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Friday, June 26, 2015

Don't mess with Texas

The Texas governor fires a warning shot:
“The Supreme Court has abandoned its role as an impartial judicial arbiter and has become an unelected nine-member legislature. Five Justices on the Supreme Court have imposed on the entire country their personal views on an issue that the Constitution and the Court’s previous decisions reserve to the people of the States.

“Despite the Supreme Court’s rulings, Texans’ fundamental right to religious liberty remains protected. No Texan is required by the Supreme Court’s decision to act contrary to his or her religious beliefs regarding marriage.

“The Texas Constitution guarantees that ‘[n]o human authority ought, in any case whatsoever, to control or interfere with the rights of conscience in matters of religion.’ The First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution guarantees the free exercise of religion; and the Texas Religious Freedom Restoration Act, combined with the newly enacted Pastor Protection Act, provide robust legal protections to Texans whose faith commands them to adhere to the traditional understanding of marriage.

“As I have done in the past, I will continue to defend the religious liberties of all Texans—including those whose conscience dictates that marriage is only the union of one man and one woman. Later today, I will be issuing a directive to state agencies instructing them to prioritize the protection of Texans’ religious liberties.”
- Gov. Greg Abbott, Texas
Not bad. I'd rather see the governor declare independence, but it's a start.

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169 Comments:

Blogger DaveofSpades June 26, 2015 8:25 PM  

Wow. This is going to drive the SJWs apoplectic.

I need popcorn.

Anonymous Sparx401 June 26, 2015 8:27 PM  

What a nice reprieve amid all the #LoveWins BS and crappy corporate logo recolors today.

Anonymous Curious but not an SJW June 26, 2015 8:27 PM  

A state of disobedience!

Anonymous WhiteKnightLeo #0368 June 26, 2015 8:27 PM  

This was a statement by the governor. A declaration of succession requires a vote of the state legislature, and they don't reconvene for a while.
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This is why I find the idea that 'America is dead' to be a little premature. America will be dead when no one believes in it anymore.





Just finished having a debate with someone who tried mightily to connect gay marriage opposition with interracial marriage opposition, and demanded that I acknowledge that SCOTUS 'settled' the issue.

So I asked him how 'settled' he considered the 1st and 2nd Amendments in light of Citizens United and Heller. I asked him if those decisions changed his opinion.

His response? "Heller will die, and Citizens United will die (probably shortly after its intended target is elected President)."

So I responded "Thanks for answering my question: you are obviously incapable of being intellectually honest in a debate, because you don't actually accept the premise that you are demanding that I accept. Have a nice day."

And when I pointed out that SCOTUS decisions had been overturned before, he said "LIBERAL decisions are never overturned". He declined to answer how Heller and Citizens weren't pro-freedom decisions.

Anonymous Stilicho June 26, 2015 8:29 PM  

Exactly. Autonomy one small step at a time. Once states get a taste for it and the feds' money train falters or goes off the rails, there's a real opportunity for increased liberty.

Anonymous RTaylor VFM0362 June 26, 2015 8:29 PM  

Ah... I had just emailed Vox about this. Should have hit refresh.

Anonymous USC minded June 26, 2015 8:32 PM  

The Supreme Court certainly has the right to do what they did. All they did was give a new interpretation of an existing phrasing in the 14th Amendment.
How is that wrong? The SC has done that numerous times throughout history.

Anonymous Dr. J June 26, 2015 8:33 PM  

For those who tire of the endless SJW fist-pumping, feel free to throw this right back at them.

If, however, you are already at peak apoplexy, save it for tomorrow. It's a tough read.

Blogger Bobo #117 June 26, 2015 8:33 PM  

God Bless Texas.

As a Louisianian, you have no idea how it pains me to say that.
Our Gov is a pencil-necked sell-out geek. Crabs wouldn't eat him...

Blogger Daniel June 26, 2015 8:43 PM  

Oh, America is dead all right.

Just like GamerGate.

I strongly considered leaving the Federal Union just before the hilarious Bush/Gore election, but now I am glad I stayed for the grand unmasking.

If it is possible to GFT in Ioway, that's me. And now that democracy is officially dead in the US, the termless oligarchs have no fig leaf left.

The villains have finally come from behind the curtain. I am envigorated.

Yes, I am a sick, sick man.

Blogger bob k. mando June 26, 2015 8:46 PM  

7. USC minded June 26, 2015 8:32 PM
All they did was give a new interpretation of an existing phrasing in the 14th Amendment.



no contract signed under duress is considered valid.

every Confederate state signed the 14th under duress. three northern states ( New Jersey, Ohio, Oregon ) rescinded certification.

therefore, the 14th amendment was never Constitutionally passed into law.

Anonymous PhillipGeorge©2015 June 26, 2015 8:50 PM  

Only slightly off topic but SCOTUS isn't even a minyan, that ancient version of a "community" - based on ten good men. They might be able to make law if they were.
The hypersonic, nuclear tipped Exocet missile is Jury Nullification - such a shame no-one's ever heard of it. It's the reality that grown up sovereign human beings can judge for themselves and their community what's right and wrong. It isn't just powerful, you don't actually have civilization without it. Pig ignorance isn't civilization. IPads and freeways have clouded your vision.

Anonymous Nathanael June 26, 2015 8:51 PM  

"Come and Take It"
Texas flag, Battle of Gonzales 1835

Anonymous USC minded June 26, 2015 8:52 PM  

Bob, I'm talking about equal rights to being married.

Anonymous VFM #0264 June 26, 2015 8:52 PM  

I'm so glad Abbott was elected over Dewhurst. I'm trying to imagine how much further along we might be if it had been Abbott, rather than Perry, who was in charge the last 15 years. Perry has his virtues (my favorite moment was when he told the Europeans to stuff themselves when they sent a concern-troll style objection to our 200th execution), but taking chances was generally not one of them.

Anonymous Stingray June 26, 2015 9:06 PM  

My Wordpress stats page has a rainbow banner across the top of it now because of the SCOTUS ruling. Might be time to close shop.

OpenID mattse001 June 26, 2015 9:07 PM  

When Jade Helm was announced, some citizens got nervous. Instead of mocking his own constituents, like happens so often in D.C., Abbott promised to keep an eye on them.
Very little fuss, and everyone was treated with respect.
It's like he's the anti-Obama.

Anonymous khan June 26, 2015 9:08 PM  

No Texan is required by the Supreme Court’s decision to act contrary to his or her religious beliefs regarding marriage.

Milquetoast. The ruling didn't require that.

Anonymous Stickwick June 26, 2015 9:10 PM  

My Wordpress stats page has a rainbow banner across the top of it now because of the SCOTUS ruling. Might be time to close shop.

I was thinking the same thing. You have to wonder how dumb these companies are to ostentatiously pick a side that is unpopular with a majority of Americans. (That goes for the Confederate flag nonsense, too.)

Blogger bob k. mando June 26, 2015 9:12 PM  

14. USC minded June 26, 2015 8:52 PM
Bob, I'm talking about equal rights to being married.



i don't give a fuck what you're talking about.

you cited as authority an amendment which was NEVER constitutionally passed into law.

Blogger Bard June 26, 2015 9:13 PM  

Jamieintx,
Told ya!

