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Monday, July 27, 2015

Those clever cuckservatives

They must think conservatives are mind-bogglingly stupid. Hot Air defends cuckservatives by claiming that trying to appeal to black voters is an effective long term strategy for Republicans:
This is horrifically shortsighted. It was amazing, yet unsurprising, how much agreement there was between FreedomWorks and Center for American Progress representatives during their joint summit on justice reform in DC. This wasn’t talking government spending, it was talking freedom, liberty, and getting the government out of things they shouldn’t be involved in. Rand Paul speaks at Bowie State and Howard universities and gets people nodding their heads in agreement. He’s discussing the importance of government getting out of the lives of others, not placating them or speaking about reparations. Paul is thinking long term and hopes to eventually get more conservative and libertarian African-Americans, instead of the current crop of leftists. It may take 30 to 50 years, but that doesn’t mean it’s not worth the effort.
Well, if people are nodding their heads, clearly that must trump 50 years of electoral voting patterns! What are demographics in comparison with a single politician's hopes?

1960 presidential election
White percentage of population: 85.4
Black vote: 68 percent Democrat.

1984 presidential election
White percentage of population: 75.6
Black: 10 percent of voters. 91 percent Democrat.
Hispanic: 3 percent of voters. 66 percent Democrat

2012 presidential election
White percentage of population: 63.7
Black: 13 percent of voters. 93 percent Democrat
Hispanic: 10 percent of voters. 71 percent Democrat

At this rate of progression, in 30 years the white percentage of the population will be 53.7, blacks will be voting 95 percent Democrat and Hispanics will be voting 76 percent Democrat. All of the Republican outreach efforts over the last 30 years have only made matters worse, and in the meantime, over 20 million new Democrats entered the country via post-1986 immigration. Another 30 to 50 years means another 30 to 50 million immigrants, less than 25 percent of whom will be inclined to vote for smaller government. It is obviously and observably the cuckservatives whose strategy is horrifically shortsighted.

The demographic implications are perfectly clear. Either the Republican Party moves considerably to the Left or it becomes the White Party. Those are its only two viable options. It is obvious which of those two options are preferred by cuckservatives, the only question will be whether they can retain their control of the Republican Party or not.

That being said, I happen to think the question is largely irrelevant. The current American political system doesn't have 30 years. It doesn't even have 20 left to it. As I have long predicted, I think the decline element of decline-and-fall will be complete by 2033.

Hateful Heretic's response to the Hot Air piece is straightforward and powerful:
Most of us really like capitalism, meritocracy, property rights, and the rule of law. Unlike you we recognize that the left's program of demographic replacement will destroy those things forever, and that those values, as "universally good" as they may be, are largely only attractive to persons of Anglo-European heritage....

You know what's short-sighted? Displacement-level immigration. Hispanics are not going to vote for freedom and capitalism. They don't vote for it in Mexico, they don't vote for it in Venezuela, they don't vote for it in Colombia, they don't vote for it in Bolivia, they don't vote for it in Argentina, they don't vote for it in Brazil, they don't vote for it in Chile, they don't vote for it in Guatemala, and they're not going to vote for it here.
He's right. Each successive wave of immigration, dating back to those coming from Europe, have pushed the USA further from its concept of liberty, limited government, and "the Rights of Englishmen". And on a related note, Mike Cernovich explains why he, and others on the alt-Right, have no qualms about dismissing and disregarding these theoretical "conservative" allies:
Cuckservatives control the right-wing airwaves. Have any of them reached out to me - someone who objectively speaking has a far greater reach and sells more books than the usual talking heads - to discuss men's issues? No. The right has ignored me and other men - even more palatable men like the A Voice for Men Camp - for years. They choose to ignore out concerns and refused to give us a platform.

When Gawker and MSNBC attacked me, where were these so-called "allies" on the right? 
When the only time they bother to notice you is to join the Left in attacking you, then they aren't an ally. Regardless of what they claim to believe. Also, and more importantly, the cuckservatives are on the wrong side of all three of the only three issues that really matter: national sovereignty, immigration, and the Federal Reserve. They might not be Leftists, but for all practical intents and purposes, they may as well be.

Considering how many of them have come out recently and endorsed gay "marriage", it appears that they're little more interested in conserving anything about traditional America than the neocons are. But conservatives don't agree with their cuckservative would-be leaders.

Big majority of GOP voters favors mass deportation, poll finds

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Blogger JartStar July 27, 2015 12:12 PM  

Cuckservatives are enablers at the very least.

Anonymous TLM July 27, 2015 12:15 PM  

Is it any coincidence that your girl Michelle Malkin is behind Hot Air when they defend the indefensible. I'm sure you'll enjoy bitch smacking her again for old time's sake.

Blogger Guderian July 27, 2015 12:17 PM  

Surprised but pleased to see Hateful Heretic quoted here.

Blogger dc.sunsets July 27, 2015 12:18 PM  

All collectivists are leftists, regardless of the slogan on their t-shirts. This is why the only choice on ballots has been Left for decades, possibly a century.

Today's center-ring absurdities are simply the blow-off top for a century of increasing hive-mindedness.

Blogger Shimshon July 27, 2015 12:20 PM  

Is empire-building or militarism a fourth issue?

Blogger Feather Blade July 27, 2015 12:21 PM  

Big majority of GOP voters favors mass deportation, poll finds

Easiest place to start? Prisons. Apparently the foreign-born hispanic criminals keep themselves apart from the American hispanic criminals so you don't have to worry about deporting citizens, they're all gathered in one place and can't run away, and it would reduce the prison population by... 20% IIRC.

Wins for everyone except the prison companies who make money based on numbers of occupants, and the Department of Corrections who pay the prison contractors less than the Dept receives for the housing of the prisoners.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 27, 2015 12:29 PM  

This is partly a reprise of the conversation about moderates and the practical benefits (or lack thereof) of trying not to offend them.

What's a moderate/cuckservative going to do if you offend him by pointing out that he's actually aiding the enemy? Will he go over to the left? If he does, he was probably a leftist all along and you just didn't know it. Will he attack you and thus aid the left? He was already doing that, so you've lost nothing. But what if he realizes his error and stops aiding the enemy? Maybe that's rare, but it's worth trying for. And even if you don't reach him, maybe you help others to avoid falling for his fallacies.

So when it comes to calling out moderates/cuckservatives, there's very little risk of loss, and considerable upside -- the lolz, if nothing else.

Anonymous Steve July 27, 2015 12:33 PM  

It may take 30 to 50 years, but that doesn’t mean it’s not worth the effort.

Anonymous Bz July 27, 2015 12:37 PM  

"Come with me if you want to live."

Anonymous KBT July 27, 2015 12:42 PM  

Just crack down on the employers using existing law. A few high level executives doing the perp walk will suffice. The migrants will autodeport- a phenomena we saw during the recent downturn.

I know it won't happen, but that's the low cost, low effort solution to start with.

Anonymous Steve July 27, 2015 12:45 PM  

Don’t believe the #cuckservative lie
Taylor Millard


Taylor Millard.

Seems legit.

Blogger Danby July 27, 2015 12:46 PM  

Cail @7
. But what if he realizes his error and stops aiding the enemy? Maybe that's rare, but it's worth trying for. And even if you don't reach him, maybe you help others to avoid falling for his fallacies.

Not going to happen. But well more than half of the adult White male population of this country has given up trying to fix things. The effort is really to attract them, by speaking for them and their interests. If you want to get the IT vote, for instance, just come out against H1B visas. Thanks to generous donations by Brin, Gates, et al no-one is taking that stance, and for a lot of men, that is the defining issue of our careers. I would literally vote for Bill Clinton, as much as I dislike his politics, if he came out against H1Bs. Not Hillary though.

Anonymous Soga July 27, 2015 12:47 PM  

To expand on that, Cail, if a moderate turned left after you voiced disagreement with him, odds are very good it wasn't a moderate to begin with.

As has been said before, moderate isn't so much a political position as it is a personality. Moderates stake out the moderate position because that's how their personality works. They don't like staking out a position that requires commitment. They want to sit on the fence until they see a clear winning side, and then make the easy conversion. They're conflict-avoidant people.

And what would turning leftist do for a moderate? It would invite a lot of conflict into his life. He would have to work to parrot the party line of the Left, which changes almost constantly. That's a life moderates really don't want to suffer.

Plus, think about it. Why do moderates never attack the Left, but always the Right? Because attacking the Left brings conflict, while the Right falls over themselves to appease. Path of least resistance. The strategy for dealing with moderates is thus, make their attacks on the Right as unpleasant as possible. Teach them that if they mess with us, they get messed with, just like what the Left does to them.

They'll shut up and get the point. Worst case, moderates quiver in fear of both Left and Right, no longer attacking the Right. Best case, they become one of us because they see we're not hypocritical pussies after all. Be the strong, winning side that moderates want to secretly cheer for.

Blogger Zach July 27, 2015 12:48 PM  

"A few high level executives doing the perp walk will suffice."

That would work for a slew of issues - for example, cleaning up the banking sector. Pour encourager les autres.

I won't hold my breath, but it's a lovely dream.

peace,
Zach

Anonymous Huckleberry July 27, 2015 12:49 PM  

Rand Paul speaks at Bowie State and Howard universities and gets people nodding their heads in agreement. He’s discussing the importance of government getting out of the lives of others

And the very minute that each of those nodding heads realizes that Paul also means the EBT cards get shut off and they're on their own, the jig is up.
"Have a heart" the cuckservatives say.
"Gracias" the Azatlan replies. "We'll take yours, still beating, right out of your chest. Our culture demands it."

