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Wednesday, July 15, 2015

America is the New Carthage

Americans have long considered themselves a nation blessed by God, a New Rome, a city on a hill, but as is increasingly evident, it is now a nation upon which God has turned His back and is permitting to stew in the full fruits of its own evil. And the disgusting revelation that Planned Parenthood is not only murdering America's children on an industrial scale, but harvesting them in much the same way the Nazis harvested their victims, is sufficient to prove that America is not the New Rome it once fancied itself, but rather, the New Carthage:
The undercover journalist who videotaped a Planned Parenthood senior medical officer talking about how to buy and sell fetal body parts derived from aborted babies says Planned Parenthood is lying in their response to his video.

Planned Parenthood said Tuesday that it does not make money from selling fetal body parts to companies like StemExpress, and any revenues received are related strictly to expenses.

David Daleiden of the Center for Medical Progress said the abortion provider is lying: “Planned Parenthood makes two key admissions in their statement today; first, that aborted fetal parts are harvested at their clinics, and second, that money is exchanged in connection with this.”

He also says Planned Parenthood is lying by insisting it gets “proper consent” from its patients,” and “Planned Parenthood does not make money off the body parts.”
It's a little strange that the news Planned Parenthood is making an additional profit from the corpses of its victims should be so upsetting to Americans when so many of them are fine with the corporation profiting from the simple act of murder, but I suppose that shows the conscience of the nation is merely numbed, not entirely dead.

Matt Walsh put it well: "I want to thank everyone who defended Planned Parenthood today. I now know to never take any of your opinions seriously ever again."


In any event, understand that America, like many an evil and decadent empire before it, is long overdue for a cleansing. Like it or not, the social conservatives were right, and the slippery slope they predicted, at which so many scoffed, appears to have been considerably understated.

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Anonymous Conservative July 15, 2015 5:57 AM  

Vote Scott Walker.

Anonymous Stilicho July 15, 2015 6:00 AM  

Mene Mene tekel... ah hell, y'all know how this goes. "Any revenue recieved"...Yep, they're making money from it, they're just trying to claim that it isn't very profitable.

Anonymous Stilicho July 15, 2015 6:03 AM  

How many did the Nazis murder in the camps? Planned Parenthood has a higher body count and less justification.

Blogger Shimshon July 15, 2015 6:07 AM  

Unfortunately, social conservatives are also subject to MPAI.

I can understand falling for Bush 2000. Eight years of Clinton. A "humble" foreign policy. And all that. But by 2004, they ran out of excuses, although I could understand (a lot less) why they stuck with the Republican incumbent. But 2008 and McCain or 2012 and Romney?! They're idiots, and losers.

I haven't stepped foot in the US in over 10 years, but if or when I do next, I imagine I would still hear the same "all we need is a Republican POTUS to nominate 'good' SCOTUS justices and all will be good" (and a Republican Congress) rationalizations. And the usual dissing of Ron Paul.

OpenID simplytimothy July 15, 2015 6:15 AM  

They discussed it while drinking wine http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/07/14/oh-my-god-national-planned-parenthood-director-caught-on-tape-trafficking-in-baby-parts/.

To me, booze is a celebration of what is good--wine at table, beer at a bar, jack out of the bottle while riding a four-wheeler on a moon lit night with a pack of dogs tagging along--make the heart glad.

When I saw that young woman, in a casual sun-dress , with wine about, I had to leave the page. I did not bother to watch the video.

These are not my people; these are not Americans.

God will evict them from our land. He is moving now and has been for some time. There is open talk of civil war and it is increasingly mainstream.

The reason is that God is sifting men and making the choices what they have always been and people are making their choices.








Anonymous Stg58 / Animal Mother #225 July 15, 2015 6:48 AM  

What kind of reaction can a man have to learning this? Especially if you have a month old son yourself? My only reaction could be to shower the PP people with blessings, kindness, good wishes, Advice of many grades, etc.

Blogger Mint July 15, 2015 6:49 AM  

This is one of baffling things Americans (or westerners) do. They will defend animal's right and condemn people who eat dog as the worst type human can be for example but baby's life is disposable. Based on feelings! When life is no longer sacred.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 15, 2015 6:50 AM  

The Left is handing over the moral level of war, the Right refuses, hell a good many conservatives think the NYTs truly is the voice of authority.

This just my opinion I think the people at the NYTs should be given human flying lessons.

Blogger Sherwood family July 15, 2015 6:53 AM  

People of America, behold your gods: Baal, Mammon, and Moloch! How many are left who have not bowed the knee to one of these?

Anonymous Mike M. (Minion #315) July 15, 2015 6:57 AM  

I don't know whether to pray for mercy, or for the opportunity to be part of the chastising force.

Lord, let Thy wisdom prevail and Thy will be done.

Anonymous Educated and informed July 15, 2015 6:57 AM  

This has everything to do with stigmatizing abortion. Restricting abortion. Denying access to low-income and minority women.

Anonymous Geoff July 15, 2015 7:01 AM  

But saying planned parenthood does evil or has done evil before might hurt people's feelings. It is better and wiser to simply ignore this so that nobody gets feelings shamed.

Blogger A_R July 15, 2015 7:02 AM  

I walked thru Bergen-Belson, and the evil can be felt. No one can truly grasp the horrors and inhumanity that transpired in these hells, but we also have failed to heed the lessons. We can lay words to paper, errect monuments, and even hallow the ground to the memories of the fallen, but cannot array the scope of the depravity and the works of evil.

It now seems that our tax money funds version 2.0.

Patton marched the local Germans (at gunpoint, no doubt) thru the portals of Dachau, to the ringing chorus of "we had no idea this was happening!" Many still died after liberation, due to their weakened states. The damage done was too great.

All that Evil needs to succeed is for good men to cast their gaze away and do nothing - paraphrasing Mr. Burke

Anonymous Theists B. Dull July 15, 2015 7:04 AM  

Is this an alternate universe where tissue donation doesn't exist?
It exists, is entirely legal, and advances science.

Blogger Sherwood family July 15, 2015 7:10 AM  

People once enlightened by the Spirit of God with knowledge pertaining to righteousness who then fall away into sin and transgression become more hardened and worse than had they never known these things.

Blogger Tommy Hass July 15, 2015 7:18 AM  

Is it murder when you kill a human THAT undeveloped?

I find abortion distasteful too, but I would hesitate a lot to call it "murder".

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 15, 2015 7:20 AM  

Allowing passive/aggressive white girls moral authority is the under lying problem, we used to protect them now we let them direct our lives, and that is not working out too well.

America is the Jim Jones cult writ large, one of Jones tactical methods was called the "Crazy Nigger" where literally he commanded his Africans to act crazy to intimidate the white libs he needed to dominate, now everyone in the D party has taken up the "Crazy Nigger" (Jones himself called it that).

The next big target is the Israeli supporters in the D party if they open their mouths in defiance of The One.

Anonymous Stg58 / Animal Mother #225 July 15, 2015 7:21 AM  

Tommy,

Yes, it is murder. What the fuck is wrong with you?

Blogger Chris Mallory July 15, 2015 7:24 AM  

"I find abortion distasteful too, but I would hesitate a lot to call it "murder"."

That fits with the Eastern mindset that was bred into your bones. Creatures of the East, and that includes Turks and Israelis, do not value human like like the Men of the West do.

Anonymous 334 July 15, 2015 7:35 AM  

Is it murder when you kill a human THAT undeveloped?

You just used the word "human". That's the answer right there.

Blogger Edd Jobs July 15, 2015 7:35 AM  

Is this an alternate universe where tissue donation doesn't exist?

The profiteers at Planned Parenthood were involved with the sale of body parts from babies killed in abortion mills. They weren't donating parts of their own bodies.

But then, SJWs always lie.

Anonymous Laz July 15, 2015 7:36 AM  

"Is this an alternate universe where tissue donation doesn't exist?
It exists, is entirely legal, and advances science."

When you get money for a "donation" it's called a sale. Selling body parts is illegal in the US.

Blogger D. Lane (#0067) July 15, 2015 7:36 AM  

I find abortion distasteful too, but I would hesitate a lot to call it "murder".


Wearing flip-flops to an HR meeting is distasteful. Putting spinners on a Cadillac is distasteful. Killing an unborn child because it doesn't fit into your present lifestyle or financial situation goes quite a bit beyond distasteful.

Anonymous James Parliament July 15, 2015 7:37 AM  

@simplytimothy

Yep, same thought about the context. As callous as it gets.

@Tommy

You sound only slightly better than the trolls already posting here. Why is it distasteful but not murder?

Blogger Houston July 15, 2015 7:38 AM  

In Tolkienian terms America is like Númenor, the superpower once blessed by God whose people have turned from Him to worship their military might, enslave the weak, commit human sacrifice, and persecute the faithful.

Blogger Nate July 15, 2015 7:38 AM  

"Is it murder when you kill a human THAT undeveloped?"

Tommy you ignorant slut.

A human is a human. It doesn't matter how old the human is. Humanity is a binary option. It either is human, or it is not.

There is not even the slightest hint of a debate that it is human. DNA proves that it is not only human.. it is a unique human individual... different from the mother.

Science also proves that the individual unique human is alive.

Therefore... killing it... for any reason other than self defense is murder.

Blogger Eric Mueller July 15, 2015 7:38 AM  

And of course, "Planned Barrenhood" is a multi-billion dollar worldwide business, which according to the left can't survive without additional billions in taxpayer funding, for services they don't even actually provide.

Blogger HickoryHammer #0211 July 15, 2015 7:38 AM  

More like new Sodom, probably with the same ending too. Whenever I read stories like this the presence of that Idaho supervolcano seems to make more sense.

Anonymous Shutup, Tad July 15, 2015 7:39 AM  

@ 11. E&i

> This has everything to do with.....

Shutup, Tad.

Blogger John July 15, 2015 7:40 AM  

"Is it murder when you kill a human THAT undeveloped?"

