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Monday, June 01, 2015

The descent of literary criticism

Natalie Luhrs will be live-tweeting her feelz about THE WAR IN HEAVEN, beginning June 11. I wonder if she'll like it?:
Before Theodore “Vox Day” Beale was the central figure in the Sad/Rabid Puppies Hugo Awards hacking, he wrote a series of religious-inspired fantasy novels for Pocket Books. And blogger Natalie Luhrs is going to live-tweet his debut novel, Eternal Warriors: The War in Heaven, for charity.

Here’s how it works: You donate money to RAINN, a charity that operates the National Sexual Assault Hotline. (Or to a similar organization in your own country.) You send proof of your donation to Luhrs. And for every $5 you donate, Luhrs will livetweet a page of the book, starting June 11 with the hashtag #readingVD. She will also republish her tweets, with additional commentary, on a chapter-by-chapter basis, on her site, Pretty-Terrible. If people raise $2,000, she’ll do the entire book. (She is currently at $920.)
Yeah, probably not. I'd be considerably more impressed if she'd chosen A THRONE OF BONES instead. And it's kind of a pity that she didn't choose THE WORLD IN SHADOW, I would have been genuinely interested to see her reaction to that. I'm rather dubious that 300 tweets that alternate between snarking about how bad the writing is and how stupid the author is will prove to be very entertaining for long.

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73 Comments:

Anonymous Soga June 01, 2015 2:07 PM  

Well, on the bright side, THE WAR IN HEAVEN does consist of gospel truths. So, in a way, she's spreading the gospel.

I mean, if you think about it, that's a win for us. You've gotten God's enemies doing our work for us.

Really neat how the rabbits dance to your tune.

Anonymous Huckleberry (#87) -- est. 1977 June 01, 2015 2:14 PM  

If her tweets are more rigorous than "LOL", "ZOMG!", or "FAIL" I'll be impressed.
I am not expecting to be impressed.

Blogger Giraffe June 01, 2015 2:26 PM  

Sparklepunter weighs in:

As someone who livetweeted Milo Yiannopolous’ “poetry” book, Eskimo Papoose, all I can do is wish her the best of luck. That shit is more toxic than Godzilla poop on a radioactive dump site.

Anonymous Huckleberry (#87) -- est. 1977 June 01, 2015 2:34 PM  

Probability that this ends with her turning up in a Vegas brothel with a new name -- 66%

Anonymous Tom June 01, 2015 2:34 PM  

I actually really liked the "War in Heaven," but it definitely had the first novel vibe about it. It will be pretty easy to pick clunky spots I am sure. But, I totally stole one of the ideas from it for part of my setting in the novel I'm writing.

Anonymous BGS June 01, 2015 2:34 PM  

I thought she was just going to post her reaction to each page not the contents of each.

Blogger Nate June 01, 2015 2:35 PM  

think of how much more money she could have raised by doing ATOB.

Blogger Darth Toolpodicus (#144) June 01, 2015 2:42 PM  

I liked Wrath of Angels best. Jehuel(sp?) really sticks in my mind for some reason. The scene where he transforms from mountebank back to archangel once he recovers his sword made a lasting impression.

Blogger Owen June 01, 2015 2:42 PM  

Why not live-tweet on of the books nominated?

Blogger Dexter June 01, 2015 2:48 PM  

Keep a jug of eye bleach within reach and take a look at Natalie.

The horror... the horror...

Blogger ScuzzaMan June 01, 2015 2:50 PM  

A commenter marvels that some publisher paid him for it.

But the point is, some publisher DID pay him for it. So, by the only metric that matters, it was a successful book.

What's her claim to literary superiority? She can use Twitter?

I cannot imagine why I am not more impressed.

Blogger Harsh June 01, 2015 2:51 PM  

Keep a jug of eye bleach within reach and take a look at Natalie.

The horror... the horror...


I hadda go and look... ::shudder::

Blogger Noah B #120 June 01, 2015 2:51 PM  

Keep a jug of eye bleach within reach and take a look at Natalie.

The horror... the horror...


Pretty Terrible. Seems appropriate.

Blogger Harsh June 01, 2015 2:52 PM  

What's her claim to literary superiority? She can use Twitter?

I cannot imagine why I am not more impressed.


It's all just SJW theater. Which in the end is all they have.

Blogger Dexter June 01, 2015 2:54 PM  

Hey let's live blog one of Natalie's books. Oh wait, she hasn't written any!

She must not know that the British government is hiring people to not write SF books. (Or can only Damien Walter have that job?)

Blogger Krul June 01, 2015 2:55 PM  

I typed the title into google, having never read it. Ratings are 3.6/5 (Goodreads), 4/5 (Manybooks), 4.1/5 (Amazon) and 5/5 (Risingshadow).

So what's the point of this, exactly?

