Friday, July 17, 2015

Did I miss anything?

The eight steps of SJW Attack:
  1. Identify Weakness
  2. Point-and-Shriek
  3. Isolate and Swarm
  4. Reject and Transform
  5. Press for Surrender
  6. Appeal to Authority
  7. Show Trial
  8. Victory Parade
Step 4 means when they reject the apology offered and transform it into evidence for the prosecution. Obviously not every SJW attack involves each and every step, as a resignation at step 3 or step 5 will jump right to step 8, but that's what the full process looks like.

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Blogger Ron Winkleheimer July 17, 2015 11:03 AM  

Apparently your previous post has disappeared for some reason.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer July 17, 2015 11:03 AM  

Apparently your previous post has disappeared for some reason.

Anonymous Leonidas July 17, 2015 11:05 AM  

Disqualify disqualify disqualify.

Blogger Allan Davis July 17, 2015 11:11 AM  

Assuming "isolate and swarm" includes convincing the "reasonable" enemies or neutrals to dissociate from the target, or even join in the attack...? As in "you sad puppies really need to separate yourselves from those rabid ones."


Blogger J Carlton July 17, 2015 11:12 AM  

That's the way it's always worked. It worked that way in the Soviet Union:
It worked that way in the French revolution. SJWs are always on the hunt for the diverse so that they can squash ideas that they can't stomach.

Anonymous IOU July 17, 2015 11:12 AM  

Pretend to get "death threats"

Blogger Salt July 17, 2015 11:12 AM  

Alinsky's Rules for Radicals, SJW style.

Blogger David-093 July 17, 2015 11:13 AM  

9. Declare "the job still isn't finished".
10. Find a target and their crime, lie if need be.
11. Press for government/media action to "correct this problem".

Blogger Quadko July 17, 2015 11:13 AM  

Step 0: Victory Parade / Assumption of victory before debate/war begins (if objections arise, continue to step 1, otherwise continue at step 8.)
Step 9: Drop issue, mob next issue - but complain about "settled" and "from time immemorial" if this issue comes up again

More for humor than help, I admit!

Anonymous IOU July 17, 2015 11:13 AM  

Call in reinforcements from Mainstream Media

Blogger David-093 July 17, 2015 11:13 AM  

"Pretend to get "death threats""

Send self actual death threats. They're depressed and miserable so they're not really lying.

Blogger Student in Blue July 17, 2015 11:14 AM  

That's better expressed as
9. Repeat ad infinitum

Anonymous IOU July 17, 2015 11:15 AM  

Step 9... Humiliate and shoot any survivors

Anonymous Anonymous July 17, 2015 11:16 AM  

Step one is create victims. This is always step one for any authoritarian. Also a note should be placed added that the Victory Parade always occurs whether their efforts were successful or not.

Anonymous Not Theodore Dalrymple July 17, 2015 11:16 AM  

“Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.” – Theodore Dalrymple

Blogger Student in Blue July 17, 2015 11:16 AM  

Pretending to get "death threats" I think would fall under 4., as it's fabrication of evidence when there isn't even any material to transform in the first place.

Anonymous Whitey McWhite July 17, 2015 11:17 AM  

I think that's right and the steps shouldn't be added to.

The appeal to pity is another factor. The social justice warrior whines about how he is being oppressed and marginalized while he takes your job. He cries a hundred fake tears and demands a thousand dollars in compensation for emotional pain for each of them. But that is not a step; it's not a stage that begins at a time and ends at a time and is not present outside those flags. "Pity me! (while I persecute you)" is an intractable characteristic of social justice warrior aggression, so it does not belong on the list.

Blogger David-093 July 17, 2015 11:17 AM  

Seven steps to the conservative response to SJW attack:

1. Panic.
2. Apologize.
3. Apologize again.
4. Grovel, publicly if need be.
5. Promise to do better next time.
6. Resign.
7. Live a brokenn, beaten down existence.

Blogger Moor July 17, 2015 11:18 AM  

The wording on point 1 accepts more than it needs.

I would suggest instead, "Identify a Violation".

To wit, SJWs will attack points of strength also, given that they are incapable of acknowledging that their opponents have any such points, and that they are similarly incapable of seeing their own weaknesses. For these reasons, they presume themselves to always be attacking from a position of strength.

I suppose, then, if you are writing these rules from their perspective, then "weakness" is the choice, but if part of the point is to strengthen the "SJWs always lie" meme, then I believe "violation" is better.

Blogger Danby July 17, 2015 11:18 AM  

Disqualify is the response when you present an effective argument. It's.not really part of the attack.
"Ignore the fact that he just devastated my critique! He's an Unperson!"

Blogger VD July 17, 2015 11:18 AM  

Assuming "isolate and swarm" includes convincing the "reasonable" enemies or neutrals to dissociate from the target, or even join in the attack...?

Yes. Let me clarify and point out that I am not looking to add more steps unless they are necessary and regularly appear as part of the observable attack process. The idea is not to demonstrate that you can think of something that might be tangentially relevant, but if there is something substantive that needs to be there.

Pretending to get death threats is not part of the usual SJW attack process.

Blogger Daniel July 17, 2015 11:18 AM  

"Press for Surrender" has an apt double meaning. That is usually when the libelous talking points mysteriously appear simultaneously in the media.

Blogger David-093 July 17, 2015 11:19 AM  

"That's better expressed as
9. Repeat ad infinitum "

Only for the infantry. The higher ups always have to take it to the next level, which usually involves more extreme demands and calls for some new law. 9 onward is that.

Blogger VD July 17, 2015 11:19 AM  

I would suggest instead, "Identify a Violation".

That's probably better, yes.

Blogger Moor July 17, 2015 11:19 AM  

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
~C.S. Lewis

Anonymous GreyS July 17, 2015 11:20 AM  

When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself.

Absolute rubbish.

Caitlyn Jenner

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer July 17, 2015 11:23 AM  

@Not Theodore Dalrymple

Thus the insistence that we call people who have a penis (or had one, but had it amputated) women and that we assent to the risible lie that Bruce Jenner looks hot dressed as a woman.

