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Sunday, July 26, 2015

Why cuckservatives cry

The recent hashtag fireworks between the pro-immigration and anti-immigration right appears to be the second step of a long-awaited political battle that I have expected for more than a decade now. For years, conservatives afraid of being called racist have stupidly attempted to finesse the immigration issue, claiming that "it's not the immigration, it's the illegality" while loudly declaring their support for LEGAL immigration to balance their opposition to ILLEGAL immigration. But the distinction was always meaningless; the behavior of the individual immigrant and the cumulative effects of mass immigration have historically had nothing to do with the legality or illegality of the act of immigration. The intra-Right conflict we're seeing now is in part the result of the Obama Administration punching right through that ridiculous position by simply legalizing larger-scale immigration than before. This is the second step of the battle; the first step was the publication of Ann Coulter's Adios America, which marked the first time a major American conservative media figure besides Pat Buchanan had the courage to finally come out and admit that the real problem with immigration is a) the quality of the immigrants, and b) the quantity of the immigrants.

I am an immigrant myself; my children are second-generation immigrants. Keep in mind that to the extent you consider us to be more-or-less normal Americans, that is precisely how all of the first- and second-generation Mexicans, Chinese, Somalis, and Nigerians living in America are still more-or-less normal Mexicans, Chinese, Somalis, and Nigerians. The only difference is that we've been here longer, we're more integrated, and we speak the language. Potete domandare Giuseppe cosi. Geographical translocation is not magic. Move enough Mexicans into California, you don't make them Californians, you turn California into Mexico. I've seen the same thing over here on a smaller scale in British expat colonies where people who have lived in Italy for 15 years don't speak more than 10 words of Italian, still drink tea instead of espresso and can't cook worth a damn. Being there doesn't feel like Italy, it feels like being in England, and more properly English than Londonistan is these days.

I should probably mention that if you're going to try to disqualify me as an anti-Mexican racist simply because I observe the indisputable truth, my response is simple: va fanculo, my great-grandfather rode with Villa, fought with Villa, and barely escaped Villa's assassins. The truth is the truth regardless of the genetic heritage of the individual observing it.

The Israeli military historian Martin van Creveld has a brilliant essay on the martial implications of immigration that will be published in Volume 2 of Riding the Red Horse, which I am now beginning to assemble. And the remarkable thing is that he reaches a disturbingly similar conclusion to Heartiste's well-known aphorism, Diversity + Proximity = War, only one that is even stronger. One reason the world is in the process of descending into war all over the globe is due to the unprecedented mass movement of peoples - as Umberto Eco pointed out more than a decade ago, to call it "immigration" is fundamentally a misnomer - and the sheer scale of these mass movements makes war inevitable.

Remember, the entry of the Nazis into Austria was arguably more legal than the actions of the Obama administration with regards to immigration. The Nazis even let the immigrated invaded Austrians vote on it in a national referendum, which is something neither the Democrats and the Republican #cuckservatives would permit the American people. But the end result of the Anschluss was no different than the Nazi's subsequent illegal immigration into invasion of Czechoslovakia, Nazi rule.

I think Mike Cernovich's definition of #cuckservative is probably the most useful one. If you are in any way an advocate for those who intend to rape and pillage you and yours, you are a #cuckservative. I also think that what we're seeing is a generational divide. People my age and older tend to view things from a perspective of a permanent white majority. So, they tend to view everything from a view of racial noblesse oblige. They believe America's success can be shared with the New Americans without that success being destroyed.

The younger generation of white Americans know better. They know they are just another racial group among many, larger, more divided, advantaged in some ways, disadvantaged in others, and with a target tattooed on their chests due to their historical "privilege". Those inclined to buy into the rainbow mythology become SJWs or submissive moderates, those who are not don't buy into any of it, including the various aspects of "melting pot" theology in which their conservative elders still foolishly believe. They know that what their elders still think to be theoretically achievable is impossible, because unlike their elders, they didn't grow up with diversity being a theoretical objective to be celebrated, but a terrible reality to be suffered.

The most ridiculous thing about #cuckservatism is that it's an inherently losing strategy. If your primary political objective is to avoid being called racist, you will lose. And then you will be called racist anyhow.

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Blogger Gordon July 26, 2015 6:38 AM  

Well, this isn't going to get you invited to those special dinner parties in Georgetown.

Anonymous Whitey McWhite July 26, 2015 6:45 AM  

Wants to "grow the economy"; doesn't care if his own posterity will be a crushed, crowded-out, discriminated-against minority within someone else's supposedly larger economy: cuckservative.

Blogger VD July 26, 2015 6:53 AM  

Well, this isn't going to get you invited to those special dinner parties in Georgetown.

Been there, done that, got the picture with Jeanne Kirkpatrick....

Anonymous Jack Ward July 26, 2015 7:15 AM  

@3 I would not be bragging too much about that....not around here....

Anonymous Icicle July 26, 2015 7:24 AM  

Good article.

Anonymous SydneyTrads July 26, 2015 7:28 AM  

Related, for the Downunder reader:

We've encountered praise for Australia's Prime Minister among sections of the US alternative right, mostly due to his stance on "boat people" (i.e. our version of foreign illegals). Although Australia has benefited greatly from our watery borders, "girt by sea" as we may be, rest assured the PM here is no less a cuckservative than the rest of them.

His image as some kind of hard-line conservative is a mystery. We covered his election campaign and listed instances of his successful attempts at out-lefting the left on practically all non-fiscal issues relevant to the Culture War. To Tony Abbott, expressions of European identity must of course always be qualified. The results are only to be expected: not only do hostile aliens act out their hatred of the society that mindlessly welcomes them into its fold, but locals who would otherwise be part of that society instead turn to cultures/ideologies which refuse to be cucked by pathological altruism. Ultimately, this feeds a tide of anarcho-tyranny, that shows no signs of retreating.

Simply put: this suicidal pathogen is global and it has the entire West by the throat.

Anonymous DT July 26, 2015 7:28 AM  

@5 If it's possible to favor negative immigration, I'm for it.

Blogger Robert What? July 26, 2015 7:34 AM  

Mexico is basically dumping their underclass into the US. There are middle and upper middle class Mexicans, but they come here as tourists, not as "migrants".

Blogger Shimshon July 26, 2015 7:41 AM  

In Israel we have our illegal immigration problem. It festered for years as tens of thousands of Sudanese And Somalis crossed the incredibly porous Sinai border. Not a thing was done until some elites were mugged, and then a fence was constructed in record time.

We still have lots of them, and the Supreme Court keeps nixing any attempt to segregate them or repatriate them, since virtually all of them admit to seeking better economic opportunities, not asylum. As unpleasant as the war last summer was, it did have the beneficial side effect of causing many of them to leave on their own accord.

Practically everyone but the hard-core left has a much more useful term than "illegal immigrant" to describe them: infiltrators.

Anonymous Idle X July 26, 2015 7:41 AM  

Pictures but no charts?

Anonymous Dirtnapninja July 26, 2015 7:44 AM  

You cannot be a conservative when there is nothing left to conserve. We on the right must become revolutionaries.

Anonymous Idle Spectator, Superpatriot July 26, 2015 7:46 AM  

//raises rifle

I FIGHT FOR THE SINGLE MOTHERS!

Oooo-rah!

Anonymous Logan July 26, 2015 7:49 AM  

I just want to say the quality of this post and the wisdom it contains is a primary example of why I read this blog. Thanks, Vox.

Blogger Justin C July 26, 2015 7:51 AM  

"You cannot be a conservative when there is nothing left to conserve. We on the right must become revolutionaries."

+ This

Anonymous Laz July 26, 2015 7:57 AM  

@9 I worked with a Mexican national once. He showed me pics of his beautiful family and huge villa with 300 acres and several dozen servants. American dollars go so far there that he would sneak across the border to work six months @ $10/hr while living with fifteen other Mexicans in a one bedroom apartment. Then he would go home with enough money to last a year or so before he has to come back for more work.

Blogger YIH July 26, 2015 8:07 AM  

As Hartiste points out, another 'tell' of cuckservatives is the ''MLK was actually a conservative''. On talk radio (regardless of the host), on and around Jan 19 you'll typically hear paeans to King mostly based around that ''I have a dream'' speech.
But when you read what King actually said in an interview with Playboy, among other things, how disingenuous (or ignorant) of history they really are.
They believe America's success can be shared with the New Americans without that success being destroyed. That, of course, was also the mindset of 'black civil rights'. The track record there is obvious.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey July 26, 2015 8:11 AM  

Well said, Vox. It's coming. I've been predicting it for years. I remember being in a postgrad seminar on terrorism and COIN warfare back in 1997-1998, arguing that mass immigration into the West would inevitably produce serious conflict, and that a Muslim force [like ISIS] would rise and attack us in our own countries. My colleagues laughed and dismissed my concerns. Idiots.

Blogger Salt July 26, 2015 8:12 AM  

It's being destroyed. Attention America's Suburbs: You Have Just Been Annexed "Diversity + Proximity", indeed.

There are probably similar efforts being fostered in the EU.

Blogger Edward Isaacs July 26, 2015 8:18 AM  

I feel like I should comment, if only for the sake of becoming (over the course of a year or two) more than another random fuckin' literally-who on this site.

The whole racial nationalism thing rubs me the wrong way. I'm white, I think... at least my skin is white... but why should I care about other white people? They aren't my family. "My race" doesn't matter to me in the slightest. Demographic slides don't affect me personally, and if my children or my children's children end up a little darker than I am, who cares?

The CULTURE is the important thing. Which, I guess, is what Vox is getting at (I'm a little drunk so maybe I'm misreading). But I'm just tired of hearing "gas the kikes race war now" from the /pol/ crowd.

Oh, yeah, this is why I bothered to comment. "Cuckservative." It really is a racial more than a cultural slur. "Oh, so you're okay with the niggers and wetbacks marrying your women and driving your race slowly out of existence?" That's what that means. Or else it's just a way of calling out intellectually inconsistent conservatives (which, from my POV, is all of them--why not go full reactionary?) for being too psychologically beta (and hence likely to be cuckolded) to face the truth.

Really though, "cuck" is a meme and a shitty meme at that. I wish it would die. It's literally on the same level as "I found the beaner" and "How much are you getting per post, Chaim?" It's all just DISQUALIFY.

Blogger VD July 26, 2015 8:24 AM  

The whole racial nationalism thing rubs me the wrong way.

So what. That's like saying "that whole history thing rubs me the wrong way".

The CULTURE is the important thing.

And culture is derived from genetics. You are wrong. That is not what I'm getting at. Race and culture are inextricably intertwined.

Really though, "cuck" is a meme and a shitty meme at that. I wish it would die.

Of course you do. Because it's effective and you're on the other side of that particular issue. Gawker wished #GamerGate would die too.

