Wednesday, June 24, 2015

Stage 2: snail mail

Since Macmillan has yet to respond to any of the many emails it has received from hundreds of people, it's now time to take things to Stage 2 of the Tor Books boycott. Mail a handwritten postcard or index card to each of the following three individuals informing them that as long as Irene Gallo is employed by Tor Books or, you will not be purchasing any books published by Tor Books.

Rhonda Brown
Executive Director of Legal Affairs for Employment
175 Fifth Avenue
New York, NY 10010
United States of America

Andrew Weber
Chief Operating Officer
175 Fifth Avenue
New York, NY 10010
United States of America

Tom Doherty
Tom Doherty Associates
175 Fifth Avenue,
New York, NY 10010
United States of America

After you have mailed each of the three individuals, send me an email with STAGE 2 in the subject. We know that Serious Matters are being discussed at Tor; even though nothing appears to be happening from the outside there is quite a bit going on behind the scenes. These things take time, and especially with the CEO gone until next month, Macmillan is much less likely to act in anything but a deliberate manner. Someone has already reined in Moshe Feder on more than one occasion, and an anti-GamerGate rant on was quickly taken down, so its clear that Macmillan is taking the matter seriously, but until they send Gallo on her way it will be clear that they are not taking it seriously enough.

Of course, if the executives have any sense at all, they will terminate Patrick Nielsen Hayden's employment as well, given that he is the individual primarily responsible for the insane SJW crusade that Gallo and Feder have confused for their professional responsibilities. As for me, my position remains the same.

Until Irene Gallo and Patrick Nielsen Hayden are no longer employed by Tor Books or, I will not:
  1. Purchase any books published by Tor Books
  2. Read any books published by Tor Books
Given (2), this means that if Ms. Gallo and Mr. Nielsen Hayden are still employed by Tor Books in 2016, I will not nominate any books published by Tor Books for any awards.

It's interesting, is it not, to contrast the way in which Walmart, Amazon, and Ebay were so quick to respond to totally nonexistent pressure to stop selling Confederate flag-related material with Macmillan's non-response to receiving thousands of emails. This is the difference that SJW entryism makes. I've seen the BBC "react" and change its policies due to "outrage" that was later reported to be a grand total of 17 complaints.

In any event, the word is spreading. Reaxxion editor Matt Forney wrote about the boycott yesterday at Return of Kings:
Since Grant launched his boycott of Tor on Friday, it’s picked up steam among Sad and Rabid Puppies supporters and drawn the opprobrium of SJWs, who’ve launched a “buy-cott” in response (complete with fake Twitter accounts in support). Vox Day has been one of the most vocal supporters of the boycott, pointing to libelous comments made by another Tor editor, Patrick Nielsen Hayden, and how both his and Gallo’s remarks violate Macmillan’s (Tor’s corporate parent) code of conduct.

SJWs’ panicked response to the Tor boycott is yet more evidence of how hypocritical and lacking in honesty they are. Leftists are happy to launch boycotts against companies whenever their employees make “racist,” “misogynist” or “homophobic” comments: indeed, instigating witch hunts against those they deem “bigots” is practically a sport among the left. But when one of their own is targeted, these fearless moral crusaders suddenly cry foul.
As has Allen Davis at the influential libertarian site
I have always preferred Robert Heinlein to Marion Zimmer Bradley, Robert Forward to Samuel Delaney, and, more recently, John C. Wright to John Scalzi and “A Throne of Bones” to “Game of Thrones.”  Somehow, those preferences in science fiction and fantasy apparently make me something other than a “science fiction fan”–at least in the eyes of the current science fiction establishment.  And, in the opinion of some, they make me a pariah, a “heretic against the true church of science fiction.”

At least, now I know I’m not the only one.

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Anonymous TroperA June 24, 2015 5:00 AM  

Companies respond to calls to pull merchandise (or fire people) because it wins them brownie points with the loudest, most bellyaching portion of the population (whom they know to have enormous influence.) They will not respond to calls for boycotts from the non-habitual bellyachers because they fear the backlash of the habitual bellyachers. It's not until their bottom line becomes noticeably threatened that they'll finally relent and listen to the non-bellyachers.