OpenID mattse001 June 26, 2015 9:16 PM  

Here's a link Instapundit had about what will happen next, given Canada's legalization of gay "marriage" 10 years ago. Bottom line: persecution.
If we keep to ourselves, the left will be happy to pick us off in small groups. We need a sanctuary city/state that tells the Feds to buzz off.
http://www.therebel.media/canada_legalized_gay_marriage

Anonymous Earl June 26, 2015 9:17 PM  

"The Supreme Court certainly has the right to do what they did. All they did was give a new interpretation of an existing phrasing in the 14th Amendment.
How is that wrong? The SC has done that numerous times throughout history."

Let's review:
The supreme court has interpreted laws in the past.
Therefore it is not wrong.
Therefore the supreme court has a "right."

I feel like there is a lot lacking in this theory of jurisprudence of yours. What do you call this school of philosophy?

Anonymous T June 26, 2015 9:17 PM  

Oh shut up USC. I'm a gay man, so I'm more than qualified to smack you down, because it offends me that you pretend to speak for me.

Marriage is about children and posterity and stable families for said children. Children naturally come from opposite sex relationships, so it should obviously be the basic definition of marriage.

Redefining it for a few people who want to feel better is lunacy. You freaks are taking society for granted, and there will be Hell to pay when people realize the damage that has been wrought.

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Anonymous Dr. J June 26, 2015 9:24 PM  

You have to wonder how dumb these companies are to ostentatiously pick a side that is unpopular with a majority of Americans.

And here's what is reads below the Google search bar right now:

"YouTube and Google are proud to celebrate marriage equality. #ProudtoLove"

Blogger Eric June 26, 2015 9:26 PM  

The supreme court has interpreted laws in the past.

Let's not forget the supreme court gave itself that right. It's not actually anywhere in the constitution.

Blogger Chiva June 26, 2015 9:28 PM  

Nicely said T.

America will be dead when no one believes in it anymore.

You can believe in America as much as you want, but if you not willing to fight for America then what is your belief?

Anonymous DT June 26, 2015 9:29 PM  

Milquetoast. The ruling didn't require that.

Implying lower courts won't fill it in for them.

I don't believe in America any more. I could possibly believe in Texas.

Blogger HalibetLector June 26, 2015 9:32 PM  

I was thinking the same thing. You have to wonder how dumb these companies are to ostentatiously pick a side that is unpopular with a majority of Americans.

Welcome to the Silicon Valley echo chamber. Most companies and people who live there don't realize they're in the minority on this issue. They were flabbergasted that Prop 8 passed because nobody they knew voted for it.

Anonymous Difster VFM #109 June 26, 2015 9:35 PM  

Glad I'm already in Texas. There is at least hope of a reprieve.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales June 26, 2015 9:37 PM  

@WhiteKnightLeo

Leave it to an atheist or possible agnostic to elevate a piece of land on a map with people in it to deity status. I really do wonder what would happen if you ever met one of those Mao fanatics.

Anonymous JRL June 26, 2015 9:45 PM  

Well well well. A governor with some cojones.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales June 26, 2015 9:46 PM  

Okay. Since everything that happened in the last few days is getting in the way of me writing any kid friendly pros stories even worse than my natural neurosis, I feel like dusting up my barely used edition of Final Draft and writing a rebellion story based on this ruling and etc. I originally had an idea where, after a Muslim president became elected, Shariah was put over the entire country and nights of long knives were happening every where, but if the rainbow brigade are going to replace the Hadjis, how would I have to change the scenario to be a bit more plausible?

Anonymous Difster VFM #109 June 26, 2015 9:47 PM  

#ImpeachSCOTUS

Anonymous Poli_Mis June 26, 2015 9:50 PM  

Blood boiling.

Anonymous Donn #0114 June 26, 2015 9:52 PM  

Paging Col. Kratman to the red phone.

Blogger WATYF #0222 June 26, 2015 9:56 PM  

Bob, I'm talking about equal rights to being married.

There is no "right" to marry (or rather, to have the State sanction it).

WATYF

Anonymous bill June 26, 2015 9:57 PM  

"You have to wonder how dumb these companies are to ostentatiously pick a side that is unpopular with a majority of Americans."

Chipotle has done that too.

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/26/love_wins_this_awful_chipotle_brand_tribute_does_not/

Blogger CM June 26, 2015 9:58 PM  

They were flabbergasted that Prop 8 passed because nobody they knew voted for it.

That came out of the closet and admitted it, anyway.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales June 26, 2015 9:59 PM  

I find this ironic, since, according to Breitbart, Texas has begun issuing licenses to rainbow brigadiers.

Blogger Harsh June 26, 2015 10:01 PM  

Bob, I'm talking about equal rights to being married.

This is quite simply one of the most moronic statements I've ever seen here. You SJWs think you're smart? Too funny.

Blogger macengr June 26, 2015 10:01 PM  

"I was thinking the same thing. You have to wonder how dumb these companies are to ostentatiously pick a side that is unpopular with a majority of Americans."

80% of millennials believe it's okay, is what I've read. So I guess they see them as their core audience.
Link - http://www.pewforum.org/2015/06/08/graphics-slideshow-changing-attitudes-on-gay-marriage/




Blogger Mark Citadel June 26, 2015 10:02 PM  

1) Texas secede
2) Instate Texan monarchy
3) Instate official Church
4) Purge all Liberals, starting in San Antonio. A grand inquisition.

Anonymous patrick kelly June 26, 2015 10:02 PM  

I will never fly the US flag again, and am looking for a big Lone Star Texas flag to fly.

This is a good start to things that are going to be rough for a while.

I'd like something along these lines:

No official of Texas, our counties or their local governments will issue marriage licenses for same sex couples. Any such certificate is null and void and will not be honored by Texas.

Texas will not assist or participate in any activity or action by the fed gov't to initiate or honor any such license. We will not provide any assistance to any gov't agency attempting to do so.

Texas will not arrest, prosecute, fine, bill or take or assist in any action against any Texas who resists such licensing in Texas.

It will be necessary for the US gov't to invade and occupy Texas under indefinite martial law in order to take such action. If they decide that is necessary and proper, bring it on Mo'Fos.....better pack a lunch.....

But I ain't governor, never will be, so this is not likely to happen....but I can dream....

Blogger Tom Kratman June 26, 2015 10:06 PM  

:How is that wrong? The SC has done that numerous times throughout history."

The second sentence is not an answer to the question. One short version is that the 14th Amendment was never intended to do what it's been stretched out of shape to do. On the other hand, it was used to good effect in recent anti-gun control decisions, though those - given disarmament of the freedmen that the 14th _was_ intended to protect - were closer to original intent.

One suspects that Roberts was, as another lawyer suggested in a different thread, trying to do what Taney tried and failed to do with Dred Scot, namely head off a problem before it becomes impossible to deal with. Instead, though, he's pushed the country that much closer to breaking up.

Hmmm...I think I need to push up my timetable. A military chaplain, possibly a Roman Catholic chaplain, will be ordered to perform a gay marriage within a year, possibly six months, and just maybe in as little as two months.

