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Tuesday, July 14, 2015

Ilk wanted

A known member of the Ilk posts a want ad:
I have need of Ilk, US and Canada. I have a rep group that is currently expanding.  I am looking for reps across the US & Canada. (We have done work in Europe, Asia, South & Central America as well so there could be opportunity there  additionally).  My group sells laboratory casework into a variety of markets that have laboratories: pharmaceutical, biotech, environmental firms, consumer companies, universities, government, military, nuclear, waste water, and more.

It is a straight-commission plan, 10% to 15% commission based on volume.  As an example, one pharmaceutical customer spends about $3M annually on equipment, so if you can close, it is a nice commission.  If anyone sells to these industries, you can do it on the side and it is a great add-on sale.I will also offer a 5% Finders Fee to anyone who works in one of these industries, and sends a referral that leads to a sale.
If you are interested in looking into it, email me with LABS in the subject and I'll forward it on to the gentleman responsible.

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33 Comments:

Anonymous kfg July 14, 2015 6:52 AM  

"Sounds a bit pyramidy to me . . ."

Sounds perfectly linear to me, it's straight commission. Perhaps it's the finder's fee paid to a "bird dog" that gives you that feel, but it's a one time commission on an actual sale, there is no residual structure of people you bring in under you to skim and the customers are all actually customers.

Anonymous Proud redneck July 14, 2015 7:03 AM  

Sounds like a scam. The words "commission" and "percentage" give it away as a scam. The American way is to pay a fixed amount per year or per hour, regardless of performance. Equal pay for equal job titles. This also what the Church teaches.

Blogger D. Lane (#0067) July 14, 2015 7:21 AM  

Sounds like a scam. The words "commission" and "percentage" give it away as a scam.

How do you define a scam? All 'commission' and 'percentage' betray is the fact that the job isn't as lucrative on average as the ad would lead some to believe.

Blogger Nate July 14, 2015 7:42 AM  

"Sounds like a scam. The words "commission" and "percentage" give it away as a scam."

Yet every sales job out there pays "commission" by "percentage".

Anonymous TLM July 14, 2015 7:43 AM  

Straight commission, what separates the boys from the men in any sales career. Salaries are for pikers and losers. AIDA. ABC. Because its f@ck or walk.

Blogger Nate July 14, 2015 7:44 AM  

This is how the sales world works. Rep goes to businesses and sign up accounts... and then gets a cut of what business the count does. and bonuses for referrals are ubiquitous.

Anonymous kfg July 14, 2015 7:45 AM  

@D. Lane:

Read it again with your sarcasm detector glasses on.

" . . . the job isn't as lucrative on average as the ad would lead some to believe."

Sales never is . . . on average, however, this is a call for people who are already an independent rep in the specific field, so anybody who applies already knows exactly what the deal is.

The great thing about being a rep is that you can choose whichever 100 hours a week you want to work and you never have to change the sheets on your own bed - you're never going to sleep in it.

Blogger Nate July 14, 2015 7:46 AM  

"American way is to pay a fixed amount per year or per hour, regardless of performance. "

I have no idea what world you live in... but that world doesn't involve mortgages, or actually... any lending... car sales... Pharm Sales... or hell... actually any sales job anywhere.

Blogger D. Lane (#0067) July 14, 2015 7:49 AM  

*mind blown*

Anonymous Giuseppe July 14, 2015 7:53 AM  

Somewhat OT: but look what SJWs have done. Outright killed a man, for no reason at all.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265065/Man-kills-row-work-non-PC-joke.html

Blogger LP 999/Eliza July 14, 2015 8:25 AM  

Med equip and pharma sales are mostly commish with maybe fuel reimbursement but these days its more the phone less driving to reduce expenses.

The scam is what the banksters are pulling in the EU, the latest painful innocent victimcountry is Greece.

The above described opportunity is not a scam, its a gig. If I had the health, I'd take only 1 to 2% commission and see it thru.

