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Sunday, August 23, 2015

Immigration hard line is a winner

Donald Trump increases his lead in the polls after releasing his anti-invasion plan:
Republican Donald Trump is pulling away from the pack in the race for the party’s U.S. presidential nomination, widening his lead over his closest rivals in the past week, a Reuters/Ipsos poll showed on Friday.

Republican voters show no signs they are growing weary of the brash real estate mogul, who has dominated political headlines and the 17-strong Republican presidential field with his tough talk about immigration and insults directed at his political rivals. The candidates are vying to be nominated to represent their party in the November 2016 general election.

Nearly 32 percent of Republicans surveyed online said they backed Trump, up from 24 percent a week earlier, the opinion poll found. Trump had nearly double the support of his closest competitor, former Florida Governor Jeb Bush, who got 16 percent. Retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson was third at 8 percent.
Some have theorized that Trump is a Clinton stalking horse. But in light of what appears to be happening to both Trump and Clinton in the polls, is it possible that they have it backwards?

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74 Comments:

Blogger doofus August 23, 2015 6:30 AM  

Well, it could be that he WAS a stalking horse, but it has backfired, and with Shrillary tanking in the polls, we may have us a Trump/Sanders face-off.

Blogger Alexander Thompson August 23, 2015 6:34 AM  

I want to beleive Trump is genuine in his appeal to salvage America. Although if he isn't the collapse will come anyway.

Blogger Shimshon August 23, 2015 6:49 AM  

Several weeks ago EPJ posted about Trump's lackadaisical attitude regarding the nuts and bolts of getting the nomination. He was doing practically nothing at the state level to get delegates. No matter how popular he is, this is a problem. Given this, it seems either he plans to drop out or to run as an independent.

Although the post was not clear on whether he's simply ignoring the primaries (which are after all meaningless beauty contests) or the delegate accumulation process (which is all that matters).

Blogger Doom August 23, 2015 7:04 AM  

I can't be sure I get everything. From what I do gather, and as I see things, this is a bit of a setback. I was hoping for a total no award. Not to punish, simply to prove the point. Even when SJW's go nuclear they are milquetoast. Bleh. Oh well. Hopefully it will be enough to get some of the dullards off the fence. Though I'm not sure even this will work.

I'll try to figure out if, and if so how, to be involved in the voting next time. Especially since I am reading and beginning to know some of the authors. Enjoy your party anyway. Just not my type of thing.

Anonymous Mareth August 23, 2015 7:37 AM  

Dominated the field... with tough talk about immigration and insults directed at his rivals?

Damn, Vox, you should've stayed here and run for president...

Blogger Rantor August 23, 2015 7:48 AM  

@Alexander and Shimshon, it remains to be seen how serious Trump is about becoming president. I too question his motives, but it is nevertheless a shear joy watching him rub the moderate Republicans face in the dirt, leaving them shocked that they are being outclassed by this lifelong moderate.

Anonymous SugarPi August 23, 2015 7:51 AM  

Trump is the new Hope and Change. But I admit, it's fun to watch.

Anonymous PA August 23, 2015 8:09 AM  

Well, did the original "Hope and Change" candidate deliver? I guess it depends on his supporters' motivations. If you wanted America to be fundamentally transformed in a malign way, then he did his darndest best to do that. But if you really believed in all that post-racial, no more wars, lower the oceans talk, then you we ere disappointed.

Blogger Plump Pleasant Plumber August 23, 2015 8:09 AM  

Trump is the result of Republican cowardice. No other way of saying it. Yeah, things are going to swing hard right, I figure. Trump is saying what most are afraid to say. Just watch...the rings are going to say the same things to get reelected. Then, well....same old same old. Interesting times ahead. I wonder when the Planned Parenthood butchers are going to start disappearing?

Blogger Plump Pleasant Plumber August 23, 2015 8:10 AM  

Rino's.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 23, 2015 8:40 AM  

I want Trump to demolish PC, IMO he is doing the job. He throws enough "issues" red meat out there to draw out the kook lefties with their cultural Marxist talking points "racist, sexist and homophobic." From there he strips them of the façade of authority, something the conservative intellectuals never attempted, witness George Will for an example, has sat there for decades ratifying the authority of every left wing stupidity by granting it "intellectual" cover.

Trump is the king of the reframe and puts the left and the cucks on the defensive

Blogger D. Lane (#0067) August 23, 2015 8:43 AM  

Damn, Vox, you should've stayed here and run for president...

Vox for VP.

