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Thursday, July 16, 2015

Le Monde on GGinParis


A la rencontre du GamerGate, le mouvement libertarien qui veut défendre « ses » jeux vidéo
Le Monde
William Audureau

Meet GamerGate, the libertarian movement to defend "men's" video games. Protean, sometimes violent and a strange nothing, the movement of video game players met Saturday, July 11 in Paris without interposed screens.

Paris, Gare de Lyon, at the stroke of 10 PM. Drinks in hand, forty patrons mingle calmly on the sidewalk in front of a nondescript bar. Three men stand facing them. In a black  jacket over a black T-shirt, the writer known as "Vox Day" speaks to the crowd. "We are the first in decades to successfully oppose the Social Justice Warriors [derogatory term describing feminist and LGBT activists]. I'm right, you may be left, but we fight together. You are not alone," he declares. In the audience, some lift their glasses, slightly ill at ease.

"I'm against reconfiguring this movement for political purposes," says a young programmer with a psychobilly look-- 50s pompadour and an easy familiarity. "I'm 200% anti-racist, I've supported the French antifascist action since the age of fourteen," he adds as if to further distance himself from one of the organizers of the event, Vox Day, a video game programmer and science fiction writer known for his supremacist writings and for having called a black female colleague a "half-savage"-- a remark he repeated Saturday to Le Monde. And yet, the two men were participating in the same rally.

From antifascists to supremacists to ecologists, libertarians, socialists and the apolitical, all political sides were present, even the most extreme, this Saturday, July 11 in this Parisian brasserie, during the first "official" meeting of GamerGate in France...

In many respects, GamerGate comes from the same culture as Anonymous. It springs from the same forums, takes on the same form of hackitivism, tinted with grinning anarchism and harassment; its horizontalist and conservative values are close, but with a more pronounced libertarian hue and a new masculinist core.

 
"We are revolutionaries of freedom" believes Vox Day, who presents himself in a provocative manner as an "extreme libertarian" and cites Voltaire in a triumphant tone. But all do not put as much political motives behind their support of GamerGate. "I like just to play the perfect woman with large breasts," says an amused Elodie, 25, a software developer. "Let them not change my games."

I find it vaguely amusing that even in a clear attempt to do a hit piece on #GamerGate, the mere fact that Mr. Audureau actually covered the GGinParis event, and spoke directly with us, caused him to present a much more balanced piece than we've seen everywhere from NPR to Popular Science.

That's why the media tries so hard to avoid talking to us and prefers to instead talk about us. Because every time we speak, we punch holes in their SJW narrative.

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64 Comments:

Blogger Alexander July 16, 2015 8:43 AM  

I'm impressed with how well you're getting into their heads. When you talk, the paper makes it about Vox. When someone else talks... the paper makes it about how they stand in relation to Vox.

Anonymous Steve July 16, 2015 8:46 AM  

When you talk, the paper makes it about Vox. When someone else talks... the paper makes it about how they stand in relation to Vox.

Sooner or later, we all became what Tyler Durden wanted us to be.

Blogger Shimshon July 16, 2015 8:50 AM  

Vox, I don't know anything about GG in Israel, but if you ever come here for a visit, I'm up for for GGinIsrael.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 16, 2015 8:56 AM  

I suppose you can't use divide-and-conquer without describing what it is you're trying to divide people from. So he can portray you as scarily as possible, but he can't avoid portraying you at all.

And the thing about that is, while "This guy is scary, stay away!" works on many people, there are always some who see it as a challenge: "Hmm, what is it he doesn't want me to see?"

Anonymous Giuseppe July 16, 2015 8:57 AM  

Not too bad.
Plus that picture has a stunningly attractive man in the background, which always helps the profile.

Anonymous Lulabelle (68) July 16, 2015 9:02 AM  

'And the thing about that is, while "This guy is scary, stay away!" works on many people, there are always some who see it as a challenge: "Hmm, what is it he doesn't want me to see?" '

Or, you stop by the see the train wreck, and become persuaded by the arguments presented there.

Anonymous zen0 July 16, 2015 9:03 AM  

> I'll provide a better translation later today.....

Well, I guess I better save this one somewhere. Some of the phrasing makes me 300% half wild.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza July 16, 2015 9:06 AM  

Team GG Paris and beyond.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 16, 2015 9:07 AM  

Yes, I'm looking forward to learning how to dress as "a young computer dressed psychobilly look, easy banana antique and familiarity." I'm picturing something involving flannel and fruit.

