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Saturday, June 06, 2015

The end of the Diaspora

Martin van Creveld anticipates it. The Learned Elders of Wye see it. David Goldberg sees it. As does Rich Cohen:
The horror of the Holocaust purchased us a 70-year vacation from history, though we didn’t know it. We believed the world had changed, as had human nature. Jews remained distinct in the new dispensation, but in a good way—a near-at-hand exotic, a symbol of exile, which we were told was the natural state of modern man. For perhaps the only time in history, you might actually want to be a Jew. Because of the close families and good husbands and yada yada. Saul Bellow, Phillip Roth, Mel Brooks. To those of us who came of age in these years, the future seemed like it would be more of the same, the present carried on forever.

We were wrong.

If you go online and read the comments on any story about Israel or George Soros or search certain terms on Twitter, you begin to feel the golden age of the American Jews was just a moment in time. Perhaps the old paranoia stirs in me, but I see ominous signs everywhere:

What changed? Well, for starters, there are just fewer of us in proportion to the whole. Whereas Jews once constituted five percent of America, and as much as forty percent of New York, those numbers have shrunk. We’re perhaps thirteen percent of New York and around two percent of the nation. In this sense, American Jews are living with the results of their success. This is indeed the promised land. It’s where Jews fulfilled the dream which, for many, has been to stop being Jews and become part of the imagined whole.  Like the caboose of a train, we’re getting smaller as we go away.
I think Cohen is leaving out three of the more important reasons for the Jewish decline. First, being the most left-leaning portion of the American electorate, Jews are disproportionately affected by the dyscivic and dysgenic consequences of their own social policies. In the traditional 1950s America they so hated, a Jewish man with abnormal inclinations would be heavily encouraged to resist them, get married, and have at least three Jewish children. In post-traditional America, such a man is encouraged to do anything from play house with another man to put on a dress, mutilate himself, and call himself Esther. But whatever non-traditional lifestyle he chooses, his line is going to end with him.

Second, as Cohen says himself, "Jews had re-imagined the nation." Of course, they didn't merely reimagine it, they helped remake it more to their liking out of the mistaken belief that a multi-ethnic America would be better and safer for them than an Anglo-Saxon America. This is turning out to be wildly untrue, as the genteel disdain they so resented on the part of the elite White Anglo-Saxon Episcopalians is considerably milder than the way in which they regarded by nearly every immigrant group that the Jews have sought to import, from Central Americans to Eastern Europeans to Asians.

(The same is true in England, for that matter; the rise in anti-semitism in the UK isn't merely the result of Muslim immigration, but Polish immigration as well. Until I moved to Europe, I had no idea that Poles tend to dislike Jews even more than they dislike Russians and Communists. I'm not sure they entirely distinguish between the three.)

The third is that a number of elite Jews in America have increasingly attempted to use America's military on behalf of Israel's foreign policy. This is increasingly resented by Americans across the political spectrum; for example, neither Right nor Left is even remotely interested in invading Iran as the neocons have been demanding for the last 13 years. Their efforts have not yet boomeranged, as Dr. van Creveld fears, but at some point they most likely will if they do not cease.

I don't see it getting as bad for American Jews as it will for their few remaining European cousins, mostly because Americans are much less ethno-nationalistic and there is considerably more space. But I do think Cohen is correct in anticipating the significant decline of Jewish influence in America. Because, at the end of the day, Israel is the Jewish nation and the idea of the functional multi-ethnic society is not long for this world.

Of course, the idea was always bound to fail. It was obvious, on the basis of the assumption on which the belief was founded: "We believed the world had changed, as had human nature." The world may have changed, for a time, but it will always change again. Human nature, on the other hand, doesn't. 

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Blogger Robert What? June 06, 2015 6:24 AM  

What were Ted Kennedy's motivations in setting this whole horror show in motion? Was it the traditional Irish hatred of the English? Did he think that if he toppled the Anglican power structure that things would be better? If Kennedy could come back today, would he be pleased or horrified at what he set in motion?

Anonymous PhillipGeorge©2015 June 06, 2015 6:28 AM  

A Christian can look at a Karaite Jew and say without ambivalence, their book, the Tanakh, is our book, the Bible. It cannot be so said with the Rabbinical Talmudic Jew. Karaites, I believe, understand a bigger world, and their place in it. Rabbinical Jews don't understand Christianity's claims; equals, don't believe their own scriptures.

Having so successfully attached Christianity through the courts/ lawfare and the legislature and executive the only solid ground we have in common is burning beneath their feet.

It seems Isaac Newton knew the 7 and 62 weeks prophecy. Seems the shit really does hit the fan this September. Come all ye faithful.

Anonymous TroperA June 06, 2015 6:42 AM  

"This is turning out to be wildly untrue, as the genteel disdain for the Jews they so resented on the part of the semi-mythical White Anglo-Saxon Protestants is considerably milder than the way they are regarded by nearly every immigrant group that the Jews have sought to import, from Hispanics to Eastern Europeans to Asians."

There's a movie called "Revenge of the Nerds". In it, the titular nerds (some of whom look very Jewish) take on the jocks, all of whom are some of the whitest, richest, meanest, most muscle-headed, most arrogant, most racist caricatures who ever walked the earth. I'm convinced every progressive and SJW believes that men like this did exist, still exist, and are now running the country, pulling every last string and rigging every game to keep people with even a drop of non-white blood from ever succeeding at anything.

The ROTN Jock is the progressive's bogeyman. The SJW fears the foam at the mouth jihadists and the Black Power Brigade far less than she/he/it/zit fears the Great White Terror. The laughter of the confident Frat Boy rings in their ears like the cry of a Nazgûl.

Anonymous zen0 June 06, 2015 6:50 AM  

@ Rich Cohen

..... but I feel I’m being defined by something bigger than myself.

Go figure.

Anonymous zen0 June 06, 2015 7:03 AM  

@ Rich Cohen

Before the rise of modern Israel, the philosophy of American Jews came to characterize the Jew by default. Hence the age of the New Deal Jew, the Women’s Lib and Freedom Riding Jew. This Jew had chosen New York over Jerusalem. His dream was secular.

You thought that you could be “normal” like all the other nations. Your left hand replaced me with socialism and universalism. Your right hand banished me with nationalism and state supremacism (sic).....you have fled your destiny, you have denied your connection to Jerusalem.

Anonymous p-dawg June 06, 2015 7:16 AM  

Weird how Israel isn't trying to be a diverse, multicultural society.

Blogger Student in Blue June 06, 2015 7:25 AM  

I seriously have no idea how someone could read this and articles like it, and claim Vox is antisemitic.

Rather, how someone could claim that and be reasonable at the same time.

The comment on Anglo-Saxon America makes me wonder about Jewish numbers in Europe pre-WW2. Not sure where I'd find those numbers however, but given German propensity to say "naah, come on everyone who's a hard worker!" when times are good, makes me wonder if Jewish numbers were higher in England and Germany back then, much like numbers were high in Anglo-Saxon America.

Blogger VD June 06, 2015 7:30 AM  

I seriously have no idea how someone could read this and articles like it, and claim Vox is antisemitic.

Because apparently my recognition that Jewish actions have consequences and my lack of desire to live under Jewish rule is equivalent to hatred in their view.

Blogger Tommy Hass June 06, 2015 7:41 AM  

"The same is true in England, for that matter; the rise in anti-semitism in the UK isn't merely the result of Muslim immigration, but Polish immigration as well. Until I moved to Europe, I had no idea that Poles tend to dislike Jews even more than they dislike Russians and Communists. I'm not sure they entirely distinguish between the three."

I talked to a Pole in a night club one night. I didn't know he was Polish and I was guessinghis nationality/ethnicity. He had a "come on, really?" expression when I asked him if he was Serbian, but when I asked him if he was Jewish, he looked like he was gonna hammer me in the face. Lulz.

Anonymous AbuDhabi June 06, 2015 7:41 AM  

>The same is true in England, for that matter; the rise in anti-semitism in the UK isn't merely the result of Muslim immigration, but Polish immigration as well. Until I moved to Europe, I had no idea that Poles tend to dislike Jews even more than they dislike Russians and Communists. I'm not sure they entirely distinguish between the three.

Some days, I learn something new about my own nation. This such a day.

Blogger John Saunders June 06, 2015 7:53 AM  

Not true. Multiethnic "societies" do "work." but workable muthiethnic societies are not "societies" as the West has come to think of them in recent centuries. Such societies are not nations; they are empires. Existential empires on the models of Rome and China. The former national identities dissolve into the imperial identity, much as China is a civilization pretending to be a state.

I expect the modern Hellas will take its place in the Empire of the West to come; and in case anyone misses my meaning, the modern Hellas is Europe.

Anonymous joe doakes June 06, 2015 7:58 AM  

Every immigrant group changes the host country in some way, sometimes for the better (kosher dills) and sometimes for the worse (lutefisk). Hard to say in advance which it will be, to know whether to welcome immigrants or deny them.