"Building walls and taking scalps" - Trump/Day 2016

Blogger Shimshon August 23, 2015 8:53 AM  

@6

Rantor, I agree. I have this urge to send The Donald $40 simply for the entertainment value of his totally un-PC campaign.

The Recucks had their chance in 2008 AND 2012 to choose a true gentleman and intellectual giant like Ron Paul. The fact they keep choosing losers like McCain and Romney leaves the field wide open for a bombastic, unscripted, and unpredictable man like Trump.

Blogger Remo - Vile Faceless Minion #99 August 23, 2015 8:56 AM  

I have faith in the Hillary/Diebold ticket. Let the voting machines decide.

Blogger IM2L844 August 23, 2015 8:57 AM  

If the economy becomes the focal point, as I expect it soon will, Trump might be a shoe-in. The people may decide what an administration needs in that circumstance is an experienced administrator rather than an experienced politician.

Blogger Tiny Tim August 23, 2015 9:00 AM  

Donald is a throwback to real men of yore.

The only men presented to Americans in media (except in movies) are weak and defer to the superiority of the female at the drop of a hat.

Donald Trump defers to no one.

Flawed men often rise to lead in desperate times.

Blogger Plump Pleasant Plumber August 23, 2015 9:02 AM  

Trump gives hope for the future, not the crap we have now. Bombastic, unscripted? Is that the best you've got? Tell you what....he's the only person speaking up. The ONLY one. Yep, got a real set of balls, that guy. Republican mangina? NOT!

Blogger Tiny Tim August 23, 2015 9:11 AM  

The age of the feminized castrated American eunuch is in dire jeopardy.

Blogger Cecil Henry August 23, 2015 9:11 AM  

We need a 'Trump' in the current Canadian election. All we have is cucks in 3 parties. There is no one to vote for, only against.

Immigration and White Genocide is the biggest election issue by far but NO politician or MSM will touch it.

Meanwhile 50% of Toronto and Vancouver are non-white and no one wants to live in the ugliness. I can't stand this. IT is a crime. NOT going to comply with these parasites.

Anonymous smedley butler August 23, 2015 9:57 AM  

"He was doing practically nothing at the state level to get delegates. No matter how popular he is, this is a problem. Given this, it seems either he plans to drop out or to run as an independent."

That assertion is contrary to this evidence:

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2015/08/13/donald-trump-storms-iowa-with-most-aggressive-ground-game/

Anonymous LES August 23, 2015 10:21 AM  

<a href="http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=1047”>Trump Is Good For Israel</a>

Anonymous LES August 23, 2015 10:25 AM  

Try again,
<a href="http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=1047”>Trump Is Good For Israel</a>

Anonymous Geoff August 23, 2015 10:32 AM  

Agreed that immigration hard line is a winner. Too bad Trump is talking mainly soft line, i.e. illegals. Hard line would be cutting back significantly on LEGAL immigration.

Blogger David-093 August 23, 2015 10:41 AM  

One battle at a time. He's smart to focus on illegals for now, though I hope we'll see an end to legal immigration after the illegals self-deport. Fact is, theres 50 million of them and they're largely from central and South America.

Give it time and legal immigration will be as acceptable to talk about as illegal is.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents August 23, 2015 10:42 AM  

The question to be asked is when other candidates will start to say "Me, Too!" on the issue of invasion and colonization. If and when the "No Mas!" meme gains traction in any other poltiican's mouth, then we can say that some progress is being made on rolling back the invasion. Not Jebe, he's totally cucked up, but others might come around. Because as long as there's an election, politicians have to at least make noises with their mouth parts that sort of resemble what the base has articulated.

It would be funny if the campaign reduced to Trump vs Sanders and both candidates kept trying to one-up the other on anti invasion rhetoric.

Blogger Tiny Tim August 23, 2015 10:51 AM  

The American Sissy Movement (ASM) has peaked.

Paleo is Rising.

Anonymous Geoff August 23, 2015 10:51 AM  

I feel you, Cecil. Toronto has not only become non-white, but also SJW central, as Roosh V can attest. And this has all happened under the so-called "Conservative" government. Granted, the seeds were sown long before the the Cons came to power 10yrs ago, but neither did they do anything to stop it.

David @24 good points. I hope you're right.



