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Friday, July 03, 2015

There Will Be FOUR




Coming very soon. If you are a newsletter subscriber, keep your eyes on your email this weekend for some offers you won't want to miss. And we're not only talking about the two new volumes of THERE WILL BE WAR either....

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Anonymous Whitey McWhite July 03, 2015 7:43 AM  

Good.

Blogger Nate July 03, 2015 8:00 AM  

Dude these covers are badass.

Blogger Frank Manning VFM#20 July 03, 2015 8:33 AM  

How do you sign up for the newsletter?

Anonymous NorthernHamlet July 03, 2015 8:40 AM  

Dude these covers are badass

I simply have to echo this. The covers for 3 and 4 are damn awesome. As marketing, those two look right on the mark.

Anonymous Steve July 03, 2015 8:41 AM  

Nate - Especially IV - the hero shot of the strike plane turning away from the burning city.

Some nice details there: the gouts of flame reflected in the water. The stars peeking through the illuminated clouds of smoke and dust.

I love the honeycomb arrangement of the thrusters in Vol III too.

Anonymous Giuseppe July 03, 2015 8:44 AM  

+1 on the cover

Blogger VD July 03, 2015 8:56 AM  

Lars, the artist, has done a stellar job on these. He's struck a nice balance between paying homage to the original covers while updating them and making them more striking. Here are the original Vol. III and Vol. IV covers if you want to compare them.

I also like the title style that JartStar and Chris Kallini created for the series.

Blogger Mr. Buford July 03, 2015 8:59 AM  

Very nice art for volumes III and IV. Did Chris Foss create it? His starship art is spectacular and it was the reason why I purchased all of Stewart Cowley's, 'Terran Trade Authority' books.

Blogger VD July 03, 2015 9:09 AM  

No, not Foss. Lars Anderson.

Blogger Nate July 03, 2015 9:33 AM  

Lars killed it. I really didnt care for the cover of 1... the spacesuit thing never did anything for me... likely because I associate it with lying baby boomers... but that's on me. The cover is well executed and striking. Just not my thing. The others.. man... awesome.

Anonymous kjj July 03, 2015 9:34 AM  

Actual books this time?

Blogger VD July 03, 2015 10:07 AM  

Actual books this time?

We are an ebook publisher. That is our focus. We NEVER publish print editions at the start. The V1+V2 omnibus will be published by the end of the month. The V3+V4 omnibus will be published sometime before the end of the year.

Anonymous Duke of URL July 03, 2015 10:08 AM  

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Anonymous MendoScot July 03, 2015 10:13 AM  

Well, this might interest Dr. Pournelle:

In the end, the F-35 — the only new fighter jet that America and most of its allies are developing — is demonstrably inferior in a dogfight with the F-16, which the U.S. Air Force first acquired in the late 1970s.

Blogger Jack Ward July 03, 2015 10:17 AM  

You tease.....

Anonymous Rusty Fife July 03, 2015 10:31 AM  

@MendoScott

I like hating on the F35 as much as anyone; but I don't think it is warranted in this case.

http://xbradtc.com/2015/07/02/about-that-f-35-vs-f-16-dogfight/

They are still parametizing the control law on a bomb truck that was put up against the best air superiority fighter ever made.

Blogger Nate July 03, 2015 10:48 AM  

"In the end, the F-35 — the only new fighter jet that America and most of its allies are developing — is demonstrably inferior in a dogfight with the F-16, which the U.S. Air Force first acquired in the late 1970s."

If it has half a tank of fuel or less it will also smoke an F22 in a dogfight.

As for the f35... its pure shit. nothing else.

Anonymous Dave July 03, 2015 11:10 AM  

Any new content is these?

Blogger VD July 03, 2015 11:11 AM  

Any new content is these?

No, these are the same as the original paperbacks.

Anonymous Dave July 03, 2015 11:19 AM  

Cool, just saw new release email for another "bad to reprehensible" work.

