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Sunday, August 09, 2015

A hero for men



You may not like Roosh. You may not approve of him. You may not agree with him about much. But the next time you bite your tongue because you are afraid of saying something that a woman or an SJW might look at you funny for saying, or refrain from saying what you think out of fear that someone might confront you or call you a name, remember that this is a man who was denounced, falsely accused, publicly unwelcomed by the mayor of Montreal, protested, and physically attacked, and he still stood up and spoke out in public concerning his beliefs about the interests of men.

Before you dismiss Roosh for one reason or another, ask yourself 'what am I doing? Why are the thought police not objecting to my presence? Why are the SJWs not seeking to silence and disqualify and discredit me?'

Roosh is so dangerous to the SJW cause, and is so effective in exploding their attempts to control the very thoughts and behavior of men, that the SJWs actually tried to play the "we'll totally be your friend if only you'll distance yourself from him and denounce him" game with me!

That should be sufficient to convince anyone who supports freedom of speech and freedom of thought to stand up for the man, regardless of any reservations you might have about pickup artistry or neomasculinity. After all, he's standing up for you.

Heroes are seldom the fine upstanding well-respected individuals we wish them to be. Such people are usually too concerned with going along with the crowd and winning the good opinion of the world to speak the truth when the truth is despised. But when a man speaks the truth despite being condemned for it, he is more truly walking in the footsteps of Jesus Christ than many a decent, church-going Christian man.

We are better than them. We are smarter than them. We are more fearless than them. But more importantly, we are on the side of the truth. They have nothing to offer but lies.

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Anonymous Lazybug August 09, 2015 4:15 AM  

One thing I learned from GG is this, we the sane are the majority, there is no reason to fear the rabbits and many reasons to close ranks against them, we can go back to bickering amongst our selves after they are defeated.

Blogger Bateful Higot August 09, 2015 4:25 AM  

Standing up against them can be very difficult to do, depending on your station in life, but it is always possible. Every time someone contradicts the narrative it weakens, even if it's only a chip. Rather amusing that they tried to divide you. True Shitlords always stick together.

Anonymous Giuseppe August 09, 2015 4:36 AM  

I've not had time, but I promised him I would update my post on him, and i will. Whatever my negative views of certain aspects of PUAs, (mostly to do with their being little bitches) his actions here speak very loud and he needs to be supported. He has evolved from "this is what you need to do to bang girls" to "I will say whatever the fuck I want", and while I am "meh" on the former, I am very much "yes" on the latter.

Anonymous Giuseppe August 09, 2015 4:43 AM  

Also, your last sentence is spot on. And much more central and relevant than perhaps most people realise. It clarifies the issue so crisply and efficiently without dumbing down at all. Bravo.

Blogger ScuzzaMan August 09, 2015 4:45 AM  

Dont know him so cant say I like him, altho I suspect I would.

But I definitely admire his courage and fortitude.

Blogger Salt August 09, 2015 4:48 AM  

To BIG to fail. That's spot on. Way to go, Roosh.

Blogger pdwalker August 09, 2015 4:56 AM  

He's growing up and maturing nicely.

Anonymous jSinSaTx August 09, 2015 5:09 AM  

The recent nitpicking from Rollo on Roosh has been rather pathetic. Then made a bit more amusing by Rollo doing Vegas.

Anonymous grey enlightenment August 09, 2015 5:20 AM  

Canada in a recession. how's that liberalism working out?

Blogger JAY WILL August 09, 2015 5:31 AM  

The forums core is non-whites, who have grown up in white countries, and have "belonging" issues. Their forum regularly descends into race arguments. You talk about free speech, when it comes to race roosh shuts down on it.

Blogger VD August 09, 2015 5:57 AM  

You talk about free speech, when it comes to race roosh shuts down on it.

Yes, Jay, because he's not retarded. It is not a free speech issue when you prevent people from hijacking and watering down your message. Roosh does not attempt to stop people from speaking anywhere else but HIS OWN FORUM. He is preventing them from stealing his microphone, that is all.

As do I. You can read an entire 40-page report that mostly consists of SFWA trying to discredit me for things that other people said here. And that's why despite being a free speech advocate, I do not permit people to speak freely here on this blog. But, like Roosh and unlike the thought police, I do not attempt to prevent them from speaking freely anywhere else.

That's one of the problems of becoming a public figure. People are constantly attempting to hijack the platform you have built in their own interests, which often have nothing to do with yours. I get people offering to do guest posts here almost every single day now. And my answer is always the same: if you have something to say, then start your own blog.

At Alpha Game, Delta Man is someone I know and trust, whose message is largely in line with my own. So he gets posting privileges there, especially since he can address issues I cannot. Here, I have no need for additional content.

Blogger Kallmunz August 09, 2015 6:03 AM  

There is a hash tag #IStandWithRoosh right now, SJWs are visiting it making snarky comments, it would be good to see a lot more support.

Blogger JAY WILL August 09, 2015 6:06 AM  

Also, a libertarian free speech society can't exist when there is multi-race and multi-value systems going on. For example, you can't have mass Islamic immigration without bringing in Islamophobia laws. It goes hand in hand, Monty Python don't get to rip the piss into Mohammed without there being violence.

These huge complex societies don't have core identities, people don't feel like they belong. Atomized people, without fundamental human bonds. Roosh is that guy, he's in the wilderness looking for truth, he can't find it in white girl pussy it seems. I see that blog going more race based in the future, its partly hidden due to anonymity. But his forum right hand man regularly brings the banhammer down when whitey takes it a bit too far, including members who had posted for a long time.

Be interested to know the racial breakdown on here, nearly all white I'd guess.

I see what you mean about not agreeing with him but still seeing that he's defending free speech. But the free speech element is going to be completely drowned out by this cultural malaise we are in anyway, free speech has to go it can't exist in multi-group society. What it comes down to is building your group up strong, and shutting down the other groups. Can anyone have any doubt that Muslims will block vote for their own kind and laws? Whitey has no choice but to drown out all the cuck elements and build himself up. The greatest threat to the big boys right now is not Islam, its the rise of white nationalism. But its inevitable, look at comments sections everywhere. People are getting restless with their governments and globalism, WHITE people are getting restless.

Saw a picture, black and white, some kind of royal day in UK where the locals have street party, the street filled with tables in single file. Everyone is white, I guarantee you that people had greater bonds then than now, their values were more the same, they knew their neighbours more etc etc. Its all to pot, kept up by the most advanced techno civilization ever. But the masses are full to the brim with happy pills, and all sorts of psych problems. Its not going to work.

Globalism can only work if mono-culture, mono-race can be achieved. Good luck with that!

I think I worked out why I come on here, it's because I want teachers approval again. Shut up Jay your boring us again! Sorry!

Anonymous Stilicho August 09, 2015 6:16 AM  

@vox, hell, this is about as close to a free speech zone as you can find in th blogosphere. Alll you require is to be on topic and to provide direct answers to direct questions for the most part. Commenters are free to express opinions at will as long as they adhere to the procedural rules.

Anonymous AlteredFate #92 August 09, 2015 6:38 AM  

Vincit omnia veritas

Blogger VD August 09, 2015 6:41 AM  

@vox, hell, this is about as close to a free speech zone as you can find in th blogosphere.

