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Tuesday, May 26, 2015

You don't like the medicine, doctor?

Glenn Hauman on said:
Dave Freer: No-one has called for a boycott or blacklist of David Gerrold, or Glenn Hauman, or to have their reputations tarnished and Amazon reviews deliberately lowered.

And yet they got bad reviews? What a coincidence! I also didn’t call for a boycott or blacklist, and yet somehow there’s a sudden rash of bad reviews of my books up on Amazon. See http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Engineers-Creative-Couplings-ebook/dp/B000WJSA3I/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8
No, Glenn Hauman didn't call for a boycott or a blacklist, he called for fake negative reviews to be posted on Amazon, fake negative reviews which were immediately posted on Amazon in response to his calls for them.
Glenn Hauman on April 15, 2015
You can game Amazon ratings as well. Here’s a list of all of Mr. Beale’s nominees, complete with handy links to Amazon. It might be a good idea to take a look at the reviews and see which ones are helpful. If you’ve read the works, you should add your own review. Oh, and to answer the title question: what do you do to rabid puppies? You put them down.

Glenn Hauman on May 20, 2015
Just a reminder to all Hugo voters: After you’ve read items in the Hugo packet, you don’t have to confine any reviews of them to your own blogs and social media. Feel free to add them to Amazon as well.
I see absolutely no evidence that the sudden rash of bad reviews of Mr. Hauman's books reflect anything but the opinions of people who have read it and are honestly expressing their disappointment with their inferior quality. After all, absolutely no one has called for anyone to review or otherwise pay attention to his work at all. It must be, as Mr. "Put Them Down" himself has said, a mere coincidence.

And because Public Enemy is always appropriate:

He book-reviewed, he S.J.W'd
Vile minions viewed his anti-Puppy feud

One-star the rating, listen to him double trouble
He signs in now he's pushing for the lower level
Like crashing cars he's out there stealing stars

From books he took without a single look.
Taking a toll 'cause his soul broke with the poll
From the revelation... of a Puppy Nation.

Now this is what I mean an anti-Puppy machine
If Hugo come out at all, he won't come out clean
But look around here go the sound of the wrecking clown
Boom and pound when he put 'em down

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76 Comments:

Blogger Nate May 26, 2015 7:51 AM  

actually some folks have been calling for Gerrold to be removed as MC at Sasquan. Myself included.

Anonymous Daniel #0189 May 26, 2015 8:09 AM  

Hauman's work is highly collaborative and/or anthology dependent, at least for his works on Amazon. I can't imagine that many will see much advantage in partnering with someone in the future who has called for intentionally putting down stars at Amazon.

Glenn "Put Down" Hauman, as an author, has all the makings of sales poison. Perhaps he should consider a career in marketing.

Anonymous ? May 26, 2015 8:12 AM  

The only thing I see for Hauman on Amazon is

Star Trek: S.C.E. #4 No Surrender
Jan 2003
by Mike Collins and Glen Hauman

What else is there?

Anonymous ? May 26, 2015 8:15 AM  

Never mind... spelled it with only one N the first time.

Anonymous d12 May 26, 2015 8:26 AM  

Vox, given your own standard tactics, I'm surprised you are explicitly using the word fake in your accusation against Glenn.

Blogger VD May 26, 2015 8:35 AM  

Vox, given your own standard tactics, I'm surprised you are explicitly using the word fake in your accusation against Glenn.

Why? We already have direct confirmation from some of the reviewers who responded to his first call that their reviews were fakes. If he had simply meant to call for honest reviews, he would not have talked about gaming Amazon ratings or putting down Puppy works.

And, of course, people would not have responded by going out and posting fake negative reviews. His intentions were very clear and were interpreted correctly by Puppies and anti-Puppies alike.

Blogger Nate May 26, 2015 8:45 AM  

racist racists co-opting public enemy for their racist causes.

Blogger Josh May 26, 2015 9:01 AM  

racist racists co-opting public enemy for their racist causes.