Conservatives have been either too nice or too involved with productive activities to hold people's feet to the fire. They have to work magnitudes of times harder in order for their boycotts to show the same effectiveness. As long as "Progressivism" remains a selling point for US Companies, this will always be so.

Blogger VD June 24, 2015 5:13 AM  

Agreed. Which is why we have to expect it to take a while for them to come around. That's fine. We are nothing if not patient and persistent.

Anonymous Giuseppe June 24, 2015 5:20 AM  

Yes. Finally. I'm actually going to post a letter in an envelope. Make them actually have to physically open it. Makes it take up just that bit more time that I think it has more impact than a postcard.
I know it sounds small, but it's the little things that make a difference in life.

Blogger napari June 24, 2015 5:25 AM  

Copy/pasted/printed all 3 mail address.
Will scotch tape to post card later. Little early in the morn to go buy postcards. Will buy a box of post cards for future campaigns. My local dollar store probably has them cheap enough.
Thx for helping VD. ;)

Blogger Jack Ward June 24, 2015 5:31 AM  

I would wonder which is more effective; the post card or something that has to be opened? I may invest in return receipt notice.
You know, just for the fun of it....

Anonymous Giuseppe June 24, 2015 5:38 AM  

Jack Ward,
Excellent idea sir. Excellent.
I will look into this too.

Blogger cavalier973 June 24, 2015 7:12 AM  

How long before Wal-Mart starts selling Confederate battle flags again?

Blogger Unknown June 24, 2015 7:28 AM  

The bot argument is receiving return fire. I can imagine the meeting there with hundreds and hundreds of post cards... bbbbwwwwwhhhhhhahahahahahaha

Anonymous Blue Meanie June 24, 2015 8:01 AM  

Letters written and signed. Will be mailed this afternoon.

Back in the early 90's I was in London and came across a postcard with a photo of two punk rockers on it, each flipping the bird at the camera. I found it funny and sent it to my friend. I wish I had three of those postcards now. Or would that be unprofessional and taint the purpose? Oh well, letters are written and will be sent.

Blogger James Dixon June 24, 2015 8:26 AM  

> How long before Wal-Mart starts selling Confederate battle flags again?

A couple of months or so. They're based in Arkansas, after all.

We've emailed Walmart and told them we will be minimizing our purchases at their stores until we hear they've changed their policy. W normally spend about $100/week at Walmart. I think we cut that back to $50 without too much trouble, and possibly less.

Amazon is more problematic, since Meredith both has a Kindle and publishes her books with Amazon, but we've let them know we're not happy about it.

Blogger Salt June 24, 2015 8:31 AM  

Ordered a 3x5' Confederate Battle Flag. I'll be flying it, up the 60' mast, along with my Gadsen naval flag on the 4th of July.

Blogger James Dixon June 24, 2015 8:56 AM  

> ... along with my Gadsen naval flag on the 4th of July.

I've always had a preference for the Culpepper version myself. But then I would, given where I'm from.

Anonymous Bz June 24, 2015 9:20 AM  

I wonder at what point a local paper like the New York Post would be interested in giving the managers at Tor and Macmillan a call?

Anonymous cremes June 24, 2015 9:20 AM  

I just wrote my letters and plan to visit the post office a bit later today. The letters will go out by this afternoon, so I expect MacMillan and Tor will have them in hand by Friday or Monday at the latest.

Anonymous Daniel #0189 June 24, 2015 9:49 AM  

What was the science-religion that the Mayor of Terminus started in Foundation to fool the barbarian kingdoms into dependent trade relations? That is what Pink SF is.

Holy smoke.

Anonymous Ridip June 24, 2015 10:30 AM  

Mrs. Ridip wants to know what all the anti-confederate lather is being used to distract everyone from.

Blogger Chris June 24, 2015 10:37 AM  

It is to distract us from the pending approval of the fast trac authority of the "trade deal" today.

Anonymous BGS June 24, 2015 10:43 AM  

Mrs. Ridip wants to know what all the anti-confederate lather is being used to distract everyone from.

The TPP which might now pass.

Blogger Alexander June 24, 2015 11:01 AM  

Ah yes, the Transpacific Co-Prosperity Sphere - good eye Chris.

Anonymous Anonymous June 24, 2015 12:18 PM  

The 2-Minute Hate directed at the Confederate Flag is illustrative of real power. It is a wonder to behold.

