, spines along the back and perhaps a forked tail.

Blogger Pinakeli May 15, 2015 1:58 PM  

I think that the more conservative writers that win should thank Gerrold loudly when they go up to get the award. Tell him that he was their inspiration to start writing in the first place.

See how he feels about that.

Blogger Salt May 15, 2015 1:59 PM  

Michael Rapoport. I'm not surprised the piece was rather fair. Congrats on the WSJ naming you the (probably) most despised man in SF. Next you'll be on the cover of TIME.

Blogger RL (#0052) May 15, 2015 2:07 PM  

>"Next stop, Fox News."

Vox, does this mean you have an interview with Fox News coming up?

Blogger Russell (106) May 15, 2015 2:09 PM  

@darkdoc
I see more of a black muscle-molded shiny armor thing, with spikes, and lightening bolts erupting into the atmosphere, spines along the back and perhaps a forked tail.

Too hard to get through airport security nowadays, and those seats seem smaller each year.

Time was an Evil Overlord could breeze through the security checkpoint and find himself in First Class without more than a twitch of an eyebrow.

But since the TSA took over, well, there are some Evils greater than others.

Blogger VFM 188 May 15, 2015 2:10 PM  

After reading the WSJ article online I have to make a couple of observations:

1. Has anyone juxtaposed the SP and RP logos next to each other? They're both great, but when the RP logo is viewed right next the SP emblem...it's absolutely hilarious. The RP logo made me *literally* laugh out loud. Try it!

2. Could there be in the tone of writing as well as the content a tiny hint that supercarrier SS Culture War could be starting slow down its onrush toward the rocks and shift direction? It takes a long time to have an effect, but it can be done.

3. Could it be that the writer sensed that the "cool people" in this war are the puppies, i.e. all of us having so much fun waving the skull & crossbones and gleefully smashing the SJW literary icons?

Or is it all just my natural creeping optimism?

Blogger Cataline Sergius May 15, 2015 2:12 PM  

But Mr. Martin, who has dissected the Puppies’ claims exhaustively on his blog, doesn’t think that the Hugos have ignored popular, less literary work. Exhibit A, he says: “Redshirts,” Mr. Scalzi’s Hugo-winning 2012 novel.

It is of course a complete and total coincidence that Larry Corriea launched Sad Puppies I, the year after that steaming lump of fanfic took the Hugo basically for being written by John Scalzi.

Blogger Cataline Sergius May 15, 2015 2:13 PM  

I think that the more conservative writers that win should thank Gerrold loudly when they go up to get the award. Tell him that he was their inspiration to start writing in the first place.

Delivery is everything. I know I couldn't keep a straight face.

Anonymous Roundtine May 15, 2015 2:17 PM  

"Any Puppy winning a Hugo will get it from Mr. Gerrold himself or his co-host, author Tananarive Due—a gay man and a black woman.

I've heard of trans, but can you be both at the same time?

Blogger Danby May 15, 2015 2:18 PM  

"I see more of a black muscle-molded shiny armor thing, with spikes, and lightening bolts erupting into the atmosphere, spines along the back and perhaps a forked tail."

Bring out the Black Mamba

Blogger Daniel May 15, 2015 2:19 PM  

If "Redshirts" is Exhibit A, what's Exhibit B? Walter Breen?

That quote is awesome, by the way. I got to that line and imagined the casual reader going, "Okay, George R.R. Martin...he's got something on HBO, Arthur C. Clarke, yeah, check..."Redshirts?" Like, the dead guys from Star Trek?

These puppies are onto something.

I will now refer to Redshirts as "Exhibit A". It is something everyone can agree on. It is an easy hill to take and one the SJWs want to die on for some reason.

Blogger Daniel May 15, 2015 2:22 PM  

What would be hilarious is if someone accepted their Hugo award...with tongs. Maybe while wearing a Hazmat suit.

Anonymous Steve May 15, 2015 2:23 PM  

Vox, if you win a Hugo, will you collect it in person?

Or will you be sending a minion?

Because I like the idea that, as soon as your name is mentioned by a grimacing David Gerrold, a fell cry rends the air and freezes the blood of every CHORF present...

The ceiling groans as if in hideous pain, then there is a hellish crash as concrete and tile yield to an enormous creature. The minion lands in the middle of the convention, its iron boots striking the floor with a terrifying thud, then flexes its vast, midnight-black leathery wings to shake off the dust.

It points an armoured finger at Gerrold, a thin wisp of sulphurous smoke curling from its clawed tip.

"The Lord of Fear sends his regards. I am his emissary. Give me the trinket."

Gerrold cringes and hides behind Due as the minion ascends to the podium.

"My Dark Lord authorises me to bid you thanks for this trifling bauble, and to assure most of you that he wishes you no specific harm. As a token of his noblesse oblige he advises those of you who are afraid of giant sentient scorpions to avoid the Losers Party this evening. You may find it... distressing. That is all."

Clutching his trophy, the minion runs at the windows and leaps through the glass, its wings pounding the air as it departs in malevolent triumph.

David Gerrold attempts to compose himself.

"And... umm... the n-next award goes to.... OH... FFFUUUUUUUU...."

"What's wrong?", cries Due.

"I-it's T-tom K-kratman..." sobs Gerrold, just as the gun turret of a Tiger tank erupts through the back wall...

Blogger Russell (106) May 15, 2015 2:26 PM  

Steve, I've said this before, I'm going to say it again: write a book so we can get it nominated for a Hugo.

Blogger Migly May 15, 2015 2:30 PM  

Steve: Standing O.

Blogger Bruce Lewis May 15, 2015 2:45 PM  

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Blogger sysadmn May 15, 2015 2:45 PM  

"Any Puppy winning a Hugo will get it from Mr. Gerrold himself or his co-host, author Tananarive Due—a gay man and a black woman.

I've heard of trans, but can you be both at the same time?


I'm guessing this is the new "bisexual bigender" stuff LGBQT invented to add more letters to the acronym. Now they're LGB2BT E-I-E-I-O M-O-U-S-E.

Blogger Crowhill May 15, 2015 2:47 PM  

What does a statement like "the most despised man in science fiction" even mean? Is that among sci-fi readers, sci-fi authors, people who feel like they're in the sci-fi market, people who feel they're important in sci-fi .... ?

Blogger Marissa May 15, 2015 2:49 PM  

What does a statement like "the most despised man in science fiction" even mean?

Maybe it means that the astroturf that is Twitter has become a symbol of public opinion.

Anonymous patrick kelly May 15, 2015 2:50 PM  

"Give me the trinket.....Tiger tank..."

And there was much laughter in my office....really....thanks....

Blogger jaericho (#107) May 15, 2015 2:54 PM  

That was hilarious Steve. Moar!