Blogger Joel #0164 June 06, 2015 8:02 AM  

What were Ted Kennedy's motivations in setting this whole horror show in motion?

I think you give Kennedy a little too much credit.

"Most important for the content of immigration reform [i.e., loosening], the driving force at the core of the movement, reaching back to the 1920s, were Jewish organizations long active in opposing racial and ethnic quotas. These included the American Jewish Congress, the American Jewish Committee, the Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith, and the American Federation of Jews from Eastern Europe. Jewish members of the Congress, particularly representatives from New York and Chicago, had maintained steady but largely ineffective pressure against the national origins quotas since the 1920s…. Following the shock of the Holocaust, Jewish leaders had been especially active in Washington in furthering immigration reform. To the public, the most visible evidence of the immigration reform drive was played by Jewish legislative leaders, such as Representative Celler and Senator Jacob Javits of New York. Less visible, but equally important, were the efforts of key advisers on presidential and agency staffs. These included senior policy advisers such as Julius Edelson and Harry Rosenfield in the Truman administration, Maxwell Rabb in the Eisenhower White House, and presidential aide Myer Feldman, assistant secretary of state Abba Schwartz, and deputy attorney general Norbert Schlei in the Kennedy-Johnson administration."

- Hugh Davis Graham, "Collision Course"

Blogger Doom June 06, 2015 8:03 AM  

As bad as Europe for them? I think, in large part, that depends on several things. First, they need to lay off and change directions. I am not sure they can quell their disgust for Americanism any more then they can quite favoring socialism and communism. As with islam, those things are counter to Americanism. If they can't change, they... won't last. Even without their self-destructive tendencies from those beliefs. That all, however, may not be the biggest problem. Even if they change, the only ones they can negotiate with may not be in power.

Mexicans won't negotiate based on any historic sympathy. Blacks are... not important. Their self-destruction is just slightly quicker than that of former Jews, if they breed faster so it isn't as obvious (if I think the number of them are false... not 14%, not 12... perhaps 10%, 8%?). Just based on those who came over the Southern border, their ratio is being lost. Add in the lack of family and the rest? The other group that is exploding are muslims. No friends anywhere in that. Orientals are still a small portion. Not sure of the real number, our government is lying all over the place and on everything.

Odd how, while they reject even their faith's understanding of God, laws, and all, they so strongly hold onto their ancestry. It doesn't' really make sense. They want to be Jews, just not Jewish? It would be like Dawkins claiming to be... whatever denomination, or Catholic, that his family was while ignoring all of the tenants, living as he does, not tithing, not being charitable, or anything else. I just don't see the point. Besides, as noted, being Jewish has gone from being beneficial to becoming a target, in much of even the Western world, especially because of how their secular and influential kin have mistreated the world around them. *cough* Soros, et. al. *cough*

As for Iran, we shouldn't hit it (just) for Israel. But not with a muppet in office. Won't happen, but should quash the idea of people living there for a couple of centuries, and from making nukes to toy with the world for longer, just to make a few points. No war needed. Glass.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 06, 2015 8:15 AM  

Jewish will be the new Cherokee. I'm of the opinion that what mad dog anti-semetism that exists is a large portion a product from jews themselves, since the crazy anti-Semite has such benefits to jews themselves.

Not all of course, I read "Culture of Critique" and quite interesting and thought provoking but hardly the theory to end all theories as the author thinks it is. So on a thread on MacDonald's website I asked why don't you go ask your antagonists yourself. My post never made it onto the thread while the usual 100 joo did this, joo did that, joo is bad posts were all there.

Blogger Tommy Hass June 06, 2015 8:20 AM  

"As for Iran, we shouldn't hit it (just) for Israel. But not with a muppet in office. Won't happen, but should quash the idea of people living there for a couple of centuries, and from making nukes to toy with the world for longer, just to make a few points. No war needed. Glass."

Oh my, look how edgy this loathsome little faggot is.

Ok, I'll bite, why should the US "glass", in other words, utterly annihilate a nation of great people, the Persians? You ought to be flayed and rolled in salt.

Seriously, how the fuck do you conceive of ANY kind of violence against a country that hasn't attacked another nation/state for since it has existed. (1979) It is completely random. Might as well do the same againt Canada.

Blogger Robert What? June 06, 2015 8:21 AM  

@Student In Blue

As an American of Jewish descent I'm saying don't drag out the "anti Semitic" canard. I do not care whether any one likes or dislikes Jews. I care how I am treated as a person. I have zero doubt I would be treated fairly and honorably by Vox should our paths ever cross. The people I am in danger from are radical Muslims, third worlders, and the American Left who are importing them in huge numbers.

Blogger Tommy Hass June 06, 2015 8:22 AM  

ISIS is not entirely wrong. It's just their targets that I disapprove of.

Blogger Tank June 06, 2015 8:23 AM  

For perhaps the only time in history, you might actually want to be a Jew. No, this is stupid. It's like saying now you might actually want to be gay. Um, no.

VD's points above are all very well stated. Fricken Jews are frequently our own worst enemies.

Tank/Jew

Anonymous karsten June 06, 2015 8:24 AM  

"Until I moved to Europe, I had no idea that Poles tend to dislike Jews even more than they dislike Russians and Communists. I'm not sure they entirely distinguish between the three."

I am half-Polish, and the Polish half of the family has lived in eastern Poland for untold centuries. They know, first hand, the nature of the Jew in a way that most Westerners don't. People here are ambivalent about any criticism of the Jews, but the truth is, the Poles know the Jews, and in particular, they know what the Jews are like when they consolidate political and economic power in a nation, as they did in Poland. It's not pretty. Where the Western world is now going, that's where Poland was prior to the war. Or to put it another way, the Jews are turning the Western world into one big Sztetl -- a Jewish hegemony and everyone else living a subsistence existence. Oh, and yes, the Polish term is "Zydokomuna," which means, "Judeocommunism." We don't differentiate between the two because communism, from the old economic Marxist brand to the current Cultural Marxist malignancy, IS Judaism.

Blogger Student in Blue June 06, 2015 8:25 AM  

@Robert What
I'm not the one who dragged it out, I'm saying other people have dragged it out even though it's ridiculously off-target.

Blogger Tommy Hass June 06, 2015 8:33 AM  

@karsten "The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you." Isn't that a Polish proverb?

And nobody answered my question: why isn't there as much hostility towards Jews as there is towards Muslims? Aren't they just as alien/harmful?

Blogger YIH June 06, 2015 8:34 AM  

Robert What?
What were Ted Kennedy's motivations in setting this whole horror show in motion?
The bar was open. Who created this monster?
That would be Emanuel Celler, who was (wait for it) a jew:

Anonymous AbuDhabi June 06, 2015 8:35 AM  

Tommy: Presumably because internal muslim minotiries are a new thing, unlike the case with Jews and Gypsies.

Blogger Casual Brutality June 06, 2015 8:52 AM  

It's amazing how one incident with one particular representative from a ethnic group different than one's own can color the lens through which you perceive that entire ethnic group for the rest of your life.

My first experience with Jews was in Orange County, California, where I grew up.

At a celebration picnic for a youth club soccer team I was part of, my parents gathered me up and we left midway through the festivities.

Apparently the mother of one of the other players had a bit too much to drink and, being Jewish, took offense to something my father (a solid Delta) said about being a deacon for our Baptist church. I found out later that she and her son, who was small and birdlike, resented my style of play, which was much more physical than most soccer people liked.

When I asked, later, what had caused us to leave the picnic, my mother told me that this woman had continually attempted to start a verbal confrontation. After not getting the verbal escalation that this Jewish woman wanted, she said to my father, "I'm woman enough to throw my beer in your face, are you man enough to slap me?"

And that was that for my participation in the soccer club. Later that night it was explained to me that sometimes Jews don't much like Christians in general and Baptists in particular. I was 12 or 13, and didn't understand much of it. After a few decades, it makes a bit more sense.

Anonymous Takin' a look June 06, 2015 8:53 AM  

@Karsten

From what I understand, thousands of Poles hid Jews from the Nazis. Because these Jews owed those Polish goyim a favor/debt, in a spiritual manner; they happily rat them out in any way, shape or form, when the Jew-controlled Red Army swept through pushing back the Germans.

@Tommy Hass

I don't want you musloids in my lands. That said, I completely agree with your Koran passages that say us Christians are easily jew-fooled idiots. Our OWN Messiah constantly hammered on staying the fuck away from them. He didn't limit it to "Pharisees" or "Sadducees" priests/rabbis, he said they ALL were the sons of satan. I do assume Karaites are not lumped in that category, because they stick with the Torah/Tanakh and reject Talmudism.

Blogger 8to12 June 06, 2015 8:59 AM  

They forgot they were God's chosen people. Consequently the Devil and the world hate the Jews, because the Devil and the world hates God.