The current American political system doesn't have 30 years. It doesn't even have 20 left to it

Of course.
All this fiscal can-kicking wasn't about anything prosaic like "forever"; there is a sell-by date, and the whole point of it is to kick the can right up to the gate. The GOP knows it well, probably down to the week and day.
And the cuckservatives still won't believe it.

Blogger El Borak July 27, 2015 12:50 PM  

Considering how many of them have come out recently and endorsed gay "marriage"...

It is the job of today's conservatives to conserve the victories of yesterday's liberals.

Anonymous Earl July 27, 2015 12:54 PM  

I used to haunt a cuckservative blog that was read by an old liberal commenter who hated the bloggers and commenters with a passion. He acted like they were satanic monstrosities. Right before the blogger shut down and started writing at Breitbart in 2012 I told the liberal that he was really going to miss the old Christian conservatives once the young secular conservatives arise. I even linked to Roissy for his edification. He scoffed. He could not imagine a more terrible creature than the cuckservative.

Anonymous BigGaySteve July 27, 2015 12:58 PM  

If you would rather be wrong than called racist you might be a cuck. With IQ being mostly genetic people with <90IQ will always vote for redistribution from productive people.

And the very minute that each of those nodding heads realizes that Paul also means the EBT cards get shut off and they're on their own,

I agree EBT card failure will be a big event but I don't think any of them will realize it ahead of time. Just like most gays didn't believe me about Bath House Barry telling black clergy a week before 2012 election that he would oppose gay marriage, with some responding that he was just tricking them.

Blogger Alexander Thompson July 27, 2015 1:00 PM  

I keep reading these rebuttles and these main stream pundits seem scared to death of the label. It's amazing the excuses they come up with to change the subject.

Anonymous Proud redneck July 27, 2015 1:00 PM  

You racist sockpuppets do not stop, do you?

Let me say it slowly:

I don't have "white interests." I have "the Constitution."

Blogger VD July 27, 2015 1:04 PM  

I don't have "white interests." I have "the Constitution."

Then you have nothing. The Constitution is dead. You're irrelevant.

You're also stupid if you think sockpuppets are involved.

Anonymous Huckleberry July 27, 2015 1:05 PM  

I don't have "white interests." I have "the Constitution."

And y'all have been doing a bang-up job with it the past few decades.
Good job.

You racist sockpuppets do not stop, do you?

It takes troll-level insanity to go to another man's website and call all of the regulars sock-puppets.

Anonymous Eric Wilson #0242 July 27, 2015 1:05 PM  

So is a Trump endorsement forthcoming?

Blogger Gunnar von Cowtown July 27, 2015 1:06 PM  

@7
What's a moderate/cuckservative going to do if you offend him by pointing out that he's actually aiding the enemy?

I think it depends whether or not they're capable of dialectic. If not... well, you've covered those scenarios. If so, they may change. At some point in our lives we've all had some one tell us a bitter truth about ourselves. What was your first reaction? For most people it's anger and/or denial. After time passes, you can either accept the truth, change and grow, or rationalize it away. The cuckservatives are still angry and lashing back. Over the next few months it will be interesting to see who among them learns, changes and grows.

Anonymous p-dawg July 27, 2015 1:06 PM  

@Proud redneck: Who wrote the Constitution?

Blogger YIH July 27, 2015 1:11 PM  

@6 Feather Blade:
Easiest place to start? Prisons.
I'm not so fond of that, considering the level of corruption in the countries they came from, I suspect that deporting violent felons would have the effect of paroling them.
Would their country of origin even take them? If they did, would they even bother to lock them up?
I have my doubts.

Blogger VD July 27, 2015 1:16 PM  

So is a Trump endorsement forthcoming?

I am not particularly interested in the US elections. But a Trump candidacy would certainly put the relevant issues on the table, so he'd be the best Republican candidate. None of them are good, though.

Anonymous 11B July 27, 2015 1:17 PM  

So when it comes to calling out moderates/cuckservatives, there's very little risk of loss, and considerable upside -- the lolz, if nothing else.

I suppose you could add with friends like those who needs enemies.

Anonymous Roundtine July 27, 2015 1:17 PM  

I don't have "white interests." I have "the Constitution."

It's fine if you want to defend the Constitution, but then you have to start by deporting all the immigrants here who don't believe in it.

Anonymous patrick kelly July 27, 2015 1:17 PM  

"It takes troll-level insanity to go to another man's website and call all of the regulars sock-puppets."

Heh, I don't think it even knows what sock-puppet means, it's just a bad-feel-insult to throw around........... too bad we don't squee....

Blogger Danby July 27, 2015 1:19 PM  

Stupid Redneck @20
I don't have "white interests." I have "the Constitution."

Sorry, son, you ain't no redneck. A redneck looks out for his own first. A redneck despises anyone arrogant enough to tell him how think. A redneck keeps his mouth shut until he's damn sure what he's going to say. A redneck is dangerous.
You're just a good ol' boy. Just like Jeb! or Haley Barbour, or Lindsey Graham. Shooting off you mouth and thinking, for some reason it makes you look smart.

And what has The Constitution (tm) done for me lately? Evidently it means that I can be dictated to by a bunch of law school grads and i have no say in the matter at all. I live in a country that is, in many ways, less free than South Korea, Russia and England.

So, what's your grand plan to Restore the Constitution(tm)? Elect more people from the party of Boehner, Bush and McConnell? Get another seat on the supreme court?

We tried that, it doesn't work.

Fuck you, shut your inadequate dick sucking apparatus and go be irrelevant somewhere else.

Anonymous joyce July 27, 2015 1:22 PM  

silly logic, Vox. Never assume especially with voting patterns. After three generations Hispanics vote remarkably similar to whites. Republican. I expect to see the same trend with blacks three generations out from civil rights. Don't be fooled by extreme rhetoric from over educated black activists. People in the hood want jobs, security, low crime, etc

Blogger YIH July 27, 2015 1:23 PM  

@10 KBT:
Just crack down on the employers using existing law. A few high level executives doing the perp walk will suffice.
Do you honestly think Donald Trump would support that?
Flirting with drag queens sure, but being led to a police car in cuffs? Would you?

Blogger JartStar July 27, 2015 1:23 PM  

The 2016 election will be telling because I've seen it argued that the demographics have already sealed the GOPs fate regardless of the candidates. Can people on the left be any less enthusiastic about Hillary as a candidate? Right now, she still wins by default simply on the demographic vote.

Blogger Michelle *Minion #311* July 27, 2015 1:25 PM  

If "good Americans" aren't concerned with preserving the white race, they are dead Americans.

Blogger VD July 27, 2015 1:27 PM  

'cuckservative' is a paid operation by pysch-ops agents. Robert Stacey McCain proved this yesterday.

No, he didn't. I read the piece. You're lying. Retract or you'll be banned.

Again, this disinfo operation was confirmed by @rsmccain yesterday.

No, it wasn't. You're lying. Again.

After three generations Hispanics vote remarkably similar to whites. Republican. I expect to see the same trend with blacks three generations out from civil rights

You're either stupid or lying. That's not true about Hispanics. And it's not true about blacks either.

Blogger Patrick July 27, 2015 1:27 PM  

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Anonymous JustCuckservativeThings July 27, 2015 1:27 PM  

I don't have "white interests." I have "the Constitution."

Blogger Corvinus July 27, 2015 1:28 PM  

It is the job of today's conservatives to conserve the victories of yesterday's liberals.

@El Borak

“The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected. Even when the revolutionist might himself repent of his revolution, the traditionalist is already defending it as part of his tradition. Thus we have two great types -- the advanced person who rushes us into ruin, and the retrospective person who admires the ruins. He admires them especially by moonlight, not to say moonshine. Each new blunder of the progressive or prig becomes instantly a legend of immemorial antiquity for the snob. This is called the balance, or mutual check, in our Constitution.” --G.K. Chesterton

Blogger Brad Andrews July 27, 2015 1:29 PM  

Would their country of origin even take them? If they did, would they even bother to lock them up?

What happens if one country forcibly repatriates someone?

We have no obligation to feed and house them either whatever their reception in their home country. It would require a stronger stomach in dealing with illegal immigration however, something we do not have now. Keeping them out of the country would take effort, but would almost certainly be cheaper than housing them in our prison system.

Anonymous Huckleberry July 27, 2015 1:29 PM  

'cuckservative' is a paid operation by pysch-ops agents. Robert Stacey McCain proved this yesterday

How, by telling everyone he made a phone call to people who know? All he did in that post was complain about how stupid "alt right" is for paranoid conspiracy delusions, then went on for 1,000 words about his own conspiracy delusion.

but the vast majority using this racist slur are sockpuppets or paid shills. Maybe paid by Trump, but probably Hillary employees

And?

Good Americans are not White Power freaks, or trying to "preserve the white race."

We don't care.

Anonymous Nathanael July 27, 2015 1:29 PM  

@20 How did the protections of the Yugoslavia constitution work out in Bosnia?

Blogger Alexander July 27, 2015 1:31 PM  

Lululul, 'this racist slur'.

Quick, the message is catching on! Call it racist!