Blogger Iowahine May 15, 2015 2:55 PM  

Gird thy loins, Mighty Despised One. Now that you're being outed in the mainstream, everyone's gonna want to get on board.

And I second those who have nagged Steve to publish. Please do, sir.

Anonymous RedJack #22 May 15, 2015 2:55 PM  

"I-it's T-tom K-kratman..." sobs Gerrold, just as the gun turret of a Tiger tank erupts through the back wall...
Ok, that made me laugh. Though I would expect him leading a troop of old school Roman executioners.

Anonymous Viidad May 15, 2015 2:57 PM  

Steve.. brilliant.

Blogger AmyJ May 15, 2015 2:57 PM  

"Quite a feat, since Mr. Beale—better known in the science-fiction world by his pen name, Vox Day—is probably now the most despised man in science fiction."

I wonder if Orson Scott Card is upset that his title got taken away.

Blogger Sam Hall May 15, 2015 2:58 PM  

Posted this comment at the WSJ

A few points you missed. Both Vox Day and Larry Correia are POC and Brad Torgersen is in a long term b-racial marriage. Not quite the picture of the Puppies the Social Justice Warriors are trying to present.

The Puppies are not opposed to messages in SF, they are opposed to 90% message and 10% story.

The sales of SF books has been in a nosedive the last few years because the reading public doesn't like what is on offer. The Puppies are trying to reverse that trend.

Anonymous fish May 15, 2015 3:00 PM  

Until this very moment I didn't know Gerrold was gay. That explains the homoeroticism of "The Man Who Folded Himself" more clearly. Additionally, I always thought that the bizarre sexuality fixation of the book came from a messed up mind.


Yeah....the working title was "The Man who Bites the Pillow"!

Blogger Brad Andrews May 15, 2015 3:01 PM  

Did the article author really think it was a bad thing to nominate works that were solid?

Though considering the recent insider Scalzi's work as an example of traditional SF shows a bit too little investigative reporting.

Blogger Tallawampus May 15, 2015 3:02 PM  

Steve that was fantastic. I agree with Russell, write something up so you can be nominated next year.

Would it be considered fan fiction if he wrote a short story about The Supreme Dark Lord of the Evil Legion of Evil?

I keep repeating this one to myself:

" ..and to assure most of you that he wishes you no specific harm."

HAH! HAHA!

#0198

Anonymous Lulabelle (68) May 15, 2015 3:03 PM  

" Daniel May 15, 2015 2:22 PM

What would be hilarious is if someone accepted their Hugo award...with tongs. Maybe while wearing a Hazmat suit."

Or while wearing a Matt Taylor pin-up shirt.

Blogger Pinakeli May 15, 2015 3:03 PM  

Cataline Sergius May 15, 2015 2:13 PM

I think that the more conservative writers that win should thank Gerrold loudly when they go up to get the award. Tell him that he was their inspiration to start writing in the first place.

Delivery is everything. I know I couldn't keep a straight face.


OK, I could. With all the theatre training I have had I could even give him a hug right there. And walk calmly back to my room alone.

Followed by a long hot shower. With PineSol. And bleach. And raki so I could erase the experience from my mind.

Blogger Pinakeli May 15, 2015 3:04 PM  

Of course, the chances that I would write something Hugo worthy are small.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey May 15, 2015 3:08 PM  

Congrats, Vox.

Blogger Wow Justwow May 15, 2015 3:17 PM  

T_____ K__________'s Acceptance Speech, 2015 Hugo Awards

Anonymous Earl May 15, 2015 3:35 PM  

Wait. This journalist actually interviewed you, Vox? I mean, what kind of journalist actually interviews the subject of an anti-conservative cultural battle? He didn't even tip us off as to his own opinion about how evil you are. I bet this throwback retrograde RHSD "journalist" didn't even go to j-school.

Blogger Chris Scena May 15, 2015 3:37 PM  

Steve, that was epic. I concur on the requests for more writing.

Anonymous Earl May 15, 2015 3:38 PM  

This WSJ journalist guy is a nobody. A nothing. He'd never make it at NPR. WTF is WSJ anyways? Dead fish wrapper?

Anonymous BigGaySteve May 15, 2015 3:39 PM  

Tananarive Who?I Googled her and she contributed to a book called "Naked Came the Manatee". Now that's irony.

It would really be irony if it wrote "If You Where A Black Tranny Were-Manatee My Love"

Vox should send Big Gay Steve as his proxy to pick up the awards.

I can post over on gay patriot looking for someone that is in the area to be a part of it, I know there are a couple of guys on the west coast. Just make sure you have had your shots (vaccines) before going near the Black Tranny Were- Manatee

I've heard of trans, but can you be both at the same time? Yes schizophrenic, or multiple personality disorder. Might even be a paraplegic black lesbian trapped in an able white mans body.

Now they're LGB2BT E-I-E-I-O M-O-U-S-E. put the G first, dikes get triggered by that.

I wonder if Orson Scott Card is upset that his title got taken away. If its any consolation the rumors on twitter that there was a shower scene with Ender & several other boys on the floor got gays to break the boy cot. Know your enemies weakness.

Anonymous Athor Pel May 15, 2015 3:46 PM  

I usually don't allow my correctness OCD to motivate a comment but I must make an exception here.

Steve,
If the minion accepting the award is demonic then they won't be wearing boots. The will have hooves and those hooves will be a melding of organic and inorganic, keratin and iron blended at the molecular level. When stiking stone they will make sparks.

A minion of this magnitude will also subtly bend space time. Much light will be bent by his presence.

All onlookers will hear and feel unnatural things in their minds, see shadows of menace in the corners of their eyes. Their digestion will quicken, greatly.

Anonymous Huckleberry (#87) -- est. 1977 May 15, 2015 3:49 PM  

If you see Gerrold and Shaft in drag actually take the stage during the Hugos, rest assured they were able to thumb the scales enough to No Award most everything.
No way they take the stage to name Puppy winners.

Blogger Hd Hammer May 15, 2015 3:50 PM  

@Alexander
And then let Big Gay Steve give Gerrold a big gay kiss.
@Steve
that was hilarious.
@Vox
We are entertained

Blogger Sean May 15, 2015 4:32 PM  

Is there any chance a Minion could legally change their name to No Award prior to the ceremony?

Blogger James Dixon May 15, 2015 4:45 PM  

I should note in passing that, as loyal minions, my wife and I dined on succulent rabbit last night.

Anonymous Noah Ward May 15, 2015 4:50 PM  

@Sean

Yes.

Anonymous joe doakes May 15, 2015 5:03 PM  

3,000 new memberships AFTER nominations came out? That doesn't smell right.

