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Thursday, July 23, 2015

Jeu vidéo et «suprémacisme»

Causeur responds to Le Monde's coverage of #GGinPAris:
Video Games and "Supremacism"

#Gamergate might not ring a bell with readers, but Le Monde / Pixels recently covered its recent meet-up in Paris. Concerned vigilance sums up the tone of the article. The author ventured onsite ready to ferret out any signs of Evil on the prowl. This unwittingly comic posture does not prove we should all bless #GG, even if it does incline us to consider this affair from a benevolent perspective. If you’ve read Alban Agnoux’s paper in Causeur #26, #Gamergate will seem like familiar territory: it is an online movement engaged in a cultural war to protect freedom of speech in video games. Against whom? Mainly against those #GGers denounce using the term social justice warriors (SJWs). In a nutshell, if you like Lara Croft, you are not an SJW. Does this also make you an antifeminist? It doesn’t take much to become a suspect these days.

Ah, how the young generation sometimes leaves us scratching our heads in perplexity! The author of the Le Monde article did not evade the polychromatic aspect of the #GG phenomenon. In order to balance his depiction, as well as to avoid bewildering his readers more than was necessary, it is understandable that he also chose to take some harder lines. Did he do so in order to quiet any inner doubts about his own orthodoxy as well? I would not go so far. In any case, this is where Vox Day, one of the gamers behind #GGinParis, came in handy: not too young, easier to classify, especially if you put words in his mouth. Given the number of detractors the man has already accumulated, why not join the pack? The threat lying hidden in the shadows of #GG would thus appear to boil down to him. Him, and his ideology: supremacism.

Perhaps it is me, but as characterizations go, this one comes across as vague, if not outright flippant. It is an accusation made in bad faith, without force and without conviction. Check out the second photo of the article, in which the alleged supremacist Vox Day appears, but which also inexplicably features the beaming smile of the black owner of the bar: how is the reader not expected to start having doubts after seeing that? If, on top of that, the readers goes off exploring the chap’s blog, well, at least all is not lost. From what I understand, accusations of supremacism sadden the accused greatly, as he never misses a chance to assert his Native American and Mexican heritages. And does he not seem a little too satisfied with the attention bestowed upon on him by Le Monde?

Yes, why not reduce the enemy to a caricature — but one has got to put some heart into it, lest the effort prove counterproductive.  
It's a strong and wryly jaundiced response to the Le Monde author's apparent determination to stick to the Narrative, and to take the occasional cheap shot. Don't get me wrong, I was impressed to see that the journalist not only made the hitherto unseen effort to show up at the event, but spent several hours there and talked to many people there. However, it was disappointing that he elected to run with the "supremacism" line even after acknowledging that my ancestry made the claims of being a white supremacist absurd and that a response to a single attacker cannot seriously be considered a reliable indicator of one's perspective on a group consisting of hundreds of millions of people.

Then again, the journalist openly admitted that he did not know how to describe my actual ideology, libertarianism. And he did make an effort, as he even made reference to my attempt to put it in French terms: "Voltairean revolutionaries dedicated to liberte' while rejecting egalite'". But the Causeur author is correct to call him to account for taking, shall we say, liberties with the truth, as the fact that communicating a hard-to-translate perspective does not justify inventing your own version of it.

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69 Comments:

Anonymous Steve July 23, 2015 8:23 AM  

Concerned vigilance sums up the tone of the article

Evidemment.

Anonymous a_peraspera July 23, 2015 8:29 AM  

The most damning thing about those pictures is that the GGinParis folks look normal.

No rainbow-haired she-twinks, no neckbearded, manboobed pudgeballs, no obvious old cat lady lesbos. Exactly the opposite of EVERY gathering of SJWs ever.

Might start making people think about whose side they should be on.

Anonymous Poli_Mis July 23, 2015 8:30 AM  

French articles read so ghey

Anonymous Steve July 23, 2015 8:38 AM  

No rainbow-haired she-twinks, no neckbearded, manboobed pudgeballs, no obvious old cat lady lesbos. Exactly the opposite of EVERY gathering of SJWs ever.