Well, it's killing. It's a human. It's planned and premeditated.

Sure SOUNDS like murder...

Blogger Steveo #238 July 15, 2015 7:40 AM  

11. & 14. Thanks, per Matt Walsh, we know never to take your opinions seriously ever again.

And you cannot disqualify me: I am trans-portation. I am a bus. I am Steveo the Bus.

Maroons.

Blogger Guitar Man July 15, 2015 7:41 AM  

Defenders of death, those without Good despise the innocent and destroy life.

Blogger Shimshon July 15, 2015 7:41 AM  

A rabbi I know, who is not prone to hyperbole, used the word "holocaust" to describe what has been going with abortions for the last several decades.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 15, 2015 7:46 AM  

Is it murder when you kill a human THAT undeveloped?

Yes.

This is an obvious part of legal abortion, though. I would have been more surprised to find out it wasn't going on.

Imagine that you're an assistant in an abortion clinic, working all day to save unfortunate girls from being, as Obama put it, "punished with a baby." At the end of the day, you have this bucket of human tissue, and someone says to you, "Hey, I'll give you $100 for that."

Why wouldn't you sell it? According to you, it was just unwanted tissue in the first place. Selling it is no worse than selling the sweepings from a haircut. It's not going to do anyone any good in a medical landfill. Maybe you're legally prevented, but that's only because of a bunch of conservative Christians who want to force rape victims to spend their lives pregnant. You practically have a moral imperative to ignore the law and sell that tissue, to help fund the good work you do in saving victims.

Given legal abortion, why shouldn't they think that way?

Anonymous grey enlightenment July 15, 2015 7:49 AM  

For the right, an argument can be made that abortions can reduce entitlement spending and crime. Calling it murder is a bit of a stretch

Blogger Nate July 15, 2015 7:53 AM  

"For the right, an argument can be made that abortions can reduce entitlement spending and crime. Calling it murder is a bit of a stretch "

That's not the argument of the far right.

Its the argument of Margaret Sanger.... and Hillary Clinton.

Anonymous p-dawg July 15, 2015 7:54 AM  

@Theists B. Dull: Donation, eh? Interesting choice of words. It's also not "perfectly legal", or there wouldn't be a question of whether the laws against selling human organs have been breached. See, trafficking in human body parts *is* quite illegal, sir. And when one receives lucrative remuneration in exchange for something, that is most certainly not a donation. It's a sale.

Anonymous p-dawg July 15, 2015 7:58 AM  

@grey enlightenment: So, one can harvest viable human organs from a fetus, but in your eyes, that doesn't make that fetus human? Viable human organs don't grow on trees, fool. They grow in HUMANS. Unless you are somehow arguing that PP killed those humans and harvested their organs in self-defense, that's clearly murder.

Anonymous NorthernHamlet July 15, 2015 8:00 AM  

Nate,

Humanity is a binary option. It either is human, or it is not.

What leads you to believe this?

Blogger njartist July 15, 2015 8:00 AM  

@4. Shimshon July 15, 2015 6:07 AM

Unfortunately, social conservatives are also subject to MPAI.

Oh, Almighty God! Great are Thy works!; for Thou hast created the Libertarian who by the greatness of his wisdom, reasoning, and knowledge, he alone is able judge all others, even those who call upon your name, and declare them MPAIs: this you have done Almighty One despite the very real fact that the Libertarian, in his heart, has declared You and Your Word to be as nothing.

Blogger Sherwood family July 15, 2015 8:01 AM  

But abortions do not reduce entitlement spending. What they do is use the easy and legal availability of killing a baby in utero to lull individuals into a carnal security that says, "Do whatever you want, if you decide that you do not want this baby you can always abort it." This convenience induces individuals to engage in sexual behavior that was publically condemned and much rarer in times past. The consequences, which are evident all around us, are not a dearth of babies (except for the White and well off) but a glut of illegitimacy. The illegitimacy rate has moved up and up and up since the days of Daniel Patrick Moynihan, who had the temerity to draw public attention to it. While the number of pregnant teens has gone down since it peaked in the 80s the over all number of children born out of wedlock continues to climb. Far from curbing illegitimacy; abortion, and by extension, contraception, have caused it to explode along with the attendant explosion of entitlement spending on state sponsored bastardy.

Blogger RC July 15, 2015 8:03 AM  

"For the right, an argument can be made that abortions can reduce entitlement spending and crime. Calling it murder is a bit of a stretch"

Overdosing grandma to avoid the chemo expenses could reduce the deficit. And it's not murder because she's almost dead anyway.

Blogger Nate July 15, 2015 8:07 AM  

"What leads you to believe this? "

Science.

If we find a mangled corpse of something... we look to Science to tell us what the thing was.

Science has a few mechanisms to help with this... but ultimately... it comes down to DNA.

The DNA is either human.... 1 or it is not human... 2.

Binary.

Anonymous grey enlightenment July 15, 2015 8:09 AM  

Its the argument of Margaret Sanger.... and Hillary Clinton.

lol maybe 50 years ago, but if a liberal like Hillary tried to frame abortion in that context they would be hung out to dry. When William Bennett made a comment about abortion and crime, it was the left who attacked him. Same for Steven Levitt, whose chapter in Freakanomics about the prophylactic effect of abortion on crime received much criticism by civil rights groups ,as well as some criticism on the right. The left supports abortion not to potentially make the world a better place, but due to a lack of impulse control, as a form of 'empowerment' for women.

From From Jonathan Gruber’s 1998 study:

…for the marginal child not born due to increased abortion access, the odds of living in a single parent family would have been roughly 70 percent higher, the odds of living in poverty nearly 40 percent higher, the odds of welfare receipt 50 percent higher.”… “From these results, we estimate that the legalization of abortion saved the federal government over $14 billion in welfare payments through 1994.”

Abortion is disgusting, but so is cleaning up crime scenes. I discuss this further here. I think rather than immediately dismissing it is 'bad' we need to consider the possible good that can come out of it, at least from a utilitarian/pragmatist perspective.

Blogger VD July 15, 2015 8:10 AM  

Is it murder when you kill a human THAT undeveloped?

Yes.

Blogger Nate July 15, 2015 8:13 AM  

"lol maybe 50 years ago, but if a liberal like Hillary tried to frame abortion in that context they would be hung out to dry."

The amusing thing is... you think that because the left avoids these positions publicly... that it does not share them.

You need to speak to our resident liberal DH... or... you just need to take some time to develop a proper coffee house habit... and make some liberal friends.

Once you're excepted into the group... you can sit and listen to them explain how sad, but necessary abortion is, to keep the undesirables from taking over.

Abortion is Margaret Sanger's Final Solution to Abraham Linoln's problem.

None of them are my people. None of them are from the right.

Blogger Josh July 15, 2015 8:13 AM  

I think rather than immediately dismissing it is 'bad' we need to consider the possible good that can come out of it, at least from a utilitarian/pragmatist perspective.

No, we don't.

Blogger Josh July 15, 2015 8:14 AM  

From From Jonathan Gruber’s 1998 study:

Wouldn't that be the same Gruber that talking about how it was necessary to lie to the American people in order to get Obamacare passed?

Blogger Nate July 15, 2015 8:16 AM  

"I think rather than immediately dismissing it is 'bad' we need to consider the possible good that can come out of it, at least from a utilitarian/pragmatist perspective."

The ends do not justify the means. To suggest such makes you no better than Stalin or Mao or any of the other mass murders out to improve the world.

A pox on you.

Blogger Josh July 15, 2015 8:16 AM  

For the right, an argument can be made that abortions can reduce entitlement spending and crime. Calling it murder is a bit of a stretch.

For the Germans, an argument can be made that the final solution can reduce cultural degeneracy. Calling it genocide is a bit of a stretch...

Blogger D. Lane (#0067) July 15, 2015 8:17 AM  

Abortion is disgusting, but so is cleaning up crime scenes. I discuss this further here. I think rather than immediately dismissing it is 'bad' we need to consider the possible good that can come out of it, at least from a utilitarian/pragmatist perspective.

The end justifies the means. Right.

Blogger rumpole5 July 15, 2015 8:19 AM  

It disturbs me that there is this much opinion scatter in the comments on this subject. I would have expected an almost universal expression of disgust. We are indeed far gone as a society.

Blogger Mad Dok Rob July 15, 2015 8:20 AM  

Ya know I always thought that when God decided to start throwing mountains of fire at the earth to punish us, the home of my ancestors, Denmark, was going to get hit first. The USA is definitely making a push for that number one spot. We're number one, we're number one, Go USA....

I am going to go in the corner and throw up again.

Anonymous ZhukovG July 15, 2015 8:20 AM  

Don’t worry once the call of the Muezzin can be heard from Bangor to San Diego, then these evil doers will be dealt with. Heaven knows we Christians have, thus far, proven ourselves utterly impotent in this regard.

We pass out voting guides when we should evangelize. We idolize the military even as they slaughter civilians in our name. We allow the blood soaked Stars and Stripes to desecrate our houses of worship.

And that’s just the denominations that are still vaguely recognizable as Christian.

Note to my fellow Roman Catholics; please take this as a preemptive STFU. If we are in fact the original Church of our Lord Jesus Christ, then the guilt weighs on us far heavier than it does our Protestant and Orthodox brothers and sisters.

Blogger Josh July 15, 2015 8:20 AM  

If Obama ordered drone strikes against all PP clinics and declared them enemy combatants, I would pardon him for everything else he did while in office.

OpenID simplytimothy July 15, 2015 8:22 AM  

I discuss this further here. I think rather than immediately dismissing it is 'bad' we need to consider the possible good that can come out of it, at least from a utilitarian/pragmatist perspective.

I have come to the conclusion that engaging in any utilitarian pragmatist argument is futile in that the discussion always devolves to a debate over "good" or "utility". It then becomes a pretend scenario, which, in the real world, will be passed by by real-world horrors committed by those who think in utilitarian/pragmatist terms.