Blogger Rantor July 17, 2015 11:24 AM  

For 1. I was thinking "Feign Offense"

Blogger Jack Ward July 17, 2015 11:24 AM  

And, thus, the work for the sjw manual progresses. We are informed; we are enlightened; and, we are wondering why these people don't go out and get some sort of decent life.
If the world goes down, like the novel Victoria; or that Poul Anderson novel in There will be War 4, what the hell are they going to do? Just die?

Anonymous NorthernHamlet July 17, 2015 11:26 AM  

I would add at the beginning: bait suspected enemy.

Typical and before identify weakness.

Blogger David-093 July 17, 2015 11:27 AM  

"If the world goes down, like the novel Victoria; or that Poul Anderson novel in There will be War 4, what the hell are they going to do? Just die?"

They'll starve, die of disease, get enslaved, get killed.

So yeah pretty much.

Blogger David-093 July 17, 2015 11:29 AM  

"I would add at the beginning: bait suspected enemy. "

That's best covered under Identify a Violation. Remember, Brendan Eich had donated money years before the SJW attack actually occurred. They were looking for something to be outraged over and to get him thrown out.

Blogger Steveo #238 July 17, 2015 11:33 AM  

I think you're good on the steps as viewed from an outsider; as I believe this: "Posturing for the Common Good, AKA Moral High Ground" is rightly an sub category for Step 6 as it seeks to establish long term media narrative about the event.

But I think entryism is a necessary topic as a precursor for the insider (attacks from w/in the organization) perspective. So, FWIW, step 0.1 in that case would be: Infliltrate

Anonymous NorthernHamlet July 17, 2015 11:36 AM  

That's best covered under Identify a Violation.

I disagree. Identifying isn't the discovery process and assumes something tangible already exists in the past. Baiting is the dishonest way they create what they're looking for more tangibly. SJWs do this regularly.

Blogger Rabbi B July 17, 2015 11:45 AM  

". . . but that's what the full process looks like."

Where have we seen this before?

1. Identify Weakness

The chief priests and the whole Sanhedrin were looking for false evidence against Jesus so that they could put him
to death. But they did not find any, though many false witnesses came forward. Finally two came forward and declared,
“This fellow said, ‘I am able to destroy the temple of God and rebuild it in three days.’”

2. Point-and-Shriek

"Then the high priest tore his clothes and said, “He has spoken blasphemy! Why do we need any more witnesses? Look, now you have heard the blasphemy. What do you think?” “He is worthy of death,” they answered.

3. Isolate and Swarm

Then the governor’s soldiers took Jesus into the Praetorium and gathered the whole company of soldiers around him . . . then they knelt in front of him and mocked him. “Hail, king of the Jews!” they said. They spit on him, and took the staff and struck him on the head again and again.

4. Reject and Transform

“What shall I do, then, with Jesus who is called the Messiah?” Pilate asked. They all answered, “Crucify him!” “Why? What crime has he committed?” asked Pilate. But they shouted all the louder, “Crucify him!” “We have a law, and according to that law he must die, because he claimed to be the Son of God.”

5. Press for Surrender

Then the high priest stood up and said to Jesus, “Are you not going to answer? What is this testimony that these men
are bringing against you? . . . . “Do you refuse to speak to me?” Pilate said. “Don’t you realize I have power either to free
you or to crucify you?”

6. Appeal to Authority

“If you let this man go, you are no friend of Caesar. Anyone who claims to be a king opposes Caesar . . . . “We have no king but Caesar,” the chief priests answered.”

7. Show Trial

Once more Pilate came out and said to the Jews gathered there, “Look, I am bringing him out to you to let you know that I find no basis for a charge against him.”

8. Victory Parade

Those who passed by hurled insults at him, shaking their heads and saying, “You who are going to destroy the temple and build it in three days, save yourself! Come down from the cross, if you are the Son of God!”

“He saved others,” they said, “but he can’t save himself! He’s the king of Israel! Let him come down now from the cross, and we will believe in him. He trusts in God. Let God rescue him now if he wants him, for he said, ‘I am the Son of God.’” In the same way the rebels who were crucified with him also heaped insults on him.

Victory parade? Yeah, the celebration lasted no more than three days. Truth will always get the last word.

VD proves once again that there is truly nothing new under the sun. It's an old playbook, the oldest on record. These people make lies their refuge, hate the truth, and hate its adherents even more so.

“Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me [the Truth]. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets [great defenders and proclaimers of the truth] who were before you."

What a great time to be alive!

Blogger Student in Blue July 17, 2015 11:47 AM  

I disagree. Identifying isn't the discovery process and assumes something tangible already exists in the past.

SJWs assume the unperson has something tangible already existing in the past, because the unperson has badthoughts, and my oh my doesn't everyone have skeletons in their closet thinks the SJW.

If identifying isn't the discovery process, just what *is* identifying then?

Anonymous GreyS July 17, 2015 11:48 AM  

I'll slightly change my book blurb to: "The Most Lied-About Book Of The Year"

Blogger VD July 17, 2015 11:48 AM  

For 1. I was thinking "Feign Offense"

That and baiting both fall under "Identify Violation". If they can't find one, they will create one, but they prefer it when the target hands them something they can use. One might even describe it as "Locate or Create Violation".

Blogger VD July 17, 2015 11:49 AM  

That's excellent, Rabbi B. I will use that example, if you don't mind.

Blogger DBSFF July 17, 2015 11:51 AM  

While "point-and-shriek" is undoubtedly one of the initial steps, it so very often accompanies steps 3 through 8---sometimes even after the victory parade.

Blogger David-093 July 17, 2015 11:54 AM  

@Rabbi B

That's really good.

Blogger Rabbi B July 17, 2015 11:55 AM  

" . . . if you don't mind."

Of course not. :)

Blogger Noah B #120 July 17, 2015 11:57 AM  

Just depends on how much you want to break it down. "Identify weakness" could include quite a lot, including searching for a potential target, probing for weaknesses at various possible targets, and assessing target responses to probe for indications of a potential target's softness.