Anonymous Quartermaster June 01, 2015 2:56 PM  

How do you live blog a book? The idea is silly in and of itself.

Blogger Quizzer W June 01, 2015 3:02 PM  

This would lend itself well to a drinking game...

Blogger Salt June 01, 2015 3:07 PM  

Ilk, are we not entertained?

Anonymous Donn #0114 June 01, 2015 3:12 PM  

I don't care.

Blogger Krul June 01, 2015 3:15 PM  

Bringing up literary quality is a very bad move for the SJW side. On the one hand, "Sarah/Sally", "the hoi polloi", or in VD's case "the Sun supported by rays".

On the other hand, "If You Were A Dinosaur My Love" or "The Day The World Turned Upside-Down".

Blogger Hazim June 01, 2015 3:26 PM  

Someone in the comments compared you to L. Ron Hubbard. Is that a first?

Blogger AmyJ June 01, 2015 3:26 PM  

Ah, she used to be a book reviewer. Guessing she's unemployed now and attempting to capitalize on VD being the center of the maelstrom that's become the Hugos, crossing her fingers that io9 or some other SJW bastion of self-righteous twaddle will take notice and hire her.

Like those who can't do, teach, those who can't write, review. This should be interesting.

Anonymous Steve June 01, 2015 3:37 PM  

Hah.

Random thoughts:

* I *am* entertained. $40 wouldn't have bought nearly as much popcorn.

* There's no such thing as bad publicity.

* Yannamawanna or whatever was one of the first commenters on Lurtz's blog. No word on his progress in building a lifesized papier mache effigy of Vox though.

* Natalie Lurtz looks like a fat Paul Giamatti

* Lurtz's blog comments are full of legbeards snarking at the YA themes of a book they haven't read. The same sort of legbeards who gobble up YA nonsense like Twilight. Legbeards gonna beard-leg.

* That shit is more toxic than Godzilla poop on a radioactive dump site. - kiddie-rape chortler Chris Kluwe

* Charlie Jane Anders would make an awesome second-string Batman villain, called He-She.

Blogger Karl June 01, 2015 3:37 PM  

Does Christianity have the only social doctrine unacceptable to SJWs? Not hardly Reformers want to Erase Confucius's Influence in Asia. That's a Mistake

Interpretations of Confucius have to better accommodate the modern imperative for gender parity and the desire for greater individual freedoms. Such reassessments have taken place many times before; Confucianism has never been a corpus of indelible strictures but a living, breathing doctrine that has been debated and reinterpreted to serve different needs in the past 2,500 years, in much the same way Christianity had its Reformation and Judaism made its own accommodations to the modern world. Now Confucius, who was every bit as important to East Asian civilization as Jesus was to the West, requires his own renaissance. After all, his influence can still be felt (for good and bad) within families, corporations, schools, governments and human relations of all types across East Asia.

Blogger Rantor June 01, 2015 3:40 PM  

For a minute you had a fan, and then she remembered, it was Thrones and Bones she liked, not A Throne of Bones. Oh the confusion.

Anonymous the bandit June 01, 2015 3:49 PM  

This would lend itself well to a drinking game...

My thoughts exactly. Ilk more clever than I could certainly draft up a list of predictable comments/reactions to drink to.

Blogger Daniel June 01, 2015 3:52 PM  

Isn't live-tweeting your thoughts about things you are doing normally just called "tweeting?"

Blogger Nate Winchester June 01, 2015 3:52 PM  

300 tweets that alternate between snarking about how bad the writing is and how stupid the author is will prove to be very entertaining for long.

Wow, Vox. You are so wrong.

Well... not exactly, but the things I could show you on the internet... twilight sporkings, 50 shade sporkings, slacktivist has even been doing the Left Behind sporkings. (even I tried my hand at a few, but I always tried to avoid bringing the author into it - it was my philosophy that a work should be mocked on its own)

There is an entire world out there you haven't even BEGUN to know about.

But I'm not saying that's a bad thing.

Blogger Danby June 01, 2015 3:53 PM  

* Yannamawanna or whatever was one of the first commenters on Lurtz's blog. No word on his progress in building a lifesized papier mache effigy of Vox though.

He's having trouble finding a big enough strap-on and getting the pelvic thrust actuator to work reliably.

OpenID mattse001 June 01, 2015 3:53 PM  

Of course she would choose your first novel, not something later that might be a bit more polished.

Blogger Danby June 01, 2015 3:54 PM  

* Charlie Jane Anders would make an awesome second-string Batman villain, called He-She.

Not really. He's just another pink-haired faggot.

Blogger grendel June 01, 2015 3:58 PM  

She's so twittarded that she is offended by angels fighting against demons? I'm so triggered right now.

