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Wednesday, June 17, 2015

¡Jeb!

No, gracias. I think we've had two too many Bushes as president already:
Jeb Bush, a scion of the most recognizable family in Republican politics who fashioned an image as a sober-minded conservative truth-teller while governor of Florida, is running for president.

Bush made his formal announcement Monday afternoon here in his adopted hometown during an appearance at Miami Dade College. His candidacy comes after a week-long European tour and months of intensive behind-the-scenes political maneuvering that erased long-standing doubts about his White House ambitions.

Arguing that the country is on "a very bad course," Bush told supporters in Miami that the nation had a decision to make.

"The question for me is what am I going to do about it," he said Monday afternoon. "And I've decided: I'm a candidate for president of the United States of America."
 ¡Mierda! Jeb Bush is not a candidate for president of the United States of America, he is running for the presidency of the United Nations of America and Mexico. I would vote for Michelle Obama, Donald Trump, Kim Kardashian, or the corpse of Josef Stalin before I would vote for a pan-NorteAmericanist like Jeb Bush.

And I'm the great-grandson of a Mexican revolutionary.

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Blogger Ron Winkleheimer June 17, 2015 8:36 AM  

@Vox

You want to see some pissed off Republicans post on a board they frequent that if Jeb is the nominee you will vote for Hillary. After all, if you're going to get Democrat policies you might as well have a Democrat implementing them.

Blogger Daniel June 17, 2015 8:38 AM  

If he is the candidate, I may vote for him, only to make sure that the Democrats have one more valid ballot to steal and modify. It is kind of like being a mule for arms runners: most of the risk, little benefit, but at least I can tell people I dutifully contributed to the problem.

Sheesh. Lincoln/Wilson 2016. At least they are both still dead.

Blogger JartStar June 17, 2015 8:57 AM  

Could there be any less enthusiasm for a candidate? He hasn't a chance.

Anonymous Stilicho June 17, 2015 8:57 AM  

Jeb wants to be President of Mexico, but the won't let him. So his plan is to move most of the Mexicans north of the Rio Grande so he can be their president here.

I cannot find a single issue where he differs substantially from Hillary or Obama. He says he'll do all of the same things...he just claims he'll do them better.

Anonymous Mike M. June 17, 2015 8:59 AM  

This will be a Very Interesting campaign. I honestly don't think Bush can get more than 40% support in the primaries, if that. Which means that if a single dominant rival emerges, he's done.

The problem is that we've got several Grade-A rivals, some Grade B rivals, and a horde of Grade C contenders. Bush could well be nominated simply for being the Least Loser in a packed field.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler June 17, 2015 9:02 AM  

I am not voting at all.

America is going to hell and nothing can stop it. I predict four years of Hillary.

Look the Republicans in congress are betraying us now. The five Roman Catholics on the Supreme Court are betraying us. Every Protestant Church invites the World.

Do not vote. Let it go to hell.

Besides, I am not going to let some woman, Mexican, Negro, Pakistani, Muslim cancel out my vote. America is a Turd World Hell Hole. Nothing is going to stop its slide into oblivion and chaos.

Anonymous Leonidas June 17, 2015 9:03 AM  

Anybody but Hillary or Jeb. Just say no to American Monarchy.

Anonymous Giuseppe June 17, 2015 9:06 AM  

Vox,
Such internalised racism!
Embrace your inner enchillada!

Anonymous Stilicho June 17, 2015 9:14 AM  

Embrace your inner enchillada!

Stop it before BGS shows up with an anecdote

Blogger Rabbi B June 17, 2015 9:16 AM  

"Jeb wants to be President of Mexico . . ."

Why don't we just take over Mexico? I already check the Hispanic box (and sometimes Asian) when the forms ask about my ethnicity. Can they really prove otherwise?

Heck, I could probably be the first Ethiopian Jewish president of the NAACP if I really wanted to.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus June 17, 2015 9:17 AM  

¡Aye Caramba!

Anonymous Stilicho June 17, 2015 9:18 AM  

Heck, I could probably be the first Ethiopian Jewish president of the NAACP if I really wanted to

Would you wear a high yellow Star of David?

Anonymous buzzcut #207 June 17, 2015 9:19 AM  

Jeb is too late. There's no way he can top Junior's present to Daddy. There's no Sodom Who's Sane Junior for him to waste GI lives on. The best he can hope for is maybe Noriega has a son in politics.

Anonymous Giuseppe June 17, 2015 9:25 AM  

Stilicho,
I would think BGS would probably have more of a story about stuffed tacos. But I dunno, I'm no expert I don't even like Mexican food.

Anonymous MPC June 17, 2015 9:31 AM  

Bush, Clinton, Bush, Negro Jesus, now possibly ... Clinton vs. Bush.

What a great democracy!

Blogger Dexter June 17, 2015 9:32 AM  

Heck, if we had Sonny - the stupid, headstrong oldest son - we might as well have Fredo - the weak, ineffectual middle son. Too bad there is no Michael waiting in the wings. (Or is that Neil Bush?)

Blogger Alexander Thompson June 17, 2015 9:34 AM  

The tone deafness of this campaign is staggering Bush isn't even remebered that fondly by most people who voted for him. Is there any Republican that isn't out to just sooth their ego?

Yesterday I posted somewhere that I just stay home in November. It was an article about Bohener throwing a hiss fit over not getting Obamatrade. I got a response a minute later from a diehard chastising me...

Blogger RCR_Chris June 17, 2015 9:36 AM  

So ol' Jeb managed to squeeze the unregulated millions he could before actually "announcing" he wants his turn at the Bush Dynasty wheel huh?

The whole charade about him trying to decide "IF" he wants to run has been simply to take advantage of being able to raise over $100 million through a "Super PAC."