After the victory parade step, SJW's are much more aggressive about retaliating against those who do not recognize their perceived victory. So a 9th step that includes retaliation and suppression of dissent is probably warranted, because that happens practically every time. It is this follow-through that makes SJWs so insidious.

Anonymous Spooner July 17, 2015 11:58 AM  

Looks exactly like a "SHIT TEST", and some wonder why wimminz and teh wimminz with dicks are treated with justifiable contempt.

Anonymous Jack Amok July 17, 2015 12:07 PM  

Pretending to get death threats is not part of the usual SJW attack process.

Right, it's just an optional tactic that can be used in the "point and shriek" and "appeal to authority" steps.

I agree about changing "Identify Weakness" to "Identify a Violation". I think that identifying weakness is the decision point after step 2.

1 - Identify a Violation
2 - Point and Shriek
2x - Evaluate response, if weakness identified, proceed to step 3, otherwise return to step 1 and pick a new target.

Blogger ajw308 (#98) July 17, 2015 12:07 PM  

Ask for "Rational dialog" fits in there somewhere.

Blogger RobertDWood July 17, 2015 12:08 PM  

@rabbi b, that is excellent. I'll be reading through that again.

Blogger Chiva July 17, 2015 12:11 PM  

The first 4 steps remind me of the 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers'.

Anonymous Jack Amok July 17, 2015 12:13 PM  

or alternately for the obsessive SJWs, if no weakness identified, return to step 1 and find a new violation for the same target. This is how Vox accumulates so many adjectives from the Scalzies. Sort of like campaign ribbons for repelling various assaults.

Anonymous smedley butler July 17, 2015 12:16 PM  

"Reject and Transform"

This is why everyone hates the lot of GOP candidates and has an appreciation for Donald Trump. He does not apologize, and that's what everyone wants to see from candidates.

Anonymous ZhukovG July 17, 2015 12:17 PM  

God bless you Rabbi, that was an excellent illustration.

Anonymous Anonymous July 17, 2015 12:23 PM  

After years of arguing with them and trying to be reasonable. I find there are only a few things I need to remember about them. Destroy them factually and personally. Hurt them, never say you are sorry, no matter how badly you have hurt them. They want to hurt you and will take it to your personal life when they can. When you treat them respectful, they treat that as a weakness. Remember that they are scorpions looking for a stupid turtle.

Anonymous smedley butler July 17, 2015 12:23 PM  

Rabbi B, that is brilliant.

"Yet no one spoke openly of Him for fear of the Jews." - John 7:13

Anonymous SJB July 17, 2015 12:25 PM  

Perhaps #3 is “Recruit, isolate, and swarm”.
Rabbi B—Thank you.

Blogger Cecil Henry July 17, 2015 12:25 PM  

The same spirit, and the same agenda that turned Russians into KULAKs brings you this menace.

All of this, ALL of it is completely analogous to the terror and insanity of the USSR. Social justice not ‘working’, equality not ‘achieved’, outcomes not equitable??? The cause is obvious: WRECKERS.

Those evil wreckers. Just like the show trials of the 1930’s. Can’t draw money from a stone, or move 10 million tons of earth/day with a pickup truck.
The cause???

Of course, all those BAD attitudes of WRECKERS (or racists, sexists, homophobes, capitalists…)!!!

And the SJW elite are so smug. They are just a re-run, derivative imitation of the evil, bullying Soviets in new uniforms!!

Blogger buzzardist July 17, 2015 12:32 PM  

Are you looking to identify merely the externally visible steps, i.e., the ones a target of the SJWs sees? Or do you want to identify all the steps that they actually go through?

Because, it if is the latter, there is an awful lot of private complaining, confirmation, reassuring, heightened complaining, seeking out allies, posturing, and so on that happens long before a public identification of anything, and long before public outrage. SJWs are a fearful lot. Unless something has been warren-approved for a long time (and often even if it has since the warren is fickle), few SJWs will risk themselves without making sure that the whole warren is behind them.

A typical conversation may go something like this:

* Did anyone else see this?
* Yes, I did.
* Me, too.
* Did it make anyone else uncomfortable?
* Oh, I wasn't sure whether or not to say anything!
* I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that!
* Is anyone doing anything about this yet?
* Not that I'm aware of.
* Well, what do you think we can do?
* If we do nothing, then these douches are getting away with it!
* We at least need everyone to be aware of what's happening!
* The people over at [insert other SJW-friendly space] would be really interested in this!

Some conversations are a bit more nuanced than this, but until SJWs feel like they've built up enough support for themselves, they won't ever reach any of Vox's stages. Creatures guided by fear need to seek out a lot of reassurance before acting. Most of the time, however, most of these initial behaviors are kept inside the warren, so a victim only gains awareness once a finger is pointed and the shrieking begins.

Anonymous Geoff July 17, 2015 12:35 PM  

Rabbi, were the Jews the original SJWs?

Anonymous Mike M. (vfm #315) July 17, 2015 12:37 PM  


1. Point out how petty the "violation", and by extension the accuser, is.
2. Repeat #1, but apply to point-and-shriek crowd.
3. Repeat #2
4. Offer no apologies. Attack opponent. Demand HIS apology.
5. Never surrender. Demand THEIR surrender.
6. If possible, bring charges against SJW.
7. Trial for crimes of SJW.
8. Display readiness to treat other SJWs in the same manner.

Anonymous The Millennial Falcon July 17, 2015 12:40 PM  

Great stuff Rabbi B.

I only hope the blatant parallels between the SJWs and the Pharisees can engage some of the Christian conscientious objectors of the culture war.

So much of the tendency of American Christians to fire on their own extremists has stemmed from the interpretation of Jesus' militant hostility towards the Pharisees and the apostles venom towards the false teachers as "you can only be mean to your own." When it becomes blindingly obvious that the most rabid Pharisees and false teachers in the modern world are the SJWs, the WWJD crowd will have a green light to grow a pair and fight.