Anonymous The SJW June 24, 2015 12:20 PM  

"It's interesting, is it not, to contrast the way in which Walmart, Amazon, and Ebay were so quick to respond to totally nonexistent pressure to stop selling Confederate flag-related material with Macmillan's non-response to receiving thousands of emails. This is the difference that SJW entryism makes."

I'll offer a possible explanation for this.

First it could be that in fact there have not been 1000s of emails sent MacMillan's way. Additionally, it's possible that MacMillan, since hearing about the purported boycott has seen nothing in the way of declines in their daily reports. It would be a while before they saw same store book sales since I thin the boycot is recent. So, if there is no decline in daily sales and if the MacMillan people don't see any problem with supporting their employees...well, there you go.

The other thing to consider with regard to Amazon and Ebay, etc is that they have nothing to lose by making a gesture toward those who understandably see the confederate flag as a symbol of the ideology that apparently motivated the SC shooter. There is no loss of revenue and if asked why they can make the simple case that the flag has become to associated with a ruthless ideology and naturally is offensive to many people.

Plus....No downside to Amazon.

This might explain the different responses Vox Day observes. Put simple. One group doesn't matter, the other does.

Anonymous patrick kelly June 24, 2015 12:26 PM  

"One group doesn't matter...."

First they ignore you....

Blogger Elocutioner June 24, 2015 12:59 PM  

Ah, published Tor author Leigh Butler restored her now-edited post wherein she equated GamerGate with the Westboro Baptist Church and the KKK with this quote added on the main page (it's not on the linked post):

"Being against evil doesn’t make you good. Tonight I was against it and then I was evil myself. I could feel it coming just like a tide… I just want to destroy them. But when you start taking pleasure in it you are awfully close to the thing you’re fighting." ~ Ernest Hemingway

So, GamerGate is evil. They're such simpletons they just don't know how to act professionally and not be snarky assholes even while in the act of retracting libel on the company website acting in her professional capacity. At least she indirectly admitted she herself was evil. Baby steps.

Tor Delenda Est.

Anonymous Alexander, #10 June 24, 2015 1:04 PM  

I wrote to Amazon this morning, and they have responded. It's a bit of a boiler-plate response, but given the turnaround and the civility of it, and the fact it does address the concern, I'm happy enough for the time being.

Good morning,

I wish to write to you about my concerns regarding Amazon's decision to discontinue the sale of Confederate-related merchandise through its marketplace. I appreciate that as a private company, doing so is your privilege. However, it is very disconcerting for me that what amounts to one of if not the largest publisher/bookshop in the world is censoring its products based on ideological lines.

Yes, this is not to my understanding affecting Kindle purchases at this time. But clearly, this represents a shift in the corporate culture with no guarantee that it won't spread. While I do not intend to make any changes to my purchasing habits today, I will not support the censorship of ideas.

Your bookstore currently sells thousand of books guaranteed to offend some part of the ideological spectrum. Mein Kampf. The Communist Manifesto. Harry Potter. 50 shades of Grey. The Bible. The Koran. Jungle Book. Silent Spring. It is not Amazon's job to determine what should be spoon-fed to the populace. I am not a child, and I do not appreciate the idea that Amazon will take part in defining what I can or cannot purchase with my own cash.

One thing I have always admired about Amazon is that it functions as a neutral marketplace. Please do not change this.



I understand that you do not want us to pull "Confederate-related merchandise" form our website.

I want to inform you that there is an ongoing investigation about this issue so we have put a hold on the inventory of these items.

I want to assure you that if the investigation results comes out to be positive we'll surely re-list the items on our website.

Further, I've forwarded your comments to the investigation team for their consideration.

Your understanding is highly required for this issue.

Best regards,
M H Shaikh

Blogger James Dixon June 24, 2015 1:07 PM  

> First it could be that in fact there have not been 1000s of emails sent MacMillan's way.

Could be, yes. But somehow I doubt it.

> There is no loss of revenue and if asked why they can make the simple case that the flag has become to associated with a ruthless ideology and naturally is offensive to many people.

Oh, there will be loss of revenue. Especially for Walmart. And Ebay is, of course, lying. They have no intention of removing anything unless a complaint is issued. That's standard procedure for them.