You can't do that king of overt bribe collection once you actually say you're running, although the Lizard queen claims to have found a loophole in the rules that is letting her do it anyway (Surprise, surprise.)


https://represent.us/action/super-pac-shuffle/

Blogger Corvinus June 17, 2015 9:37 AM  

Stalin for prez. At least he has a proven track record of actually doing something about commie infestations.

Blogger RL (#0052) June 17, 2015 9:39 AM  

Kim Kardashian, and the corpse of Josef Stalin

Sounds like a winning ticket to me.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey June 17, 2015 9:41 AM  

What a farce.

This country is a circus and a joke.

Let it burn.

Anonymous john grady June 17, 2015 9:47 AM  

"And I'm the great-grandson of a Mexican revolutionary."

Que? Poncho Villa?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sgho6k8BHq0

Blogger Cataline Sergius June 17, 2015 9:50 AM  

I already swore I was going to vote for Hillary before I voted for Jeb. No matter how drunk I had to get afterward.

And no matter how talented a comedian Jeb proves to be. Hell, he kept me laughing for days after he said, "I am Reagan Conservative."

Blogger Zach June 17, 2015 9:51 AM  

"There are, I believe, some who still deny that England is governed by an oligarchy. It is quite enough for me to know that a man might have gone to sleep some thirty years ago over the day's newspaper and woke up last week over the later newspaper, and fancied he was reading about the same people. In one paper he would have found a Lord Robert Cecil, a Mr. Gladstone, a Mr. Lyttleton, a Churchill, a Chamberlain, a Trevelyan, an Acland. In the other paper he would find a Lord Robert Cecil, a Mr. Gladstone, a Mr. Lyttleton, a Churchill, a Chamberlain, a Trevelyan, an Acland. If this is not being governed by families I cannot imagine what it is. I suppose it is being governed by extraordinary democratic coincidences."

― G.K. Chesterton, What's Wrong with the World

Anonymous hausfrau June 17, 2015 9:53 AM  

What kind of person shows up to a Jeb Bush or Hillary Clinton rally to cheer? This answers a lot of questions. Rent a crowd company has worked with political candidates in the US.
http://www.sott.net/article/297862-US-politicians-use-Rent-a-Crowd-company-to-give-illusion-of-support

Blogger Josh June 17, 2015 9:58 AM  

And no matter how talented a comedian Jeb proves to be. Hell, he kept me laughing for days after he said, "I am Reagan Conservative."

Well, they both support amnesty...

Anonymous Quartermain June 17, 2015 9:58 AM  

I'm staying home election day.

Anonymous trk June 17, 2015 9:59 AM  

Trump is our only hope

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian June 17, 2015 10:01 AM  

Bush I, Bush II, then Bush III

Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times, it's enemy action.

Anonymous Roundtine June 17, 2015 10:02 AM  

Jeb Bush speaks in Spanish about Speaking in English

No deportation unless the crime is worse than dismemberment.

Anonymous Tetzel June 17, 2015 10:05 AM  

Hey Wheeler, I think the Borgia Family has been reincarnated and left the Catholic Church.

Blogger Josh June 17, 2015 10:05 AM  

Stand with Rand

Anonymous Musashi #0350 June 17, 2015 10:13 AM  

Our "Hitler Moment" approaches.

Blogger Bogey June 17, 2015 10:14 AM  

Did anyone hear Trump's speech the other day? At least he was firing in the right direction.

Anonymous PA June 17, 2015 10:14 AM  

- "Could there be any less enthusiasm for a candidate? He hasn't a chance."

An entire cohort of conservative/lifelong Republican Boomers will vote for him. I really don't think they are capable of comprehending the immigration and race problem. Older conservatives as a whole are the problem.

- "The country is on a bad course."

If you're as on board with immigration and demographic replacement as Jeb, then from that perspective the country is on a very good course.

Blogger bob k. mando June 17, 2015 10:16 AM  

32. Josh June 17, 2015 10:05 AM
Stand with Rand



not while he is in the Republican party.

look at the Hastert situation:
http://www.steynonline.com/6983/hastert-la-vista-baby

these mother fuckers elected a man who was practically flying a Gay Pride flag off of his front porch to be Speaker of the House for EIGHT goddamn years. a man who repeatedly said that one of his most important priorities was 'collegiality' and getting along with the Demoncrats.

you wonder why the congressional Republicans are completely ineffectual at fighting or reversing Demoncrat initiatives?

it's because a large portion of the Repug leadership is quite clearly queer or pedo.

this is NOT A FUCKING ACCIDENT.

Blogger Jourdan June 17, 2015 10:16 AM  

I long ago vowed never to vote for any candidate who willing subjects himself to questioning from a Mexican national about why he should be President of the United States.

I have a very, very hard time understanding why self-respecting Anglo-American would do so. Picking out just the right lamp-post for future use, sure. Voting for him, insane.

I was at a reception where Ramos was present once and, to his credit, he completely acknowledged that not only was the idea of a U.S. citizen questioning Mexican presidential candidates as a member of the press ridiculous–any American so presuming would be killed–it was very much against Mexican law. (Note: In case you didn't know it, Ramos is Mexican)

Const of Mexico, Art. 33:

Article 33. Foreigners are those who do not possess the qualifications set forth in Article 30. They are entitled to the guarantees granted by Chapter I, Title I, of the present Constitution; but the Federal Executive shall have the exclusive power to compel any foreigner whose remaining he may deem inexpedient to abandon the national territory immediately and without the necessity of previous legal action.

Foreigners may not in any way participate in the political affairs of the country.