Anonymous RC July 17, 2015 12:41 PM  

9. GOTO 1.

Blogger So Meh July 17, 2015 12:45 PM  

9. Quickly move to new Outrage
10. Rinse and Repeat

Blogger Cecil Henry July 17, 2015 12:51 PM  

@Not Theodore Dalrymple

Your quote is so appropriate.

'When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity.'

See here as well:

STALIN had a bell for this!!!

Blogger Rantor July 17, 2015 1:03 PM  

Daddy Warpig linked to John Wright's 2010 article on SJWs and PC:

Ending quote summarizes it best: Man will not be sane unless Political Correctness is slain

Blogger Rantor July 17, 2015 1:07 PM  

VD if you haven't read John Wright's column above, it has a lot of applicable meat.

Anonymous Joe July 17, 2015 1:10 PM  

@ 58. Anonymous Mike M. (vfm #315)

Good advice. Indeed, a version of your recommended countermove has been applied successfully, real world, to counter an SJW attack. See this. Make sure to read the background note.

Anonymous Poli_Mis July 17, 2015 1:14 PM  

How about the wholesale manufacturing of 'proof' that they create to support their positions?

Anonymous Anonymous July 17, 2015 1:20 PM  

I would suggest instead, "Identify a Violation".

That's probably better, yes.

Yes it is, because it addresses the NML between entry and entryism. Janis described well the phenomenon of groupthink, and SJWs will absolutely agree to any badthink, if it is a route to opening groupthink.

Manoeuvering for the battflefield.

Anonymous Donn #0114 July 17, 2015 1:30 PM  

Perhaps add "Change History" at the end or "Write History" as a way to cement that particular victory? Maybe "Erase History" to memory hole the event and ensure that people believe 'things were always this way'?

Looks great, Vox. Rabbi B nailed the definitive example to use.

These tactics are the same as those used two thousand years ago. What more proof do we need that the SJW are working for the Enemy? Of course, his tactics are as effective as ever.

Vox - Are you going to be offering a way to counter the Enemy's playbook?

Anonymous Spooner July 17, 2015 1:35 PM  

Carthage Attacks: Via Salon Planned Parenthood slaughtering humans for profit is a hoax and proves right wing extremists have no qualms about destroying peoples lives.

Anonymous Musashi #0350 July 17, 2015 1:42 PM  

Even before the SJW proceeds to identify a violation, he starts every day with a commitment to seek out situations, words, deeds, etc that he can exploit to further his depraved agenda. So the first step might be "wake up and begin the hunt".

Anonymous Donn #0114 July 17, 2015 1:45 PM  

Spooner, not sure if they want to keep this in the public eye. When people are confronted with the reality of abortion most are disgusted.

I would ask Salon, 'How does that destroy anyone's life' if it really a hoax and no money is paid for the babies' body parts nor are they harvested in such a way as to preserve those that are paid for?

On the other hand if they are actually paying for the body parts of babies. Why don't they deserve for their life to change? Actually any change would be to the perpetrators' benefit (even jail) because millstones and the deep blue sea is a pretty awful fate.

Blogger Cataline Sergius July 17, 2015 1:47 PM  

@Rabbi B

5. Press for Surrender

That was the interesting thing about Pilate. He was clearly a student of Orwell, long before there was an Orwell.

The only independent record of the man is the writings of Flavius Josephus. A much different and utterly ruthless man appears there.

When the council of Nicaea was held, there appears to have been some pressure in place to produce a narrative somewhat sympathetic to Roman authority.

Blogger ScuzzaMan July 17, 2015 1:49 PM  

The classic phrase for Step 1 is:

"Take Unbrage"

(Since SJWs always lie it really ought to be "Fake Umbrage", but I have a weakness for classical language, do I'd stick to the original. )

Anonymous Isidore the Farmer July 17, 2015 1:51 PM  

The transition from 1 to 2 might vary depending on the condition of the weakness.

Example: Gay marriage proponents can now point and shriek at Christians, but they had to spend decades asking for dialogue, neutrality, etc. Don't let the lack of shrieking result in dropping guard enough to allow entryism.

I'm thankful for your work on this. Guys like me need guys like you to help us realize it is healthy and good (and fun) to fight back, even if we don't naturally possess the same personality traits.

Anonymous Anti-Dentite July 17, 2015 1:59 PM  

"my gay marriage won't affect your church..."


Churches refusing to perform same sex marriages may be denied liability insurance

Blogger JACIII July 17, 2015 2:03 PM  

Very useful and appropriate analog, Rabbi B.

Anonymous Whitey McWhite July 17, 2015 2:10 PM  

Consider this illustration of social justice warrior aggression, in which a higher class social justice warrior filmed himself harassing a working class white woman who was obliged to be nice and couldn't talk back: Liberal Tries To Ruin Chick-fil-A By Accepting Free Water.

1. Identify Weakness is obvious. There is no immediate violation, rather a victim is selected for her vulnerability. (As in the Memories Pizza case and many others.)

2. Point-and-Shriek is apparent, though this form of cruelty is not quite what the "Point-and-Shriek" label would make you think of. (But it's hard to find a better label.)

And then, famously, things went wrong. :)

Anonymous BGS July 17, 2015 2:14 PM  

Pretending to get death threats is not part of the usual SJW attack process.

Claim to be mentally raped.

Carthage Attacks: Via Salon Planned Parenthood slaughtering humans for profit is a hoax

I hope they follow the Brietbart model and release new videos after the first ones are denounced.

Example: Gay marriage proponents can now point and shriek at Christians

They are wanting to go after the tax exempt status of churches that don't perform gay marriages.

Blogger Rabbi B July 17, 2015 2:15 PM  

" A much different and utterly ruthless man appears there. '

Even without the writings of Josephus, we must ask ourselves what kind of a man unequivocally and emphatically declares the innocence of another and yet condemns that innocent man to death anyway? Such a man can sanctimoniously wash his hands all he wants, it changes nothing and reveals everything.

This is nothing less than the basest treachery and unworthy of our sympathy.

Anonymous Donn #0114 July 17, 2015 2:28 PM  

BGS - There is no way PP or Salon want to keep this dialogue going. I'd be stunned if by the end of the month snopes declares this to be a hoax and that no body parts go anywhere but to medical donation or some such lie.