That may well be true. But I don't pretend that it is a true free speech zone because I do ban trolls, I do prevent people from hijacking the discourse, and I do pressure certain people to at least limit their expression.

Blogger Jew613 August 09, 2015 6:49 AM  

By trying to stop Roosh and failing the SJWs looked like impotent fools. If they had simply ignored the speech only a fraction of the men would have been exposed to Roosh's message.

VFM #0322

Anonymous The Obvious August 09, 2015 6:59 AM  

The forums core is non-whites, who have grown up in white countries, and have "belonging" issues. Their forum regularly descends into race arguments.

I have some background links on that, MPC Forums link might be NSFW, not sure.

How it happened:
MPC Forums Too Redpill for Redpill

Some commentary:
72 Hours of MPC PUA and NRX

The satricial result:
Return Of Cucks Twitter

Blogger Student in Blue August 09, 2015 7:09 AM  

"But he's not completely sinless! You must shun him because he is not perfect! He says un-Christian things! Don't listen to him!"
-said by people who are not perfect, who are not sinless, say un-Christian things, and yet want you to listen to them.

Blogger Matamoros August 09, 2015 7:19 AM  

All SJWs lie. In this regard, "Paul Weston Asks: Are You a White-hating, Left-wing Racist?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=65&v=S7lCVQIl1vc

Blogger Markku August 09, 2015 7:23 AM  

I may not have the courage to attack the left because they might attack me in return, but by golly, I can at least improve things by removing that horrible, horrible speck from the eye of one of my own, thereby increasing our collective firepower and being just as useful. THEN let's you and him fight, but better than before.

Brave, of course, yes?

Blogger Mark Citadel August 09, 2015 7:23 AM  

Bravo! I can just imagine the creeps scouring the city, so disappointed when they couldn't find it and had to go back to drinking bong water and writing angsty poetry.

Blogger VD August 09, 2015 7:47 AM  

Brave, of course, yes?

So brave. Thank you for this.

Blogger Salt August 09, 2015 8:04 AM  

Roosh has a public platform; he built it. Most anti-SJWs have none so it's of no value for the (cis)feminists to attack. Think of the Hugos. Most DreadIlk are unknown, but we are numbers in support; the army of rabid puppies. We are not Vox, Larry, Brad, Kate... but we are numbered, and many numberless... we are Legion.

Who were those people, the army in support, cheering for Roosh? Doesn't matter.

Anonymous Cuckservative August 09, 2015 8:21 AM  

But, but, but Roosh fucks sluts.

Blogger Nate August 09, 2015 8:25 AM  

"God bless everyone"

excellent.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 09, 2015 8:29 AM  

White Nats are stuck in 1960 when Rockwell penned "White Power." They are left with little tactical dexterity, minimal operational art and absolutely nothing resembling strategy.

So when a Roosh comes along and wants to knock out one of the legs on the Cultural Marxist stool, they revert back to fail mode and go after Roosh because per usual on the Right 100% agreement or no agreement.

Blogger Doom August 09, 2015 8:39 AM  

To an extent, the idea of a hero for men is... repugnant. No, just hear me out. When a man calls another man his hero I am forced to turn away. It just isn't the way to say things. Call him a... leader, a guide, maybe if your are latte or wine drinking, with a dainty pinky out... but not queer, then maybe call him a guru. Don't call him a hero. Unless he dies for the cause. Just... all I am saying about that one part of it.

As for Roosh, I mostly know of him from the sideways notion others present. While I disagree with the notion of PUA's on two fronts, the idea behind it is sound. And, in a secular world, secular tools are fair to be employed. Most churches, and most in any church it seems, are secular. So be it. Basically, it is better for a man to sin and have a wife and two women lovers than to have one wife, but have her be above him. Lesser and greater sins, and Roosh, from what I have heard, is on the righter side of sin.

Even if I have come to faith, I realize faith has failed me. In the far past, medium history, and recently. It seems to fail and work on fail. I have to keep myself clean of much of it, a feminized institution since deciding that a single wife was a truth, despite having no good reason for it, save secular governance.

Anyway... Roosh, for a seeming secular, is alright in my book. He has done far more good than harm. Perhaps, just maybe, if we can towel off enough of the wet-behind-the-ear metrosexuals, and weaponize them into proper lady killers, we will be here as a nation when history checks to see who won. Further, weaponized penises are what will bring feminism down, perhaps bring the church, but even maybe politics and civility, back into line... or better line... with God's will. Roosh would be welcome at my table, booth, or home at any time. Any problems for such I would take on my check, and deal with, harshly.

I'd rather have a discussion with a real man than a queer worldly puppet pope or "president" any day. *grumbles*

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 09, 2015 8:44 AM  

Denninger is waking up to the SJW he writes today about something called GitHub that has fallen to the SJW scolds.

Blogger Nate August 09, 2015 8:46 AM  

also...

is Roosh drinking chardonnay?

...

Anonymous NorthernHamlet August 09, 2015 9:16 AM  

In the past year, he's grown up a bit, and I respect that, but he still comes of as sleazy. I can live with that all-in-all, but I bristle at the thought of someone else fighting for me.

Nate, are you a wine drinker?

Blogger hank.jim August 09, 2015 9:23 AM  

" But when a man speaks the truth despite being condemned for it, he is more truly walking in the footsteps of Jesus Christ than many a decent, church-going Christian man."

Roosh's efforts is likely praiseworthy, but that sentence gets a "whatever". Hurts more than helps his cause.

Blogger VD August 09, 2015 9:33 AM  

Roosh's efforts is likely praiseworthy, but that sentence gets a "whatever". Hurts more than helps his cause.

Only in the eyes of those who can't do the demographic math.

Anonymous zbignu August 09, 2015 9:47 AM  

That's not Chardonnay, it's the tears of SJWs. Or possibly a delightful Pinot Grigio

Blogger Nate August 09, 2015 9:58 AM  

"Nate, are you a wine drinker? "

I very much am. I don't talk as much about it as I talk about the bourbon stuff but I have my wine problems like all other decent civilized people.

I'm deeply skeptical of an adult that doesn't drink wine.

Blogger Nate August 09, 2015 9:59 AM  

I don't see anything sleezy about him at all. The path he's taking is well worn... and the destination is obvious.

Blogger JWM August 09, 2015 10:09 AM  

I copied your next to last paragraph to quote on my FB page. Brilliant, succinct, and deadly accurate. Thank you, Vox.

JWM

Anonymous NorthernHamlet August 09, 2015 10:20 AM  

I don't see anything sleezy about him at all.

It's merely a vibe I get and nothing serious. I think he's out growing it. Consider it the difference between a hedonist that does short term manipulation for himself and a man that's realized the world is a nasty place but he has principle and faces that world of struggle. Less trust in the first. I don't have anything against it, but I'd guard my daughter from the first but hear him out on the second.

I very much am.

Preferences and recommendations? I've always been damn fond of a salt-dry chianti and a firm sangiovese myself.

Blogger Chris August 09, 2015 10:21 AM  

Keep fighting the rabbits. They bred so fast we may never be free of them. Just keep their numbers in check.

Blogger Lovekraft August 09, 2015 10:21 AM  

How brave these little spoiled children are. If they only knew what is heading their way.

Anonymous Elijah Rhodes August 09, 2015 10:41 AM  

To an extent, the idea of a hero for men is... repugnant.