Blogger Cecil Henry July 26, 2015 8:30 AM  

'At least they weren't racist'-

Well NO. They were racist. They despised and attempted to destroy the racial interests of whites for a money and a little bit of status display.

There;s nothing more racist than GEnocide. Just because you do it with a smile doesnt absolve the crime. They must be accountable.

Africa for Africans, Asia for Asians, White countries for everyone is White Genocide. Nothing more evil than that.

Blogger Josh July 26, 2015 8:30 AM  

Given that Buchanan founded the American Conservative, /pol/ should probably have parodied another site.

Anonymous facepalm July 26, 2015 8:31 AM  

@ 19 Edward Isaacs:

1. Culture comes from race.

2. Why so butthurt over the word cuck? Is it because it hits too close to home?

Blogger Josh July 26, 2015 8:34 AM  

Anyone know what percentage of Ye Olde Internet White Nationalists are: 1 of English descent and 2 not Yankees?

Anonymous NorthernHamlet July 26, 2015 8:36 AM  

VD,

And culture is derived from genetics.

Is consciousness derived from brain matter alone?

Blogger Edward Isaacs July 26, 2015 8:36 AM  

@20 VD

I don't know why you bothered responding to my drunk ass. I'm flattered, though. I'm sure your commenters could eviscerate me well enough. I'm just feeling social, is all.

I think I understand your idea that race and culture are intertwined. I've picked it up from a few previous posts. I'm... I just think that people of different races can legitimately assimilate. Which, you're probably not denying, but I would just prefer to stress that fact a bit more than you do. (I know, another emotional preference. Sue me.)

I don't know how culture is derived from genetics, though. Christianity certainly isn't genetic, but supernatural. Yet Christianity has been the most powerful cultural factor in the West for the past two thousand years (give or take a millenium or five).

>"Because it's effective and you're on the other side of that particular issue."

I can't really parse this right now. Apologies. Suffice it to say I think I agree with you on most issues of substance, but I just enjoy emoting now and then. Or maybe I should say: I'm a gamma who has contempt for rhetoric without dialectic, and "cuck" seems to me like a purely rhetorical slur which functions only to shut down dialectic.

Of course, you don't care about that, because you are focused on winning the culture war. Which is fine. But I'm mainly concerned with pursuing the truth, so that I can know what's right and what's wrong. So I have a reflexive dislike of any rhetoric that is effective enough to make me think irrationally.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 26, 2015 8:37 AM  

"My race" doesn't matter to me in the slightest.

To paraphrase someone about something: You may not care about race, but race cares about you.

another 'tell' of cuckservatives is the ''MLK was actually a conservative''.

Also being big fans of black Republicans like Ben Carson and Herman Cain, idolizing them and declaring them to be conservatives far beyond what their actual positions call for.

The hope is: "If I can just convince leftists that I'm not an evil racist, they'll listen to me and come to see the truth." Problem is, leftists already know conservatives aren't racist. That's just an exceptionally useful lie to beat them with, so that strategy is hopeless.

It's kinda like the way men in tech embrace the rare girl who enters the field and promote her far beyond what her work deserves, hoping she'll maybe someday possibly sleep with one of them.

Blogger Josh July 26, 2015 8:37 AM  

Is consciousness derived from brain matter alone?

If you say neural network three times, wrf3 will show up...

It is predestined.

Anonymous Gary July 26, 2015 8:37 AM  

"And culture is derived from genetics."

I just had this discussion with a friend of mine which was long coming. He was asked just to observe the actions of the vibrants and remove the lens of race. As a group, they don't belong in the west. I did point out that there were members of the "vibrant group" who fell to the right side of their bell curve but by and large most were far to the left side of the bell curve of whites.

Who would you rather be living next to?

I was raised by a single mother for part of my life and had a black step-father in my teens. He was a good man who worked hard and had excellent work ethic even been the Air-force during the Korean war. It wasn't until later in life did I understand he was the exception not the rule and it is getting worse. He despised blacks who didn't pull their weight, it made him look bad.

Blogger Chester Lyman July 26, 2015 8:38 AM  

GAMMA TIP OF THE DAY: Declare yourself drunk at the outset of an internet argument, so that when you lose in a humiliating fashion, you have a built in excuse.

Blogger Josh July 26, 2015 8:40 AM  

Also being big fans of black Republicans like Ben Carson and Herman Cain, idolizing them and declaring them to be conservatives far beyond what their actual positions call for.


Crackers for Carson!

Blogger Edward Isaacs July 26, 2015 8:43 AM  

@30

Wow, I'm being featured on "Gamma Tip Of The Day"? What an honor! I'm glad to see my highly original ideas finally get the recognition they deserve.

Of course, no one could possibly be drunk at 7:41 in the morning on Sunday after staying up all night watching Hellsing on Hulu.

Anonymous Gary July 26, 2015 8:46 AM  

" I just think that people of different races can legitimately assimilate."

Oh I think this is true as well under the right conditions. It isn't happening here in the US for a number of reasons. Number One being they are not being asked to assimilate.

Were being invaded and the invaders are bringing their language and culture with them.

Seal the borders. Initiate Operation Wetback II. Shut down all immigration for 20 years or more. Make it a felony to hire illegals. Make English the language of the land.

Blogger Chester Lyman July 26, 2015 8:46 AM  

Of course you can be drunk that early in the morning, it's part of the je ne sais quoi of Section 8.

Blogger VD July 26, 2015 8:47 AM  

I just think that people of different races can legitimately assimilate.

And they can, to a point. Especially in good times when everyone has plenty of food, shelter, and material wealth. And when bad times come, they start killing each other.

You and your fellow assimilationists are going to have an absurd amount of blood on your hands and it could all have been easily avoided by simply respecting the lessons of history. But you were more concerned about not feeling racist and celebrating diversity.

Blogger Josh July 26, 2015 8:47 AM  

Or maybe I should say: I'm a gamma who has contempt for rhetoric without dialectic, and "cuck" seems to me like a purely rhetorical slur which functions only to shut down dialectic.

The best rhetorical way for you to counter the "cuck" mean would be to ask them to show them on the doll where the (Jew/Black/Hispanic/Asian) touched them. Or ask them the name of the girl they had a crush on who dated a black guy in high school.

Blogger Guitar Man July 26, 2015 8:58 AM  

@24, You mean these Yankees?

Anonymous Whitey McWhite July 26, 2015 9:00 AM  

Edward Isaacs @26 : "I don't know why you bothered responding to my drunk ass."

Be sure to tell us when replying to you won't be picking on a drunk guy.

Blogger Josh July 26, 2015 9:02 AM  

@24, You mean these Yankees?

Well they are from NORTH Carolina...

Anonymous pdimov July 26, 2015 9:03 AM  

Edward Isaacs @19 "I'm white, I think... at least my skin is white... but why should I care about other white people? They aren't my family. "My race" doesn't matter to me in the slightest."

Because white privilege. And slavery.

All other races consider you white. They don't care that you don't consider yourself white. You can afford this kind of thinking in a 90% white country, not in a 40% white country.

Or, stated differently, you can afford not to be a white nationalist when you already live in a white nation.

@26: "I'm... I just think that people of different races can legitimately assimilate."

They obviously can. Look at Mexico, Brazil, pretty much the whole of South America. Portugal, if you will.

Blogger Edward Isaacs July 26, 2015 9:07 AM  

@33 Gary

I pretty much agree with this. The current system of immigration is effed up beyond belief. Close the borders, make English the language, crack down on illegals. All cool with me.

@35 VD

"You and your fellow assimilationists"

I feel like you're reading me wrong, and I wonder what I said that made you classify me like that. (Seriously, though, I feel bad that I'm wasting your time like this. I think I'll just retreat to the shadowy depths of lurkerdom after this post.)

@36 Josh

Ahahahahahaaha... okay, those are pretty good.

@38 Whitey McWhite

See, I revealed that information as a kind of self-deprecation. I thought people would take me less seriously as a result. I wasn't trying to get special treatment! Ugh...

@40 pdimov

So the idea is, that I am liable to be discriminated against by other races, even if I myself am "color-blind" as they say? And that therefore, for my own self-interest, I should try to halt the spread of vibrancy in America?

Well, that's a good point. Thank you.

Blogger Salt July 26, 2015 9:09 AM  

He despised blacks who didn't pull their weight, it made him look bad.

Got into a conversation with a black USMC gunnery sergeant. He despised seeing the male black kids hanging out, pants down low, arm over their white-trash trailer park squeeze. He brought up the separation of the races as a cultural norm; work / business around each other but home is separated. "People need to be amongst their own kind," he said. I'd think he'd agree with Vox's 'time to civilization' posit.

Anonymous guest July 26, 2015 9:11 AM  

>to call it "immigration" is fundamentally a misnomer

Völkerwanderung would be the more appropriate term.
It's akin to the re-location of whole nation states!

California alone has now 20 million Hispanics, to put this in perspective:
that's like the population of Sweden, Finland & Norway put together!

Hell, my home country of Slovenia only has 2 million people in TOTAL.
No wonder we have a shooting order on anyone wearing a sombrero!

p.s. have you been VOX? It's just around the corner from Italy...

Anonymous Gary July 26, 2015 9:14 AM  

"So the idea is, that I am liable to be discriminated against by other races, even if I myself am "color-blind" as they say?"

Yes. Why do you think vibrants are going to look at you as one of their friends? On the contrary, you are the enemy. La Raza literately translates as "The Race" as in "The Master race" You are the invader; ignoring the inconvenient fact they speak SPANISH who displaced all the indigenous people in the region.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey July 26, 2015 9:17 AM  

"The CULTURE is the important thing."

This falsehood is central to the cuckservative worldview.

Anonymous Godfrey July 26, 2015 9:18 AM  

When is Israel going to allow large scale immigration? And why not?

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey July 26, 2015 9:18 AM  

I think cuckservatives would rather die than be seen as "racist".

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey July 26, 2015 9:20 AM  

"I pretty much agree with this. The current system of immigration is effed up beyond belief. Close the borders, make English the language, crack down on illegals. All cool with me."

Also, deport, transfer non-Whites (illegal and legal).

Anonymous Book_Girl July 26, 2015 9:21 AM  

It too late for America. There are too many immigrants (Mexicans are the majority, but don't forget about the increasing number of Arab Muslims coming here), and by the time white America wakes up to the fact fully, it will be way too late to deport in any meaningful fashion.

Balkanization and low level civil war, I guess.

200 years from now, the history books will not be kind to those who fostered and supported this.

Blogger Guitar Man July 26, 2015 9:22 AM  

Too many Yankees have moved to North Carolina. My options are becoming slim if I want to escape the prison known as the northeast.