Anonymous Spooner July 17, 2015 2:31 PM  

@ 77. Whitey McWhite

Liberal Tries To Ruin Chick-fil-A By Accepting Free Water.

I think Douch Wad is his middle name ;;))

Anonymous BGS July 17, 2015 2:34 PM  

BGS - There is no way PP or Salon want to keep this dialogue going

You mean that SJWs wouldn't try to disqualify at least for their base. The base college feminist will believe its a hoax if told. ACORN disqualified Brietbart's first video of them when they released better ones later. Leftists still deny the Liqour store robbery video from Ferguson.

Anonymous Whitey McWhite July 17, 2015 2:35 PM  

BGS: "I hope they follow the Brietbart model and release new videos after the first ones are denounced."

Old news: Planned Parenthood responds: Nucatola’s just talking about reimbursements!; Update: Jindal orders LA probe, halt to PP license; Update: Unedited 3-hour video added

Update: Part of Planned Parenthood’s gripe is that the Center for Medical Progress published “a heavily edited, secretly recorded videotape.” News organizations do this all the time, of course, but if you want to see the whole almost-3-hour lunch, CMP has it available for viewing:


And my favorite attempt to explain this so that those in denial get it:

✔ @CWforA

#PlannedParenthood: Unborn babies aren't human, but their organs are. #PPSellsBabyParts #DefundPP
5:36 AM - 15 Jul 2015

296 296 Retweets

You take live, healthy cat organs out of what kind of animal? You take live, healthy dog organs out of what kind of animal? You take live, healthy monkey organs out of what kind of animal? You take live, healthy human organs out of what kind of animal?

It disgusts me that people pretend to find this difficult to understand.

Blogger SciVo July 17, 2015 2:36 PM  

This isn't a step, but I just remembered that a discussion of their use of victim narratives and threat narratives would be useful for the book. They do it all the time, both preemptively and as part of a DARVO.

Blogger ray July 17, 2015 2:40 PM  

Good post and thread. Rabbi B and Dalrymple especially. Despite the justice/equality deke, it's the same old war on God -- on Father and Son, thus on fatherhood generally. And now, of course, even masculinity itself is a crime. Only men like Caitlin, who become women, are acceptable to New Transformed America and World. Only feminist presidents are permitted.

They hate that somebody (anybody, anywhere) is better than themselves, so they gang up and rebel against the Creator, to ensure that they are superior, despite clear evidence they aren't. In Christ's case, they were proven vastly inferior. They cannot accept natural authority because that means they aren't The Bestest and deserving of their greed and empowerment. So they mob-up, accuse, and destroy.

They're gonna lose this one too. Like the pathetic losers that they are. Let them hate that for good measure! and burn in their resentment.

Blogger Travis Kurtz July 17, 2015 2:46 PM  

Douglas Wilson and his unapologetic view towards homosexuality has given great insight into Vox's eight step attack. The two things that I believe stand out the most is SJW's ability to take on the victim role as well as moving the goalposts; Douglas Wilson points this out by saying, "...the totalitarian left has no brakes on their agenda. They have no internal principle that allows them to say “thus far and no farther." You can see many of these eight steps by watching the preview of "Stonewall"

Blogger Crowhill July 17, 2015 2:52 PM  

I would want to put "take offense" in there somewhere.

Anonymous Donn #0114 July 17, 2015 2:58 PM  

BGS - True their base needs to be reassured this is all good.

Read an article in Entertainment Weekly (shut up I was in the Dr's office) that said we needed more positive portrayals of abortion on TV and movies.

Truly sick folks.

Anonymous Whitey McWhite July 17, 2015 3:08 PM  

I get that swatting, for example Brett Kimberlin's swatting of Patterico, is a form of Appeal to Authority.

But what about painting targets on people by identifying them for attack (as in the Proposition 8 campaign), by publishing maps with the homes of gun owners identified, and so on? That's not obviously an appeal to authority, rather it's menace with deniability.

"We're nice people, unlike you gun owners and homophobes, but we can't be held responsible if some wild folks go around to [purported location of George Zimmerman] and do whatever comes into their minds."

That is the way the game is played. The victim is made to feel (and actually is) disrespected, targeted and denied the protection of law.

So that should be an optional part of Isolate and Swarm, if I understand the list correctly.

Anonymous BGS July 17, 2015 3:10 PM  

Part of Planned Parenthood’s gripe is that the Center for Medical Progress published “a heavily edited

One of the greatest examples of this was "druggie mom and thug attack cop" showing up a month later as "cop shots van with kids" with cursing edited out, along with the attack on cop 30+ cut scenes, when if a mere 8 seconds before the shot was shown would have exonerated the cop. They even obfuscated that it was a second cop showing up on the scene that shot . Western Rifle shooters had the original video but I cant find it

With the Ferguson Liquor store robber leftists say he and the hands up witnesses all strong arm robbing the little Asian clerk 10 min before he was shot has nothing to do with how he reacted to the cop. I went to see the movie Shenandoah about an illegal alien killed after (he made death threats to white boys) didndu nutting, and asked why the filmmaker didn't include the 13yo raped by an illegal alien in the town shortly before reported by Lou Doubs, she said "how could that be connected?"

Anonymous Whitey McWhite July 17, 2015 3:12 PM  

85. ray July 17, 2015 2:40 PM...

Thordaddy isn't allowed to say "Supremacy" any more, but it seems to me people still make his main points.

Blogger Lindsay Wheeler July 17, 2015 3:22 PM  

Number 1 needs to be re-worked. Some one suggested "Point out violation".

No. It is "Root out Thought Crime". "Find Political Incorrectness".

SJW is about Political Correctness and they attack anyone that violates the principles of Jewish Messianism and engage in Racism, Discrimination or acts of "Oppression".