They forgot that their is a spiritual aspect to being a Jew, not just a biological one. Consequently, the aligned themselves with liberal atheists, thinking that since atheists don't believe in anything, then atheists won't have any reason to hate Jews. They forgot that atheists are of the world, and the world hates Jews, because the world belongs to the Devil who hates Jews.

Ironically, Jews have shunned right-wing, fundamentalist Christians. Perhaps the only group in the world that doesn't hate Jews, because they take what the Bible says literally, including the parts about the Jews being God's chosen people.

Until Jews remember that the world hates them not because of biology or history, but because of God, they will continue to suffer.

Anonymous Takin' a look June 06, 2015 9:01 AM  

A better account here

Typical Talmudic behavior, use a goyische kopf as the front man for your wicked deeds against non-jews.

Blogger Tommy Hass June 06, 2015 9:13 AM  

Another thing I've read in the Quran is that Muslims shouldn't be overly friendly with Christians even though they are far more agreeable than Jews, "because they are not arrogant", lmao.

Not to play divide et impera here, but even the "Moon God" agrees that Jews are particularly obnoxious, even for infidels.

Anonymous Marellus June 06, 2015 9:15 AM  

(1)

28 May 2015

"Son of man, watchman on the wall prophesy against that Daughter of Sion, she who sits upon the waters who thinks herself blessed of me."

"Oh you wicked daughter to whom I shared my vision for my House of Israel within and without my South Africa, oh you wicked daughter, today have I commanded this servant to prophesy against you, you who is this daughter who so does my children grievous harm of mind, spirit, body and soul."

"Write to this daughter my words which my Holy Spirit now speaks to your heart to write for me, so shall you and so will you write as I may so command you to write, you shall and you will write."

"Oh you wicked daughter who extinguishes and corrupts the many lights of my truth which I sent to you as I told you that I would send to you even when first I shared my vision for my children with you, oh you wicked daughter how you have so extinguished and corrupted the many lights of my truth which I so lovingly and tenderly sent to you these many years."

"Yet have you turned from me, yet have you led my children to worship Balaam and the gods of Nimrod."

"Your camp is filled with sin of all kinds and as I, yes me I AM that I AM, Shofet haChayim v'hametim, the judge of the living and the dead, as I have already warned you of the desolation of your house so shall now and so now will it be fulfilled in its entirety."

"You think me blind, you think me deaf, you think me, yes me, Melekh Yisrael, King of Israel and King of all that is, was or might be, you think me ignorant of your doings behind your closed doors and your secret chambers across the lands."

"I know of your plans and I know of your deceptions which you feed to the minds of they whose arrogance and vanity you nourish against my words living, my words written and my words spoken, yes I know of your plans against they who speak my truth against you and those plans borne from the heart of the evil one to your own wicked hearts and also those plans to do harm to my servants."

"You, wicked daughter, you have become as Balaam and Nimrod blinding my people with your many cunning and false revelations and teachings given to you by the father which you now serve, the satan, words blasphemous and words abominable, words which you deceitfully and cunningly present as my words."

"Prophesy against this rebellious daughter son of man, watchman on the wall, prophesy against this wicked daughter who so hardens her vain heart against me and my lights which I have sent to her."

"Prophesy against this corrupt and wicked daughter and write my words to her, this Sabbath shall you and will you see the power of my Holy Spirit as it lays bare the corruptness and wickedness of this daughter which defies me so."

Anonymous Marellus June 06, 2015 9:16 AM  

(2)

"Prophesy against this adulterous daughter for her many whoreodomes and write my words to her, my words, my living word which reveals the secrets of men's hearts , yes prophesy against this adulterous daughter and write my words to this daughter and tell her of this desolation of her house which will now come in all of its fullness as she has so earned so will this desolation now come."

"Hear me, yes me, I AM that I AM, creator, hear me wicked daughter know, consider and understand deeply that as you have done to my children, as you have done to the suffering, the poor, the infirm and all of they who are weak, as you have done to all of these so shall it now come unto you 7 times recompense for this great evil, 7 times shall your recompense be, yes 7 times."

"As you have betrayed my word, my spirit of truth and my rightness so shall you receive your just recompense as I with withdraw my word from you and allow your father, the satan, to give you his words and give you his words he shall with all deceivableness of unrightness because you choose not the love of truth that you might be saved."

"Come to you he now will rebellious daughter, come to you he now shall in all forms of deceitful rightness, come to you now he and his host shall and he and his host will come to you. "

"These will and these shall come to you as ministers of rightness, these will and these shall come to you in the appearance of humble servants, these shall and these will come to you as beacons of light even those suitors of your many whoredomes will and shall come to you to betray you and use you and spew you from their mouths."

"You, yes you daughter, false and wicked daughter who serves her own arrogant vanity, you shall and you will receive all of this recompense through and because of the blindness of your wicked hearts which you have so willingly chosen against me, my words and my lights."

"Know you and understand you daughter that even now the children of ham and even the wicked children of ham now plot against you to take all of that which you have stored up these many years against my word which was already given to my people that I would provide for them."

"Let not your hearts be troubled neither let your hearts be dismayed, these things must be so servants, watchmen on the walls who writes or speaks my words for me, these things must be so to continue the awakening and winnowing of my people because my people will be a holy people to me for my plans and for my purposes."

"Let not your hearts be troubled neither let your hearts be dismayed, these things must be so servants, watchmen on the walls who writes or speaks my words for me, these things must be so because my children must know my voice and my word, living, written, or spoken."

Anonymous Marellus June 06, 2015 9:17 AM  

(3)

"Let not your hearts be troubled neither let your hearts be dismayed, these things must be so servants, watchmen on the walls who writes or speaks my words for me because my children have forgotten and have been led astray even among this wicked daughter have my children been led astray into forgetting that I AM that I AM, I change not nor does my word ever change not."

"I speak my words through my Holy Spirit to whomever I may so to choose speak my words."

"I command, yes command, I command my written words to the hearts of they of whom I have chosen with my own hand to write my words through my Holy Spirit as I may so will them to write, they will write."

"Once I have spoken my word it becomes a living thing forever."

"Once I have spoken my word in prophesy then it remains to be fulfilled by me and my word in whatever manner or form that I may so choose to fulfil my words of prophecy for my plans and for my purposes so shall and so will my word of prophecy be fulfilled always and beyond forever."

"My words of prophecy become living and then await their fulfilment ."

"Remember, always remember my children whom I so love, I AM that I AM, I am with you now, I am with you to the end of the world and I AM with you forever.

"I AM that I AM, I AM Ed HaEmet v'haTzedek, The true and righteous witness to all things, I AM the living ELohiym,"

Anonymous Marellus June 06, 2015 9:22 AM  

6 For thus saith the Lord unto the king's house of Judah; Thou art Gilead unto me, and the head of Lebanon: yet surely I will make thee a wilderness, and cities which are not inhabited.

7 And I will prepare destroyers against thee, every one with his weapons: and they shall cut down thy choice cedars, and cast them into the fire.

8 And many nations shall pass by this city, and they shall say every man to his neighbour, Wherefore hath the Lord done thus unto this great city?

9 Then they shall answer, Because they have forsaken the covenant of the Lord their God, and worshipped other gods, and served them.

-- Jeremiah 22 : 6-9 (KJV)

32 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that it shall no more be called Tophet, nor the valley of the son of Hinnom, but the valley of slaughter: for they shall bury in Tophet, till there be no place.

33 And the carcases of this people shall be meat for the fowls of the heaven, and for the beasts of the earth; and none shall fray them away.

34 Then will I cause to cease from the cities of Judah, and from the streets of Jerusalem, the voice of mirth, and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom, and the voice of the bride: for the land shall be desolate.

-- Jeremiah 7 : 32 - 34 (KJV)

The whole city shall flee from the noise of the horsemen and bowmen.
They shall go into thickets and climb up on the rocks.
Every city shall be forsaken,
And not a man shall dwell in it.

“And when you are plundered,
What will you do?
Though you clothe yourself with crimson,
Though you adorn yourself with ornaments of gold,
Though you enlarge your eyes with paint,
In vain you will make yourself fair;
Your lovers will despise you;
They will seek your life.

“For I have heard a voice as of a woman in labor,
The anguish as of her who brings forth her first child,
The voice of the daughter of Zion bewailing herself;
She spreads her hands, saying,
‘Woe is me now, for my soul is weary
Because of murderers!’

-- Jeremiah 4:28-31 (NKJV)

and he carried me away to a wilderness in the Spirit, and I saw a woman sitting upon a scarlet-coloured beast, full of names of evil-speaking, having seven heads and ten horns,

and the woman was arrayed with purple and scarlet-colour, and gilded with gold, and precious stone, and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and uncleanness of her whoredom,

and upon her forehead was a name written: `Secret, Babylon the Great, the Mother of the Whores, and the Abominations of the earth.'