Blogger Sad Puppy August 23, 2015 10:55 AM  

Because as long as there's an election, politicians have to at least make noises with their mouth parts that sort of resemble what the base has articulated.
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The problem with this is, we've done it all over and over before. They say this and that about immigration, and nothing happens. So the regular republicans are not believed even when they say the right things about this. Trump is a sort of wildcard, because he isn't a regular republican. So there is the off chance he may actually mean what he is saying. I believe that is where the numbers rise, as people begin to slowly believe he might just be able to walk the talk.

This would apply to Carson and Fiorina as well. Anyone who has not been tainted by the establishment and cuckthink of average republicans.

I'm still surprised he drew such a massive crowd in Alabama. If he can continue to draw huge crowds like that in the South, he's on to something.

Blogger Sad Puppy August 23, 2015 10:58 AM  

@27

I had read in Mark Steyn's book about being tried for the same SJW crap 3 times in 3 different jurisdictions. I believe that was maybe 10 years ago? Memory is fuzzy, but I thought Canada had already been buried in this stuff for years now.

Blogger Sad Puppy August 23, 2015 10:59 AM  

For Canadians, i also wonder do you guys get any surplus Mexicans from the US? So many come here, I am sure they might slip across the Canadian border as well? I honestly have never been up there, or the adjoining regions.

Blogger David-093 August 23, 2015 11:16 AM  

@Geoff

Thanks. After the illegal immigrant problem is settled, a moratorium on legal immigration can be enacted. As to who should be deported for legal immigration, that's the tricky part. How far back do you go? It's easy to go after illegal immigration because everybody knows the hispanics don't give a shit about the United States and are basically just an invasion force, but European immigrants are viewed differently this time. So what's the rhetoric we use against legal immigration? Chances are most people that are against it have an immigrant in their family, which is easy for the Left to attack.

I think if Trump called for a moratorium on legal immigration it would be fine, but talking about deporting the legal ones can wait until the 50 mil illegals are out. That's a big enough problem as it is.

Blogger Matt Robison August 23, 2015 11:16 AM  

Trump also had a great turn out (30,000+) in Alabama. He's starting to play a long game for the primaries.

Blogger David-093 August 23, 2015 11:17 AM  

@30

I hear they really hate Armenian-Iranians.

Blogger Tiny Tim August 23, 2015 11:18 AM  

The Obama faction of the Democrat Communist Party USA (which is what they are), is flushing Hillary down the toilet like as used tampon.

The age of the Clinton's is officially over.

The deals are being cut right now.

The only reason Hillary is being harassed to the level she has been is because she hung tough to save the Clinton machine.

Put a fork in it.

Trump did make all of that possible.

He gave Obama cover.

Trump advances...

Anonymous Geoff August 23, 2015 11:30 AM  

Sad Puppy @29, yes Mark Steyn and Ezra Levant have been fighting the good fight for years. Two good Jewish boys. What does that mean? Ezra recently started a new media company at therebel.media which has a lot of good stuff.

I don't believe many Mexicans have made their way up to Canada. At least not yet!

David@31 agreed that deporting legal immigrants will be tricky and can wait. On Trump's website, he talks about "moderating" record levels of immigration to "historical averages". I guess that's a start.




Blogger David-093 August 23, 2015 11:38 AM  

Geoff@35

"On Trump's website, he talks about "moderating" record levels of immigration to "historical averages". I guess that's a start."

True that. Anything that results in a net decrease in immigrant arrivals is a plus for the country. Trump's plan would cause millions of illegals to self-deport, which would be a tremendous leap forward.

Anonymous Jack Amok August 23, 2015 11:42 AM  

Several weeks ago EPJ posted about Trump's lackadaisical attitude regarding the nuts and bolts of getting the nomination. He was doing practically nothing at the state level to get delegates. No matter how popular he is, this is a problem. Given this, it seems either he plans to drop out or to run as an independent.

Maybe he has a Rapid Puppy plan. Go into the convention with such a huge lead in the polls, the cuckservative establishment have to either abandon their establishment candidate and vote for Trump, or else burn it down by nominating an obvious loser the party masses don't want. Essentially they can nominate Donald Trump, or they can nominate Noah Ward.

Anonymous WillBest August 23, 2015 11:44 AM  

I joked about it a few weeks ago, but now I am really starting to believe the DNC presidential candidate this year is gong to be Jeb!

Anonymous Susan August 23, 2015 11:55 AM  

David-093 and Geoff,

I believe the first issue regarding LEGAL immigration Trump will tackle is the HB abuse by the corporations in this country. Letting go legal citizens from their jobs and making them train their HB replacement has gone several steps over the limit of tolerance for many people.

People understand cutbacks, but not outright replacement by HB's and then having their severance held hostage to force them to train the replacements.