Blogger Moor July 17, 2015 4:01 PM  

@Lindsay Wheeler

I almost went on, after suggesting "Identify a Violation", to address the very things you bring up. What I was going to say is that those dynamics are covered. The word "violation" implies that SJWs see themselves as moral arbiters, and invokes the language of "oughtness". In this way, thought-crime and political-correctness are implied.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza July 17, 2015 4:03 PM  

SJW's do not want anyone to have anything. Furthermore, their illogical webs of deception (of which is easily noted) are failed narratives.

Game Over SJWs!

Blogger SciVo July 17, 2015 4:08 PM  

Incidentally, the videos that I linked are by Alison Tieman. She's a valuable ally in the fight against SJWism; very smart, a prominent MRA, and also part of the Honey Badger Brigade that was kicked out of a Calgary comics expo for disagreeing with feminism.

Anonymous Forrest Bishop VFM #0167 July 17, 2015 4:15 PM  

91. Lindsay Wheeler Number 1 needs to be re-worked. Some one suggested "Point out violation".

"Identify a violation"- The violation always includes a Violator and the Violated.
The Violator is R. Scott Peck's Scapegoat- landlords, bourgeois, kulaks, jews, now hetero white men: Gallo's "racist, homophobic, misogynists". As Peck puts it in *People of the Lie*,

"If I could reduce the definition of Evil to a single sentence, it would be this:
Evil is scapegoating." (paraphrased)

21. VD

Pretending to get death threats is not part of the usual SJW attack process.

Not so fast. The explicit, fake death threats we've seen recently spring from an ancient, implicit, purported death threat presented by the Violator aka the Oppressor. The fear of death at the hands of the imagined Violator animates the SJW. It's the primeval boogie man, out there in the night beyond the light of the campfire.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler July 17, 2015 4:18 PM  

You're right Moor, they do search for violations. I would include both because they do attack "Thought Crime". Just to say something, not an act, is criminal.

Anonymous PVB July 17, 2015 4:20 PM  

There must be parallels to the French Revolution with the SJW movement that can be highlighted. The ban everything that doesn't align with your ideology is obvious. We can only hope that eventually it also consumes itself like the proverbial snake swallowing it's tail.

Blogger Danby July 17, 2015 4:23 PM  

For #1, how about "Select Target". because, to my eye anyway, the actual thought crime the target is accused of is really immaterial.

Come to think of it, this really a game at base. The objective is to not just hit a target, it's to unperson the target, to make them a laughingstock, to destroy them.

Successful attacks accumulate points, in proportion to how thoroughly the target is destroyed. An unsuccessful attack can take away your points. Joining in on an attack also garners points, the earlier you join, and the more outspoken you are, the more points you get.

Different targets have different risk/reward values. Rednecks are easy wins, but carry very little benefit to attacking them. You need a large accumulation to get any SJW point. So you have to attack whole states, entire classes of people, Southern Baptists, or everyone in Alabama, for instance. It's possible to turn pro with this approach, but takes a lot of fundraising. C. F. Southern Poverty Law Center. and every single person on Patreon.

Other targets are worth a lot more. GOP politicians for instance, Rick Santorum comes to mind. But they are low risk. The player will suffer very little repercussion for attacking in this category, but if you can do it consistently enough, you can turn pro. C. f. virtually any news organization in the country.

And finally, the high/risk, high reward. You will get ultra extreme bous SJW points if you successfully attack a celebrity on your own side. This is dangerous, because the key to victory is marshaling the mob, and many in the mob will be leery of going after a fellow Leftist, particularly one is a high-stakes player, and already has a built-in mob at their own disposal. The key to this is to come with charges that will gather a huge mob quickly,most especially anti-gay or racist behavior. If you can take out one of these, you can assume celebrity status in the warren, gloat a lot, and will have your own ready army of white knights and shriekers. Your status in the warren will be magnified. Just watch your step, and keep a clsoe eye on your followers. There's always one of them looking for a misstep.

Blogger Groot July 17, 2015 4:24 PM  

Just tactically, 1. "Identify a Violation" is the work of a gossipy cabal. 2. "Point-and-Shriek" always comes from a Blue-Haired-Twink who is calling the mob (the BHT possibly having a pre-formed mob at the ready, her gang). 3. "Isolate and Swarm" is the mechanics of mob formation. This is where an echo chamber is brought to bear, repeating the charges, lies or not.

This is the point where a couple of things are necessary: Brave compadres, and some wins in the bag. If your boss and at least a couple of your cohort have the attitude that they have your back covered, then you're cool. This is really the job of your alphas and your betas (just read that piece, thanks Vox) standing up to this crap.

And, through history, nothing rallies an insurgency like a couple of initial wins. That's why GamerGate and Puppies are so much fun.

Anonymous Geoff July 17, 2015 5:39 PM  

So if we are to use the SJW handbook against them, the first step is to "Identify a Violation". This probably means calling them out for violating their own narrative, which isn't difficult considering they always lie, and that they are the true racists, sexists and bigots.

Blogger Allan Davis July 17, 2015 5:53 PM  

Geoff, I've tried that, on a small scale, and never really gotten anywhere, because "we can point and shriek about how evil they are when they do it, but it's really okay when WE do it, because they're evil."

Yes, I for one am really looking forward to reading this book.


Anonymous 334 July 17, 2015 5:55 PM  

@35. Rabbi B

That's absolutely fantastic. Might be the best thing I've read in a couple of weeks, just in case it hasn't been said half a dozen times in this thread. Way to bring it back down to what really, really matters in the end!

Thank you, sir.

Anonymous Geoff July 17, 2015 5:59 PM  

Good point, Allan. I'm still learning to do it successfully myself but it can be done. We've all seen Vox do it very effectively, for example when he pulls out his Native American card.

Anonymous Donn #0114 July 17, 2015 6:20 PM  

I don't think we can use same weapons as the SJWs. Look at the hugo noms vs the Gallo affair. Hours after the results were in prepared sladerous hit pieces hit several media outlets. Some were so bad they needed to retract but the narrative has never changed. Racist, mysogynist neo nazi homophobes are cheating at the hugo awards.

Gallo publicly called Tor fans and writers every leftist boogyman that exisits. No media no scolding a non apology no acknowledgement at all from MacMillan. they simply won't play by their own rules.

