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Tuesday, July 21, 2015

Everyone hates Gawker


Because other than occasionally sending emails to their dwindling pool of advertisers, I pay no attention to Gawker, I completely missed the fact that the Gawker Review of Books addressed the Puppies and the Gallo attack in Gawker's inimitable - and yes, libelous - style back in June.
The Sad Puppies are also closely associated with neoreactionary, Gamergater, and notorious white supremacist Vox Day (he says he’s not a white supremacist, but he also says “Racism is neither a sin nor is it a societal evil. Race-based self-segregation is not only the observably preferred human norm for all races throughout the entirety of recorded human history, it is inevitable,” so go ahead and draw your own conclusions) who both played a part in picking the Sad Puppies nominees and started his own Rabid Puppies slate. Coincidentally, a number of the Rabid Puppies nominees have been published by Day’s obscure, Finland-based publishing house, Castalia House.

“I don’t mind being linked to Vox, because I don’t hate and fear Vox like a little schoolgirl who’s been stung by a wasp,” Torgersen has written.

And that’s who the most powerful publisher in sci-fi apparently decided to appease at the expense of one of its own employees.

But why?

Puppy supporters have been talking shit about Tor from the beginning of their campaign, largely because Tor editors Patrick and Teresa Nielsen Hayden have been openly critical, and were among the first to note that Gamergate and the Puppies were making common cause. In April, Larry Correia, who started and named the original Sad Puppies campaign two years ago, had to tell Puppies supporters to chill out with their attacks on the publisher, because—as Tom Doherty also pointed out—Tor has published Puppy favorites like John C. Wright. Wright rode the Puppies slates to a record-breaking six Hugo nominations this year.

The frenzy started again last week, though, when Vox Day reignited it with a screencap of Irene Gallo’s Facebook comments, calling them “libel.” (He calls a lot of things libel.)
I don't call "a lot of things libel". I simply happen to be libeled on a regular basis by liars in the media at places like Gawker and The Guardian. For example, I'm not a "white supremacist", I am a "red reservationist" who supports the right of my tribe and others to keep our racially segregated reservations established by treaty with the U.S. Federal Government.

If Jay Hathaway opposes the right of Native Americans to retain their racially segregated reservations, then he should come right out and say it. And he should also apologize for libeling me and correct his piece. But I won't hold my breath; Gawker may well be history once Hulk Hogan gets through with them.

And notice classic SJW inversion at work. The Puppy supporters have been "talking shit about Tor" because Tor editor Patrick Nielsen Hayden and FORMER Tor editor Teresa Nielsen Hayden, to say nothing of various Torlings, have been "talking shit" about various Puppies for more than ten years now.

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93 Comments:

Anonymous The Obvious July 21, 2015 6:38 AM  

Q: What is 100 feet long and extremely hard?

A: The Gawker unemployment line.

*Ba dum tish*

OpenID shallowthoughtswithgeoff July 21, 2015 6:45 AM  

Isn't this line:

Gawker may well be history once Hulk Hogan gets through with them.

true about everyone and everything?

Anonymous Boogieman (VFM #240) July 21, 2015 6:45 AM  

What was that line from the movie, "fuck you, pay me"?

Well, I think from now on my response to SJW weenies is "fuck you, I don't care." Bitch and moan and scold and shame. Fuck you, I don't care. The only other reaction from me will be a smile as they burn to the ground.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 21, 2015 6:46 AM  

Which African or Asian country would the editorial staff of Gawker like to see its citizens reduced to a minority and where it would be illegal to protest their genocide?

But then again Gawker is no doubt full behind racialism when the support black lives matter, which is no doubt the left's reversal of the one drop rule into eternity.

Anonymous PhillipGeorge©2015 July 21, 2015 6:51 AM  

It's not the lies of SJW's that bother me. I appreciate your hammering the nail home but I'm much more disturbed by the apparent inoculation to the truth of the zombified masses. Media that lie today and then lie tomorrow should all be economic burnt toast, finished, requiems over.
The bit that upsets is that rigormortis and burial seems to be taking forever.

More people, I hope will get passionate for true truth. When that day comes all the Gawkers will sink like anchors without chains. All the way to the bottom. Nothing to slow their descent to where sun doesn't shine.

Blogger Cataline Sergius July 21, 2015 7:03 AM  

Technical question: What is the best way to view Gawker content but deny giving them the click?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 21, 2015 7:05 AM  

If there is one sane leftist left on Planet Earth I think that person would regret Jon Stewart being deified as the face and intellectual tone setter for the left. Sure Stewartism has been good for Obama, but everyone else is being reduced to Gawker level and that is on a good day, the rest of the left is basically reviving Jim Jones' political theater stunt of the "Crazy Nigger."

Anonymous Heaviside July 21, 2015 7:06 AM  

If these people continue describe Vox Day as a "notorious white supremacist," what words will they have left to refer to such noble heroes as William Luther Pierce? "Big fat poopyhead"?

We can only hope that the jew Nick Denton takes his own life after his noxious "journalism" operation goes down in flames. As if there is anything more dishonourable than the title of "journalist"! Lets be honest about what that word means -- corrupter of hearts and minds.

Blogger VD July 21, 2015 7:07 AM  

Technical question: What is the best way to view Gawker content but deny giving them the click?

Which reminds me.... [changes link to archive].

Anonymous Steve July 21, 2015 7:36 AM  

Jay Hathaway.

Mmmmmm'ladies...

Blogger Josh July 21, 2015 7:42 AM  

Gawker Sites, Ranked.