Blogger Josh June 17, 2015 10:19 AM  

Did anyone hear Trump's speech the other day? At least he was firing in the right direction.

Trump will drop out before the Iowa caucuses.

He might even drop out by October (absolute latest date to file financial disclosures).

Blogger luagha June 17, 2015 10:30 AM  

And the reason behind the lamesauce Rubio attacks by the press is that Hillary wants to run against Jeb.

Rubio is Jeb's first problem as they both draw from the same Florida money pool, and Rubio is far more charismatic in terms of lady tingles.

Still, the press will do anything to drag Jeb over the line so he can be their designated loser.

Anonymous BGS June 17, 2015 10:33 AM  

"Our "Hitler Moment" approaches". "Embrace your inner enchillada!" "Stop it before BGS shows up with an anecdote"

Perhaps we will get a Vlad Tepes with meat skewers? He was effective against 3rd world invasion.

Blogger Joshua Dyal June 17, 2015 10:37 AM  

Trump will drop out before the Iowa caucuses.

He might even drop out by October (absolute latest date to file financial disclosures).


If he can bring this immigration to the table as an issue in the Republican primaries, then he will have done enough.

OpenID simplytimothy June 17, 2015 10:45 AM  

A vote for Jeb! in the primary is a vote fo Hillary in the general.

Anonymous Porky June 17, 2015 10:49 AM  

Trump will drop out before the Iowa caucuses.

Ooh, I'll take that bet.

Blogger Alexander June 17, 2015 10:50 AM  

Let's say I was forced into a discussion about Jeb's candidacy in real life, and so had to speak, not type, his name.

Is it still a proper Anglo 'J' sound, or has he softened it to 'Heb'?

Anonymous Mike M. (minion #315) June 17, 2015 10:51 AM  

"Still, the press will do anything to drag Jeb over the line so he can be their designated loser"

They'll certainly try. He's the weakest plausible GOP candidate.

FWIW, I'm betting that the Dem candidate will NOT be Hillary Clinton. I think O'Malley will be their candidate...and he will have a decisive edge against Bush. The other Tier 1 GOP candidates, such as Walker and Perry, can crush him.

Blogger Josh June 17, 2015 10:51 AM  

Is it still a proper Anglo 'J' sound, or has he softened it to 'Heb'?

That would presumably offend his Jewish backers

Blogger Josh June 17, 2015 10:51 AM  

The other Tier 1 GOP candidates, such as Walker and Perry, can crush him.

Perry's not a tier 1 candidate. He might not even be a tier 2 candidate.

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian June 17, 2015 10:57 AM  

Perry's not a tier 1 candidate. He might not even be a tier 2 candidate.

True, but his hair is a tier 1 candidate.

Blogger Gunnar von Cowtown June 17, 2015 10:58 AM  

@ Leonidas
"Anybody but Hillary or Jeb. Just say no to American Monarchy."

Exactly. If it comes down to Hillary vs. El Jeb, I'm writing in Vladimir Putin. Let me know if you want one of these sweet Eisenhower-esque buttons.

https://retrointhe90s.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/putin2016.png

Blogger rcocean June 17, 2015 10:58 AM  

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Blogger rcocean June 17, 2015 10:58 AM  

Won't vote for Jeb in the primary and if he's nominated I won't vote for him for POTUS. I let the other the dumb Kopf conservatives fall in line and support the multinational dynasty.

Blogger Joel #0164 June 17, 2015 11:03 AM  

FWIW, I'm betting that the Dem candidate will NOT be Hillary Clinton. I think O'Malley will be their candidate

Bold prediction, but I think you're crazy. O'Malley's no Obama. Too white, straight and male for the 2016 Democratic party.

Blogger Dexter June 17, 2015 11:05 AM  

I especially, especially like the Jeb's idea that the reason Romney lost was he wasn't compassionate enough.

That's just what the GOP needs - an Even Bigger Pussy!

Blogger Alexander June 17, 2015 11:09 AM  

I'm still betting on Elizabeth Warren. She is the perfect embodiment of our political system and the society that has built it. Truly, she will be the crowning jewel to mark to the precise moment of her inauguration, the high point of the tranzi cis-terhood of the very sensitive and caring.

You couldn't write it in a book - it would come across as face-stompingly obvious in its setup and contemptuous of the reader. Fortunately, this is real life and in real life, both of those things are considered features of modern society, not bugs.

Anonymous rienzi June 17, 2015 11:09 AM  

I believe that it was in Steve Sailer column the other day, that a commenter stated that "Jeb! 2016" means " F*ck! 2016" in Polish.

Truth in advertising!



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Blogger Quizzer W June 17, 2015 11:16 AM  

17 Alexander Thompson: "Is there any Republican that isn't out to just sooth their ego?"

Yes. Most are out for the power or the money. The ego gets to go along for the ride.

Anonymous PA June 17, 2015 11:23 AM  

Yes. "Jeb" (pron. yeb) is the root of Polish infinitive "jebać" (YE-batch), "to fuck."

Blogger Rabbi B June 17, 2015 11:28 AM  

"Yes. "Jeb" (pron. yeb) is the root of Polish infinitive "jebać" (YE-batch), "to fuck.""

Nah. Hebrew root. Jeb is Yev, which is short for Yevusites . . .

Blogger Giraffe June 17, 2015 11:28 AM  

I won't vote for Jeb. Unless Hillary gets the dem nomination. I'll vote for Hitler against her just for spite.

Anonymous Jill June 17, 2015 11:28 AM  

Who is your great-grandfather (if you don't mind my asking)?

Blogger Rabbi B June 17, 2015 11:31 AM  

And then there's the Bush part . . . I remember the last time we listened to a bush, ended up in the desert for about 40 years or so.

No thanks.