Anti-GamerGate meetup.

Anonymous p-dawg July 23, 2015 8:52 AM  

@Steve: That one guy surely got the pick of the litter. I bet he had sow much fun that night.

Anonymous Lulabelle (68) July 23, 2015 8:54 AM  

I see what you did there, p-dawg. lol.

Blogger AmyJ July 23, 2015 9:00 AM  

@a_peraspera

In addition, they all looked like intelligent adults. You see a gathering of feminists, SJWs, and the like, and they look like overgrown children who can't let go of their My Little Pony toys.

Blogger JohnR219 July 23, 2015 9:19 AM  

English translation of article?

Anonymous a_peraspera July 23, 2015 9:35 AM  

Steve: QED, muthafucka.

Anonymous JamesV July 23, 2015 9:35 AM  

If someone can know about Rachel Dolenzal and still believe she is black they can know about you and still believe you are a white supremacist.

He had no choice but to admit it was an absurd position to your face because he had no response that didn't make him look foolish. In the back of his mind I suspect he still believes there is some qualifying fact or fundamental flaw in your logic that makes you wrong and him right even if he doesn't understand or can't articulate what those facts or flaws are. In his gut he knows he is right and that overrides any observable truths.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 23, 2015 9:39 AM  

Without "racist, sexist, homophobic " what do they have?

OpenID vfm360 July 23, 2015 9:40 AM  

@ JohnR219

Here ya go.

Blogger Dexter July 23, 2015 9:43 AM  

Washington Post likens GG to white supremacist malevolent trolls:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/reign-of-terror-online-trolls-destroy-a-virginia-familys-offline-life/2015/07/20/a467f9bc-19ba-11e5-93b7-5eddc056ad8a_story.html

Malevolent trolling has caused increasing concern in recent years. “RIP Trolls” deface Facebook memorial pages to dead children. The white supremacist site Daily Stormer has deployed a “troll army” to target a Jewish British politician and a Muslim activist in Australia. And angry trolls viciously attacked a video-game designer and other women at the center of the much-publicized “Gamergate” saga, sending them dozens of death and rape threats and promising a mass shooting at a speaking event.

Anonymous PA July 23, 2015 9:48 AM  

If one wanted to create a graphic featuring four faces of living, recognizable faces of Heroes of the Western/White/Christian world, whom would the Ilk recommend?

A shortlist would include Putin, Trump, Snowden... others?

Blogger Bill July 23, 2015 9:50 AM  

And Wired jumps in, again, with this snickers bar in the pool.

Gamers Who Troll Women Are Literally Losers
http://www.wired.com/2015/07/gamers-troll-women-literally-losers/

"To better understand the roots of misogyny... “It’s the fear of losing to a woman that kind of irks a lot of men,” Kasumovic, a professor at the University of New South Wales, says. “As a consequence, they lash out in an attempt to remove women from the competitive playing field."

But games are not just about games!
“Think about STEM fields, for example, or construction, or medical professions, ” he says. “Wherever there’s going to be a male bias sex ratio, there’ll probably be this strong hierarchy and a very aggressive way for men to ensure their status above women.”

Man, they totally got me. You know, I wish there were women terrorists in Counter-Strike SO I COULD SHOOT WOMEN IN THE FACE!!!! BLARGLOAL!

Anonymous Lulabelle (68) July 23, 2015 9:55 AM  

"A shortlist would include Putin, Trump, Snowden... others?"

Jared Taylor, Pat Buchanan, James Edwards?

Blogger D. Lane (#0067) July 23, 2015 10:02 AM  

You know, I wish there were women terrorists in Counter-Strike SO I COULD SHOOT WOMEN IN THE FACE!!!!

That's mis– ... mis– ...

...

That's a mean thing to say.

Blogger Sad Puppy July 23, 2015 10:14 AM  

4. Steve July 23, 2015 8:38 AM
Anti-GamerGate meetup.
---------------

You have given me my first laugh of the day. This gang has Defense Against Beer Goggles +5. And the one obvious guy there looks like someone did his hair with an Etch-a-Sketch.