-- Revelation 17 : 3-5 (KJV)

Blogger Dexter June 06, 2015 9:25 AM  

What were Ted Kennedy's motivations in setting this whole horror show in motion?

Same as Obama's today.

More Democrat voters who need gimmedats.

Weakened America, weakened Republican party, weakened conservatism, and weakened traditionalism.

Anonymous PhillipGeorge©2015 June 06, 2015 9:38 AM  

interesting you should post this today VD as it is an anniversary day of Israel taking back, or semi taking back, Jerusalem.

And what in those 48 years have they done with it?
Led the world in Worship? No
Created a House for God? Well, No
Removed pagan idols from the land? Well, hell No.

Israel's problems, in short, haven't changed one yod or iota from Joshua's or King David's.

so one: defend families, two: get the idols out, three: lead the world in worship

there Peace on Earth, problem solved.

or

what's actually going to happen.

Blogger Cail Corishev June 06, 2015 9:43 AM  

Jews remained distinct in the new dispensation, but in a good way—a near-at-hand exotic, a symbol of exile, which we were told was the natural state of modern man. For perhaps the only time in history, you might actually want to be a Jew.

This strikes me as ignorant of history (and the Old Testament). All this has happened before. Jews find themselves (intentionally or not) as a minority in a foreign culture. They blend in not by assimilation, but by ingratiating themselves to their hosts -- especially the power structure -- while maintaining their cultural distinctiveness. They make themselves useful to the people who make the rules, so their differences are seen as exotic rather than offensive. Eventually they gain enough influence with the elites that they find themselves in danger, either at the hands of the people when things go wrong and they get blamed along with the rest of the elites, or at the hands of the elites who fear their growing power or need a scapegoat. If they're lucky, they just get kicked out, as Rome tried a few times before getting fed up in 70.

I don't see anything new here. The only question is, as Steve Sailer has been asking, whether they'll be able to recognize that their behavior has reached the point of doing them more harm than good again, and change it before it's too late this time. History isn't optimistic.

Blogger luagha June 06, 2015 9:53 AM  

"Why isn't there as much hostility towards Jews as there is towards Muslims? "

Muslim criminality is far more obvious than liberal communist Jewish criminality.

Rape your daughter is much easier to see than rape your country but you don't figure it out for twenty years.

Anonymous PhillipGeorge©2015 June 06, 2015 10:08 AM  

Israel supposedly has a bible and the nation supposedly has an unwritten un codified constitution which means, I suspect, their Supreme Court dances in a room of smoke and mirrors.

In saying this, their uncodified constitution is now identical to America's codified one: it means anything and everything according to whim and fashion and learned interpretation.

The Knesset should adopt one, and only one, imperative for survival: lead the world in worship. It is a biblical mandate, or that should read, god-date, and your last and only chance for survival.

Seeing smart people everywhere read these pages, let it now be said, it was written.

Blogger Zaklog the Great June 06, 2015 10:13 AM  

To be fair, since gays are somewhere between two and four percent of the population, how they are encouraged to deal with their sexual preferences cannot be a significant dysgenic influence (unless, for some reason I'm not aware of, they are more prevalent among Jews). Instead, the general discouragement from having children and/or many children is the real source of the problem.

Anonymous BigGaySteve June 06, 2015 10:18 AM  

" a Jewish man with abnormal inclinations would be heavily encouraged to resist them, get married"

I would say that jews are far more than their fair share of gays and lesbians if they are only 2-4% of the population. I always thought the problem was jewish women.

why isn't there as much hostility towards Jews as there is towards Muslims? Aren't they just as alien/harmful?

The moslems like blacks & gays are the tools used to hit people on the head with by jews, most can not look past the catspaw(noun 1. a person used to serve the purposes of another), to see who wields it. Few of the tools realize they are being played.

Blogger Cail Corishev June 06, 2015 10:24 AM  

"Why isn't there as much hostility towards Jews as there is towards Muslims? "

Because there's a difference, if mostly an emotional one, between the guy who wants to cut my head off and the guy who wants to import the "refugee" who wants to cut my head off. The latter has a better chance of claiming some plausible deniability, that he didn't really know it was going to happen.

And for what it's worth, you could replace "Jew" with "official of Catholic Charities" in that question, and the answer would be the same. Where it will get interesting, though, will be when people start to see the importer as a traitor doing it on purpose -- will the crime of intentionally importing murderers be seen as worse than the murders themselves? At some point, I suspect it will, and the tallest lampposts will be reserved for them.

Anonymous Dirtnapninja June 06, 2015 10:37 AM  

I have a theory that the Jews have evolved a kind of social preservation system that depends on offending their host population.

Jews are self defined as outsiders. Whenever times are peaceful for the jews, their community would splinter into feuding factions and large numbers of Jews would integrate and assimilate. Those communities that survived are the ones that aggravate their hosts just enough that the host populations would oppress the jews without driving them out or murdering them. This would encourage the unity of the jewish population and confirm their self belief as outsiders.

But what happens in a place like the anglo world, where jews live peacefully and have been unable to sufficiently annoy the host populations? Well,the Jews grow increasingly and openly oppositional. They have to..their self image as outsiders and inherent factionalism demands friction between them and others.

Anonymous BigGaySteve June 06, 2015 10:52 AM  

Gay jews fear Bibi Netanyahu more than they do savage moslems. I always thought that it was because they could flee to Israel if things got too bad in their host nation, but I have not really heard anything really anti gay related to Bibi. Gay jews certainly are not willing to give a good reason why. What is Bibi doing that incites such fear, because it would be good to be able to utilize that in the West?

AbuDhabi June 06, 2015 7:41 AM Some days, I learn something new about my own nation. This such a day.

Is your nation England or Poland? The CHORFs crying about the game Whitcher3 based on polish mythology think Poland is chock full of blacks. Why would someone want to play a game where your only choices for hair is black and eyes are brown?

"I'm woman enough to throw my beer in your face, are you man enough to slap me?"

Why do they never ask the good questions of me? "Officer I swear she asked me to backhand her, we have all these witnesses"

Blogger Tommy Hass June 06, 2015 11:09 AM  

"Removed pagan idols from the land? Well, hell No."

Even Jews aren't stupid enough to do that.

Anonymous Takin' a look June 06, 2015 11:17 AM  

+1

Blogger njartist June 06, 2015 11:19 AM  

@ 30. Marellus June 06, 2015 9:15 AM

Link Marellus. Link.

Blogger Blume June 06, 2015 11:21 AM  

It is violating the nuclear non proliferation treaty it signed.

Blogger Blume June 06, 2015 11:25 AM  

Why I approve of gassing every Muslim country on earth.

Blogger njartist June 06, 2015 11:30 AM  

A question that entered my mind in the past few months: It is said that the Jews were nearly fully assimilated (or the most assimilated) into German society pre WWI and WWII; therefore, I ask if the Jews were in similar positions of power and control as they are in the U.S.? And were they still in those positions after 1945, after Germany's defeat?

Blogger njartist June 06, 2015 11:32 AM  

@ 38. PhillipGeorge©2015 June 06, 2015 10:08 AM

Israel supposedly has a bible....

Judah has the Talmud: something else entirely.

Blogger Blume June 06, 2015 11:41 AM  

I would and mecca would glow for a thousand years.

OpenID simplytimothy June 06, 2015 11:44 AM  

Tabletmag--hmmm--might be interesting, I like keeping up with different ideas...hmmm...


What's this? Parody?

Marjorie Ingall
Raising Little Jewish Feminists
http://tabletmag.com/jewish-life-and-religion/189974/raising-jewish-feminists


Not parody.

Does not bookmark.

Blogger VD June 06, 2015 11:44 AM  

I ask if the Jews were in similar positions of power and control as they are in the U.S.? And were they still in those positions after 1945, after Germany's defeat?

Jews were even more economically dominant in Germany in the 1930s than they are in the USA today. As for politics, their influence was similarly disproportional given that they were only one percent of the German population.

"Jews played an important role in the first cabinet formed after the 1918 revolution (Hugo Hasse and Otto Landesberg), the Weimar Constitution was drafted by a Jew (Hugo Pruess), and Jews were conspicuously present in the abortive attempts to create radical revolutionary regimes, especially in Bavaria. Jews held major political posts, primarily in the leadership of the democratic and socialist parties. The most prominent Jewish Political figure was Walther Rathenau, who served first as minister for economic affairs and then as foreign minister."

They were not economically or politically significant in Germany after 1945.

Blogger njartist June 06, 2015 12:02 PM  

53. VD June 06, 2015 11:44 AM

Thank you.

So, when the International Jews called for a worldwide boycott of Germany in 1933, the native German stock witnessed the betrayal of Germany by a ethnic population that was a ruling power.

This is on top of the betrayal of Germany by the Jews internationally when the Balfour agreement occurred.