Blogger Joshua Dyal June 17, 2015 11:35 AM  

I think that was actually due to your not listening with sufficient attentiveness to the bush, if you want to be technical...

Blogger Rabbi B June 17, 2015 11:43 AM  

" . . . if you want to be technical..."

Touche.

Blogger CM June 17, 2015 11:45 AM  

And then there's the Bush part . . . I remember the last time we listened to a bush, ended up in the desert for about 40 years or so.

But you were FREEEEEEE!

Blogger JaimeInTexas June 17, 2015 11:45 AM  

"And I'm the great-grandson of a Mexican revolutionary."

There is just no way of pleasing some people. yeeesh.

Mexico needs another revolution. It is long overdue. I, for one, am willing to send Jeb.

Blogger CM June 17, 2015 11:46 AM  

Josh > Me

Anonymous Huckleberry (#87) -- est. 1977 June 17, 2015 11:46 AM  

Is it still a proper Anglo 'J' sound, or has he softened it to 'Heb'?

John Ellis Bush in phonetic barrio spanglish:

Wan Ee-Yes Boosh

You heard it here first.

Anonymous Jack Amok June 17, 2015 11:48 AM  

now possibly ... Clinton vs. Bush.

Which Clinton? Chelsea is old enough now... (BTW, heard an old Red Skelton radio show from the 40's the other day. He joked that we'd never have a woman President because you could never get one to admit she was over 35...)

Blogger darkdoc June 17, 2015 11:48 AM  

Bush, Clinton, any name. Right wing, left wing. Phooey.

Both wings are attached to the same bird and that bird is government, and who controls the power and more important, the purse. That bird's body intentionally carries both wings to the same places, every time.

So give the wing crap a rest, both wings are willing to be oppressive and coercive when needed. Talking about wings means you have been distracted just as they desire, like a magician distracting you so you never see the real trick.

Is there a side that won't tax you, won't betray you, won't use your money to buy their votes, won't use your children to fight their wars, won't bind your children in debt for the future to pay the things they want today, won't ignore the law and Constitution when it's advantageous, won't use the military to squash dissent, won't lie even when they don't need to?

Grow up, and smell the chains.

Blogger maniacprovost June 17, 2015 11:53 AM  

The Red Staters still don't realize that we had 8 years of Obama due to their attitude of "vote for our conservative totally-not-going-to-sell-us-out electable candidate or you are a liberal traitor." No. The Democrats pander to their ideological groups, while the Republicans insult theirs. McCain? Electable? Really? In hindsight I guess he wasn't.

Blogger YIH June 17, 2015 11:56 AM  

The other Tier 1 GOP candidates, such as Walker and Perry, can crush him.
Walker may be a tier 1, but Perry, like [insert joke here] Santorum and Huckabee are tier 2 at best.
To me those three are like rummaging in the back of the fridge and finding something with a 'sell by' date from last year.
Trump? He's likely going to be this go-round's Herman Cain - claiming to be serious but actually doing it for his ego and to boost his media value.

Blogger Josh June 17, 2015 11:56 AM  

Ooh, I'll take that bet.

What should the stakes be?

Blogger Tommy Hass June 17, 2015 11:58 AM  

"Perhaps we will get a Vlad Tepes with meat skewers? He was effective against 3rd world invasion."

No he wasn't. Further, the Ottomans weren't the third world back then.

Blogger David-093 June 17, 2015 12:00 PM  

@Josh

"Stand with Rand"

Right on.

"Trump will drop out before the Iowa caucuses."

Yeah I don't see him going the distance either. He is firing in the right direction and at the right targets*, which shows he's at least in touch with the conservative base.

Note: No he isn't talking about the Jews--RELEASE THE WHEELER--but he's been blasting illegal immigration and China for a while now, so it's a start.

Blogger YIH June 17, 2015 12:01 PM  

P.S. My guess? Trump will be out by mid-September, just in time for the new TV season.

Blogger James Dixon June 17, 2015 12:01 PM  

> "The question for me is what am I going to do about it," he said Monday afternoon.

Why double down, of course. You are your fathers son, after all.

> Could there be any less enthusiasm for a candidate? He hasn't a chance.

Of being elected? Probably not. I'm not sure he'd carry a single state against Hillary. Of getting the nomination? Far more chance than I'd like. The existing leadership wants him so bad they can taste it.

> I predict four years of Hillary.

I see 8 years of Hillary and her refusing to leave office thereafter, marking the complete end of the republic. (not that it hasn't effectively been dead for over 150 years, but that's another matter).

Blogger Tommy Hass June 17, 2015 12:02 PM  

Can somebody explain to me how terrible Mexico is? Like, name countries that are roughly equivalent to it in terms of development/shittiness.

Blogger David-093 June 17, 2015 12:04 PM  

"Can somebody explain to me how terrible Mexico is? Like, name countries that are roughly equivalent to it in terms of development/shittiness."

Nicaragua, Somalia, Afghanistan. There are more beheadings happening in Mexico than from jihadis in the Middle East, to put it in perspective. Also, Mexican immigrants have a fetish for pedophilia, so much so that lawyers and cops can identify the race by the crime now before even seeing the perp.

Blogger James Dixon June 17, 2015 12:06 PM  

Oh, and I nominate "Weed" as the official nickname for Jeb-boy. What do you all think?

Anonymous Anonymous June 17, 2015 12:09 PM  

>>I'm still betting on Elizabeth Warren.

Oi, that sucks, because it is of *all* the people running, even including Bush and Hillary and freaking Bernie, only Elizabeth Warren, and Elizabeth Warren alone, could screw things up worse than Obama. Anyone but her, and things will improve, however marginally with some candidates.