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Lifehacker
Jalopnik
Deadspin
Gizmodo




Gawker
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Kotaku
Jezebel

Anonymous Difster VFM #109 July 21, 2015 7:45 AM  

Picture in your collective mind dear Minons, the day that Gawker shuts down and get sold off in pieces. Imagine the Twitter tantrums, the Facebook frothing and blog bloviating.

That will be a very good day.

Blogger CM July 21, 2015 8:09 AM  

Only white people aren't allowed to self-segregate.

The anti-racists need to stop being ignoramuses and learn the distinction between self segregation and government backed and forced segregation.

Blogger Nate July 21, 2015 8:13 AM  

when gawker finally dies we should buy it and turn it into an anti-SJW site... then use it as evidence to claim the original gawker founders were huge racist sexist homophobes... since they founded a racist sexist homophobic website.

Anonymous Lulabelle (68) July 21, 2015 8:31 AM  

I clicked Steve's links........thinking surely I could trust Steve!

Nope.

Blogger ScuzzaMan July 21, 2015 8:42 AM  

The Obvious;

Did you perhaps mean dense, rather than hard?

Blogger dash July 21, 2015 8:46 AM  

Reading your blog this year has me feeling like a Londoner hunkered down by the radio mid-1942. After years of chaotic defeats, nightly bombings, regular sinkings... maybe, just maybe the tide is turning.

Anonymous Steve July 21, 2015 8:47 AM  

Lulabelle - Moleo, Moleo! Wherefore art thou Moleo?

Anonymous Roundtine July 21, 2015 8:51 AM  

This played out much like Wrestlemania 1. Now we need a Mr. T rant about Gawker.

Anonymous #358 July 21, 2015 9:11 AM  

Prayers here that God will begin His process of pouring out His vengeance by starting with Gawker.

Blogger Salt July 21, 2015 9:12 AM  

Gawker thinks it can get away with anything. Hoping to see Hogan body-slamming it on the courtroom floor.

Anonymous Soga July 21, 2015 9:22 AM  

It's awesome how Gawker is trying to claim First Amendment protection.

LOL!

I'm just loving it; the same people that worked so hard to erode these protections are now trying to use them against the Frankenstein monster they created?

It's like SJWs never watched monster movies. The monster ALWAYS eats the mad scientist that created it.

Anonymous Takin' a look July 21, 2015 9:52 AM  

O/T Harold Covington's books will no longer be published in the USA.

www.downwithjugears.blogspot.com

Anonymous The Obvious July 21, 2015 9:54 AM  

Did you perhaps mean dense, rather than hard?

That might have been funnier I think. Link below on topic:

Snark Enlightenment Tweet

Blogger Mark Citadel July 21, 2015 10:38 AM  

The airship going down in flames is a wonderful analogy. Who's next on the Yellow Press deathwatch?

Blogger Marissa July 21, 2015 10:54 AM  

Jay Hathaway.

Mmmmmm'ladies...


What is the extreme polar opposite of arousal?

Blogger Sad Puppy July 21, 2015 11:02 AM  

Who's face is on the $5?

I don't think these Gawkers expected to get the "YOU!" Hogan fingerpoint in their direction. Hopefully a giant boot to their face, followed by a huge legdrop is soon to follow.

Anonymous GracieLou July 21, 2015 11:07 AM  

"Hello, I'm Jay Hathaway."
"I'm Buck Melanoma. Moley Russell's wart. Not her wart. Not her wart! I'm... I'm the wart. She's my tumor. My... my growth. My... uh, my pimple. I'm Uncle Wart. Just old Buck "Wart" Russell. That's what they call me, or Melanoma Head. They'll call me that. "Melanoma Head's coming."

Blogger CM July 21, 2015 11:14 AM  

Lulabelle,

Considering the vast majority of girl pics posted by the ilk are revolting, i wouldn't expect any different from gay ilk wrt men :p

Blogger Cee July 21, 2015 11:30 AM  

i wouldn't expect any different from gay ilk wrt men :p
That's not the gay Steve, though, that's the happily married one.

What is the extreme polar opposite of arousal?
My face has frozen into an expression of revulsion and horror, will that do?

Blogger Shimshon July 21, 2015 11:43 AM  

"Who's face is on the $5?"

It's a MAN! Why do you hate women?

Blogger Achillea July 21, 2015 11:59 AM  

their dwindling pool of advertisers

Speaking of that, is there a current list of those remaining?

OpenID malcolmthecynic July 21, 2015 12:15 PM  

"He says he's not a white supremacist, but here's a quote that has nothing to do with white supremacism, so draw your own conclusions."

Anonymous BigGaySteve July 21, 2015 12:39 PM  

Q: What is 100 feet long and extremely hard? A: The Gawker unemployment line.

Q What is 1000 feet long and soft? The group marching as ex boyfriends and Male prostitutes of Nick Denton in NYC PRIDE parade

O/T Harold Covington's books will no longer be published in the USA.

Which books of his would you recommend I start with?

“Racism is neither a sin nor is it a societal evil. Race-based self-segregation is not only the observably preferred human norm for all races throughout the entirety of recorded human history, it is inevitable,”

Don't they know fully quoting like that will have people see the logic behind it.

That's not the gay Steve, though, that's the happily married one.

Perhaps his wife doesn't let him have any pics of good looking women on his computer. Kind of like those men whose wives badly cut their hair.