That sounds like girly talk.

Blogger Nate August 09, 2015 10:48 AM  

"Preferences and recommendations? I've always been damn fond of a salt-dry chianti and a firm sangiovese myself."

I am deeply affectionate of aussie wines... Jacobs Creek shiraz... or... actually just about anything that says Jacobs Creek on it.

A rare indulgence is of mine is Riesling with a late breakfast. On our honeymoon these many years ago the resort served sweet wine with breakfast every morning... and while I'm not a sweet wine type person... I confess such a breakfast habit is very easy to develop.

one thing I dearly love to do is to explore local wine. its a tradition to find a local wine during each of our vacations and drink it... then bring a bottle or two home with us... so we can later enjoy the wine and remember the place. Another quirky habit is very un-wine snob of me... I love to try wine made with all kinds of different things... pear wine... blueberry wine... blackberry wine... anything.

Blogger VD August 09, 2015 10:52 AM  

To an extent, the idea of a hero for men is... repugnant.

Yes, Doom, we all know you are the only hero, the last remaining real man, the lonely, silent warrior who is fated to ever walk alone.

I'm curious. Do you ever get tired of staring at what I can only conclude is the most exquisitely beautiful belly-button in the history of the human race?

Blogger Nate August 09, 2015 11:05 AM  

"I'm curious. Do you ever get tired of staring at what I can only conclude is the most exquisitely beautiful belly-button in the history of the human race? "

I don't always laugh out loud at my laptop... but it when I do... it's often because Vox has insulted someone in an especially artful way.

Blogger David-093 August 09, 2015 11:09 AM  

@Nate

I've been reading your blog and comments for over a decade and never knew you liked wine that much. If you're ever in NC family's got a local beer and wine shop here that you might wanna check out.

Blogger Joshua_D August 09, 2015 11:12 AM  

David-093 August 09, 2015 11:09 AM

If you're ever in NC family's got a local beer and wine shop here that you might wanna check out.


I'm in NC. Where's your family's shop?

Anonymous Steve August 09, 2015 11:14 AM  

I like, approve of, and generally agree with Roosh.

So I agree, the man's a legend.

He's a smart and energetic guy. He could have chosen an easier life working for someone else as a well-paid salaryman, but he does his own thing, builds his own media and his own businesses, and puts himself out there.

Massive respect.

Blogger Joshua_D August 09, 2015 11:14 AM  

Nate August 09, 2015 8:25 AM

"God bless everyone"

excellent.


Second this.

Blogger Nate August 09, 2015 11:16 AM  

"I've been reading your blog and comments for over a decade and never knew you liked wine that much."

At one time there was a bunch of wine talk on my blog in the comment section. Spacebunny is a wine girl and she was always a regular commenter on the ATF posts. We'd end up talking wine a lot then... but... alas... its all gone now.

There are a couple wine posts on the blog though. Cork failure rants probably

Blogger Nate August 09, 2015 11:17 AM  

"If you're ever in NC family's got a local beer and wine shop here that you might wanna check out."

We're up in north georgia and east tennessee pretty often. What region of North Carolina are we talking about?

Blogger Josh August 09, 2015 11:29 AM  

The recent nitpicking from Rollo on Roosh has been rather pathetic. Then made a bit more amusing by Rollo doing Vegas.

Roosh blocked Rollo when Rollo criticized Roosh for his neo masculinity and anti evo psych posts.

Blogger Salt August 09, 2015 11:35 AM  

Cork failures. I hate that on a good bottle of red.

Anonymous NorthernHamlet August 09, 2015 11:37 AM  

Nate

I always remember Jacobs Creek, especially the shiraz, being a decent bottle, but it's been a long while since I've had it.

Myself, I can't do sweet really, but I can definitely see brunch being decent like that. Frankly, I like a seriously well-prepared Bloody Mary for those occasions (we're talking 5-star dining preparation here, nothing else need apply).

Fruit wines? I confess that I think it all tastes horrid. I've tried, but I can't get into it. Still waiting for something to surprise me.

Anonymous Hrw-500 August 09, 2015 11:45 AM  

Looks like some folks didn't liked Roush's victory from what I saw on this French blog at http://www.cliqueduplateau.com/2015/08/09/roosh-v-recoit-un-bel-accueil-a-montreal/

Blogger David-093 August 09, 2015 11:48 AM  

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Blogger David-093 August 09, 2015 11:50 AM  

@Nate and Joshua D

Central NC, near Fort Bragg.

Blogger Nate August 09, 2015 11:52 AM  

"Fruit wines? I confess that I think it all tastes horrid. I've tried, but I can't get into it. Still waiting for something to surprise me."

I've definately had a lot more bad than good. however there is a local place here that makes a blue berry wine... I'm fascinated by it. its like an extremely dark honey. sweet yes but more complex than that. just a lot going on... coffee.. honey... its confusing and wonderful.

Blogger Nate August 09, 2015 11:53 AM  

"Central NC, near Fort Bragg. "

I dare say that could be arranged then. next time I'm 'round those parts I'll look you up for more specifics.

Blogger Nate August 09, 2015 11:54 AM  

"Cork failures. I hate that on a good bottle of red. "

There is simply no reason for it in 2015. It drives me nuts. Put a screw on cap on the stuff. For crying out loud I'd rather get a good product with less ceremony

Blogger Salt August 09, 2015 11:57 AM  

Nate, screw caps have come a long way. They are better than cork now. Real trick is to evac the bottle, unless one drinks it all.

Blogger David-093 August 09, 2015 11:57 AM  

Sounds good. My moms one of the owners, so if you have any specific preferences let me know and I'll see if they got them or can order them.

Blogger Nate August 09, 2015 11:58 AM  

"Nate, screw caps have come a long way. They are better than cork now. Real trick is to evac the bottle, unless one drinks it all. "

hell... the real trick is to get it in a box... then it doesn't matter.

like it not... Boxes are the most effective way to store it and keep it.

oh but it lacks the ambiance! WHAA!!

Blogger Josh August 09, 2015 12:00 PM  

oh but it lacks the ambiance! WHAA!!

Easy solution: pour some into a carafe before serving.

Blogger Salt August 09, 2015 12:05 PM  

oh but it lacks the ambiance! WHAA!!

The Shiraz or Syrah I enjoy doesn't come in a box. Most box-o-wine gives me headaches. It's low rent. Reminds me, my ex father-in-law brought some Aristocrat rum. One drink, headache. Went to the store and got some Goslings Black Seal.

Anonymous Anonymous August 09, 2015 12:09 PM  

Nate if you like big dry Aussie reds try fleginheimer. Blend of petit verdot petit Shiraz and others.
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Blogger bob k. mando August 09, 2015 12:10 PM  

VD
Before you dismiss Roosh for one reason or another,



is this seriously a problem amongst the Ilk?

because i don't remember anybody really going out of their way to talk about Roosh, much less rag on him ... unless you're making posts telling us not to rag on him.

*shrugs*

maybe i'm just a technical Luddite who is missing all the fun on Twitter or something ...

JQP got himself banned for inability to stay on topic, he would have been going off on Roosh.