Blogger macengr July 03, 2015 11:27 AM  

So glad I got to do the proofreading on these. Everyone, these are definitely worth buying!

Anonymous Huckleberry July 03, 2015 11:47 AM  

 is demonstrably inferior in a dogfight with the F-16

Sure.
But do keep in mind the F-16 is one of the most agile air frames ever to take to the sky.
Most fighter planes developed at the time and since are inferior to the F-16 in a dogfight.

Blogger macengr July 03, 2015 11:52 AM  

Regarding the F35, the fact that it can't dogfight is bad enough, then add the cost overruns, the maintenance issues, the fact that the software won't be available until 2017, and the fact that they are trying to use it as an excuse to retire the A10, and yes, it's a disaster.

Anonymous MendoScot July 03, 2015 11:52 AM  

http://xbradtc.com/2015/07/02/about-that-f-35-vs-f-16-dogfight/

Heh. "Meatware". Love it.

Anonymous Dave July 03, 2015 11:55 AM  

Out of curiosity what's the most recent dogfight of any importance between two equally trained/supported pilots?

Blogger VFM bot #188 July 03, 2015 12:05 PM  

Also out of curiosity, how can anyone think manned fighter jets have any future? For one thing, meat can't stand the g-forces. Nor can it think or act as fast as non-meat fighters. Soooo....

Anonymous Dave July 03, 2015 12:33 PM  

Yeah but...you're a bot. Soooo...

Anonymous Koppernicus July 03, 2015 12:39 PM  

Somewhither! Somewhither! Somewither!

Rehtihwemos! Rehtihwemos, Rehtiwemos!

Hey, I'll try anything at this point.

Blogger Ragin' Dave July 03, 2015 12:43 PM  

I have Volume 1 of There Will Be War. I cannot recommend it enough to my friends. I'll be picking up Volumes 2, 3, and 4.

Blogger jaericho (#107) July 03, 2015 12:57 PM  

Awesome. And I agree with everyone here: the covers are great.

Blogger maniacprovost July 03, 2015 1:21 PM  

Also out of curiosity, how can anyone think manned fighter jets have any future? For one thing, meat can't stand the g-forces. Nor can it think or act as fast as non-meat fighters. Soooo....

Depends how the electronic warfare plays out. I think that drones will not be practical for 1st tier air forces to use against each other, ever, due to the constant potential for jamming, hacking, and tricks that humans wouldn't fall for. When they reach a certain degree of autonomy, then they'll replace humans.

Blogger Quadko July 03, 2015 1:32 PM  

Depends how the electronic warfare plays out.
Return of the bi-plane!

Blogger VFM bot #188 July 03, 2015 1:39 PM  

Electronic warfare will play out as artificial intelligence. Prior to strong AI, fighters will be "manned" remotely in full-immersion artificial reality. When strong AI arrives---in less than 100 years, remember you heard it here first---there won't be a need for even that. They'll just stay in touch with us to take orders and let us know what's happening.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper July 03, 2015 3:20 PM  

I slightly disagree with our resident bot here,

EW will play out as AI of a sort but you don't need actual AI to do it. Software drive autonomy solutions developed from genetic algorithms will suffice. It really only has to have a relatively small number of protocols and doesn't need to be that creative . We don't need Bolos to do missions.

Also I strongly doubt anyone will be flying advanced aircraft of any kind, in a hundred years of any kind, Unless things reboot, many areas will be lucky to have running water or electricity in that time frame. IMNSHO anyway it will probably resemble a schitzo-tech 1920's with a few higher tech zones.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper July 03, 2015 3:28 PM  

Also to Dave's point, the US hasn't had significant air-to air combat in decades, since the Vietnam War though I'm told a US F15 did engage in air to air combat in the Yugoslav war.

However if we are heavily dependent on the F35 for future ops and its vulnerable to something potential opposition aircraft (in this case Russian maybe China too ) are especially good at it a big risk factor particularly with the cost and technical issues with the F35

. We probably aren't going to war with Russia but other nations we might tangle with could be flying with them and we cannot afford heavy losses.Also given the nature of modern war, i.e in a large scale war against a developed power CONUS is highly vulnerable so more caution, not less is called for.