The moral ground shifts, and the process repeats. Goodness, Swift was satire for crying out loud; you are one sale to a dog food company away (With a hefty commission !$$$$) from making him reality.

No more utilitarian bullshit for me. none.


Blogger Josh July 15, 2015 8:24 AM  

I have come to the conclusion that engaging in any utilitarian pragmatist argument is futile in that the discussion always devolves to a debate over "good" or "utility". It then becomes a pretend scenario, which, in the real world, will be passed by by real-world horrors committed by those who think in utilitarian/pragmatist terms.

The best way to confront the utilitarian pragmatist is to start talking about the good and utility that can come from eliminating the utilitarian or his family.

Blogger Nate July 15, 2015 8:28 AM  

" I would have expected an almost universal expression of disgust"

Blame Alpha Game. Before these dark enlightenment morons started coming around we had the baby killers beaten into submission to the point that they wouldn't dare show their faces.

Blogger His Majesty July 15, 2015 8:31 AM  

The Nazis never "harvested" any "victims". Any "victims" they had were potential saboteurs, and they were interned just like other war powers did to their "victims". If you haven't heard, "The Holocau$t" has been thoroughly debunked for the fraudulent extortion industry it is. Not a single stitch of hard evidence ("eyewitnesses" are not hard evidence, as any lawyer can attest) has been produced in 70 years. Only uuwuuuuwwwwuuu, "evil feels" and such. Give me a break. When you bomb a country to smithereens you're going to find a lot of dead people, from direct fire, radiation, starvation, disease, etc.

There's a very good reason why all of the alleged "death camps" were behind the Iron Curtain" and thereby off limits for inspection until 1991.

"Feelings of evil" indeed. From the mass murdering US AAC & the British RAF!

Blogger Josh July 15, 2015 8:37 AM  

His Majesty:

"your" "comments" "need" "more" "random" "scare quotes."

Blogger Nate July 15, 2015 8:38 AM  

TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLL

Blogger D. Lane (#0067) July 15, 2015 8:40 AM  

Obligatory.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 15, 2015 8:42 AM  

For the right, an argument can be made that abortions can reduce entitlement spending and crime.

No, even the utilitarian argument (which belongs to the left anyway, not the right) doesn't work. Read Pimps, Whores, and Welfare Brats by Star Parker. She had four abortions before straightening out her life and giving birth to her fifth baby.

She talks about how she and her friends used abortion as just another way to stay in and play the welfare system. Get pregnant, get extra assistance as long as possible while pregnant, then get an abortion. Rinse and repeat. Abortion ends up being just another form of birth control, except a profitable one.

You might make the argument that they still end up having fewer children, so fewer new mouths for welfare to feed. However, they also spend more years in the system becoming dependent on it, so by the time they do decide to keep a kid, they're well-established leeches and will teach their kids the same. If they had a baby at 17 instead of their first abortion, you don't know how many of them would shape up and make a better life.

Blogger Iowahine July 15, 2015 8:42 AM  

@Tommy
Yes. How is an organ sold that is not developed? Abortion is legal up until the moment of birth.

Blogger Owen July 15, 2015 8:45 AM  

"A Modest Proposal" was supposed to be satire.

Eating food purchased with the profits from murdered babies is only one step removed.

Blogger His Majesty July 15, 2015 8:46 AM  

Quotation marks are only scary to someone who gets "feelings of evil" from an empty building.

Blogger Owen July 15, 2015 8:46 AM  

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Blogger Owen July 15, 2015 8:47 AM  

The baby's life is God's to give and take.

Taking it outside of God's plan is murder.

Blogger YIH July 15, 2015 8:48 AM  

Shimshon:
A rabbi I know, who is not prone to hyperbole, used the word "holocaust" to describe what has been going with abortions for the last several decades.
That's quite interesting.
First, let’s look at the PRRI data. Essentially regardless of denominational affiliation or demographics, American Jews think abortion should be legal in all (49%) or almost all (44%) cases. That is, fully 93% of all American Jews support legalized abortion in some fashion. Even political leanings, while influential, are not determinative. Among Jewish Democrats support is 95%, but 77% of Jewish Republicans also favor legalized abortion in all or most cases, far exceeding the rate of other groups studied.
Note the URL.
But the why is understandable when you realize that those who scream ''nazi'' the loudest are the ones who actually happen to support doing a holocaust - on those who somewhat resemble them but are not them.

Blogger Sherwood family July 15, 2015 8:51 AM  

The wages of sin are death. Sin takes life and transforms it into death. Abortion takes procreation and makes it into annihilation. Utilitarian arguments seek to trade life for profit. Christ takes death and transforms it into life.

Blogger Josh July 15, 2015 8:53 AM  

Quotation marks are only scary to someone who gets "feelings of evil" from an empty building.

Could you be any more apsie?

Anonymous Anonymous July 15, 2015 8:53 AM  

Tommy, you are severely morally underdeveloped.

You may wish to reconsider whether development status is the appropriate place to draw the line between legal but distasteful killing and murder before someone decides to apply your own standard to you. Keeping you around is pretty distasteful, maybe even less distasteful than killing you.

And if we can sell your organs for a profit...

DM

Anonymous RedJack #22 July 15, 2015 8:56 AM  

When I see people like this, I see evil.

My bride's water broke at 15 weeks. Note, that is within the "not human" arguement of the pro Baal worshipers.

We spent eight days in the hospital, told our child would die. We did ultrasounds, and I saw her face. After that week, my bride was sent home and put on bed rest. She bled, lost fluid, and lived in hell. Yet, last May, my little bear was born.

Little bear is doing well. She is small, and has some gagging issues (related to the NICU stay), but she is as active and alert as my older girl was. The face I saw when she was in the womb is the same one I saw today when she waved and said "Bye Bye DaDa!". Yet at 15 weeks, these worshipers of infanticide would have rathered chopped her up and sold her for scrap. We had a few well meaning people tell us while my bride was on bedrest that "You know, it is easier to flush and try again!" Most of those will not talk to us after Little Bear was born, because my bride keeps saying "You think it was better to kill her now?"

We should apologize to the ones hanged at Nuremberg. We should remember the dead of Carthage, one of the few who had child sacrifice's near the scale of what is going on, as small scale meddlers.
We have forgotten the lessons of the founders of our civilization, and are determined to recreate their fall.

If this is civilization, where the unborn are killed and sold for scrap, then I will be the barbarian.

Blogger Joshua Dyal July 15, 2015 9:00 AM  

It disturbs me that there is this much opinion scatter in the comments on this subject. I would have expected an almost universal expression of disgust. We are indeed far gone as a society.

Because it's the abortion business itself that is the disgusting part of the equation, and that already has pretty widespread societal acceptance. Selling dead baby parts is just tired icing on the cake.

I came to realize recently that I've spent literally the last few years being angry as the layers of the onion of our societal decadence have been peeled back. I always knew that prior to the Second Coming it was going to get really, really evil here in the world, but it was always kind of abstract. Thanks to decentralized right wing news on the internet, I've had my eyes really opened to what's actually going on, and it's made me angry for a long time.

And while I'm not really much of a believer in the Kubler-Ross model, I do agree that it's time that I let the pendulum swing back. Being angry all the time accomplishes little. It's time to accept the new reality and figure out what your're going to do about it.

And in that context; like I said, the fact that this is happening is almost not even surprising. So you get reactions that are emotionally mixed.

Then there's the utilitarian morons, but there's really only one or two of them, and they've been pretty handily beat on in general.

Anonymous Dr. J July 15, 2015 9:04 AM  

access to low-income and minority women.

A new SJW corollary. In the rare instances in which an SWJ lets the truth slip, he reveals the utter depravity and horror of the world he and his fellow good-thinkers crave.

Tell us, why do you want dead the children of minorities and the poor? And then support stealing the remains of their slaughtered progeny to sell for profit?

Blogger Nate July 15, 2015 9:05 AM  

"Tommy, you are severely morally underdeveloped."

He's a diaper headed turk. What did you expect?

Anonymous Athor Pel July 15, 2015 9:06 AM  

"44. grey enlightenment July 15, 2015 8:09 AM
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Abortion is disgusting, but so is cleaning up crime scenes. I discuss this further here. I think rather than immediately dismissing it is 'bad' we need to consider the possible good that can come out of it, at least from a utilitarian/pragmatist perspective. "



If you are among people that you are not 100% certain they share your beliefs you should never utter the words I quoted above. You could easily end up dead.

Actually, now that I think about it, you should watch out for your utilitarian brothers and sisters as well. They may just decide you would make great bar-b-que.

Anonymous Heaviside July 15, 2015 9:11 AM  

>I walked thru Bergen-Belson, and the evil can be felt.

Do you mean Bergen-Belsen, the camp even orthodox Holocaust historians agree had no gas chambers?

>No one can truly grasp the horrors and inhumanity that transpired in these hells, but we also have failed to heed the lessons. We can lay words to paper, errect monuments, and even hallow the ground to the memories of the fallen, but cannot array the scope of the depravity and the works of evil.

Americans have also failed to heed the lessons of their persecution of the people of Japan, yet apparently you don't find that worthy of mention.

>It now seems that our tax money funds version 2.0.

Your tax money funded version 1.0.

Blogger bw July 15, 2015 9:11 AM  

abortion, and by extension, contraception

PP was originally called the Birth Control League, after all.

as Obama put it, "punished with a baby."

Material and Cultural Marxists hate Nature.

They hate it.



Blogger JartStar July 15, 2015 9:15 AM  

God has turned His back and is permitting to stew in the full fruits of its own evil

This is the best way to describe it. Sometimes I hear about God pouring out wrath on a country but from what I see all God has to do is remove his common grace.