Anonymous WhiteKnightLeo #0368 June 26, 2015 10:09 PM  

@Emmanuel

So your response to your fellow-traveler's refusal to lose hope is to smack him? That's lovely.

Blogger automatthew June 26, 2015 10:10 PM  

The declaration of independence will likely happen during IlkMoot.

Anonymous BGS June 26, 2015 10:10 PM  

They did this on a Friday to go with NYC pride weekend.
feel free to throw this right back at them.
They where held up as model parents also. You can tell leftists this is the future they chose, this guy will be paying for their retirement.
http://ovenworthy.com/watch-this-young-boys-weird-trick-for-fighting-homophobia/

Anonymous The One June 26, 2015 10:10 PM  

I'm currently visiting Austin, Tx, it's a shithole. Can anyone recommend nice places more in line with the governors view, how is San Antonio?

Blogger Cail Corishev June 26, 2015 10:11 PM  

You have to wonder how dumb these companies are to ostentatiously pick a side that is unpopular with a majority of Americans.

They're assuming that, while the normals may be offended, they won't be offended enough to change their buying habits. Also, since they made sure they're all in on it to the same degree, no competitor will be able to poach their normal customers. On the other hand, they know the freaks would be on them like a bad rash if they didn't cheer. And it's not like they're reluctant anyway; the customer relations departments that handle this stuff are a natural entry point for SJWs.

It's going to be hard to boycott on this one, since every large company appears to be on board. I saw one list of 50 companies, and while I don't buy much brand-name stuff anyway, I saw that I wouldn't be able to buy soda -- Coke and Pepsi are both rainbowed -- and it doesn't look like you'd be able to fly on any large airline. No shopping at chain department stores. No using any major search engine (thankfully, duckduckgo.com still appears to be rainbow-free) or online retailer. It might be easier to make a list of companies that aren't on board with this. Looks like Hy-Vee stayed out of it, so I still have a place to get groceries.

Anonymous The One June 26, 2015 10:13 PM  

Didn't see comment 43. So what places aren't filled with liberals in Texas?

Anonymous BGS June 26, 2015 10:13 PM  

) Purge all Liberals, starting in San Antonio. A grand inquisition.

Austin would be a ghost town.

Blogger automatthew June 26, 2015 10:15 PM  

"USC minded" is an obvious liar and troll.

Stop responding, dudes.

Anonymous Jourdan June 26, 2015 10:16 PM  

There is only one Texas, of course.

But I grew up in a Republican state, a state whose people had a proud attachment to their rights and liberties.

So much so that when our state supreme court refused in case after case to enforce the death penalty, we used the near-unique rights our forefathers won to fire that court's chief justice and three of her colleagues.

And when, a few years later, the state sought to radically expand its powers and budgets, we used another state constitutional tool to cut them off at the knees, bypassing our state legislature and keeping the state's taxation power to a minimum.

And we thought we had won.

We thought we had won, you see.

It was all an illusion. Even as we celebrated, our elementary schools were filled with the people the powers-that-be had designated to replace us.

And so they did, and so died that state and it's unique and proud history.

Oh, the symbols are still there: a bear instead of a lone star. But they are empty, serving only to grace the corner of the checks the new population receives in exchange for a job well done.

Tejas, Tejas won't be any different.

Anonymous JRL June 26, 2015 10:17 PM  

I will never fly the US flag again

I agree. There is an America I love. This is not it.

Now Texas, maybe. We'll see.

Anonymous Stg58 / Animal Mother #225 June 26, 2015 10:19 PM  

Y'all come on down! Texas. It's like a whole other country!

Signed Licensed Open Carry (a good start) and campus carry into law

Vetoed Common Core Backdoor legislation

Appointed homeschooling mom to chair the State Board of Education

Signed bill establishing the Texas Gold Depository

Signed Pastor Protection Act

Issued directive protecting state employees and suppliers from religious persecution

Governor Abbott is off to a good start!

Blogger bob k. mando June 26, 2015 10:19 PM  

45. patrick kelly June 26, 2015 10:02 PM
It will be necessary for the US gov't to invade and occupy Texas



kind of funny you'd say that while Jade Helm is coming up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jade_Helm_15_conspiracy_theories

Anonymous Donn #0114 June 26, 2015 10:21 PM  

BGS - I am scared to death to open the link. My imagination knows no bounds when it comes to liberal gays and kids. Heck, I feel like I am writing to a mythical creature whenever I read your stuff. I've known a fair number of gays and never met a conservative one (or one that admitted to being conservative in my entire life).

Anonymous rubberducky June 26, 2015 10:22 PM  

Texas keeps trucking down the right path. The answer for all these problems in the United States lies there in plain sight. It's Article Five of the US Constitution. The states can hold a convention and dictate to the feds. The president, the Congress, the Supremes, have no role in this. None. The states can take back the union.

Conservatives have an inordinate fear of this, however. They just "know" they're going to be screwed by it, and what will result will be worse than what the Founders came up with. That's a somewhat valid concern, but consider this:

WE HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION HAPPENING RIGHT BEFORE OUR EYES.

And it's one run by nine unelected lawyers who dress funny, and by a leftist president with a pen and a phone who openly mocks tradition and Constitutional precedent, and by a Congress that was formerly thought to be hiding in a cave somewhere but which has now been found out to be open cheerleaders for their own denuding of power.

So, what is better? Is it better to have our Constitution re-written by this lot, or to have it re-written or re-enforced by 50 bodies of duly elected representatives who are A) Accountable, and B) NOT a parade of dancers for the Potomac Two-Step?

The salvation for the American republic is built in. It's there. Have a convention of the states (NOTE: They used to have these with some frequency. Why did they stop?).

The alternatives are this 1) submission to tyranny, or 2) another civil war.

It's a no-brainer. Americans need to stand up and demand a convention of the state. They have to.

Or, they will be very, very sorry indeed.

Blogger automatthew June 26, 2015 10:22 PM  

"I'm currently visiting Austin, Tx, it's a shithole."

In that area: Taylor, Smithville, Salado. Bastrop is being colonized by the Austin degenerates.

Blogger Cail Corishev June 26, 2015 10:23 PM  

Just think if, say, a dozen states whose people already voted against this told the SCOTUS, "We Don't Care. Make all the obviously unconstitutional rulings you like; you only harm your legitimacy. You have no authority to make law, and we categorically reject this attempt to do so. We will continue to execute the laws faithfully according to the US constitution and the constitution and laws of our state."

What could the SCOTUS do? Nothing. Is Obama going to run out the troops to a dozen different states to enforce this? At much as he might like to, I don't see that happening.

So it's just like smaller-scale encounters with SJWs -- if you just don't care what they do and treat them as such, they're powerless against you. SCOTUS has no ability to enforce this other than what the states surrender to it. Unfortunately, I suspect Texas is the only state that has an inkling of the power of "We Don't Care," and they only partly get it.

Blogger automatthew June 26, 2015 10:23 PM  

"Tejas, Tejas won't be any different."

Curb your tongue, knave.

Anonymous Jacobsson June 26, 2015 10:23 PM  

It's funny. I didn't quite understood secession and exit until recently. I know there are tens of millions of American citizens that I share common ground with, yet there's no leader out there willing to speak for us.