Same old playbook. But as another commenter (Steve, I think) said in an epic about the siege of Tor:

"I'm sorry. You seem to have mistaken us for Republicans."

Blogger Corvinus July 27, 2015 1:32 PM  

Lululul, 'this racist slur'.

Quick, the message is catching on! Call it racist!


@Alexander
It would appear cuckservatives enjoy throwing around the wacist term just as much as SJWs do.

Blogger Feather Blade July 27, 2015 1:32 PM  

@26 YIH
Would their country of origin even take them? If they did, would they even bother to lock them up?

Who cares?

Yes we'd have to do something to keep them from walking right on over the border, like a full biometric/ IDing marks/ fingerprints database with "shoot on sight" orders if they're ever found in the US again. Or better yet, bounties!

But getting them to their home country is just a matter of driving them to the nearest border crossing and telling them to vamoose (probably at gunpoint.)

Anonymous cheddarman July 27, 2015 1:32 PM  

After three generations Hispanics vote remarkably similar to whites. Republican. -joyce

Yeah Joyce, they get a magical infusion of old school anglo-saxon culture and DNA that makes them smarter and develop longer term time preferences,but the magical transformation only works after 3 generations...George Bush and Carl Rove told me so, so its gotta be true

Anonymous Nathanael July 27, 2015 1:33 PM  

@32 "Never assume especially with voting patterns. After three generations Hispanics vote remarkably similar to whites. Republican. I expect to see the same trend with blacks three generations out from civil rights."

3rd generation Hispanics vote 2 to 1 AGAINST conservatives.

Blacks three generations out from "civil rights" vote 9 to 1 AGAINST conservatives.

White vote 2 or 3 to 1 FOR conservatives.

So you're either stupid or lying.

Blogger Jack Ward July 27, 2015 1:37 PM  

Have to share this: Everytime I see the term 'cuckservatives' my mind tries to translate it into 'cluckservatives; as in chickens. I suppose both terms could effectively work the descriptive.

Blogger Alexander July 27, 2015 1:38 PM  

Don't be fooled by extreme rhetoric from over educated black activists. People in the hood want jobs, security, low crime, etc

Just like ISIS!

Blogger Gunnar von Cowtown July 27, 2015 1:38 PM  

@47
So you're either stupid or lying.

I'm guessing a little from column A, a little from column B.

Anonymous A Visitor July 27, 2015 1:39 PM  

"A part of the problem those screaming “cuckservative” have is they are just blind in their belief the only place for conservatism is the white race."

Well, looking outside of the U.S. (which is relevant given the 3rd World tide inundating us), it is. Even then, it is a smaller minority within the white race that is conservative. I've known conservative non-whites in other countries but they are the exception, not the rule.

"It was amazing, yet unsurprising, how much agreement there was between FreedomWorks and Center for American Progress representatives during their joint summit on justice reform in DC."

Ah yes, FreedomWorks, one of the usurpers of the Tea Party movement. Listening to Limbuagh and he just said that, "Trump simply validates what other people think and fell."

Thanks for the statistics. I've used them previously to destroy the myth that the right wing needs to capture the black or Hispanic vote. Am I truly racist? No. I simply understand people make the place.

I interned for my Congressman just after graduating from undergrad. I went across the river the day after getting to DC to get some bedding sheets. I was floored how many illegals there were in Virginia. It blew my mind.

" As I have long predicted, I think the decline element of decline-and-fall will be complete by 2033." It'll probably start circa 2020 per Pat Buchanan's book title.

"Displacement-level immigration. Hispanics are not going to vote for freedom and capitalism. They don't vote for it in Mexico, they don't vote for it in Venezuela, they don't vote for it in Colombia, they don't vote for it in Bolivia, they don't vote for it in Argentina, they don't vote for it in Brazil, they don't vote for it in Chile, they don't vote for it in Guatemala, and they're not going to vote for it here."

YES!!!!!! This is soooooo true! I have an Argentine aunt, exception, not the rule.

There was an old CNN poll Lou Dobbs did in 2005 and showed an overwhelming number of Americans (not just GOPers) favored fewer immigrants in the U.S.

"By 56-42, Americans support developing a plan to legalize undocumented immigrants over stopping their flow and deporting those already here. "

A family member always argues that we should legalize them since they're already here so that they'll pay taxes. I always counter with the country will be destroyed with their legalization.

"Indeed, the CNN poll hints at the demographic challenge the GOP will faceafter Trump fades"

Cutscene to January 20, 2017, "I, Donald Trump, do hereby solemnly swear..."

Granted the man may do nothing in the end about legal immigration. He's making all the right noises about illegals for the moment.

"People in the hood want jobs, security, low crime, etc"

People in the hood want free hand outs and Obamaphones.

@38 LOL!

Blogger Alexander July 27, 2015 1:40 PM  

my mind tries to translate it into 'cluckservatives; as in chickens

Seems a mite unfair: in addition to being useful members of civilization, chickens aren't inclined to demand that foxes have equal access to the coop!

Yeah, yeah, I know what you meant...

Anonymous wEz July 27, 2015 1:40 PM  

This was a good read. I've been saying for awhile now that I don't believe we will see another republican win the presidency. Its a simple matter of voting trends and race demographics. Every four years how many more hispanics are eligible to vote? And if half of those new eligible voters vote dem at a 75 percent clip (as Vox points out), where can repubs make up that difference?
Blacks and hispanics have been bought off via free handouts of the welfare system/gov't subsidies and there is no argument or conversation that will change their mind to surrender these entitlements.

Blogger Chiva July 27, 2015 1:41 PM  

Don't be fooled by extreme rhetoric from over educated black activists

Sharpton? Jackson?

Anonymous Scintan July 27, 2015 1:41 PM  

As has been said before, moderate isn't so much a political position as it is a personality.

No matter how many times it's said, it will still be wrong.

Blogger Alexander Thompson July 27, 2015 1:42 PM  

The Other McCain price was almost parody. He can't accept that a large group is opposing from the right so it must be Astroturf.

Then he smears it all antisemitic in what makes one wonder if he does like Isreal more than America.

I think this is all what I'm calling 'ESPN' syndrome. They all fear anything even remotely racist might cost them high profit pundit gigs on news networks so they flee in the other direction.

Which proves the point really.

Blogger James Dixon July 27, 2015 1:46 PM  

> I don't have "white interests." I have "the Constitution."

The best answer to that was said long ago: http://www.contemplator.com/america/rebel.html

Anonymous Huckleberry July 27, 2015 1:48 PM  

where can repubs make up that difference?

With whites, but it's apparently racis to say that, and at any rate they ain't interested, hence "cuckservative" and the genesis of this entire kerfuffle.

Anonymous Discard July 27, 2015 1:48 PM  

Brad Andrews: We would not have to deport all unwanted non-citizens as a first step. We could, for example, deny them any government benefits or employment. We could enforce the laws and stick them in prison for every sort of felony, and execute any murderers or rapists among them. We could repudiate birthright citizenship for the offspring of foreigners. We could jail those Americans who employ foreigners without work visas. Any riots by foreigners would be put down mercilessly. This would take care of most of the problem.
I understand that these measures could not be carried out by the present government. Only a government that had the stomach to, if necessary, dump them over the border and leave them, could successfully do these things. A wartime government for a time of war.

Blogger YIH July 27, 2015 1:49 PM  

@20 Tad
Hi Tad, *sigh* again. Shut up Tad.

Blogger hank.jim July 27, 2015 1:52 PM  

"Big majority of GOP voters favors mass deportation, poll finds"

Which is not enough to do it. We can't even do the border fence and deport criminal aliens. The march of leftism is hard to contain. It cannot be contained.

Blogger Cataline Sergius July 27, 2015 1:52 PM  

From the article: They claim it’s similar to “RINO” or "squish."

Big difference. Two years ago I was calling them RINOs. Today I acknowledge without question or restraint that they are in fact the real Republicans.

And that I am in fact a NEARIN: Not Even A Republican In Name.


In their infinite arrogance and stupidity the Republican party has written off it's old base without bothering to acquire a new one.

Anonymous Earl July 27, 2015 1:57 PM  

I am having a hard time. Which is more entertaining: Rabid Puppies, or #cuckservative?

Anonymous BGS July 27, 2015 1:59 PM  

The problem with RHINO is you have to explain it and the image coming to mind is a strong animal.

After three generations Hispanics vote remarkably similar to whites. Republican

Don't mistake the right half of the bell curve fleeing communist redistribution in Cuba for the left half of Mexico's bell curve seeking a place with hand outs. The smartest most productive Mexicans are still in Mexico. Everyone who was better off working than on welfare fled Cuba, everyone who was better off on welfare than working fled Mexico.

'cuckservative' is a paid operation by pysch-ops agents. Robert Stacey McCain proved this yesterday.

He also proved that blacks are equal at math and science by "jazz hands"

Would their country of origin even take them? If they did, would they even bother to lock them up?

The 5 time deported felon that killed the SF white girl after stealing a gun from a cops car shows how deporting illegal felons works, unless you are willing to brand them so they will be recognized for faster deportation or worse.

Anonymous patrick kelly July 27, 2015 2:00 PM  

"As has been said before, moderate isn't so much a political position as it is a personality.

No matter how many times it's said, it will still be wrong."