Also triggering

Anonymous BigGaySteve May 26, 2015 9:04 AM  

You can game Amazon ratings as well. Here’s a list of all of Mr. Beale’s nominees, complete with handy links to Amazon

Because my CHORFS along with non Asian minorities are too stupid and lazy to get ID for PHOTO ID, or look up stuff on Amazon ~Glenn Hauman

Blogger Cataline Sergius May 26, 2015 9:08 AM  

The hilarious part is wounded tone.

How dare you sir!

How dare you use my tactics against me!!


How on Earth could he have possibly thought he was bullet proof?

Blogger Nate Winchester May 26, 2015 9:12 AM  

Vox, given your own standard tactics, I'm surprised you are explicitly using the word fake in your accusation against Glenn.

You mean like this?
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/its-a-fake

Come now, you know the Super Intelligence leaves memes to the domain of his minions.

Blogger #0006 Hammer May 26, 2015 9:22 AM  

I had recently finished reading TURNCOAT.
I just now clicked on the link in Glenn Hauman's comment, leading to his Amazon page, which contains a part of chapter one of his book. Reading this was torture, particularly compared to the TURNCOAT.
I'm no wordsmith, or even a connoisseur of great writing, but the difference in quality is obvious. It appears to be dialogue, nothing more, no description of the scene, who the characters are, nothing and no-one to identify with. The rest of the book may be better, I wont buy it though. Because I haven't read I also won't rate it.

Blogger Josh May 26, 2015 9:23 AM  

How on Earth could he have possibly thought he was bullet proof?

He drank that coffee blended with butter?

Blogger JACIII May 26, 2015 9:32 AM  

How on Earth could he have possibly thought he was bullet proof?

Check your privilege, paleface. You should realize all the bad things have already been done to him by proxy because he is a champion of those oppressed by racist racists, sexist sexists, rape apologists, etc ad nauseam. He was merely responding in kind.

Blogger Marissa May 26, 2015 9:42 AM  

OT: For such a sexist misogynist, Vox sure has been reading a lot of books by female authors lately. Look at all that Agatha Christie and Tanith Lee. And some lady named Evelyn Waugh.

Anonymous Obvious May 26, 2015 9:57 AM  

"I don't care!" he screams into the world as the blog posts rack up.

Blogger bob k. mando May 26, 2015 9:59 AM  

Josh May 26, 2015 9:01 AM
Also triggering



i think you mean, "tomahawking".

if Hauman's bus gets any shorter he's going to be sitting in the back seat, driving himself to special needs classes.

Blogger Nate May 26, 2015 10:01 AM  

"if Hauman's bus gets any shorter he's going to be sitting in the back seat, driving himself to special needs classes."

The poor guy... gets so frustrated... he wants to lick the window so bad but his big helmet keeps bumping into it.

Anonymous BigGaySteve May 26, 2015 10:01 AM  

These last 2 articles reminded me of the one system of patient satisfaction surveys. We looked them up a week after a fight broke out in this inner city hospital waiting room & the only positive comment was that one doctor was handsome but they system blocked out the name so people teased him it was from a guy. (I saw no reason to be out while doing travel contracts). Another hospital was part of the chain and they had obviously fake positive reviews. One fake positive review I know of was done by a woman who wrote a soft porn letter for a str8 co worker and it was actually put up on a physical wall as a positive comment.

Blogger Stilicho #0066 May 26, 2015 10:14 AM  

actually some folks have been calling for Gerrold to be removed as MC at Sasquan. Myself included.

That's The Trouble With Quibbles....everyone loves their own. but they keep multiplying in unforeseen directions. You'd think the Flatcat plagarist might have realized this...

Anonymous p-dawg May 26, 2015 10:16 AM  

I believe there's an appropriate old wise saying, something about sauces, ganders, and geese, I dunno, I don't really pay attention to wise old sayings.

Anonymous Obvious May 26, 2015 10:18 AM  

"It's okay when WE leave fake reviews because we're Arbiters of Truth and Justice!"

Blogger David-093 May 26, 2015 10:36 AM  

"OT: For such a sexist misogynist, Vox sure has been reading a lot of books by female authors lately. Look at all that Agatha Christie and Tanith Lee. And some lady named Evelyn Waugh."