Loki and Sigyn would have been speaking against Roosh but they left voluntarily.

but their issues were with PUAs in general and they wouldn't have been slagging Roosh particularly on anything other than a topical basis.

otoh, your support of the RoK 'boycott Mad Max' post was in direct contravention of your own repeatedly stated position ( both before and after the boycott call ) that fiction should be judged on it's story merits, not it's message ...

SJWs may be damn stupid, but even they are unlikely to miss that opportunity to criticize you.

speaking of Max, the most interesting dichotomy in that universe is the thematic comparison of MM:FR to the original Max movie.

in original Max, Gibson spends much of the movie trying to protect his wife and son ... and being driven 'mad' when he fails and they are killed. and this makes him the hero.

in MM:FR, Immortan Joe ... spends the whole movie trying to recover and protect his children and wives. and this makes him the villain. whereas, Max spends the whole movie fighting against the father ... and this now makes him the 'hero'.

iow, the movies pivot on the Feminist Imperative.

THAT was the 'misandrist' message in MM:FR, not whatever psychobabble idiocy a couple of the incompetent, retard wives were spouting.

Blogger Rabbi B August 09, 2015 12:25 PM  

"We are better than them. We are smarter than them. We are more fearless than them. But more importantly, we are on the side of the truth. They have nothing to offer but lies."

Age old principles in play. Vox, Roosh, et al stand in the way of the endeavors of the lying SJWs not only by their very existence, but because of the repute and recognition that they [Vox, Roosh, et al] have enjoyed for their deeds and endeavors. So long as these valiant men among us continue to discharge their tasks and fulfill their duties while retaining their moral integrity, leaving no room in their minds for other thoughts, they will find strength and support.

I was reading Psalm 58 this morning and ran across this:

Psalm 58:3-5

The wicked are estranged from the womb; they go astray as soon as they are born, speaking lies. Their poison is like the poison of a serpent; they are like the deaf cobra that stops its ear, which will not heed the voice of charmers, charming ever so skillfully.

Insert SJW for wicked and the understanding is still preserved. Lack of honesty is one of the fundamental evils that corrupts any society. The SJW is rightly compared to a serpent which is compelled to bite because of its own instinctive, raging drive and urge to c inflict pain and cause harm. The conceit that characterizes the SJW leads him to believe that he surpasses everybody else in his wisdom, and so he is never receptive to instruction from the outset.

As the Psalm indicates, he is deafened by the dint of his own rage and raging passions, and deaf to any attempt to influence him to mend his lying, deceitful, and crooked ways.

The next verse speaks to the Vox Day's of the world:

"Then you be in G-d's place! Break their teeth in their mouths; to destroy the teeth of the lions is the work of the G-d of loving-kindness"

In this Psalm, David calls upon men who, because of their position in society, are qualified to wield their power and abilities to prevent evil when mere words are to no avail. This is what made David's mighty men mighty, and what makes a hero a hero. If the poison cannot be removed from the teeth of the "serpent," then the teeth must be broken in its mouth. To break the teeth of the "wicked," though it may seem like an act of destruction, is in truth an act of mercy at the end of the day, executed by a merciful G-d.

G-d and the Truth are the sole sources from which we will continue to derive our strength and our peace of mind, COME WHAT MAY. Any attempt to sway us from this will be in vain, which is precisely why:

"We are better than them. We are smarter than them. We are more fearless than them. But more importantly, we are on the side of the truth. They have nothing to offer but lies."

Often unsung, but heroes nonetheless.

Blogger Nate August 09, 2015 12:25 PM  

"is this seriously a problem amongst the Ilk?"

the whole game concept is boring beyond belief to some of us. Roosh's story has become increasingly interesting though.

Blogger Nate August 09, 2015 12:28 PM  

"To break the teeth of the "wicked," though it may seem like an act of destruction, is in truth an act of mercy at the end of the day, executed by a merciful G-d. "

Preach it sir

As always... the first to resort to violence is not necessarily the aggressor. The aggressor is the one who makes the violence necessary.

Blogger Corvinus August 09, 2015 12:39 PM  

White Nats are stuck in 1960 when Rockwell penned "White Power." They are left with little tactical dexterity, minimal operational art and absolutely nothing resembling strategy.

So when a Roosh comes along and wants to knock out one of the legs on the Cultural Marxist stool, they revert back to fail mode and go after Roosh because per usual on the Right 100% agreement or no agreement.


@27 Mr.MantraMan
Yeah, I see a few white nationalists who use the #WhiteGenocide Twatter tag slamming Roosh, but they don't appear to quite realize that, whatever his ethnic background is, Roosh has done far more to stave off white genocide than most white nationalists, because of his hawking of Game and neomasculinity and how many white men read his materials and those of other Game authorities he helped start (like Heartiste). There are reasons SJWs are so pissed at him, and this is probably a big one.

Anonymous BGS August 09, 2015 12:44 PM  

So 30,000 CHORFS couldn't find the hotel he was speaking at, where they using APPLE MAPS? Did Roosh give directions on how to get there and only the people that could read a map found him?

Nate I have my wine problems like all other decent civilized people. I'm deeply skeptical of an adult that doesn't drink wine.

Are you spilling it on everything or don't know which goes with what food? Nate vs. teetotaler women.

Boxes are the most effective way to store it and keep it.

I have heard drinking it with the bottle in a brown paper bag is the new thing for STR8 people.

otoh, your support of the RoK 'boycott Mad Max' post was in direct contravention of your own repeatedly stated position

I have managed to avoid several bad message movies and prevent others from watching them thanks to the internet like Global Warming Noah, Veteren villain moslem savior on a plane, & Mad taMpAX.
Turns out its now politically better to say you had sex with a gay prostitute than a married underling.
http://www.gaypatriot.net/2015/08/08/ah-the-old-saving-your-political-career-by-starting-a-rumor-you-had-sex-with-a-gay-prostitute-trick/

Anonymous Giuseppe August 09, 2015 12:58 PM  

Roosh's efforts is likely praiseworthy, but that sentence gets a "whatever". Hurts more than helps his cause.

"Only in the eyes of those who can't do the demographic math."

Or understand English, basic history, and humanity in general.

Anonymous Giuseppe August 09, 2015 1:10 PM  

"the whole game concept is boring beyond belief to some of us."
Mostly agree with you my redneck friend

Blogger Cail Corishev August 09, 2015 1:13 PM  

I don't always laugh out loud at my laptop... but it when I do... it's often because Vox has insulted someone in an especially artful way.

I got two chuckles out of it. The first came when I read the original comment and realized the reaction it was going to get.

Of all the places to say you don't think men should have heroes....

Blogger haus frau August 09, 2015 1:19 PM  

@66
I like sci fi and I like Mad Max so we went to see the new one. I was pretty disgusted that they took Mel Gibson's loner hero and turned him into a supporting character for Charlize Theron and her feminine mystique parade. I didn't pick up on the interesting contrast between the original Mad Max and the new one but there is a particular scene where Mad Max is trying to shoot someone at a distance and keeps missing. The one-armed Charlize character steps in, takes the gun and Max immediately steps in front for her to steady the barrel on his shoulder and of course she hits her mark first shot. Subtle propaganda this is not.
At least Tina Turner was somewhat believable in Beyond the Thunderdome. I don't remember her playing an active physical role in the violence. She was a manipulator who had her people carry out her will. Far more typically female then Theron's manly man tough girl act.