So what do you call someone who sticks his finger up into the wind and moves to the position with the least likely conflict with anyone no matter what his real conviction (if any) may be?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 27, 2015 2:00 PM  

Ask the cucks to lecture you on your white privilege and don't let it go since they absolutely refuse to confront the left and it's racist bigotry. We can start with that POS redneck poster up thread who lectures us but not the left

Blogger D. Lane (#0067) July 27, 2015 2:01 PM  

You racist sockpuppets do not stop, do you?

As a verifiable POC, I find this question to be undeniably offensive and dehumanizing.

I don't have "white interests." I have "the Constitution."

Lose the former and loss of the latter inevitably follows. The majority of the minority demographics conservatives have been trying to recruit into the right-wing camp could not possibly care less about consistently adopting the philosophy necessary to maintaining the constitutional republic you so desire. For most of them, such an arrangement is directly against their interests.

Good Americans are not White Power freaks, or trying to "preserve the white race." Get informed!

Pointing out the negative consequences of reducing the white population while simultaneously increasing the non-white population via all possible channels has nothing to do with White Power. It is a statement of demonstrable fact, which any "informed" individual would know, possessing at least a cursory knowledge of the relevant statistics.

Blogger David-093 July 27, 2015 2:05 PM  

What is so difficult for these fourth wits to understand?

We dont care.

Blogger YIH July 27, 2015 2:09 PM  

@56
Alexander Thompson:
I think this is all what I'm calling 'ESPN' syndrome. They all fear anything even remotely racist might cost them high profit pundit gigs on news networks so they flee in the other direction.
Bingo! Or even high-profit gigs they already have. That's why talk radio (and Trump) follows the Me-So model of ''it's only illegal immigration that's bad!''

Blogger Cail Corishev July 27, 2015 2:16 PM  

I don't have "white interests." I have "the Constitution."

I may need to make a macro for this quote in the coming years:

"I am sorry, gentlemen, that I will be obliged to save your goddamn necks along with mine." -- Hank Rearden

Blogger ray July 27, 2015 2:22 PM  

New Tranceformed Amerika does not have 50 years. It ain't getting 30 years either. Not down this road. Dream on.

Do any of these people actually live in the U.S.? Look around. This place is dying inside.

Liars telling lies to people who want lies, and I am sick of them all and their fat lives. Demoncraps, CAP, the republicants, rand paul, rot in hell you traitors.

Anonymous BGS July 27, 2015 2:28 PM  

OT- PPGATE doxxing http://www.dailydot.com/politics/planned-parenthood-hacked-anti-abortion-3301/ Anti-abortion hackers attack Planned Parenthood, release databases, employee data

Blogger Cail Corishev July 27, 2015 2:33 PM  

Would their country of origin even take [deported felons]?

Cargo planes. Parachutes.

But you're right: deporting felons when the border is wide open may not be a great idea in isolation. Border control has to be part of it.

If they did, would they even bother to lock them up?

I don't know why that would be any of our business. Whatever they did to wind up in an American prison might not even be against the law in their native land. Does Colombia care whether its citizens smoke the ganja, drive with a blood alcohol level of .081, or cheat the US IRS? I don't know and don't care.

So tell foreign countries: "If you work with us on repatriating your people, we'll work with you. We'll bring them into the port/airport of your choice and turn them over with all the necessary paperwork so that you'll know what crimes they committed under our laws (in addition to the crime of invasion, of course) and can decide what to do with them. Refuse to work with us, and we'll release them by the truck/plane/ship-load in out-of-the-way corners of your country and let you deal with the mess."

Anonymous Michael Maier July 27, 2015 2:36 PM  

I don't have "white interests." I have "the Constitution."

This is a moron or a liar. 50/50 chance. Either way, it's one of the dummest things I've ever read posted here.

Pop quiz asshole: Name a single article or amendment to the US Constitution that hasn't been assaulted by all three branches of the federal government in the last decade.

Well, apart from the general welfare clause (which has absolutely no power anyway) and the restriction on lowering federal pay.

Blogger YIH July 27, 2015 2:39 PM  

Thought I'd pass this along from the Chateau:
Shit Cuckservatives Say.
If I'm going to be a sockpuppet, then I want to be Sifl, not that lame pets.com mascot.

Blogger Harsh July 27, 2015 2:45 PM  

I don't have "white interests." I have "the Constitution."

So the only question is did you cut your balls off yourself or did someone do you the favor, my little eunuch?

Blogger Cail Corishev July 27, 2015 2:55 PM  

We already have the example of Jeb Bush to show us where lies the high-water mark for Republican appeal to mestizos.

If a Republican marries a Mexican woman, basically lives as a dual citizen with deep connections in Mexico (and other Latin American countries), speaks Spanish as often as possible, rejects or soft-pedals most conservative positions, promises Mexico that he'll bend over for it in trade, promises Mexicans that he'll share America's wealth with them wherever possible, supports ever-increasing government power and handouts, and attacks conservative members of his own party with greater gusto than he ever goes after liberals or foreign enemies....

If he does all those things, AND has tons of money to spend, AND has the complete backing of the GOP establishment, AND he's not facing a very strong opponent....he might be able to squeak out as much as 60% of the "Hispanic" vote.

But if he's just a regular white guy who already made the bad political move of marrying a white woman, and he's not willing to entirely sell out the country to corporate and foreign interests, there's no way for him to get over 30%. Last time I checked, that's still losing.

Anonymous Dirtnapninja July 27, 2015 2:57 PM  

Black America partly defines itself in opposition to white america. White Conservatives will never make any headway amongst them.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 27, 2015 2:58 PM  

If there is any such thing as a US Constitution 50 years from now, it won't have been defended/created primarily by people with high-minded ideals about documents. It will be thanks to people with kin-based and land-based attachments -- things which could easily be called "white interests" if you wanted to look at them a certain way.

Anonymous Jonathan July 27, 2015 3:00 PM  

The only part of any constitution that I haven't seen ignored is the clause in the IL Constitution that doesn't allow for public employee benefits to be reduced. That clause is sacred and followed to the letter.

Anonymous Elijah Rhodes July 27, 2015 3:05 PM  

For those who are fretting about how we could possibly remove 30 million illegals (or whatever the number is), it's really quite simple:

1. Deny any and all government services to illegals, with harsh penalties to anyone caught granting services.

2. Make it a felony to hire an illegal, with a minimum 5 year prison sentence per infraction. A farmer with 20 wetbacks would get 100 years in prison without parol.

If we had any balls, we would also:

3. Revoke all green cards and visas issued within the last 10 years.

4. Revoke the anchor baby law. Any baby born in this country can only be the nationality of their parents. Period.

5. Put a 20 year moratorium on all immigration.

Anonymous Mike M. (minion #315) July 27, 2015 3:06 PM  

I think an aggressive deportation effort might peel some of the Black vote away from the Democrats. Not much, but every bit counts.

But I'd argue that the #1 priority has to be the construction of a proper Barrier Wall across the southern border. Not a "fence", a Barrier Wall - multiple fences, with a minefield between them. Seal the border air-tight. Plug the leak first, pump out the water second.

The second priority is the disposition of the illegals. I can see two possible options. My preferred course would be to show them to the other side of the Barrier Wall. The other course would be to allow some or all to remain...but they count against the immigration quotas from their countries. No further immigration from those countries until the illegals have been worked off.

Illegals convicted of crimes, or consuming welfares, will be deported instantly, of course. Put them on ships, sail to the port farthest from the United States, then request docking permission. If permission is granted, dock and land the repatriated illegals. If not....over the side in international waters, with directions to the homeland that wanted to see them drown.

BTW, I'm a big believer in keeping immigration low...and with a strict policy that no more than 5% of immigrants come from any single country.

Anonymous Stilicho July 27, 2015 3:07 PM  

Nearly 3,000 murders committed by or aided by known illegal aliens in Texas alone since 2008. N.B. That doesn't include murders where illegals aren't in fingerprint database already. That's equivalent to another 9-11. In. Texas. Alone.

Hat tip Anonymous Conservative (relaying pj media report by J. Christian Adams).

Manson family values don't stop at the Rio Grande!

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer July 27, 2015 3:07 PM  

Expect hate speech laws to be passed over the "objections" of the GOP which will be powerless to stop them, even with a large majority of senate and house seats.

As people start to get more vocal and look for alternatives to the GOP that is how they will attempt to stop them. Can't let a little thing like democracy among people who aren't really equipped to handle it stop corporate profits.

Anonymous Huckleberry July 27, 2015 3:11 PM  

The most hilarious part about all this is not 36 hours after this kerfuffle began, the GOP goes and does it to them again by, er, ramming the Highway Bill through the Senate.
It's like when a woman makes a big production to her husband about sleeping with another man, again and again and again.
I wish they had a word for that, it'd really help illustrate the concept.

Anonymous patrick kelly July 27, 2015 3:11 PM  

I used to only have political loyalty to the Constitution. This blog was instrumental in coming to the realization that it has been dead and buried for a long time and it's too late to resurrect it. No-one here knows me in person, but this has been a very painful for me, I'm coming along kicking and screaming, but whiskey helps.......

Blogger Alexander July 27, 2015 3:12 PM  

Hispanics don't vote Democrat or Republican. They vote Hispanic. The party is just a current tool of convenience for transferring white wealth to them.

The idea that a political party can exist in a multicultural nation without having to declare a racial or cultural loyalty is only believed by American Whites.