Anonymous yay Churchians! July 15, 2015 9:15 AM  

DO NOT WORRY, THE CHURCH IS ON TOP OF THIS (oh wait... )

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/heeding-francis-iowa-catholic-leaders-pressure-16-field-32174244

Roman Catholic leaders in the early voting state of Iowa implored candidates for president Thursday to take up Pope Francis' call for "profound political courage" by focusing their campaigns as much on improving the environment and income inequality as they have on opposing gay marriage and abortion in past elections.

The vocal pivot from such traditional social issues marks the first time U.S. Catholic bishops have publicly asked those seeking the White House to heed the admonitions of Francis' June encyclical, said Bishop Richard Pates of Des Moines.

"These are going to be difficult decisions that have to be made," said the Rev. Bud Grant of Davenport, joined at a news conference by bishops from central and eastern Iowa. "Politicians have to have the courage to do the right thing, and not necessarily the politically expedient thing."

The push from bishops threatens to disrupt the historically reliable alliance of evangelical Christians and conservative Roman Catholic voters, putting pressure on Republicans who have leaned on their religious faith to guide them on social issues...

Steve Scheffler, a Republican and leader in the state's evangelical Christian community, said Francis' writings may peel some Catholics away from the coalition of evangelical pastors and conservative priests united by their position on issues like abortion.

Anonymous Takin' a look July 15, 2015 9:16 AM  

My congratulations

Blogger Cail Corishev July 15, 2015 9:18 AM  

No more utilitarian bullshit for me. none.

You're right, I shouldn't even respond to the utilitarian argument. Better to just peer at them for a moment and say, "Hmm, now that you mention it, how useful are you these days? Any useless eaters in your house?"

Blogger James Higham July 15, 2015 9:22 AM  

Jade Helm starts today. Lots of good writing material in there.

Anonymous Potato the Elder July 15, 2015 9:24 AM  

Delenda USA Est!

Blogger Josh July 15, 2015 9:25 AM  

DO NOT WORRY, THE CHURCH IS ON TOP OF THIS (oh wait... )

The southern baptists are.

Anonymous Gecko July 15, 2015 9:25 AM  

Abortion is Margaret Sanger's Final Solution to Abraham Linoln's problem.

Thank you for that, Nate.

By the way, do any of us doubt that "expenses" include "harvesting?"

Anonymous Murdering Father July 15, 2015 9:37 AM  

I was 15 when I paid 110 dollars to murder my own child. Abortion, was legal, I was scared, she was pregnant, and the adults had left the room.


That child would be 31 now.

Not a DAY passes that I don't think of that child.

I ask no mercy, nor expect any.

I look at the children I have now, and their beauty and joy remind me of the one whose life I took.

I often wonder what Hell will be like.

Blogger Doom July 15, 2015 9:40 AM  

What about "literally going to hell", assuming a literal belief in hell, is understated? Selling baby parts is a purely logical capitalist reality that must come with systemic genocide. Is selling parts worse than murder though? Hell, why not send the remnants yet to NK? It could help with their protein deficiency. Maybe the UN could get that going. Same with China, they have lots of little useless protein clusters, made fresh by UN guided law. Or are they already doing that? Numbed indeed... the many.

Funny how many people would be absolutely horrified to know someone was pulling the young out of any other animal in this way, and killing them (can't murder an animal, only abuse it, but don't tell "liberals" that), or for another example, using a baseball bat to kill pups for fur. But for humans it seems to be okay? Dead. Damned. Perhaps even me for not doing anything but complaining... Not sure.

Blogger Rabbi B July 15, 2015 9:41 AM  

Trafficking in the bodies and souls of men.
_________________________________________________________________________________________________

It is about us on every side, and especially the government and the courts have become the vehicle to force this anti-God view on the total population. It's exactly where we are.

The abortion ruling is a very clear one. The abortion ruling, of course, is also a natural result of this other world view because with this other world view, human life -- your individual life -- has no intrinsic value. You are a wart upon the face of an absolutely impersonal universe. Your aspirations have no fulfillment in the "what-isness" of what is. Your aspirations damn you. Many of the young people who come to us understand this very well because their aspirations as Humanists have no fulfillment, if indeed the final reality is only material or energy shaped by pure chance.

The universe cannot fulfill anything that you say when you say, "It is beautiful"; "I love"; "It is right"; "It is wrong." These words are meaningless words against the backdrop of this other world view. So what we find is that the abortion case should not have been a surprise because it boiled up out of, quite naturally, (I would use the word again) mathematically, this other world view. In this case, human life has no distinct value whatsoever, and we find this Supreme Court in one ruling overthrew the abortion laws of all 50 states, and they made this form of killing human life (because that's what it is) the law. The law declared that this form of killing human life was to be accepted, and for many people, because they had no set ethic, when the Supreme Court said that it was legal, in the intervening years, it has become ethical.

The courts of this country have forced this view and its results on the total population. What we find is that as the courts have done this, without any longer that which the founding fathers comprehended of law (A man like Blackstone, with his Commentaries, understood, and the other lawgivers in this country in the beginning): That there is a law of God which gives foundation. It becomes quite natural then, that they would also cut themselves loose from a strict constructionism concerning the Constitution.

Everything is relative. So as you cut yourself loose from the Law of God, in any concept whatsoever, you also soon are cutting yourself loose from a strict constructionism and each ruling is to be seen as an arbitrary choice by a group of people as to what they may honestly think is for the sociological good of the community, of the country, for the given moment.

Blogger Rabbi B July 15, 2015 9:41 AM  

(continued)

Now, along with that is the fact that the courts are increasingly making law and thus we find that the legislatures' powers are increasingly diminished in relationship to the power of the courts. Now the pro-abortion people have been very wise about this in the last, say, 10 years, and Christians very silly. I wonder sometimes where we've been because the pro-abortion people have used the courts for their end rather than the legislatures -- because the courts are not subject to the people's thinking, nor their will, either by election nor by a re-election. Consequently, the courts have been the vehicle used to bring this whole view and to force it on our total population. It has not been largely the legislatures. It has been rather, the courts.

The result is a relativistic value system. A lack of a final meaning to life -- that's first. Why does human life have any value at all, if that is all that reality is? Not only are you going to die individually, but the whole human race is going to die, someday. It may not take the falling of the atom bombs, but someday the world will grow too hot, too cold. That's what we are told on this other final reality, and someday all you people not only will be individually dead, but the whole conscious life on this world will be dead, and nobody will see the birds fly. And there's no meaning to life.

- Francis Schaeffer
_________________________________________________________________________________________________

What is G-d, Whose judgment does not sleep, to do with a nation that not only fails to defend and preserve the lives of the most innocent among us, but sanctions their destruction? What is G-d to do when sin is the law?

Anonymous SJB July 15, 2015 9:43 AM  

Murdering Father: I too deserve Hell.

There is a priest who suggests you name the child and ask that child to pray for you.

Blogger Nate July 15, 2015 9:44 AM  

"I ask no mercy, nor expect any.

I look at the children I have now, and their beauty and joy remind me of the one whose life I took.

I often wonder what Hell will be like."

You suffer the sin of despair. You are not the first murderer to do so. You think that what you have done is so horrible... your eternal life is now without value.

Yet Jesus went to the cross for you... just as He did for everyone else.

Your eternal life is not without value. God loves you just as He loved all sinners. We were yet dead sinners when He gave His Son. This proves that He values all of our eternal lives.

Accept the forgiveness that has been offered you... and live your life in such a way that it may lead others down the path of the righteous. Christ frees us from the bondage of sin. The gates to Hell are barred from the inside.

its time to come out.

Anonymous .... July 15, 2015 9:46 AM  

Dear Murdering Father:

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."

Pray in His name for forgiveness, and you will be forgiven.

Amen.

Blogger Owen July 15, 2015 9:47 AM  

Years ago, I read an updated "Screwtape Letter" in which the author talked about how he's convinced humans to "eat their young" and referenced abortion as the means. I have tried to find it, but can't. I wish I could credit the author.

I read the Screwtape Letters almost 20 years ago. It's entirely possibly I'm mixing memories and it existed in the original in some form.

Blogger Josh July 15, 2015 9:49 AM  

I often wonder what Hell will be like.

You don't have to find out.

Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life.

Anonymous Gapeseed July 15, 2015 9:55 AM  

Murdering Father,

Thank you for your testimony. I pray that God will forgive you, and that you will forgive yourself.

Anonymous Stingray July 15, 2015 9:55 AM  

You suffer the sin of despair. You are not the first murderer to do so. You think that what you have done is so horrible... your eternal life is now without value.

Yet Jesus went to the cross for you... just as He did for everyone else.


Amen.

No ones' sins are above God.

Anonymous WillBest July 15, 2015 9:56 AM  

I have posted it a few times elsewhere

1) If you accept abortion in any form other than to save the life of the mother you are already relegating the unborn child to a parasite or medical waste. At which point you should have no moral issue with what happens to the biomatter whether it is incinerated, dumped, or sold for experiment.

2) If you are in favor of surrogacy, you are already in favor of the buying and selling of live humans, which is by far and away more offensive than the buying and selling of dead humans. So your only real objection could be allowing a murderer to profit from his actions, which isn't the offense being taken by these people as far as I am aware.

This revelation is rather telling because it demonstrates how much PR/rationalization has been used in order to convince people to accept something that they instinctively know violates their moral code. This incident has forced a lot of people to really see where "it is not murder" really means. Sadly, however, Morpheus is wrong. You can plug back in and these people will go back to not even giving it a second thought next week.

Anonymous phantom26d July 15, 2015 9:57 AM  

I don't like abortion either, and I think women who support abortion should be sterilized. Not that such a thing will ever happen, but perhaps a more practical method to combat abortion would be to greatly stigmatize it.

I think there should be a online database of women who has aborted their children, divorce-raped their husbands, made false rape accusations and whatnot. Perhaps even a seperate site / section for known SJWs. And it should be mirrored on various parts of the world to resist attempts to shut it down. If anyone thinks this is impractical or unsustainable, please let me know why.