Some of those might be Puppies-Come-Lately (we signed up BEFORE nominations so we could vote the slate as dutiful minions). That many new registrations means a huge pile of new memberships are SJWs. Would those people actually pay their own money just to vote for spite? Maybe . . . but it reminds me of Senator Keith Ellison finding boxes of ballots in the trunks of election officials' cars, on the way to winning election by a handful of votes.

Is this that "scholarship" program we've been hearing about? Tor Books buying memberships wholesale so everybody in the company can vote No Award? It probably wouldn't even be against the rules; in fact, it's the kind of trick I'd expect to see them play. The Hugo might indeed be No Awarded all the way down, not by us, but by them. Of course we'll get blamed for it. It'd be excellent to be able to prove their shenanigans, to throw that in their faces.

How can we cross-check a list of new members against known SJW fronts?

Blogger automatthew 0062 May 15, 2015 5:08 PM  

joe doakes: "3,000 new memberships AFTER nominations came out? That doesn't smell right."

We can only hope the SJWs are stupid enough to do that. Xanatos wept.

Anonymous indpndnt May 15, 2015 5:12 PM  

If they want to play identity politics, let's just chip in to have Nero get his hair next-leveled and have him accept all the rabid puppy awards.

Blogger Cee May 15, 2015 5:20 PM  

Registering another "Steve, you need to publish!" comment. Because Steve, you need to publish.

Blogger thule222 May 15, 2015 5:28 PM  

Poor Gerrold, he so desperately wants his identity as an elderly white gay to be shocking. I feel bad for him because I loved Land of the Lost.

Blogger Salt May 15, 2015 5:31 PM  

How can we cross-check a list of new members against known SJW fronts?

Why? We don't care.

Blogger beerme #0183 May 15, 2015 5:32 PM  

@steve excellent

I still want Lord Voxdemort to accept an award carrying his flaming sword. Although Kratman carrying a cross in and asking the room "Who wants to go first" would be almost as satisfying.

Anonymous Huckleberry (#87) -- est. 1977 May 15, 2015 5:46 PM  

How can we cross-check a list of new members against known SJW fronts?

This is why simply nuking it all this year is the best option and the only one which we truly control.
What could possibly be more horrifying for the SJWs than realizing, when the dust settled, that we really never cared about winning it all?
Clear this battle space and let's on to the next front, keep them on their goddamn heels.

Do note that the huge puff up by the SJWs in the aftermath of the nomination announcement got fairly wide coverage in GG circles; there's a fair to decent chance some or even many of those 3,000 came to the party through that route.

Blogger VD May 15, 2015 5:49 PM  

This is why simply nuking it all this year is the best option and the only one which we truly control.

No, it's not. We already have that taken care of as a lesser victory condition. This is the time to be aggressive and see how much more we can take. It would be stupid if we could have won WITH THEM TRYING TO NUKE IT and settled for the nukes.

Anonymous JS May 15, 2015 6:01 PM  

The asterisk nominees may win Hugos but they will forever be properly associated with
Immorality. When the association issue over and over again, the finger will be pointed at Vox Day the weakling who padded his pockets on the deal. All the asterisk winners will be painted with the brush of immorality and money grubbing.

Anonymous Quartermaster May 15, 2015 6:02 PM  

How does the "journalist" know you are the most despised man in SF? Did he take a vote of everyone who writes and reads SF?

I'd think Scalzi and his minionettes would be in the running for most despised.

Blogger Marissa May 15, 2015 6:03 PM  

LOL, SJW caring about "morality".

Anonymous JS May 15, 2015 6:03 PM  

Huckleberry...but Vox Day cares very much about winning as it will line his pockets.

Blogger IM2L844 May 15, 2015 6:05 PM  

This is wonderful news. Maybe we can goad them into a rule change creating a "Most Despised Man in Science Fiction" category for next year. The entertainment potential is enormous.

Blogger Russell (106) May 15, 2015 6:12 PM  

but Vox Day cares very much about winning as it will line his pockets.

Proof or retract.

Anonymous JS May 15, 2015 6:12 PM  

Marissa, if anything is surely try it is that the Vox Day and the asterisk nominees and those that support them couldn't understand the meaning of morality if it was draped over them.

Blogger Daniel May 15, 2015 6:12 PM  

Huckleberry, why should we care what the SJWS think now? It has never been about making them think (they can't) or feel anything. It is about beating them and onlookers rejoicing.

Let us party with the onlookers while the SJWs piss on their own furniture.

Anonymous Huckleberry (#87) -- est. 1977 May 15, 2015 6:13 PM  

We already have that taken care of as a lesser victory condition

Perhaps, but since I'm about 99% sure that the vote tallies will be a big part of this story, SJWs nuking the award over earnest Puppy votes isn't going to play the same as most/all votes coming in for No Award. The former will be spun as an SJW victory, the latter as an extermination.
But I see your point and it's well taken.
If you're going to roll the dice, roll it for the jackpot, not the door prize.

Blogger Akulkis May 15, 2015 6:15 PM  

" LGB2BT E-I-E-I-O M-O-U-S-E."

You misspelled LGBTOMGWTFBBQ

Blogger Daniel May 15, 2015 6:15 PM  

JS is an SJW. SJWs always lie. Hugos can't put asterisks on legal votes.

Anonymous Huckleberry (#87) -- est. 1977 May 15, 2015 6:18 PM  

Huckleberry...but Vox Day cares very much about winning as it will line his pockets

Since I happen to know for a fact a Hugo victory nets about the equivalent of a Grand Slam breakfast at Denny's for the recipient, I am going to laugh at you and then dismiss your claim.

Blogger Super Snake (VFM #239) May 15, 2015 6:20 PM  

JS = John Scalzi


maybe...

Blogger Akulkis May 15, 2015 6:27 PM  

"Is there any chance a Minion could legally change their name to No Award prior to the ceremony?"

Where I live (Michigan), $20 and a few minutes to fill out a form is all it takes to get a Doing Business As (aka a DBA) at the county clerk's office.

All someone needs to do is file a form for Doing Business As No Award.... and yes, it is SOOOOOOOOOO legal an alias that you can even CASH CHECKS AND OTHER PAYMENTS made out to your DBA.

Anonymous Boetain May 15, 2015 6:30 PM  

Totally off-topic, but I am a long-time commenter here so i ask for your patience.

Does anyone here play Boom Beach? We have a great fun task force with comitted players. Looking for good fighters who will attack and gather lots of intel. vp above 200. No need to reply here just join us at "super law". You will see me there named Boetain of course. Just mention you are dread ilk!

Vox maybe u could have a recruiting thread here. It would be fun to join other ilk in the games we play.

Thanks!