Blogger macengr July 03, 2015 3:28 PM  

I suspect the defense against drones will be EMP pulses.

Blogger maniacprovost July 03, 2015 4:32 PM  

But EMP pulses could disable most manned aircraft as well, and if you can get a powerful enough EMP close enough to do the job... you may as well use high explosive.

Microwave lasers, on the other hand, might be able to disable an aircraft without the excessive power requirements of a destructive laser.

Blogger William Hughes July 03, 2015 4:36 PM  

Thanks for bringing these back.

Anonymous Steve July 03, 2015 4:51 PM  

A.B Prosper - you don't need actual AI to do it. Software drive autonomy solutions developed from genetic algorithms will suffice. It really only has to have a relatively small number of protocols and doesn't need to be that creative .

I think you're right. We don't need to build the thinking bomb from "Dark Star". We need drones that are smart enough to fly themselves to a target or patrol a predefined area, identify friend or foe, take evasive and/or aggressive action if they discover a threat, and return to base when certain parameters have been met. If they are able to identify and attack ground targets of opportunity, and work in concert with other drones, that's a nice-to-have.

The software challenge is probably a little bit less than that facing self-driving cars. Fewer jaywalkers to contend with.

It gets really interesting/terrifying when you consider what might be possible with atomic powered drones. They could carry enormous amounts of armament and loiter over contested territory for weeks or maybe even months at a time - only needing to land for routine preventative maintenance. Our current drones would look like toy planes compared with them.

The extra power doesn't just mean heavier weapons, it also means more options - how about a laser that burns out human eyeballs - or starts forest fires? Or some sort of railgun, powerful enough to take out skyscrapers or bunkers? Or even an EMP weapon?

Blogger VFM bot #188 July 03, 2015 5:08 PM  

There will be countermeasures. Probably a shoulder-mounted weapon similar to the one used in Starship Troopers that took out a big building. You point it up in the air in the general direction of the loitering aircraft, left it get a good look-and-sniff, and turn it loose (and run like hell, same as the mobile infantry guy did when he let loose at that building).

Anonymous EG July 03, 2015 5:27 PM  

Mildly OT: There's a link to an ebook of JCW's "Somewhither" in the comments at his blog. Is this legit, Vox? A soft release, or something akin to Baen's eARCs? If so, take my money, please!

Anonymous Steve July 03, 2015 6:05 PM  

VFM bot #188 - There will be countermeasures

Definitely. Current MANPADS aren't effective against targets above 20,000 feet though (and most of the ones available to Third World armies and terrorists fall far short of this, being based on old Soviet Union designs).

So the drone just needs to loiter nice and high until it decides it needs to get closer to the ground for an attack - if that's even necessary.

We'll see better MANPADS come online but there probably aren't any startling advances to be made in rocketry. So perhaps other weapons might be more effective in combatting drones... some sort of improved flak cannon - say, steel ball bearings accelerated to supersonic speeds by a sort of EM shotgun, maybe? Or surface based energy beam weapons. Or maybe just a flock of cheap, expendable antiaircraft drones that can saturate the enemy drone's defences.

It's not just the technology that's interesting. The economics of warfare are being upended by drones - the F-35 costs about $35,000 per hour of flight time and requires more than a dozen trained technicians to spend at least half a day maintaining it after every sortie. And pilots are expensive.

The Predator costs about $1,500 per flight hour and has a much smaller maintenance burden.

So instead of only being able to afford to field - for talk's sake - a couple of squadrons of F-35's in a small war, with limited time in the air due to the need for refuelling, maintenance, and pilot rotation, for the same money we could achieve air supremacy with a much larger number of highly-available nuclear powered drones - which could then police the skies over Kreplachistan more or less indefinitely.