Blogger Kaijubushi July 15, 2015 9:58 AM  

Catholic here. Not a Pope Francis fan. We have suffered worse.

Anonymous willfarts July 15, 2015 9:59 AM  

" If you are in favor of surrogacy, you are already in favor of the buying and selling of live humans, which is by far and away more offensive than the buying and selling of dead humans."

Slavery is more offensive than murder?

Not according to God.

Anonymous farmer Tom July 15, 2015 10:01 AM  

Amen Nate,

When we repent of our sin, God forgives. He offers new life and peace through the person and work of His Son Jesus Christ.

Blogger Kaijubushi July 15, 2015 10:01 AM  

I don't think surrogacy is moral, but at least they aren't tearing the infant limb from limb and auctioning it off. The baby at least gets to live.

Blogger Rhology July 15, 2015 10:13 AM  

Planned Murderhood is not the problem. Focusing on defunding or abolishing Planned Murderhood is the equivalent of cramming Kleenex in your nostrils to stop your nosebleed while you are dying from leukemia. It's the proverbial band-aid applied atop the lethal illness. Neither is getting 0bama out of office, even through impeachment, or even imprisoning him (or handing him over to justified execution at the hands of the government whose laws he has so willfully violated again and again) (and make no mistake, if our government loved the law of God, that's precisely what they'd do), or removing most or all of the members of SCOTUS from the bench.

The problem is that the professing churches of the United States of America, the professing, visible people of God, have lost their saltiness and their brightness. Instead of taking up our crosses to put our fleshly lusts and priorities to death, we have redefined what Jesus wants and neglected weightier matters of the law - justice and mercy - in favor of all sorts of pursuits of Christian liberty and the leisure that our comfortable bourgeois American lifestyle affords us. And there are lots of others pursuits of "Christian liberty" than just smoking pipes, brewing and drinking craft beers, and ensconcing ourselves deep in superhero movies.

Being moved to action or compassion by the knowledge that the parts of murdered babies are being sold on the black market or seeking to fight child sacrifice by exposing the fact that professional murderers are immoral in other ways is just plain silly. That is, it is silly if you are at the same time supporting or ignoring laws that protect the right to murder babies so long as they are not 20 weeks old or the children of wicked men.
Stop fighting abortion for any other reason than that it is murder. And stop not fighting abortion. It is child sacrifice. As RC Sproul Jr says, it is impossible to overreact to this gross injustice, this amazing violation of the love of neighbor and of the image of God in human beings.

Wake up! Obeying God's commands to love Him and your neighbor IS the main thing! Take this opportunity these undercover reporters handed you to repent and go in the power of the Holy Spirit to be salty and bright in this culture of death. Yes, read your books and your Bible, and then DO WHAT THEY SAY.

But prove yourselves doers of the word, and not merely hearers who delude themselves. For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man who looks at his natural face in a mirror; for once he has looked at himself and gone away, he has immediately forgotten what kind of person he was. But one who looks intently at the perfect law, the law of liberty, and abides by it, not having become a forgetful hearer but an effectual doer, this man will be blessed in what he does.
--James 1:22-25

If you are slack in the day of distress, your strength is limited.
Deliver those who are being taken away to death, and those who are staggering to slaughter, Oh hold them back.
If you say, “See, we did not know this,” does He not consider it who weighs the hearts? And does He not know it who keeps your soul? And will He not render to man according to his work?
--Proverbs 24:10-12

Open your mouth for the mute, for the rights of all the unfortunate. Open your mouth, judge righteously, and defend the rights of the afflicted and needy.
--Proverbs 31:8-9

Anonymous hausfrau July 15, 2015 10:14 AM  

"access to low-income and minority women".

How the left does love this talking point. Why do you hate low income and minority children? Are they especially deserving of dismemberment just because they are poor?

As an aside, my mother was offered an abortion when she had an oops pregnancy in 1972. She immediately found another doctor and married our dad. That oops pregnancy is my oldest sister who now has four children, a solid marriage and a nice crime free middle class existence. People make mistakes but the way to remedy that is to take responsibility for one's actions.

OpenID markpower49 July 15, 2015 10:15 AM  

As long as more blacks are aborted than being born, abortion is a moral imperative. Why allow demons to infest this country?

Blogger Nikis-Knight July 15, 2015 10:15 AM  

Abraham had far more compassion than I. I would not argue with God for mercy for the (remnants of) the west.

Blogger ScuzzaMan July 15, 2015 10:17 AM  

"It's legal"

Same shit, different day. FYI, everything the Nazis did was legal under German law. If legality is your moral standard then you have no moral standard.

Fuck sake.

Anonymous James Parliament July 15, 2015 10:18 AM  

The beginning of my understanding that the Left are fundamentally dishonest occurred when I pointed out that abortion always violated women's rights when the fetus was female. It was like their brain skipped, and try kept talking like nothing happened.

Your story is excellent, RedJack. I admire you.

Anonymous Heaviside July 15, 2015 10:19 AM  

>2) If you are in favor of surrogacy, you are already in favor of the buying and selling of live humans, which is by far and away more offensive than the buying and selling of dead humans.

Slavery is a far more moral than killing infants for the sake of convenience.

Blogger JaimeInTexas July 15, 2015 10:23 AM  

I was present at 2 Operation Rescue. This is one issue that will make into something I do not want to be.

Last night, I caught a program in PBS about rescuing families from ISIS controlled territory in Iraq. Hearing the young ladies' account of what was done
to them makes me hate humanity.

And, this abortion stuff ... is ISIS any worse?

I have been wondering for some years now, whether these uSA are the revived Roman Empire / Whore of Babylon spoken of in the Revelation.

Anonymous yay Churchians! July 15, 2015 10:24 AM  

"The problem is that the professing churches of the United States of America, the professing, visible people of God, have lost their saltiness and their brightness."

NOT GONNA HAPPEN

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/heeding-francis-iowa-catholic-leaders-pressure-16-field-32174244

Roman Catholic leaders in the early voting state of Iowa implored candidates for president Thursday to take up Pope Francis' call for "profound political courage" by focusing their campaigns as much on improving the environment and income inequality as they have on opposing gay marriage and abortion in past elections.

"These are going to be difficult decisions that have to be made," said the Rev. Bud Grant of Davenport, joined at a news conference by bishops from central and eastern Iowa. "Politicians have to have the courage to do the right thing, and not necessarily the politically expedient thing."




Blogger epobirs July 15, 2015 10:28 AM  

'Bug Jack Barron' has become undeservedly obscure, as it relates to this situation remarkably well for something written nearly 50 years ago.

Blogger automattthew July 15, 2015 10:35 AM  

"The first thing we do, let's kill all the utilitarians."

Blogger Marie July 15, 2015 10:35 AM  

@ 100 Phamton

" I think women who support abortion should be sterilized"

A lot of women change their mind on abortion once they get pregnant or want children. In the USA, many women bought the line that abortion was a necessary evil after being told horror stories about rape and incest when they were little more than children.

I remember an adult pushing me on the concept of rape when I was 12. How would I like to have to carry a monster's child? I said it would be very hard but the baby would also be from me. I would hope I could do it. (I was trying to be brave.)

Then the adult picked a friend of mine that was rather weak-minded and prone to being hysterical and spun this story about how being in that position would probably make her lose her mind. How could I do that to my friend?

My parents never spoke about abortion, probably because they never dreamed anyone would say those things to me. Between never hearing the arguments against abortion, constantly being bombarded with arguments from the other side from adults much older than me, and emotional manipulation it isn't surprising I was confused for a while.

Yes, you can stigmatized supporting abortion. But that cuts off one of the most powerful paths to lead women back to grace, their calling to be mothers.

Anonymous hausfrau July 15, 2015 10:35 AM  

As long as more blacks are aborted than being born, abortion is a moral imperative. Why allow demons to infest this country?

Whatever else they are, they are still created in God's image like the rest of us (though I'm guessing you don't share the same beliefs regarding God). Even the most ghetto of blacks will respond to incentives. Blacks, up until Johnson's welfare programs, had a much lower rate of illegitimacy and a correspondingly higher rate of marriage. They are capable of behaving themselves when they have to.

Anonymous Willbest July 15, 2015 10:37 AM  

Slavery is a far more moral than killing infants for the sake of convenience

But its two acts. First the murder. Then the selling. If you are okay with selling it doesn't make the murder worse. You should already be at peak outrage before the story.

Anonymous Alexamenos July 15, 2015 10:43 AM  

I'm getting to the point that I'm no longer angry with this sort of vile crap, but rather I'm angry at myself for doing nothing (substantive) about it.

Blogger Mark Citadel July 15, 2015 10:45 AM  

America is guilty of a Holocaust far worse than anything Hitler or Al Qaeda ever managed. How dare this government lord it over other countries declaring their 'American values'. America runs flesh farms like something out of Abe's Odyssey!

Blogger The Remnant July 15, 2015 10:47 AM  

A nation is only as strong as the citizens who constitute it, and the majority of American citizens today are putrid creatures. Impious, ignorant, no sense of absolute truth, dependent on systematized theft, addicted to pleasure, worshiping only the self. There is no need to tear this society down; that will happen on its own. Our job is to be strong and righteous, and to defend ourselves mercilessly whenever they attack us.

Blogger Nikis-Knight July 15, 2015 10:50 AM  

We were. But for the majority who get morality from emotion, it is a useful talking point, as the repulsiveness ifs high.

Blogger Salt July 15, 2015 10:50 AM  

I have been wondering for some years now, whether these uSA are the revived Roman Empire / Whore of Babylon spoken of in the Revelation.

Some say the Whore of Babylon is the RCC. Interesting piece of information I read, part of the area where Washington, DC, is located was originally known as Rome.

Blogger Marissa July 15, 2015 10:52 AM  

Patton marched the local Germans (at gunpoint, no doubt) thru the portals of Dachau, to the ringing chorus of "we had no idea this was happening!"