Blogger M Cephas July 21, 2015 1:36 PM  

"Race-based self-segregation is not only the observably preferred human norm for all races throughout the entirety of recorded human history, it is inevitable"

I'm not sure I agree with this. Race can often be confused for culture, ethnicity, or language. I for one, don't care if a person is the same race as me, if they don't speak English fluently, or have a completely different culture, I am not going to prefer their neighbourhood to somebody who is of a different race, but is more culturally aligned with myself, and is fluent in English.

Thomas Sowell, for example, a black man, is somebody any good American would prefer to have in America, over George Bush, either one.

Anonymous LegallySpeaking July 21, 2015 1:41 PM  

As always, leftists always project.

And it is libelous, despite how leftists try to lie about it. What has been said about Vox is patently untrue, the writers know it is untrue, and yet the writers continue to write the untruths about Vox after learning they were untrue. That's textbook libel, and the fact that Vox is a public figure is no defense here. (Nor is there the parody/mockery defense, as these statements are written as truthful allegations, if snarkily ensconced).

Then again, the day may come when the Supreme Court defines libel as "anything said about leftists they don't like, and nothing more."

And history will laugh.

Anonymous BGS July 21, 2015 1:46 PM  

Thomas Sowell, for example, a black man, is somebody any good American would prefer to have in America, over George Bush, either one

GWB was smart enough to be able to fly jets. Only 2% of pilots are black and they fly desk jobs. Have you ever heard of Regression to the mean? I would rather have the kkk leader David Duke or Cooter Davenport as neighbors than non Asian minorities because of Regression to the mean. Think about how law abiding and secure David Duke must be to avoid having dead black tranny crack hoes dropped off on his property by Holder/Lynch, he also says that gays are victims of Jewish Brainwashing.

Anonymous Laz July 21, 2015 2:13 PM  

"Thomas Sowell, for example, a black man, is somebody any good American would prefer to have in America, over George Bush, either one."

Sure but, where am I going to find my own unicorn?

Blogger Alexander July 21, 2015 2:15 PM  

If Vox is a raging white-supremicist, and if Gawker employs actual journalists , then it should be easy to find proof of the former without admitting to inviting your audience to draw their own conclusions.

Sucks for gawker to be wrong on both counts.

---
Just as allowing abortions in the 'extreme' cases of rape or death of mother inevitably leads to a society where abortion is a right for all women, trying to push a particular black man as the magic negro will inevitably lead to the ghettos we see today.

It's like the fellows who say "I'd rather have 1,000 hardworking Mexicans than those layabout whites!", what they neglect to tell you is that inevitably, each of those 1,000 will have 50 best friends and family that want to come, and then will reproduce a generation that isn't inclined to either kumbayah or remain the silent servant class.

I don't want Thomas Sowell president, because I am an Anglo-Saxon, and I want those with legal authority over which I could be held accountable to be Anglo-Saxons. Just like the Chinese, Mexicans, Iroquois, Turks, Israeli, and Xhosa prefer (when, ironically enough, they also aren't scrambling to be under the rule of an Anglo-Saxon).

Don't give us 'for examples'. Singling out individual number one over individual number two is either hopelessly naive or deliberately disingenuous when discussing policy.

Blogger M Cephas July 21, 2015 2:16 PM  

"GWB was smart enough to be able to fly jets. Only 2% of pilots are black and they fly desk jobs."

I wouldn't be surprised if Thomas Sowell would be smart enough to fly a jet. Not that that really matters. Even though his IQ is probably higher than GWB, which I recall reading was only 118, he is actually a true American.

A 100 IQ true American > A 200 IQ fascist

Anonymous Duke of URL July 21, 2015 2:17 PM  

Y'know, Vox, I am really puzzled. The assorted SJWs keep screaming that you're [condensed to "a Nazi", to save space] - I've read some, although not all of your books. I've been following your blog daily for a while now. I've read a lot of your published (and perfectly clear) opinions. I disagree with some, agree with many.
I do NOT see how the Hell they have managed to come to the conclusion that you are so evil...

Blogger Alexander July 21, 2015 2:21 PM  

Oh, well that's easy.

1. We stand for all that is good
2. Vox disagrees with us
3. Worse, Vox is proud to disagree with us, and keeps doing it after we point out he is disagreeing with us
4. Therefore, Vox celebrates things that are bad.
5. Vox is evil.

Blogger Edward Isaacs July 21, 2015 2:45 PM  

Wow, Vox, I had no idea you were a neoreactionary. I suppose you go in for the divine-right monarchy strain?

Blogger M Cephas July 21, 2015 2:51 PM  

"Sure but, where am I going to find my own unicorn?"

There were lots of them running around in 1776.

Our last two elections show they are mostly dead, regardless of race.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 21, 2015 2:58 PM  

Broadly speaking but I would say the "news" is not to inform but to demoralize as the Soviets wanted it. And it has worked on every group and they are all saying fuck it hold back nothing even the Cuckservatives are throwing in the towel so nobody is going to ride to the rescue of anybody

Anonymous Forrest Bishop VFM #0167 July 21, 2015 3:15 PM  

27. Sad Puppy

I don't think these Gawkers expected to get the "YOU!" Hogan fingerpoint in their direction. Hopefully a giant boot to their face, followed by a huge legdrop is soon to follow.

I defy you, ye wannabe world-builders, to come up with a scene as good as this one.

Anonymous Ain July 21, 2015 3:36 PM  

My favorite thing about this is that Gawker lost their liability insurance when they refused the court order to take the video down. I can imagine them saying "Wait! You can't! Noooo!" Idiots.