Anonymous Zek July 14, 2015 9:02 AM  

It is not a pyramid whatsoever, just straight up commission on sales. We work with national pharmaceutical companies, top universities, etc. One of the national competitors recently went out of business, so it is a great opportunity to expand.

Anonymous Stg58 / Animal Mother #225 July 14, 2015 9:16 AM  

Has anyone here actually worked in sales? This is standard stuff. I'd take the job if I were you. Lab sales have a quick turnaround, and there are absolutely thousands of them across the country. The client given as an example that buys 3 million worth buys that amount throughout the year, so think about 300,000.00 - 450,000.00 paid to you in commission over a year. FROM ONE CUSTOMER.

Blogger VD July 14, 2015 9:28 AM  

All right, I'm convinced and modified the description accordingly.

Anonymous Stg58 / Animal Mother #225 July 14, 2015 9:31 AM  

Since this job has no base specified, the Ilk offering should offer a 25k signing bonus to tide the successful applicant over until the first sales hit and pay commissions.

Thank me I just threw out your first negotiation step.

Anonymous Athor Pel July 14, 2015 10:01 AM  

Laboratory casework is basically cabinetry. Help me understand how one company can spend $3 million on cabinetry a year, every year. Because cabinets last a long damn time. Do these labs quickly degrade because of the work done in them?

Anonymous kalel666 July 14, 2015 10:02 AM  

This is definitely interesting to me, but since I'm also a lab casework manufacturer (albeit a smaller one), I'll have to pass. Good luck, business is great right now.

Blogger JP July 14, 2015 11:02 AM  

I know medical reps who earn as much and even more than me. And I'm a senior software developer. It's hard work, but it is potentially very lucrative. Especially if you can tie down those big bulk clients. What kills you is having to serve dozens of tiny clients who all demand face time.

Anonymous Zek July 14, 2015 11:13 AM  

Athor,

Correct, the casework can last 15 years or more. However, pharm companies typically redo their labs every 5-7 years, they have a large research footprint, often change the layouts, and usually have deep pockets.

It also doesn't have to be a full-time gig, it's perfect to do as a side project to generate extra income.

Anonymous BGS July 14, 2015 12:01 PM  

I don't think I could be a drug rep I have actually laughed at some of their claims. Like when they combine 2 existing drugs and pretend its something better than the 2 drugs taken together, or when they just barely jigger with a drug whose patent has expired.

Somewhat OT: but look what SJWs have done. Outright killed a man, for no reason at all.

I never understood why someone would kill themselves without killing the people that caused the problem in the first place.

Sounds like a scam. The words "commission" and "percentage" give it away as a scam.

Most sales jobs you can earn several slow months worth of moneys in 2 weeks of busy time. Which really discriminates against women on maternity leave. /sarc

Anonymous NateM July 14, 2015 12:04 PM  

"Correct, the casework can last 15 years or more. However, pharm companies typically redo their labs every 5-7 years, they have a large research footprint, often change the layouts, and usually have deep pockets.

It also doesn't have to be a full-time gig, it's perfect to do as a side project to generate extra income."


Very true. My gf works in such a lab, and the Derms who own it do VERY well with it. Spending major dough to redo the lab wouldn't put much of a dent in what they were taking out of the business. Just remember, most hospitals and doctor's offices contract with private labs for most stains, blood tests etc.

I know i'm sold, Zek. How do I get in on this?

Blogger LP 999/Eliza July 14, 2015 12:20 PM  

Give it a chance and apply.

My time in medical sales was complex and road warrior. ...sterilizers, tubing, dental chair backs, upholstery, and concentration on certain drug classes like cancer or pain meds. Overwhelming, varied but worth the knowledge and time spent. It just depends, 5 to 15% commission is fair but the 1 to 5% is more realistic. Then again its been 7 years since I was in the industry pre-healthcare bill.