Anonymous Lulabelle (68) July 16, 2015 9:09 AM  

And geek glasses with masking tape on the bridge.

Blogger Student in Blue July 16, 2015 9:10 AM  

@Giuseppe
Plus that picture has a stunningly attractive man in the background, which always helps the profile.

Is that you, Giuseppe?

I never realized you had such a long ponytail. I wouldn't describe that as "stunningly attractive" on a man. :)

Anonymous NorthernHamlet July 16, 2015 9:13 AM  

VD

Has anyone ever told you you sorta look like Bruce Willis?

Blogger Alexander July 16, 2015 9:18 AM  

Maybe they're just upset that another group of foreigner victors are in Paris.

Anonymous Krul July 16, 2015 9:23 AM  

"Protean, sometimes violent and a strange nothing"

As bald-faced lies go, this one is almost poetic. It reminds me of the Nothing from the Never-ending Story.

Anonymous Guronzor July 16, 2015 9:27 AM  

I agree that it's a big hit to the usual narrative.
I talked to the man during the event and his main grip is about Deepfreeze.it which does something very "sensitive" and illegal in France by making a list of people. If the site was only talking about the outlets and not the person, he would be ok with it.

Also, on twitter now, he is defending the fact that the most common denominator in everyone in GG is "libertarian" and not misogynist.

Blogger Nate July 16, 2015 9:28 AM  

"I never realized you had such a long ponytail. I wouldn't describe that as "stunningly attractive" on a man. :)"

Given the picture... you should be aware that you apparently just knowingly mocked the Kurgan.

Blogger VD July 16, 2015 9:32 AM  

Has anyone ever told you you sorta look like Bruce Willis?

No, actually. But he was pretty cool in RED, so I'll take it.

Blogger Student in Blue July 16, 2015 9:32 AM  

Given the picture... you should be aware that you apparently just knowingly mocked the Kurgan.

'Who wants to live forever?'

Anonymous Steve July 16, 2015 9:44 AM  

I'm a big fan of the Kurgan.

Let's face it, Christopher Lambert was less convincing as a Scotsman than Sean Connery was as an Egyptian.

And he was mopey. A cardinal sin for any protagonist in my book.

Poor moi! Everybody I love grows old and dies! And I stay young! Aieeeee!

With the Kurgan, you got the complete package:

* Doesn't afraid of nothing
* Cool skull-helmet
* Jokes
* Refreshingly direct approach to the ladies
* Evil-looking sword
* Fan of the rock band Queen
* Master of disguise

If the Highlander sequels had been prequels, and about the Kurgan, they wouldn't have been shite.

Anonymous buzzcut #207 July 16, 2015 9:53 AM  

"Happy Halloween, Ladies! Alalalalalalalalala! Lalalalalalaalalala!"



"Nuns. No sense of humor."

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 July 16, 2015 9:55 AM  

Steve,

It was Clancy Brown. The guy is an excellent actor and has done so many awesome roles over the years, especially voicing Lex Luthor in the DC-animated universe.

Blogger Gunnar von Cowtown July 16, 2015 9:58 AM  

@ Steve
* Jokes
* Refreshingly direct approach to the ladies


Right? The best line of the entire series...
Motel Hooker: My name's Candy.
The Kurgan: ***dismissive snort*** Of course it is.

"If the Highlander sequels had been prequels, and about the Kurgan, they wouldn't have been shite."

I believe I could drink bourbon with you, sir.

Anonymous Ron July 16, 2015 9:58 AM  

Willis is decent on screen, but a limp dick in real life. The man can't throw or take a punch. And the day Vox loses SB to a man half his age, I'm outta here.

Blogger Owen July 16, 2015 10:12 AM  

I liked when he carjacked, turned to the old lady, "Mom." Crooked smile.

Anonymous BGS July 16, 2015 10:22 AM  

Willis is decent on screen, but a limp dick in real life.

And people complain about me giving too much info.

Blogger Russell (106) July 16, 2015 10:30 AM  

Vox Day, the Emmanuel Goldstein of our time, wore black on black as his soul outfit. Vox Day, who might be the head of an organization called "The Rabid Puppies" which might not exist, appeared smaller in real life than he does on the telescreen during the Two Minutes of Hate, exuded evil. But it was a banana antique evil, outdated and not hip at all. Vox Day, programmer of video games, science fiction writer known for his supremacist writing in The Book is a throwback masculinity, driving women all over the world half wild.