Demand and supply curves tell us that when something gets cheaper, we get more of it. So if war becomes cheaper...

"There Will Be War" was a very prescient title.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper July 03, 2015 6:14 PM  

Steve, the scariest technology in the battlefield today in my non military opinion is precision guidance. The ability to for example target any static undefended infrastructure at will is unimaginable power.

With long ballistic missiles, the US especially is highly vulnerable. Now certainly we have some limited AA defense and a huge number of fighters but a properly developed enemy can basically destroy our power, food, water and the like nearly at will. The US is not equipped socially or structurally to handle this kind of thing.

As far as the long linger drones, dependent on payload you might not even need atomic power. Stealthy solar drones can currently carry 250 lbs capacity. More advanced version might be stealthier or carry more and could carry "smart infantry kill clusters" with hundreds of autonomous mini HK rockets.

This wouldn't always work but its nigh impossible to run a country from hiding especially if such a foe ignores the political class to go after the wealthy and scientists and such. Yes its a 4th gen strategy destroying the society itself but its more effective on complex societies than other kinds.

Putin can run Russia from a hidden bunker if he has too ,the US leadership essentially almost all military hating social engineers cannot.

Blogger beerme #0183 July 03, 2015 6:16 PM  

I just cannot see drones being useful for anything other than domestic "policing" or the attempted subjugation of third world nations. They have all of the problems of the traditional Air Force combined with the potential for subversion/jamming.

I do see them being excellent terrorist weapons.

Blogger macengr July 03, 2015 6:19 PM  

@maniacprovost - directed emp
http://gizmodo.com/5454295/this-emp-cannon-stops-cars-almost-instantly

Blogger VD July 03, 2015 6:24 PM  

There's a link to an ebook of JCW's "Somewhither" in the comments at his blog. Is this legit, Vox? A soft release, or something akin to Baen's eARCs? If so, take my money, please!

Yes, the pre-launch offer went out to subscribers today. Unfortunately, the mail server chocked, so only about 150 went out.

Blogger Markku July 03, 2015 7:42 PM  

Dammit, I suppose I'll need to look into that. The mail serrver is that of my personal ISP. I guess it's not meant for this kind of volume.

Anonymous Dave July 03, 2015 8:12 PM  

I must be one of the 150 because I got the new release email; purchased Somewhither and TWBWIII epubs and got the bonus ebooks, bitches!

Any thought to making these covers available as wallpaper?

Blogger Marc DuQuesne July 03, 2015 8:43 PM  

Going off Wikipedia an F35 costs more than 8 times as much as an A10. I wonder how roughly equal land forces where one side has 16 F35s, and the other has 128 A10s at the start of the battle would turn out. Which would maintain air superiority, which would win the battle.

Anonymous Amok Time July 03, 2015 10:23 PM  

"The US is not equipped socially or structurally to handle this kind of thing."

And, perhaps that is ok. Most of the SJWs live in congested areas that make guided weapons effective.
If they all disappear then all the Hugos can go to the authors based in the wilds of rural America! Win-win.

Blogger epobirs July 04, 2015 5:19 AM  

Huzzah!

Blogger pdwalker July 04, 2015 8:53 AM  

I was compulsively checking my email more than normal.

Email arrived. Order to follow.

Blogger Groot July 05, 2015 3:52 AM  

George "Rape Rape", wakes up, realizes he's fallen asleep at the keyboard again, grabs a bag of Cheetos, checks the porn, and ramps up the Wurlitzer again. Rape doesn't write itself, you know! Compulsive isn't only a river in Egypt, is it?

Blogger Groot July 05, 2015 3:53 AM  

George "Rape Rape", wakes up, realizes he's fallen asleep at the keyboard again, grabs a bag of Cheetos, checks the porn, and ramps up the Wurlitzer again. Rape doesn't write itself, you know! Compulsive isn't only a river in Egypt, is it?

Anonymous Skidster July 05, 2015 6:52 PM  

Any chance the e-mails are still being sent?

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