Blogger bob k. mando August 09, 2015 1:20 PM  

71. BGS August 09, 2015 12:44 PM
I have managed to avoid several bad message movies like Mad taMpAX.


MM:FR demonstrates that women are dumb and incompetent and if Max and Nux weren't around white knighting for them, they wouldn't have made it to the sandstorm ... much less gotten through anything else in the movie.

hell, the Vulvalini couldn't even figure out how to get children ( exactly the kind of problem a bunch of bike riding dykes would have, dur hur ) while Watertown looks to have hundreds of them.

the Feminine Imperative critique of Fury Road is valid ... but have you seen anyone else, anywhere else, make that point?

and seriously, HOW MANY MOVIES DO NOT FOLLOW THE FEMININE IMPERATIVE? if you're going to boycott about that then you're going to have to stop watching movies and TV altogether.

and frankly, all of Cpt Capitalism's critique and boycott call of Fury Road were silly and wrong ... which is likely to happen when you decide to jump the gun and boycott something without actually knowing what it's about ... because you think it's got an impermissible message.

do i think FR is the greatest thing ever? no, i'm not spooging over it like those idiots over at ArsTech ( "Charlize Theron savaged my brain with a strap-on and it felt GREAT!" )

otoh, it's NOT the Great Voice of Militant Neo-Feminism that Clarey tried to make it out to be either.

as a summer action movie, popcorn extravaganza, i'd rate it very well. certainly better and more coherent than something face poundingly stupid like Prometheus or the Hobbit movies.

as Art, Fury would rank below average.

overall, i'd probably call it a 7 of 10, simply for the relentless thrill ride and lack of CGI / actual effects used.

Anonymous A. Nonymous August 09, 2015 1:28 PM  

MM:FR demonstrates that women are dumb and incompetent and if Max and Nux weren't around white knighting for them, they wouldn't have made it to the sandstorm ... much less gotten through anything else in the movie.

http://uncouthreflections.com/2015/06/25/trolling-movie-critics/

Blogger bob k. mando August 09, 2015 1:32 PM  

73. Cail Corishev August 09, 2015 1:13 PM
Of all the places to say you don't think men should have heroes....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq4aOaDXIfY



74. haus frau August 09, 2015 1:19 PM
The one-armed Charlize character steps in, takes the gun and Max immediately steps in front for her to steady the barrel on his shoulder and of course she hits her mark first shot. Subtle propaganda this is not.



this and ripping Joe's face off are the only two things that Theron accomplishes in the movie.

note though, Theron does not 'take' the gun from Max. she ASKS for it.

i've already pointed out that she would never have gotten to either of those points without the help of her white knights.

more importantly with the sharp shooting thing ... she didn't actually accomplish anything with that. there were still plenty of functioning eyeballs on the BulletFarmer's car and they were still coming.

you'll also note that the shots that Max was trying to take was significantly more difficult than the one Theron took. he had no rest.

yes, he should have been shooting prone instead of kneeling. *shrugs*

it was Max that walked out into the fog and single-handedly killed everybody on the Bulletfarmer's car. and it was Nux who got the rig out of the sand.

Anonymous BGS August 09, 2015 1:34 PM  

MM:FR demonstrates that women are dumb and incompetent and if Max and Nux weren't.. if you're going to boycott about that then you're going to have to stop watching movies and TV altogether.

I haven't watched sports since covering for a sports medicine place, & realized how prevalent PEDs are. I figured I would watch Mad TaMpAX when it came out for Netflix so I wouldn't actually be contributing to my own demise. It is currently playing at the nearest second run theater but it doesn't even seem to be the best offering there. I have avoided most TV & movies in recent years but that gives me more time to seek out content I want along with reading more.

Blogger haus frau August 09, 2015 1:46 PM  

@66 "in original Max, Gibson spends much of the movie trying to protect his wife and son ... and being driven 'mad' when he fails and they are killed. and this makes him the hero.

in MM:FR, Immortan Joe ... spends the whole movie trying to recover and protect his children and wives. and this makes him the villain. whereas, Max spends the whole movie fighting against the father ... and this now makes him the 'hero'."

Not to get to far in the weeds but this reminds me of Joan in Mad Men. She was willing to send her young son away to live with her mother to keep her older lover until he relented. However, when he demanded that she walk away from her fledgeling business that was too much and she let's him walk out forever while she takes a phone call. Feminist lifestyle priorities: career>romance> your own children.

Blogger bob k. mando August 09, 2015 1:49 PM  

yes, Feminine Imperative.

Anonymous Tar Heel (VFM#0245) August 09, 2015 1:54 PM  

It's nice to see another North Carolinian Dread Ilk, David-093. I can't speak to the local wine, but Biltmore Village has been cultivating its own vines for some time now. Asheville is far more known for its beer assortment, but we've had some award winning reds, I do believe.

I've been meaning to try scuppernong wine, though it would be my first sweet vintage. I am a fan of the seasonal grape itself, so I have hopes. This discussion is making me want to pull a cork!

Of course, the video itself would assure it's a celebratory gesture. Roosh gave a fine speech, and we have a victory, thanks to him and others.

Anonymous Steve August 09, 2015 2:06 PM  

I haven't seen the new Mad Max for the same reason I wasn't interested in seeing the (shit-looking) RoboCop remake or the Total Recall remake, and I won't watch the Ghostbusters remake either.

The originals were already brilliant, so why bother? Mel Gibson is the real Mad Max. Peter Weller is the real Alex Murphy. Dr. Egon Spengler is not a lesbian.

The only reboot I liked was the Sam Worthington / Christian Bale Terminator movie, and it seems I'm in the minority on that one.

Blogger Salt August 09, 2015 2:06 PM  

I'm on the coast of NC. Once had a mirco brew here and it was pretty good. We may be getting another. I have no taste for NC wine; way to sweet.

Anonymous 11B August 09, 2015 3:08 PM  

whatever his ethnic background is

What is his ethnic background?

Blogger Beefy Levinson August 09, 2015 3:12 PM  

Roosh is my publisher, but we haven't had a chance to really speak much outside of a professional level. I'm grateful to him for giving me an opportunity and I admire his fortitude against SJWs.

Anonymous Jack Amok August 09, 2015 3:23 PM  

I have my wine problems like all other decent civilized people. I'm deeply skeptical of an adult that doesn't drink wine.

Most forms of alcohol have at least some redeeming value, and they all have their place in a well-enjoyed life. I've taken a liking to Argentinian Malbecs lately.

Blogger Josh August 09, 2015 3:30 PM  

What is his ethnic background?

Turkish, I think.

So he may or may not be white or Caucasian, depending on whom you ask.

Blogger johnnyvee333 August 09, 2015 3:55 PM  

He`s Iranian/Armenian.

Blogger Corvinus August 09, 2015 4:15 PM  

@84 11B

From what I understand, his father is Persian (as is his given name, Daryush Valizadeh), whereas his mother is Turkish of at least partial Armenian descent.

Blogger Josh August 09, 2015 4:28 PM  

So he is of good Aryan stock? Excellent.

Anonymous Cheech And Chong Found God August 09, 2015 5:01 PM  

“But when a man speaks the truth despite being condemned for it, he is more truly walking in the footsteps of Jesus Christ than many a decent, church-going Christian man.”