Anonymous BGS July 21, 2015 3:43 PM  

"I wouldn't be surprised if Thomas Sowell would be smart enough to fly a jet."

Flying jets requires spatial orientation( visuospatial & spatio-temporal skills)which is a separate type of IQ. There is also a power curve involved that some just can't conceive. I remember seeing a study about pilots and race/gender with white men being 1 out of 10 could be jet pilots with around 1 out of 100 white women, and the other demographics where worse for the standards they had.

I spent a few min looking for the study and couldn't find it but I found something even crazier I had not seen before about lowering the standards for SEALS to let blacks in.
"Olson has since hired Warren Lockette, a black geneticist who led integration efforts at two Midwestern medical schools, to help bring more blacks into SEALs.

Lockette, who has authority to reject candidates who might be prejudiced, says focusing on recruiting blacks alone will not do the job -- SEALs recruiters need to consider the attitudes of white applicants as well."
http://staugustine.com/stories/040202/nat_614703.shtml#.Va6gVHl3uUk

Blogger Alexander July 21, 2015 4:16 PM  

BGS,

So... good news if the next campaign is against Americans, bad news if the next campaign is against the Chinese or Russians.

Blogger Alexander July 21, 2015 4:19 PM  

Ah, it's the same basic story as professional football players having no tolerance for yappy bitches:

Society shocked - SHOCKED - that men explicitly selected for breaking the bell curve for ruthlessness and aggression lack a tendency to be sensitive to others' feelings.

Blogger VD July 21, 2015 4:28 PM  

I for one, don't care if a person is the same race as me

Well, that clearly outweighs the evidence of the entire written historical record of the human race... assuming you are even telling the truth.

Blogger Groot July 21, 2015 4:44 PM  

So, a couple of decades or so ago, I was watching C-SPAN, and up comes a convention of people I'd never heard of: Libertarians. There are people who think as I have, my entire life? I was amazed, but now knew what to call myself.

I just read that "neo-conservative," but had the opposite reaction, and now I know what I am: a paleo-radical, circa 1776.

Blogger Danby July 21, 2015 4:50 PM  

Well, that clearly outweighs the evidence of the entire written historical record of the human race... assuming you are even telling the truth.

He's lying to himself first, Vox.

When I was in HS, one of my close friends was a unicorn. High IQ Black guy, hard working, diligent.
When we had a spot of racial trouble in the community, he immediately lined up with his Black brethren. He called me a racist bitch right there in a crowd of Blacks.
He called me later to apologize, said he had to, for the look of the thing.

I told him "Fine Ken, no, you were right. I wasn't racist then, but after standing in a crowd of violent thugs, and having a guy I thought was my friend turn on me because I'm White, well, I guess you've convinced me that racism is right way to go. You have to be racist, I gotta be racist too.

Blogger M Cephas July 21, 2015 5:22 PM  

"Well, that clearly outweighs the evidence of the entire written historical record of the human race... assuming you are even telling the truth."

Maybe you should quote me in full next time. There was an "if" that followed right after "I for one, don't care if a person is the same race as me"

"if they don't speak English fluently, or have a completely different culture, I am not going to prefer their neighbourhood to somebody who is of a different race, but is more culturally aligned with myself, and is fluent in English."

I don't know why you would think I'm lying about that. Why would I prefer anti-Christian, anti-Americans, who don't speak the same language as me, just because they are of the same race?

Would you prefer to live amongst red Natives, even though they were all leftists, who didn't speak the same language as you, instead of living amongst Asians who are pro-American, libertarian, Christians?

Blogger Joe A. July 21, 2015 5:50 PM  

You can't derive white supremacy from the Vox quote they shared. They're not even trying anymore.

Blogger Danby July 21, 2015 5:52 PM  

@Cephas,
When push comes to shove, your "same culture, different race" friends often aren't really the same culture. That's what you're failing to understand.

Anonymous BigGaySteve July 21, 2015 6:02 PM  

I don't know why you would think I'm lying about that.

I have seen gays who had just recently been bashed, turn out so PC that couldn't name the race of their attackers.There are too many landmines with having friends of other races. I had a gay Hispanic RN who specialized in PEDS/NICU as a friend for over a decade. If you think I talk bad about crack hoes and crack babies he makes me seem like the leader of the NAACP by comparison.

One day he told me about how he put a mean doctor in his place by lying and I said: "Mike you can't do stuff like that you could damage his career. He might never criticize you again without a witness or recording but if he wasn't a racist homophobe before he is now"

That was the last time I effectively communicated with him. He did the thing most gay guys do even those with masters degrees in nursing he went from sending me 5 texts a week to zero, and when I got around to texting/calling him the next week he wouldn't respond. Then he went to pretending I didn't exist like school girls do. Now keep in mind what most people consider mean doctors are just ones with high standards, if I needed surgery I would want the type of surgeon that makes women & gay Hispanic men cry.

instead of living amongst Asians who are pro-American, libertarian, Christians?

For most intents and porpoises East Asians count as white. On ACT SAT & IQ tests they are pretty close. Many times blacks can not tell the difference from east Asians and whites when they attack them, like the Asian & hispanic cops killed in NYC that blacks said was payback to whitey for the Obese Sickle Cell Asthma COPD Cigarette selling guy that a team of cops lead by a black female sergeant put on his belly, which is enough to suffocate someone with that profile. East Asians and whites pretty much stole the show for civilization advancements.