It doesn't even require a gap in cultures as wide as Anglo-Saxon and Hispaztlan. Anglo-Saxon and French Canadian, or Anglo-Saxon and Scot, or Flemish-Walloon, or Castillian - Catalan make the point.

Ours is just going to be more explosive as its a wider gap where the elite has sought to destroy any rational lines for a peaceable geographic division.

But the idea that a party, especially one that claims the supremacy of a document written and inspired damn near exclusively by Anglo-Saxons could be upheld without such a declaration is absurd.

Blogger Corvinus July 27, 2015 3:16 PM  

I don't have "white interests." I have "the Constitution."

My comment on "the Constitution": it, and the philosophical basis it's based on, only work when the citizens of the country in question are Christian or have a Christian ethos, along with the exclusively Western European, if not Anglo-Saxon-Celtic, attitude of small government.

This is no longer the case. Separation of Church and State? Sure, works fine, again, when a solid majority of the population are unapologetically Christian. Nowadays, however, we are treated to the spectacle of sodomogamy gaining widespread, even fanatical, support.

Federal government supremacy, the three branches of government, presidential appointments to the courts, etc. are more things that worked well enough 200 years ago, but are disastrous nowadays. For the good of the populace, Fedgov must be dismantled and the 50 states reduced to a Schengen-like customs union.

Blogger Sam July 27, 2015 3:17 PM  

Cuckservative capacity for altruism is admirable. They are often nice people and no doubt make good neighbors. However, their sense of fair-play and openess (and blind pride in America) has been shamelessly exploited, and they have aided their enemies in their own maginalization. Per the Constitution:

"We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America..."

Note "our posterity." There is (or rather, "was") an organic continuum spanning generations of a people committed to a shared political project established by founding generations. The notion of the US as a proposition nation is a recent fiction and is the Trojan Horse of its undoing. The wages of cuckservatism is death.

Blogger Corvinus July 27, 2015 3:18 PM  

@Sam

Actually, many of the Founding Fathers were cuckservatives, such as Thomas Jefferson and his quotes about Muslims.

Blogger Justin C July 27, 2015 3:20 PM  

Vox, As a young millennial, father, and home owner, what would you do in my position? Im trying desperately to figure any angle to obtain a dual citizenship, but I have current military obligations (guard) and the fact that the most recent immigrant ancestor is my great great grandparents. I'll be in my 50's when 2033 comes.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 27, 2015 3:21 PM  

The Left is re introducing Race into the American political lexicon. Anti-racism is no longer useful, racism is now useful and the Cucks have to defend it. That idiot McCain and his other cuckservative friends are way behind with their color blind contardism.

Cucks are done, they are in no mans land and the battle coming will kill them off and seriously damage the Left. We are almost to Yugo-America that damn close to having a politician deliver a Field of Blackbirds speech.

Blogger Bodichi (0031) July 27, 2015 3:24 PM  

@ Justin C

I am in your same position and understand you trepidation. Why don't you want to train your progeny to protect itself and take back what was stolen from them?

Trump is not a good person and this is not an endorsement, but if there is one hting he has shown us it is that fighting back is not futile.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 27, 2015 3:25 PM  

Here is a cool graphic for the Cucks
http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2015/07/27/on-cuckservatives/

Anonymous Stilicho #0066 July 27, 2015 3:28 PM  

Known illegal aliens (ie their fingerprints were already in criminal database) charged with nearly 3,000 homicides in Texas alone since 2008. That's another 9-11 since 2008. In Texas. Alone. (hat tip Anonymous Conservative relaying TX DPS data included in pj media report).

Manson family values don't stop at the Rio Grande!

Blogger Bodichi (0031) July 27, 2015 3:29 PM  

@Mr. Mantra Man

Excellent Link, thanks!

Blogger Alexander July 27, 2015 3:29 PM  

Separation of Church and State is fine when you've got a bunch of states that are all Christians and share the same basic legal and moral code, and ok - you got a few that are Catholic and one with Quakers and some with old school Puritans... so lets agree to make sure that those theological differences don't become points of contention for a federal government that should concern itself with little beyond national defense, anyway.

It is an absolutely awful idea when you're federal government grows to the point that it's going to be enacting and enforcing some sort of moral code, and the only question is whose. It's double-down stupid when you have several groups that are entirely opposed to your own running around using what was originally a code of conduct between your ingroup members as a weapon to silence you entirely.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 27, 2015 3:29 PM  

Hispanics don't vote Democrat or Republican. They vote Hispanic.

That's a good point. I've been convinced for a while now that the strategy of the Bush family, and the main reason for the "Hispanics are natural conservatives" lie, is to make the Republican Party the Hispanic Party the way the Democratic Party has become the black/gay Party.

Anonymous Stilicho July 27, 2015 3:32 PM  

Test

Blogger Corvinus July 27, 2015 3:32 PM  

silly logic, Vox. Never assume especially with voting patterns. After three generations Hispanics vote remarkably similar to whites. Republican.

@joyce
If and only if they're only one-eighth Hispanic and seven-eighths white European by then.

Don't mistake the right half of the bell curve fleeing communist redistribution in Cuba for the left half of Mexico's bell curve seeking a place with hand outs.

@BGS
Never, ever, ever trust a Cuban Republican on immigration. They're all cuckservatives on that issue, without exception.

Anonymous stilicho July 27, 2015 3:36 PM  

@corvinus, definitely if they're catholic. Jury's still out on the Baptist.

Blogger Corvinus July 27, 2015 3:37 PM  

@Stilicho

Nah, Cruz tried to triple legal immigration in the last amnesty fight in the Senate.

Anonymous Quartermaster July 27, 2015 3:41 PM  

The country doesn't have until 2033. It doesn't have another 5 years.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar July 27, 2015 3:46 PM  

Yeah, look. Here you're preaching to the choir, and those in the zombie GOP are already irrelevant. The fact that the entire establishment of Cuckolds has opposed Trump and he's crushing all their big money blowhards shows how irrelevant they are. They have lost whatever base they had, and their party is already at the Elephant Graveyard.
When Boner and McCuckold rolled over after winning the 2014 elections where the Leftists were massacred and crying in their beers, it showed everyone what a COMPLETE SHAM VOTING REALLY IS.
Prepare for War. They're not letting Trump into the debates, and Bretton Woods is now dead thanks to the BRICs bank. They won't give up their perks willingly. Looking at them none of these milquetoasts in Wonderland even see reality or the Storm that's coming. However, you should. Someday soon the amount of money they borrow is going to exactly equal the interest they pay on the debt. The day after, those Government checks are going to bounce like superballs. The Day the EBT stopped working is soon to come. Act accordingly.

Blogger dc.sunsets July 27, 2015 3:47 PM  

I thought this was among the most eloquent explanations I've seen:
http://therightstuff.biz/2015/07/26/cuckservatism-response-to-taylor-millard/

And it's only in part about race. Most of us would be very, very unhappy living under an all-white, Communist, feminist state. Most of us really like capitalism, meritocracy, property rights, and the rule of law. Unlike you we recognize that the left's program of demographic replacement will destroy those things forever, and that those values, as "universally good" as they may be, are largely only attractive to persons of Anglo-European heritage.

Blogger dc.sunsets July 27, 2015 3:48 PM  

There are lots of "universally good" values that collectivists reject.

This is why I reject collectivism, whether the T-shirt is of Che or the Constitution of 1787.

Anonymous Nathanael July 27, 2015 3:50 PM  

@105 I'm not pro-Communist by any standard, but it's worth noting that multiculturalism is so bad that 57% of East Germans are nostalgic over the old days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostalgie

Blogger dc.sunsets July 27, 2015 3:51 PM  

Anonymous Conservative credits Trump with giving the "hate-RINOs" republicans the rally point they've missed all these years.

Is the media's "Trump will kill the GOP" meme an inversion of the truth?

Blogger Alexander July 27, 2015 4:03 PM  

Well yes, but it's important to note that they are Germans - they have a very high tolerance for tolerance for a police state.

So ask an Englishman if he'd prefer the multiculti insanity or a totalitarian police state, and he's troubled because both go against his preferred system. But give an East German (a literal Prussian) a choice between the multiculti and an ordered police state comprised entirely of fellow Germans who all agree that a crosslight must be obeyed even when the road is closed to vehicle traffic... I only marvel that it's just 57%.

Blogger Feather Blade July 27, 2015 4:06 PM  

@65 patrick kellySo what do you call someone who sticks his finger up into the wind and moves to the position with the least likely conflict with anyone no matter what his real conviction (if any) may be?

Weather-vanes or wind-socks, I would think.

Anonymous p-dawg July 27, 2015 4:09 PM  

"what a COMPLETE SHAM VOTING REALLY IS"

I've been saying that for years. On this blog, even.

Anonymous Axe Head July 27, 2015 4:09 PM  

@20 You can have your Cuckstitution.

Blogger YIH July 27, 2015 4:09 PM  

@100 Corvinus:
Don't mistake the right half of the bell curve fleeing communist redistribution in Cuba for the left half of Mexico's bell curve seeking a place with hand outs.
The reason those Cubans went solid GOP was due to Dem. JFK. Their kids however...

Blogger Alexander July 27, 2015 4:13 PM  

Exactly. When Hispanic Cubans thought that there was a chance that they would get to go back to Cuba and have all their stuff restored and reparations paid out of Castro's coffers, enforced by the US Marines, then it was 'good for the Cubans' to be Republican.