"We are revolutionaries of freedom" believes Vox Day, who presents himself provocatively with a giant, flaming sword.

But not all GGers were as bad as Vox Day.

Some were almost tame in comparison. "I like big boobs," rasped the Kurgan, the immortal, murderer and psychopath. He shrugged when asked about his political views. "What does it matter? You'll all be under my heel someday."

Blogger Shimshon July 16, 2015 10:39 AM  

Who knew that Evil wears a lapel pin? What does it say?

Anonymous Giuseppe July 16, 2015 10:39 AM  

Student in Blue,
You philistine. Ponytail, ha! I never had a ponytail even when I had hair on my head!

Anonymous Geoff July 16, 2015 10:43 AM  

26 Russell 106

+1

Blogger SirHamster (#201) July 16, 2015 10:54 AM  

I never realized you had such a long ponytail. I wouldn't describe that as "stunningly attractive" on a man. :)

Are you sure it's not the guy savagely enjoying his imaginary watermelon?

Anonymous BGS July 16, 2015 11:03 AM  

Are you sure it's not the guy savagely enjoying his imaginary watermelon?

Maybe he was the guy describing how big a breast should be.

Anonymous Lulabelle (68) July 16, 2015 11:05 AM  

"Who knew that Evil wears a lapel pin? What does it say?"

It says "I'm with SpaceBunny".

Blogger VD July 16, 2015 11:09 AM  

Who knew that Evil wears a lapel pin? What does it say?

GG. It's a GamerGate logo. #53 made it for me.

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian July 16, 2015 11:11 AM  

Has anyone ever told you you sorta look like Bruce Willis?

Oleg Volk recently caught Vox moon(day?)lighting in Rome as a carabinieri.

here, check out the picture:

!VoxDay Military Police!

Anonymous VFM #0053 July 16, 2015 11:12 AM  

@Shimshon Its the GamerGate logo (courtesy of VFM #0053.1)
@Vox I can help out with the translation if you want

Blogger Student in Blue July 16, 2015 11:16 AM  

@Giuseppe
I am routinely informed by self-proclaimed kick-butt swordsmen that ponytails are very masculine. Especially when accompanied by a ravishing manly beard that totally isn't just a bunch of scraggles.

They never commented on the faint whiff of Cheetoh dust, however, so all I can do is guess.

@BGS
Maybe he was the guy describing how big a breast should be.
"The breast is best when the chest is next to this size."
or
"The ideal breast has to be bigger than my testicular size, which is about yea big."

Blogger JACIII July 16, 2015 11:19 AM  

I don't see a bruce Willis similarity so much as a growing resemblance to Dr Evil. Apropos, n'est-ce pas?

Anonymous Takin' a look July 16, 2015 11:29 AM  

I was expecting warrior monks and viking shieldmaidens.....

Instead, I see the cast of "The Almighty Johnsons"
:-[

Blogger Cee July 16, 2015 11:29 AM  

Registering a vote for putting the bad translation back up so everyone can see the glory of it.

Blogger Danby July 16, 2015 11:37 AM  

@Conan
I didn't know Vox was a paratrooper too.

Anonymous Jack Amok July 16, 2015 11:47 AM  

Yes, I'm looking forward to learning how to dress as "a young computer dressed psychobilly look, easy banana antique and familiarity."

"Easy banana" doesn't sound like a style any self-respecting ilk or minion should strive for.

Anonymous Krul July 16, 2015 11:49 AM  

Jack Amok - ""Easy banana" doesn't sound like a style any self-respecting ilk or minion should strive for."

Except Big Gay Steve.

Anonymous Book_Girl July 16, 2015 11:55 AM  

Has anyone ever told you you sorta look like Bruce Willis?

I actually think he resembles a younger C.S. Lewis.

Anonymous Lulabelle (68) July 16, 2015 11:56 AM  

"Registering a vote for putting the bad translation back up so everyone can see the glory of it."

Agreed.

Anonymous Lulabelle (68) July 16, 2015 11:57 AM  

Bwahahahaha! @Krul

Blogger JCclimber July 16, 2015 12:50 PM  

I'm the only one seeing Vin Diesel in those pics? They even share the same initials.

The comment about the ponytail made me laugh. Out loud. Thank you for that.

I think Highlander was so popular with the ladies because they could love all the three main characters, depending on which time of the month it was. Sean Connery for their sophisticated mode, the Highlander for their strong kickbutt beta phase, and the Kurgan during the couple days at the height of their ovulation cycle.