Blogger Thordaddy July 21, 2015 6:21 PM  

But even Pierce was not a white Supremacist... In fact, being a national SOCIALIST, he was, intellectually and ideologically-speaking, an anti-white Supremacist as he certainly desired a socialist equality within a nation of separate whites.

Blogger VD July 21, 2015 6:24 PM  


I don't know why you would think I'm lying about that. Why would I prefer anti-Christian, anti-Americans, who don't speak the same language as me, just because they are of the same race?


Because I have traveled around the world and lived in various cultures. I have observed that EVERYONE from every Asian, American, or European culture I have been is most comfortable around people who look like them. You THINK you'd behave one way, but if you haven't ever lived anywhere where you are the only person who looks like you around, you have absolutely no idea.

Blogger M Cephas July 21, 2015 6:29 PM  

"When push comes to shove, your "same culture, different race" friends often aren't really the same culture. That's what you're failing to understand."

When I talk about those in American culture, or Christian culture, I mean those that take it seriously. I don't just mean somebody who was born in America, or goes to church, and I don't mean somebody who has a high IQ and works hard.

If push came to shove, I would not suddenly side with someone of the same race, if what they said was opposed to my views. I would not suddenly become an anticapitalist, or believe abortion to be a woman's right. I would not suddenly favor affirmative action. So I don't know what racial issue came up with your former friend, but you it doesn't sound like you shared the same views.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 21, 2015 6:32 PM  

M Cephas, you're still missing the point. You responded to an observation about societal tendencies throughout history with your claim that you personally will happily live next to people of other races (as long as you get to pick the best ones, of course). That response, whether true or not, had nothing to do with the quote you claimed to disagree with.

The point is: if things follow the usual pattern, it won't matter whether you personally want to self-segregate, because your neighbors will do it for you. You'll end up with the choice of living with people who look like you, or going to live where no one does -- and where you can be very sure you won't be wanted.

Blogger Pinakeli July 21, 2015 6:36 PM  

A long time ago, when the Earth was green,
There was more kinds of animals than you've ever seen.
And they'd run around free when the Earth was being born,
And the loveliest of 'em all was the unicorn.

There was green alligators and long-necked geese,
Some humpty backed camels and some chimpanzees.
Some cats and rats and elephants, but sure as you're born,
The loveliest of all was the unicorn.

Well now God seen some sinnin' and it caused Him pain.
And He said, "Stand back, I'm going to make it rain!"
He said, "Hey, Brother Noah, I'll tell you what to do,
build me a floating zoo,"

"and take some of them".......

"Green alligators and long-necked geese,
Some humpty backed camels and some chimpanzees.
Some cats and rats and elephants, but sure as you're born.
Don't you forget My unicorns."

Well Old Noah he was there and he answered the callin',
And he finished makin' the ark just as the rain started to fallin'.
Then he marched in all them animals two by two,
And he sung out as they went through,

"Hey Lord,"

"I got Your green alligators and long-necked geese,
Some humpty backed camels and some chimpanzees.
Some cats and rats and elephants, but Lord, I'm so forlorn,
I just can't see no unicorns !"

And Noah looked out through the driving rain,
The unicorns were hiding, playing sally games.
They were kickin' and splashin' while the rain was pourin',
Oh, the sally unicorns!

There was green alligators and long-necked geese,
Some humpty backed camels and some chimpanzees.
Noah cried, "Close the door 'cause the rain is just pourin',
And we just cannot wait for no unicorn!"

The ark started moving, and it drifted with the tide,
And the unicorns looked up from the rocks and they cried.
And the waters come down and sort of flooded them away,
That's why you never seen a unicorn to this very day.

But you'll see green alligators and long-necked geese,
Some humpty backed camels and some chimpanzees.
Some cats and rats and elephants, but sure as you're born,
You're never gonna see no unicorn!

Blogger Thordaddy July 21, 2015 6:43 PM  

This is a deadening "game" where the object is to come to no conclusion for the purpose of endlessly entertaining the spectators... And HAVE ALL PUBLICLY renounce Christianity... Even self-professed Christians.

The nature of the dispute simply revolves around the rival conceptions (the true one versus the false one) of Supremacy and thus the essence of the white Supremacist.

Anti-white Supremacist (AWS): Vox is a "white supremacist!"

Vox: No I am not...

Now the nature of the dispute lies with the anti-white Supremacist's conception of the "white supremacist" as white degenerate. So the translation goes like this:

AWS: Vox is a white degenerate.

Vox: I am not a white degenerate.

And this is all "true" enough UNDER the false conception.

But under the true conception... Ergo, a white Supremacist is a white man that grants the existence of objective Supremacy, Vox's denial is NO GOOD because he does, in fact, grant the existence of objective Supremacy as an avowed Christian.

So now the "slander" takes on a new understanding... For the anti-white Supremacist, white Christian and white degenerate are synonymous.

So... Very subtly... When the AWS calls Vox a "white supremacist" and he denies the "charge," HE IS ACTUALLY PUBLICLY repudiating his belief in Christianity, ie., objective Supremacy...

The enemy merely seeks your denial...

Over and over again.

Anonymous BigGaySteve July 21, 2015 6:51 PM  

M Cephas I will accept that you are possibly like the faggots that trade being housemates in San Fran for buying an entire block in Oakland splitting the cost of 24/7/365 live paid security guards for less than they paid in SF. But even they quickly realized reality exists.
Why don't you go be around some non Asian minority die verse city and look for reality?

http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_25126926/scorned-oakland-gentrifier-accepts-label-but-calls-truce
http://www.thebolditalic.com/articles/3148-an-article-about-gentrification-in-oakland-that-isn-t-going-to-make-you-feel-good-about-yourself

The last one says whites shouldn't report crime but volunteer to help blacks find jobs."(If you’re bothered by crime in Oakland, rather
than complaining and calling the cops, do something effective and positive for the community, such as helping improve the quality of
education for Oakland youths or helping at-risk Oaklanders get jobs or other volunteering opportunities.)