Now, the next generation either recognizes that it will never happen, don't particularly care to go back to a destitute island anyway, and so 'what's good for the Cubans' is to ensure as much wealth gets funneled their way as possible.

The Cuckservatives may be able to provide that here-and-there, now-and-then... but there's simply no safer bet than Daddy Democrat, so you can rest assured that that's where the vote will go.

Right up until the checks bounce.

Anonymous Stilicho July 27, 2015 4:16 PM  

@corvinus, well, that makes my choice difficult. Who do I write in, Buchanan or Chuck Norris?

Blogger YIH July 27, 2015 4:22 PM  

@114
Also the demographics of Miami's Cubans changed substantially in 1980.

Blogger victor July 27, 2015 4:25 PM  

The cuckservative is the equivalent of the Jew shoveling fellow Jews into the ovens. They are traitors to western civilization.

Blogger Joshua Dyal July 27, 2015 4:39 PM  

The second priority is the disposition of the illegals. I can see two possible options. My preferred course would be to show them to the other side of the Barrier Wall. The other course would be to allow some or all to remain...but they count against the immigration quotas from their countries. No further immigration from those countries until the illegals have been worked off.

Illegals convicted of crimes, or consuming welfares, will be deported instantly, of course. Put them on ships, sail to the port farthest from the United States, then request docking permission. If permission is granted, dock and land the repatriated illegals. If not....over the side in international waters, with directions to the homeland that wanted to see them drown.


You keep saying "illegals" like that's the problem. Have you had a look lately at our legal immigration policy?

Anonymous Soga July 27, 2015 4:41 PM  

@117, make that a graphic meme!

Someone make that! A meme depicting a Republican (like a Holocaust Jew but with a Republican elephant icon instead of a Star of David) shoveling other Republicans into an oven, especially as they scream "CUCKSERVATIVE!". Too perfect of a shiv.

Anonymous Soga July 27, 2015 4:44 PM  

TrevorG, you must be new here. Vox has admitted he was wrong in the past.

Anonymous kfg July 27, 2015 4:51 PM  

I take offence at the insinuation that I am a sock puppet. I am the work of an old world craftsman, a piece of functional art, and someday I hope to be a real boy.

"So what do you call someone who sticks his finger up into the wind and moves to the position with the least likely conflict with anyone no matter what his real conviction (if any) may be?"

A dandelion.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 27, 2015 4:51 PM  

When the Obama sovereign debt bubble bursts it is going to be a whole different ball game, we won't be playing Magic Borders Blank Slate Theory game anymore we will be playing a game of wealth transfer.

Anonymous Who are cuckservatives? July 27, 2015 5:00 PM  

this is not left vs right, GOP vs Dems, Socialism vs liberty. This is war on White people.

Why do hostile elite defend Israel as a Jewish ethnostate with Jewish only immigration, but ravage White majority Europe/North America into a multi-ethnic, multi-cultural Gulag with non-White colonization?

The world is 91% non-White, only 9% White. But non-White colonizers are aggressively advancing their agenda to annihilate gullible Whites, just as Chinese annihilate Tibet.

How long will gullible Whites cuckold for murderous anti-White elite, who suppress our fertility, confiscate our guns, infiltrate/subvert our banks/FBI/CIA, indoctrinate White kids in academia/mass media, plunder White jobs/wages, & butcher White soldiers in bankrupting wars?

"Native" Americans invaded from East Asia. Yellow & Brown races committed 10-times more genocide, slavery, imperialism than Whites. Since Moses, Whites have been victims of Jewish/Crypto-Jewish, Muslim, N.African imperialism, slavery, genocide.

Gullible Whites should reject subversive ideologies- libertarianism, feminism, liberalism- & hostile slanders of racism. Peace to all humanity, but White people must organize to advance their interests, their fertility, their homelands. Spread this message. Reading list: goo.gl/iB777 , goo.gl/htyeq , amazon.com/dp/0759672229 , amazon.com/dp/1410792617

Blogger Cail Corishev July 27, 2015 5:01 PM  

You keep saying "illegals" like that's the problem.

It's part of the problem, and you have to start somewhere. Might as well start with the easy stuff. There's already plenty of public sentiment against illegals, so that if either party wanted to deal with it (instead of the two parties working together to maintain it) it would be an easy winning issue. We know how to do it: border control, serious punishment for violators (including employers), and swift deportations. It's not complicated.

Once that's well underway and we've gotten people thinking in terms of "Whom should we let in?" rather than "It would be unbearably cruel to keep anyone out," then we can start introducing them to scarier ideas like, "You know, is there any reason that a baby who happens to be born in America while his parents are visiting should be a citizen? If you have a baby while you're visiting Paris, would you think he should get French citizenship?" Or: "Are people who go back to visit their home countries now and then really refugees?"

Anonymous Roundtine July 27, 2015 5:04 PM  

Is the media's "Trump will kill the GOP" meme an inversion of the truth?

No. It's the truth. The media is happy because they have very high time preference and even if they had a lower time preference, they probably still wouldn't understand the implications. They can't think past the current election.

Anonymous Suindara July 27, 2015 5:12 PM  

Cuckservatives and cucktians should learn from Hillel, "If I am not for myself, who will be for me? If not now, when?"

How can they expect Blacks, Hispanics and Muslims will "conserve" Western civilization when westerners themselves don't defend it?

If the people of the West won't defend their culture the message they send is that their culture is not worth defending. This is the message the Pope sends when he bowls down before the feet of Islam.

Blogger Corvinus July 27, 2015 5:12 PM  

@124

Yeah, it keeps it simple if you think of cuckservatives as those who harm white European survival.

In SJWEden, Fredrik Reinfeldt, who recently got his ass handed to him in the last election, was a great example of a cuckservative.

Anonymous Orville July 27, 2015 5:17 PM  

What happens if one country forcibly repatriates someone?

Use the Latin American approach a la Argentina. Load them into a bunch of C-130's without parachutes and then fly over Mexico and repatriate them with the motherland.

Blogger Salt July 27, 2015 5:19 PM  

There's already plenty of public sentiment against illegals

Damn good reason too.

Illegal Immigrants Outnumber Unemployed Americans

In 2014, there were 1.7 million more illegal immigrants living in the United States than there were unemployed Americans. According to the BLS, the average number of unemployed Americans in 2014 was 9.6 million. The BLS defines an unemployed individual as someone who did not have a job but actively sought one in the past four weeks.


Anonymous JustCuckservativeThings July 27, 2015 5:23 PM  

You racist sockpuppets do not stop, do you?

Anonymous Sheila July 27, 2015 5:31 PM  

Vox, thank you for continuing to cover this issue. Obviously all the squealing reveals the targets really don't like their true preferences being revealed. The vast majority of the commentariat at any but alt-right websites are also cucks, and similarly insist on their color-blind obeisance to the constitution.

One thing that even the ilk here seem to focus on is deportation or stopping immigration (all, not just illegal, of course). Given that the next generation of "Americans" is already in school and is majority non-White, why would any legislation (deportation, immigration moratorium, etc.) make any difference? Unless and until people start talking about forced repatriation of millions of adults (and their families) who were, themselves, anchor babies, none of it matters. Please don't misunderstand; I'm not counseling despair or inaction, just wondering your opinion re this issue. Does one go back to those legalized under Reagan to begin those deportations? Earlier a la Chris Mallory (anyone not descended from Anglo-Saxon Whites)? I'd truly appreciate hearing your take on this obviously theoretical question.

Anonymous FP July 27, 2015 5:44 PM  

Good ol HotGas ... this is partly just Ed Morrissey and Allahpundit looking for clickbait to get readers on their site. There has been lots and lots of push back against establishment types on HA for months now since Nov 2014. Six plus pages of clickbait for them. Sure beats the 100 or less they get for their boilerplate Conservatism Inc. posts.

Blogger Rabbi B July 27, 2015 5:45 PM  

"Damn good reason too."

Skimmed the comments, so this may have already been referenced:

Blue Virginia

Anonymous Takin' a look July 27, 2015 5:51 PM  

11.3 million illegals?

I call bullshit, that number has been bandied about for 30 years. I travel for work all over this land and towns that were majority white just ten years ago are now barrios or mogandishu banilues. I'm talking isolated flyover country too.

The real number is probably north of 60 million, possibly 100 million.

Anonymous Donn #0114 July 27, 2015 5:57 PM  

Talkin' a look @133

The official numbers are lies and nobody is supposed to really collect them any way. My town has an official pop of 3,200. The various law enforcement groups that do collect an unofficial number add another 3,000 to 3,500 illegals. Most live in trailers. That's up from 1,500 just twelve or so years ago.

Anonymous Takin' a look July 27, 2015 6:17 PM  

I know Donn. Thank you

-Salt, wasn't denigrating you.

Blogger YIH July 27, 2015 6:22 PM  

@132 Rabbi B:
Blue Florida too.
Rubio got lucky, but his luck won't hold.

Anonymous Jonathan July 27, 2015 6:37 PM  

Takin' a Look @133

I spent some time in Iowa a few weeks ago and the number of Hispanics there amazed me. I took the same trip about 15 years ago and it was rare to see a non-white.

Anonymous Huckleberry July 27, 2015 6:42 PM  

I spent some time in Iowa a few weeks ago and the number of Hispanics there amazed me

Well the government is paying good money to spread 'em around, so that every corner can enjoy front-row seats to the reconquista.