Blogger Chester Lyman July 26, 2015 9:23 AM  

@47 Being outgrouped, which for the cuckservative means being declared a "racist," is psychologically perceived as a death sentence. Which makes sense in a traditional tribal setting of our ancestral environment. Not so much in 21C America.

If the cuckservatives would refuse to play along, the outgrouping threat would disappear, and the whole edifice of bullshit would collapse over night.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey July 26, 2015 9:25 AM  

Low-level civil war is what we have now.

We need to work to escalate it to the next stage.

Let's get it in the open.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 26, 2015 9:26 AM  

"cuck" seems to me like a purely rhetorical slur which functions only to shut down dialectic.

No, it's a purely rhetorical slur which functions to make a point in one word better than it can be conveyed with thousands of words of reasoned argument. It works best on people who wouldn't know dialectic if it bit them on the ass.

Edward's concerns reflect the commonly-believed false dichotomy that says the only alternative to wide-open borders and multiculturalism is a boring, monochrome society where all the music is made by Pat Boone clones, all your friends look and act just like you, and there's not a fine booty-shakin to be seen anywhere. But that's obviously false. Japan is famously closed and monocultural, yet it makes room for that hairy white guy who sings in a schoolgirl outfit.

A few thousand war brides coming back from the Middle East and living with their husbands spread out across the country would not have been a problem. Millions of Middle Easterners being imported in groups and placed into enclaves is a big problem. There's both a quantitative and a qualitative difference between them, and it has nothing to do with their legality. One works with the "melting pot" effect and the other prevents it. We didn't have to block all immigration and kick out all "guests," if we'd limited immigration to the first sort much sooner.

But in the name of anti-racism and a blind faith in the power of "America" to accomplish the impossible, moderates and cuckservatives have been helping the left to push things to the point where the normals will be forced to react in self-defense. And when they finally get mad enough to get past their fear of being called racist, their reaction won't be smiling and measured; it'll be Ralphie on Scut Farkus. Is that what they want?

Anonymous Gary July 26, 2015 9:28 AM  

"I think cuckservatives would rather die than be seen as "racist"."

Throw it back at them. Point out the reason why the jails are full of black men. Because they break the damn law more than whites. Point out the rape ratio of black on whites vs whites on blacks. Point out how blacks murder other blacks at horrific rates but the race baiters do nothing.

They crucified Cosby for pointing this all out and I would not be a bit surprised if his falling from liberal grace of late has something to do with it. Blacks kill other blacks, blacks rape and knock up other blacks, blacks sell each other drugs. Whitey isn't destroying blacks in America, other blacks and the Dem-o-rat party is. The dem party is full of blacks who are just as content to throw other blacks under the bus to keep their power and graft flowing.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey July 26, 2015 9:28 AM  

"Cuckservative is pure poetry.

The way to inform and recruit our fellow Whites isn't through long academic essays full of fancy jargon, but through art.

Blogger YIH July 26, 2015 9:29 AM  

For those who think ''Trump is the answer'', no he's not. Hear it straight from the horse's ass. He's going to do everything for immigration restriction that he did for the USFL.
I still say he'll be out by October (despite that 'run as third party' noise) because his Herman Cain moment is yet to happen - but it will, and then he'll quit.
Then he's go back to being a Lizard Queen supporter.

Anonymous Proud redneck July 26, 2015 9:31 AM  

As Nick Searcy, Larry Correia, Ace of Spades, Robert Stacey McCain, Instapundit, Rick Wilson and a ton of other sane conservatives have pointed out...

Users of the 'cuckservatives' slur are either:

A) Racist white supremacists, Stormfags who, like all Nazis, are really left-wing progressives...

B) Trump-humping operatives, probably in the paid service of Hilliary, using sock-puppets and fake accounts to destroy the GOP from within in some sort of black-ops smear campaign.

I plead with you Vox, don't get manipulated by these scum. This is going to give bad PR to all our efforts. We don't need racists or Trump-humping trolls smearing all our progress!!

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey July 26, 2015 9:32 AM  

The art of memes.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey July 26, 2015 9:33 AM  

"like all Nazis, are really left-wing progressives.."

"Nazis = left-wing" <---- another Cuckservatve view

Anonymous Homesteader July 26, 2015 9:34 AM  

Cuckservative is excellent. I fear it may be too late, though.

Remember, the goal is white genocide. The methods are all Frankfurt school, worldwide. (Who at the time thought they should be brought to New York?)

I do wonder what they think they're achieving, though. Compulsive O.D.D. aside, do they think they can survive without us? (Barbara Lehrner Spectre is the poster child for Ashkenazi compulsiveness-her crazy eyes video on Youtube is classic.) I suspect they are just the tools being used by the Other.

I suppose, ultimately, we are reaping what we have sown. We can't blame anyone but ourselves. The Frankfurters would have no effect on a moral people. But when nations embrace evil, as we in White Christendom have, can judgement not follow? Even if others have pushed it, the American people accepted the horrific. From abortion to pornography to military adventurism, to the infantile "we're all immigrants",
from atheism to socialism to feminism, we've fallen for them all. Did we think the bill wouldn't come due?

Now, 50 million unborn souls cry out our guilt. Sodom and Gomorrah foretell our judgement.

If we are displaced in our own lands, have we not earned it?

If we are lucky, God will leave a remnant to rebuild.

Blogger Chester Lyman July 26, 2015 9:34 AM  

@56 Does anyone seriously think Trump will save America, besides some desperate conservakins?

I just want the Donald to destroy the GOP's legitimacy as a political party, a perfectly plausible scenario that the Donald doesn't even need to be consciously out to accomplish.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey July 26, 2015 9:35 AM  

Whites must fight the "little civil war" amongst ourselves, first, before we take on the wider world of White liberals, White SJWs, and their Orc hordes.

Anonymous Gary July 26, 2015 9:37 AM  

"For those who think ''Trump is the answer'', no he's not."

I'll settle for Trump building the damn fence.

Think like the left; you can't get everything in one bite so you go after it in chunks.

Trump terrifies the losers on the left and right. In all fairness he is an old school liberal who is to the right of even most of the GOP establishment.

The man fights, we need him. He is pushing the Overton window in the direction it needs to go. Now if Cruz or Walker would follow his lead... it would be gold. The media and their ilk need to be ruthlessly attacked, Trump is showing the way to victory.

Blogger Chester Lyman July 26, 2015 9:38 AM  

@57 Yes, Proud Redneck, we are well aware of the talking points that Conservative Inc. put out. I read Ace's post on Friday and needed a shower afterwards.

Are there a lot of Nazis on the alt right? Sure. Are they annoying at times? Yep. Am I going to denounce them? Hell no.

Anonymous A Visitor July 26, 2015 9:40 AM  

"I also think that what we're seeing is a generational divide". We are as well as a political divide. My thoughts on the subject are well known. #cuckservative, heh, I like it.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey July 26, 2015 9:40 AM  

Kuehnelt-Leddihn, I believe, was one of the first right-liberals to make the "Nazis = left-wing" argument.

It was distributed throughout the post-war Cuckservative, Inc. movement as a way to try to discredit White racial Nationalists.

This falsehood persists today.

Anonymous Godfrey July 26, 2015 9:43 AM  

The term is National Socialists, not "Nazis".

Anonymous paradox July 26, 2015 9:43 AM  

The libertarians are the worst pro-immigration forces, and the pro-immigration conservatives only parrot them. Disagree with them and you're a fascist . Tucker reads like an emotional woman. I can't stand Trump, but it's funny these libertarians are having PMS over him.

Blogger Chester Lyman July 26, 2015 9:45 AM  

@66 You can get away with Nazis as Left in the American political context, due to the traditional anathema to any sort of socialism in the American right. Outside of that context though, it's absurd, and it let's the Left win arguments.

The only person who can plausibly declare Nazis leftist is James Donald, and he's rhetorically to the right of Cato the Younger.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey July 26, 2015 9:51 AM  

Free-market capitalists are the original liberal-progressives here.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey July 26, 2015 9:57 AM  

OT: Vox, are you going to post a review of Cernovich's book? Looks very interesting, but his personality and behaviour on Twitter give me doubts about its soundness.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 26, 2015 9:58 AM  

A cuckservative will lecture you white man on your white privilege, and that symbiosis is the weak spot in the rhetorical war in today's politics.

You can tell every Jeb the cuck Bush clone wannabee that they can stop lecturing you about your white privilege.

The Left has handed us an axe with the phrase "white privilege" we should swing it at their heads.

Anonymous Spudgun July 26, 2015 10:01 AM  

PROTIP:

If you want to trigger a cuckservative, ask them:

"Do you even like white people? Why do you hate white families?"

On Twitter, my experiments show you will trigger a cuck about 1000 faster than a SJW.

Cuckservatives will literally lose their sh/t ...shock, sputtering with rage, screaming "racist" and blocking you. Mass blocks and preemptive blocks are now happening.

It is remarkable, I suggest you try experimenting this yourself.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey July 26, 2015 10:02 AM  

Interestingly, it was the "Cuckservative" government of Margaret Thatcher that tried to get the ban on Sunday shopping lifted in England in 1986.

Anonymous Whitey McWhite July 26, 2015 10:03 AM  

A race is a large extended family with a degree of in-breeding.

To say "I am exempt from all duty to my race, because I lack all human feeling toward fellow members of my race" is no better than to say, "I am exempt from all duty to my nuclear family, because I lack all human feeling for them."

The argument doesn't prove the person making it is relieved of any obligation, much less that they are on a higher moral plane.

A herd animal that doesn't protect fellow members of its kind, that is indifferent between its own kind and parasites and predators creeping among the calves, is a bad creature of its kind.

So too, a human being that doesn't do what it can for its own kind is a bad human being. It is defective. It is not attracted to that which it ought to be drawn, and as a result it becomes unnatural.

For example, the end to which marriage is naturally directed is multi-generational continuity. The wiping away of the race (for example by mass immigration and forced assimilation, so that all native gene lines terminate) breaks the chains of ancestry and descent that marriages build.

A family that fails to go on may not be defective in any way. The volcano erupts; everybody dies; bad luck. But a family that doesn't have in it by nature a principle of life that directs it to do on, a family that innately tends to sterility, is radically defective. And the members of that family, parts of a defective while, are thereby also flawed.

The same truth, that we ought to attend to the continuing good of those that are related to us, including the fellow members of our race, can be shown in a different way: through interest. Every kind of creature has an interest in perpetuating its own genetic kind, and (for human beings) this is an interest that can only be pursued collaboratively. (Typically in some well-related extended family, such as the inhabitants of a city-state.) Others have an interest in you doing your part, and you have an interest on others doing their part. To be a free-rider and to cause the failure of this most important shared project (in as far as you have any say about it) is bad.