It's quite the opposite. My government is hostile to me and my values. We are left huddling around our devices, reading blogs for validation.

I don't particularly care for the Confederate flag. But I know that once you concede a finger to the SJWs, they'll use that as evidence to take the arm.

Suddenly, conversations turn to Jefferson. He owned slaves.

My deal would be this: take the whole damn thing, tear it all down and let us leave. We'll take it with us.

What used to sound like crackpot theory feels very real to me now

Blogger David-093 June 26, 2015 10:23 PM  

Governor Abbot sounds like a good one. Now all I'm waiting for are the defeatists and cynics to point out some minor flaw that "proves" we can't support him.

Anonymous Roundtine June 26, 2015 10:25 PM  

I will never fly the US flag again

I was watching some Dixie videos on YouTube the other day and one of them put a U.S. flag in there, and when it came up I did get a negative feeling. And I'm a $#%#$^ Yankee.

Anonymous RTaylor VFM0362 June 26, 2015 10:28 PM  

For a general idea of the political leanings in Texas... by county:

http://northwestspatial.com/criticalatlas/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/texelectresults2.png

Blogger Daniel June 26, 2015 10:29 PM  

Today's predictable decision finally provides the opportunity for a new front:

So, Vox, when might we expect your list of recommended Supreme Court Justices? We only need five.

Heck, too ambitious. let's put 3 imams on the bench and enjoy the fruits of diversity.

Anonymous Stg58 / Animal Mother #225 June 26, 2015 10:31 PM  

Rubber ducky,

Read this, then let me know if you still want a convention.

http://oathkeepers.org/oktester/why-the-article-v-convention-must-be-opposed/

Blogger Clint June 26, 2015 10:34 PM  

@ The One - most of the cities in Texas are hit and miss with libs, etc. Some neighborhoods are OK, but others are crap. If you want true Texas, go rural.

Anonymous Thobby (#58) June 26, 2015 10:34 PM  

"'It is eighteen years,' I cried. 'You must come no more!
We know your names. We know that you are the dead.
Must you march forever from France, and the last, blind war?
'You fool! From the next!' they said."
-- Stephen Vincent Benet, "1936"

Anonymous rubberducky June 26, 2015 10:34 PM  

Stg58, I'm fully aware of those concern. Do you understand mine that, regardless, we've got a constitutional convention underway right now? And one the states have no say in?

Anonymous patrick kelly June 26, 2015 10:35 PM  

@The One:

Where you from? Austin is a shit hole compared to where and why?

One thing you'll find about many "liberals" in and around Austin is many of those who celebrate this rainbow ruling also celebrate firearm ownership, property rights, and other versions of "leave us the fk alone and let us live like we want" sentiment. Only place I've met republican biker dykes packing 1911's......

That doesn't excuse other goofiness and their beloved "keep Austin weird"-ness, but it's different......crap, this is sounding like "our faggots ain't like your faggots", which is not my intention, just trying to provide a little relative context.....

The surrounding areas are a bit more red....but Austin blue is still mostly a Texas shade of blue......but what do you expect....we brought you ol' MMO'hare and Roe v. Wade..........no place is perfect....but I'm still looking for that large Lone Star flag.......


Anonymous Stg58 / Animal Mother #225 June 26, 2015 10:36 PM  

Rubberducky,

Article V will not improve things. All the Constitution says is the successful application of enough states will prompt Congress to take charge.

Anonymous End of the Line June 26, 2015 10:39 PM  

We now live in a land where the so-called intellectuals defend NAMBLA on the basis of free speech and condemn and ban a flag revered for its symbolism of rebellion against authority on the basis of morality.

It's not really America anymore, and I see no reason why any Christian or Southern patriot should send their sons and daughters to die for it. It's a leftist oligarchy now. Let the sons and daughters of the leftist oligarchs die for it.

Anonymous patrick kelly June 26, 2015 10:39 PM  

"http://oathkeepers.org/oktester/why-the-article-v-convention-must-be-opposed/"

It's going for broke....you better be willing to face the break-up and balkanization of the US....probably going to happen anyway.... is it necessary to hurry it now?

Anonymous rubberducky June 26, 2015 10:42 PM  

Stg58,

That's just wrong. What emanates from convention of the states under Article 5 is fully equivalent to an Constitutional amendment. Equivalent force. It plainly, plainly states that the results from a convention of the states "shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states"

Federalist papers back up this view. This is the state's escape valve from an usurping federal government.

Blogger Jack Ward June 26, 2015 10:45 PM  

43. Mark Citadel June 26, 2015 10:02 PM

Almost right; I admire that. Step four should be 'starting with Austin'
Austin may be the most liberal city in the USA.

Time to re-read Kratman 'State of Disobedience' I've already read it several times but, damn, Gov. Abbot has called the dance. Now, all they need is a Texas National Guard commander like the one in Tom Kratman's book. And, some luck. Hell, it could end up like Davy Crockett was supposed to have said to Congress ' You can go to Hell, I'm going to Texas.' And, he did.

Blogger VFM bot #188 June 26, 2015 10:45 PM  

We need a sanctuary city/state that tells the Feds to buzz off.

If you live west of the Mississippi and want to stay, google "American Redoubt." If you live east of the Mississippi google "Free State Project".

Anonymous cecilhenry June 26, 2015 10:48 PM  

I see that Wordpress has indeed joined the PC banner.

Have to remove myself from their blog site asap.

Anonymous The One June 26, 2015 10:50 PM  

Thanks automatthew and rtaylor. I'll go take a look.

@Clint

I'm from a big city so can't go rural, also I work in the medical field so I need a big hospital around the area.

Anonymous rubberducky June 26, 2015 10:53 PM  

It seems to me the future of the US comes down to these hopes:

1) The current political process will correct itself. We'll get a GOP president who will reverse, fix, improve, and redirect all the mistakes of the current regime and restore balance to the Constitutional order.

2) The current political process will lead to the inexorable greater good. Trust the march of human progress.

3) We'll have a convention of the states to slap back the crazy.

4) We'll have a civil war.

I expect readers of this blog to see the flaws in positions 1) and 2). That leaves us with 3) or 4).

Where am I wrong?

Anonymous Stg58 / Animal Mother #225 June 26, 2015 10:56 PM  

Position 3 is wrong as well. There are so many if's in that option it's not worth pursuing.

Blogger VFM bot #188 June 26, 2015 10:58 PM  

@The One. Every rural county in America has a county hospital, so you're probably in good shape.

Anonymous The One June 26, 2015 10:58 PM  

@Patrick Kelly

From NYC. Escaped that hell hole to join the freestateprojecr in NH. Problem is they don't realize their success is from being 90%+ white surrounded by 2 90%+ states. So they are liberal regarding free trade, religion, etc. easily see myself being from a hospital 5yrs from now for wearing my cross.
Anyway Austin being s shithole=spiritually dead. It almost has a similar vibe to Salem, Ma where I literally couldn't breath.

Anonymous Sparx401 June 26, 2015 10:59 PM  

For those who are tech-savvy enough, you could always use Jekyll and Github Pages if you're jumping off of Wordpress, Blogger, etc.