Given the anti-Gentile (really anti-Christian) Judeo-Bolshevik revolution in Russia, the Germans had every right to fear the Jews within their camp; if, as you write, " 'Jews played an important role in the first cabinet formed after the 1918 revolution (Hugo Hasse and Otto Landesberg), the Weimar Constitution was drafted by a Jew (Hugo Pruess), and Jews were conspicuously present in the abortive attempts to create radical revolutionary regimes, especially in Bavaria.' " We then have no knowledge or at least readily available knowledge as to how far along the German Jews along with their international allies were in converting Germany into the next Judeo-Bolshevik society: the aware Christians/Gentiles probably could have seen hte train coming.

Blogger Josh June 06, 2015 12:20 PM  

I wonder if there's a difference between the West Coast Jew and the East Coast Jew.

Compare Ari Gold to Woody Allen.

Anonymous FP June 06, 2015 12:26 PM  

Hah, how cliche can you get... from the raising a feminist link:

"I can’t recall ever not considering myself a feminist. When I was 9 and the only girl on a Little League team full of boys, my mom sewed a patch with a closed fist—the symbol of the Equal Rights Amendment (at the time facing Congress for ratification) onto my cap, causing some consternation among the team dads. I want to pass on to my daughters the same confident belief that my mom instilled in me—that women deserve equality and equal protection under the law."

Anonymous Harry June 06, 2015 12:27 PM  

Its just a return to human nature. It has nothing to do with how Jews behaved the past 50 years.

1) Jews have an average IQ of 115, among whites who average that IQ, the percentage that are left/liberal is similar or higher than Jews. There are quite a few prominent right wing Jewish thinkers, and among whites, the less Jews a white country has the MORE left/liberal it is. So it is obvious that Jewish leftism is just a subset of a much larger white leftism and that it is misleading to compare Jews to whites as a whole. The true comparison is to high IQ whites, where we see Jewish leftism as similar or better than white leftism.

2) American wars in the Mid East can only be seen to be on behalf of Israel if we ignore American wars and engagement in the rest of the world, like Vietnam, Latin America, and the huge military bases we have in Korea and Japan. Once seen in the larger context of American global behavior, American behavior in the Mid East appears as just one more leg of an American program that guides American actions across the globe. Only by artifically disconnecting American Mid East policy from total American policy and focusing on it in isolation can anyone believe it has anything to do with Israel.

So its clear, to any honest and rational person, that Israel and Jews have little to do with American Mid East policy. People who complain about the 3 billion Us aid to Israel do not mention the huge and vastly more extensive military assistance the US provides Japan, Korea, and even Taiwan, which involves the potential of US soldiers dying, as they did in Korea, but have never done and never will for Israel.

3) So, at the end of the day, anti-semitism, as always, has little to do with how Jews behave, just as anti-French feeling in Germany didn't, or anti English feeling in France didn't. People like to hate each other, Jews have always been hated by Christians, small differences matter, that's all it takes.

4) Of course, since few want to admit this, the less intelligent and more credulous try and find "reasons".

Blogger Danby June 06, 2015 12:43 PM  

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Anonymous Sheila June 06, 2015 12:47 PM  

Tommy Hass -
You know, I am actually predisposed to like the Turks. I worked with some marvelous, cultured, and warm people in the Turkish embassies in two foreign countries, I visited Turkey a number of times, and my husband and I spent our honeymoon there. You, however, seem determined to fulfill the stereotype of the "bloodthirsty Turk." Flayed and rolled in salt? "Oh my, look how edgy this loathsome little faggot is." Come now, this is not a rational response to someone with whom one disagrees - even violently disagrees. Surely you have some setting between putatively normal and full retard?

Re the Persians - again, I have known and worked with and for some lovely Iranian people. I tutored an Iranian woman in English and spent quite a bit of time with her family. While I have no desire to turn their home country to glass, I would still rather they return and live in their homeland, and not mine. Same for most of the Turks I meet in America. Diversity + proximity = War ( or, at the very least, familiarity breeds contempt).

Blogger Danby June 06, 2015 12:48 PM  

So its clear, to any honest and rational person, that Israel and Jews have little to do with American Mid East policy.

That is without a doubt, the most dishonest summation I've ever seen. It's not just a lie, it cannot even be intended to be believed. No-one, no-one on Earth is stupid enough to believe that.

3) So, at the end of the day, anti-semitism, as always, has little to do with how Jews behave, just as anti-French feeling in Germany didn't, or anti English feeling in France didn't. People like to hate each other, Jews have always been hated by Christians, small differences matter, that's all it takes.
4) Of course, since few want to admit this, the less intelligent and more credulous try and find "reasons".


Christians just hate us innocent Jews, They always hve. It's nothing we've ever done! Christians are just bad people! That's why we have to replace them and destroy their society!. It's all their fault!

Judaism, the Gamma of religions

Blogger Danby June 06, 2015 12:50 PM  

@Sheila,
Tommy was responding to someone saying his people, his Ethnos, should be murdered to the last man. Replying that a person that bloodthirsty should be flayed seems mild in comparison.

Blogger VD June 06, 2015 1:06 PM  

So its clear, to any honest and rational person, that Israel and Jews have little to do with American Mid East policy.

You're either lying or ludicrously wrong. While they don't dictate it, much less control it, they do influence it and attempt to take advantage of it. Indeed, Israel would be irresponsible and failing to act in its own self-interest if it did not.

And it is obvious that the neocons don't completely control US foreign policy or we would have bombed and invaded Iran already if they did. But brilliant Israelis like Dr. van Creveld would not be concerned about the consequences of Israeli and Jewish influence over US foreign policy if it did not exist.

Anonymous Harry June 06, 2015 1:06 PM  

1) Danby, I presented an accurate and intelligent explanation of how you will not understand US policy in the Mideast if you ignore the fact that the US is doing the exact same things on even a vaster scale in other parts of the world, and has for some time. If you ignore overall US policy, you might think the MidEast is a special case requiring special explanations. Once you are aware this is the kind of thing the US does everywhere, and has been for a long time, you realize otherwise.

Only unintelligent people cannot see this.

2) Yes, Christians are bad people. Jews are bad people. Atheists are bad people. Muslims are bad people. The human race is a pretty stinky beast - I think it was Mark Twain who said when asked if he hates a certain race, all he needs to know is if its a human being and he cannot possibly think worse of him.

Your belief that humans are basically good who only hate when they have good reason to do so is the naive, unintelligent persons understanding of human nature. It won't explain much of history for you.

OpenID simplytimothy June 06, 2015 1:09 PM  

4) Of course, since few want to admit this, the less intelligent and more credulous try and find "reasons".

Summarizing Harry, we get "Since Harry's statements are correct, detractors are less intelligent and credulous, their reasoning, mere 'reasoning'".

Where does one start with this drivel?


Blogger VD June 06, 2015 1:14 PM  

If you ignore overall US policy, you might think the MidEast is a special case requiring special explanations. Once you are aware this is the kind of thing the US does everywhere, and has been for a long time, you realize otherwise.

This is a reasonable point. But it is not reasonable or intelligent, to ignore the existence of AIPAC, of the neocons, or of the warnings from numerous Jews and Israelis.

Surely you understand that most people here oppose the American interventions and occupations in the Middle East and everywhere else from Korea to Ukraine.

Blogger Josh June 06, 2015 1:30 PM  

People who complain about the 3 billion Us aid to Israel do not mention the huge and vastly more extensive military assistance the US provides Japan, Korea, and even Taiwan, which involves the potential of US soldiers dying, as they did in Korea, but have never done and never will for Israel.

That's absurd. People who oppose foreign aid tend to oppose all foreign aid.

Anonymous Samuel Scott June 06, 2015 1:31 PM  

PhillipGeorge©2015

Israel supposedly has a bible and the nation supposedly has an unwritten un codified constitution which means, I suspect, their Supreme Court dances in a room of smoke and mirrors.

In saying this, their uncodified constitution is now identical to America's codified one: it means anything and everything according to whim and fashion and learned interpretation.


OK, time for some factual clarifications.

1. Israel does not "have a Bible" in the sense that I think you mean (as far as a basis of the government). Israel as a state was founded as a Jewish state based on ethnicity, not religion. Almost all of Israel's founders were secular Jews. Sure, the Bible informs some government policy -- public transportation does not run on Shabbat, for example -- but Israel is in no way a theocracy.

2. After the state was founded, the first government enacted a set of "Basic Laws" that was meant to serve as an interim constitution until it was written. Well, it still has yet to be written. In the ensuing decades, the Supreme Court took it upon itself to treat the basic laws as a constitution and has controversially "vetoed" parliament laws that it views as going against the Basic Laws.

I say it is "controversial" because the Basic Laws do not explicitly give the Supreme Court that power. Sometimes the government agrees not to implement "voided" laws -- and sometimes it drags things out and leaves it limbo for years.

3. The issue comes down to political and legal philosophy. Should the people's parliament have absolute sovereignty and have the ability to do whatever it wants? Or should an independent court system exist that has the ability to veto actions of a parliament? The UK has the former; the US has the latter.