Who will conquer my country and march me through the halls of Planned Parenthood? I am just as bad as those Germans. I know what is happening and I do nothing.

Anonymous phantom26d July 15, 2015 10:55 AM  

"I'm angry at myself for doing nothing (substantive) about it."

If anyone IS interested in doing something substantive about abortion, divorce rape or false rape claims, let me know what you think about my suggestion about an online database in the 100th comment.

imho, the acts women who murder their children for conveinence, husband / reputation destroying women and SJW types should be documented on World Wide Web with a case-to-case basis. It should be possible to do this and I ask again, if you think otherwise let me know why.

But if you only want to TALK about how horrible, evil and disgusting abortion is, don't let me distract you.

OpenID obsoleteman July 15, 2015 10:58 AM  

Any one remember the book/movie "Coma"? seems we have a new, more depraved reality.
It's not that people don't care, it's that most are unaware, which is the corollary to MPAI.

Anonymous Spooner July 15, 2015 10:59 AM  

In my work I use Stem Cell Skin Grafts. I use, MiMedx products who procures the Stem Cells from placentas recovered from C-Sections of voluntary participants. My research supports this claim, I do not support the use of aborted children for the grafts I use. If anyone has any information to contrary I would stop using the product.

Blogger David-093 July 15, 2015 11:00 AM  

"I ask no mercy, nor expect any."

No sin is beyond God's grace except to refuse it. He offers it to you freely, at the cost of His Son on the cross. Acknowledge your sins, ask His forgiveness, and accept Jesus into your life and be free of your despair.

The dark never lasts, come on home to the Light.

Blogger Guitar Man July 15, 2015 11:00 AM  

Wow, Vox is full of trolls lately.

Anonymous Alexamenos July 15, 2015 11:06 AM  

"If anyone IS interested in doing something substantive about abortion, divorce rape or false rape claims, let me know what you think about my suggestion about an online database in the 100th comment."

I can definitely see some merit in this--99% of women would be horrified by the thought of their name being on such public display. You could count on this being denounced heartily by sjws, which would be proof of its efficacy.

Anonymous The other robot July 15, 2015 11:06 AM  

Someone else in Greece has some integrity.

Blogger David-093 July 15, 2015 11:09 AM  

Our parents and grandparents generation should have marched out with guns to these clinics as they were being built and destroyed them, along with the abortion doctors.

Whatever countries result from the break up of America, it's a mistake we won't make again.

Blogger bw July 15, 2015 11:09 AM  

Was Jesus gay?

He probably had some Happy moments, sure, but He had a lot going on.

Anonymous Murdering Father July 15, 2015 11:10 AM  

Thank you all. I never thought to name my child. I will pray on a name. They deserve that, at least.

And thank you, Nate,-Moral despair is a form of vanity. Remorse can blind you.

And I have accepted Christ as my savior. I cannot forgive myself, though-the enormity of my act, now that I am a father, stays with me.

How anyone can rationalize this demonic act is beyond me.

Blogger tweell July 15, 2015 11:14 AM  

When does the Almighty bless us with a soul? At the moment of conception? At 23 weeks of gestation? At the moment of birth? Two weeks after birth?

Me, I believe it is the moment of conception. I am a sinner, but am not willing to get anywhere near murder of innocent children. For those who believe differently, understand that it's God's view, not ours, that counts in the hereafter. When He judges you guilty of murder and casts you into Hell, you cannot say you were not warned!

Blogger JaimeInTexas July 15, 2015 11:14 AM  

I have heard that naming the child and do a burial ceremony helps.

Anonymous BigGaySteve July 15, 2015 11:15 AM  

I would like to remind people that Gosnell did what he did because it took less money and skill. I saw the math a few months after he was caught. He made several times the profit on each and he might not have been skilled enough to safely perform legal abortions. He induced labor & killed the baby after it came out.

They discussed it while drinking wine "I find abortion distasteful too" ""Hey, I'll give you $100 for that.""

Oddly Barney Frank prefers chocolate covered white baby penises. Before this I thought people where just joking about him eating them.

When I saw that young woman, in a casual sun-dress

She just had a foreskin facial http://www.bellanaija.com/2015/04/23/is-the-foreskin-facial-the-beauty-industrys-weirdest-treatment/

Is this an alternate universe where tissue donation doesn't exist?

Just like 3 days after a palate of Doritos is delivered to GRRM, "Its not enough NEED MOAR". Also the measures taken to save peoples lives lowers the value of the body parts. Someone who died after being in the ICU for months has little that a transplant team would want to harvest, possibly not even the corneas. That said having known people on transplant teams my drivers license lists me as NOT A DONOR.

Anonymous FP July 15, 2015 11:15 AM  

From the transcript:

"Exactly. So then you’re just kind of cognizant of where you put your graspers, you try to intentionally go above and below the thorax, so that, you know, we’ve been very good at getting heart, lung, liver, because we know that, so I’m not gonna crush that part, I’m going to basically crush below, I’m gonna crush above, and I’m gonna see if I can get it all intact. "

Ladies and gents, modern medical science, you're moral betters and masters.

Anonymous The other robot July 15, 2015 11:15 AM  

Even the most ghetto of blacks will respond to incentives. Blacks, up until Johnson's welfare programs, had a much lower rate of illegitimacy and a correspondingly higher rate of marriage. They are capable of behaving themselves when they have to.

Science is possibly to blame for the big change.

How? Hook worm.

Hookworm seems to have come to the US in the guts of African Slaves, but blacks were more resistant to it than whites. This meant that blacks in the south were better at farming than whites.

Around 1900 they discovered how to reduce the incidence of hookworm and the black advantage at farming disappeared and now they are far less productive members of society.

Also, the destruction of America's manufacturing industries has not helped.

Blogger David-093 July 15, 2015 11:21 AM  

"When does the Almighty bless us with a soul?"

"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." Jeremiah 1:5

Blogger Rabbi B July 15, 2015 11:22 AM  

@Murdering Father

There is no pit so deep that He is not deeper still . . . we all have to live with the reality of whatever we have done in this life, but our hope is in a greater Reality Who, while we were yet sinners, provided a way back for anyone willing to receive His offer of chesed (grace/mercy) and redemption. It's not the healthy who needed a physician.

BTW, might I suggest changing your handle . . . you indicated that you have put your faith and trust in the Messiah, Murdering Father hardly seems appropriate. New creation and all that, if you get my meaning . . . perhaps Forgiven Father.

What possible hope would there be for any of us if we were left to perish under the weight of our sins which testify against us?

Blogger Marie July 15, 2015 11:24 AM  

I watched the video all the way through and wanted to do some more research before I passed it on. Planned Parenthood' statement says everything is on the up and up.

If that is true, why the comments about the national office not wanting to be involved? Why the comment about if this was to go to the Supreme Court they would "all be losers"?

Even if we all agree it is likely the video was edited to show PP in the worse light. This warrants an investigation.

Blogger Nate July 15, 2015 11:26 AM  

" I cannot forgive myself, though-the enormity of my act, now that I am a father, stays with me."

Forgiveness is not up to you. You are washed in the blood and clean.

It is called faith my friend. Faith. And Faith... is accepting something you know to be true... in spite of your emotions.

It is emotion that makes you refuse to accept your forgiveness. Have Faith in what you know to be true... and put your emotion away. You will meet your son one day. And it will be a happy day.

Anonymous FP July 15, 2015 11:27 AM  

Full unedited version (almost 3 hours long):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4UjIM9B9KQ

Blogger Owen July 15, 2015 11:28 AM  

David,
I was thinking of the book of Jeremiah when I read about this, though for other reasons.

Blogger A_R July 15, 2015 11:31 AM  

As a former fetus, I highly object to this inhumane treatment to my brethren that cannot defend themselves...

The 'good' doctor is defiantly a credit to her caduceus...

Blogger Rabbi B July 15, 2015 11:31 AM  

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Blogger Rabbi B July 15, 2015 11:32 AM  

@David, @Owen . . .

Psalm 139 often comes to mind as well . . .


For you created my inmost being;
you knit me together in my mother’s womb.

I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
your works are wonderful,
I know that full well.

My frame was not hidden from you
when I was made in the secret place,
when I was woven together in the depths of the earth.

Your eyes saw my unformed body;
all the days ordained for me were written in your book
before one of them came to be.

How precious to me are your thoughts, G-d!
How vast is the sum of them!

Were I to count them,
they would outnumber the grains of sand—
when I awake, I am still with you.

Blogger David-093 July 15, 2015 11:32 AM  

"David,
I was thinking of the book of Jeremiah when I read about this, though for other reasons."

I know what you mean. Jeremiah is the book that pastors tend to avoid.

Blogger Robert What? July 15, 2015 11:33 AM  

in much the same way the Nazis harvested their victims...

I think that even the Nazis would have been repulsed by this.

Blogger njartist July 15, 2015 11:33 AM  

@107. markpower49 July 15, 2015 10:15 AM
As long as more blacks are aborted than being born, abortion is a moral imperative. Why allow demons to infest this country?

No matter how much of a race realist one is, that is a vile statement. As you have judged fit for another, so can the same be judged fit for you: the scales of justice balance.

Blogger David-093 July 15, 2015 11:37 AM  

"It is emotion that makes you refuse to accept your forgiveness. Have Faith in what you know to be true... and put your emotion away. You will meet your son one day. And it will be a happy day."

Amen, Nate.

@Forgiven Father

Your emotions are now tools of the devil to keep you despairing, but the Lord has already forgiven you and has cast your sins away as far as the east is from the west. Your son is in the arms of God, and both are looking forward to the day when they will see you, when sins will be remembered no more and there is joy forever.

Blogger Josh July 15, 2015 11:38 AM  

No matter how much of a race realist one is, that is a vile statement. As you have judged fit for another, so can the same be judged fit for you: the scales of justice balance.

Amen

Blogger David-093 July 15, 2015 11:39 AM  

"No matter how much of a race realist one is, that is a vile statement. As you have judged fit for another, so can the same be judged fit for you: the scales of justice balance."