If you are part of a subsistence farming family, and you decamp with enough of the animals and the seed corn to last you for a lifetime, leaving the collective project to fail, it doesn't make it all right to argue: "I have no obligation toward the others because I have no feeling toward them."

Cuckservatives depart from what is right in at least three ways. One is hypocrisy: they claim to be conserving when in the most fundamental way they are not doing so. The next is that they're essentially traitors: their effect on genetic / grand family / racial continuity is the same as that of someone who welcomes in an invading army. Third and last, they're contemptible because they're comfortable with the betrayal and replacement of those related to them. They spend their own resources, and the resources that should belong to the children most closely related to them, on strangers who like cuckoos push out the true descendants of the group. In essence, cuckservatives really are cuckolds.

Anonymous paradox July 26, 2015 10:05 AM  

Chester Lyman @69

Yes, I would call the NSDAP Leftwing on any political model. However, I would call fascist, Franco (really traditionalist), Engelbert Dollfuss, Pinochet, and Codreanu... Rightwing.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey July 26, 2015 10:06 AM  

Well said, Mr McWhite. That is the essence.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey July 26, 2015 10:07 AM  

The Cuckservative position on the Nazis is that somehow they were "liberal".

I laugh.

Anonymous zen0 July 26, 2015 10:07 AM  

@56 Proud Redneck

> We don't need racists or Trump-humping trolls smearing all our progress!!

Is this a parody?

If not............. What progress?
Surely you mean regress.

Anonymous The Obvious July 26, 2015 10:11 AM  

Cuckservatives depart from what is right in at least three ways. One is hypocrisy: they claim to be conserving when in the most fundamental way they are not doing so. The next is that they're essentially traitors: their effect on genetic / grand family / racial continuity is the same as that of someone who welcomes in an invading army. Third and last, they're contemptible because they're comfortable with the betrayal and replacement of those related to them. They spend their own resources, and the resources that should belong to the children most closely related to them, on strangers who like cuckoos push out the true descendants of the group. In essence, cuckservatives really are cuckolds..

Now that you said it, that sounds alot like rabbit behaviour.

Anonymous VFM 0046 July 26, 2015 10:14 AM  

Culture VS. Race is really a moot point. Today, genetic science indicates a strong influence of race over culture. If tomorrow we learn that cultures are more strongly shaped by mother's milk than father's blood, the fact that Mexico is Annexing Southern California remains.

Perhaps in a thousand years, large groups of people who want to destroy your way of life will no longer be color coded for your convenience. But that has zero to do with what's going to happen in our lifetimes or our children's.

Blogger Josh July 26, 2015 10:14 AM  

"Nazis = left-wing" <---- another Cuckservatve view

If the left to right spectrum runs from totalitarianism to anarchism, the national socialists are left wing.

However, you might be using the terms differently.

How do you define left wing and right wing?

Anonymous TroperA July 26, 2015 10:15 AM  

I'm curious as to how much Conservative support for immigration is status-signaling and how much is a desire to secure a non-citizen workforce that drives down wages for Conservative-owned Corporations. I wonder how much good old fashioned greed is at the center of this issue.

Now would be a good time to watch (or re-watch) the Twilight Zone episode "The Shelter". Seeing the formerly chummy neighbors turn on each other once SHTF is instructive. (The Mexican of the group also gets his ass beat by one of the SWPLs, who probably considered himself a good progressive liberal before the shite started flying....)

The episode also teaches an important lesson: First Rule of Building a Bomb Shelter Club: Don't Tell Anyone You're Building a Bomb Shelter.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey July 26, 2015 10:18 AM  

Is there such a thing as Cuckface?

I've seen a few examples recently that have persuaded me that there is.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey July 26, 2015 10:19 AM  

The real liberals, of course, are the capitalists.

Anonymous Poli_Mis July 26, 2015 10:21 AM  

This is what it sounds like, when cucks cry

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 26, 2015 10:22 AM  

Nothing good comes from the Blank Slate Theory, the social signaling comes from both sides, SWJ and devout Church Ladies both are guilty of shameless social signaling.

Blogger VD July 26, 2015 10:22 AM  

So the idea is, that I am liable to be discriminated against by other races, even if I myself am "color-blind" as they say? And that therefore, for my own self-interest, I should try to halt the spread of vibrancy in America?

That's part of it, but the more important part of it is that America will cease to be America due to open immigration.

As Nick Searcy, Larry Correia, Ace of Spades, Robert Stacey McCain, Instapundit, Rick Wilson and a ton of other sane conservatives have pointed out...

Users of the 'cuckservatives' slur are either:

A) Racist white supremacists, Stormfags who, like all Nazis, are really left-wing progressives...

B) Trump-humping operatives, probably in the paid service of Hilliary, using sock-puppets and fake accounts to destroy the GOP from within in some sort of black-ops smear campaign.


That's totally false. They're either incorrect or lying.

I plead with you Vox, don't get manipulated by these scum. This is going to give bad PR to all our efforts.

That is straight-up shilling. "Bad PR" is the boogeyman of the shill. No one is manipulating me. This is an area where I agree completely with the neoreactionaries.

Anonymous Whitey McWhite July 26, 2015 10:28 AM  

Thanks, Laguna Beach Fogey and The Obvious.

Blogger VD July 26, 2015 10:32 AM  

Interestingly enough, I didn't recall Instapundit pointing out anything at all about those of us who criticize cuckservatives, so I did a search for "cuckservative" on Instapundit.

No posts found. Try a different search?

Are cuckservatives are the SJWs of the Right?

Blogger Joel #0164 July 26, 2015 10:35 AM  

@57

If your reaction to the #cuckservative meme is to yell "racist!, white supremacist!, Nazi!," you might be a cuckservative.

If you think the Nazis were really left-wing progressives, you might be a cuckservative.

If you think Hillary Clinton operatives have anything to do with #cuckservative ("Democrats are the real racists!!"), you might be a cuckservative.

If you think denouncing the "bad people" will gain you respect from the left, you just might be a cuckservative.

You're an absolute idiot, Proud Redneck. You have learned nothing. If you "sane conservatives" want to keep caring about what the left thinks of you and continue to lose as a consequence, then that's up to you. But don't expect the rest of us to follow you off the cliff.

Anonymous 0007 July 26, 2015 10:37 AM  

VD: "The younger generation of Americans know better."
I 'spect you might be surprised at the number of us old farts who know better as well. Not all of us drank the Kool-Aid when it was offered to us over the years...

Anonymous Gary July 26, 2015 10:45 AM  

"The Left has handed us an axe with the phrase "white privilege" we should swing it at their heads."

I laugh at the whole "white privilege" thing, its such a farce.I'm where I'm at now through shear dint of will and the willingness to take on any job no small or large.

Being more stubborn than the next guy. Willing to think outside the box. Being willing to step on toes when people were being stupid.

The owner of the facility I'm now employed at stated in a review 3 days ago I'm the best man he ever hired for the position bar none in 40 years. Being white had nothing to do with it. Being an asshole and getting the job done as I'm directed to do so no matter what has everything to do with it. Being highly skilled, experienced and innovative doesn't hurt either.

The only place I see white privilege is among the ruling class. If you go to certain schools and have certain parents doors just open for you like magic.

Just think of that loser Chelsea Clinton. She has all the warmth and talent of a sea sponge but is at the trough collecting her 6 figure paycheck. Should be running a cash register at the local 7-11.

Blogger David-093 July 26, 2015 10:47 AM  

@Proud Redneck

What's he phrase I'm looking for?

Oh that's right...

We don't care.

Anonymous Gary July 26, 2015 10:48 AM  

"If you "sane conservatives" want to keep caring about what the left thinks of you and continue to lose as a consequence, then that's up to you. "

What is that old saying?

WE DON'T CARE.

Let that be your mantra for success.

Anonymous Gary July 26, 2015 10:50 AM  

@ David-093

Damnit man you treed me by a minute or less! lol

Blogger David-093 July 26, 2015 10:51 AM  

Gamergate and PPGate are lead by Xers, fought by Xers and Milkennials. Vox and the others starting these fights and many Millennials following his lead will only intensify as the fights become bigger, more well-known, and more widespread.

Xers lead, Mills follow. What about the Boomers? Try as I bloody might you simply cannot get them to abandon ship on "the ways things are supposed to be". And fighting this way is mean.

So Vox saying that the younger Americans know is true, in part because of what we've grown up seeing and experiencing, and another part because of what we've read on the Internet from Xers like him.

The message is spreading, slowly, but it's spreading.

Blogger David-093 July 26, 2015 10:52 AM  

@Gary

Ha! It was down to seconds on that one

Blogger David-093 July 26, 2015 10:54 AM  

"Are cuckservatives are the SJWs of the Right?"

Cuckservatives always lie (back and take it).

Anonymous PA July 26, 2015 11:02 AM  

We GenXers have the unique perspective in that we grew up in a normal country and upon entering adulthood -- circa 1990 -- we saw our future taken away from us.

OpenID xsyq July 26, 2015 11:03 AM  

Would someone please explain how the National Socialist German Workers Party is right-wing?

Blogger Josh July 26, 2015 11:06 AM  

Would someone please explain how the National Socialist German Workers Party is right-wing?

Because snappy uniforms?

Blogger VD July 26, 2015 11:09 AM  

Would someone please explain how the National Socialist German Workers Party is right-wing?

They were German nationalists. Almost all their other policies were left-wing.

Anonymous zen0 July 26, 2015 11:10 AM  

@93 Gary

Just think of that loser Chelsea Clinton. She has all the warmth and talent of a sea sponge but is at the trough collecting her 6 figure paycheck. Should be running a cash register at the local 7-11.



"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?

"Because her real father's Janet Reno."


---- The Honorable John McCain ....... Republican fundraiser 1998

Blogger Sad Puppy July 26, 2015 11:12 AM  

@9

Practically everyone but the hard-core left has a much more useful term than "illegal immigrant" to describe them: infiltrators.
------------

Try invaders. And we are the proverbial frogs in the pot.

Anonymous Jack Ward July 26, 2015 11:16 AM  

VD you mentioned that one of your ancestors fought with Villa. Could you share his name? For a time, I was related by marriage to a man who fought with Villa. He was Matilde Lopez and he once showed me the rifle, a single shot, and his sword that he used. He was mostly Yaqui Indian, or all, though there may have been some mestizo heritage there. Quite an interesting old dude. At the time with Villa he was about 18 or so. His wife liked to ask him why the hell he went riding off with Villa, and off they would go. It was hilarious. I think to the end he thought the Revolution was worth it.