Oh yea I will go pick up trash that blacks leave on the streets as it will be more productive than reporting a sidewalk rape in broad daylight, perhaps some physics books and Austrian economics books donated to the local library would help.

Blogger M Cephas July 21, 2015 6:51 PM  

"Because I have traveled around the world and lived in various cultures. I have observed that EVERYONE from every Asian, American, or European culture I have been is most comfortable around people who look like them. You THINK you'd behave one way, but if you haven't ever lived anywhere where you are the only person who looks like you around, you have absolutely no idea."

I admit I do not have experience with the exact scenario you outlined above, but I have been the only person to look different amongst a group of friends, without a problem. And I have felt less comfortable around immigrants who happen to look more like me, than those same friends of a different race.

I am going off personal experience. Differences in language and/or culture have been a greater predictor of whether or not I will be comfortable around a group of people or not, than race.

Blogger M Cephas July 21, 2015 7:12 PM  

"You'll end up with the choice of living with people who look like you, or going to live where no one does -- and where you can be very sure you won't be wanted."

Maybe you are right. I do not have experience being the sole person of a particular race amongst an entire community of people. A neighbourhood, sure, but an entire city, no.

"Why don't you go be around some non Asian minority die verse city and look for reality?"

If you're talking about black neighbourhoods, I've seen them, and there were none I would want to live in.

Anonymous BigGaySteve July 21, 2015 7:18 PM  

If you're talking about black neighbourhoods, I've seen them, and there were none I would want to live in

Barrios also. When Mexican president Calderon said "where there are Mexicans there is Mexico" he was right about:
littering,
corruption,
crime,
rule by drug dealer
people acting like the age of consent was 12,
but I did notice one important difference there are more libraries than woman+ male donkey shows

Blogger Thordaddy July 21, 2015 7:39 PM  

To the AWS... Separation is an evil crime.

"They" WANT liberation without separation... And thus DEMAND annihilation. This is the "nature" of the parasitic plantation. A "nation" aimed solely at a universal equalization. A redundant phenomenon represented by down duplicating degeneration.

Anonymous Donn #0114 July 21, 2015 7:46 PM  

The truth is that the US government is doing everything it can to bring in as many illegals as it can before the amnesty deal gets made. It'll be a partial amnesty (partial in the sense that adults) won't be allowed to legally vote (they will anyway).

But other than that everyone under the age of 18 hell 20 something maybe will get a dream path to citizenship, free college, preference for jobs, and the Teflon protection of being an ethnic person.

They will literally be capable of doing no wrong. No stories will show in the MSM because they will quickly and quietly deport anyone who commits an outrage. So pretty much what we have now only we'll probably pay them to visit relatives in Mexico or pay for them to come and 'visit'.

We're the Romans watching Goths decide which province to slice up next with the help of the Emperor.

Anonymous Donn #0114 July 21, 2015 7:55 PM  

Vox how the hell can you be a white supremacist when you're not white, don't believe anyone is supreme and are Indian and Hispanic (I've never met an enrolled tribal member who objected to being called an 'Indian'. Not even professional grievance types in private)?

So what is it with everyone including one particular commentator calling you a supremacist? Did you used to write for the KKK Quarterly or something? I don't remember any articles at WND that were supremacist. I just don't see how they can hang that label on you without provoking libel charges.

Blogger Danby July 21, 2015 8:09 PM  

If push came to shove, I would not suddenly side with someone of the same race, if what they said was opposed to my views. I would not suddenly become an anticapitalist, or believe abortion to be a woman's right. I would not suddenly favor affirmative action. So I don't know what racial issue came up with your former friend, but you it doesn't sound like you shared the same views.

The actual problem at the time was the conflict between refugee Vietnamese and Blacks back in the 1970s. I had a Vietnamese girlfriend at the time, and my Black friend, essentially hung me out to dry, inviting a crowd of angry Blacks to give me a beating rather than stand up for me.

You see, it's not a matter of opinions, or even lifestyles, it's a matter of group cohesion. Given the urgent necessity of choosing between you and members of their own ethnic group, guess who will come in second?

You seem to think that the natural dividing line between clans and tribes is political. While that is commonly true now, in our relatively prosperous and political era. The only things people fight much about these days are political issues, so that almost makes sense.

When things get serious, however, when clan membership is the difference between relative safety and a sudden violent death, that gives way. It doesn't matter what someone's opinion on capitalism vs socialism is, if they'll back you up in a fight. He wasn't going to back me up. Because I was White, and they were Black.

And even if you don't think that way, other people do, especially the ones you think you are fine with. You "Christian Libertarian Chinese neighbors are still going to favor their Socialist confucian cousin over you, because that's what Chinese do. The Black Capitalist Christian Neighbor is still going to cover for his welfare-dependent drug-addled sister. The Cosmopolitan Conservative Religious Jew is still going to favor members of his tribe.

The most radical thing you can do to prepare for adversity is to see things for what they are. You are looking at the issue through ideological anti-racist lenses. You may like the view, it probably makes you feel pretty good about what an open-minded and fair person you are. It's also false.