Anonymous Donn #0114 July 27, 2015 6:45 PM  

There were fifty or so in my town 20 some years ago.

Blogger The Deuce July 27, 2015 7:15 PM  

The funny thing is, conservatives would probably get more minority voters (though still a tiny percentage) if they stopped trying to pander to them. Nobody likes suckups, Nobody respects them. And most of all, nobody is ever persuaded by them. People adopt conservative principles because they become persuaded they are true, not because a conservative kissed their ass. When you pander to someone, you're advertising that you don't really believe in your principles yourself, so why on earth should they?

Anonymous Sorofina July 27, 2015 7:15 PM  

Hispanics: hard working, Christian, very family oriented. Let's deal with real problems.

Blogger The Deuce July 27, 2015 7:21 PM  

If by "very family oriented" you mean "very pro-abortion with very high divorce rates" then yes.

Anonymous JustCuckservativeThings July 27, 2015 7:27 PM  

Let's deal with real problems.

Blogger bw July 27, 2015 7:27 PM  

How dishonest and self deluded (liars) are Cuckservatives??
Blacks are the 2nd most Racist peeps in your Country.

Blogger bw July 27, 2015 7:29 PM  

Hispanics: hard working, Christian, very family oriented. Let's deal with real problems.

And the founders of the U.S.
Cuckservative bullshit. Mexico and Guatemala for the Mexicans and Guatemalans....What's wrong with your countries and Why???

Blogger Cail Corishev July 27, 2015 7:33 PM  

Hispanics: hard working, Christian, very family oriented.

They sound like the kind of people who would create great countries to live in.

Where do you live?

Blogger bw July 27, 2015 7:34 PM  

Damn good reason too.

Illegal Immigrants Outnumber Unemployed Americans
Salt

Culturally Christian and Home Team (read: Isolationist) Democrat voters and their Unions used to be against both Immigration and females entering the workplace (harmed male workers and pay).
It's f*cking over.
Small cells of culture is the future.

Anonymous Godfrey July 27, 2015 7:39 PM  

The Republican Party has capitulated on every issue. What does it stand for?

... war.... I guess it now stands for war, invasion, torture, police state, and bombs. That's ALL it stands for now. It stands for nothing else.

Anonymous Donn #0114 July 27, 2015 7:40 PM  

Sorofina the illegals I've dealt with were uniformly dangerous, criminal, machete oriented, when not ten year old girl oriented. And what the fuck is the age of consent in Guatemala? They act like anything past middle school is marriage age.

Blogger Joel #0164 July 27, 2015 7:43 PM  

@141 "Hispanics: hard working, Christian, very family oriented. Let's deal with real problems."

Stuff Cuckservatives Say.

Anonymous Sorofina July 27, 2015 7:43 PM  

BW...my country is just fine, with its Anglos, Hispanics, blacks, Christians, Jews, etc.

Blogger Karl July 27, 2015 7:45 PM  

With apologies to Bryan Highland: (original at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICkWjdQuK7Q)


They were afraid to come out of the cloakroom
They were nervous as they could be
They were afraid to come out of the warren
They were afraid at what we would see

One, two, three, four tell the public why you're so sore

It was an itsy, bitsy, teenie-peenie cuckolded conserva-weenie
That got pwned by a hashtag today
An itsy, bitsy, teenie-peenie cuckolded conserva-weenie
So with the losers they wanted to stay

Anonymous Sorofina July 27, 2015 7:46 PM  

Donn,
The Hispanics I've dealt with have been universally kind, family oriented, protective of children and honest. Including illegals.

Anonymous rubberducky July 27, 2015 7:50 PM  

Rabbi @132

I'm a Virginian. My family has been here since colonial days. One of my ancestors, William Ramsay, was among the trio of Scottish merchants who founded Alexandria, VA back in 1749. The changes we've seen in the past thirty years are simply staggering. It began in the 1980's, when refugees from the civil war in El Salvador began to flow here in droves.That war is long over, but by now, twenty percent of that country has exported itself here.

But they're coming here from all over. The town where I live has become a Koreatown. It's not possible to go through town and know what the business are, I mean know what they do if it's not something obvious like a restaurant, because all the signs are in Korean. But there's also a very large contingent of Bolivians in this town, too.

And droves of Mexicans, El Salvadoreans, Guatemalans, and Costa Ricans. We're choked in day laborers loitering on a few key corners Monday through Saturday, and on Sunday they're dispersed loitering around all the street corners just hanging out it seems. There's a creek near my house that they'll go down and bathe in, so I occasionally will find a naked Mexican when I go for a walk.

My wife was unemployed a while back, and thought she'd check out the job posting for the local government. They had nothing for her because every single posting we found required bi-lingual skills. She was born and raised in this county, got married here and had two children here. It wants to hire immigrants, not her.

We went to a high school graduation this spring. The school had one solid week of full rehearsals for it, one rehearsal ceremony per day, which amazed me. We didn't have a single one when I was graduating, how hard could it be? Just walk across the stage when they call your name, etc. But the rehearsal wasn't for the kids. It was for the school officials, struggling to get all the names straight.

Out of the graduating class of 400 or so, maybe 50 were white, maybe 10 were American blacks (but 20 or so African blacks).

Twenty years ago this was a sleepy little American town that actually elected Republicans. No more. It's Third World or Bust around here these days.

Blogger David-093 July 27, 2015 7:58 PM  

"Donn,
The Hispanics I've dealt with have been universally kind, family oriented, protective of children and honest. Including illegals."

That's nice, they can go be kind, family oriented, protective of children, and honest back in their home countries.

Blogger Joshua Dyal July 27, 2015 8:00 PM  

The Hispanics I've dealt with have been universally kind, family oriented, protective of children and honest. Including illegals.

I guess all of the statistics are wrong if they contradict your experience with at most a couple dozen or so Hispanics!

Anonymous Donn #0114 July 27, 2015 8:00 PM  

Sorofina - you know what my real problems are? An armed illegal attacking my pregnant daughter as he tried to get to the children at a toddler's birthday party (I guess that was hard working. He worked really hard to get past her to the kids). The police didn't charge him because 'he'll be deported anyway'. An illegal who murdered another who was again simply deported, the other illegal who murdered his daughter's mother and left the girl covered in her mother's blood (I guess you could call that 'family' oriented). Another illegal who murdered a grandfather. A mob of machete wielding illegals chasing another down the street.

The kicker? The illegal that assaulted my daughter is back in town. For all I know the deported murder is here too.

Anonymous Shutup, Tad July 27, 2015 8:04 PM  

@151 Sorofina

BW...my country is just fine............

Tad.

Shutup already.

Dick Hat.

Anonymous Mike M. July 27, 2015 8:05 PM  

Joshua @118
Yeh, I'm aware the legal immigration is also a problem. It's why I favor a limit of ~200,000 immigrants/year...no more than 10,000 from any one country.

But it's the illegals we can justly and readily ship home.

Anonymous Donn #0114 July 27, 2015 8:17 PM  

Funniest thing my town of 3200 has a murder rate 800% above the national average. Our theft rate isn't that high most people just quit reporting property crimes. Few are solved. I don't have a neighbor who hasn't had stuff stolen. Rapes go way underreported. Lots of gang rapes. Again really, really family oriented. Protective of children? Maybe that's why I had to walk my ten year old daughter to the store to prevent them from stalking her.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 27, 2015 8:18 PM  

Nice to see Tad trying out some new monikers now that she's bravely transitioned. I like Sorofina better than kendRA; sounds sort of European and less like a robot-girl name.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar July 27, 2015 8:20 PM  

Guess what? Trump just left the race and endorsed Scamnesty! No shit! For Real!
A lot sooner than I thought. I thought he would get the hopes of the sheeple up and string them along for a while longer.
Maybe the Government has a trick up its sleeve to save itself? Nah, its probably just a whore left over from last night.
All you Mexicans better load up your low-riders and go home now. Its about to get real...

Anonymous Poli_Mis July 27, 2015 8:20 PM  

I used to spend my summers in Northern Virginia during the 1980s. That last post really depressed me.

Anonymous Donn #0114 July 27, 2015 8:23 PM  

Oh shoot sorry didn't recognize Tad

Anonymous kfg July 27, 2015 8:33 PM  

"They act like anything past middle school is marriage age."

They are traditional Catholics. 12 is the traditional age of marriage in Christendom, including Jolly Olde.

Anonymous Donn #0114 July 27, 2015 8:37 PM  

I can't find anything new on Trump.

Anonymous Fredo July 27, 2015 8:47 PM  

Donn,
That's a terrible experience. You know what bothers me? The legal citizen that walks into a theater and kills people. The legal guy that walks into a church and kills people. The legal guy that bomb a building and kills hundreds. The legal guy that walks into a school and kills kids.

All white, legal guys. What do we do about them?

Anonymous Laz July 27, 2015 8:50 PM  

@ 32. joyce: "People in the hood want jobs, security, low crime, etc "

LMAO! Spoken like someone who has never gone a day without. I've had to live in the hood before and most people in the hood only want to find a high for the day and get their dick wet.

Anonymous kfg July 27, 2015 8:53 PM  

"All white, legal guys. What do we do about them?"

I don't know, maybe . . . uphold the law?

Anonymous Laz July 27, 2015 8:54 PM  

@ 48. Jack Ward: "Everytime I see the term 'cuckservatives' my mind tries to translate it into 'cluckservatives; as in chickens."