Blogger Nate May 15, 2015 6:43 PM  

the irony isn't about a black woman and whiney gay man handing a puppy an award.

The irony would be that poor black woman and that poor gay man standing next to an actual male human being; Tom Kratman.

Blogger Nate May 15, 2015 6:44 PM  

botaine.. me and the boys play boom beach... we may look ya up.

Blogger Nate May 15, 2015 6:46 PM  

"The asterisk nominees may win Hugos but they will forever be properly associated with
Immorality. When the association issue over and over again, the finger will be pointed at Vox Day the weakling who padded his pockets on the deal. All the asterisk winners will be painted with the brush of immorality and money grubbing. "

We don't care.

Anonymous Mr.A is Mr.A May 15, 2015 6:46 PM  

FoxNews, then the Big 3, then the Halls of Congress.

"And so, it begins." -- Ambassador Kosh of the Vorlon Empire

Anonymous JS May 15, 2015 6:50 PM  

Nate....

That's obvious, but it's also a demonstration of your and the ILKs lack of any moral fiber.

Blogger Nate May 15, 2015 6:51 PM  

"That's obvious, but it's also a demonstration of your and the ILKs lack of any moral fiber."

We don't care.

Blogger Russell (106) May 15, 2015 6:52 PM  

Mmm, fiber...

Vox Day cares very much about winning as it will line his pockets

So, JS, do you have proof? If not, retract.

Blogger Nate May 15, 2015 6:53 PM  

┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐

Blogger Krul May 15, 2015 6:55 PM  

JS - "The asterisk nominees may win Hugos but they will forever be properly associated with Immorality."

God forbid the Evil League of Evil be associated with Immorality.

Blogger Danby May 15, 2015 6:57 PM  

@JS
Define morality.

You can't, not only because you're an idiot, a lying, cowardly, bullying, sociopathic moron, but because you reject the very concept.

Anonymous Ridip May 15, 2015 6:58 PM  

@Joe Doakes

I was firmly in the don't care category pre-nominations. Watching GeRRM and friends o reached the entertainment level. Hell my wife even thought it was hilarious and offered to sign up.

Blogger Russell (106) May 15, 2015 7:00 PM  

Lord Voxdemort and the Cloak of Immorality.

Anyone can use that title for their next project. You're welcome.

Blogger Tallawampus May 15, 2015 7:02 PM  

Nate proves once again that brevity is the soul of wit.

Blogger Under Par May 15, 2015 7:03 PM  

Let them open up their hate and let it flow into me.

Priceless. Down with the sickness indeed!

For the less cultured among the Ilk (this was missed in a previous blog post even after I pointed it out), Google 'Disturbed Down With the Sickness'

Blogger VD May 15, 2015 7:03 PM  

The former will be spun as an SJW victory, the latter as an extermination.

Why do we care how they spin things? Remember your motto, minion, and leave the strategery to your Supreme Dark Lord.

Nothing will top the long term effects of winning over their best efforts to No Award. But No Award is a satisfactory consolation prize.

Blogger automatthew 0062 May 15, 2015 7:06 PM  

JS smells like GG to me.

Blogger VFM 188 May 15, 2015 7:07 PM  

Yes JS! Lack of moral fiber! Lining pockets! Immorality! Asterisks! All of that and tout le monde too!

We don't care.

Blogger Danby May 15, 2015 7:09 PM  

You see, JS, we all know immorality. We acknowledge it in ourselves and fight against it every day. We know what immorality is. Your type don't know what it is because you deny it in yoursleves.
To you "immoral" means "made me feel bad"
To us "immoral" means "violated God's/Nature's law" (sorry for that, but there are Ateists amongst the Ilk). In this case, it would mean we used dishonest, underhanded methods, or violated the rules. Nothing about this operation was dishonest, not a single lie was told, everything was out in the open, indeed, how could it not be, as most of us are not actually in communication outside the related blogs, and within the rules, as acknowledged by the few non-idiots of your side.
So what that was done was immoral?

Suggesting candidates for nomination?

Nominating candidates based on an online friend's recommendation?

Or hurting your feelings and showing the world that the Hugo process is as incestuous and and morally broken as the SFWA?

Blogger Akulkis May 15, 2015 7:11 PM  

Asterisks?

What asterisks?

Put up, or shut up, JS.

Anonymous Donn #0114 May 15, 2015 7:16 PM  

The only thing I care about is whether Malwyn has a whip with six tips or she has six tits.

It makes a difference you know.

Blogger Nate May 15, 2015 7:19 PM  

By the by... Rabid Puppy Radio in at 9 central. the ATF Show Returns!

http://tobtr.com/s/7617383

Or just hit my blog.. link is there too.

Anonymous Anonymous May 15, 2015 7:20 PM  

FND:
Scalzi is concerned that RP and GG will drive incompetent women out of fiction/gaming. See, swj's don't lie, you just have to see what they don't tell us.

Blogger Nate May 15, 2015 7:23 PM  

"The only thing I care about is whether Malwyn has a whip with six tips or she has six tits. "

Are you kidding? Of course she has tits. the only question is if she was actually born on Eroticon-6 or not.

Blogger murphaticlaw May 15, 2015 7:28 PM  

Hell Vox doesn't need to win the Hugo's to line his pockets.

Since stumbling over this foo-foo-fraw I've bought 6 of his books, and 3 books that he's published (Larry and to a lesser degree Brad have also made sales from the deal)

Anonymous BigGaySteve May 15, 2015 7:29 PM  

"And then let Big Gay Steve give Gerrold a big gay kiss."

It would be awkward is someone's boyfriend gave G... a big kiss before the awards, then that person knocked him out for trying to steal his man. It would be like the Jerry Springer show.

Huckleberry...but Vox Day cares very much about winning as it will line his pockets.

The award doesn't line his pockets but all the free publicity does. People now know there is a place for DANGEROUS VISIONS instead of "safe spaces" thanks to all the crying.

Blogger Nate May 15, 2015 7:31 PM  

Its like they never bother to check their naratives for consistency... is Vox the super rich trust fund evil guy... or is he the unsuccessful writer guy that has to game the system to get attention and make money?

these things are mutually exclusive.

Anonymous bgs May 15, 2015 7:33 PM  

these things are mutually exclusive. Things can only be mutually exclusive based on objective reality/truth.

Blogger Nate May 15, 2015 7:36 PM  

true bgs... but remember.. the WSJ article just came out. there is every reason to expect new people to be showing up to see what the fuss is about. dialect will not impress JS.. but it will them.

Blogger Northofdoom May 15, 2015 7:36 PM  

"The asterisk nominees may win Hugos but they will forever be properly associated with
Immorality. When the association issue over and over again, the finger will be pointed at Vox Day the weakling who padded his pockets on the deal. All the asterisk winners will be painted with the brush of immorality and money grubbing."