Blogger JaimeInTexas July 26, 2015 11:16 AM  

@50 I ended up in Charlotte, N. Carolina from 1995-8. Due to banks moving their main offices there, the influx of northeasteners was huge, along with what I termed cosmopolitans, the N. Carolinians returning home. The friction with the locals was palpable. A Bostonian told me that he found Charlotteans to be provincial.
I made some goid friends there but I reurned to Texas as soon as I could.

Anonymous paradox July 26, 2015 11:17 AM  

Josh @82

You're on the binary political model. The four quadrant model is more descriptive.

Anonymous Drogger July 26, 2015 11:17 AM  

Good to see you're all aboard Vox.

We should all be watchful of the talking heads and pundits that try to redefine the term into something else (Kevin Lewis tried to make it out as a form of anti-Christian bigotry). Find 'em and correct em at all points.

Blogger Daniel July 26, 2015 11:25 AM  

The cuckservative has an easy and obvious argument against Vox, but he will never make it, because he will never see it, because he not only doesn't understand himself or his enemy...he doesn't even know who his enemy is.

Blogger JaimeInTexas July 26, 2015 11:28 AM  

NAZIS were nationalists, sure, and hated Communists but they certainly looked international in some things.

Anonymous PA July 26, 2015 11:33 AM  

I find the graphic models of Left vs Right of little utility because the factors that "quantify" what is left or right are context-based and often promoted by their various parties opportunisticly or by necessity. Even nationalism is a relative quality. At the end of the day, governing is not about philosophy but about folk temperament and Realpolitik.

The essence of Right vs Left is best understood as follows:

Right is the politics of truth.
Left is the politics of power.

Anonymous Eric Ashley July 26, 2015 11:34 AM  

The Nazis are just the opposite side of the coin from the Soviets..
Chief differences as follows:
1. Hitler was an artist; Stalin was a bueraucrat.
2. German national character (orderly, mechanical craftsmen) vs. Russian (drunken poets)
3.Time horizon (Hitler believed his descendants would be idiots so he had to get it done NOW; Stalin had patience as Communism was a Historical Inevitability.)
4. One was more populist; the other more intellectual.
5. One hated Jews and Slavs; the other hated kulaks and evidently Ukrainians.

As to other nations view of conservatism, I don't care. This is an American discussion.

As to calling me cuckservative, or racist, heh. as McCain says 'RAAAAACISM has five A's.' And to be honest, considering my views about Arabs, I am racist.

Blogger David-093 July 26, 2015 11:38 AM  

"We GenXers have the unique perspective in that we grew up in a normal country and upon entering adulthood -- circa 1990 -- we saw our future taken away from us. "

This is it. My dad is among the oldest of the Xers and he remembers watching the moon landing on TV as a child, as well as the changing morals and decline of the 70s and 80s as a teen. Millennials? We remember a happy childhood in the 90s, and then a precipitous decline in the 00s that turned very dark in 10s. For us the problem seemed to immediately hit after 9/11 and then just get worse every year from there on out.

Blogger JaimeInTexas July 26, 2015 11:39 AM  

@56 Look at the batch of contenders in the GOP. Is there anyone else not in already, that will be THE one. Don't think so.
So, Trump is the answer. My answer anyway. I will finally just get big bowls of popcorn and watch and show and at least be amused. If Trump somehow makes it to the White House, will he realky be worse than predecessors?
No, I not voting for Trump and very seriously doubt I will vote at all.

OpenID xsyq July 26, 2015 11:48 AM  

@103
Getting one thing right qualifies you as right-wing now? Might as well start claiming breathing, eating, and sleeping as right-wing concepts then, it'd make as much sense.

Blogger David-093 July 26, 2015 11:54 AM  

@36

"The best rhetorical way for you to counter the "cuck" mean would be to ask them to show them on the doll where the (Jew/Black/Hispanic/Asian) touched them. Or ask them the name of the girl they had a crush on who dated a black guy in high school."

"Where on the doll did the Black touch you?"

-touches stereo-

Blogger Sad Puppy July 26, 2015 12:00 PM  

@114

Sometimes I want Trump to go all the way, then I recall he's a Yankee.

Blogger Daniel July 26, 2015 12:02 PM  

Funny. On a separate issue, I have traced the decline of science fiction to 1991. Where the SJWs popped up in letters to the editor in the 1930s, and as New Wave authors in the 1960s, in 1991, some of the leading publishers and editors were actively excluding the base market as a matter of principle.

Blogger GK Chesterton July 26, 2015 12:03 PM  

So I will, dangerously, partially join with Edward in as much as I think the slurs aren't worthwhile. It is true that race is an extended family and some allegiance to it is due. This forms the natural order of loyalty that is God, Family, Tribe, Nation, Humanity; in that order.

However, what turns me off is the slurs. As a Christian they are due the respect of God's Image. And they are also my extended-extended family. I'm all for being proud of my heritage, but not at the _expense_ of others. If someone wants to claim "slavery" I'm more than happy to point out that white people have, post Christ, been some of the most determined opponents of slavery world wide for example. I do not want my country invaded, but I am willing to cheer accomplishments of other groups.

So I like for example Vox's use of dog breeds, but I strongly object to folks like Fogey and Thorndaddy who want blood. I have no interest in blood.

Anonymous PA July 26, 2015 12:03 PM  

-- "The best rhetorical way for you to counter the "cuck" mean would be to ask them to show them on the doll where the (Jew/Black/Hispanic/Asian) touched them."

That would be the time to drag rhetoric to caveman level: "same place I touched your mom."

Anonymous Elijah Rhodes July 26, 2015 12:05 PM  

It is my conviction that a cuckservative (or whatever nomenclature you care to use to refer to a "moderate") is simply a K-Selected creature that is transitioning toward r selection. The divide between conservative and liberal is a continuum, not a hard barrier. So the squishy conservatives (and conversely, the reforming liberals) are just people who inhabit that grey zone between selection strategies. Yes, they are useless creatures, but depending on the direction of the migration there is some hope. I suspect that once we see the race war in full bloom, many a moderate will reform. In the mean time, our job is to encourage that transition.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales July 26, 2015 12:05 PM  

@Edward Isaacs

Quite lying. The only way you could like poorly animated Animoo bullshit like Hellsing is with MUCH stronger booze than that, unless your fucking Nip or Jap lover.

Anonymous Gary July 26, 2015 12:06 PM  

"Sometimes I want Trump to go all the way, then I recall he's a Yankee."

Has Rubio offered to put up a fence? How about any others?

Give Trump his due, a classic old school Yankee who at least loves this nation which is more than can be said about the current white house occupant.

Baby steps.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales July 26, 2015 12:08 PM  

@Laguna Beach Fogey

Yes, because wanting extreme governmental control on businesses and the rights of the individual is such a right wing thing in the context of American Conservatism. :P

The Master White Race, ladies and gents. Even more pathetic than the PC master race.

Blogger YIH July 26, 2015 12:11 PM  

Gary:
I'll settle for Trump building the damn fence.
I've yet to hear that he was even proposing such a thing. IMHO, if he did I suspect it would be as sincere as this call to do so.
TroperA:
and how much is a desire to secure a non-citizen workforce that drives down wages for Conservative-owned Corporations.
Can we get over this whole ''Conservative-owned Corporation'' nonsense? Granted, due to some ugly recent publicity corps are backing away from Planned Parenthood, but when this firestorm blows over (as it inevitably will) all the corps on that list will quietly make their way back to supporting Planned Parenthood. The management are full-on SJW/SWPL types, maybe not as blatant as we've seen with the NFL.
That fallacy came from Ayn Rand; ''capitalism is moral'', no, it is not!
Capitalism is not inherently 'moral', nor is it inherently immoral, it's amoral.
Selling aborted body parts is capitalism (which I suspect Ayn Rand would be absolutely in favor of, just as she was of abortion itself) but is there anything moral about it?
It's not about 'right and wrong' it's about 'buy and sell', period.

Anonymous Gary July 26, 2015 12:13 PM  

"I'm more than happy to point out that white people have, post Christ, been some of the most determined opponents of slavery world wide for example."

I cheerfully point out that slavery is ongoing TO THIS DAY in Africa and also point out with a smile just who was it that sold American blacks into slavery? The Brits and Americans didn't just pull up the the shore in Africa and start scooping them up.

Anonymous Dave July 26, 2015 12:14 PM  

"Two Cucks, One Cup" by Rod Dreher
The American Cuckservative

Bwahahahahahaha...


Dammit VD, thought you were going to announce release of RTRH2

Anonymous Gary July 26, 2015 12:16 PM  

@YIH

WRONG. Try again. Thanks for playing.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2014/04/12/trump-i-would-build-a-border-fence-like-you-have%20never-seen-before/

"As far as immigration is concerned, Trump boasted that he is a builder and that he likes to build things. He said that, if he was in charge of America, “I would build a border fence like you have never seen before.”

Blogger JaimeInTexas July 26, 2015 12:22 PM  

@117 Which Southern POTUS behaved like a Southern in the last, oh, 60 years? BTW, you are talking to someone who joined the League of the South for a couple of years.

Blogger JaimeInTexas July 26, 2015 12:27 PM  

@124 No, just looking at the other cell from your own.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales July 26, 2015 12:31 PM  

@130

You mean like the cells the Nazi's put their political opponents in with their incredible amount of Socialist control over business and the rights of the individual?

Again, White Master Race, ladies and gentleman. Still even more pathetic than the PC Master race. Though not quite as pathetic as Nip loving fucks.

Blogger Thucydides July 26, 2015 12:32 PM  

@101, the "Nazi=right wing" is Soviet propaganda from the 1930's. They were only "right wing" when compared to Russian Commnists.

A good book to read on the topic is Smauel Huntington's "Who Are We?", which examines the question in terms of "settlement" vs "immigration". Settlers arrive with their own world view and in sufficient numbers to build and expand on that cultural world view, whereas immigrants arrive in small enough numbers that they are essentially assimilated by the dominant culture.

Huntington also offers an interesting historical perspective: during the last great wave of immigrants from post Civil War to the 1920's, American governments, business and institutions worked long and hard to turn these new people into Americans. Man patriotic songs, books, sayings, festivals and so on were either developed during that time period, or materially ale red during that time to serve the purpose. While we look at public schools with repugnance today because they have been overrun with SJW's intent on indoctrinating our children, we forget that the public school movement was explicitly designed for indoctrination, only then it was to indoctrinate millions of children into how to speak english, develop a sense of time and routine, learn American culture from songs, games, stories etc., basically to program them in all ways possible to become Americans. Churches, public institutions and community groups all existed to do the same.

One of the things Americans are in danger of losing is the rich web of private associations that Alexis de Tocqueville commented on in his book "On Democracy", which also fostered a unique American civic culture.

So breaking the SJW?Progressives isn't just a good thing to do, it is a moral imperative. The cultural values that powered America's rise are being eclipsed by the alien culture that the SJW/Progressives are trying to impose, but given the intrinsic weaknesses of the SJW/Progressive worldview and contradictory nature of their version(s) of culture, I suspect that there is still time and space left to change course.