TRIGGERED

Those aren't really women, Marissa! He's just trying to cover his ass! He still supports puppy rape!

/sjw

Blogger VD May 26, 2015 10:37 AM  

Stop cyberstalking, Obvious. This is your second harassing comment today.

Blogger Daniel May 26, 2015 11:32 AM  

More Hauman than Hauman...why else would he link to David Mack as author and his own contribution a collaboration, rather than link to the one-star review at the book solely authored by him?

Perhaps it is because of this:

"Dr. Elizabeth Lense has had a fine career. She was first in her class at Starfleet Medical - ahead of the genetically enhanced Julian Bashir -- and a hero during the Dominion War, and is now the chief medical officer on the U.S.S. da Vinci. but Captain David Gold notices that her performance has not been up to snuff. She's been listless and stressed, and is delegating most of her responsibilities to the da Vinci's Emergency Medical Hologram.

Her malaise couldn't possibly come at a worse time, because a virus has erupted on Sherman's Planet -- and the planet's entire population, as well as the crew of the da Vinci, are now marked for death by the virulent plague!

Can Lense find her way out of depression to determine a cure? And will the cure the worse than the disease?"

No.

That is not the one-star review.

That is the description of the story.

Blogger V May 26, 2015 11:36 AM  

I award VD both ears and the tail.

Blogger Daniel May 26, 2015 11:40 AM  

I also think the funniest part about Hauman's link is that one of the positive reviews is titled "doubleplusgood" without any irony whatsoever.

It seems as if he is subtly encouraging people to downvote his own work.

Blogger Jim May 26, 2015 12:04 PM  

"She was first in her class at Starfleet Medical - ahead of the genetically enhanced Julian Bashir."

LOL. I love how this is stated as some kind of major accomplishment. "Dude! She's even smarter than a guy who was genetically designed to be super smart!" when Julian explained that he intentionally gave incorrect answers so as not to raise suspicion. It's like if that kid runner at the end of The Incredibles bragged about coming in first and beating super-speed enhanced Dash.

Yeah, so that's the protagonist: someone with an overinflated ego suffering from depression. I just can't wait to read that.

Blogger aut0x3ematthew May 26, 2015 12:06 PM  

"He drank that coffee blended with butter?"

Great taste ... more filling. Wife is making my second one for the day right now.

Blogger BigFire May 26, 2015 12:12 PM  

re: aut0x3ematthew

Actually I would us one of my favor anime (Armor Trooper VOTOMS)'s overly dramatic preview narration: “Chirico has tasted the coffee of Uoodo, and the coffee is bitter indeed.” It'll make sense

Blogger Jim May 26, 2015 12:18 PM  

And the preview for that book is hilarious. He tries to actually write a story, but soon decides scene and action description are too much work and just shows us the transcript from the captain's log: the log of a conversation that is happening right now in the narrative.

And S&S expects people to pay $6 for that. I think the only thing in its favor is that it's 54 pages long, so your suffering will be short.

Anonymous Nathan May 26, 2015 12:20 PM  

"And the preview for that book is hilarious. He tries to actually write a story, but soon decides scene and action description are too much work and just shows us the transcript from the captain's log: the log of a conversation that is happening right now in the narrative."

So, indistinguishable from fanfic?

Blogger Kull May 26, 2015 12:24 PM  

Hey big story we're missing. In the novel description there is the mention of Klingon marrying Jewish woman. Firstly, would the offspring be Jewish? We need a halakhic ruling. Secondly, no Christians or Muslims in Star Trek universe but there are Jews? Does this mean they won? My money was on Mormons. What gives?

Blogger Jim May 26, 2015 12:24 PM  

"So, indistinguishable from fanfic?"

I think you owe an apology to fanfic writers.

Anonymous willneverpostagain May 26, 2015 12:26 PM  

When I read Hauman I keep seeing "Haman" and it seems appropriate that each were (are being) hung on gallows of their own making.

Blogger Stilicho #0066 May 26, 2015 12:38 PM  

So, indistinguishable from fanfic?