Anonymous The One June 26, 2015 11:00 PM  

*being fired

Blogger Raggededge June 26, 2015 11:00 PM  

Here is what our TN governor, Bill Haslam had to say on the subject:

“The people of Tennessee have recently voted clearly on this issue. The Supreme Court has overturned that vote. We will comply with the decision and will ensure that our departments are able to do so as quickly as possible.”

Gee, thanks Bill, way to have a backbone...

Anonymous Stg58 / Animal Mother #225 June 26, 2015 11:00 PM  

The One: live in Spicewood or Dripping Springs, drive in to the emergency centers in Bee Cave. You might even see Sandra Bullock walking around.

Anonymous patrick kelly June 26, 2015 11:03 PM  

General collapse could reduce the power of the feds to where they can't hold things together and regions split off, officially or just in all practical matters. This makes a civil war unnecessary and unlikely.

I'd prefer some miraculous natural swing of things back in other directions like 1 & 2, but I honestly think that's a fairy tale at this point in history...unfortunately.....I'm getting old........chances of a comfortable retirement are nearly non-existent now......best I can hope for is an honorable death fighting against something evil for something good...............

Anonymous patrick kelly June 26, 2015 11:05 PM  

@The One: "Anyway Austin being s shithole=spiritually dead."

Come to the dark side....we orthodox sport snazzy black robes and hats with beards..... ;-)

Anonymous hausfrau June 26, 2015 11:08 PM  

I have a sneaking suspicion that this gay marriage travesty will be followed shortly by a notable increase in opposition to homeschooling. Through hate speech laws, or maybe without them, CPS will start paying far more attention to prophessing Christian families. If they can't drag us over to their side they will go after our children. Withdrawing from government institutions like marriage licensing and public school only enrages them.

Anonymous The One June 26, 2015 11:10 PM  

Sandra Bullock, I believe Vox has a weird obsession with her.

Yea, I saw a lot black hats in borough park, Brooklyn.

Thanks everyone for the help, will check out these places over the coming days.

Blogger automatthew June 26, 2015 11:11 PM  

"You might even see Sandra Bullock walking around."

I used to work at the Randall's in Bee Caves. Store practically shut down when she'd come in, everybody gawking.

Anonymous rubberducky June 26, 2015 11:12 PM  

Stg58,

I understand your concern, which I did describe before as reasonable. You do not seem to understand my points that:

1) Members of a convention of states are both elected and accountable and also not a part of the Washington, DC culture. And, a majority of them are conservatives, and they do not have central paymasters, and they have vastly different concerns and obligations. The opposite is true in Washington, DC. Washington's a small town, really. It's a fishbowl governing an ocean.

2) I cannot emphasize this hard enough: WE HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW BEFORE OUR EYES. It is in progress. Well, if we are going to have one, why don't we get our own guys in there? Are we and are the states currently represented well in this? Well, no! We aren't represented at all.

3) Please refer to point number 2.

4) Please refer to point number 2.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales June 26, 2015 11:12 PM  

@hausfrau

My God... how the hell did I did not think of that yet? That's so plausible it's a fucking guarantee now.

Anonymous Stg58 / Animal Mother #225 June 26, 2015 11:15 PM  

Rubberducky,

You have more faith in your state legislature than I do.

Blogger David-093 June 26, 2015 11:20 PM  

"If they can't drag us over to their side they will go after our children. Withdrawing from government institutions like marriage licensing and public school only enrages them."

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” -Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Remember in light of that, what Charlie Wade said in Open Range:

"Some things naw at a man worse than dying."

Anonymous rubberducky June 26, 2015 11:24 PM  

Stg58,

I'm hardly a fan of my state legislature. But I'm even less of a fan of civil war and a fan of submission to tyranny. Article Five is there, on the table.

Use it. Exhaust it.

It can work, too. And it has better chance of working than leaving things to Washington, DC.

Let's tap that vein.

Meanwhile, buy more ammo.

Anonymous Stg58 / Animal Mother #225 June 26, 2015 11:27 PM  

Rubberducky,

I agree that we should buy more ammo.

Anonymous hausfrau June 26, 2015 11:27 PM  

I gotta say guys, it has always creeped me out when ideologues and academics wax poetic about how much they really care about "the children" and how much they want to change lives, you know children who belong to other people.
This class of evil little trolls view people, especially children, as chess pieces to be moved around according to the greater good. Very soon, raising your kids in a "hateful", close minded environment will be grounds for investigation.

Anonymous The other robot June 26, 2015 11:29 PM  

Isis seems to know how to deal with it.

Blogger JaimeInTexas June 26, 2015 11:33 PM  

Back from a supper with friends, celebrating a birthday.

Bob, I echo your statement on the 14th.

I will keep my exhuberancy in check. When the metals repository and exchange is setup, that is what I am really waiting on. Will foreigners begin to move their metals to Texas? Will Texas begin interposing instead of capitulating as already done on previios issues?

For now, the bell rings nice. Time will tell if it is hollow.

Blogger automatthew June 26, 2015 11:35 PM  

"Article Five is there, on the table"

Words, words, words.

Blogger CM June 26, 2015 11:38 PM  

Alabama is not issuing marriage licenses.

Anonymous Stg58 / Animal Mother #225 June 26, 2015 11:46 PM  

If you're curious how an Article V Convention will go, simply take every article from the 2012 presidential election and replace the terms "caucus", "state convention" and "National Convention" with "Convention of States".

Blogger JaimeInTexas June 26, 2015 11:53 PM  

But it may be the "get out of jail, er unionn" free card. :)

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales June 27, 2015 12:00 AM  

To illustrate a point about the importance of self-defense and of firearms, is it wise to push your own father if he happens to be a pacifist around?

Blogger Doom June 27, 2015 12:08 AM  

Meh. All that was stated is that queers can marry, but some won't be required to marry them. Lots of hot air, no substance.

If the statement read that there is no such thing as homosexual marriage, regardless of what the courts say, that would be something. This is just another way to pacify. 'Give them everything they want, but tell them off. That'll fix it!' Like shit it will. More political double-talk. 'We surrender, angrily!' Yeah... shut up.

Anonymous rubberducky June 27, 2015 12:17 AM  

This is the maddening problem. Article V is the one best means to avoid war. Just like 1859, people prefer war.

I'm under no illusion. The United States will either devolve into tyranny or it will erupt in war. Can't say when, who knows, there's "a lot of ruin in a country". But that's the track we're on, unless we can derail it from that track.

We can do so by a historical triumph by the right people in elections. Good luck with that. Even Ronald Reagan was a domestic failure in the end, having failed to curtail the accretion of power by the feds, and we have no one of Reagan's stature on the deck despite the bewildering array of candidates.

The Democrats are leftist wingnuts who actively egg on the destruction of the country with a myopic eye and inordinate love of "change", which will bite them in the ass.

The Republicans lack any real leaders and they have taken to falling about the place seeking to fine-tune the radical ideas of the left. They present as Democrat-Lite, but the vector runs to the same target.

Two ways out exist. One is a rejection of Washington via Constitutional, legal and peaceful mean. That is the avenue provided by Article Five. The other is open, armed revolt.

You can hope that we'll work it out peacefully and gracefully as the genius of our political system kicks in and the Constitution rides in to save the day. Scant evidence exists for that hope, given that the Constitution is little more than an appetizing morsel for vultures these days.