Who will be pointing fingers?

Who will be painting with the brush of immorality?

Who determines who is properly associated?

How do they intend to excommunicate those who dont desire to belong?

I suspect your morality is determined by something akin to a bot-ridden internet poll.

Like a true SJW you are projecting your fears of group expulsion on others.

Your not just barking up the wrong tree, your out on a limb in the wrong forest.

Anonymous Donn #0114 May 15, 2015 7:40 PM  

A whip and six tits. All is right with the universe.

Blogger Krul May 15, 2015 7:42 PM  

bgs - Things can only be mutually exclusive based on objective reality/truth.

Actually, truth/false and valid/invalid are two distinct axes of evaluation. Hence, propositions can be both false and mutually exclusive.

For example, the propositions "Flumbles don't fly" and "Flumbles fly" are not based in reality, and are mutually exclusive. By contrast, "Flumbles speak" and "Flumbles fly" are not based in reality and yet are noncontradictory (not mutually exclusive, in other words). Despite being untrue in objective reality, they are consistent with each other.

Anonymous BigGaySteve May 15, 2015 7:52 PM  

there is every reason to expect new people to be showing up to see what the fuss is about

If more people are coming here I guess I should have my name link to the place where gays that don't want more taken out of their wallets to pay for LaTrina's 25th illegitimate crack baby. Since we gay conservatives are so rare. Ready for HilLIARy to give back the $40million in donations she took from nations that execute gays while secretary of state.

Obama is trying to lift the ban on gay blood donations now. For such a little increased amount they get the risks like the meningitis outbreak that followed hurricane Sandy in NYC that was tracked back to a bath house. It seems to me its more the work of some busy body childless cat woman envious that gays don’t have to donate at places with mandatory donation. “Sorry I can’t I am gay” just rolls off the tongue.

Anonymous A Reader May 15, 2015 8:11 PM  

I gave up reading the Wall Street Journal around 20 years ago. The reasons:

1. Although the WSJ has a conservative reputation, its news coverage is really Main Stream Media liberal.

2. The WSJ gets its conservative reputation from its editorials. But its absolutely wrong on two issues: war and immigration. The WSJ editorial page has been gung-ho for war for the past 15 years or so--for example it favors the use of force against Syria. On immigration, it favors open borders. For example, it published an op-ed by a practicing attorney which argued that Obama's executive amnesty is legal.

3. I don't find the business information in the WSJ useful. My participation in the business word is as an investor. I get quantitative information and analysis elsewhere.

Anonymous JS May 15, 2015 8:16 PM  

Danby,

You don't fight against immorality. You foster it then roll around in it. You and the ILk and supporters of Vox violate any moral space you enter then laugh.

The asterisk will forever be next to any Hugos you steal.

Blogger VD May 15, 2015 8:20 PM  

The asterisk will forever be next to any Hugos you steal.

Then we will sport them with pride.

Anonymous JS May 15, 2015 8:21 PM  

Northofdoom,

Who will point at the asterisk? Everyone.

Immorality doesn't get rewarded. It gets Acknowledged then is given pity.

Blogger Krul May 15, 2015 8:36 PM  

JS - Immorality doesn't get rewarded. It gets Acknowledged then is given pity.

Words get Capitalized Unnecessarily.

Blogger Russell (106) May 15, 2015 8:40 PM  

How do you Pity an Abstract Concept?

Blogger Nate May 15, 2015 8:41 PM  

"The asterisk will forever be next to any Hugos you steal."

You should think through the implications of what you just said. Should Vox win.. it will mean the Hugos are ours. You, and your pathetic little kind, will be done.

the hugos of the last 15 years will be the ones getting the asterisks. And we will be the ones doing the deciding.

Pray your pathetic little clique still has the power you hope it does little man.

And if it does... then bask it in the sun for one more year. For the sun is low in the western sky... night falls... a time of tooth and claw... and there will be no mercy.

because mercy cannot exist in the realm of apathy.

And one more time..

We don't care.

┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐

Blogger JACIII May 15, 2015 8:44 PM  

"Moral"

You keep using that word. .....

Blogger Northofdoom May 15, 2015 9:02 PM  

"Northofdoom,

Who will point at the asterisk? Everyone.

Immorality doesn't get rewarded. It gets Acknowledged then is given pity."

Everyone?! AAaaaaaaaahhhhhh!

I whither under your overwhelming disapproval. Please, not the smug scowl again! Not the limp finger of outrage! Will I get labeled as problematic?

Blogger Danby May 15, 2015 9:04 PM  

@js
Define immoral



You can't

Blogger Nate May 15, 2015 9:06 PM  

"Will I get labeled as problematic? "

Well... your lack of nuance is problematic.

Blogger Nate May 15, 2015 9:07 PM  

"Define immoral"

sure he can. like every other word it just means whatever he wants it to mean in this particular instant.

Anonymous tiredofitall May 15, 2015 9:10 PM  

"Let them open up their hate and let it flow into me." - VD

Do you really want anything the SJWs/rabbits have to flow into you? Cause you're braver than I am.

Blogger Bruce Lewis May 15, 2015 9:12 PM  

JS is attempting to force his own narrow, parochial definitions of morality upon us. I believe they call that "privilege" nowadays.

JS: for the record, an absolute and universal morality DOES exist. It's the one you might expect -- the one that's not at all inclusive, multivariant, or nuanced. And -- whether you acknowledge it or not -- it applies to you.

Blue SF is the genre manifestation of the Hard Right. The Hard Right is the political and philosophical manifestation of Tradition. And Tradition is nothing but the formalized recognition of Reality As It Is.

And that's why we will win -- "we" as in Blue SF, the Hard Right, and Tradition. We will win because we represent Reality As It Is, with all its immutable moral laws, inequalities, and ties of blood and belief. Your side will lose because you represent an ideology -- an attempt at creating an artificial reality, an attempt to define good and evil, right and wrong, and reality itself on your own terms. Ideology is an artifice, a house built by men pretending to be gods, built upon sand like the Tower of Babel, the sand of Liberté, égalité, fraternité -- the three greatest lies ever told. It can only stay erect by the constant use of force. Our House is built upon Πέτρος, Rock by the God-Man. It needs no external support. That is why our House is still here, while the houses built by your side have fallen one by one. The current one will fall as well.

We will still be here.

Anonymous JS May 15, 2015 9:14 PM  

"the hugos of the last 15 years will be the ones getting the asterisks."

The pitiful ones always believe this.

Blogger Danby May 15, 2015 9:16 PM  

@js
Define immoral



You can't

Blogger Cail Corishev May 15, 2015 9:17 PM  

He notes one irony, though: Any Puppy winning a Hugo will get it from Mr. Gerrold himself or his co-host, author Tananarive Due—a gay man and a black woman.