Anonymous Stg58 / Animal Mother #225 July 14, 2015 12:25 PM  

Bob,

Read the OP again. The job is not selling drugs, it is selling furniture to labs of any kind. Chemical labs, universities, oil and gas labs, etc.

Anonymous BGS July 14, 2015 12:40 PM  

Yea you should avoid sales. It turns out people that work for a living to better themselves age faster than layabouts.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3159472/Poor-teenagers-better-age-faster-die-younger.html

"Hard work and determination may allow children to leave their humble beginnings behind.But the rise from rags to riches could take a terrible toll on their health.Research has shown that poor teenagers who are marked out for success age more quickly"

So don't even try to advance as Margret Thatcher encouraged people.

Anonymous Zek July 14, 2015 12:53 PM  

NateM,

email uslabdesignATgmail.com

Anonymous Zek July 14, 2015 1:27 PM  

NateM,

Email Vox with LABS in the subject and he will send over

Anonymous Cash July 14, 2015 2:05 PM  

I think it is great that Vox does this kind of thing. Good luck with your biz and give us an update at some point.

"The leads are weak?..... you're weak!"

Anonymous Cash July 14, 2015 2:07 PM  

KFG "sales never is .... on average"

Is this for real or are my sarcasm glasses that far off?

Anonymous A.B. Prosper July 14, 2015 2:12 PM  

The fact that this blog makes an effort to get Ilk together is terrific and sales jobs sometimes can meet the time/effort tradeoff in ways no other can. I'm not able to do this right now but it tempts me.

Now O/T feel free to ignore yada yada

BGS, I sense your sarcasm but that study makes some degree of sense, Human evolved as hunter/gatherers who worked a few hours a day most times. This 40-60 hours a week stuff is new to the species (compared to our being around 30k years or so) and comes at a cost.

IMO largely we all work 2 times what we should for no good reason, mainly to pay for complexity and a hostile elite and their games and just to keep the factories churning and so on. We don't seem any happier than people were centuries ago, maybe less so though I'll grant you our medicine and sanitation are the boss. Its also nice not to have to farm, been there done that.

Most of what we really can use and enjoy could be had with much less time and effort than we put in if the extra expense could be cut and wages as percent GDP increased (speaking for the US here) to where they were in the 1970's

In some places like Japan and Singapore its so bad people can't even find time to reproduce and raise the next generation. Its self correcting of course, either society gets its act together or its complexity level drops (i.e a collapse) from immigrants who can't/won't sustain the society or from a a lack of people engaged in participation.

Oh and re: Thatcher. That women is the example of the worst of Conservatism. Utterly obsessed with work and money, doesn't believe in any society larger than "the family" , Ugh. All that aside here view you ought to take care of your problems first and ought to reciprocate doesn't bother me only her lack of nationalism or any idea that there is, well maybe was a Great Britain or a United Kingdom or that we don't have reciprocal obligations to each other which we do. Don't be a bum off "society" is one thing but it requires effort on the part of the top to make that work and Thatcher IMO saw no reciprocal obligation on her part.

Anonymous Dave July 14, 2015 3:10 PM  

@Bob

Every ambulance chaser within 100 miles of that nursing home would be drooling over class action lawsuits

Blogger ICG July 14, 2015 4:22 PM  

"My time in medical sales was complex and road warrior. ...sterilizers, tubing, dental chair backs, upholstery, and concentration on certain drug classes like cancer or pain meds. Overwhelming, varied but worth the knowledge and time spent."

As long as we live in a morbidly obese, junk food-guzzling society, there should be plenty of job security, too. I know people my age (40s) who take all kinds of pharma crap.

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Anonymous Giuseppe July 15, 2015 10:19 AM  

I never understood why someone would kill themselves without killing the people that caused the problem in the first place.
That's because you're a vicious fag Steve. And I agree with you cause I'm a vicious man, but for the rest of the humans, it's called being a nice guy.

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