Blogger JaimeInTexas July 26, 2015 12:36 PM  

@131 Yes, and any other African country guarded by the defunct Idi Amin.

Anonymous Abie Gefiltefish July 26, 2015 12:39 PM  

@60 :I suppose, ultimately, we are reaping what we have sown. We can't blame anyone but ourselves. The Frankfurters would have no effect on a moral people. But when nations embrace evil, as we in White Christendom have, can judgement not follow? Even if others have pushed it, the American people accepted the horrific. From abortion to pornography to military adventurism, to the infantile "we're all immigrants", from atheism to socialism to feminism, we've fallen for them all. Did we think the bill wouldn't come due? Now, 50 million unborn souls cry out our guilt. Sodom and Gomorrah foretell our judgement. If we are displaced in our own lands, have we not earned it? If we are lucky, God will leave a remnant to rebuild.

Are you an Orthodox Jew? Wandering alone and oppressed among alien people as God's righteous judgment upon you and your progeny until the Messiah comes?

Maybe you should just board the railcars to Treblinka right now, ululating about your evil corrupt soul and the righteous death of your family and tribe as God's judgment upon you.

It is sad, pathetic, groveling, whining, yehudi nonsense like this that make sabras vomit in their mouths. Where is the Arthur Ruppin for goyim?

Blogger JaimeInTexas July 26, 2015 12:42 PM  

Let me restate. Yes. any other African country/cell guarded by the likes of the defunct Idi Amin.

Anonymous Proud redneck July 26, 2015 12:44 PM  

Vox:

Check out Instapundit's Twitter TL... that is where I first saw this.

Also, didya see this?

www.newrepublic.com/article/122372/conservatives-are-holding-conversation-about-race

I hate to side with liberals, but TNR calla this right.

Are you racist Trump-humpers happy you elected President Hillary?

Blogger JaimeInTexas July 26, 2015 12:47 PM  

Only if Hillary is elected from jail.

Anonymous Homesteader July 26, 2015 12:50 PM  

Good one. No ululating. I get it. God's judgement is for God's people only.

Trust me, the commentary is not of hopelessness.

Merely cause and effect.

I find it hilarious that my brethren complain about the effects while failing to see the causes.

We can only blame ourselves for the state of Christendom.

The good thing in that, is it then follows we can save it ourselves, too. But we must change, first.

You may return to your regularly scheduled Chosenness.

Anonymous Big Bill July 26, 2015 12:50 PM  

@132: I prefer the term 'colonists' over 'settlers' or 'immigrants'.

Entire communities being transplanted into our country.

They want to live the way they always have, only with cash benefits, medical care, food, schools, fire departments, police protection, etc. provided by American natives.

Blogger VD July 26, 2015 12:52 PM  

I hate to side with liberals, but TNR calla this right.

That's the same writer who called me, a Native American, a "white supremacist". He's an idiot.

Are you racist Trump-humpers happy you elected President Hillary?

Better her than another Bush. Do you still not understand we don't give a damn about the Republican Party? I have never voted for a Republican for president.

Blogger YIH July 26, 2015 12:55 PM  

Gary @128
As far as immigration is concerned, Trump boasted that he is a builder and that he likes to build things. He said that, if he was in charge of America, “I would build a border fence like you have never seen before.”
I stand corrected, he did indeed say it, and regardless of what happens between now and Nov '16 let's see if he holds to that pledge, he has the financial wherewithal to at least begin doing so over the next few years.
Will he do it, or was it just a campaign throwaway line, just like this one.

Anonymous Gary July 26, 2015 12:56 PM  

"Are you racist Trump-humpers happy you elected President Hillary?"

Seriously? Even the dems are getting ready to toss her overboard her numbers are so bad. Trump is sucking up voters from both side of the aisle.

Not that Trump is Reagan, but I'll be damned if he isn't hitting a number of Reagan themes that are resonating with the voters.

Now if Cruz would just pick up the hint..

Anonymous PA July 26, 2015 12:58 PM  

-- "They want to live the way they always have, only with cash benefits, medical care, food, schools, fire departments, police protection, etc. provided by American natives"

And the joke is on them too, because in America their children will either assimilate to nigger norms (if the immigrant community is low-functioning or to sterile SWPL norms if they are high functioning.

Anonymous Gary July 26, 2015 1:00 PM  

"Will he do it, or was it just a campaign throwaway line, just like this one."

McCain has been a loser and liar for years, look how he left Palin drifting in the wind. He is a man with no honor. Trump has been bringing up the fence in almost every appearance, its almost a cornerstone of his campaign at this point. He has shifted to tax reform a bit which I find interesting.

Anonymous paradox July 26, 2015 1:00 PM  

@125
YIH It's not about 'right and wrong' it's about 'buy and sell', period.

Which is why capitalism supports same-sex marriage. It will create all kinds of new markets.

Blogger Chris Mallory July 26, 2015 1:01 PM  

@136 "Are you racist Trump-humpers happy you elected President Hillary?"


"What difference – at this point, what difference does it make?"

The sooner the US breaks up into 50 different nations the better. Trump or Clinton or Bush or Netanyahu they are all corrupt.

Anonymous Grocker July 26, 2015 1:01 PM  

It's not thT any anti-Mexican bias disqualifies VD. It's his profoundly immature on the immigration issue, his obvious inability to understand the issue and his choice of demogoguery over analysis that disqualifies him from being taken serious. Ever notice that when anyone points out his mistaken facts or his misreading of history on immigration he babbles something about goalposts or SJW. "Nothing to see here, move along.

That aside, here's the most obvious reason VD is a Baffin on this iss and even anti American: he never ponders how to create a great American nation that is partly consisting of descendants of Latino immigrants. My take is that he's completely ignorant on this issue, plainly racist, and just plain lazy.

Blogger Chris Mallory July 26, 2015 1:02 PM  

@142 Cruz is nothing but a NeoCon shill. He mouths a few Tea Party platitudes, but in the end he is just as big government and big war as the rest of them.

Anonymous Satan's Hamster July 26, 2015 1:02 PM  

@18: "There are probably similar efforts being fostered in the EU."

Don't know about the rest of the EU, but, as I understand it, Britain has had Scum Quotas in new developments for years. I've seen a number of stories of people paying $500,000 for an apartment and then discovering they're now living next door to a family of welfare scum who haven't worked for three generations and think nothing of screaming at each other at 3am because they don't need to get up tomorrow.

The SJWs absolutely hate the idea that anyone could possibly get away from them.

@100: "We GenXers have the unique perspective in that we grew up in a normal country and upon entering adulthood -- circa 1990 -- we saw our future taken away from us."

When I was growing up, men were walking on the Moon, anyone with the cash could fly across the Atlantic at twice the speed of sound, and everyone knew that, by the end of the century, we'd be living on Mars and flying from London to Australia in an hour.

Instead, we got a bloated welfare state, Muslims beheading soldiers on the streets of London, and much of the West dragged down toward third-world status.

Thanks, SJWs!

Blogger Chris Mallory July 26, 2015 1:03 PM  

@147 The people who created a great American nation were British Protestants. Every wave of immigrants since has degraded the nation.

Anonymous pdimov July 26, 2015 1:04 PM  

"Are you racist Trump-humpers happy you elected President Hillary?"

As a general heuristic, if someone says "don't support Republican candidate X because he'll lose to Democratic candidate Y",

(a) that someone is a Democrat,
(b) he's afraid that X may beat Y and prefers someone else (a cuckservative) to be the Republican candidate.

Anonymous Book_Girl July 26, 2015 1:23 PM  

"Are you racist Trump-humpers happy you elected President Hillary?"

Forgive my less than lady-like language, but I am so fucking tired of Republican politicians backstabbing those who vote for them. They are cowardly pussies who piss themselves whenever Obama barks at them. They are absolutely WORTHLESS.

I say this as someone who voted for Dole and for Bush twice. I quit voting in 2006. Fuck the Republicans.

Blogger bw July 26, 2015 1:34 PM  

What @Book_Girl said. And more.

This term is quite the shiv as Heartiste calls it. The moderates and Repub mouth pieces hate this term. It scares the shit out of them, knowing that men are being forced to make a real decision: are you cuckolded and thus not a real man in your personal life, and thus as part of your Identity, it spills over into everything else for you?
Scares the shit out of them. Cuts right to the issue. "Oh no, they see us!"
Watch their attempt to make it go away - and note well who is doing so.

You even get unprincipled ignorants and liars like these: "Are you racist Trump-humpers happy you elected President Hillary?"
Because only for a political animal loser - and that's what he's been in the West since WWII - like this can a vote for someone in particular actually be a special kind of vote for someone else.

Anonymous Gary July 26, 2015 1:38 PM  

I'm loving the concern trolls in this thread.

There are certain keywords that give them away and they just can't help themselves.

We. Don't. Care.

Blogger bw July 26, 2015 1:38 PM  

Not that Trump is Reagan

Nigga, please.
Ronny watered the roots of the demographic nightmare that is now upon us with his No Fault Divorce intro and early amnesty.
There is no bigger myth in Cuckservative land than that of Ronny (and Thatcher). He was cuckolded by his own VP and some .22LR for f8cks sake.

Anonymous Grocker July 26, 2015 1:48 PM  

Chris,
How did Italian immigrants denigrate the nation? Imagine, you'll have to offer some reasoning instead of offering spittle as words.

Anonymous Satan's Hamster July 26, 2015 1:52 PM  

@153: "This term is quite the shiv as Heartiste calls it. The moderates and Repub mouth pieces hate this term."

Yes, it's an excellent term. In one word it points out that the Gang Of Pussies are fake conservatives, and they have no balls. Far more effective than RINOS, which actually makes them sound kind of cool in a wet lefty way.

If you still think politics can save America, it has no chance until the Republican party is taken back from the cuckservatives who currently run it.

Anonymous Satan's Hamster July 26, 2015 1:54 PM  

@156: "How did Italian immigrants denigrate the nation?"

Italians brought organized crime. Irish brought organized political corruption. Even white immigrants, arriving at a time when American culture tried to force them to assimilate, brought the worst elements of their own cultures with them... so what chance does the country have with immigrants from massively different cultures who are told they should be free to live as they did at home, not as Americans?

Blogger bob k. mando July 26, 2015 2:00 PM  

67. Godfrey July 26, 2015 9:43 AM
The term is National Socialists, not "Nazis".



if you're going to get all fancy about it, the term is National Socialist Worker's Party.