Anonymous Trimegistus June 01, 2015 3:58 PM  

Have none of these people heard the old show biz maxim "There's no such thing as bad publicity"? Bit by bit, Tweet by Tweet, they are making Vox the most important person in SF.

Blogger RobertT June 01, 2015 4:00 PM  

Super boring. Quit cluttering up my twitter feed.

Blogger RobertT June 01, 2015 4:00 PM  

Super boring. Quit cluttering up my twitter feed.

Anonymous Steve June 01, 2015 4:04 PM  

I don't drink, but here's what I would have done in my drinking days:

* "creepy", "horrifying" - one sip
* "problematic" - one dram
* "*eye roll*" - one dram
* "Wow... just, wow." - two drams
* "So that’s a thing that happened." - two drams
* Any reference to Natalie eating - no drinking, I don't want anybody to die of liver failure

BTW her blog is a treasure trove of social justice legbeardery.

This post, in which she explains why Monster Hunter Nation commenter James May is engaged in nefarious "ongoing surveillance of women, persons of color, and other marginalized voices in the science fiction and fantasy community", is a classic of the genre.

May collects quotes that SJW's publicly broadcast on the internet. Apparently that is "surveillance" and it's NOT OK.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer June 01, 2015 4:09 PM  

"Someone in the comments compared you to L. Ron Hubbard. Is that a first?"

Was it supposed to be derogatory? LRON lived on a yacht with hot chicks dressed up in sailor outfits and screwed with the IRS. Sounds pretty bad-ass to me.

Anonymous Steve June 01, 2015 4:09 PM  

Danby - He's just another pink-haired faggot.

Sure, but so was Jim Carrey's Riddler. And King Tut was just a fat guy who loved Egyptology.

Batman only looks good because most of his enemies are retarded. It's not enough for them to just rob a bank, they have to don improbable disguises and leave behind a series of easily-decyphered penguin-based clues or whatever. Anders would fit right in.

Blogger Owen June 01, 2015 4:12 PM  

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Blogger Owen June 01, 2015 4:14 PM  

social justice legbeardery

First I've read the expression.

I'm stealing it for future use (likely just offline).

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer June 01, 2015 4:15 PM  

@Steve

I followed the link and read the post you linked to. I guess that means I'm engaged in surveillance now too.

Apparently the difference between surveillance and reading someones public writings is whether or not they agree with you.

Blogger Danby June 01, 2015 4:24 PM  

@Steve
"Batman only looks good because most of his enemies are retarded. It's not enough for them to just rob a bank, they have to don improbable disguises and leave behind a series of easily-decyphered penguin-based clues "

So true, so true.What's the point of hiding your identity when you're wearing an inch of white pancake and a Glasgow smile, purple velvet tails and striped pants? You're afraid a name is going to help people track you down?

Anonymous Bz June 01, 2015 4:27 PM  

You should have a sale, just so people easily can follow along. To be helpful.

Anonymous Bz June 01, 2015 4:38 PM  

Maybe offer Nathalie an affiliate coupon with a kickback, like "use VFM20 to get 20% at checkout". She gets 10% to her charity or wherever she wants. It's a great deal, right?

Blogger Quadko June 01, 2015 4:45 PM  

I haven't read the book yet, but talk about playing on the easy setting: "review a debut novel for writing maturity." Most of my favorite author's early books are... hm... obviously earlier books.

Blogger JDC June 01, 2015 4:48 PM  

This has as much traction Pox Vay's lifeless blog. Bald tires screeching on the moistened talladega racetrack of SJW futility and tears.

Loved this quote, "Ugh,Vox Day. I only learned of this guy recently but by god, is he a vile, repulsive human being. As such, I don’t think I ever want to read any fiction he ever wrote."

Too bad...not only will it not read Vox's fiction but there alwo wont be any naughtiness in the bedroom either.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer June 01, 2015 4:55 PM  

@JDC

There mad at Vox because they secretly want his babies, but know that can never happen.

Just kiddin, I'm a kidder.

Blogger Cail Corishev June 01, 2015 5:06 PM  

How do you live blog a book?

If you're not capable of writing a 7th-grade-level book report with a logical structure and a comprehensive treatment of the work, you instead flip through it skimming for things that catch your fleeting attention, while posting whatever disconnected thoughts pop into your head to a communication service that's designed to scatter and forget them as soon as possible.

Blogger rcocean June 01, 2015 5:09 PM  

She sounds like a hate filled individual.

Blogger JDC June 01, 2015 5:29 PM  

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Anonymous 10900209 June 01, 2015 5:52 PM  

Natalie Luhrs is proof of that old aphorism about feminism existing to give ugly women purpose. Holy cow.

Blogger Corvinus June 01, 2015 5:55 PM  

Keep a jug of eye bleach within reach and take a look at Natalie.

The horror... the horror...


Ugly bitch only has one advantage over Ruth Bader Ginsburg, namely, fewer wrinkles.