Curious, as I thought the Bible condemned sex outside of marriage. Yet, we set aside his abject immoral behavior basically because he is anti-SWJ. Set aside principles for the sake of winning the cultural war. Until he has a conversion experience and denounces his empire of sin that he created, he’s a tool.

“Whatever my negative views of certain aspects of PUAs, (mostly to do with their being little bitches) his actions here speak very loud and he needs to be supported.”


“But, but, but Roosh fucks sluts.”

He’s our favorite uncle who is a leech, but finds ways to buy us cool stuff. We know what he does is utterly contemptible, but as long as we get something out of it, we look the other way.


“Roosh, for a seeming secular, is alright in my book. He has done far more good than harm.”

Yep, getting men to “improve” themselves by focusing on numerous ways to bed women.


Accusations of being a gamma in 3, 2, 1...

Anonymous Fidel Naidoo August 09, 2015 5:13 PM  

Vox, I read your blog each day several time for the last 5 years.
I comment very, very little, because I have nothing of value to add, to what you say. Sometimes I agree with you, sometimes not. But that is not important.
Now, I see Roosh, he is to admired for his stand. I admire him.
But, in person, is very difficult.
My wife's brother in law and her mother do not acknowledge me because of my redpill talk. My wife's brother in law has a best friend who hates me for my beliefs: example..... the other day I said in a joking way that I like to give my wife a tough time with something or other ( she was smiling and enjoying the chat ), he looked and said " ah, so you like to mistreat women ......" and looked away. So, my name is sealed to giving women a hard time, in the family.......
( How did I treat the cheeky fucker?....just ignored him, was my normal effervescent self )
But still, my wife wonderful, she listened to Roosh and agrees with me about all the SJW stuff, and what enemies they are.
Because of this, we have a rift in my wife's family. And I hate that for the sake of my beautiful, thoughtful, wonderful partner. She did not ask me, but several months back I told her I would not speak of redpill or anything like that for sake of her ties to family, and I have not, but the shame of giving in lives inside me....... it is truly hard until circumstances...
My Vox, thanks you for all information, and go RP's !!!! ( I learnt English to read Isaac Asimov in the seventies ).

Anonymous NorthernHamlet August 09, 2015 5:35 PM  

Cail,

Of all the places to say you don't think men should have heroes....

I must agree that I turned an eyebrow at "hero." This isn't to say I don't respect men or look to those better than myself, but heroes? Roosh isn't throwing himself on any literal grenades, so the word is misplaced. Maybe others need these sort of heroes, but I'm not overly impressed, even if Roosh seems like an alright guy to have a beer with.

Blogger VD August 09, 2015 5:35 PM  

But, in person, is very difficult.

You have a right to your opinions and beliefs. Don't sit on the defensive, attack their beliefs back twice as hard. They will change them. They are weak and easily influenced.

Anonymous Steve August 09, 2015 5:49 PM  

Cheech - Yep, getting men to “improve” themselves by focusing on numerous ways to bed women.

What's wrong with bedding women?

Game is just a toolkit. It has no moral dimensions in and of itself. If you want to use it to be an epic man-whore, you can. If you want to use it to get a high quality wife and keep her happy, you can do that too.

Roosh's audience skews younger and most of the 20-something chaps who follow his lessons are guys who've been badly let down by feminised modern society. Many of them are in danger of forming part of a lost generation of men, who've been cheated out of good masculine role models and who need to learn how to connect with modern women in ways that don't involve fapping to porn or being a beta doormat.

Roosh gives them the confidence and practical advice to do that, in a way that works in today's society. It's not his fault it's not the 50's any more. He didn't cause Slutageddon or divorce-rape culture. He's just trying to help men get through it without becoming lonely, pathetic incels who masturbate to My Little Pony fanfic, or bitter sociopaths like Elliot Rodgers, or burnt-out middle agers who've been fucked by lawyers because wifey decided she wasn't haaappyyy.

And Roosh's self-improvement game is about self-improvement. Nutting sluts is just one of the fringe benefits. Sex appeals to his audience because, when you're 20, banging hot chicks is pretty much most of what you think about, but it's not the ultimate goal of Roosh's teaching.

Being physically and mentally healthy, having confidence in yourself, learning new things, advancing your business or career - these are all things Roosh talks about as part of self-improvement. He tells men to focus on being higher quality men, and the good things they want (whether that's sex, money, happiness, whatever) will be more attainable.

Plus, he's kryptonite to feminists and SJW manginas.

You don't like him because he's not preaching Christianity, and that's fine. But do you really think Roosh's fans would be praying in church if they hadn't read "Bang"?

Blogger Danby August 09, 2015 5:49 PM  

Fidel,
give it back to them "So, you like to mistreat women."
The proper response is "It's not mistreatment to treat a woman as my equal, So, you like being inferior to women?"
hit them back, don't let them get away with it.

Anonymous Fidel Naidoo August 09, 2015 5:55 PM  

Vox, thank you for replying .......
I understand what you say.
And that's it.
I have no excuse.

But...... ( always a but )........ is my speaking out when I hear crap and want to negate that crap worth my wife's ties to her family?

If I was single, ya, it sounds like everyone with some excuse.....
curse me, I curse myself much already.
But the younger ones are learning.....

Anonymous Fidel Naidoo August 09, 2015 6:02 PM  

Danby.....
The funny thing is that this particialur character looks very much like the main character of the 'Despicable Me', and when he was a coke addict and lost his business, his ( now ) wife, lost her business trying to help him out, and he lived off her for about 4 years.
I have never lived off a woman, and never will.
Maybe it's time to bring that up when I next see him.... "Oh, so it's good to live off a woman ....."
I love this blog and comments.

Anonymous NorthernHamlet August 09, 2015 6:05 PM  

is my speaking out when I hear crap and want to negate that crap worth my wife's ties to her family?

If there isn't enough respect for you to have beliefs, there isn't enough stability for there to be ties. You aren't going out of your way to attack anyone, but if someone doesn't allow you to defend yourself, they aren't worth the trust of bring tied to.

Anonymous NorthernHamlet August 09, 2015 6:06 PM  

For clarity: being tied to* instead of bring tied to.

Anonymous Fidel naidoo August 09, 2015 6:18 PM  

And yes, on my last comment, people can say ..... but he's an alpha, so he lives of women easily, and you're a beta, so that doesn't happen to you.
I don't care.
I don't know what I am, or care, but I do know that I support myself, and could not imagine a life where I am not self supporting ....so my pride would never allow me to live off someone else, male or female ...........

Anonymous Fidel Naidoo August 09, 2015 6:32 PM  

NorthenrHamlet,
Thanks for your reply. I know what you mean.
You have to live it. It's something I can't explain: At the time that guy in ( Straus something ) EU was arrested in NY, we had dinner, and I said how he was probably innocent, and I listed each point that made him so ( his accuser phoning the jail to her boyfriend saying she had a real pay-off, being just one ), and my mother-in-law said
"If a woman says it's rape, it's rape."
That, my friends, is what we are fighting. That thought pattern. The juggernaut of ideology.
That night, she took a disapproval of me as a son-in-law, because i was not part of that ideology.
But, I tell you now ...... Nothing will change her mind .....

Blogger Danby August 09, 2015 6:36 PM  

But...... ( always a but )........ is my speaking out when I hear crap and want to negate that crap worth my wife's ties to her family?