There is indeed a new wind blowing, and I hope it knocks the cuckservatives right on their craven, cowardly and crooked keisters.

I have also seen some speculation that his next policy paper should be released sometime in the next 2-3 weeks and it will have to do with the economy and jobs.

Anonymous Big Bill August 23, 2015 11:58 AM  

@29 and @35, Canada faced a flood of Mexicans who panicked at some mild immigration measures about 5 years ago.

The Mexicans drove their hoopties up to the border bridges near Detroit, claiming they were refugees.

The Canadians turned them back.

Blogger Jack Ward August 23, 2015 12:12 PM  

Spent some time over at 770 comments this morning. There were a few mentions that the Puppies should be the subject of 'denial of service' attacks.

My question the to the Dark Lord is; should, we the Ilk, be instructed in service of denial attacks? If they are sent to us should we respond in kind?
I know nothing of how to do this. Perhaps a chapter in the sjw attack book?

Blogger Chris Mallory August 23, 2015 12:26 PM  

Here is noted Conservative (sic) writer Rod Dreher's take on Trump:
"I don’t know that I could vote for Sanders. I know I could not vote for Trump. If I voted for Sanders, it would be to stop Trump. — RD"

Blogger Sad Puppy August 23, 2015 12:35 PM  

So a noted conservative would vote for a noted socialist to stop Trump?

Talk about waving the Cuck flag.

Blogger Tiny Tim August 23, 2015 12:42 PM  

With the Trump Blizkrieg plowing up the Ardennes on the way to Bastogne, we ask, where is Bush?

His supporters say he is the regal tortoise, slow and steady with strength and purpose of movement. Donald Trump, on the other hand, has shown the world he is just a cheap, Mexican made polyester throw rug.

And Rand, who we all had such high hopes for. He has been lost in the shuffle. Like the youngest child of six when a family is divorcing.

Now Biden, he is Obama's Medvedev. The problem with Biden is getting all of his neurons synched up. I would say they are going hardcore on Biden's brain as I type, possibly using aborted fetal neural tissue,etc.. Just my opinion.

Anonymous Sheila August 23, 2015 12:48 PM  

While tackling legal immigration will have to be a bit more tactical than illegal immigration, it can be done. So many don't realize the byzantine intricacies of immigration law and its interpretation. As someone noted earlier, H1b visas are low-hanging fruit. So are refugees who vacation or visit their terrorizing home countries within 5 years. So are the vast majority of spousal visas - even with supposed increased scrutiny in the past 15 years, most of them are contractual visa deals easily exposed. For family reunification, it should be simple (and garner high public support) to limit it to spouse and minor children. No aged parents - which means all those who brought over their parents and immediately enrolled them in SSI should/could be removed. I could go on . . . let's just note that the actual number of "legal" immigrants who fit the definition of what most would consider legal - intending to work and truly desirous of becoming part of American society rather than its fringes - is minute.

Anonymous Mr. Rational August 23, 2015 12:55 PM  

@21 Fix your quotes, you've got a bogus one at the end of the URL.

And use "Preview".

@23 Hard line would be cutting back significantly on LEGAL immigration.

First things first.  The next step is either the Refugee Resettlement Racket or siding with the victims of BLM.

Blogger Curtis August 23, 2015 1:11 PM  

Whoever is elected, will meet the Board of Directors and set the tone for the CEO.

Always keeping boobus Americanus off-balance.

Entertained? You will not see a wall on the border. Nor will you see the border militarized.

I am curious though how good of a CIC Trump would be.

Blogger David-093 August 23, 2015 1:12 PM  

An easily understood definition for legal immigration needs to be made before its pitched the people. For illegal immigration it's pretty simple: all those who came illegally (usually hispanics, but also Middle Easterners and Africans) after 1965 must be deported. That's about 50 million people, and most Americans are for that, Right and Left. What's for legal immigration? If the SJWs and Progtards weren't here we wouldn't have to worry about their brain-damaged counterarguments, but unfortunately that's not the world we live in yet.

Blogger Harsh August 23, 2015 1:24 PM  

Someone better remind Trump he's running interference for Bush. If he keeps moving up in the polls, it could get a little embarrassing.

Blogger RobertT August 23, 2015 1:47 PM  

32% this morning.

Blogger RobertT August 23, 2015 1:51 PM  

I've been reading Trump's books. Anybody who had ever read them should not be the least surprised at what's going on. This is classic Trump. He's nobody's foil. If Trump goes down, he'll go down in a bloody fight. I'm with him to the end.