It can pay fairly well, even if you have to lie about your blog traffic to create a false sense of popularity in your publisher's mind to get there...

Blogger Nate Winchester May 26, 2015 1:21 PM  

We need a halakhic ruling. Secondly, no Christians or Muslims in Star Trek universe but there are Jews?

Oh you haven't heard about the jokes with Ferengi have you?

Blogger Jack Ward May 26, 2015 1:46 PM  

Nate: anyone. Do any of you have a valid phone number for Sasquan? The number I thought I had was for a guy that used to be their treasurer and is wondering how his private cell number got on credit card statements. I still have not been able to get anyone there to respond to emails and pin lookup attempts.
Thanks.
Oh, internet searches have returned no phone numbers.

Blogger Tom Kratman May 26, 2015 2:11 PM  

If someone needs more evidence of the sheer idiocy of the SJW crowd, note that they don't understand war, yet insist on engaging in it. Yes, this is war. You have to be terribly stupid, no, to insist on starting something you don't understand in the slightest?

Seven of them went after BBDC. They all had their amazon ratings dropped by anywhere from 10% to about 80%. 18 positive reviews, mostly five stars, were posted in rebuttal. And I had a smashing good time. How clever of them, no?

Blogger Jack Ward May 26, 2015 2:22 PM  

Sasquan problems: may have been solved. It looks like pretty darn quick response can be had at the following. My thanks to Glenn and Bruce there.

chair@sasquan.org

Tom above. Yeah, they taking on a Ranger and excellent author is a no win. Are the crosses ready yet?

Blogger Dexter May 26, 2015 2:24 PM  

"Seven of them went after BBDC. They all had their amazon ratings dropped by anywhere from 10% to about 80%."

That reminds me... I went and upvoted some one star reviews.

Blogger Daniel May 26, 2015 2:24 PM  

Scourging the temple was an act of war, too.

Blogger Daniel May 26, 2015 2:25 PM  

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Anonymous Shut up rabbit May 26, 2015 2:27 PM  

It seems as if he is subtly encouraging people to downvote his own work.

Victimhood is the preferred state of the SJW; their Holy Grail. Their ultimate life goal is to gain enough pity bucks through Patreon that they never have to work again. They can then spend all their time eating cake, crying and going on Twitter.

Anonymous Nathan May 26, 2015 2:44 PM  

"It seems as if he is subtly encouraging people to downvote his own work."

$16 for a ebook of an eight year old anthology is enough for a one star.

Blogger Tom Kratman May 26, 2015 2:50 PM  

Tolerably hard to see where it made any diff, Dex.

Blogger Dexter May 26, 2015 2:56 PM  

Of course, I meant upvote the one star reviews of Hauman and downvote the one stars of BBDC.

I have nothing else to do today. =)

Blogger Tom Kratman May 26, 2015 3:24 PM  

Ah, him I haven't been following, though it did occur that he would be subject to a certain amount of reprisal. And speaking of reprisals....

Blogger Tom Kratman May 26, 2015 3:28 PM  

You really need to build the crosses more or less near the site, Jack.

Anonymous Holmwood May 26, 2015 3:37 PM  

@LTC Kratman (Tom),

1) Thanks for the Spanish Civil War history recommendation recently. (Beevor is good and Thomas' work seems to have shifted steadily to the centre -- from the left -- over the decades, perhaps along with the author).

2) This negative review issue is interesting. I really didn't like "Come and Take Them," fifth in the Carrera series. Given a free copy for review, I couldn't do it, because I couldn't get past Hamilcar in Chapter *One*. It was an "Oh John Ringo No" issue.

I concluded (largely properly, I think) that I was an idiot for agreeing to try to comment on a book in a series that well advanced.

Time passed. I read and loved your Big Boys Don't Cry. I'd have voted to nominate it even without it being on any list. As a perceptive commenter here said, you made the inhuman human, even humane. SJW authors make the human both inhuman and inhumane.

And then in the most recent contretemps, you yourself suggested googling Tom Kratman, Space Marine (for the images). And I found a glorious and ridiculous trashing of the first Carrera book.