That relationship is probably not able to be saved. ItT certainly won't be saved if they don't start treating you with respect.
He says things like that on purpose.
If you don't respond he will have 2 reactions, 1) you are weak and won't defend yourself, so it's okay to make himself feel better for his weakness by insulting you and 2) It must be true.
He's not an alpha if he's living off of a woman. that makes him dependent on a woman, which means he's less of a man than you are.

And there's nothing wrong with being a beta. On so many mra and game boards, it's all a bunch of gammas trying to out-alpha each other. The treat betas as losers. A beta is just a guy. almost all men always have been and always will be betas. Being a beta just means you're not a natural leader, and you have to work to find a decent woman. (BTW, check out the kind of women Alphas tend to saddle themselves with, good looking, but total bitches.) A society of mostly alphas would be a total shithole to live in.

Blogger Danby August 09, 2015 6:38 PM  

"But, I tell you now ...... Nothing will change her mind ....."

You don't need to change her mind, just her behavior.

Blogger VD August 09, 2015 6:41 PM  

But...... ( always a but )........ is my speaking out when I hear crap and want to negate that crap worth my wife's ties to her family?

Without question. If they are opposed to the truth, you don't want any connection to them.

Anonymous Fidel Naidoo August 09, 2015 7:01 PM  

Vox, Danby, NorthernHamlet.....
Thank you all for your interest, and the advice and comments. I must be to bed now.

Vox..do you drink absinthe?. I would imagine you should, as a degenirate and writer?
If you say yes, I would like to send to you my own absinthe ( I am famous here for it ), made with my own herbs, grown here.
It's not good, but drinkable.

Anonymous Rhys O'Reilly August 09, 2015 7:04 PM  

@ 76. bob k. mando: and seriously, HOW MANY MOVIES DO NOT FOLLOW THE FEMININE IMPERATIVE? if you're going to boycott about that then you're going to have to stop watching movies and TV altogether.

Its not a loss at all. Its a gain. But if you must watch TV and movies you can always turn to the classics.

Blogger Josh August 09, 2015 7:21 PM  

Vox..do you drink absinthe?. I would imagine you should, as a degenirate and writer?
If you say yes, I would like to send to you my own absinthe ( I am famous here for it ), made with my own herbs, grown here.
It's not good, but drinkable.


This is outstanding.

Blogger moderators August 09, 2015 8:44 PM  

people must protest in masses in montreal against censorship and violence and false allegations.

Anonymous Cheech And Chong Found God August 09, 2015 9:19 PM  

“What's wrong with bedding women?”


Talk to God on that one regarding premarital sex. I thought Christians opposed such conduct and actively sought to challenge those engaged in those practices.


“Game is just a toolkit. It has no moral dimensions in and of itself.”

Christian masculinity is desirable.


“Roosh's audience skews younger and most of the 20-something chaps who follow his lessons are guys who've been badly let down by feminised modern society.”


“Roosh gives them the confidence and practical advice to do that, in a way that works in today's society.”

With the sole intention of pumping and dumping. You lose, Roissy toadie.


“Many of them are in danger of forming part of a lost generation of men, who've been cheated out of good masculine role models...”



Gamma talk, or so I am informed.


“Being physically and mentally healthy, having confidence in yourself, learning new things, advancing your business or career - these are all things Roosh talks about as part of self-improvement...”

With the sole purpose to bang sluts.


“You don't like him because he's not preaching Christianity...”



No, I don’t like the fact that alleged Christians here are not outright distancing themselves from a man who packages liberalism--the emancipation of one’s soul in pursuit of carnal knowledge outside of marriage. Because anti-SJW.


“But do you really think Roosh's fans would be praying in church if they hadn't read "Bang"?”

Do you really think Christian men should practice what they preach and renounce temptation as the more moral of the sexes?

Blogger Groot August 09, 2015 9:48 PM  

@96. Steve:
"when you're 20, banging hot chicks is pretty much most of what you think about, but it's not the ultimate goal of Roosh's teaching."

Glad to hear this part. That guy is sporting some white in his beard. If he were still just trying to rack up the numbers, I'd say he's doing something wrong. You quickly lose track of that number, then you start turning it down, because "one" added to "unknown" is unhelpful, and, more importantly, Quality. Once you're thinking quality, the beautiful one who's smart as a whip, and doesn't kowtow even to trees is a keeper. And the spectacular ta-tas. Good times, but I never look back. Raising a family is infinitely more rewarding.

@104. Danby:
"BTW, check out the kind of women Alphas tend to saddle themselves with, good looking, but total bitches."

Not a total bitch, just spunky and interesting. OK, maybe a little, but it makes laugh.

Anonymous Jack Amok August 10, 2015 12:17 AM  

“Game is just a toolkit. It has no moral dimensions in and of itself.”

Christian masculinity is desirable.


If you're starting with neither, which do you encourage first, assuming your goal is to get both eventually?

Anonymous Steve August 10, 2015 7:14 AM  

Jack - quite. Especially when trying to help that most maligned of generations, the Millennials.

Brings to mind the old joke in the Simpsons.

Groot - Yarp. Having a really high notch count seems great when you're 25, but loses some of its lustre when you're 35. You need to know how to get with women first to have the option of being a daddy. Teenagers and 20-something men have always been, for the most part, clueless around girls.

But it's worse now. There's a lot more confusion out there.

I wouldn't swap my little monsters for the single life, even if they do put grey hairs on my head.

Cheech - Grant me chastity and continence, but not yet.

Blogger Harsh August 10, 2015 8:07 AM  

@Cheech And Chong Found God

We don't need pseudo-Christian half-men such as yourself telling us who our allies are. Roosh is on the right side of this fight and if you can't see that, you're a fool and a idiot. Better you shut up and get out of the way before you get stomped.

Anonymous Cheech And Chong Found God August 10, 2015 8:55 AM  

“If you're starting with neither, which do you encourage first, assuming your goal is to get both eventually?”

“Game” is secular. Man-made. Not remotely important.

Here, educate yourself on Christian masculinity.

http://cbmw.org/uncategorized/profiling-christian-masculinity/


“We don't need pseudo-Christian half-men such as yourself telling us who our allies are.”

FULL-BLOODED Christian man. Get it straight.


“Roosh is on the right side of this fight and if you can't see that, you're a fool and a idiot.”

Yes, yes, yes, anti-SJW. I got the meme. Tell me, though, is sexual purity outdated and archaic? Is Scripture relevant today on this matter?


“Better you shut up and get out of the way before you get stomped.”



Oh, look, it’s our resident thought policewoman trying to make a collar.

Anonymous Hrw-500 August 10, 2015 8:59 AM  

As a follow-up to an earlier comment. There a good rant on this French blog at http://pabeaulieu.blogspot.ca/2015/08/sujets-du-10-aout-2015.html. In case if it got deleted, it's archived on the Internet archive and at Archive.is

Anonymous Porky August 10, 2015 10:30 AM  

Vox, as a writer and a degenirate, how do you feel about the recreational use of quaaludes?

Anonymous Jack Amok August 10, 2015 11:11 AM  

“Game” is secular. Man-made. Not remotely important.

Here, educate yourself on Christian masculinity.


You didn't answer the question. Which do you start with? Building masculinity, or building Christianity, in a man who lacks both?