As she most likely only gets tentative attention from Gammas and Omegas, no wonder she hates men and goes on about sexual assault.

Blogger Dave W. (#0257) June 01, 2015 6:40 PM  

* Yannamawanna or whatever was one of the first commenters on Lurtz's blog. No word on his progress in building a lifesized papier mache effigy of Vox though.

He's having trouble finding a big enough strap-on and getting the pelvic thrust actuator to work reliably.


I guess he's having trouble getting it hooked up to the chair.

Blogger Thucydides June 01, 2015 7:34 PM  

OTOH, how many people who would not otherwise have been exposed to the book will now be getting a chance to see it?

Napoleon once said something to the effect of "never interrupt your enemies when they are making a mistake".

Blogger maniacprovost June 01, 2015 7:49 PM  

How little focus does she have to be able to tweet once per page? I can go 5 chapters without even stopping to blink. I certainly wouldn't notice turning pages.

Blogger Cataline Sergius June 01, 2015 7:56 PM  

Bad timing for the announcement on her part.

Twitter has better things to talk about today.

Wheaties might be the Breakfast of Champions, but they never talk about the side effects.

Blogger Kull June 01, 2015 9:03 PM  

Hey according to the experts on 770 Vox isn't a Christian. In addition to being experts in literature and film they are apparently well versed in theology.

Mr. Wright isn't a Christian either because he once wanted to punch someone. If desiring to punch someone is a bar to salvation then I will be left behind for sure. If I am not thinking about punching someone it's because I am asleep.

Blogger Hammerli280 June 01, 2015 9:04 PM  

Twittering Throne of Bones could be amusing, though.

Blogger Matt June 01, 2015 9:12 PM  

Why doesnt she just post a link to Somethingawfuls review of the video game

Anonymous rubberducky June 01, 2015 9:36 PM  

I'm amazed that she could get more than $2.50 for this stupid and embarrassing superiority dance. The idiocy, cravenness, and cruelty of these noble SJWs never ceases to amaze.

Anonymous MendoScot June 01, 2015 9:58 PM  

I'm almost tempted to reclaim my Twitter ban, were it not that I really don't like liver.

Anonymous zen0 June 01, 2015 10:09 PM  

> Napoleon once said something to the effect of "never interrupt your enemies when they are making a mistake".

Having thought about that for a while, why not figure out a way to lubricate their way?
More activist.

Anonymous Lulabelle (68) June 01, 2015 10:23 PM  

"Wheaties might be the Breakfast of Champions, but they never talk about the side effects.".
Lol. Nearly spewed claret all over the screen.

Anonymous Lulabelle (68) June 01, 2015 10:25 PM  

"BTW her blog is a treasure trove of social justice legbeardery."

Legbeardery..........that term just screams "fat, annoying lesbian".

Ugh.

Anonymous Not-So-Merry zen0 June 01, 2015 10:29 PM  

I have two things that are bothering me.

Does War in Heaven have a Chapter 4?

And

Is there a virtual equivalent of a Nevada Whorehouse?

That would be awesome.

Blogger Dave W. (#0257) June 01, 2015 10:45 PM  

Is there a virtual equivalent of a Nevada Whorehouse?

Second Life?

Blogger Danby June 01, 2015 10:47 PM  

Is there a virtual equivalent of a Nevada Whorehouse?

Tumblr

Blogger LP 999/Eliza June 02, 2015 2:33 AM  

Really?

I hereby request Natalie Luhrs to read TIA via youtube video posted forevermore.

Blogger rho June 02, 2015 2:53 AM  

I suggest making sure she reaches the financial level where she has to read the entire book. Then hold her tweet-per-page promise up to scrutiny. Chances are decent she'll dodge reading it at all; chances are pretty good that she'll lightly skim it, and one can nail her on inconsistencies.

The flip side is that RAINN gets two grand, which will probably go to ATT bills.

In the meantime, let us never forget that Natalie Luhrs valued reading a book at $2,000. She could have picked any number, but that's what she came up with--entirely on her volition.

Somewhere in that is an SI unit--the Luhr.

Anonymous Bz June 02, 2015 3:26 AM  

"Hey according to the experts on 770 Vox isn't a Christian. In addition to being experts in literature and film they are apparently well versed in theology."

Oh obviously they can add that distinction. For example, they already go by the well-known maxim 'hate the sinner, love the sin'.

Blogger Buddy E. June 02, 2015 7:12 AM  

So, at least her web site title is accurate... I don't think eyebleach will fix what I've seen though.

Anonymous 224 June 02, 2015 9:45 AM  

Vox - this HAS to be devastating. I mean for someone like Natalie Lurch to threaten to publicly shame you... well it will be hard to make a come back from this. Sorry. You might want to seek counseling pro-actively.


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