You can hope that some great white knight Republican will emerge and wrest back the chain of events. But not, as I said, even Ronald Reagan fundamentally failed on this front, to his consternation, and he was a deep-soul figure of which we have none on deck.

If we're going to have war, let's have it. I want it sooner than later, as a matter of fact, because I'm getting older every day and I'd rather be at war today as a 50 year old than twenty years later as a 70 year old. In any case I'm going to fight the left with all I've got, those demonic bastards.

But, if we can head off their tyranny at the pass, let's do it. Let's do some lawfare, do a convention of the states while we now have an advantage over them on the state legislature front, and cut their damned knees off while neutering the central power of the federal government at the same time.

Or, we can play the game of the defeatists and skeptics of this board tonight and just well, ... keep on keepin' on and hoping the worm will turn.

Have that damn convention, or don't. Either way, if it doesn't work out, war will come.

War will come if the convention doesn't work out. So the convention is the only way to head it off.

Blogger JaimeInTexas June 27, 2015 12:29 AM  

I have been contemplating, for a long time, rewriting the Constitution of these uSA. I may just do it.
Key aspects will include secession explicit, inherent, non-revokable; explicit power against the FedGov's usurpations by member States AND individuals; explicit individual rights that all member States must protect and honor; defining of origin jurisdiction to be the SCOTUS to the exclusion af all inferior federal courts; etc.

Anonymous rubberducky June 27, 2015 12:42 AM  

Wake up, Americans. The left is nullifying the Constitution each day, and the pace accelerates as Obama's second term hurtles towards its end. They have the SCOTUS on their side, they have somehow managed to get a supplicant Congress out of McConnell and Boehner even after a historic electoral rejection of the current regime, and they have the ball and the mojo.

That past election meant nothing, Congress gave up the power of the purse before the newly elected members even figured out where the bathrooms were. Corker surrendered the treaty power of the Senate, and the TPP deal surrendered Congressional oversight of a process that threatens to surrender sovereign matters like immigration and industrial matters like emissions to the review of foreigners.

The upshot of all that is you, as a voter, are disenfranchised. When the Congress ignores the clear mandate is has been given, when it shirks its duty by passing off its say in the matter to bureaucrats, then Congress has disenfranchised you.

Your vote didn't mean a damn thing last November, America. Obama, Congress, and this week the Supremes all totally ignored you.

Wake up, rally the states, slap down Washington.

Use Article Five.

Anonymous Mike M. (Minion 315) June 27, 2015 12:43 AM  

Take a close look at the spending provisions of the Confederate Constuitition. Copy those. Then add term limits, Real Residency (a Congerssman must sleep 183 nights/year in his home state), and a requirement that no SCOTUS justice can live closet than 50 miles from the Capital.

It'll be.a good start.

Blogger James Higham June 27, 2015 12:44 AM  

This sickness will surely be challenged as unconstitutional.

Anonymous JI June 27, 2015 12:48 AM  

Woop-de-doo. My friends from Texas always celebrate the tough independent attitude of that state. But I always compare to Arizona and find Texas a bit wanting. For example, take gun laws. I remember my buddy boasting that Texas now allowed open carry with a permit. I pointed out to him that Arizona had ruled concealed carry with a permit unconstitutional because no permit should be required. I find Texas to be pretty much all talk. And just look at Austin, the San Francisco of the mid-west. (And yes, I did say mid-west, any look at a map will show Texas to be squarely in the middle of the country.) So although Texas is far better than most of the US regarding these social issues (although I wasn't impressed when Governor Perry issued an executive order requiring all adolescent girls to receive vaccines against sexually transmitted diseases), it certainly has some very liberal elements and a great deal of hypocrisy. I won't hold my breath for Texas to truly stand up for what's right. Heck, they just whimpered and whined a bit when Pres Bush (their former governor) threw the southern border wide open with a big Bienvenida to all comers from down south. But for all their tough talk, it was Arizonans who were the Minutemen patrolling the border (and yes, I know, what came of that? nothing, but at least they walked the talk while Texans did not).

Anonymous Culture War Draftee #151 June 27, 2015 1:01 AM  

Jeez, I had no idea that there were this many Texans in the Ilk. Anyway, if you want old-school Texas, head up to Cross Plains. Nice folks. Howard Days is always a blast.
I got the gov's orders in my e-mail today. It was basically a re-statement of religious freedom. I had too many other things on my plate to study it carefully. I used to work for Greg Abbot a few years back. I like him.

Blogger Russell (106) June 27, 2015 1:04 AM  

Just changed Google as my search engine for DuckDuckGo, and deleted both my wordpress sites.

I'm afraid if this keeps going on like this, I'll end up surfing the Internet like Richard Stallman or something.

Blogger automatthew June 27, 2015 1:05 AM  

Look. The thing about Texas is that none of the talk -- by any side -- matters. Or is paid much attention to except for eye-rolling.

Politics? We don't care. Building codes? We don't care.

Yeah, if you're bold or stupid enough to live in a city, you're gonna get tagged when you build your giant brick charcoal burner.

Who does that, though?

None of this talk matters, until somebody actually tries to stop us from doing what we see fit.

Blogger automatthew June 27, 2015 1:07 AM  

Russell,

No matter how bad it gets, there's no need to fear plants or eat your toe-jam. Stay strong, brother.

Blogger automatthew June 27, 2015 1:07 AM  

"Law is for asses."

Charles Fucking Dickens.

Blogger automatthew June 27, 2015 1:11 AM  

Culture War Draftee,

I drove through Cross Plains last week. 36 to 279.

One of these days, I'm going to take a vacation and stop at every small town I normally blow through.

Anonymous Culture War Draftee #151 June 27, 2015 1:14 AM  

automatthew, the Howardheads were there 6/12-6/14. REH is the man.

Anonymous Culture War Draftee #151 June 27, 2015 1:19 AM  

Dang it, the spam filter whatsis ate my comment (yes I sound like a geezer). Anyway, I was in CP 6/12-6-14 for Howard Days. I never miss it.

Anonymous paradox June 27, 2015 1:36 AM  

You have to wonder how dumb these companies are to ostentatiously pick a side that is unpopular with a majority of Americans.

These companies are not stupid, they are catering to their consumers, working on free market principles. They believe a super majority of Americans (gay or straight) like this gay shit. I mean really, what are you going to do against this rainbow cartel of companies? Not buy their products? They could care less, they'll replace you with a fairy. And some of those companies are imposable to avoid, credit card companies and banks.

We might have one chance to snipe one... everyone one you know... blown up allover social media to every conservative... laser precision boycott... on only one of these companies. Then it hurts their sales.... that could put the fear of God into the rest of them.

Anonymous Noah B. June 27, 2015 1:49 AM  

The judo move here is to toll with it and get the states totally out of the marriage business, including divorce, alimony, etc. I get the feeling that Alabama may already be heading in that direction.

If we can manage that, and stop the state forcing people to take part in religious ceremonies they don't condone, we could turn this into a win.

Blogger Russell (106) June 27, 2015 1:51 AM  

Must. Resist. Siren. Song. Of toe-jam....

Hmm, come to think of it, that might explain emacs.