Anonymous Quartermaster June 17, 2015 12:15 PM  

It won't matter who is elected. There is no solution through politics as it simply reflects the corruption of the electorate. Only a turn back to God will allow a solution. The chance of that happening is somewhere between nil and zero.

Anonymous FP June 17, 2015 12:18 PM  

"I got a response a minute later from a diehard chastising me... "

Yeah, its sad how quick the team cheerleaders are hitting the warpath. Saw it the other day from a gun rights reporter/SAF activist, Dave Workman in an article he wrote and on a local gun forum I read.

That said I'm seeing plenty of push back against Jeb too on places like HotAir and Ace of Spades.

Blogger grendel June 17, 2015 12:19 PM  

Jesse Jackson knows what to do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7RGFjWNS-8&app=desktop

Blogger Josh June 17, 2015 12:24 PM  

Can somebody explain to me how terrible Mexico is? Like, name countries that are roughly equivalent to it in terms of development/shittiness.

Turkey

Blogger hank.jim June 17, 2015 12:26 PM  

While the list of candidates is getting larger, the number of candidates that I can vote for is getting smaller.

Jeb: I can't vote for another Bush.
Trump: Will be a spoiler that can hand the election to Hillary if he stays in and runs as an independent. No political experience. A blowhard with bad hair.
Cruz, Ryan, Rubio: Not against the fast track trade deal to hand Obama more power. Ridiculous.
Fiorina: Like Trump with no previous political experience. Not electable.

This leaves Walker and Perry as still viable, but for how long?

Blogger Corvinus June 17, 2015 12:26 PM  

"Can somebody explain to me how terrible Mexico is? Like, name countries that are roughly equivalent to it in terms of development/shittiness."

@Tommy Hass
A bit below Argentina, Uruguay, Poland, Romania, or Russia, about the same as Turkey, and a bit above China, Colombia, and Morocco.

David-093's hyperbole refers mainly to the drug war, although Mexico is a large country and most of it is relatively unaffected. The Central American countries southeast of Mexico have among the highest murder rates on the planet, but Mexico isn't quite as bad, even with the drug war.

Blogger Daniel June 17, 2015 12:35 PM  

See, Jeb was falsely born into a family from crab country, but identifies entirely with the tortilla. #wrongshell

Blogger Josh June 17, 2015 12:37 PM  

Nicaragua, Somalia, Afghanistan.

Mexico has a GDP per capita (PPP) of 17,881, ranking 66th in the world

Nicaragua 4,736 (133)
Somalia 600 (197)
Afghanistan 1,937 (165)

There are more beheadings happening in Mexico than from jihadis in the Middle East, to put it in perspective.

There are approximately 12,000 drug war related murders in Mexico each year.

There were 17,000 civilian deaths last year related to ISIS.

Blogger Josh June 17, 2015 12:38 PM  

This leaves Walker and Perry as still viable, but for how long?

Why did you leave Rand off your list?

OpenID genericviews June 17, 2015 12:39 PM  

You can't do that king of overt bribe collection once you actually say you're running, although the Lizard queen claims to have found a loophole in the rules that is letting her do it anyway (Surprise, surprise.)

It's called "winning". If you win, you can be above the law, then no one can touch you and everything you did before gets forgiven.

Blogger dc.sunsets June 17, 2015 12:46 PM  

With the NSA reading everyone's mail (& phone), every single candidate is sooooooo blackmail-able. In fact, only those with skeletons-in-closet need apply, as only those who are easy to control are allowed at the table. For example, who is dumb enough to think Roberts actually wrote his ACA majority decision? It reads like the ravings of an institutionalized madman who argues that up is down and in is out.

Nothing, absolutely nothing is as it is presented. Photoshop is the new reality.

Makes me wonder how long the termites can eat the support beams before the Shining Castle on the Hill collapses into dust.

Blogger dc.sunsets June 17, 2015 12:48 PM  

Just another brick in the "voting is a waste of time, it only encourages the parasites" wall.

Staring at a blank monitor is a better use of time than filling out a ballot for a national election.

Blogger dc.sunsets June 17, 2015 12:50 PM  

"Weed" is good. Of course it would be even better if GWB was "Snowball."

Blogger hank.jim June 17, 2015 12:52 PM  

"Why did you leave Rand off your list?"

Yes, I can't vote for him either. Bad omission.

Blogger dc.sunsets June 17, 2015 12:52 PM  

If the markets collapse before 11/16 all bets are off. A dark horse yet unknown could easily slot in. If they hold up until then, Hil or Jeb would be front and center for the Nixon Treatment (won re-election in a landslide, chased out of town shortly thereafter on his way to ignominy.)

Blogger Dan in Tx June 17, 2015 12:53 PM  

I will not vote ever again in another election in the U.S. as long as the corrupt two party system is in place. By not voting, you are actually casting a vote for "none of the above". Believe me, they do worry about maintaining an air of legitimacy, thus the reason Obama was making noise here awhile back about making it a law to force people to vote. Don't vote and strip them of the cover of being legitimate rulers over us.

OpenID genericviews June 17, 2015 12:54 PM  

And then there's the Bush part . . . I remember the last time we listened to a bush, ended up in the desert for about 40 years or so. L --Rabbi B

That was pretty funny the last time I heard it used. I think it was the 2000 election and a Democrat was saying it then too. But as I recall reading about it, the first time, the 40 years of wandering was intentional and that "Bush" was Almighty Lord God, not some hack politician from a country that's only been around for a few hundred years. A Rabbi should know better than to make statements that would look blasphemous just to make a silly religious joke.

And before the flying monkies get me... I would be fine with !Jeb! getting hit by a bus too.