It's funny that they think this would bother anyone. As if being opposed to homogamy, for instance, requires that you literally fear gay cooties. As if you can't oppose something without hating the people doing it and promoting it.

It's pure projection, of course; that's how they think. If they disagree with you, then they hate you, and merely to be in your presence would cause them fear and pain.

Blogger Cail Corishev May 15, 2015 9:19 PM  

What does a statement like "the most despised man in science fiction" even mean?

It means, "Hey, everybody, in case you didn't get the memo, this is the guy we're all hating this week. Get on it."

Anonymous JC May 15, 2015 9:20 PM  

"The asterisk will forever be next to any Hugos you steal.

Then we will sport them with pride."

We know you will. And we'll pity you just the same.

However, we know that people like you that cheat in their career will also cheat their family, cheat their friends and cheat anyone who takes them into their confidence. The asterik will live forever.

Blogger Blackburn #0040 May 15, 2015 9:24 PM  

I think I kind of like the asterisk thing. When shit finally gets real and it is kill or be killed; when the Fascists like our new friend JS come for us. I'll have a small asterisk tattooed below the corner my eye for each one of them I disqualify from living.

Blogger Marc DuQuesne May 15, 2015 9:25 PM  

The asterisk has been there since '94 as Harlan pointed out. This is the year of the asterisk of the CHORFS will be removed. These Hugo's will have the dagger next to them, a far more fitting symbol.

That many new registrations means a huge pile of new memberships are SJWs. Would those people actually pay their own money just to vote for spite?

Well, the MRK lottery got memberships for 2 of the family members I signed up, hopefully other puppies took advantage and signed up to be subsidized as well.

Anonymous JC May 15, 2015 9:28 PM  

Bruce:
"And that's why we will win -- "we" as in Blue SF, the Hard Right, and Tradition."

It will forever be an asterisk....denoting the immoral margin of science fiction and man. I'm sorry. But it's inescapable. Associating with that crowd only taints you.

Blogger Nate May 15, 2015 9:31 PM  

"It's funny that they think this would bother anyone. "

The only person pissing themselves with rage and feelbads will be Gerrold himself... the whiney fuck.

Blogger Nate May 15, 2015 9:32 PM  

"However, we know that people like you that cheat in their career will also cheat their family, cheat their friends and cheat anyone who takes them into their confidence. The asterik will live forever."

No one cheated you idiotic little fuck. No rules were broken.

Fuck off.

Blogger Krul May 15, 2015 9:33 PM  

Personally, I'm honored to learn that we will always have Asterix by our side.

Anonymous JS May 15, 2015 9:35 PM  

Nate...

The cheating of colleagues will be the source of the asterisk. The embrace of the asterisk will confirm the immortality of the people who cheated and who will always cheat...be it their friends, their family, their neighbors or their community.

The asterisk will mean Shame.

Blogger Cuca Culpa May 15, 2015 9:38 PM  

Asterisk? Barefoot Boy doesn't realize that the last decade of the Hugos have been like the 1919 World Series. (And all this moral preening reminds me of how Piglet went all SJW, despite his creepy reputation... or more likely because of it.)

ignorant half-savage.

That's all, Vox? Hell, my impression was you went totally Moon Man on them. That's nothing.

The RP logo made me *literally* laugh out loud. Try it!

No idea what Stephen King thinks about SP or RP but The Cujos would be a great name for any new (read: unbiased) prize if they decide to implode the Hugos with No Award.

If its any consolation the rumors on twitter that there was a shower scene with Ender & several other boys on the floor got gays to break the boy cot.

Porky's 5: Pee Wee Comes Out?

Anonymous MendoScot May 15, 2015 9:39 PM  

Immorality doesn't get rewarded.

Oh you sad, sad, bitch. Immortality is it's own reward.

Why do you think that the perversos on your side are so upset?

We have taken from them their moment in the sun.

By mocking what they are, in the light.

Rotten and glorying in it.

Yet ignorant of it.

We laugh.

Anonymous JRL May 15, 2015 9:40 PM  

It's funny that they think this would bother anyone. As if being opposed to homogamy, for instance, requires that you literally fear gay cooties. As if you can't oppose something without hating the people doing it and promoting it.

Preach.

Either they can't understand or won't...but it doesn't matter because the point and shriek has served them well.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2012/08/so-you-say-you-dont-hate-gay-people-part-i.html

This post seems typical of that attitude....it's all about the feels.


What do you think opposing their rights feels like to them? Love? Heck no! Actually, it feels a whole lot like hate!


Take it from a gay friend of mine who had this to say when I discussed this issue with him: “From my perspective, I just feel hatred.”

Of course, back in the day I would have said that I don’t oppose gay people’s rights, they have the same rights as anyone else – they can get married, they just have to marry people of the opposite sex. But now I know better.

She knows better, but doesn't refute the statement itself, which is irrefutable. Gay people have always had the same marriage rights as straight. No amount of handwaving, sneering or changing definitions can change the fact.

Then, hypocritically: Gay people don’t want special rights. They want the rights everyone else has – to be allowed to marry a person they love

Which is of course a lie. Nobody wants that to be the definition of marriage.

Anonymous BigGaySteve May 15, 2015 9:43 PM  

JC"However, we know that people like you that cheat in their career will also cheat their family, cheat their friends and cheat anyone who takes them into their confidence. The asterik will live forever."

Nicholas Stix profiles medical professionals that commit fraud. Non Hispanic whites make a smaller portion of the list than work in inner city hospitals. You keep saying the word "asterisk" like it has majik powers, are you hoping if you say it enough times your ass won't be too loose to pass for an asterisk?

Blogger Krul May 15, 2015 9:50 PM  

JS - "The asterisk will mean Shame."

Remember, only despicable bigots use "Shaming language" and "Othering" tactics.

A is for Asterisk!

Anonymous BigGaySteve May 15, 2015 9:55 PM  

They want the rights everyone else has – to be allowed to marry a person they love

Every operating room in the nation has multiple surgeons that work long hours and pull call, that have to pay toward their ex wife's alimony when the vags never earned anything. I certainly wouldn't want to have money taken from me so my leftist ex boyfriends can lay around and do drugs all day. All the gays that are pro gay marriage are hoping to quit their jobs and leach alimony off an ex husband. Leftists always think they are going to be the next commissar not the body in the ditch.

Anonymous JC May 15, 2015 10:09 PM  

Mendo:

Cheating like Vox Day and the puppies is not rewarded. It only serves as a warning to all colleagues, business partners, friends and family that they too will eventually be cheated. And no amount of denial can wipe away the immorality at the center of Vox day's, the Puppies' and their suppoerters' actions.