4. The new Israeli government's Justice Minister comes from a party that is to the right of the Likud and is vocal opponent of what she calls "judicial overreach." She wants to limit the ability of the court to veto parliament laws. Who knows what will happen -- it would probably take an act of parliament (a majority vote) to clarify the issue in the Basic Laws.

Blogger Chris Mallory June 06, 2015 1:33 PM  

"The Knesset should adopt one, and only one, imperative for survival: lead the world in worship"

The only way to worship God is through the Holy Spirit. The only way to have the Holy Spirit is to accept the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal saviour. So expecting a group that explicitly rejects the Lord to lead worship of God is a fool's errand.

Anonymous Samuel Scott June 06, 2015 1:34 PM  

PhillipGeorge©2015

Rabbinical Jews don't understand Christianity's claims; equals, don't believe their own scriptures.


Educated Jews -- except for ultra-Orthodox Jews -- certainly understand and likely have studied Christianity objectively. We just believe that you're interpreting our book incorrectly.

/ no offense, just saying

Blogger njartist June 06, 2015 1:47 PM  

@ 69. Samuel Scott June 06, 2015 1:34 PM
Those who hate Jesus Christ hate the Father: God; such will not view; never view, Christianity as either true or the correct fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy or the Law and Ordinances.

Anonymous Samuel Scott June 06, 2015 1:50 PM  

Those who hate Jesus Christ hate the Father: God; such will not view; never view, Christianity as either true or the correct fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy or the Law and Ordinances.

Our opinions are based on premises that conflict, and I doubt either one of us will change -- so we should just agree to disagree.

Anonymous Jack Amok June 06, 2015 1:56 PM  

have a theory that the Jews have evolved a kind of social preservation system that depends on offending their host population.

Jews are self defined as outsiders...Those communities that survived are the ones that aggravate their hosts just enough that the host populations would oppress the jews without driving them out or murdering them...their self image as outsiders and inherent factionalism demands friction between them and others.


I think you're onto something, though I'd put a slight twist on it. Any community that insists on retaining its cultural distinctiveness while a minority within a larger polity is going to create some friction. If that community acquires any significant wealth or power and still refuses to assimilate, it's going to cause significant friction. The Irish stuck together when they first immigrated to the US, but as the friction started to grow, they assimilated into the larger culture, and the friction disappeared.

It would be fairly easy for Jews to assimilate on an individual level. In fact, to a large degree, I think many successful Jews try to. But there remains a very loud group of Jews insisting on a continued Jewish identity and acting in overtly obnoxious says, such as lecturing their hosts about how oppressed they are, even as other Jews are visible in the upper echelons of wealth and power. By making their hosts irritated at them, maybe they are forcing their most successful individuals to remain behind and pull them along.

OTOH, any communities of Jews who did not exhibit this behavior would have simply merged with the host population and disappeared as an identifiable community (the way the Irish have in the US outside of South Boston).

Anonymous AbuDhabi June 06, 2015 1:58 PM  

BigGaySteve:
>>Is your nation England or Poland? The CHORFs crying about the game Whitcher3 based on polish mythology think Poland is chock full of blacks. Why would someone want to play a game where your only choices for hair is black and eyes are brown?

POLAN STRONK.

Witcher is based on Polish mythology? News to me. I read the books, and there's precious little of slavic paganism, etc. in there. So far as I know, Sapkowski made the lore up, stealing liberally from all over the place. I don't know about the games, but AFAIK, they stuck fairly close to the look and feel of the setting.

If you want something that draws on real-world mythology and suchlike, you want the Lux Perpetua series by the same author.

Anonymous Ashkie June 06, 2015 2:16 PM  

Cohen's paranoia has most definitely gotten the best of him. Though smaller, the American Jewish community has never been more embraced in the U.S.

This is partly due to, as VD points out, the U.S. Being far less ethnocentric. Additionally, the Tribe remains extraordinarily loyal, hard working and committed Americans.

Shalom!!

Anonymous Marellus June 06, 2015 2:25 PM  

@njartist,

The source is a man by the moniker of Lukaas van Hout. Here is some other prophecies/messages. You can find him on facebook at a group called 'Die stem van die Boere mense aan die wêreld' (copy and paste)

Blogger VD June 06, 2015 2:40 PM  

Additionally, the Tribe remains extraordinarily loyal, hard working and committed Americans.

Enjoyed the program, did you? Seriously, tell your bosses not to send the junior varsity. You haven't even graduated from college, and you're not equipped to handle it here.

Anonymous Ashkie June 06, 2015 2:50 PM  

VD

When the response is no response, I know an honest response would be to confirm.

Either way lets just say, you can't understand the subject matter simply because you have no experience with the American Jewish community outside your observed irrational prejudice.

Blogger Nobody June 06, 2015 3:05 PM  

The Jews have always been a distinct entity throughout their history. A peculiar people to other nations. Their fault or not, they have always been kicked around to spite their peculiarity. You have thousands of years of Jews being told that they are a special peoples, peculiar and distinct to all other nations. Generation after generation. Right or wrong, they have developed a knack for survival. Especially in light of the fact that they wondered the earth for 19 hundred years Stateless. It's a small club, and you ain't in it. You can call them conniving, weaseling manipulators, but right or wrong, it is a trait to their survival.

Blogger Thordaddy June 06, 2015 3:08 PM  

For the Jew qua Jew, i.e., a Chosen One, there is no end to the Diaspora because it is part of one's very nature. What this Jew is saying is that he and other Jews went to find home AND ONLY SPREAD a diasporic nature amongst the populace. So these Jews are not suffering from their own success. They are simply wallowing in the outcome of their dominant nature. Now, we are ALL on the brink of annihilation. That's Equality, man!

Blogger njartist June 06, 2015 3:14 PM  

@ 75. Marellus June 06, 2015 2:25 PM
Thank you. I have found a few prophets in this country:
Watchman 2009
Lame Cherry
United States Prophecy
Chuck Youngbrandt
Raymond Aguilera

Blogger njartist June 06, 2015 3:17 PM  

@ 77. Ashkie June 06, 2015 2:50 PM

Either way lets just say, you can't understand the subject matter simply because you have no experience with the American Jewish community outside your observed irrational prejudice.

That comment establishes a general principle which goes both ways: Verily, if you are forever a stranger to us; then, we are forever strangers to you.

Anonymous John June 06, 2015 3:17 PM  

What were Ted Kennedy's motivations in setting this whole horror show in motion?

Same as Obama's today.

More Democrat voters who need gimmedats.

Weakened America, weakened Republican party, weakened conservatism, and weakened traditionalism.


I think Obama's motivations are first and foremost racial. He hates and resents Whites. His motivation has been to demographically break White hegemony as quickly and early as he can. I think he would prefer to bring in Africans, but will settle for Mexicans and Central Americans in the near term to hasten White demise. That was the "change you can believe in" he always sought.

More gimmedats are of course essentaial to Democrat power, just not his primary motive.

Blogger Danby June 06, 2015 3:25 PM  

1) Danby, I presented an accurate and intelligent explanation of how you will not understand US policy in the Mideast if you ignore the fact that the US is doing the exact same things on even a vaster scale in other parts of the world, and has for some time.

You did nothing of the kind.

If you ignore overall US policy, you might think the MidEast is a special case requiring special explanations. Once you are aware this is the kind of thing the US does everywhere, and has been for a long time, you realize otherwise.

Over the last,say 45 years, how many shooting wars has the US gotten directly involved in?
How many were not in the Middle East?
In how many of the wars we've been involved in, either directly or indirectly, were we not killing people sworn to the destruction of Israel?
But HEY!, Korea's just the same!

Only unintelligent people cannot see this.

Again with the accusations of stupidity. You really need to knock that off, gay Jew lackwit. Your 120 IQ doesn't even make the grade around here. You're back of the short bus material.

2) Yes, Christians are bad people. Jews are bad people. Atheists are bad people. Muslims are bad people.

And this comports with your argument that anti-Semitism is all the fault of those bad Christians, not the Jews, who dindu nuffin, in exactly what way? Jews are bad people, but they never act in concert or in specifically tribal ways that exploit and tear down the cultures of other people?

Your belief that humans are basically good who only hate when they have good reason to do so is the naive, unintelligent persons understanding of human nature. It won't explain much of history for you.

This is so wrong as to to be laughable. Stop assigning thoughts and meanings to other peoples words, you nit. It's stupid and worse, it's an error.

Honest to God, were you here in the room with me I would punch you in the head. You're sneering, mincing, prancing halfwit, so convinced of your own superiority that you toss out summary assertions as if they were facts and try to call anyone who disagrees with you stupid.

Dance some more faggot.