Anonymous paradox June 27, 2015 2:00 AM  

If we can manage that, and stop the state forcing people to take part in religious ceremonies they don't condone, we could turn this into a win.

I undersand what you're saying about states out of marriage. However, forcing people to do religious ceremonies isn't something the state marriage business even requires. A justice of the peace will marry anyone... no religious ceremony required.

Now once the states are out of the marriage business, I'm sure the feds will fill that void, with their own federal marriage licenses.

Anonymous Noah B. June 27, 2015 2:09 AM  

"Now once the states are out of the marriage business, I'm sure the feds will fill that void, with their own federal marriage licenses."

And that's fine. Like everything else the feds are involved in, their version of marriage will be a pathetic mockery of the real thing. The government's involvement in marriage has had no practical benefit for men for quite a while now, and traditional marriage will be stronger with government having no part in it.

Blogger Cee June 27, 2015 2:17 AM  

Even StackOverflow was getting in on the nonsense today. It made work extra-irritating.

Blogger Wes June 27, 2015 2:37 AM  

God bless Texas.

Blogger GoldRush Apple June 27, 2015 3:11 AM  

>>USC minded June 26, 2015 8:52 PM: "Bob, I'm talking about equal rights to being married."

Every time someone brings up the "equal right to being married" in defense for same-sex "marriage" I wish a kitten dies. And a puppy. And I wish the cute little jumping spider is squashed.

Anonymous TroperA June 27, 2015 3:23 AM  

Okay, could someone more talented than I make a friendly looking cartoony logo of one man pounding another man in the ass (with the poundee smiling and giving a thumbs up?) Then place the words "OUR COMPANY LOVES BUTTSEX!" underneath the logo. Then print out thousands of thousands of thousands of stickers containing the logos and then place them on the front door of every business that has supported this gay marriage ruling.

Now when any soccer mom goes into the business, she'll see front and center exactly what all of the flowery and feelgood language surrounding this issue is actually supporting. When she calls the company to complain about the sticker(s), they'll be forced to decry the logo (and thus, indirectly, decry what the logo is representing.) Then those of the Ilk could blackknight and say "How could you criticize something so beautiful and wonderful? The physical union of two people who love each other dearly and want to celebrate their love with monogamous matrimony? That's what this picture represents! Only a slope-browed shitlord would take it down!"

Companies that want to support this thing, should OWN this thing. Own ALL of it!

Blogger GoldRush Apple June 27, 2015 3:43 AM  

>>Trooper A: "Okay, could someone more talented than I make a friendly looking cartoony logo of one man pounding another man in the ass."

This sort of makes me want to watch straight porn in order to cleanse the picture that came up when I read this.

Blogger dfordoom June 27, 2015 4:00 AM  

I have a sneaking suspicion that this gay marriage travesty will be followed shortly by a notable increase in opposition to homeschooling

Homeschoolers will be labelled as dangerous extremists. Their children will be taken away from them. The Republican Party will of course fully support the push to outlaw homeschooling.

It's not a possibility - it's an absolutely rock-solid certainty.

Of course it may be necessary to get the Supreme Court to rule that the Constitution forbids homeschooling, that homeschooling violates children's rights. That won't be a problem.

I believe homeschooling is already illegal in most of Europe. And yes, they can and will take your children away from you. But don't worry, your children can always be adopted by a nice lesbian couple.

OpenID standingagainsttheworld June 27, 2015 4:18 AM  

@hausfrau

No doubt CPS will use the pretext of "Abuse"(Social, psychological or sexual) or "Cults" to interfere or break up homeschooling.

Blogger Mark Citadel June 27, 2015 5:57 AM  

I can only laugh at the people saying "USE ARTICLE #5!"

For crying out loud, when are you going to wake up! The entire system is structured so Conservatism loses every time. The system needs to go, by any means necessary.

Anonymous Stilicho June 27, 2015 6:00 AM  

Hausfrau, those democrats and other leftists have the same interest in your sons' minds that NAMBLA has in their bodies and for much the same reason...

Anonymous Laz June 27, 2015 6:08 AM  

JI: " I find Texas to be pretty much all talk."

I can agree in general but, when it comes to protecting you and yours Texas is great. I know a handful of people that have had to use their weapon. Only 2 went to the grand jury, and they were no-billed.

Anonymous Stilicho June 27, 2015 6:14 AM  

One of the more interesting things about this gay marriage debacle is how the sjw's have set themselves firmly against the interests of women who are or who would like to be married. Some of the uber-feminist sjw's understand this but most do not. The inevitable, hysterical clash of interests will be epic once most women realize how much this threatens their interests.

Blogger Rantor June 27, 2015 6:57 AM  

Red State recently ran an article on FireFox browser. Seems they were once 25% of the market, in May Down to 11.7%. The writer gave them 36 months or so before they are no longer viable. The boycott process (and competition from Chrome) appear to be working.

Anonymous Thobby (#58) June 27, 2015 7:10 AM  

People seem to have forgotten that as recently as my own childhood (mid '60's-mid'70's), homeschooling was officially frowned upon all over the U.S., and illegal in many jurisdictions. The pro-homeschooling wave was one of the many good things that came out of the Reagan years.

OpenID simplytimothy June 27, 2015 7:50 AM  

A plain reading of the text of the SCOTUS decision clearly says that same-sex mirage is the law of the land. However....

(Robert's rules for Constitutional Jurisprudence)

Blogger Parrothead Al June 27, 2015 8:00 AM  

I will be flying the Texas flag on July 4

OpenID simplytimothy June 27, 2015 8:12 AM  

Re; Wordpress Rainbow.

I prayed about it and asked and I am now working for the day when they repent and remove it themselves.

God gave it to us as a reminder and I will honor God by keeping and preserving His sign even when the pagan heathen scum appropriate it as a symbol of their depravity and rebellion.

Regarding Coke etc...I refused to buy another Pepsi when they modified their logo at the time of Obama's election. When I am coding, I consume just under 2 liters of Diet Coke per day. I just took what Diet Coke was on my pantry shelf and poured it down the sink. I may decide to buy their products when they repent of their sin too.

I chose who I will serve many days ago and I still choose that today.

wp-admin->settings->tools->available tools->export will dump an xml file to your harddrive.





Anonymous Ain June 27, 2015 8:18 AM  

There's some decent carbonation machines for home-use out there. You can make your own if there are no viable companies.

Anonymous paradox June 27, 2015 8:46 AM  

When the feds announce they will be marrying, churches should be ready. Fed agents will give the fairies an armed escort to church, and the pastor will perform a religious ceremony. A federal shotgun wedding.

Anonymous Rip June 27, 2015 9:01 AM  

http://theadvocate.com/news/12761270-123/louisiana-holds-the-line-on

LOL @ Texas.

Blogger JaimeInTexas June 27, 2015 9:02 AM  

My daughter is in transit home, from a church camp in Colorado. A speaker spparently talked about churches having made the govetment an idol. I will get more details tonight, after she gets home.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler June 27, 2015 9:12 AM  

If Texas announces its "independence" what happens to all the pensions of the military retirees in Texas? Or what about all those Social Security recipents? Medicare? Food Stamps?