The race-realist argument about abortions getting rid of blacks is positively revolting. So they hate blacks because they're violent but then they decide to have doctors murder their children before they've even done anything? And that's supposed to make these people more moral? What. the. fuck.

Anonymous Educated and Informed July 15, 2015 11:40 AM  

Get informed please!!

Planned Parenthood "Sting" Video Is Yet Another Right-Wing Nothingburger http://mojo.ly/1LiHrz7

Blogger Brad Andrews July 15, 2015 11:40 AM  

No one can rightly claim abortion is just about a "mass of tissue" if body parts are available. Not that the argument was sustainable prior to this revelation, but this leaves me almost speechless.

We are doomed.

Blogger automattthew July 15, 2015 11:40 AM  

I think that even the Nazis would have been repulsed by this.

From an encyclopedia article of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum

Nazi population policy concentrated on the family and marriage. The state encouraged matrimony through marriage loans, dispensed family income supplements for each new child, publicly honored "child-rich" families, bestowed the Cross of Honor of the German Mother on women bearing four or more babies, and increased punishments for abortion.

Blogger Brad Andrews July 15, 2015 11:41 AM  

No one can rightly claim abortion is just about a "mass of tissue" if body parts are available. Not that the argument was sustainable prior to this revelation, but this leaves me almost speechless.

We are doomed.

Blogger Owen July 15, 2015 11:41 AM  

Rabbi,
I was thinking about Jeremiah pleading with his tribe to repent and was met with beatings, threats, false prophets undermining his message from God, etc.

Anonymous BGS July 15, 2015 11:41 AM  

James Okeefes hidden camera videos took down ACORN and Battle Ground TX

If Obama ordered drone strikes against all PP clinics

PP clinics are also a common meeting place for gay youth groups.

Was Jesus gay? Yes but because he stole a car he probably was not the second coming.

Blogger J Melcher July 15, 2015 11:42 AM  

If I may offer a completely OFF TOPIC note:

The Kansas City Royals baseball fans were accused of "stuffing" the ballot for nominating players for the American League All-Stars game this year. The KC fans used the dastardly trick of reading and following the rules...

The game is over. The "objective" reporters of the "neutral" ESPN sports media now concede that the KC nominees made a fair contribution to their side's victory in the annual contest.

Any similarity between baseball's All Stars and SF's Hugo process is entirely inferential.

Blogger David-093 July 15, 2015 11:43 AM  

@Maleducated and Uninformed

Nobody's buying it, you Soros lackey. We were against baby-murder loooong before this video came out.

Blogger ScuzzaMan July 15, 2015 11:47 AM  

Phantom26d;

Everyone wants to change the world but no one thinks of changing himself.

What I did, when single, was had very frank conversation with any woman I had sex with, on my opinions about murder (ie abortion is definitely included in my definition) and what I would do to anyone who murdered one of my children, born or unborn.

I cannot stop everyone but some things I can avert and some I can influence.

I might have freaked a few "modern women" out and I missed a little variety on occasion, but I stand quite confident that every child of mine is still alive, which is worth a lot more to me.

Anonymous gk July 15, 2015 11:47 AM  

"For Carthage fell because she was faithful to her own philosophy and had followed out to its logical conclusion her own vision of the universe. Moloch had eaten his children." - Chesterton

Blogger David-093 July 15, 2015 11:47 AM  

@ Josh

"If Obama ordered drone strikes against all PP clinics and declared them enemy combatants, I would pardon him for everything else he did while in office."

He would be taking a page out of King Jehu of Israel's book, where he gathered all the Baal-worshippers into one spot for what they thought was a sacrifice and then slaughtered them.

I'd apologize for everything bad I ever said about Obama if he did that.

Blogger Owen July 15, 2015 11:48 AM  

David,
Precisely. The point he thinks he makes is, "See, the baby killers are being misrepresented as being more horrific than the baby-killers they are!"

Just skimming right over the killing of babies. Because the slope has already given way on baby killing.

Anonymous Spooner July 15, 2015 11:48 AM  

"I think there should be a online database of women who has Divorce Rape/False Accusations., divorce-raped their husbands, made false rape accusations:"

I have three candidates for the database:
1. My Mother: Divorce Rape/False Accusations.
2. My Ex-Wife: Divorce Rape/False Accusations.
3. An Ex-Girlfriend: Abortion.

I am a Sigma, so my contempt for the wimminz has been more than verified by the three special snowflakes mentioned above.

Blogger Rabbi B July 15, 2015 11:49 AM  

@Owen

Yes, well, you know . . . a prophet in his hometown and all that . . .

Blogger rycamor July 15, 2015 11:50 AM  

65. Owen July 15, 2015 8:45 AM

"A Modest Proposal" was supposed to be satire.

Eating food purchased with the profits from murdered babies is only one step removed.


When Franky Schaeffer published his modern version of A Modest Proposal in 1984, which included pretty much everything we are now finding out about, he figured it would be obviously recognized as pure satire. It was such over-the-top hyperbole. No way our country would ever actually pursue such ideas... back in 1984...

But, he did recall, right after publishing it, a couple unsettling comments he got from extreme lefties who didn't grok that the book was satire, and contacted him to commend him on his "brave" stance.

Anonymous phantom26d July 15, 2015 11:50 AM  

"Alexamenos"

Thanks for the feedback.


"@107. markpower49 July 15, 2015 10:15 AM
As long as more blacks are aborted than being born, abortion is a moral imperative. Why allow demons to infest this country?

No matter how much of a race realist one is, that is a vile statement. As you have judged fit for another, so can the same be judged fit for you: the scales of justice balance."

Instead of aborting their children, minorities like blacks should just keep reproducing like mindless rabbits until the whole gimmedat welfare system comes crashing down, resulting in predictable riots and looting. Then comes a massive civil war and unprecedented culling of the parasites, followed by the remaining escaping / being deported. The racial memories of their slaughter should ensure that they will never try to invade White countries again.

I'm not a fan of killing, destruction or mayhem, but I don't see an alternative to great bloodshed in the future.

Blogger Owen July 15, 2015 11:51 AM  

Spooner,
Don't forget to add Abortion to ex-wife. It's not like a husband can stop her "choice."

Anonymous Steve Brown VFM#0273 July 15, 2015 11:54 AM  

@93. Nate

Yours is the comment of the day. Thank you.

Anonymous spooner July 15, 2015 11:58 AM  

Spooner,
Don't forget to add Abortion to ex-wife. It's not like a husband can stop her "choice."

Ah yes, I as the husband and the same went for my father, were jettisoned or aborted from the family because we all know how important a snowflake's 'choice' is. Our crimes, we stood up to them. But in the end my Father raised me, and I raised my twin sons, so efff the stupid grrrrls, they made their beds and they can lie in the heap of dung they created.

Anonymous Spooner July 15, 2015 12:05 PM  

@93. Nate


I second # 173. Steve Brown VFM#0273.

Christ is Life, as The Father resurrected his Son, so the Son can resurrect us from our life of sin, and on the path to everlasting Life.

Blogger Josh July 15, 2015 12:05 PM  

The racial memories of their slaughter should ensure that they will never try to invade White countries again.

Remind me how the blacks got here in the first place?

Anonymous zapbrannigan1 July 15, 2015 12:11 PM  

""For the right, an argument can be made that abortions can reduce entitlement spending and crime. Calling it murder is a bit of a stretch "

That's not the argument of the far right.

Its the argument of Margaret Sanger.... and Hillary Clinton."

@Nate

And Ruth Bader Ginsberg. On record in an interview last year saying just that.

My faith in Christ compels me to forgive her as He forgave even from the cross, but most days all I can muster is suppressed anger.

Blogger Josh July 15, 2015 12:13 PM  

My faith in Christ compels me to forgive her as He forgave even from the cross, but most days all I can muster is suppressed anger.

Even Christ fashioned a whip and cleaned house.

Blogger rycamor July 15, 2015 12:15 PM  

144. Nate July 15, 2015 11:26 AM

" I cannot forgive myself, though-the enormity of my act, now that I am a father, stays with me."

Forgiveness is not up to you. You are washed in the blood and clean.

It is called faith my friend. Faith. And Faith... is accepting something you know to be true... in spite of your emotions.

It is emotion that makes you refuse to accept your forgiveness. Have Faith in what you know to be true... and put your emotion away. You will meet your son one day. And it will be a happy day.

Amen. And it is the height of presumption to think we have the right to hate ourselves when our Heavenly Father has commanded us to love others AS we love ourselves. He forgave Paul, as bloodthirsty a murderer as ever existed, and made him one of his foremost apostles.

Anonymous phantom26d July 15, 2015 12:16 PM  

@Josh

The racial memories of their slaughter should ensure that they will never try to invade White countries again.

"Remind me how the blacks got here in the first place?"

How is that relevant? My point is that blacks / minorities have a tendency to become criminals / savages / parasites who are currently invading Western countries by immigration and natural pop growth. Is there any way to save white countries that doesn't include getting rid of the parasites?

Blogger David-093 July 15, 2015 12:22 PM  

"How is that relevant? My point is that blacks / minorities have a tendency to become criminals / savages / parasites who are currently invading Western countries by immigration and natural pop growth. Is there any way to save white countries that doesn't include getting rid of the parasites?"

How is murdering their children not a far worse crime than any they commit? Are you incapable of thinking for one second about what you're advocating for here?

If it means so much to you, the solution would be to ship them back to Africa if they can't behave. Beyond that, murdering babies is an absolute evil and should not even be considered as an option.

Anonymous Clint 47/73 July 15, 2015 12:25 PM  

"It is emotion that makes you refuse to accept your forgiveness. Have Faith in what you know to be true... and put your emotion away. You will meet your son one day. And it will be a happy day."