Blogger njartist June 06, 2015 3:29 PM  

@ 79. Thordaddy June 06, 2015 3:08 PM

One must really establish the identity of the Jew: it is a serious mistake to consider them to be the ancient Hebrews or Israelites: modern Jewry is not Judah; it contains the Edomites, the Ashkenazim/Khazars (non-Semites make up the majority of the "Jewish" population), and the mixture of nations that came back with them from Babylon. Judaism is not Hebrewism; it is Babylonian: this is why Jesus Christ was opposed to it.

The major portion of the House of Judah is mixed in with the House of Israel the so-called lost tribes: the "lost" Israelites are now awakening to whom they are.

OpenID simplytimothy June 06, 2015 3:34 PM  

Either way lets just say, you can't understand the subject matter simply because you have no experience with the American Jewish community outside your observed irrational prejudice.

No, let's not say that.

Let's look at this principle, shall we?

"Either way lets just say, you can't understand the subject matter simply because you have no experience with the ___"


A. Black community
B. Social Justice Warriors
C. Southern Gun Culture
D. Indian (Feather, not dot)

Put A,B,C,D in your statement of principle, grasp the absurdity of what you are saying, admit you are wrong, then apologize.









Anonymous Ashkie June 06, 2015 3:44 PM  

Timothy,
Vox has no experience with the tribe, yet he assigns motive based on what he has read about a few. But he can't tell us the political, cultural or historical differences between conservative or reformed, between NY, Texas or California Jews, between cultural and religious Jews.

He has no experience. He is a pretender who relies on Feeeeelings.

It's why his post on this subject really makes us laugh, then cringe.

OpenID simplytimothy June 06, 2015 3:59 PM  

Vox has no experience with the tribe, yet he assigns motive based on what he has read about a few.

This is laughable. Who in America does not have experience with "the tribe"?
Have you heard of "The Law of Large Numbers"? Its a useful tool for measuring things. Derbyshire employed it in the piece that got him fired at NRO.

The iSteve on Unz link at the top right is a good source for the story of the preponderance of "the tribe" in popular media. Since popular media permeates America we have experience with "The tribe"

Given the nature of that media, we can make deductions about the character of the people involved.
Finance? check.
Foreign affairs? check.
History? check.

Do you really think your bleating will convince me? Why do you persist in making fool of yourself.









Anonymous Samuel Scott June 06, 2015 4:00 PM  

Vox does not need any defending on this issue -- but I'll respond because I'm an Israeli Jew. Listen, your comments are vague and you provide no evidence to support your general assertions. You'd lose any rhetorical argument in two minutes.

(Now, this is not to say that I agree with all the commenters. Not. At. All. Too many of them have an unhealthy obsession with Jews and what they think we do.)

But here's Vox's overall point:

אין לכם ארץ אחרת

Can you even read that without Google Translate? If not, it's a shame that you cannot read your own language. It's a line from a traditional Israeli folk song -- "I have no other country" modified for the plural.

It would be best for all Jews to make aliyah. The longer Jews stay in Europe and elsewhere, the worse it's going to be -- don't stick your head in the Diaspora sand and say, "This too shall pass." Come home.

Yes, new immigrants here have it tough. It's hard to learn a new language. It takes a few years to find a job that pays decently. But you're not moving here for you -- you're moving here so that your grandchildren will live in their own country and create their own destiny.

One point: The non-Orthodox population in the US has an intermarriage rate of more than 70%. Do you want your grandchildren to be Jews?

Blogger David-093 June 06, 2015 4:40 PM  

"We just believe that you're interpreting our book incorrectly."

It's not a question of interpreting the book correctly or incorrectly, it's whether or not Jesus returned from the dead. If He did, then we're right. If He did not, then we're wrong. The book is almost irrelevant in light of that.

Blogger David-093 June 06, 2015 4:42 PM  

"Though smaller, the American Jewish community has never been more embraced in the U.S. "

You're painfully, absurdly naive.

Blogger VD June 06, 2015 4:54 PM  


Either way lets just say, you can't understand the subject matter simply because you have no experience with the American Jewish community outside your observed irrational prejudice.


The ironic thing is that you apparently know so little about how the Jewish community operates in America that you didn't even understand the reference I made. Which reference alone is sufficient to falsify your claim.

Anonymous Takin' a look June 06, 2015 5:57 PM  

(Now, this is not to say that I agree with all the commenters. Not. At. All. Too many of them have an unhealthy obsession with Jews and what they think we do.)

Old Southron Idiom: Bless your heart.

Seriously, your people who make up an incredibly tiny percentage of the world population, yet had and continue to have enormously outsized influence over ostensibly foreign nations across the world from Chile to China and we are not supposed to notice?!?!

Oh, I see, "unhealthy obsession"="We don't like it when the Goy start catching on"

FWIW. I hope the Israel project is successful and all you Jews make Aliyah and leave the rest of us alone. Should that fail, there is always Birobizhan or perhaps the Tri-Borders in South America.

Blogger Nobody June 06, 2015 6:15 PM  

Samuel Scott - Will you pray for the gentiles as we pray for the Jews?

Blogger dfordoom June 06, 2015 6:18 PM  

As for Iran, we shouldn't hit it (just) for Israel. But not with a muppet in office. Won't happen, but should quash the idea of people living there for a couple of centuries, and from making nukes to toy with the world for longer, just to make a few points. No war needed. Glass.

Why not turn France and Britain into glass as well? They both have nukes. And maybe Israel too. Why not annihilate every country with nukes. Except the USA of course. It's OK for the US to have nukes.

I have no idea why the US is so widely disliked. Do you?

Anonymous Marellus June 06, 2015 7:12 PM  

@njartist,

My thanks for those links :-)

Vox,

Read this,

When I was in London in the Spring of 1938 I went one day to see a high official in Whitehall. As I arrived half an hour too soon I went into a teashop, the only thing you can do in London when you arrive anywhere half an hour too soon, and ordered a cup of the wet, brown and warm stuff which they call coffee, and then I heard a voice call 'Reed' and turned round, and corpulent as ever, in a corner, was my acquaintance whom we will call Blumenlevy.

I knew him first in Berlin, some years before Hitler came to power. Then he was well-to-do and important, and nobody, least of all himself, seemed to recall he was not a German. He was part of Berlin and looked likely to end his days there. But then came Hitler, and Blumenlevy moved to Vienna and suddenly he was Austrian-born and a great Austrian patriot and was all for defending Austrian independence to the last drop of anybody else's blood and fervently admired Mussolini, a dictator, true, but not then an anti-Semitic one, because he had mobilized troops on the Brenner when Dollfuss was murdered and had declared he would not tolerate the rape of Austria. 'Why do you English quarrel with this great man?' Blumenlevy asked me. 'It is madness.'

But then Mussolini became Hitler's friend and Blumenlevy, all at once, was a red-hot Austrian monarchist and was for bringing young Otto back to Vienna forthwith, for only so could Austrian patriots count on the continued independence of Austria.

A few days before Hitler marched into Austria, and sent his telegram to Rome, 'Mussolini, I shall never forget what you have done for me to-day', I ran into Blumenlevy in a coffee house. He had been to see an Austrian monarchist leader, A, he said, and had urged him to arm the monarchists, but A was a feeble fellow and hadn't felt equal to it. 'I would do it,' said Blumenlevy, 'Ich bin ein Draufgänger - I'm a stick-at-nothing chap.'

I looked at him, fat, wheezy, and aged. Oh yeah, I thought.

Anonymous Cheech And Chong Found God June 06, 2015 7:13 PM  

“The only way to worship God is through the Holy Spirit.”

The only way to worship God is through one’s faith, whatever that faith may be to them.


“Honest to God, were you here in the room with me I would punch you in the head.”

First, is not passive-aggressive behavior the conduct of rabbits? Second, should you be speaking in this manner as a Christian, you are observably “acting in concert and in specifically tribal ways that exploit and tear down the cultures of other people.”

Blogger Danby June 06, 2015 7:24 PM  

Shut up Scoobius,

Blogger J.M. June 06, 2015 7:52 PM  

The major portion of the House of Judah is mixed in with the House of Israel the so-called lost tribes: the "lost" Israelites are now awakening to whom they are.

Another ignorant who thinks Anglo Saxon people are the real Jewish people. Last time I checked Anglo-saxon people were from Europe, from the Land now known as Germany and some from other regions like Denmark and Netherlands. Sorry but you are European (if you are of English descent) albeit with uglier women than the average for the Continent.

Blogger Blume June 06, 2015 7:55 PM  

No, just supposedly the new one.

Anonymous Anonymous June 06, 2015 8:26 PM  

What is the U.S. teaching the world about non proliferation though? Get nukes ala north Korea, the U.S. leaves you alone. Give us your plans for nukes and suck up to the U.S. and the Secretary of state cackles as your body is dragged through the street..