Do we think of the consequences? Those problems will defeat any Texas Independence idea or program. The majority of Texans, on the Government tit, will not opt for Texas Independence. The South during the Civil War had no connections to the Fed Gov. Now, many common citizens do. Face it, State Sovereignty is gone; nullified by the Fed. Government Program.

Anonymous paradox June 27, 2015 9:15 AM  

Texas should immediately be stockpiling ammunition. Hell, if need be make a state owned weapons & ammunition factory. And for heaven's sake, give the militia(citizens) a basic training. A Swiss type militia, is needed now.

Anonymous Father of 10 June 27, 2015 9:15 AM  

Gov Abbott's comments were very politically worded and not very strong. But they were better than what was coming from most of our "leaders". If Gov Abbott wants to do something, why doesn't he call all Texas Guard and Reserve troops back from Federal duty and close our southern border. This will be a truly ballsy move instead of the half moves he has made so far. It is time to tell the fedgov we will not obey you, and then see what happens. Then we can decide if we want to declare independence or if there is any hope of improving the fedmonster from the inside.

Blogger James Dixon June 27, 2015 9:26 AM  

> Alabama is not issuing marriage licenses.

Expect more states to join them.

Blogger Patrikbc#344 June 27, 2015 9:33 AM  

Yet another reason to go house shopping while at Ilkmoot.

Blogger JaimeInTexas June 27, 2015 9:41 AM  

JI

Texas has an invasion problem. Sure, Mexican immigration is a big problem but they do not vote. Most of the immigrants from other liberal States in the union do vote. And vote just as they did wherever they come from. Austin reeks with Californians.

Anonymous Ain June 27, 2015 10:05 AM  

W.LindsayWheeler: If Texas announces its "independence" what happens to all the pensions of the military retirees in Texas? Or what about all those Social Security recipents? Medicare? Food Stamps?

Do we think of the consequences? Those problems will defeat any Texas Independence idea or program.



I don't expect the US to start falling apart until the money runs out.

Blogger Cail Corishev June 27, 2015 10:16 AM  

Gov Abbott's comments were very politically worded and not very strong. But they were better than what was coming from most of our "leaders".

Right. Most Republicans were so mealy-mouthed you couldn't tell whether they supported or opposed it. Rubio tweeted something about how he hopes we can just all get along, to which I replied that I'd like a pony.

People who snipe at a governor because he didn't instantly declare independence are trying to hamstring their own side before it can get started. Typical. With friends like them....

Anonymous Mark Call June 27, 2015 10:24 AM  

The people "called by My Name" don't need to wait for Texas, even though it's nice to see a governor there with at least a hint of cojones.

BUT -
What the SCOTUS did was to teach Amerika who they SERVE. (I call 'em "Black-robed priests of ANOTHER god" for a reason!)

Read "Held" on page 1 of the decree:
"Held: The Fourteenth Amendment requires a State to license a marriage between two people of the same sex and to recognize a marriage between two people of the same sex when their marriage was lawfully licensed and performed out-of-State."


Since Caesar licenses 'marriage' -- he will define that term for those who are his. Licensed 501c3 "churches" - you have ALREADY been warned.

SO: "Choose this day Whom you will serve." And, IFF you serve YHVH rather than the 'traditions of men' -- "come out of her".

PS> In 103 pages of decree, NEITHER the word "Bible" nor "Scripture appears even once, in spite of all the crap about "tradition". Clarence Thomas (dissent) is the only one who even uses the word "God".

This thing speaks volumes - but only to those with "ears to hear" and "eyes to see".

Texas can come along when it's ready. But His people have already "come out".

Anonymous Whitey McWhite June 27, 2015 10:28 AM  

CM: "Alabama is not issuing marriage licenses."

Good.

Anonymous BGS June 27, 2015 10:40 AM  

If Texas announces its "independence" what happens to all the pensions of the military retirees in Texas? Or what about all those Social Security recipents? Medicare? Food Stamps?

If they leave the country they can still get their pension and social security. Illegal aliens are getting social security benefits now. They can give buss tickets to the liberals on benefits.

Blogger Jack Ward June 27, 2015 10:43 AM  

@157. Gov. Bentley has stated that Alabama will issue licenses to the freaks. Apparently, the probate judge of Pike county Alabama has issued a notice that Pike will no longer issue ANY marriage licenses.
There were plenty of gay marriages in Ala. since the edict by our jack booted masters in Washington.
Roy Moore, Chief Justice of Alabama, hit the roof though I haven't read his remarks yet.
Bentley also said he agrees with the 81 % of Alabama folk who disagree with the new law. Now, whether the state will back up the ministers and others who refused to marry gays we will see.

OpenID mattse001 June 27, 2015 10:56 AM  

Scott Walker just announced that he supports a constitutional amendment which states only the states shall have the right to define marriage. Maybe useless, but who knows? It is a direct repudiation of the SCOTUS' usurpation of power from the citizens.

Anonymous Susan June 27, 2015 11:05 AM  

#62 Cail,

As mealymouthed and spineless as most of the governors are right now, Obama doesn't need to send troops. All he has to do is send 1 or 2 of his DOJ thugs to each state and they will tie the states up in enough red tape to last them to the end of their terms. Of course if they comply, it will magically all go away.

Troops? Obama don't need no stinkin' troops. Not any more. It is nice to know that at least one politician elected is keeping his word. Good for Governor Abbott.

Anonymous Anonymous June 27, 2015 12:54 PM  

I am a little surprised that there is so much surprise by scotus shenanigans this week. Why is anyone surprised that fedgov judges rule that there are no limits to the power of fedgov legislature to delegate authority to fedgov bureaucrats under the fedgov executive to do whatever the hell fedgov decides it wants to do?

Why does anyone expect the fedgov to limit fedgov power?

daedalus mugged

Anonymous Sheila June 27, 2015 1:26 PM  

Abbott's comments are a promising start, but I wouldn't hold my breath. All of Texas' metropolitan areas are rotten with Californians, New Yorkers, and Chicagoans who've brought their mindsets with them. When I stopped voting nationally, I also stopped voting locally - after years of seeing every candidate I voted against win, and every tax issue I voted against as well. There are plenty of hospitals for those looking - just keep away from the one designated as the county hospital to take all the welfare and section 8 recipients - because those are increasing so fast I would swear they are being bussed in. Pretty much every suburb in the DFW area is infested with either blacks, Mexicans, Arabs, Indians, or Chinese. We're looking at small towns outside those areas, with not too high an average income that would attract the feds' attention. Use dotmap and schooldigger as well, to get an eye on the population trends.

Blogger JaimeInTexas June 27, 2015 2:59 PM  

Sheila. I am near NASA-JSC. My address is a Houston address, though. You are correct ... unfortunately. The mayor of Houston, any of them in the recent past, is prima facie evidence.

Looking forward to see the term interpose/interposition becoming a word used in the news.

Anonymous Craxis June 27, 2015 6:24 PM  

Counties started issuing marriage licenses to same sex couples yesterday. Abbott is a blowhard.

Blogger glad2meetyou June 27, 2015 7:24 PM  

"Looks like Hy-Vee stayed out of it, so I still have a place to get groceries."

Ha, cool. That's where my grocery money goes. Way to be Hy-Vee.

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