Blogger James Dixon June 17, 2015 12:58 PM  

> Fiorina: Like Trump with no previous political experience. Not electable.

Her complete failure as CEO of HP wasn't enough to convince you?

Blogger Rabbi B June 17, 2015 12:58 PM  

"A Rabbi should know better than to make statements that would look blasphemous just to make a silly religious joke."

Just funnin' about. I disn't mean nothin' by it.

Blogger Rabbi B June 17, 2015 12:58 PM  

*didn't

Blogger David-093 June 17, 2015 12:58 PM  

"Mexico has a GDP per capita (PPP) of 17,881, ranking 66th in the world"

Wasn't talking about GDP Josh. It was the overall shittiness of the country. Nicaragua, Somalia, and Afghanistan immediately came to mind. Costa Rica is just under Mexico and Malaysia is right above it, to give that some context and I'd rather live in Costa Rica than Mexico.

"There are approximately 12,000 drug war related murders in Mexico each year.

There were 17,000 civilian deaths last year related to ISIS."

Reread my post again. I said "beheadings" not "murders in general". Also in 2013 Mexican drug cartels killed 16,000 people, which is probably underestimated by at least half due to the Mexican government's shitty record-keeping and not wanting to appear woefully incapable of stopping the cartels.

Anonymous Eric Ashley June 17, 2015 1:03 PM  

Might want to read 'Bill and Dave' by Michael Malone about HP and slightly about Fiorina, who he doesn't like.

Anonymous Porky June 17, 2015 1:04 PM  

What should the stakes be?

Don't know. What suits you?

Anonymous DavidKathome June 17, 2015 1:05 PM  

For myself I can't stand to listen to the empty promises of what each candidate will do if elected. The patronizing lying is just too brazen. Of course the candidates know they can only successfully appeal to the dunces and midwits.

Blogger Tommy Hass June 17, 2015 1:12 PM  

"A bit below Argentina, Uruguay, Poland, Romania, or Russia, about the same as Turkey, and a bit above China, Colombia, and Morocco."

Expected Russia and Romania to be lower and China and Colombia to be higher...

Blogger J Curtis June 17, 2015 2:16 PM  

Two words, Ilk.

Rick. Perry.

Anonymous Donn #0114 June 17, 2015 2:24 PM  

He can't even teach his wife to speak English. How the hell does he expect to teach 30? 50? Million Mexicans to speak English? Half of the Guatemalans he imports now don't speak Spanish after 500 years of exposure.

This will end well.

The frickin' computer asked me to identify all the 'salads'. Fuck that couldn't we at least be asked to identify barbeque items or whiskey drinks?

Blogger Nobody June 17, 2015 2:28 PM  

For those still planning to vote, remember this: America voted for the dumbocrats, and here we are. America voted for the repukocrats, and here we are. Keep voting and imagine where we will be and you were a partaker of it.

Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins...

Anonymous zen0 the Concerned June 17, 2015 2:31 PM  

101. David-093 June 17, 2015 12:58 PM

"Mexico has a GDP per capita (PPP) of 17,881, ranking 66th in the world"

Wasn't talking about GDP Josh. It was the overall shittiness of the country.


Maybe this is the problem


Vatican City, Jun 16, 2015 / 03:09 am (CNA/EWTN News).- Can a country with deep Christian roots like Mexico find itself at the mercy of demons? Some in the Church fear so.

And as a result, they called for a nation-wide exorcism of Mexico, carried out quietly last month in the cathedral of San Luis Potosí.

High levels of violence, as well as drug cartels and abortion in the country, were the motivation behind the special rite of exorcism, known as “Exorcismo Magno.”

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents June 17, 2015 2:32 PM  

Kennedy. Rockefeller. Bush. Clinton.
This is what passes for an aristocracy?

Anonymous Donn #0114 June 17, 2015 2:36 PM  

Kennedy. Rockefeller. Bush. Clinton.
This is what passes for an aristocracy?


Not a lot of Noblesse oblige in that bunch. We'd be better off if George had accepted the crown when offered.

Anonymous Donn #0114 June 17, 2015 2:38 PM  

Zeno - Perhaps we need an ultra Magno for the US?

Blogger Cail Corishev June 17, 2015 2:43 PM  

"a country with deep Christian roots like Mexico"

This assumption is a big part of the problem.

Anonymous Elijah Rhodes June 17, 2015 3:06 PM  

The reality is that any candidate you chose will ultimately disappoint you, and probably greatly. Nobody at this point is capable of making the kinds of changes necessary to stave off the fall of the empire.

Blogger Keith Glass June 17, 2015 3:15 PM  

I'm already not voting for my Congresscritter, and there's no Senate Seat up in Virginia in 2016. Jeb get the nomination, we're not even going to bother to vote. . . .

Blogger Corvinus June 17, 2015 3:38 PM  

Expected Russia and Romania to be lower
@Tommy Hass
Ukraine and Moldova are substantially poorer than either of them, so I suppose it's easy to get confused.

and China and Colombia to be higher...
Colombia is still recovering from its own drug war, and it still has a high murder rate, although Venezuela's is now considerably higher.

China is essentially two countries. The coast is almost as rich as South Korea or Taiwan, but the inland is still dirt-poor.

He can't even teach his wife to speak English.

@Donn #0114
Given Jebbie's inability to do so, along with the very fact he married an average-looking Mexican broad in the first place instead of a white American, I think we can safely call his sociosexual rank.

Hint: it starts with a "G".

Blogger JaimeInTexas June 17, 2015 3:42 PM  

"This assumption is a big part of the problem."

Yep.

Anonymous Too-Soon-ami June 17, 2015 3:56 PM  

zen0: "High levels of violence, as well as drug cartels and abortion in the country, were the motivation behind the special rite of exorcism, known as “Exorcismo Magno.”