Anonymous VFM #0053 July 16, 2015 12:53 PM  

FWIW "Banane" ie banana is what the French call a bumbag [UK]/ Fanny pack [US]

I would translate it as "..sporting an old fashioned bumbug..."

Anyway, the whole article is full of snide comments like that: everyone is "over-familiar", "awkward", the organisers are "profiteering latecomers to the movement", everything is appended with "...so they say" and even the venue is snarked at for being "unprestigious"

The MSM narrative is quoted verbatim - poor ZQ was attacked by a hate gang ran by her boyfriend (no mention of ZQs abuse nor her gag order) b/c she "allegedly" did 5 guys, "allegedly" for the promotion. The white knights of journalism came to save her (no mention of the "gamers are dead" articles or "gamejournospro" list which actually set it off)

Someone intelligent enough to read between the lines would recognise the discrepancies between what the interviewees actually said and how the journo interprets their words but since MPAI it's just another MSM hit piece as far as I'm concerned.

I never expected anything different - French language, culture and politics don't have the nuances to accurately describe something like #GG. The article actually describes Free Speech as an American concept - so much for la liberté!

Anonymous WaterBoy July 16, 2015 1:10 PM  

JACIII: "I don't see a bruce Willis similarity so much as a growing resemblance to Dr Evil. Apropos, n'est-ce pas?"

Mais oui...sinon pour le chat manquant.

VFM #0053: "Anyway, the whole article is full of snide comments like that"

So........it's French?

Anonymous Giuseppe The Kurgan July 16, 2015 1:10 PM  

Well it seems that Red Indian style, (how appripriate) the tribe has named me. Oh well, it sort of suits I guess.
And I think Cataline was the original initiator.

But just to be clear of slander:

Some were almost tame in comparison. "I like big boobs," rasped the Kurgan, the immortal, murderer and psychopath.

This is just not true. I prefer smallish ones in general.


He shrugged when asked about his political views. "What does it matter? You'll all be under my heel someday."

True enough.

Anonymous Krul July 16, 2015 1:24 PM  

I have something to say...

Anonymous VFM #0053 July 16, 2015 1:41 PM  

@WaterBoy

Touché

Anonymous Stg58 / Animal Mother #225 July 16, 2015 3:09 PM  

Clancy Brown played the head prison guard in Shawshank Redemption, and the drill instructor in Starship Troopers.

Anonymous Donn #0114 July 16, 2015 4:20 PM  

How could we guess the guy talking with his hands was the Italian?

Anonymous Dave July 16, 2015 4:45 PM  

"I'm 200% anti-small breasts, I've supported the French anti-small breast action since the age of fourteen," he said.

Anonymous Beau July 16, 2015 4:51 PM  

I was expecting warrior monks

...For his letters, say they, are weighty and powerful; but his bodily presence is weak, and his speech contemptible...

Blogger VFM bot #188 July 16, 2015 5:26 PM  

I'm sure no one knew he was going to show up, but in the background, on the right, holding up both hands, is the current governor of Florida, Rick Scott.

Blogger VFM bot #188 July 16, 2015 5:26 PM  

I'm sure no one knew he was going to show up, but in the background, on the right, holding up both hands, is the current governor of Florida, Rick Scott.

Blogger Jack Ward July 16, 2015 5:33 PM  

OK. I've now seen the utube of Vox talking in Paris and this photo. He just does not seem to be the Evil Dark Lord of Evil there. He is a stealth Evil? If so, not bad for a human looking outfit. You just never know these days. Moral: Keep away from Paris.

Blogger Groot July 16, 2015 6:30 PM  

47. VFM #0053:

"French language, culture and politics don't have the nuances to accurately describe something like #GG."

The irony is that there is no French word for "entrepreneur."

Anonymous Godfrey July 16, 2015 8:08 PM  

"...known for his supremacist writings..."


What? I've been coming here for fifteen years. I've never seen any supremacist writing. Did I miss something.

These people never stop lying... especially to themselves.

Blogger J Thomas July 17, 2015 12:30 AM  

I'm a very straight man. But Vox is a good-looking dude.

Blogger SciVo July 17, 2015 12:52 AM  

@ Godfrey:

In order to tell a lie well, you have to convince yourself of it first, so that there aren't any tells. And you're always the easiest person to convince, since you want to believe yourself.

Blogger Groot July 17, 2015 12:52 AM  

I don't think "very" means what you think it means.

Anonymous Takin' a look July 20, 2015 10:56 AM  

Beau, I was joking.

They all look good.

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