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler June 06, 2015 8:42 PM  

Mr. Peter Frost at his blog Evo and Proud has a post on how science fiction thirty years ago began foretelling the death of White culture. His conclusion:

Imagined reality often foretells the real thing—not because the imaginers have a special knack for prediction, but because they end up playing an active role in shaping the future. The death of White America was already being imagined over three decades ago by people who, ultimately, had become reconciled to that fate and even looked forward to it. Moreover, this endgame seems to have struck a responsive chord among the public. As Dyer (2000) argues, "the death of whiteness is, as far as white identity goes, the cultural dominant of our times, that we really do feel we're played out."

You can read the rest here: Imagining Death.

Anonymous PhillipGeorge©2015 June 06, 2015 9:39 PM  

explicitly rejects the Lord

Chris Mallory, did you mean, Lord or LORD, adonai or YHWH.

Let's presume Samuel believes in YHWH, Ha Shem and still doesn't accept YahoShua, it doesn't abrogate Tanakh prophetic statements that the whole world will go up to Jerusalem to worship.

All Jews have to do is make it happen; faith in YHWH is still faith in YHWH. David's desire was to simply build a house.

Ethnicity and religion to a Jew is one and the same. If my great grandfather is Moses, my religious heritage and ethnicity are the same. Unbelief doesn't cancel heritage. Build a house for God. What could be simpler than that. Pray, take Ezekiel's blue prints, raise a mountain called Zion, obliterate the temple mount, win WW3, and invite every nation to worship with you.

there, I could do it with my eyes shut.

Anonymous Athor Pel June 06, 2015 9:54 PM  

"98. J.M. June 06, 2015 7:52 PM

The major portion of the House of Judah is mixed in with the House of Israel the so-called lost tribes: the "lost" Israelites are now awakening to whom they are.

Another ignorant who thinks Anglo Saxon people are the real Jewish people. Last time I checked Anglo-saxon people were from Europe, from the Land now known as Germany and some from other regions like Denmark and Netherlands. Sorry but you are European (if you are of English descent) albeit with uglier women than the average for the Continent.
"



Where do you think the german tribes came from. They didn't pop out of the ground in some Bavarian forest. They came from the east, all of them.

We know the tribes of Israel were moved to other places inside the Assyrian empire. From there we have evidence after some generations they moved again, and again. Heck, there's evidence the Assyrians themselves ended up in Germany after their defeat.

I've also heard of some groups of Hebrews leaving Egypt before Moses led the exodus and they went north into Europe.

There is linguistic evidence that the Welsh language is derived from Hebrew.


There's evidence that it's more than just the Anglo-Saxons, it's a veritable heap of tribes that look to be descended from Hebrews. It's most of Europe which means it's also America.



Anonymous PhillipGeorge©2015 June 06, 2015 10:06 PM  

It is the job of every Christian to teach Jews to be Jewish/ to help them be Jewish - seeing Yahoshuah will come in His timing.

Blogger njartist June 06, 2015 10:17 PM  

@ 98. J.M. June 06, 2015 7:52 PM
You are ignorant. Do the bloody research.
Here, start with this: the House of Judah and the House of Israel are two separate nations; then move onto looking up the history of the migrations of Israel after they were taken by the Assyrians.

But you're not going to do any of that: you're going to sit on your ass, remain ignorant, and and heap insults on the knowledgeable.

Blogger Thordaddy June 07, 2015 2:00 AM  

njartist...

That's exactly the problem... A diasporic nature abhors a particular identity ABOVE the diasporic identity.

The Jew qua Jew is an anti-Supremacist in general and an anti-white Supremacist in particular. And it is simply irrelevant if said Jew is orthodox or secular or radical leftist... Irrelevant if said Jew is a "Chosen One" or an Ashkenazi. The identity of the Jew is anti-Supremacist of diasporic nature. Ergo, archetype ethnic self-annihilator.

Blogger Thordaddy June 07, 2015 2:32 AM  

njartist...

No REAL Jew hates whites who hate niggers and black people. And niggers and black people know this. It's just silly to believe otherwise. But there are many unspoken truces between the various liberationist movements with each representing a different regress towards what is ultimately perceived as raw freedom. So the Jews regress ethnically, the blacks regress racially, the homodyke regresses sexually, the jihadist regresses religiously, the migger regresses civilizationally and so and so forth.

BUT...

The Jews ARE THE "masters" of perpetuating these various self-annihilating collectives and high IQ nerds have done their dirty deeds for a shiny penny... Or two.

Anonymous Joe (VFM #330) June 07, 2015 11:29 AM  

Re: 52. simplytimothy...

Sadly not a parody. She wants to raise her children in her religion. Which is Feminism, of course, not Judaism. You can tell because whenever they conflict, guess which one she chooses? You might also note her lack of engagement with Judaism anywhere in the article, except as a casual self-identifier; contrast with feminism and its core doctrines. But it isn't socially done to declare feminism as one's religion (yet), and Judaism isn't any better than Christianity re: defenses against entryism. Even the standard Orthodox are weaker than one might imagine, though some Orthodox sects do better than others.

On the other hand, this was interesting...

http://tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/books/99711/the-end-of-the-jewish-left

"In his speech, and in his new book In God’s Shadow: Politics and the Hebrew Bible, Walzer ["one of the leading theorists of mainstream left-liberalism for decades"] offers a contrary vision of traditional Judaism, which he argues “offers precious little support to left politics”—a truth that he recognized would surprise those who, like himself, “grew up believing that Judaism and socialism were pretty much the same thing.” If a leftist political message cannot readily be found in the traditions of Judaism, it follows that the explosion of Jewish leftism in the late 19th century was actually a rupture with Jewish history, and potentially a traumatic one.... If this represents a kind of retrenchment on the part of the left, it is partly because the Jewish left has lost any certainty that the future is on its side.... More difficult to accept is the idea that the past, too, no longer belongs to the Left—that its own history is no longer a source of pride but of doubt and even shame."

Test for the ilk... think structurally/ strategically. What is the key sentence in the above quote?

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Blogger J.M. June 07, 2015 7:31 PM  

@Athor Pel

Where do you think the german tribes came from. They didn't pop out of the ground in some Bavarian forest. They came from the east, all of them.

We know the tribes of Israel were moved to other places inside the Assyrian empire. From there we have evidence after some generations they moved again, and again. Heck, there's evidence the Assyrians themselves ended up in Germany after their defeat.


Historical evidence (as well as cultural patterns) seem to contradict you. If you were right, our languages would share similar traits with Hebrew and Arabic, showing common origins, the way even English can trace its roots to the Old English and the Old Norse. Today in Europe only Maltese can be traced back to the Semitic family. Even Genetic evidence is not with you. It seems the people that can be identified as Assyrians (people of middle Eastern descent that live in the Areas that used to be the Assyrian empire) do not share some genes that are identifiable in Europeans.

In reference to Welsh, your comment sparked my curiosity, however in many sources, Welsh is identified as an Indoeuropean language, not related to Hebrew or Arabic.
http://www.cs.ox.ac.uk/people/geraint.jones/rhydychen.org/about.welsh/#dialect
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cymru/cymraeg/yriaith/tudalen/welsh.shtml

In base of the Evidence one can conclude the Hebrews, at least the classical ones didn´t migrate to Europe en masse and found anything. besides Greek chronicles tell of the existence of Barbarians to the North, centuries before Christ. Yes Germanic peoples didn´t pop up from the Earth, most likely are original from the Caucasus region (in a migration that most likely took place thousands of years well before the hebrew exile), not from the middle east.

Anonymous Heaviside June 07, 2015 10:33 PM  

>American wars in the Mid East can only be seen to be on behalf of Israel if we ignore American wars and engagement in the rest of the world, like Vietnam, Latin America, and the huge military bases we have in Korea and Japan. Once seen in the larger context of American global behavior, American behavior in the Mid East appears as just one more leg of an American program that guides American actions across the globe. Only by artifically disconnecting American Mid East policy from total American policy and focusing on it in isolation can anyone believe it has anything to do with Israel.

>So its clear, to any honest and rational person, that Israel and Jews have little to do with American Mid East policy. People who complain about the 3 billion Us aid to Israel do not mention the huge and vastly more extensive military assistance the US provides Japan, Korea, and even Taiwan, which involves the potential of US soldiers dying, as they did in Korea, but have never done and never will for Israel.

The U.S. supports Japan and its puppets for entirely different reasons than it supports Israel.

Blogger Thordaddy June 09, 2015 12:57 AM  

Who can argue that the nature of the Jew --whether orthodox, ethnic or leftist -- is anti-white Supremacy?

Anti-white Supremacy is the sole, determining identity of all Jews as Jews.

Blogger Matamoros June 10, 2015 4:01 PM  

Student in Blue: The comment on Anglo-Saxon America makes me wonder about Jewish numbers in Europe pre-WW2. Not sure where I'd find those numbers however

Jewish World Almanac. Here are two links from googling:

https://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2012/11/08/the-holocaust-6-million-lie-population-of-jews-1938-15-748-million-1948-15-753-million/

http://thisiszionism.blogspot.com/2008/03/almanacks-never-lie-jews-do.html

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