Blogger VFM bot #188 July 17, 2015 6:20 PM  

If Vox's list and observations are correct---and there seems to be broad agreement here that they are---then the obvious next step is to devise a resistance--counterattack-retaliation strategy. Someone had a proposed list up above. More work needs to be done in that area.

We need to develop and systematize a tactical response involving resistance, counterattack, and retaliation against an attempted SJW mob assassination. How, for instance, could Brendan Eich or Tim Hunt have survived and prevailed? How did Phil Robertson do it? How has Rush Limbaugh repeatedly done it?

Blogger Sad Puppy July 17, 2015 6:29 PM  

30. NorthernHamlet

I would add at the beginning: bait suspected enemy.

Typical and before identify weakness.

This is the one part I'm wondering about. From my personal observation over the years, they basically throw shit around and then carefully scrutinize to see what sticks. I think they now refer to it as floating a trial baloon. I suppose this is identifying a weakness. But as someone else pointed out, they don't always go after weakness. It's anything that gets the least traction that they can then apply their hive minds to. I don't believe they are always successful, but that doesn't stop them from furiously trying in each instance.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 17, 2015 6:31 PM  

"but it's really okay when WE do it, because they're evil."

Yep. Someone made a great point here some days back, and I wish I'd saved it, so I could give him credit. But basically: SJWs are able to frame themselves as the victim, even when attacking. An SJW can be attacking you, making false accusations, trying to get you fired -- but the moment you respond in any way, "moderate" bystanders will white knight for the SJW and call you the aggressor, because you don't fit the victim profile at all.

It's as if an old lady in a wheelchair were whacking you in the knees with a baseball bat, and the moment you grab the bat away and say, "Stop it or else!" all the bystanders grab you and say, "Dude, why are you picking on that old lady?"

Except that the old lady probably can't actually hurt you, and you can actually walk away from her. SJWs do actually get people fired and ruin their lives, and many of their victims are unable to get away from them. But moderates don't see that; they only see how pathetic SJWs are and grant them perpetual victim status.

Blogger Sad Puppy July 17, 2015 6:45 PM  

55. Cecil Henry
The same spirit, and the same agenda that turned Russians into KULAKs brings you this menace.

After reading the first part of the Black Book of Communism, I always think this same thing. Everyone goes on and on about Alinsky, but these things were happening in Russia. It's really sad what happened to those people who were thrown into the Kulaks category.

Blogger Danby July 17, 2015 7:32 PM  

Donn #0114

It's true that we don't have access to al the weapons of the SJWs, especially the ones that depend on media and victimhood. They are spectacularly ineffective for us.

We do have one weapong though, that iws completely inaccessible to them.




Blogger W.LindsayWheeler July 17, 2015 7:42 PM  

Donn observes: "they simply won't play by their own rules."

That is why we must shoot them. They are rabid dogs that have become barbarians. They are reprobates extraordinaire. They can not listen to reason, will not abide by even their own laws, will not correct themselves. They will not see "the error of their ways". They are stuck in mass delusion. They are without virtue.

They are so damaged that they can not be "re-educated". This is why America and the West is dead. It's gone. It's over. And they rule. Either the Second Coming or a shooting war (if that happens at all). The Catholics have been fighting this disease since Giordano Bruno thru to the French and Spanish civil wars. We haven't won at all. Burning Bruno only made him a martyr to the cause.

Anonymous Chad July 17, 2015 8:24 PM  

Cail Corishev #108

I've been trying to articulate the same sentiment. When under attack, an SJW is incredibly adept at appearing totally pathetic.

Another tactic I find is that they will find ways to abuse the hell out of any rule they can. It's kind of like playing hockey against players who turn their backs towards you as you're attempting a check, thus assuring a game misconduct should you follow through.

The analogy isn't perfect as the example involves risk of injury. A more precise analogy would be a fight in the following manner.

1. SJW declares a fight
2. Only rule 'no hitting below the belt'
3. Removes your belt and ties it around his forehead
4. Tries to punch you in the groin repeatedly
5. Claims he's honored the rule as you have no belt
6. Complains of any attack you make as his entire body is 'below the belt'

Essentially the only two things that keep SJWs from being completely destroyed is the revulsion we feel when striking something weak and an adherence to the rules of a system they are either gaming or ignoring outright.

Blogger buzzardist July 17, 2015 9:40 PM  

It just occurred to me that there is a step that happens before all of this, without which no violation can ever be identified. SJWs begin by establishing a victim class. As yet, they may not have any specific targets or violations in mind (or maybe they do), but they have to establish some victimized group of people, which automatically also establishes an oppressing class. Once the victimized class is identified, there is long work to build sympathy and support for it, until it becomes clear that violating that class is a big no-no. From there, violations almost create themselves. A mental construct has been created in which anything could be construed as a violation, and SJWs can thus use anything as a basis for their power demands.

Anonymous zen0 July 17, 2015 9:42 PM  

Drudge Claims Gawker apoligized.

Go to step 4

Blogger Cail Corishev July 17, 2015 9:51 PM  

Chad, other than the obvious narcissism, I wonder if that's one reason SJWs love to talk about their problems: their failed relationships, health issues, trips through therapy, etc. Maybe it's all a way of saying, "....and so you can't hit me (back)!"

The impartial observer (giving moderates the benefit of the doubt for the moment) looks at people like Vox, Spacebunny, Milo, and sees people who generally have it together. They may have problems, but they aren't whining about them, and they appear seem to be succeeding in life. On the other side, he looks at Scalzi, Randi Harper, various other whiners, and sees people who appear lucky to make it out of bed in the morning without help. Even those who are winning on points, like Scalzi, seem unsure about it. Surely the latter group couldn't hurt the former.

So it's Marxism, applied to social capital instead of economics: SJWs are the needy and non-SJWs have the means. The observer thinks, "Couldn't you guys who have so much just let the losers win this one? It wouldn't cost you anything you can't easily recoup, and it would mean so much to them." It's a lot like, "Just let your little sister have your toy. No, it's not fair, but she'll stop screaming."