Good grief! Tom Kratman in a book? Space Al-Qaeda? Space-UN? Fantastic! All the sneers were read by me as something that would be quite interesting.

(Sure, John Scalzi, an author of reasonable skill, writing himself into a book sounds pretty boring. Tom Kratman, writing himself into a book, while terrible from a literary standpoint, sounds kind of fun from a reader's perspective.)

So I've started reading the Carrera series, as I should have, from the get-go. And yeah, it's pretty good. Not BBDC good, but enjoyable. Thanks for that.

As for Hauman, he writes freaking quaternary Star Trek tie-ins. Those things review themselves.

-Holmwood

Blogger Tom Kratman May 26, 2015 3:46 PM  

You can go to Aeoli Pera's blog for why Carrera isn't the tie in people, some people, think. Now I _am_ in there, but I am not him.

Blogger Tom Kratman May 26, 2015 3:54 PM  

As a German statesman of the 20th century observed, to paraphrase, "By defending myself against the [SJW], I am doing the work of the Lord."

Blogger Tom Kratman May 26, 2015 3:56 PM  

Oh, and further note that A Desert Called Peace and Carnifex were written as one book, Holm, but it was simply too long to bind. Hence, there is a relatively high prep to action ratio in the former, as compared to the latter.

Anonymous Banjo May 26, 2015 4:56 PM  

I enjoyed BBDC immensely. I won't claim to have been moved to tears, but I certainly felt the fingers on my heartstrings.

That's one of the few SF stories I've recommended to my wife.

Anonymous Holmwood May 26, 2015 5:03 PM  

"As a German statesman of the 20th century observed, to paraphrase"

I'd have characterized that statesman as a proto-SJW. Come on. Cynical use of language, vegetarian, teetotaler, staunch suffragist, prudish? Toss in some random bigotry and a desire to exalt certain types of Science with a capital S, and you've got an SJW. A piker compared to the Georgian Djugashvili, but still seemingly SJW.

"written as one book, Holm, but it was simply too long to bind." The Tolkien problem. He did rather well. Being an engineer, I've no issue with one volume being overbalanced in prep vs action. Your point noted if I get all review and literary minded due to some sudden IQ decline.

Aeoli Pera's blog looks really good. As for who Tom Kratman is in Carrera, I shan't be looking assiduously, but rather at enjoying the read.

Cheers,
-Holmwood

Blogger Tom Kratman May 26, 2015 5:09 PM  

Well, tactically there's not a lot of difference, nor should there be, given that both are extreme. But the strategic approach, improving man through genetics or maintaining superior man through same, versus improving man through training, education, propagandization, and relentless nagging, or maintaining him there through those and social engineering, are different.

Anonymous Curious but not an SJW May 26, 2015 7:02 PM  

This bit from Steve Sailer seems to relate to things of late:

Last spring, Billboard’s chart compilers replaced the old corruption-prone system — which relied on store manager’s reports — with SoundScan, a computerized tally of retail sales. SoundScan revealed that marginal genres have much stronger sales than previously thought. Nirvana — and N.W.A., Garth Brooks, and Metallica — wouldn’t have come close to No. 1 under the old system. Of course, the charts don’t just report tastes; they also amplify and shape them.

Anonymous GreyS May 26, 2015 7:19 PM  

What was that about Time Preferences? How dumb or shortsighted as an author do you have to be in order to call for fake reviews of other authors' works!?!? How dumb do you have to be to think that playacting "Who? Me?" would get you out of it?!?!

Does he also drive around in a glass car and throw rocks at the kids hanging around the quarry??

Anonymous zen0 the Concerned May 26, 2015 10:08 PM  

@ Obvious

>Man, I wonder what you consider all those screeds about Scalzi!

I think he might consider them reasoned and well documented criticisms, and not screeds at all, like a vast majority of sensible human beings might do.

Unfortunately, your demonstrations of unstable emotionalism highlight your inability to even understand what a reasoned and well documented criticism entails.

Have you not followed your medication schedule diligently? Studies show that can be quite a common problem with incontinent internet commenters.