Well, since this thread is already long in the tooth, I'll answer it for you. You start with masculinity because Christianity without masculinity is the churchian crap we see so much of today where feminists use half-understood Christian ideals to keep men subjugated. And the weakling men become their allies against any real men who might want to steer the church in a better direction.

HIstory seems to show that it's a lot more likely for a masculine pagan to find Christ than it is for a Christian wimp to find his balls.

Blogger Marissa August 10, 2015 11:22 AM  

The forums core is non-whites, who have grown up in white countries, and have "belonging" issues. Their forum regularly descends into race arguments.

I have some background links on that, MPC Forums link might be NSFW, not sure.

How it happened:
MPC Forums Too Redpill for Redpill


MPC is the greatest place on the internet.

Anonymous Cheech And Chong Found God August 10, 2015 11:55 AM  

“You didn't answer the question.”


I did answer the question. You rejected the response.


“Which do you start with? Building masculinity, or building Christianity, in a man who lacks both?”


Again, you start with Christianity, who proceeds to build man.


“You start with masculinity because Christianity without masculinity is the churchian crap we see so much of today where feminists use half-understood Christian ideals to keep men subjugated.”

Ah, yes, “half-understood Christian ideals”. Is one of them the promotion of sex outside of marriage?


“And the weakling men become their allies against any real men who might want to steer the church in a better direction.

Real men are Christian men. Did you not even peruse the link?


“HIstory seems to show that it's a lot more likely for a masculine pagan to find Christ than it is for a Christian wimp to find his balls.”

Assuming that the Christian men you describe lack balls.

Anonymous Jack Amok August 10, 2015 12:09 PM  

Real men are Christian men. Did you not even peruse the link?

You seem to be confusing the notion of masculinity with your own ego-massaging definition of "real men" belonging only to your church. Certainly, feel free to praise membership in your church, but the Vikings were quite observably more masculine than the monks they slaughtered.

Assuming that the Christian men you describe lack balls.

Well yes, of course it assumes that, since that's what I fucking wrote.

Anonymous Porky August 10, 2015 12:15 PM  

Certainly, feel free to praise membership in your church, but the Vikings were quite observably more masculine than the monks they slaughtered.

Yep. And those Roman guards were way more masculine than meek little Jesus.

Probably got way more poon tang too.

Anonymous Cheech And Chong Found God August 10, 2015 3:53 PM  

"You seem to be confusing the notion of masculinity with your own ego-massaging definition of "real men" belonging only to your church."

No, belonging to GOD's church. As if your hedonistic, secular view of masculinity matters in the eyes of the Lord.


"but the Vikings were quite observably more masculine than the monks they slaughtered."

Monastic life involved the physical disciplines and a repudiation of secularism--a strict regimen of poverty and chastity. Are you "game"?


So, tell me these “half-understood Christian ideals”. Is one of them the promotion of sex outside of marriage?

Blogger ray August 10, 2015 8:37 PM  

"Roosh is on the right side of this fight and if you can't see that, you're a fool and a idiot. Better you shut up and get out of the way before you get stomped."


Wow. ONE Christian man on the entire web site! A site that's
supposed to be full of Christians, and RUN by a Christian.

Hey, Roosh is a Doosh, and if you don't like the Trooth, tuff titty.



P.S. if you want to stomp the one person who stood up against your Group Grope here, please do start with me. If you get past me you might have a chance with CACFG. You won't get past me though.

Very disappointing. If in service of Christ you can't leave your family, and sex partners, and buddies, then you aren't worthy of King Jeshua. And if you can't even tolerate disagreement with your, ah, hero . . . then you aren't even worth considering, much less testing. Puh. Tooey.

Anonymous Toby Temple August 10, 2015 11:21 PM  

What is wrong with you churchians?

Is game real or not?

Is Roosh preaching a subset of the Truth or not?

Remember how Christ was derided and attempted to be silenced by the religious purist of his time?

Anonymous Jack Amok August 10, 2015 11:42 PM  

Monastic life involved the physical disciplines and a repudiation of secularism--a strict regimen of poverty and chastity. Are you "game"?

That doesn't even make any sense. When you found God, did you forget to lose the bong?

Anonymous Cheech And Chong Found God August 11, 2015 12:19 AM  

Preach, ray.


"When you found God, did you forget to lose the bong?"

Makes perfect sense, "Jack". Basically, are you masculine to endure monastic life?

Again, tell me these “half-understood Christian ideals”. Is one of them the promotion of sex outside of marriage?

Anonymous Fidel Naidoo August 11, 2015 12:30 PM  

Oh, the argument...
I don't know the Bible well at all, but I know it is a very strong document for living a life well lived. and relating to others. If we took everything in the Bible at face value, we would be truly stumped. On this blog, the Dread Ilk cannot say that they follow everything in the Bible. What I talk of is "turn the other cheek."
Definitely not how we wish to deal with SJWs.
Not everything form 2,000 years back can be absolutely put on top of today.
And God did not write the Bible, fallible men did.

Anonymous Cheech And Chong Found God August 11, 2015 8:15 PM  

"On this blog, the Dread Ilk cannot say that they follow everything in the Bible."

Apparently, you would be right. The promotion of sex outside of marriage is a tenet cast aside. Because anti-SJW.

Anonymous Toby Temple August 11, 2015 9:39 PM  

The promotion of sex outside of marriage is a tenet cast aside. Because anti-SJW.

Nice strawman brah!

On this blog, the Dread Ilk cannot say that they follow everything in the Bible.

I'm sorry. But when was the last time we Christians were commanded to stone adulterers to death?

Anonymous Jack Amok August 12, 2015 2:08 AM  

Again, tell me these “half-understood Christian ideals”. Is one of them the promotion of sex outside of marriage?

Well, what do you think? My original statement was that women use half-understood Christian ideals to keep wimpy men under their thumb. Since wimpy men don't really get to have much extramarital sex, I'd have to say no, that's not what I was talking about.

Anonymous Cheech And Chong Found God August 12, 2015 9:14 AM  

"The promotion of sex outside of marriage is a tenet cast aside. Because anti-SJW."
"Nice strawman brah!"

There is no strawman, just fact. Christians claim that sex outside of marriage is sinful. This blog is rife with Christians, yet nary a peep about a man who built an empire "building men up" with the sole intention of "pumping and dumping". You're out of your league.


"My original statement was that women use half-understood Christian ideals to keep wimpy men under their thumb."

Yes, and I am asking you what are these "half-understood Christian ideals"?


"My original statement was that women use half-understood Christian ideals to keep wimpy men under their thumb..."

Not talking about "wimpy men", I am referring to Christians. Do Christians promote sex outside of marriage? Do Christians condone sex outside of marriage?

You're flailing, "Jack".

Anonymous Toby Temple August 13, 2015 3:20 AM  

You're out of your league.

Dream on, fanboy.

There is no strawman, just fact. Christians claim that sex outside of marriage is sinful. This blog is rife with Christians, yet nary a peep about a man who built an empire "building men up" with the sole intention of "pumping and dumping".

So you are simply too stupid to know what strawman means. Good to know.

Anonymous Cheech And Chong Found God August 14, 2015 2:25 PM  

Toby, are you Christian? If yes, do Christians oppose the promotion of sex outside of marriage?

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