Blogger VD June 24, 2015 1:26 PM  

One group doesn't matter, the other does.

Strange that we matter so little when Tor's editors are lobbying hard to change the Hugo rules then.

First it could be that in fact there have not been 1000s of emails sent MacMillan's way.

Not possible. We know there have from people at Macmillan.

Blogger Groot June 24, 2015 1:48 PM  

This is like a form-letter of lies from the SJW-mat, over and over again, impervious to reality:

A.G. Carpenter

“Silence is Support” – June 23

….But, Torgersen and Correia maintain that they themselves are not racist, sexist, or homophobic. They just, don’t say anything about Beale’s ongoing rants. Maybe they laugh at his jokes or hit like on the comment window. They can argue all they want that they are not be bigots themselves, but their actions say otherwise.

Correia reached out to Beale last year. This year he reached out to GamerGate (with admittedly uncertain results when it comes to the ballot stuffing) – a group known for its sexist attitudes towards women and a radical and violent fringe. And Torgersen got in deeper with Beale by coordinating their slates under the Sad and Rabid Puppies flags. This isn’t just silent support.

This isn’t just silence that is interpreted as support. This is a deliberate alliance with those who do not hide their racist, sexist, homophobic agendas.

But I will not be silent. And I will not support the ideologies that led a young man to murder nine men and women in a church in Charleston. i will not shrug and say “That Vox Day. He’s an asshat but what can you do? It’s just one man ranting on the internet.” I do not want the others like Dylan Roof looking at the world of SF/F and thinking “See? They agree with me.”

Because I don’t.

Because we don’t.

Because silence only leads to regression.

Blogger Robert What? June 24, 2015 1:54 PM  

McMillan makes so much money selling overpriced textbooks to a captive audience (college students) that I don't know if they care what happens to Tor books.

Anonymous Donn #0114 June 24, 2015 2:08 PM  

I haven't followed the HUGO thing very closely other than to pick up that there has been an organized effort by one slate to out-slate the other slate...that there is an insiders spat over ideology.

Yet another bald faced lie. You wouldn't even be here if not for the Hugos, Tor boycott, and slander coming from the SJWs.

I asked a career criminal (who was also a habitual liar) if it bothered him that the first thing out of his mouth was nearly always a lie. His answer, "No, I just don't think about it. They feel the same to me."

Anonymous Alexander, #10 June 24, 2015 2:14 PM  

Well hey! If it's inconsequential than you can enjoy watching us flail uselessly as your side prepares its next offensive. After all, one more charge and we'll arrive at the promised tomorrow, comrade!

When I see my enemies doing something useless, I don't generally go around pointing it out to them.

Blogger VD June 24, 2015 2:18 PM  

In any case, we'll see if a boycott has any impact. They almost never do and the boycotters go back to doing what they did before....ignoring it.

We don't care.

Anonymous Anonymous June 24, 2015 2:18 PM  

One of the things that really stands out in the Confederate Flag debate is just how powerfully massive immigration has moved European-American affairs out of our hands.

National Review denouced the flag under the byline of a Muslim.
The demand, of course, comes from africans.
The governor of S Carolina who is all for caving in is an Indian.
The person cited above who responded for Amazon has a south asian name.
etc etc.

What really hits me is that by caving in to this demand, the officials in question are agreeing that in some way European-Americans, and specifically those from the South, are collectively responsible for a savage murder that has nothing at all to do with them.

Which is entirely the point.

So, again: we now know the rules.

All crimes commited by africans and latinos against European-Americans are the full responsibility of every black and latino, all are guilty.

Blogger Double E June 24, 2015 2:44 PM  

Ill be sending my letters shortly. I'm waiting on my blood-ink and human leather parchment to finish curing

Anonymous Alexander, #10 June 24, 2015 2:53 PM  

Double E,

You have to be very careful these days when writing - the skin is very thin.

Blogger Godless Heathen June 24, 2015 2:56 PM  

One wonders about her silent support of ISIS and Assad.

Blogger Unknown June 24, 2015 3:12 PM  

Yet another story that involves insulting your customer, and the company doing the right thing and firing said employee. In this case it merely involved insults to one other person in the room (heh heh, butt cracks). Note the falsified medical condition only played a minor role in the fine.