Anonymous Obvious May 26, 2015 10:22 PM  

"You're on meds! HURR HURR HURR! I made a funny!"

Haven't you read the blog rules? Responding to me is verboten.

Blogger Dexter May 26, 2015 10:29 PM  

How dumb or shortsighted as an author do you have to be in order to call for fake reviews of other authors' works!?!?

He is the author of Trek tie-in fiction, after all. Anyone with much brainpower wouldn't be interested in generating such drivel.

Blogger Harsh May 26, 2015 11:02 PM  

Haven't you read the blog rules? Responding to me is verboten.

Oh fun, the latest Gamma sighting. Soon we'll be regaled with tales of his superior intelligence and moral righteousness. Never gets old.

Anonymous zen0 May 26, 2015 11:09 PM  

"You're on meds! HURR HURR HURR! I made a funny!"

Not being funny. I have at least a 20% chance of being correct. Judging by your response, maybe 80%.

Anonymous Obvious May 26, 2015 11:09 PM  

... I thought everyone agreed that the blog owner is the supreme intelligence around these parts?

Blogger bob k. mando May 27, 2015 12:56 AM  

Tom Kratman May 26, 2015 2:11 PM
And I had a smashing good time.



you finally got to hang somebody off of a crucifix?


Obvious May 26, 2015 11:09 PM
... I thought everyone agreed that the blog owner is the supreme intelligence around these parts?



that's funny.

Vox himself has noted that he's not the most intelligent person he grew up knowing, nor is he the highest documented IQ on the blog.

and before you try a "you seem to be saying ...", that's not a veiled reference to myself. i have no idea what my own IQ is, other than being high enough to be a National Merit qualifier.

Blogger VD May 27, 2015 3:52 AM  

That's five harassing comments posted in a single day at a place where you know you are banned, Obvious. You are cyberstalking. That is a criminal activity and you need to stop this behavior now.

Blogger Tom Kratman May 27, 2015 4:03 AM  

"you finally got to hang somebody off of a crucifix?"

Not quite that good.

Blogger VD May 27, 2015 5:58 AM  

Make it six now. What a surprise, the harasser doesn't believe he's harassing anyone despite the fact that he has been repeatedly told he is neither welcome nor permitted here.

I wonder if Obvious is shocked when the bouncer doesn't let him back into a bar after throwing him out. Or if he just keeps walking into people's houses after they make it clear that he is not welcome there.

You are trespassing, Obvious. You are cyberstalking. You are harassing people. You can do whatever you want on your own site, but you are not permitted here and I am not going to force everyone to register simply because you are determined to keep harassing this blog.

Now grow up and go away for good. You tried to claim I'm harassing John Scalzi by exercising my free speech rights on my own site, but the fact is that Scalzi only had to ask me once to not comment on his site and I never commented there again. Go and ask him, he'll confirm it. Your behavior is observably far worse than mine has ever been.

Stop cyberstalking. Stop harassing. If you have something to say, do it on your own site.

Anonymous Obvious May 27, 2015 5:05 PM  

*laugh* "for my own good" ?!

Shall you misinterpret some other words and phrases and write MORE five paragraph essays?

Blogger Harsh May 27, 2015 7:27 PM  

Actually if you read a little more closely, he said "go away for good" as in "forever."

It's patently evident that a Gamma like you doesn't know how to do anything for your own good, so why would he bother to say that?

Blogger Tom Kratman May 27, 2015 8:07 PM  

German? At page 16: http://www.solargeneral.org/wp-content/uploads/library/foreigners-around-the-world-p-j-o-rourke.pdf

Anonymous Obvious May 27, 2015 11:23 PM  

A Gamma, eh? You classified me in a bogus socio-sexual system from just my comments mocking the blog owner? I'm impressed. :)

Blogger Harsh May 27, 2015 11:24 PM  

That's the perfect Gamma reaction.

Anonymous Obvious May 27, 2015 11:44 PM  

Glad I could help you validate your theories.

Blogger Harsh May 27, 2015 11:49 PM  

It's not my theory, it's fact.

Anonymous Obvious May 28, 2015 12:09 AM  

Sure!

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