Anonymous David-093 May 15, 2015 10:14 PM  

JS:

You just don't get it, do you?

We do not fucking care.

Why is that so difficult for you to understand?

Anonymous zen0* May 15, 2015 10:15 PM  

Why did JS become JC for a couple of comments?
Fat finger? Mask slippage?
Asterisk anxiety?
Pity envy?

Intriguing.

Blogger Cail Corishev May 15, 2015 10:15 PM  

I certainly wouldn't want to have money taken from me so my leftist ex boyfriends can lay around and do drugs all day.

I was going to correct you and say that it should be "lie around." Then I reconsidered....

Anonymous JRL May 15, 2015 10:18 PM  

All the gays that are pro gay marriage are hoping to quit their jobs and leach alimony off an ex husband.

It will be interesting to see how it plays out long term. In your experience, what percentage of gay men do you guess would want a sexually exclusive "'til death do us part" relationship?

Anonymous zen0* May 15, 2015 10:24 PM  

@ JC

Cheating like Vox Day and the puppies is not rewarded.

How exactly did Vox Day and the Sad and Rabid Puppies cheat? Do explain. Remember that it is a bog rule that one must answer direct questions to be taken seriously.

Otherwise, your colleagues, employers, social workers, and family will also be subject to your syncophantic moronity.

Blogger VFM #0209* May 15, 2015 10:30 PM  

JS/JC, the Poster Girl for SJW projection.

Blogger Markku May 15, 2015 10:39 PM  

We probably should just give up. They have located the weakness in our master plan. Our Achilles Heel. Drawing a little star next to our name. That is just too horrible to countenance.

Blogger Danby May 15, 2015 10:39 PM  

@JC/JS

Shut up Tad

Blogger Cee* May 15, 2015 10:44 PM  

noooooo im melting

melting

curse you asterisk

Anonymous Nathan May 15, 2015 10:46 PM  

A asterisk of shame? Cool! How many do I need to earn my promotion from Probationary Junior Minion Fourth Class to Probationary Junior Minion Third Class?

Anonymous zen0* May 15, 2015 10:50 PM  

Theodore Beale , TMDMISF AKA VOX DAY*

Devastating.

Its like when the Nazis made the Jews wear a star of David armband.

Anonymous JS May 15, 2015 10:54 PM  

Vox Day is a nigger. There, I said it.

Anonymous zen0* May 15, 2015 11:00 PM  

> Vox Day is a nigger. There, I said it.

Did scoobius escape his handlers again?

Blogger Danby May 15, 2015 11:01 PM  

@JS

Shut up Tad. Shut your fucking whore mouth before I beat you again, bitch.

Anonymous zen0 May 15, 2015 11:06 PM  

@ JC/JS Insert blather here

How exactly did Vox Day and the Sad and Rabid Puppies cheat? Do explain. Remember that it is a blog rule that one must answer direct questions to be taken seriously. This is the second time.

Anonymous JS May 15, 2015 11:09 PM  

Danby:

Is the volley of nasty in you, learned from the ILK? In any case, it is more of what we know from Vox and the puppies: no moral compass.

Anonymous zen0 May 15, 2015 11:11 PM  

> Is the volley of nasty in you, learned from the ILK?

How exactly did Vox Day and the Sad and Rabid Puppies cheat? Do explain.

Anonymous Anonymous May 15, 2015 11:11 PM  

I just want to say that at least one of the 3000 sign ups after the nominations were announced was me (a supporter) and I can't be the only one.

Anonymous JS May 15, 2015 11:16 PM  

Vox Day cheats like a spick nigger. Unfortunate but true.

Blogger Danby May 15, 2015 11:17 PM  

@JS,
No that's how I treat lying bitches. It's better than shrieking effeminate harpies like you deserve, but I'm a kind and giving person.

So shut up Tad.

Blogger IM2L844 May 15, 2015 11:18 PM  

Vox Day cheats like a spick nigger. Unfortunate but true..

One of the predominant consequences of not caring is a complete absence of motivation to deceive. Think about it.

Blogger Danby May 15, 2015 11:19 PM  

@JS,
Is that supposed to be funny? Or are you that retarded?

Blogger Danby May 15, 2015 11:21 PM  

@zen0
Give it up, he's just a troll. A fat stupid lazy faggot troll. He can't even troll properly, but he's trying, I'll give him that.

Blogger harry12 May 15, 2015 11:29 PM  

Somebody has ingested too much olestra.

Anonymous zen0 May 15, 2015 11:31 PM  

@zen0
Give it up, he's just a troll.

I know Danby. But it is customary to demonstrate the failure to respond, thus indicating for the audience the nature of the moron in question.

Why do you bother reviling it? It doesn't care. Just another excuse to spew.
Look at that Marston gimp. You are dealing with severely damaged goods. Terminally marred individuals beyond redemption in this life.

Best leave them to simmer in their own filth.

Blogger Danby May 15, 2015 11:44 PM  

To quote Daffy Duck
It's fun!

Blogger Nate May 15, 2015 11:46 PM  

"The asterisk will mean Shame."

You think you can shame.... us?

BAHAHAAHAHAAHH

look... let me make this clear...

I earn more in a month than you earn all year. statistically speaking.. there is a good chance I own 2 vehicles worth more than your house.

but you think you can shame me?

..


Who's bitch this is?

Anonymous *pseudotsuga May 16, 2015 12:02 AM  

Larry Correia commented on the WSJ article on his Facebook feed. He pointed out that the "journalist" spent 20 minutes talking to him, but only used a few snippets of conversation. The same "journalist" spent a lot more time in the article with the sympathetic figures Scalzi and Martin.
Not reporting, just a SJW with a newspaper byline and salary.
(and I'll wear my hypothetical asterisk with pride, because I will not be shamed out of the stance I was not shamed into taking.)

Blogger automatthew 0062 May 16, 2015 12:48 AM  

Now I start to wonder how many of the trolls lately have been Scoobius playing games.

Anonymous Zion's Paladin (VFM #122)* May 16, 2015 1:09 AM  

Hey, JS, I got a problem. See, I put that asterisk next to my name, but it's not working. I'm just not feeling any shame. Must be broken. Or I'm shameless. Either way.

Anonymous David-093 May 16, 2015 2:10 AM  

@Nate

"Who's bitch this is?"

I believe in the vernacular it's "who bitch this is?!"

Anonymous Jack Amok May 16, 2015 2:11 AM  

Odd, I have a strong urge to go sharpen some knives.

Anonymous Original H May 16, 2015 4:03 AM  

3,000 new memberships AFTER nominations came out? That doesn't smell right.

FWIW, one of those is mine.