The exorcism has been ongoing for decades already. The demons are cast out, they enter a herd of many mexicans, who then run north across our border. Lather rinse repeat.

Blogger hank.jim June 17, 2015 4:37 PM  

"Her complete failure as CEO of HP wasn't enough to convince you?"

Have you considered if any subsequent CEO of HP is a success? HP isn't doing so well now or before.

Fiorina laid off 30,000 in her tenure that ended in 2005. Meg Whitman, the current CEO, laid off 55,000 since 2011. The PC industry is in decline. You can say the same thing about the Republican Party.

Blogger Eric June 17, 2015 4:41 PM  

Jeb would make an OK Secretary of Education. Other than that, I don't want him anywhere near DC.

Anonymous BGS June 17, 2015 4:56 PM  

Can somebody explain to me how terrible Mexico is? Like, name countries that are roughly equivalent to it in terms of development/shittiness.

This is awkward- GDP per capita Mexico, 10,715, China, 7,589, but then again we might be getting the best of china and the people that would be on welfare if they had it from mexico.

"a country with deep Christian roots like Mexico" once they get to the US they change to worshiping the state, they don't have to show up once a week to get handouts.

Anonymous ticticboom June 17, 2015 6:25 PM  

The problem with Mexico is that the kind of people we'd want have a pretty good thing going, so stay put. We get the dregs instead.

And a country that shares a border, but a different culture and race, is the country you least want immigration from. You quickly find that border effectively moving and the territory you can control shrinking.

@David:

I've heard it said that if it's a financial crime it's a white guy, if it's a violent crime it's a black guy, and if it's a sex crime or drunk driving it's a hispanic guy.

Anonymous Steve Brown VFM #0273 June 17, 2015 6:32 PM  

Vox,

Using that same grand well thought out logic, you would also vote for Irene Gallo, PNH, or John Scarfi.

Now, Vox, 17 months out I guess one can pop off, but surely you would rather have a Christian occupy the office as not. Surely you would want someone with some gov't experience, as not. Surely you would want someone who comes from a family that has proven over many years that they all love this country.

Vox, your statement was nothing more than equine excrement.

Blogger Jourdan June 17, 2015 6:37 PM  

Can somebody explain to me how terrible Mexico is?

There is no need to explain it, man. Just watch 10 minutes of Sabado Gigante this week-end and realize that this is your people's future, stomping on a human face, forever.

Blogger VD June 17, 2015 7:10 PM  

Using that same grand well thought out logic, you would also vote for Irene Gallo, PNH, or John Scarfi.

Yes. Any of the three of them would be better than Jeb Bush.

Now, Vox, 17 months out I guess one can pop off, but surely you would rather have a Christian occupy the office as not. Surely you would want someone with some gov't experience, as not. Surely you would want someone who comes from a family that has proven over many years that they all love this country.

Yes. No. Hell no. The Bush family does not love this country. Not even a little bit. And I knew members of their inner circle. They don't give a damn about anything but power.

Blogger David-093 June 17, 2015 7:39 PM  

"Not even a little bit. And I knew members of their inner circle. They don't give a damn about anything but power."

I just don't get that mindset. Do they think they'll live forever?

Blogger David-093 June 17, 2015 7:41 PM  

"I've heard it said that if it's a financial crime it's a white guy, if it's a violent crime it's a black guy, and if it's a sex crime or drunk driving it's a hispanic guy."

Yeah I was thinking of that when I wrote that post.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza June 17, 2015 7:53 PM  

What a freak show of distractions, anything to attempt (failed) to nullify the support for Rand Paul including any rational debate about God knows what.

100 million Americants or Ameriwont or regular Americans wish to work people might not want to return to work at all so...more DOOM.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza June 17, 2015 7:57 PM  

Voting? If we make it past the Dems and the sideshows, I'll surprised to see if the election from hell is Hill vs. Jeb, two do-nothings that will never have any of my attention whatsoever.

We dont need a mommy to henpick citizens, we dont need a man that mentions he cries.

Some of you elitist boomers stole everything I had and continue to financially rape me everyeffingday but guess what!?!?!? Surprise wicked ones, God over rules it all.

Regardless, post americant is a judged nation, only doom can follow no recovery. How many articles have we read, in reality of which we orbit and live in, have pointed to ECONO CONTRACTION not expansion.

Anonymous Steve Brown VFM#0273 June 17, 2015 8:00 PM  

Vox,

"And I knew members of their inner circle. They don't give a damn about anything but power."

Very interesting. Dick Cheney, Condoleezza Rice, Brent Scowcroft, and Donald Rumsfeld all worked for a man who hated the US & only wanted power. Grand well thought out logic once again. Any and all of them could have been very powerful & successful without GWB. But I'm suppose to believe because you have inside information into their character. Wow.

Well, then lead me to the articles or books that prove your inside information. Otherwise, once again bullshit.

Blogger Tommy Hass June 17, 2015 8:00 PM  

If you could choose between 5 million Ukrainians or 80.000 Persian Muslims migrating to America next year, which one would you pick?

Anonymous zen0 June 17, 2015 8:18 PM  

> If you could choose between 5 million Ukrainians or 80.000 Persian Muslims migrating to America next year, which one would you pick?

C) neither

Blogger LP 999/Eliza June 17, 2015 8:31 PM  

D. utter rejection of anymore people coming into the country for a better life, there is nothing in post american worth staying for.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza June 17, 2015 8:33 PM  

A week long Euro tour, a stop as a BilderB guest?

Blogger Joel #0164 June 17, 2015 8:39 PM  

Steve,

You've got your head stuck so far up the Bush family asshole I'm surprised you can still breathe. What have the Bush's ever done for you that you have so much loyalty to them?