Blogger Nate July 23, 2015 10:19 AM  

""To better understand the roots of misogyny... “It’s the fear of losing to a woman that kind of irks a lot of men,” Kasumovic, a professor at the University of New South Wales, says. “As a consequence, they lash out in an attempt to remove women from the competitive playing field.""

scared of losing to a girl?

You mean... irritated by listening to a girl chat up the boys on COD instead of actually playing the game?

Anonymous Difster VFM #109 July 23, 2015 10:19 AM  

You guys had some malevolent journalists after you in Paris, but we had a possible FBI infiltrator at Ilkmoot.

Blogger ScuzzaMan July 23, 2015 10:21 AM  

"SHOOT WOMEN IN THE FACE"

Freud would understand...

Blogger Eric Medvich July 23, 2015 10:35 AM  

"Wherever there’s going to be a male bias sex ratio, there’ll probably be this strong hierarchy and a very aggressive way for men to ensure their status above women.”
This person must be very happy that ISIS and Al Qaeda are happy to employ women in their male dominated field.

Blogger Eric Medvich July 23, 2015 10:37 AM  

I think the article was actually a compliment. Being declared not a Supremacist by an article from the paternal father of SJW flapgab is as close to a compliment as you can get on the Left side of the street.

Blogger Jourdan July 23, 2015 10:53 AM  

Voltairean revolutionaries dedicated to liberte' while rejecting egalite'

To the French journalist's credit, in French cultural and political terms, this is actually a fair statement to get across to French readers some aspects of GG that are very strongly Anglo in cultural-political character. He certainly could have done worse, and this is, at least, a sign of some amount of good faith on his part.

Anonymous zen0 July 23, 2015 10:56 AM  

20. Difster VFM #109 July 23, 2015 10:19 AM

You guys had some malevolent journalists after you in Paris, but we had a possible FBI infiltrator at Ilkmoot.




I wonder if , when he files his report, that he balances his depiction so as not to bewilder his superiors any more than necessary and chose to take some harder lines to quiet any inner doubts about his orthodoxy as well?

Surely not!

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian July 23, 2015 10:56 AM  

it was disappointing that he elected to run with the "supremacism" line even after acknowledging that my ancestry made the claims of being a white supremacist absurd

You need to respond by saying:

Why, yes, I am a supremacist. I am Hispanic and I support La Raza. Every white person should be knifed through the gut to the hilt and then have their throats slit. Death to Whitey! Reconquista!

Anonymous Lulabelle (68) July 23, 2015 10:57 AM  

"20. Difster VFM #109 July 23, 2015 10:19 AM

You guys had some malevolent journalists after you in Paris, but we had a possible FBI infiltrator at Ilkmoot."

Huh? Who?

Blogger Salt July 23, 2015 10:58 AM  

You guys had some malevolent journalists after you in Paris, but we had a possible FBI infiltrator at Ilkmoot.

What? No details?

Anonymous rienzi July 23, 2015 11:02 AM  

Unfortunately for VD and others, the SJW's have instituted the "one drop" rule.

One drop of evil white blood running through your veins makes you an evil, privileged, white monster, responsible for every last bit of feelbad on the planet.

From now on white-hispanics, white-apaches, white-aborigines, white-samurai, can no longer hide behind their alleged minority status, and must be outed for the monstrous evil they are.

Anonymous PA July 23, 2015 11:18 AM  

"the SJW's have instituted the "one drop" rule."

And this is how they lose. They give us no incentive to collaborate and make it that much easier to speak the truth.

I realized this during the Zimmerman persecution. Here was the perfect New Diversity Man who mentors black kids, never posted anything politically incorrect on the internet, and yet he got the full Lubyanka treatment.

Blogger David-093 July 23, 2015 11:23 AM  

"Huh? Who?"

I'm tempted to say one of the lurkers, but if they sent someone other than a newbie you probably wouldn't be able to tell. If one was there, did anybody seem nervous, quiet, and seem like they were just there looking around?