Anonymous Takin' a look July 21, 2015 8:48 PM  

I have yet to read any BGS, I've just read that article.

Blogger M Cephas July 21, 2015 8:58 PM  

"The most radical thing you can do to prepare for adversity is to see things for what they are. You are looking at the issue through ideological anti-racist lenses. You may like the view, it probably makes you feel pretty good about what an open-minded and fair person you are. It's also false."

I'm not open minded. Nor am I always a fair person. Neither of those things would make me feel good about myself. I might be a racist, I guess it depends on who you ask.

As for Chinese cousins, and black sisters. I was not arguing if somebody would take the side of their family members. A random Chinese person, that the other Chinese person doesn't know is a different story.

I don't understand how your friend could possibly have taken sides with total random strangers over an actual friend, unless he seriously felt that you were in the wrong.

In a life or death situation, if a group of people the same race as me, tried to attack one of my friends, especially for a stupid reason, I can honestly say I would not join them. If your friend was an utter coward, I can understand him standing by and doing nothing out of fear for his own life. But he joined them in their attack? Why would that be the preferred option, even in a life or death situation?

Blogger Groot July 21, 2015 9:15 PM  

Vox, Thordaddy's brains of titanium and ineluctable logic have you trapped now. Either confess to being a white supremacist or renounce your Christianity! I know what you're thinking: The "chickens" have COME HOME TO ROOST! God damn America! The government LIED about "not" inventing HIV to commit GENOCIDE.

Blogger macengr July 21, 2015 9:19 PM  

See, I struggle with conversations like this, because my best friend (for 25 years now) is black, and I'm white. I've experienced the other side of it as well - being bullied by black guys - and yet, if it came down to it, I would hide my friend from a white mob. He is a devout Christian and without a doubt has helped me be a better Christian. So on one hand, I see where Vox is coming from, but on the other, I doubt I would be the Christ-follower I am today where it not for a man of another race.

Blogger Danby July 21, 2015 9:25 PM  

... if a group of people the same race as me, tried to attack one of my friends, especially for a stupid reason, I can honestly say I would not join them.

yet, if it came down to it, I would hide my friend from a white mob.

You're White.

Look, I'm not saying that all Blacks are bad or whatever you think I'm saying. What you should understand is that even a slight preference for one's own kind works into self-segregation. The mathematical simulations have been done.And even if you have no preference for your own race, the fact that others do, will, over time, under stress, result in self-segregated communities. In fact, without the constant push of the governemnt for integrated communities and placing Blacks and Mexicans into rich White neighborhoods, we

Blogger Danby July 21, 2015 9:31 PM  


would already be living in a self-segregated society.

Blogger macengr July 21, 2015 9:32 PM  

Danby, yes, I live among whites, and yes, I know segregation is natural - I've read Schelling's papers and also have a copy of Netlogo on my machine with the simulation. That said, when Jesus returns, will we still be that way, and if not, is there room for some mixing now - in a Christian community, and not forced by SJWs.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 21, 2015 9:48 PM  

I don't understand how your friend could possibly have taken sides with total random strangers over an actual friend

See O.J. Simpson, or Trayvon Martin, or any similar case. In every such case, no matter how clear the guilt, blacks overwhelmingly take the side of their racial brother. Marcia Clark packed the Simpson jury with women, expecting them to identify with the victim -- being too color-blind herself to notice that they were black women -- and their racial solidarity outweighed their gender, even though OJ lived in a completely different culture from theirs and had as little to do with other blacks as possible. There were stories of black and white friends and co-workers getting into arguments over the verdict, and that didn't require them to have direct connections to anyone involved.

In the Trayvon case, even some black Republicans took a sort of, "Don't ask me, because I just can't criticize a dead young black man, even if he was a thug." They looked at him and saw "black" first and "thug" second. That's just the way it is. The only exception is white Europeans in recent times, and that's because we've been dominant and wealthy enough that we could afford to think otherwise.

That doesn't mean you're a traitor if you have non-white friends, or that you can't be thankful for good things non-whites have done, or that you're required to cut ties with everyone outside your specific race and ethnicity. It just means you should be aware that you and your good black friend are unusual, and that's not something you should expect or take for granted as normal.

Blogger Danby July 21, 2015 9:52 PM  

exactly what Cail said

Anonymous Soga July 21, 2015 10:09 PM  

M Cephas, it's easy for you to look at your multi-hued friends and wonder why Danby's black friend would throw him under the bus. You're white. Your white friends are not sporting KKK costumes, and it is not a socially acceptable activity for whites to go around lynching blacks.

But suppose you lived in a time when it was? You have some white friends you're really tight with, but you also happen to be pretty good friends with this black guy...

Problem is, he did something that really, really pissed off the KKK crowd. But you don't wanna piss off your mobbing white buddies. What do you do? And keep in mind, you're not going to think like you do today. You would have been culturally conditioned to think less of black people, to think that it's probably better in the long run if you just side with your white buddies and lynched the black guy. It's much easier, more comfortable, and you're siding with the majority, so you fit in, and your white buddies buy you a beer at the local tavern after the whole fiasco. Of course, if the black guy survived, you might be inclined to find him, dust off his shoulders, and ask him for his forgiveness - you just had to ACT like you were with the mob...

Black culture is kind of like that. If Danby's black friend didn't throw him under the bus, that black friend would have gotten trashed by his own fellow blacks for being a race traitor. That's just how it is.

Anonymous BigGaySteve July 21, 2015 10:22 PM  

"I have yet to read any BGS, I've just read that article."