69. Chester Lyman July 26, 2015 9:45 AM
The only person who can plausibly declare Nazis leftist



that's a lie. and it's a lie i've been pointing out irl for more than 10 years before Goldberg made the same argument in a national best seller.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Fascism



78. Laguna Beach Fogey July 26, 2015 10:07 AM
The Cuckservative position on the Nazis is that somehow they were "liberal".
I laugh.



only to the extent that the Left has succeeded in substituting the word 'liberal' for the term 'Left'.

so, to the extent that you have allowed them to do this, you are only laughing at yourself.

tell me, how liberal was Mao?



80. The Obvious July 26, 2015 10:11 AM
Now that you said it, that sounds alot like rabbit behaviour.



as i've pointed out previously, this emotive behavior is not limited to the Left.

it's just that the politics tends to be a useful sorting proxy.


i wonder ...
how many of you have noticed that, in spite of writing many good "race realism" articles and much else worth reading AND not being a 'conservative' ... Fred Reed allies with the cuckservatives, at least on the issue of Mexicans.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar July 26, 2015 2:15 PM  

I would like to congratulate the ilk. Cuckservative has hit the target. You know you're over the target when you start taking flak.
These shills are pissing their pants now. Its not working anymore. They were using the race card too. Sorry, you've been declined. They really are cuckolds. Look at the jamaican pimp who married Boehner's daughter. He sells out his own fairly cheap doesn't he.
El Guapo Boosh apparently married the maid. Well I guess that's better than marrying your mother. Prescott is the future of the GOP. Irrelevant.
Join the Dark Side. The NSDAP needs men like you. Its the Aryan way. You just don't know the POWER of the DARK SIDE. BTW, Jedis aren't real.

Anonymous Anonymous July 26, 2015 2:17 PM  

Mildly off topic, or at least a tangent building off #132. I'm debating whether an idea is memetically useful, or cuck; whether it would be helpful in opening eyes, and separating the innocently asleep or deluded from those who are truly on the other side. I'd appreciate the views of the VP community.

The idea is part of a bigger idea, but the specific aspect is 'We need more diversity in our diversity' in an attempt to drive a wedge between the La Razas and the Chamber of Commerce.

Seal the border, allow a real legal unskilled guest worker program, with the requirement that no more than 5% come from any one country, with slots in the program allocated as part of foreign aid.

Tsunami in the Phillipines? Give them 10k guest worker spots.

Workers only, no family, company sponsor responsible for ensuring housing, safe transportation (ie licensing/auto insurance/alternative transpo), health coverage etc including the return trip. No eligibility for gov't programs., After giving companies a legal way to get workers for 'the jobs that Americans won't do' and a phase in period, Yuge (huge, pronounced with a Trumpian accent) penalties for employing illegal aliens. Drive illegals out of the workforce and limit gov't benefit eligibility to legal residents to prompt self deportation.

Throw in a populist angle...to prevent outcompeting locals, require the minimum wage paid in FICA taxes (the social security trust fund that doesn't exist) on top of what ever you end up paying the guest workers. Because it already has the minimum wage in taxes, only half minimum wage requirement applies to what they are paid.

I would prefer to have a Dalit/Untouchable or Tibetan refugee from India hang my drywall, or a Mongonlian shepherd or refugee from the Civil war in Congo mow my lawn as long as they go home rich when it is over as opposed to yet another peasant from Oaxaca who not only isn't going home, but bringing his home into mine.

Daedalus Mugged

Anonymous Proud redneck July 26, 2015 2:17 PM  

Vox:

You owe Nick a big apology:

https://twitter.com/yesnicksearcy/status/625342035008958465

I suggest you man up, apologise and drop this whole 'cuckservative' racism thing.

Blogger ray July 26, 2015 2:17 PM  

Whoever came up with 'cuckservative', cheers. Cuckold + conservative. Cuckolded politically, spiritually, legally and sexually. Says it all. You could put an 'F' at the beginning and be, well, Equally correct. :O)

I'm not sure the 'younger generations of whites' know better however, as it was youngsters (and women) who dropped the Obomba on US, twice.

As for the Melting Pot, this began in Babylon Uno, under Nimrod after the Flood, and in the concentrated cities and kingdoms that followed -- all of which were shitty slave-empires, rebellions against God, who had commanded dispersal across the Earth, and separation of the tribes into (forming) nations. Ancient Babylon was the cradle of both Diversity/Multi-culti and Equality between male and female. So, again, rejection of, and rebellion against, the created and natural order. Yet this took place long after the original, ur-rebellion, which drove (and drives) all other disobediences and resentments against God.

Neither of my parents were political, but always voted Democrat, when that party still somewhat defended the interests of working men, the poor, unions, family, church, and the middle class, esp. lower-middle-class strivers. They'd be horrified at the satanic globalist monsters that the Democrats AND Republicans of today have become.

Cuckservatives are cuckolds and manginas before they are immigration diversicrats. It's the collective political, social, and legal power of females (and their control of weak men) that drives, and legitimizes, all these attendant globalist agendas -- mass immigrations (to formerly Christian nations, largely), godlessness, feminism, racialism, abortion, annihilation of family, etc. You can't address or solve this via the immigration issue, because it ignores the root of the problem. And the root of the problem isn't as much post-Nimrodian diversification (destruction of national and tribal sovereignties) as it is the problem of Eve. And her proto-cuckservative husband. Right-wingers want to tackle EVERY issue EXCEPT the one that really matters. That's why the moniker fits.

Cheers.

Anonymous Elijah Rhodes July 26, 2015 2:18 PM  

I can see the appeal of Trump for voters that are fed up with the treasonous Republicans. But if you scratch below the surface, not only are his positions generally liberal, he doesn't have anything that can be described as a coherent world view. He is a patchwork of often contradictory positions.

For example, while he talks of building a wall to prevent illegal immigration, he also says that legal immigration should be made easier and faster. This tells me that he doesn't have a functional understanding of American culture, how it came to be, what makes it great, and why it must be preserved. Flooding the U.S. with immigrants, legal or otherwise, is still cultural genocide.

For that reason, I'm probably either sitting this election out or voting for Hillary in order to bring about the collapse faster. We're long past the point of return. America is disintegrating before our eyes. Trump won't be the solution, even if he does correctly identify the porous border as a major problem. Too many other datapoints are going in the wrong direction at breakneck speed. Sadly, I don't think America can be saved now. A new republic will have to emerge from the rubble, so I for one say, bring it on.

Anonymous BigGaySteve July 26, 2015 2:19 PM  

//raises rifle I FIGHT FOR THE SINGLE MOTHERS! Oooo-rah!

For Crack Babies, For affirmative action, for 70IQ crack hoes getting a section8 house with a bigger pool than mine.

Demographic slides don't affect me personally, and if my children or my children's children end up a little darker than I am, who cares?

That might matter if only IQ had not basis in DNA. If the average IQ falls below 90 you get mexico. At 85 you get the Dominican rebublic that is now kicking out everyone from Haiti that doesn't have a blood link prior to 1929. Under 85 you get the other side of the island of Hispania known as Haiti.

Blogger Joel #0164 July 26, 2015 2:28 PM  

@136 "I hate to side with liberals, but TNR calla this right."

No, you don't. You love it, in a perverse and self-righteous way. It makes you feel good about yourself to stand committed to everything Good and Right and Antiracist with people who hate you. This is why we call you a cuckservative. You'd rather break bread with people who want to destroy you than with those to your right who are willing to fight for the things that would preserve your interests.

You are fully cucked and you wear it as a badge of honor.

Blogger VD July 26, 2015 2:35 PM  

You owe Nick a big apology:

No, I don't owe Mr. #WrongFamily anything.

I suggest you man up, apologise and drop this whole 'cuckservative' racism thing.

That's nice. It's not going to happen, cucky.

Blogger Joel #0164 July 26, 2015 2:38 PM  

@164

This article about sums up my feelings on Trump: Why We Need a Troll as President

Yes, if you think Trump is any kind of genuine conservative hero who's going to smite all the enemies of America and restore her to her former glory, then you're dong it wrong. The appeal of Trump is that he's exposing the worthlessness of the Republican party and, by extension, the entire modern American electoral process. Trump may be a clown, but unlike the rest of them, at least he's an honest clown.

Anonymous Grinder July 26, 2015 2:39 PM  

@155 Thanks for pointing that out. Unfortunately the Reagan conservative myth is one that will not die easily. I recall the GOP nominees last election tripping over each other to claim the mantle of Reagan style conservatism even though the only such thing I recall of Reagan was his opposition to the gay lobby. That is one thing that none of the current crop of cuckservatives would boast of since they would not support standing up to the rainbow crowd in the first place.

Anonymous Gary July 26, 2015 2:40 PM  

"Ronny watered the roots of the demographic nightmare that is now upon us with his No Fault Divorce intro and early amnesty. "

HAHAHA.

Care to take three guess who knifed Ronnie on Amnesty? Only need 1 guess liberal.

Dem congress stabbed us in the back as usual.

Ronnie's mistake was trusting the assholes.

Anonymous Gary July 26, 2015 2:43 PM  

"Yes, if you think Trump is any kind of genuine conservative hero who's going to smite all the enemies of America and restore her to her former glory, then you're dong it wrong. "

Who stated Trump was a conservative hero? Nice strawman you have there.

I already stated he was at best a old school liberal Yankee who is at this point to the right of most of the GOPe party.

Anonymous iuohrthvi July 26, 2015 2:46 PM  

ignore this

Blogger Joel #0164 July 26, 2015 2:47 PM  

"I already stated he was at best a old school liberal Yankee who is at this point to the right of most of the GOPe party."

Then why are you taking offense? My comment was directed at Elijah Rhodes, not you.

Anonymous BGS July 26, 2015 2:52 PM  

The way to inform and recruit our fellow Whites isn't through long academic essays full of fancy jargon, but through art.

I see it now a shirt that says White Male Privilege, with a picture of 7yo coal breaker boys, and then "they slaved so that Puerto Ricans could collect social security disability for not speaking English". Well ok that might be too long.

@ 19 Edward Isaacs:"Cuckservative." It really is a racial more than a cultural slur.

Are you going to be like that blaze author and defend being a "legitimate" cuckold, while crying racism? Do any of your fellow cucks get off on seeing another white guy screw your woman? Just curious is your wife ok with other guys screwing you(a gay guy could peg you better than your wife)?

And culture is derived from genetics. Is consciousness derived from brain matter alone?

When I was a medic in the military I was tasked out with a training opposition force for 2 weeks. It was then that I noticed black people have crappy night vision. I have since seen a study that people with blue eyes can naturally see better at night. That is an example of biology preventing blacks from seeing the same objective reality. When IQ tests removed cultural questions and replaced with g weighted parts like math and 3d images black scores got worse because spatial orientation is their worst area. When Clarence Thomas removed the civil service tests it was because they required 12th grade reading and 10th grade math, while blacks with credentialized PHDs came in at 3rd grade math ability.