Blogger VD June 24, 2015 3:28 PM  

Unsurprisingly, The SJW is Tad.

What a loser.

Anonymous Anonymous June 24, 2015 3:59 PM  

Will be purchasing 3 postcards and postage for same on way home from work.

This is my second sortie in the Anti SJW wars in general and in the Battle of Gallo in particular. How many sorties before I can apply for my VFM wings?

Blogger Student in Blue June 24, 2015 4:21 PM  

How many sorties before I can apply for my VFM wings?

Right about the time you hear the lamentations of their womanish men and mannish women.

Anonymous Anonymous June 24, 2015 4:27 PM  

I think I will be consulting the MacMillan Code of Conduct as I compose my correspondence:

A few of the more salient points of interest:

- All employees are accountable for their actions and required to conduct business with integrity . . .

- Each of us is expected to be familiar with and follow the policies, laws and regulations that apply to our jobs;
conduct our business according to the highest ethical and legal standards . . .

- The exercise of good judgment is still expected from employees at all times.

- In deciding whether a violation of the Code has occurred or is about to occur you should ask yourself:

• Could this conduct be viewed as dishonest, unethical or unlawful?
• Could this conduct hurt Macmillan – e.g., could it cause us to lose credibility with customers or business
• Could this conduct hurt other people – e.g., other employees or customers?
• Would I be embarrassed to see this conduct reported in the newspaper?
• Does it feel wrong

Employees may not violate the Code or Company policy, even if a manager or other senior individual instructs them to do so. Failure to comply with any provision of the Code or Company policy may result in disciplinary action up to and including termination of employment.

These consequences may apply not only to the individuals who commit misconduct or violate, breach, disregard or contravene our internal policies, [i.e. Irene Gallo] but also to any person who condones misconduct or fails to report or take reasonable steps to prevent or address it [i.e. Moshe Feder].

Anonymous Anonymous June 24, 2015 5:41 PM  

So, what color ink is most appropriate for a serious handwritten letter?

Oxblood or Carbon Black?

Blogger VFM #7634 June 24, 2015 6:35 PM  

Unsurprisingly, The SJW is Tad.

What a loser.

Dang, missed my chance to say "Shut up, Tad" to the real Tad.

Anonymous zen0 June 24, 2015 8:08 PM  

I left this at Peter Grant's blog. He is supportive, but not calling for resignations or firings.

I think it is reasonable and not abusive.

Found this blog through VP.

Just a thought. I have negotiated on political levels before, and the one thing one does not do, is adopt a moderate stance, especially with ideological hardliners.

It does not actually leave any room to negotiate, plus, you undermine the hardcore that are on your side. The Mac-Torlings will simply identify you as "reasonable, as opposed to the loonies" and will you use as a wedge to deligitimize and disqualify the Rabids, while eventually whittling away your "demands" to something to take under advisement.

I understand your appeal to reasonable discourse, but those you want to discourse with are NOT reasonable.

Culture wars are wars of survival. Ask the American natives.

Anonymous Shutup, Tad June 24, 2015 8:12 PM  

> Unsurprisingly, The SJW is Tad.

Well, duh.

Bald assertions simply contrary to whatever the prevailing opinions are.
In a smarmy, smells like a dirty diaper kind of voice.

Eeewww. Don't talk to us, Tad.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling June 24, 2015 8:34 PM  

Not just flags, Amazon, which doesn't, for example, refuse to sell books for pedophiles, zapped the book Embattled Banner: A Reasonable Defense of the Confederate Battle Flag by one Don Hinkle; I found this mentioned in a discussion on an Amazon Seller forum, it's currently indexed by Google, but the link is now a 404. That goes quite a bit further in Amazon taking an ideological position, one others have noted doesn't extend to Nazi or Commie stuff.

Blogger Danby June 24, 2015 10:49 PM  

"Unsurprisingly, The SJW is Tad."
Well, I'm surprised.
He didn't seem gay enough for Tad.I mean, he was obviously gay, which I called him out on (in graphic terms, which automatthew asked me to remove). But not quite as mincing fairy queen as Tad usually is.

Blogger Matthew June 24, 2015 10:54 PM  

My Tad-meter was also in need of calibration, Danby. I was just ignoring The SJW.

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