Anonymous Difster VFM #109 July 23, 2015 11:28 AM  

We don't think the possible FBI guy was directly related to all of us but to one of us in particular. I won't go in to further details.

The party of interest can give further details if he wishes to.

Blogger David-093 July 23, 2015 11:34 AM  

@Difsters

The plot thickens.

But in all seriousness, I'd be surprised if the FBI wasn't at least checking on the Ilk every now and then. There's more arms in Dread hands than in a National Guard armory.

Anonymous Difster VFM #109 July 23, 2015 11:36 AM  

The crazy thing is that this guy was in my HOUSE! I didn't know about the possible infiltration until after he left.

It seems even more likely that he was an infiltrator based on the fact that there's been no further contact at all.

Anonymous Lulabelle (68) July 23, 2015 11:41 AM  

"The crazy thing is that this guy was in my HOUSE! I didn't know about the possible infiltration until after he left."

So, not one of the lurkers then.

Anonymous Lulabelle (68) July 23, 2015 11:43 AM  

"It seems even more likely that he was an infiltrator based on the fact that there's been no further contact at all."

Not exactly a sure sign......I've tried to contact 2 Ilk since Austin and had no response.

Blogger David-093 July 23, 2015 11:51 AM  

"It seems even more likely that he was an infiltrator based on the fact that there's been no further contact at all."

I think you're right, it doesn't sound like he was there for all of you, but for just one of you. Having worked for a few companies that train people to do things like that, if I wanted to follow the Ilk, simply having a friendly regular presence, having a mundane cover, and showing up to the events would be the way to go. I wasn't at Ilkmoot so I can't say for sure what this guy was.

Anonymous Huckleberry (#87) -- est. 1977 July 23, 2015 11:55 AM  

One drop of evil white blood running through your veins makes you an evil, privileged, white monster, responsible for every last bit of feelbad on the planet.

So like the President, then.

Anonymous Jack Amok July 23, 2015 11:55 AM  

If one wanted to create a graphic featuring four faces of living, recognizable faces of Heroes of the Western/White/Christian world, whom would the Ilk recommend?>

I recommend going with dead heroes instead. Living ones have a habit of disappointing you.

Anonymous Difster VFM #109 July 23, 2015 11:57 AM  

Lulubelle, you should join the FB group.

And no, he was not one of the lurkers. He was the young guy with the wavy hair.

Blogger hank.jim July 23, 2015 12:08 PM  

A disastrous review. I'm not surprised that the actual French white and cultural supremacist chose to call you a white supremacist. He is so into his own ideology that you have no chance to get into his thick skull. Oh well.

Blogger JDC July 23, 2015 12:11 PM  

@Jourdan - Off topic - I sent you an email and the address was returned. If you would like to resend me an email I have some responses for ya. God bless. You can use the email on my blogger profile.

Anonymous BGS July 23, 2015 12:12 PM  

@Steve: That one guy surely got the pick of the litter. I bet he had sow much fun that night.

You better get your eyes checked there is a tranny in the group.

there’ll probably be this strong hierarchy and a very aggressive way for men to ensure their status above women.”called merit

Every white person should be knifed through the gut to the hilt and then have their throats slit. Death to Whitey! Reconquista!

The DOJ would be financially supporting you like Deray.

Anonymous Huckleberry (#87) -- est. 1977 July 23, 2015 12:36 PM  

A shortlist would include Putin, Trump, Snowden... others?

Trump?
He's not an ardent vangaurd of Western Civilization; he sees an underserved submarket in the electorate and he's trying to corner it.

Anonymous Lulabelle (68) July 23, 2015 12:43 PM  

"40. Difster VFM #109 July 23, 2015 11:57 AM

Lulubelle, you should join the FB group."

I will send you a message via FB. Be sure and check your "other" box.


Anonymous Donn #0114 July 23, 2015 12:58 PM  

You sure he wasn't just a freeloader? Did you have out snacks? An open bar?