And that might be okay, if SJWs were really as harmless as they pretend to be (and should be), or if one win would satisfy them. But since they can never be satisfied -- because "winning" isn't really what they're after -- and since the nice people in the middle do give them the power to do harm, allowing them one win is one too many.

Anonymous zen0 July 17, 2015 10:05 PM  

115. Cail Corishev

So it's Marxism, applied to social capital instead of economics: SJWs are the needy and non-SJWs have the means. The observer thinks, "Couldn't you guys who have so much just let the losers win this one? It wouldn't cost you anything you can't easily recoup, and it would mean so much to them." It's a lot like, "Just let your little sister have your toy. No, it's not fair, but she'll stop screaming."

Greece vs Germany

Blogger Howard Moon July 17, 2015 10:42 PM  

Quadko at #4 and Buzzardist at #113 make important points. The whole attack sequence depends upon and is intended to validate an existing meta narrative. That narrative is largely, but not exhaustively:"all right thinking people think X" and "no one has the right to offend another".

Then find an expression of "not x" and off you go.

At the end you have clear proof that "x" is the mainstream position. It goes without saying that the original "all right thinking people think x" is vigorously asserted, but without the slightest evidence to support it.

So, not part of the attack process itself, but the arena in which the contest takes place.

Blogger VFM bot #188 July 17, 2015 10:56 PM  

The whole attack sequence depends upon and is intended to validate an existing meta narrative..."all right thinking people think X" and "no one has the right to offend another".

In both instances, the response "We Don't Care" is very effective and succinct. It combines "bullshit" with "fuck off" and "so what?" in a suitably aggressive but rhetorically acceptable way.

Blogger Student in Blue July 17, 2015 11:46 PM  

@Cail Corishev

It's called Cultural Marxism.

Anonymous Anonymous July 18, 2015 12:58 AM  

Step 0 is hypersensitivity in target-detection: The Princess and the Pea as a field guide rather than a sardonic fairy tale.


Anonymous Whitey McWhite July 18, 2015 1:33 AM  

buzzardist: "It just occurred to me that there is a step that happens before all of this, without which no violation can ever be identified. SJWs begin by establishing a victim class."

Social justice warriors don't do that; their betters do. This is work for strategists, not for drones.

The best example of victim class creation is footnote 4 of Carolene Products.

"United States v. Carolene Products Company, 304 U.S. 144 (1938),was an April 25, 1938 decision by the United States Supreme Court. The case is best-known for its famous "Footnote Four", in which the Court established the system of heightened scrutiny for laws targeting "discrete and insular minorities", compared with the lower scrutiny applied in this case for economic regulations."

There may be narrower scope for operation of the presumption of constitutionality when legislation appears on its face to be within a specific prohibition of the Constitution, such as those of the first ten amendments, which are deemed equally specific when held to be embraced within the Fourteenth. . . .

It is unnecessary to consider now whether legislation which restricts those political processes which can ordinarily be expected to bring about repeal of undesirable legislation, is to be subjected to more exacting judicial scrutiny under the general prohibitions of the Fourteenth Amendment than are most other types of legislation. . . .

Nor need we inquire whether similar considerations enter into the review of statutes directed at particular religious . . . or national . . . or racial minorities . . . : whether prejudice against discrete and insular minorities may be a special condition, which tends seriously to curtail the operation of those political processes ordinarily to be relied upon to protect minorities, and which may call for a correspondingly more searching judicial inquiry. . .

This footnote brought about the end of equality under law even as an ideal, and substituted for it the reign of constitutionally protected victim classes such as Jews, as opposed to presumptively oppressive and very much not-protected straight white gentile males.

I don't believe such high-level work belongs in a checklist of typical stages of a social justice warrior attack. It is better to stick to the kind of low-level social justice warrior aggression that people meet every day, and that people need to understand and have answers to.

Anonymous Whitey McWhite July 18, 2015 2:46 AM  

People who get to write Supreme Court decisions, people who got to take part in Vatican II and got to say who became an official victim class in Catholic doctrine, people who got to rewrite the rules of the major Protestant denominations in favor of compassion for defined victims such as homosexuals (at the expense of traditional doctrine and morality) -- people like this may not be the originators of ideas (which often come from intellectual movements discussed by Kevin MacDonald), but they're not people who've lived lives based on "pity me" tactics either. They're far above the sort of non-performing non-entities that forced Brendan Eich out. They have independent power bases and don't depend on flattering and conforming to fellow members of a mob. I don't think people like this can really be called social justice warriors.

Anonymous Joe July 18, 2015 1:36 PM  

@ 105. Donn #0114

"I don't think we can use same weapons as the SJWs."

To the contrary, see the example I linked at 65.

A group attacked by SJWs in the heart of SJW territory countered by outplaying the SJWs at their own game.

That being said, I don't cite the Columbia vets example as a cure-all. Situations differ. I leave it to VD to review the case and glean its lessons for countering SJWs.

More than anything else, the Columbia vets themselves, at least their leadership, were exceptional. Smart, military minds, with backgrounds competing against tougher opponents than SJWs, on the ground in enemy territory, with higher stakes. They were perhaps uniquely suited for the challenge.

While exceptional, they did demonstrate that SJW weapons can be turned on SJWs. But again, circumstances differ. And many people simply are not as capable of taking the fight to SJWs in the heart of SJW territory as those Columbia vets were.

Another reason I like to cite the example is that they didn't stop there. The Columbia vets did better than react defensively. They built upon their victory by spearheading the return of ROTC to Columbia. Today, SJWs are still a powerful presence at Columbia as demonstrated by the Sulkowicz episode. But in the military part of campus culture, the SJWs have been pushed back.

One can dismiss the data point as an outlier, but what others have tried it to the same level as the Columbia vets did it? It appears to me that people who find SJW-style tactics distasteful prefer to dismiss them out of hand. If they have tried, they did so half-heartedly holding their noses, thus self-handicapping them against SJWs who executed SJW-style tactics properly. That's a matter of competition, not possibility.

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