Blogger RobertT August 23, 2015 1:51 PM  

I've been reading Trump's books. Anybody who had ever read them should not be the least surprised at what's going on. This is classic Trump. He's nobody's foil. If Trump goes down, he'll go down in a bloody fight. I'm with him to the end.

Blogger RobertT August 23, 2015 1:51 PM  

32% this morning.

Blogger Thucydides August 23, 2015 1:56 PM  

I had been wondering who Trump would be able to deal with foreign affairs and international issues. While I'm still not clear if Trump would be able to deal with people like Vladimir Putin or Xi Jinping (who are extremely cunning and play long games that make Hillary, Kerry and the rest of the US State Department look like dolts), looking at how Europe is erupting with their own anti immigration riots and political parties, it is very clear Trump will be on the right wavelength with many European people and nations.

If Trump started out playing a game, it has certainly moved far out of control, and it will be vastly entertaining to see how this goes down. Stock up on popcorn, it is a long way to 2016...

Blogger Cail Corishev August 23, 2015 2:10 PM  

There's so much low-hanging fruit in the immigration debate that there's no point in bringing up the trickier stuff in the campaign.

It shouldn't really be necessary to "deport" legal immigrants, for the most part. Control the border, stop applying birthright citizenship to immigrants, end some other programs, and many will go away. H1-Bs, for instance, are on a 3-year plan, so shut that down and in three years they're all gone. When green cards expire, don't renew them. Stop the insane system of college admissions that gives illegals in-state tuition. Enact E-verify and million-dollar fines on employers who violate it. Tell farmers that there won't be any migrant workers coming across the border next year, so they'd better start planning now how they're going to attract American labor. (Tens of thousands of bureaucrats who administer all this garbage will need work.) Extradite illegals convicted of felonies immediately back to their home countries, whether they're wanted or not. End the Refugee Resettlement scam.

Actions like those, combined with good border security, would start a major flow of people back out of the country, without appearing to rescind anyone's invitation to be here.

Blogger Robert What? August 23, 2015 2:34 PM  

I've heard the line about Trump being a shill for Hillary, but it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Trump laboring to help someone else win? And what does Trump get out of it?

Blogger Daniel August 23, 2015 2:40 PM  

Trump had his own meaningless Award show no platformed by univision...which provided him the space to build a platform that he really wanted.

Blogger David-093 August 23, 2015 2:53 PM  

Why would Trump shill for someone when he can win and get what he wants on his own?

Anonymous Sheila August 23, 2015 3:12 PM  

I still doubt I will vote, although if things continue in the correct direction, I might consider voting for Trump. Question to the ilk and others here - as either Stalin or Lenin said (can't be bothered to check) it's not who votes, it's who COUNTS the votes that determines the outcome. Given the dims propensity for cheating (SJWs always lie), even if minority turnout is far down from when d'won was running, has anything changed in the various secretaries of states and other state-level voting personnel? The Soros project thoroughly gamed the system prior to '04, but I haven't read anything about that level of manipulation since Stuart Smalley got himself proclaimed senator.

Second, minor point. While I've generally regarded Trump, previously, as a buffoon, I'm starting to reconsider - merely recalling how much my impression of various public figures was misshaped due to the media. I really don't know much about what he's legitimately done or accomplished or earned; my impression up until now was all about bankruptcies and marital musical chairs. What's really there behind the image the media have worked hard to promote?

Anonymous LES August 23, 2015 4:16 PM  

Trump Is Good For Israel

Blogger James Dixon August 23, 2015 4:56 PM  

> And what does Trump get out of it?

The ultimate reality TV show and all the free publicity he could want.

> Why would Trump shill for someone when he can win and get what he wants on his own?

I'm pretty sure that's what he's asking himself right now. :)

Blogger automatthew August 23, 2015 5:14 PM  

Thordaddy, you've been given a specific rule about your participation here. Follow it, or get banned.

Blogger Cail Corishev August 23, 2015 5:35 PM  

This is classic Trump. He's nobody's foil.

Yep. It's the same thing I said about watching his original TV show. After that, I could believe a lot of crazy stuff from him, but not that he'd take a back seat to a milquetoast schlub like Jeb. In Trump's world, everything he gets involved in has to be #1, preferably with his face or name plastered on it in 10-foot-tall gold letters. Right now we're watching the Trump National Campaign, perhaps leading to the Trump National Presidency -- which, if it happens, will also have to be the biggest presidency ever. There's something to mull over.