Anonymous PA July 23, 2015 1:02 PM  

-- [Trump] sees an underserved submarket in the electorate and he's trying to corner it."

If Charles Martel did what he did because he had complexes about being a bastard, he still did what he did.

-- "Living [heroes] have a way of disappointing you."

Any living human being can disappoint you. But an aspirational, forward-looking graphic is indicated.

Blogger Danby July 23, 2015 1:19 PM  

@PA,
Sorry, but Trump has been on the left side his entire life, until he found a way to get attention by pointing out the obvious. He's still full-bore for immigration, he's still all in favor of taking away your guns, he's still got a full-on robot chubby for liberalism.

Anonymous Godscalc July 23, 2015 1:27 PM  

Tangential to the topic, I realize, but I am listening to this discussion between Sargon of Akkad and a detractor (link below), and it is illustrative of how an aspergish, Gamma male manner of behavior is so ineffective and generally off-putting.

They are arguing about whether Gamer Gate should focus more on fighting SJWs or on a more neutral tactic of focusing on "ethics in gaming journalism." On a dialectical level, I actually am more in agreement with the detractor, who thinks the pure "ethics in gaming journalism" tack is naive and in the long run ineffective. But he makes his points with all the typical Gamma anklebiting, passive aggressive, openly aggressive, wanna-be alpha behavior, and he provides a wonderful negative example: DON'T make your arguments in this way, whatever they may be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o51xzYQV2Y4

Anonymous patrick kelly July 23, 2015 1:33 PM  

"You sure he wasn't just a freeloader? Did you have out snacks? An open bar?"

Well it was in Austin. Sometimes I wonder if someone could survive as "homeless" here with a cell phone by just reading FB and Craig's List and showing up at various events or gatherings, scoring food, beer, swag, and finding a place to crash.....

Anonymous Difster VFM #109 July 23, 2015 1:36 PM  

"You sure he wasn't just a freeloader? Did you have out snacks? An open bar?"

He did seem to be familiar with this blog but said he didn't comment. He even seemed to recognize a few of our aliases.

We're not absolutely convinced that he was a Fed, but I put the probability at about 65%.

Blogger Bill July 23, 2015 2:03 PM  

Probably some overlap between Feds and Sad Puppies, could be both.

Anonymous Discard July 23, 2015 3:25 PM  

Trump is shifting the Overton window. He is actually speaking about things that the rest of the GOP will not. That's worth doing.

Anonymous Mr. Rational July 23, 2015 3:49 PM  

communicating a hard-to-translate perspective does not justify inventing your own version of it.

"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand." — Bertrand Russell.

Anonymous Athor Pel July 23, 2015 4:05 PM  

"15. Bill July 23, 2015 9:50 AM
....
Man, they totally got me. You know, I wish there were women terrorists in Counter-Strike SO I COULD SHOOT WOMEN IN THE FACE!!!!
..."



Are there any shooters out there with female enemies that aren't zombies?

I'm trying to think of one but I'm getting nothing.

You would think if game developers were truly misogynists there would be lots and lots of shooting women in the face.

Blogger bob k. mando July 23, 2015 4:39 PM  

55. Athor Pel July 23, 2015 4:05 PM
Are there any shooters out there with female enemies that aren't zombies?



Unreal Tournament doesn't still have skins for chicks? they used too. they used to have skins with bikini bottoms and one of my buddies would try and shoot them in the butt.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper July 23, 2015 4:56 PM  

Athor, Fallout isn't exactly a shooter but 3 , New Vegas and probably 4 which isn't out yet have an abundance of female bad guys, raiders and gang members and a few others

If you prefer to put them to the sword, the elder scrolls series Morrowwind, Oblivion and Skyrim have plenty

Blogger Jim July 23, 2015 5:53 PM  

Are there any shooters out there with female enemies that aren't zombies?

Borderlands 2 has... wait...

Only three? Really?

And you need DLC for two of them. And one might not even count.

Blogger SirHamster (#201) July 23, 2015 7:02 PM  

Are there any shooters out there with female enemies that aren't zombies?