Having a dirty mind, I see "cockservatives". Still works though.

Anonymous Laz July 27, 2015 9:00 PM  

"The Hispanics I've dealt with have been universally kind, family oriented, protective of children and honest. Including illegals."

Yeah, so family oriented that they sleep with their daughters and nieces. So family oriented that they don't mind murderers and rapists living in the next bedroom.

What a maroon!

Blogger Harsh July 27, 2015 9:01 PM  

All white, legal guys. What do we do about them?

Let them build and run the country as usual?

Anonymous Fredo July 27, 2015 9:01 PM  

Oh huh, kfg, that is what we should do. But we need to beware of the White legal guys. They are obviously dangerous and will kill randomly. They are destroying the country. How many times do we have to witness the white legal guy kill before we learn our lesson?

Blogger YIH July 27, 2015 9:03 PM  

@162 Joshua Sinistar:
Guess what? Trump just left the race and endorsed Scamnesty! No shit! For Real!
Actually he's still in the running for 'vanity plate 1', but I realized how transparent he was.
On July 23, he told CNN that he would not actually build a wall the entire length of the border with Mexico. “In certain sections, you have to have a wall,” he said
Yep, he's walking that one back too. Read about what Trump did to the USFL and ask yourself, ''Is that what he's going to do to immigration restriction?''

Anonymous BGS July 27, 2015 9:06 PM  

I was in Iowa during the 90s even their biggest cities where safe.

The Hispanics I've dealt with have been universally kind, family oriented, protective of children and honest

Name a Hispanic country other than Spain that you would want to live in & become a citizen in? Those nations are full of Hispanics so lets see their "Culture". Even moslem men take care of their own kids, 13yo blond girls on the other hand. Have you ever meet a Puerto rican? But for the most part I meet the illegal alien drunk drivers in ERs, but in my defense a lot of Mexicans drive drunk in mexico when they are not watching a Burro Show. I have seen Mexico has the same litter corruption and rule by drug dealers when I lived in TX.

It was an itsy, bitsy, teenie-peenie cuckolded conserva-weenie. That got pwned by a hashtag today.

Milo posted a naked pick of Russell Brand he almost has an innie for a peenie.

ten year old girl oriented. And what the fuck is the age of consent in Guatemala? They act like anything past middle school is marriage age

Funny you should ask. "
-- CNN reports that 318 10-year-old girls gave birth in Mexico in 2011.
In all of Western Europe, the United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand combined, there have been eight reported births to girls aged 10 or younger. Seven of the eight involved Third World immigrants. "

What happens if one country forcibly repatriates someone? One of the hard lessons of history is Pinochet might have been right

Anonymous Donn #0114 July 27, 2015 9:06 PM  

Frida? Did these things happen to you or your immediate family? Did they happen in your hometown? Did you know those people who were killed? Did you here the gunshot that killed your friend? If not shut the fuck up. I knew all of those killed except for one illegal.

Blogger David-093 July 27, 2015 9:08 PM  

"All white, legal guys. What do we do about them?"

Not let in more immigrants that contribute to the problem, for starters.

Blogger Harsh July 27, 2015 9:09 PM  

But we need to beware of the White legal guys. They are obviously dangerous and will kill randomly.

One question, Fredo: would you rather walk around at midnight in an all-white neighborhood or an all-black one?

Blogger David-093 July 27, 2015 9:11 PM  

Oh, and I forgot...

Shut up Tad.

Blogger YIH July 27, 2015 9:30 PM  

Someone made this just for you Tad.

Anonymous Takin' a look July 27, 2015 9:35 PM  

Only for the nobility and royalty and "merchants". In the Hajnal line, 25 was traditional.

Blogger dc.sunsets July 27, 2015 9:37 PM  

Having a dirty mind, I see "cockservatives". Still works though.

Using Lewinski-brand (tm) kneepads, serving only PoC.

Anonymous Rick Johnsmeyer July 27, 2015 9:39 PM  

I remember thinking at the time that Rand Paul's sojourns to Howard and other black venues were out-of-sync with the times. It's like he stepped off a time-machine from an older America where whites were utterly dominant and the kindly Christian thing to do was extend some noblesse-oblige to the benighted minorities.

This is 1960's psychology, and it still seems to be the prevailing mental default of a lot of Boomer-aged cuckservacucks. "Well, we're secure in our lives and finances, so why not toss some crumbs to these other groups? It'll make them happy! We'll all have a gay old time together in ye olde America!"

Younger conservatives are rightfully disgusted by these attitudes. Those who went to average-or-poorer public schools often got a full blast of America's growing vibrancy, coupled with incessant race-related propaganda, and came out either SJW-tarded or viciously cynical about the whole enterprise.

Cuckservatives don't seem to care or understand that America has profound and widening domestic fissures. They behave as though they have the luxury of wasting time on "Stop Iran" rallies and other diversions that only make sense when the homefront is quelled.

The conservacuck media was recently aflutter over Ted Cruz launching a broadside against... the export-import bank? Does a single person under the age of 50 care about that?

These are not serious individuals. They are rightfully being called out and insulted for their uselessness.

Blogger SciVo July 27, 2015 9:52 PM  

@ Feather Blade: "Weather-vanes or wind-socks, I would think."

Weather-cuck.

Blogger Groot July 27, 2015 9:54 PM  

@43. Alexander:
The line is:
"I am sorry, Madam, but you appear to have mistaken us for Republicans."
From The Tale of the Herald, A Parable by Cataline Sergius

Blogger Joshua Dyal July 27, 2015 9:59 PM  

You know what bothers me? The legal citizen that walks into a theater and kills people. The legal guy that walks into a church and kills people. The legal guy that bomb a building and kills hundreds. The legal guy that walks into a school and kills kids.

All white, legal guys. What do we do about them?


So you're bothered by three people in America? Get a life. I'm bothered by at least 30 million.

Anonymous kfg July 27, 2015 9:59 PM  

Fredo, that whooshing sound that went over your head? Don't worry about it, man. It isn't anything that'll bother you.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar July 27, 2015 10:01 PM  

Now that Trump has dumped his only reason for popularity, I imagine fakes like Walker and Cruz will try to pretend they care without actually saying anything. That's the MO of these fake conservatives who dine in style at Adelson's Chicken Ranch. All these chickens started there and will do whatever they can to cloak the sell-out they do to try to keep this shill game going.
I don't think its gonna work anymore. People are pretty cynical, and now that Trump has nothing left, Democracy is limping back to the boneyard where it belongs.

Anonymous Alexander July 27, 2015 10:14 PM  

@186.

Thanks. There's simply too much talent here in Ilkland to remember who coined what.

Blogger Josh July 27, 2015 10:20 PM  

Actually, many of the Founding Fathers were cuckservatives, such as Thomas Jefferson and his quotes about Muslims.

And cuckservative has jumped the shark...

Blogger Nate July 27, 2015 10:23 PM  

"Actually, many of the Founding Fathers were cuckservatives, such as Thomas Jefferson and his quotes about Muslims."

and just like that... an otherwise useful rhetorical device... is rendered useless.

Way to go.

Blogger Josh July 27, 2015 10:46 PM  

Well see...the white nationalist retards are conflicted about Jefferson. On the one hand he enslaved blacks, which they probably like, but on the other hand he slept with his female slaves, which they probably don't like because miscegenation.

Blogger Danby July 27, 2015 10:52 PM  

Anyone who thinks Jefferson was positive toward Islam is either the victim of selective-quote disease or a lying fool. he published the Q'ran in English specifically to make the West aware of how anti-human Islam is. And that from a slave-holder.

Anonymous zen0 July 27, 2015 10:54 PM  

"Actually, many of the Founding Fathers were cuckservatives, such as Thomas Jefferson and his quotes about Muslims."

Silly dudes: ask for the actual quote. There is none. Fuck, I am a Canadian and I know this up front.You guys got the guns. Don't make me wobbly here.

Blogger Corvinus July 27, 2015 10:59 PM  

I think you have to compare Jefferson before and after the Barbary pirates started causing trouble. Beforehand, he was very favorable to the idea of letting Muslims and Jews be U.S. citizens.

Blogger bob k. mando July 27, 2015 11:02 PM  

90. Corvinus July 27, 2015 3:18 PM
Actually, many of the Founding Fathers were cuckservatives, such as Thomas Jefferson and his quotes about Muslims.



you mean the Jefferson who advocated against paying tribute and who subsequently fought a war against them to end their raiding and slaving of American ships?

maybe you'd better link some of these quotes so i've got a better idear of what you're talking about.

Blogger Corvinus July 27, 2015 11:05 PM  

@195

Link

Blogger Karl July 27, 2015 11:27 PM  

Now the media is going after Trump's lawyer for discussing marital rape. This hashtag really delivers.

Libertarian Peter Suderman (who is in a childless 5 year marriage with Megan McArdle) is approvingly linking a Daily Beast story about how Ivana Trump once claimed Donald Trump raped her while they were married. The accusation came during their divorce case. (https://twitter.com/petersuderman/status/625857640069992448)

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/27/ex-wife-donald-trump-made-feel-violated-during-sex.html

"Ivana Trump once accused the real estate tycoon of ‘rape,’ although she later clarified: not in the ‘criminal sense.’"

Blogger James Dixon July 27, 2015 11:30 PM  

> Fredo

Shut up, Tad.

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