The same guy and others where in a series of gentrification articles that was the most recent one. What is you are looking for when you said "I have yet to read any"?

I don't understand how your friend could possibly have taken sides with total random strangers over an actual friend, unless he seriously felt that you were in the wrong

Your friend would have to chose between being beat up as an Oreo/ unckle Tom or siding with the savage mob. The only stories in history of people hiding others is white people helping others. In Syria Christians helped moslem women and children whose men had gone jihading but when the men came back the women and children pointed out the Christians to the jihadi men for swordpoint conversions/rape.

Here is a teacher that had her class write get well cards for her hero who killed a white cop, This is the solidarity we are talking about. There are people who know he is guilty that worship him. http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/28772046/teacher-suspended-following-get-well-cards-to-convicted-cop-killer

Even gay guys that are stupid enough to have a black boyfriend have acknowledged that their men act differently when other blacks are around. In fact I believe Milo mentioned that in one of his videos when he admitted he was a gay mudshark. At one point I believed in equality but I still have never meet a black as smart as seen on TV & I knew a black doctor that malpracticed himself to death, and a fall upward black nursing supervisor who couldn't understand cause and effect when she wanted a charge nurse to alter the acuity numbers for a previous shift that had 3 codes.

Blogger Danby July 21, 2015 11:04 PM  

As it turned out, I was aggressive enough, and Blacks were rare enough in that part of town that I was able to bluff my way out without any actual violence. I figured out who was actually the nigger in charge of the mob and challenged him directly. He backed down.

Ken probably wouldn't have gotten away with that. He could have backed me up though.

Blogger Groot July 22, 2015 1:39 AM  

Dammit, Thordaddy, are you off-leash again? You know you're limited to one black White Supremacist rant a day. How does anybody in the neighborhood get any sleep?

Blogger Doc Rampage July 22, 2015 2:15 AM  

Thordaddy that silly trick where you pretend that "white supremacist" means the same thing as "supremacist" and that "supremacist" means "someone who believes in a supreme being" is so ridiculous I'm almost embarrassed to point it out. I mean, it's not like you are fooling anyone.

But it's annoying to see my time repeatedly wasted by posts that start out looking like logical arguments (which naturally attract my attention) and then turn out to be ridiculous. Could you do me a favor and preface such posts with a prominent notice like "WARNING: This is a fake logic post that relies on random word associations and sophistry rather than actual argumentation"?

Thanks.

Blogger VD July 22, 2015 3:32 AM  

Shut up, Thordaddy. You're done here if you can't stop talking about the same fucking thing every fucking time.

And if you argue with me about this, I'll ban you.

Blogger VD July 22, 2015 3:34 AM  

So what is it with everyone including one particular commentator calling you a supremacist?

SJW Narrative. Of course, only those who don't know I am a Native American are still sticking to it.

Blogger John Wright July 22, 2015 6:11 AM  

""Well, that clearly outweighs the evidence of the entire written historical record of the human race... assuming you are even telling the truth.""

Pfui. The Uganda Martyrs are negro. St. Kateri Teckakwitha is a redskin. St. Romanus Aybara is Japanese. St. Maximilian Kolbe is a Pole. St. Paul is a Jew.

I know whom I serve. Those who serve Him also are my brothers, regardless of race.

If all of human history says otherwise, then let human history be damned to hell. I defy it, and the devils that lead it.

Anonymous Takin' a look July 22, 2015 6:48 AM  

To see what he has to say BGS.

Anonymous Steve July 22, 2015 6:49 AM  

That's not the gay Steve, though, that's the happily married one.

Yes, I'm not even the teensiest bit gay. Though I do like Elton John.

I buy my casual clothes from the supermarket, I can't distinguish between taupe and beige, and I don't even feel comfortable eating a banana.

If I was a homosexual though, and with all due respect to Big Gay Steve, I'd be the greatest gay who ever lived. Like a big rainbow Optimus Prime, swinging his giant pneumatic robo-dong around like it was a Saturn V rocket.

However, I can't be bothered with that sort of thing. Who would cook my dinner, iron my shirts, and trim my back hair?

And if my back fur is left to grow too wild and unkempt, I'm at risk of being shot at by agitated zookeepers with tranquiliser guns.

Anonymous BGS July 22, 2015 10:29 AM  

"To see what he has to say BGS."

Who is "he" I don't understand what you are looking for in the last 2 posts addressed to me.

Who would cook my dinner, iron my shirts, and trim my back hair?

Cooking isn't that hard, you could order out if you wanted, & just like women in programing there is info on the net available.

You could buy shirts that don't need ironing, you could wear scrubs/pajamas to work, or you could drop them off with the nice Asian people that have the" 5 shirts pressed for x$" sign up. When I was a traveler I always looked for the laundry place that would do they laundry for you, its usually cheaper than if you used a coin op laundry and you can drop off your stuff, see sights, take a meal and pick it back up folded & pressed for you.

You could get it waxed and less would come back, it can also be removed one follicle at a time with a LASER, or you can get a hair transplant from your back to your head.

Blogger Sad Puppy July 22, 2015 11:04 AM  


31. Shimshon

"Who's face is on the $5?"

It's a MAN! Why do you hate women?
---------------------------------
It's not that I hate women, but that I thought it might be a poorly rendition of Eric Bishoff. Which would be hilarious and crazy all at the same time.

Anonymous Anonymous July 23, 2015 3:47 PM  

And why not?
It's working for Trump.

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