Was it the two pointless wars in Iraq? Lying about taxes? Trying to force amnesty on the country? The creation of the unconstitutional monstrosities known as the DHS and the TSA? Was it the 4th Amendment shredding and misnamed Patriot Act? How about the socialism of Medicare part D and No Child Left Behind or the Keynesian brilliance of TARP?

Blogger Danby June 17, 2015 8:40 PM  

@Steve Brown
Very interesting. Dick Cheney, Condoleezza Rice, Brent Scowcroft, and Donald Rumsfeld all worked for a man who hated the US & only wanted power. Grand well thought out logic once again.

Somehow, no-one else sees the connection in your thinking that you seem to believe is so obvious that you don't have to state it. Maybe that's because it's not there.

If the Bushes are such sooper patriots, why do they own a 98,000 acre ranch in one of the few countries in the world that doesn't have an extradition treaty with the US?

Blogger LP 999/Eliza June 17, 2015 8:44 PM  

Hill and Jeb are actually running together, they will repeat the dynasties of the same staffers and same neocon bullshit. Their recklessness would be no different than the current field of Right candidates besides Rand.

its highly doubtful I'll bother trying to vote, in 2012, til our recent local election, I was told I am not a citizen of a certain town, county, state, etc., I quit caring about elections in 2005 and officially walked away around 2006, no reason to care about futureless post americants and wonts. And its still not like I think women should vote anyways, women took the country to hell in 100 years of their henhouzing. The henhouzer collective trance orders, vote, vote, shop, worship banks, worship authoritarian nitpicking, shop, vote, shop, feel good, be happy, feel good, put yourself first, shop, worship the decadence. feel good, shop.

This trance of estrogen has a problem, its starts with L and ends in P.

Blogger David-093 June 17, 2015 8:46 PM  

"why do they own a 98,000 acre ranch in one of the few countries in the world that doesn't have an extradition treaty with the US?"

I've read it's in Paraguay. Do these assholes think nobody will remember their crimes when the excitement begins?

Blogger LP 999/Eliza June 17, 2015 8:57 PM  

Taxation is theft. My financial rape is killing me, please stop financially raping me, please stop financially raping me. Go to hell for telling me to shop, agree with TPP leaks, be a happyhappyzombie, go to hell all you wicked boomers seeking a shit job.

You motherfuckers in healthcare.............I'm going to bed. It is clear I am not rational today.

Blogger James Dixon June 17, 2015 9:00 PM  

> Have you considered if any subsequent CEO of HP is a success? HP isn't doing so well now or before.

HP was doing as well as any other PC company before she took over. So she doubled down on the sinking part of the business. Of course they're not doing well now.

> ...but surely you would rather have a Christian occupy the office as not.

If he did, that would let out any of the Bush family. They only worship money and power.

Blogger Robert What? June 17, 2015 9:38 PM  

I think the 2014 elections proved beyond any doubt what a pointless scam voting is.

Anonymous Steve Brown VFM#0273 June 17, 2015 9:50 PM  

@Joel & Danby

One of the Bush's farted so I have time to talk. Guys, we are not talking about all the bad things the Bush's might have done, but Vox's logic. He states that he would rather have another Obama experiment in this country, i.e. no experience, bad negotiator, low IQ, Muslin, Marxist, than Jeb. Then goes so far to prove this brilliant conclusion with a very logical "I have secret insider information."

Stay on point guys, or I will banish you to File 770.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents June 17, 2015 10:52 PM  

Looks like the cat is out of the bag on the Obamatrade deal. It essentially creates something supra-national that looks like the EU.

The Trans-Pacific partnership should be renamed "Oceana". Then we can get on with divvying the rest of the world up into Eurasia and Eastasia.

Blogger Joel #0164 June 17, 2015 11:18 PM  

All the bad stuff the Bush's "might have done," Steve?

Better an inexperienced enemy openly playing for the other side than an experienced "friend" ready to stab you in the back. That's the logic. It's too bad you continue to miss it.

Blogger Tommy Hass June 18, 2015 3:12 AM  

" i.e. no experience, bad negotiator, low IQ, Muslin, Marxist, than Jeb."

Obummer has managed to avoid getting nuked by Russians and sending American soldiers to middle eastern sandpits where they get picked off by guys who have more of a reason to be there than they, for absolutely nothing.

You should thank your lucky star that he is so "incompetent".

Blogger LP 999/Eliza June 18, 2015 6:44 AM  

It is better that Pres. Putin is the smarter, cooler adult in the room who knows there is no rational reason to repond too much to the West. Then again most adults dont bother with children.

Mommy and Daddy, Jebby and Hilly are endless in their wishing we all know how normal and everyday they are, the dynasties are just like us!

Blogger James Dixon June 18, 2015 7:28 AM  

> He states that he would rather have another Obama experiment in this country, i.e. no experience, bad negotiator, low IQ, Muslin, Marxist, than Jeb.

A known enemy is better than a traitor. This isn't rocket science. The fact that you can't follow it isn't a problem with Vox's logic.

> "I have secret insider information."

There's nothing secret about the way the Bush's acted in their 20 years in the White House.

Blogger Cail Corishev June 18, 2015 7:46 AM  

Yeah, what Vox said was that his personal information reinforces what we already know about the Bushes. I have no personal connections to them, but I've known for more than a decade that they have more loyalty to their friends in the Mexican elite, the Saudi elite, the Paraguayan elite, and so on, than to the American middle class. There's nothing secret about that.

Anonymous Steve Brown VFM#0273 June 18, 2015 9:03 AM  

Bruised, bloody, and beaten, but still alive.

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