Blogger Elocutioner #0226 August 23, 2015 5:39 PM  

On the Dem side it won't be Sanders if the party can help it. This is GovCo - the RNC and the DNC are in it together, they wanted Hillary vs. Jeb - both are fully integrated into the system.

Trump is a wildcard and they're throwing everything they can at him to derail him, including dropping an extra $10M on ads for Jeb since he's tanking fast, and they'll prop up Perry as long as they can. All with super-PAC money.

So it's extra important to replace the "likely to be soon indicted and thus thoroughly unelectable" Hillary sooner than later with another safe establishment bet. They don't control Sanders (he's an Independent that caucuses with the Dems - why don't they make a big deal about that?), Fauxcahontas is about as bright as Bernie and less electable (how exactly is she going to ouc-commie Bernie?), and O'Malley is an unknown nobody. Thus it's likely to be Biden. He's a fool and a buffoon but their bench is really shallow. They're even talking about drafting Gore. This is super cereal, you guys!

For Presidential politics you really need to read The Conservative Treehouse. They're the only ones who really get it.

Blogger David-093 August 23, 2015 5:59 PM  

@James Dixon "I'm pretty sure that's what he's asking himself right now. :)"

Trump to Clinton/Bush: "Wait a sec...I'm at the top of the polls, the people love me and hate you, and I've got all the money I need...I don't need you. YOU'RE FIRED!"

Anonymous Jim Milo August 23, 2015 6:00 PM  

@62 Bigger than President Camacho?

@30 You need a visa to enter Canada from Mexico, and you can only get one if you're either rich or here to pick fruit. In Vancouver you used to get a lot of MS13 on 'student visas' but they cracked down. That was mostly Hondurans though.

Does this seem like a cuckservative policy to you?





Blogger Thordaddy August 23, 2015 6:29 PM  

Automatthjew...

I neither broke a rule or the rules.. 5 comments per post... On topic... With no use of that icky, icky label for badbad white Christians...

For the amateurs... Trump is the "evil white man" to which all the media immigrant sob stories will flow through OUT TO the SWPL "white" males who will be the recipient of the violent brown backlash... Liberal devouring liberal all under Liberalism... But the Narrative needs that ghost or an approximation thereof. That's Donald Trump and he will be paid handsomely, undoubtedly by the zeitgeist.

Blogger Thordaddy August 23, 2015 7:07 PM  

A "default elite" (an indomitable host) requires a mass of perpetuating self-annihilators (human-like suboptimal parasitic AI). What this means for white males who still comprise the bulk of recalcitrant submissions is that the best and greatest of your past must haunt you into total liberation. There is no more justification in holding onto such a sordidly compromised Father. The liberationist divorced The King, The Pope and The Father. Get with the program.

Anonymous Mr. Rational August 23, 2015 7:17 PM  

Thorwanker, you're psychobabbling again.  Go away until your meds are properly adjusted.

Blogger automatthew August 23, 2015 7:39 PM  

Thordaddy, have you considered Christian Identity?

Blogger Harsh August 23, 2015 9:15 PM  

I've heard the line about Trump being a shill for Hillary, but it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Trump laboring to help someone else win? And what does Trump get out of it?

That's the part that never made sense to me about the "Trump running interference for Jeb" argument. His ego doesn't seem geared to that sort of role.

Blogger Harsh August 23, 2015 9:16 PM  

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Blogger Expendable Faceless Minion August 24, 2015 5:38 PM  

What does Trump get out of it? Ever heard of Solyndra? There are literally billions in taxpayer money that are funneled around for this kind of crap.

I think, however, Trump let the Clintons grease the skids for him to get him in as a spoiler, then VP for Hillary on a unity ticket. Only Trump probably is thinking:

'Why ride that old nag Hillary and lose? Fuck that! I'm going to ride the "I hate O" thoroughbred. I'll be the one handing out billion dollar bribes. Not you incompetent has-beens.'

I am SOOOO looking forward to him asking Gore in a debate "Why did you buy a $9 million beach mansion after telling everyone the oceans were rising?" "Are you still flying your 1/200th mpg private Gulfstream to enviro-whacko fundraisers?"

Anonymous Mr. Rational August 24, 2015 10:34 PM  

"Why did you buy a $9 million beach mansion after telling everyone the oceans were rising?"

That's too easy.  "Because that won't be a problem in the years I have left, and there is no point in refusing to enjoy these things while they're still here.  That's still not a reason to destroy them."

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