Edward Isaacs @26 : "I don't know why you bothered responding to my drunk ass." He has to roofie himself at a gay bar.

I plead with you Vox, don't get manipulated by these scum, I mean really you should just do what the leftists want, leftists acting the same way to GamerGate & PPGate means those are racists also.

Anonymous Grinder July 26, 2015 2:54 PM  

I think people are getting too worked up about left vs right labels. If you care so much about not being labeled left wing since it is so unfashionable these days then how likely are you to not fall into the same cuckservative pattern to avoid being called a racist, sexist or xenophobe?
Even "invisible hand" economic theorist Adam Smith believed in state intervention if it would best serve the needs of the people. Are sewers and public sanitation just leftist evils to be avoided? Many other examples exist that suggest the greatest yardstick of a policy should be if the white race is helped or harmed by its adoption. Left vs. right is a distraction and George Lincoln Rockwell railed against the weakling conservatives of his day in the 60s. I'll support any policy that furthers the 14 Words and I don't care if they are leftist or right wing.

Blogger ray July 26, 2015 2:57 PM  

"The appeal of Trump is that he's exposing the worthlessness of the Republican party and, by extension, the entire modern American electoral process. Trump may be a clown, but unlike the rest of them, at least he's an honest clown."


My take also. Tho I'd replace 'honest' with 'useful'.

Blogger Josh July 26, 2015 3:03 PM  

I'll support any policy that furthers the 14 Words and I don't care if they are leftist or right wing.

Mass murder is not that answer.

Blogger maniacprovost July 26, 2015 3:08 PM  

@Grocker,
The Mexican immigrants currently in the US could, over a long period of time, with appropriate legal structures in place (not a welfare state), be assimilated into a functional USA. It might be too late. There might be too many already, and they might be breeding too fast. But I think, theoretically, it can be done. Blacks never fully integrated with Whites, but we were able to coexist successfully and still do, to an extent. It's not ideal, but it's sustainable.

If we continue to allow immigration on this scale, it will soon be utterly impossible to salvage the country in a recognizable form. That's why priority one is immigration, and A Lasting Peace is a distant priority two.

Anonymous Gary July 26, 2015 3:15 PM  

"Then why are you taking offense?"

I don't hear anyone claiming Trump is conservative. Arrogant, a clown, out for Trump yes but not conservative. Only in comparing him to the eunuchs populating the GOP does he even look conservative.

He can do no worse than the malicious idiot in the white house and on a few important issues is far to the right of those running on the GOP ticket.

Trump loves this country and he fights which is more than I can say for most of the GOP field. As long as he keeps giving the GOP and 'rats black eyes I'm on board with the guy but have no illusions about him being a real deal conservative.

There isn't one and people holding out for one are foolish. I'll climb in the foxhole with the man who fights my enemies.

The media, 'rats and most of the GOP are the enemy.

Blogger JaimeInTexas July 26, 2015 3:18 PM  

@159 What I recall of Fred Reed's writtings he hust points to the hypocrisy and crazyness of Federal laws. Fred has demonstrated his grasp of the importance of culture in a people. I am sure that you have read Fred's reminiscences of his carefree life in Virginia.

Blogger ChicagoRefugee July 26, 2015 3:39 PM  

Showing up to a race war without a racial affiliation is likely to be just as successfull as showing up to a religious war without a religion. (H/T- Kratman)

Anonymous Sheila July 26, 2015 3:40 PM  

@157 Grocker, my husband is of half Italian heritage, and I rather arbitrarily extended my genealogical research to encompass the entire village one of his sets of great-grandparents came from.

Let's leave "organized crime" off the table here. Let's start with (paraphrase) a 1900 newspaper article "A quiet night in the Italian quarter . . . only 4 knifings." Let's look into constant fights over honor or debts spilling into violence with fists and knives and guns. Let's discuss countless drunk driving arrests. Let's discuss petty civil matters like hunting licenses to larger civil matters like ethnic politicking. Let's discuss first cousin marriage and 14 year old marriage. And this was over 100 years ago in a western Massachusetts' city with its fair share of French Canadian and Irish immigrants, as well.

Assimilation, in those cases where it is possible, generally requires a certain IQ, a certain genetic/cultural heritage, an aggressively confident native majority population, and TIME. None of those criteria currently exist.

Try again.

Anonymous Ain July 26, 2015 3:43 PM  

Joel @91: "If your reaction to the #cuckservative meme is to yell "racist!, white supremacist!, Nazi!," you might be a cuckservative."

And a rabbit.

Anonymous BigGaySteve July 26, 2015 4:17 PM  

163---@yesnicksearcy @voxday @Senkwa @Cernovich @problemagic You would only be transracial "If you where the head of the Spokane NAACP my love"

"Where on the doll did the Black touch you?" -touches stereo- Touches Wallet.

I'll settle for Trump building the damn fence. I've yet to hear that he was even proposing such a thing

He not only proposed it but said he will make mexico pay for it. Hell he will probably make a resort out of the border fence, I see a machine that will take quarters to remote control a fire hose on top of the border wall that people can pay to control for a few min.

I cheerfully point out that slavery is ongoing TO THIS DAY in Africa and also point out

I go one better and point out that there are fake corrupt charities that say they will free black slaves in Africa for $5 each, and ask why are they not freeing black slaves and that I had donated enough to free multiple slaves just to say I did it.

stories of people paying $500,000 for an apartment and then discovering they're now living next door to a family of welfare scum

Section 8 will give nice houses with big pools to non Asian minorities, only rarely does it work out positively like with Rodney King.

Blogger haus frau July 26, 2015 4:23 PM  

At this point, it isn't all that unreasonable to vote for Hillary just to speed up the process and trigger backlash. Leftists have been highly successful with the gradual approach. Over the last 10 years they think they have the brass ring nearly in hand and are losing patience with the boiling frog approach. Letting them have exactly what they want in a time frame that bars traditional America from adjusting back into apathy might be the worst thing for them. The worse the better right?

Blogger byronfrombyron July 26, 2015 4:29 PM  

Ok, I know I'm LATE to this party, but: Herman Cain and Ben Carson?

Sheesh. If I'm going to laud a black conservative, it's going to be Alan Keyes. As to the others, they're intellectual lightweights. I'm sure Carson is a competent Physician, and Cain is a competent businessman, but they don't have it, politically.

Blogger Chris Mallory July 26, 2015 4:32 PM  

@157 "How did Italian immigrants denigrate the nation? Imagine, you'll have to offer some reasoning instead of offering spittle as words."

1. They had no history of the Rights of Englishmen in their culture or their genes.
2. The organized crime that has already been mentioned.
3. Their allegiance to the Whore of Babylon and it's representative the Pope.
4. Most importantly, they do not fit into this: "We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America." The nation was founded for the posterity of those British Protestants who founded this nation, not a bunch of swarthy, garlic eating wogs.

Anonymous FP July 26, 2015 4:44 PM  

" Fred Reed allies with the cuckservatives, at least on the issue of Mexicans."

That has been my main gripe with Reed for several years now since I first came across his stuff. Dances with Mexicans Fred.

Blogger Groot July 26, 2015 4:54 PM  

I'm not sure "cuckservative" has settled into a hard-and-fast definition, yet, but it pisses people off so much, it's got to be useful for something.

Maybe it'll serve to insulate from a point-and-shriek "racist" tantrum that leaves some so befuddled.

What's not helpful is Laguna Beach Fogey's standing on his porch and screaming incoherent spittle at bemused passersby. Thanks, 160. bob k. mando, you saved me some time.

The meaning of these terms shifts over decades, much less centuries, and purposely muddying the waters doesn't help the discussion. Progressive used to mean militaristic eugenecist.

For the eugenics aspect: http://pjmedia.com/blog/we-shouldnt-be-surprised-at-planned-parenthoods-callous-inhumanity/

For the militaristic, just think of a 20th century socialist, and I'll show you a guy in military uniform: Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Castro, the Kims of N.K., Chavez, and on.

Blogger JaimeInTexas July 26, 2015 5:05 PM  

Chavez in the same league as Stalin, et al?

Blogger David-093 July 26, 2015 5:15 PM  

Apparently cuckservatives don't know the first rule of arguing: never let your opponent know what pisses you off. That they're responding like SJWs is quite telling.

"QUIT CALLING US THAT!"

They're the nerds from high school that never stood up for themselves and just wanted everyone to like them.

Blogger Groot July 26, 2015 5:19 PM  

@190. JaimeInTexas
The League of Socialist Idiots, sure, but not Superman, maybe the Tic's sidekick, Arthur the Moth.

Anonymous FP July 26, 2015 5:21 PM  

The NickSearcy and GuildCarver (an admitted transmechanical helicopter being) twitter fight with Vox is amusing. Cuckservative has clearly hit a nerve.

Anonymous Steve July 26, 2015 5:27 PM  

Chris Mallory - show us on the doll where Luigi touched you.

Anonymous Eric Ashley July 26, 2015 6:05 PM  

In the coming race war, squishy conservatives will be forced to take sides, and become my servants and do everything I say....

Rolls eyes.

Dude. Anything remotely like a real race war between white and black would be over in two weeks with the blacks begging for mercy.

Now, if say the Libs, some of the Military, the Alphabet Soup Guys, and the Browns got together with the Blacks, well, then....but thats not much of a race war as the Establishment vs. the People war.

Also, at the time of the Am. Civil War we had Yankee scum, Lowlander aristos, and Highlanders. As I've said before, its a shame the boys from Appalachia did not take over the Nation then.

Blogger Chris Mallory July 26, 2015 6:23 PM  

@194 Since I don't make it a habit of mingling with nonwhites, Luigi has never had the chance.

Blogger Chris Mallory July 26, 2015 6:23 PM  

@194 Since I don't make it a habit of mingling with nonwhites, Luigi has never had the chance.

Blogger SciVo July 26, 2015 6:34 PM  

Josh @24: Anyone know what percentage of Ye Olde Internet White Nationalists are: 1 of English descent and 2 not Yankees?

I don't have the answers to your explicit questions, but I can recommend this article on Anglo-Americanism, which argues for a common identity of English-speaking whites in America.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar July 26, 2015 6:35 PM  

I have to wonder why they're pushing so hard on Whites. Its as though they want a War. Considering how poorly they're doing in Afghanistan maybe they're all just crazy?
The GOP is finished. They never did anything anyway. Reagan seemed sincere but his VP Boosh and the others were selling us down the river anyway.
A Nation is Blood and Soil. Propositions are what you give to women not countries. What organization or society has ever been formed where people got together without similar interests? Other races are unabashedly racist and not a peep from the usual suspects. Only Whites are supposed to surrender their lands and futures for aliens. No. HELL NO.

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