I'm trying to think of one but I'm getting nothing.

You would think if game developers were truly misogynists there would be lots and lots of shooting women in the face.



Half Life had girl ninja black ops. Gears of War has the Beserker, which is technically female ... Mass Effect? There's some shooting of blue alien space babes in at least one of them. No One Lives Forever has female ninjas. Oni is more of a beat 'em up, but had female techninjas.

Had to think pretty hard to get that list, and most of it is violence against female ninjas.

Clearly this ghettoization of female enemies is misogynistic. Moar shooting of females of every type in the face!

Anonymous Whitey McWhite July 23, 2015 7:33 PM  

PA: "A shortlist would include Putin, Trump, Snowden... others?"

Kevin MacDonald.

Yes, his notoriety and mass media acceptability are dubious, but the problem is that the anti-white owners and controllers of the mass media silence heroes. Anyone who has made their peace with this evil social machine to a sufficient extent to get "hero shot" coverage is no hero.

Even Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn became an un-publishable non-person when he started to talk about the wrong things, or rather the wrong people.

In an evil, totalitarian system which is what we have, though it wears the robes of something finer), that's how it is.

If you must have a well-known face, Ann Coulter is trying to save her country.

If you want your righteous, mostly unavailing protests accompanied by actual power, will Antonin Scalia, defender of the Second Amendment, do?

If you want an actual electoral politician who was right, try Nick Griffin, who tried in vain to defend the white girls of Rotherham. He too of course was marginalized, demonized and defeated. (The rapes continued.)

If there are still white people in three hundred years, they will have a very different opinion on who was commendable in this era, compared to the opinions that the usual suspects in academia, the mass media, and the authorizers of monuments promote now. The difference will be on about the same order as pagan Rome's opinion of Saint Peter versus Christendom's opinion of Saint Peter.

Blogger Thordaddy July 23, 2015 8:03 PM  

SJWs play checkers... Vox apparently plays chess... But thordaddy plays chesskers. Credit where credit is due is the only sound economic policy.

They lie with a partial truth and Vox denies revealing a stunning admission.

Blogger Thordaddy July 23, 2015 8:06 PM  

McDonald doesn't believe white man has God-ordained free will and so McDonald BELIEVES white man is spiritless. What fool CAN FOLLOW that duo of belief?

Blogger Thordaddy July 23, 2015 8:11 PM  

I'm not surprised that the actual French white and cultural supremacist chose to call you a white supremacist. He is so into his own ideology that you have no chance to get into his thick skull. Oh well." -- hank

Lol... No hanky... This is HOW rival "white" liberationists annihilate each other with "just cause." AND THE BYPRODUCT is that NO REAL wS ever emerges. Win-win for collective AwS radicals the world over.

Blogger Thordaddy July 23, 2015 8:13 PM  

Vox has made it plain as day...

He is AwS. Period.

What this truly means is then being feverishly denied by all the Ilk.

Anonymous PA July 23, 2015 8:18 PM  

WW, thanks for Scalia and Coulter suggestions. I was indeed looking for contemporary, commonly recognizable, living Americans.

Anonymous PA July 23, 2015 8:19 PM  

Scratch "Americans". I had Putin there. Nick Griffin is another good one.

Anonymous Whitey McWhite July 23, 2015 10:06 PM  

PA, glad to help.

So Jean Raspail, author of The Camp of the Saints, is out, not because he is French rather than American, but because nobody would recognize him, and for your purposes you need faces people will recognize.

Blogger Galt-in-Da-Box July 24, 2015 1:51 AM  

Factor in the KHAZARi$tocracy that Owns "all the lies that's fit to print" and their vested interest in keeping the GeOPapi$t pot stirred and America at perpetual war, and a propagandarticle like this makes perfect sense:
Oy vey, we wouldn't want American goyim to quit borrowing and bombing, lest our Raytheon stocks tank!

Blogger Subversive Saint #249 July 24, 2015 4:16 AM  

What the hell

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