Yes, we often keep a very limited view of life. Did you do something horrific? Of course you did. You recognize that. But take a longer view of the situation. You believe in God and you believe in the afterlife. If you are a Christian, welcomed into his eternal paradise upon death and judgment, then you will be able to spend eternity with your child. Did you (and the child) miss out on an earthly relationship? Yes, but it does not even compare to the eternal bond that will exist on that day. That is a beautiful thing to await.

Anonymous phantom26d July 15, 2015 12:32 PM  

@David-093

I am arguing AGAINST abortion, including the babies of minorities.

This is what I wrote:

"Instead of aborting their children, minorities like blacks should just keep reproducing like mindless rabbits until the whole gimmedat welfare system comes crashing down, resulting in predictable riots and looting."

This is all just mental masturbation of course, but stop abortion, let new young parasites sprout up everywhere until there is no more free stuff to sustain them. What do you think will come of this? Will blacks suddenly start becoming productive citizens who can behave in a civilized manner and look after their own children, or widespread looting and riots?

The way I see it, blood will be shed. One way or anohter.

Blogger Nate July 15, 2015 12:42 PM  

"My faith in Christ compels me to forgive her as He forgave even from the cross, but most days all I can muster is suppressed anger."

False.

We are not called to forgive everyone. We are called to forgive those that ask for it.

Blogger ScuzzaMan July 15, 2015 12:43 PM  

Those who repent. And repentance does NOT mean feeling sorry but turning away from sin.

Blogger Nate July 15, 2015 12:44 PM  

"This is all just mental masturbation of course, but stop abortion, let new young parasites sprout up everywhere until there is no more free stuff to sustain them."

They are human beings. They are no parasites. The only reason they are not productive citizens is because we created a giant government institution to make it so. We literally paid them to do so. We replaced black fathers with government checks.

And now we complain that blacks aren't fathers.

Blogger Nate July 15, 2015 12:46 PM  

"And repentance does NOT mean feeling sorry but turning away from sin. "

no.

It means acknowledging that something you did was sin... and attempting to avoid doing that thing in the future.

Paul struggled with sin. To suggest that Paul was unrepentant is stupid.

Blogger David-093 July 15, 2015 12:57 PM  

"This is all just mental masturbation of course, but stop abortion, let new young parasites sprout up everywhere until there is no more free stuff to sustain them. What do you think will come of this?"

Blacks have been made to be violent and useless by policies of the last fifty years. They can behave themselves with the right incentives and motivations, namely, with a strong father in the home, no government hand-outs for single mothers, and a culture that doesn't tolerate savage behavior. They existed fine before the handouts came along, they can do so again.

"Will blacks suddenly start becoming productive citizens who can behave in a civilized manner and look after their own children, or widespread looting and riots?"

They more or less do that now in the South. Seriously, stormfront, coontown, and sbpdl are not the definitive sources for anything other than black crime. And yes there are a lot of black criminals, but that isn't the entirety of the population. I live in a middle-class neighborhood that's at least a third black and they take care of themselves just fine. It can be done.

"The way I see it, blood will be shed. One way or anohter."

Yes, and it will be the Left that brought it on themselves. Blacks are not going to align against Southern whites in whatever happens.

Anonymous doulos23 July 15, 2015 12:59 PM  

The Carthage comparison is a powerful one. Another is the Biblical nation of Judah (in the Divided Kingdom). God tolerated a lot with His people, but when King Mannaseh promoted child sacrifice to the fires of Moloch and the Baals....God said game over.

Babylon's overwhelming victory over Judah was the "grapes of wrath" that were made up of the sour grapes this people had chosen to pleasure in. Infant sacrifice was an abomination (and it is possible some were even sacrificed not only to pagan idols, but to God Himself in a horrific perversion of worship).

Manasseh and the people of his day offered a lot in fertility rituals to their false gods...but I doubt it ever came close to 30 million...

Anonymous phantom26d July 15, 2015 1:04 PM  

@Nate

"They are human beings. They are no parasites. The only reason they are not productive citizens is because we created a giant government institution to make it so. We literally paid them to do so. We replaced black fathers with government checks.

And now we complain that blacks aren't fathers."

You are right that they are ultimately human beings. But the "we" aspect of your comment is disagreeable. I'd say it was the government, or PTB who did this, not the people. The people may not have opposed this back then, but they will eventually have to face the consequences.

The fact that black fathers were replaced by government checks is true, but I don't think it's the only reason. Are blacks not a people racially inclined to savagery, instead of civilized behavior? Please correct me if I'm wrong, because I'm honestly uncomfortable with this thought.

Part of the reason why I oppose abortion in this case, is that it serves to delay the inevitable conflict between whites and minorities.


@David-093

That is an interesting point, something I had not considered before. But the way Western societies are right now, I don't see handouts stopping anytime soon.

Blogger ScuzzaMan July 15, 2015 1:08 PM  

Nate, who did that?

Look up the etymology of the word. The Hebrew means literally "turn around". Christ updated this to "go and sin no more" but he was saying the exact same thing.

My point was, repentance is not about feelbadz (although feelbadz should be present), but repentance us about stopping.

Sinners who never turn away from their sons but only constantly ask for forgiveness, eventually run out of even the will to turn away.

Blogger bw July 15, 2015 1:10 PM  

and attempting to avoid doing that thing in the future..Paul struggled...

Ginsberg and their ilk, if immoral and un-Christian, would not need to "attempt" anything, but rather rule in the opposite manner than they have been doing. This would be their repentance. No need to conflate non-coercive spirituality with material rule and coercion, and certainly no need to proffer that such *worse* sins cannot be put away.
To whom much is given, much is required.

Blogger ScuzzaMan July 15, 2015 1:11 PM  

Typos: us/is, sons/sins

Anonymous Ain July 15, 2015 1:12 PM  

"grey enlightenment: "an argument can be made that abortions can reduce entitlement spending and crime. Calling it murder is a bit of a stretch"

An argument can be made that gunning down people in the welfare line can reduce entitlement spending and crime. Calling it murder is a bit of a stretch.

Blogger ScuzzaMan July 15, 2015 1:13 PM  

Nate

Don't mistake my point fit an argument on perfection; it's not.

Anonymous redsash July 15, 2015 1:15 PM  

Murdering father: Our Lord loves that 15 year old child as much as he loved your unborn child. You sound as repentant as any sinner that I've ever heard repent. You sound like you believe in hell, I'm assuming that you also believe in heaven, God, and Jesus. Are your sins worse than David's who committed adultery and murdered his most loyal soldier? Are your sins worse than the Apostle Paul's? Paul says they are not. You have confessed, you have repented, believe in Jesus as the Son of God , resurrected so that you might have eternal life. Contact his shed blood, his grace, in the waters of baptism, have all your sins washed away, arise a new creation in Christ Jesus. Your sins will be removed from God as far as the east is from the west. And when your days here end, there will be someone on the other side that says welcome home daddy.

Blogger Curtis July 15, 2015 1:15 PM  

Yeah, but what about Iran? USA! USA! USA!

America. We are up to our eyeballs in stinking crap on our own porches while we get on our toes to look over that stinking crap, to look at the turd on our neighbors porch. Americans will send their sons and daughter thousands of miles away to sweep others porches, yet will not lift a finger to sweep their own. Because, we are exceptional. We are USA. And, G-d bless America.

I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever. - Thomas Jefferson

Blogger ajw308 (#98) July 15, 2015 1:18 PM  

is sufficient to prove that America is not the New Rome it once fancied itself, but rather, the New Carthage
Given the homosexual cadre in our top level of leadership, there are echos of Berlin.

Blogger bw July 15, 2015 1:22 PM  

black fathers were replaced by government checks

Hey! I ain't fallin' for 'dat banana in da tailpipe shit again, awright!?

Blogger bob k. mando July 15, 2015 1:22 PM  

7. Mint July 15, 2015 6:49 AM
This is one of baffling things Americans (or westerners) do. They will defend animal's right and condemn people who eat dog as the worst type human can be for example but baby's life is disposable.



that derives directly from the Cultural Marxist ideologies that run our colleges and media.

see such ethical luminari .... uh, clowns as Peter Singer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Singer

learn from our sins. do NOT allow these people power or influence in your country.


54. ZhukovG July 15, 2015 8:20 AM
We pass out voting guides when we should evangelize. We idolize the military even as they slaughter civilians in our name. We allow the blood soaked Stars and Stripes to desecrate our houses of worship.
...
Note to my fellow Roman Catholics;


just raising my hand to acknowledge that the Baptists and Prots are just as guilty of this.


88. Murdering Father July 15, 2015 9:37 AM
I was 15 when I paid 110 dollars to murder my own child. Abortion, was legal, I was scared, she was pregnant, and the adults had left the room.
...
I often wonder what Hell will be like.




brother, this need not be.


130. Guitar Man July 15, 2015 11:00 AM
Wow, Vox is full of trolls lately.



you notice how they ALL revel in the murder of fetuses?

quite instructive, that.




119. Laughing@You July 15, 2015 10:38 AM
Was Jesus gay?



SJWs never, EVER stop lying.

until they admit that they can't think of anything better to do than having sex with Jesus.
"VICE: Was Jesus Christ gay?
Bob Shore-Goss: I would hope he is. I would project that he is. For my own spirituality, I would love to jump into bed with Jesus
."




158. automattthew July 15, 2015 11:40 AM
and increased punishments for abortion.


just so long as we remember that the Nazis were incredibly serious about the whole genetic purity thing.

the FIRST victims of Nazi death programs were the defective *aryan* infants, who were put down.

the Nazis were are about the Utilitarian justification.

Blogger David-093 July 15, 2015 1:24 PM  

"The Carthage comparison is a powerful one."

Yeah, and what happened to Carthage? God used the Romans to exterminate them, sowed the ground with salt, and sold the inhabitants into slavery. 600 years of child sacrifice before they were wiped off the face of the Earth. They may have racked up a body count equal to America in that time.

God's justice cannot sleep forever.

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