$40 looks like a great deal for a bunch of puppy-approved reading materials, with the added bonus of getting to vote.

With Sitemeter reporting this blog having 16k unique daily visitors, I'd imagine there'd be plenty of lurkers like myself who might make the same decision now that the nominations are done, even though we don't care enough to have chipped in before the nominations were done.

Anonymous VFM.0157* fka Forrest Bishop May 16, 2015 4:46 AM  

Zion's Paladin (VFM #122)* May 16, 2015 1:09 AM

Hey, JS, I got a problem. See, I put that asterisk next to my name, but it's not working. I'm just not feeling any shame. Must be broken. Or I'm shameless. Either way.
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Whyja hafta go an do that? Now I want one too. Or maybe a whole collection of them. I'll build an extra room just to house them all. At least it is some tiny consolation, since we faceless ones don't get to even dream of becoming The Most Despised One Of Them All.
And why should the newly-coronated Most Despised One, The Dark Lord of Evil Himself, even care to stoop so low to pick up a few a lousy little Hugos from some cis-normative-land transmanatee after being raised to such glorious heights by no less that the Wall Street Journal?

No amount of advertising dollar can buy that kind of PR- thanks again SJW's!

Anonymous VFM.0157 aka Forrest Bishop May 16, 2015 5:47 AM  

"As for the black hat, I don't mind it at all....Let them open up their hate and let it flow into me."- Vox Day

There is a book by R. Scott Peck, obliquely referenced awhile ago by Vox Day, titled "People of the Lie". I've bought maybe six copies of it and given them all away to people I thought would benefit from reading it, so unfortunately don't have it in front of me. If I remember right, and it has been years, the very last sentence in that book was to the effect that if we take the evil that presents itself to us, take it in and absorb it without return, the whole world is made better. (I'm missing the mark on what Peck said here, but not by too much.)

Many of you practice that in many things, I see, though it may not look that way to the children who happen by from time to time. I've meditated on that thought of Peck's, on and off, and it has always struck me as a bit like falling on your sword. It had seemed like that would dis-empower yourself without affecting anything externally. But maybe, just maybe, The Dark Lord, The Most Despised One, Who's Darkness Outdarkens a Thousand Dark Matters, is onto something here.

Blogger VFM 188* May 16, 2015 8:14 AM  

Also signed up after nominations were announced. Will vote anti-SJW. Their writing sucks.

In return I got a ton of excellent stories to read. Plus a really cool ELoE vile faceless minion number. And now an asterisk too?

Smashing the SJW hegemony is supposed to be its own reward. Yet with these wondrous gifts...our evil cups runneth over!

Blogger James Dixon May 16, 2015 10:47 AM  

> The pitiful ones always believe this.

Nice to hear you'll be switching to our side then, JS.

> And we'll pity you just the same.

Your not capable of pitying us.

> However, we know that people like you that cheat in their career will also cheat their family, cheat their friends and cheat anyone who takes them into their confidence.

Projection at it's finest.

> ... hopefully other puppies took advantage and signed up to be subsidized as well.

Nah. We had the money, so I signed up the person in our family who has time to read the material. We considered it briefly, but there are actually people out there who can't afford the $40. Better to let them have it.

> The asterisk will mean Shame.

Oh, that it will. Of those presuming to assign it.

> Cheating like Vox Day and the puppies is not rewarded.

Oh, this kerfluffle has been more rewarding than you can possibly imagine.

> Why did JS become JC for a couple of comments?

A messiah complex would be my guess.

But, enough fun for one day. It looks like he's headed off to receive his reward from his masters.




Blogger bob k. mando May 16, 2015 11:52 AM  

Nate May 15, 2015 8:41 PM
And one more time..
We don't care.


Militant Apathy, the philo-political system that's sweeping the nation.

Anonymous BigGaySteve May 16, 2015 12:14 PM  

"should be "lie around." Then I reconsidered" lie around on the couch. lay around the back alley then complain SF cops are homophobes.

In your experience, what percentage of gay men do you guess would want a sexually exclusive "'til death do us part" relationship?

I know a few couples that are together 10+ years but they are all in open relationships. I can tell you its a lot smaller than would claim to it. If you went to a gay marriage advocacy convention where peoples significant others stayed at home you could cheat more than a str8 guy at a nursing convention. Mutually exclusive might only be likely where peoples options are limited such as, you got your boyfriend to agree to flee to Whitopia after seeing the results of the food stamp system going down on 10-12-13 for 8 hours in 16 states and not wanting to be in a die verse city for the nigapocalypse that would happen if it went down on the beginning of the month.

JS- Vox Day cheats like a spick nigger. Unfortunate but true. ~ I don't personally know about the nigger part but I do know Hispanics cheat more than Asians and whites. Pretty much no one wants to date blacks on the gay side at least.Thank you for helping answer JRL's question.

@zen0 Give it up, he's just a troll. A fat stupid lazy faggot troll. He can't even troll properly, but he's trying, I'll give him that.

At least you understand what kind of guy wants to receive gay alimony .

Blogger bob k. mando May 16, 2015 12:17 PM  

Markku May 15, 2015 10:39 PM
Drawing a little star next to our name.



teacher is giving out stars for getting Hugos?

oh, the JOY!

Blogger Cail Corishev May 16, 2015 2:29 PM  

The asterisk will mean Shame.

It's a good thing that repeating things enough times makes them true. Otherwise you and your kind would be utterly powerless, wouldn't you?

Blogger Cuca Culpa May 16, 2015 6:53 PM  

Asterix shaming

Blogger Patrikbc #0344 May 16, 2015 11:15 PM  

@scalzi: Hooray for good news I can't tell any of you about yet!

@PatrikBC: @scalzi you were approved for gender reassignment?

Blogger Joe Keenan May 17, 2015 12:10 PM  

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Blogger Joe Keenan May 17, 2015 12:13 PM  

Vox, The Hugo's and other awards of note have been corrupt for decades now, after your crushing win at this years awards I see two paths forward for you and your evil minions:

1. Dominate the awards into the future
2. Correct the failures of the past

Point one being self evidently obvious, no discussion is really needed. Regarding point two, perhaps your publishing house could post a listing of the deserved winners of the World Fantasy and Hugo Awards? The SJW have been corrupting the genre(s) for some time, perhaps part of addressing this corruption is outlining its origins and tracing its advancement.

Blogger Markku May 17, 2015 8:01 PM  

The plan is number 1. There is no reason to try to change past Hugos, as a Hugo is just an answer to the question "what WorldCon membership likes best". And they do answer that question correctly.

Rather, we want to change the make-up of WorldCon membership permanently.

Anonymous jack May 21, 2015 7:55 PM  

Robot authenticate test.

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