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Sunday, August 30, 2015

No one ever cared

Unwitting testimonial evidence concerning Chapter Seven: What to do when SJWs attack at Sarah Hoyt's place.
I can’t walk away anymore. I can’t stay on the sidelines anymore and pretend it doesn’t affect me.

Two reasons. First, thanks largely to you, Larry, Mad Mike, and Brad Torgersen, I’ve rediscovered great science fiction (mostly Baen authors, admittedly), and despite my best efforts, I seem to be turning into a science fiction author as well. I don’t want the Kickers to destroy the genre that I’m once again growing to love and am slowly becoming a part of

Second, and the main reason, is that I saw what the SJWs and CHORFs ad TruFans did to you and the rest of the Puppies. I was horrified and disgusted by their actions, but not in the least surprised. Because I’ve been there. It’s too long a story to post here, but back in college I found myself caught in the crosshairs of those so-called Right Thinking Moral Crusaders. I had my academic career, and very possibly my entire future put in jeopardy becausea small screaming minority of foaming at the mouth CHORFs took offense at something that was published in the student-run newspaper, of which I was one of the copy editors.

Nobody came to our defense. A few brave souls tried, only to abandon us when the Administration made clear that they would suffer the same extreme academic penalties that we were facing(read: loss of credits, possible suspension or expulsion) for doing so. The only reason they didn’t follow through with their threatened punishments was because the school’s lawyers pointed out that such actions would leave them wide open to a slew of bad publicity and – worse – a myriad of lawsuits.

I can’t do that. I can’t stand by and do nothing while the SJWs and CHORFs try to do the same thing to you.

What I’m trying to say is that I am with you. Through Sad Puppies 4 until the end, no matter how long that may be, I am with you. Come hell, come high water, come an avalanche of sh*t flung by the Social Justice Monkeys, I am with you, and I will do whatever I can to help the puppies, though admittedly given my present situation that probably won’t be much more than moral support and acting as a repeater on social media. But win or lose, I’m with The Sad Puppies until the bitter end.
From Chapter 7: 1. Rely on the Three Rs: RECOGNIZE it is happening. REMAIN calm. REALIZE no one cares.

This indifference on the part of bystanders is one reason why the SJWs have methodically proceeded from one victory to the next despite their relatively small numbers. They take out one Narrative skeptic and silence 100 others who henceforth fear to express doubt, let alone denial, of the most shameless falsehoods. The reason that Roosh, Mike, Milo and me, to name four, enrage them so greatly is that they have been unable to discredit us despite their best efforts, and as a result, ever so slowly, dozens, scores, hundreds, now THOUSANDS of people are beginning to understand what has been taking place and why our society is where it is.

And they are not happy.

I'm not saying you should care about the SJW war on truth and Western civilization because then you will be a good person. I'm not saying you should stand up the SJWs because it is a moral imperative. I'm saying you should care and you should stand up to the SJWs in your own naked self-interest and in the interest of salvaging and maintaining as much of Western civilization as possible.

Do you think either the Bolsheviks or the Russian people they conquered had any idea that the Impossibility of Socialist Calculation was going to leave them condemned to poverty and economic stagnation? If not, then it should be possible for you to understand that neither the SJWs nor the average individual who sees no harm in them realizes that the Impossibility of Social Justice Convergence renders the SJWs a serious threat to the survival of Western civilization.

All of this stuff, from the universities to the churches to science fiction to games are the same evil, dyscivic, and dyscivilizational campaign. No aspect of it, however seemingly trivial, should be ignored.

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72 Comments:

Anonymous Til August 30, 2015 10:14 AM  

The belief that needs to die more than anything is the tendency of nice, civilized people to look at the SJW and use kid gloves because 'They have such good intentions, they're not evil people'.

Good intentions along with the certainty that they are smarter than everyone else are combined within the SJW to create a monster, a devil in human flesh that gets a sense of righteousness from the forced subservience of others.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 30, 2015 10:14 AM  

Nope she should follow the stalwart leadership of the moderates at the "American Conservative" who publish a magazine dedicated to highlighting the amazing convergence of values of some liberal this or that with good conservatism, yet never ever broaching the taboo of actually asking the liberal to reciprocate (oh my the vapors).

Thank you Dreher.

Blogger David-093 August 30, 2015 10:28 AM  

Au contraire, people. SJWs Always Lie may be well and good for controversial totally-white white supremacist super-haters like Vox Day and his equally white neo-nazi associates, but the path of moderation is the only moral high ground here. And also, Jesus said turn the other cheek, so we have to do that too.

Take a page out of a better book and see:

"The only way SJWs will stop is by an immediate and heartfelt public apology that shows how you truly never meant to offend anyone and are deeply grieved that you did."

-SJWs Are Misunderstood: Talking to the Thought-Guardians, Ch. 4, pg 37

Anonymous MrGreenMan August 30, 2015 10:30 AM  

I tried with my one-man protest to address that "no one cares" thing with the university from the fundraising calls. If they give you a degree - they will call - probably once a month.

I would dedicate five minutes to talking with the young skull full of mush until I found what I was looking for - the FIRE report about free speech at the university. Invariably, they would still be a red. Then, I would start talking and not stop about how I used to think college was about freedom of expression, and free thinking, but that Moo U certainly wasn't that anymore, and then I'd read something from FIRE, and say - don't talk to me begging for money while you don't believe in freedom of thought. Have a nice day!

I assume that most of the students are too stupid to realize that they're programmed to respond to specific stimulus better than Pavlov's dogs, and that it didn't have to be that way.

Anonymous MrGreenMan August 30, 2015 10:37 AM  

@1 Til

If more people read their Bibles, and believed them, as conservatives claim, they'd know that Satan espoused the best of intentions in the Garden.

"Then a little old man stood up, bent with age, his hair thin and white, and said, 'Preacher, tell them that satan is real too.'"

Once you're told that the road to Hell is paved with good intentions, the excuse that they are nice people and they have such good intentions - you are most likely choosing Hell!

Blogger Salt August 30, 2015 10:38 AM  

"The only way SJWs will stop is by an immediate and heartfelt public apology that shows how you truly never meant to offend anyone and are deeply grieved that you did."

Issue that such an apology shall be issued. Cordially invite all the SJWs to attend, held at the largest stadium possible. Make it on a Sunday... then fly in the Zeplin.

Anonymous Stickwick August 30, 2015 11:01 AM  

When I was a university freshman, I applied to start an Objectivist club on campus, and that inspired an SJW at the campus newspaper to publicly call me a fascist. I was taken aback by the viciousness of the attack. Did this guy know nothing about Objectivism? Why was he calling me a fascist? The stupidity and unfairness of it really pissed me off. I talked to his editor, who acknowledged that it wasn't a nice thing to do, but then sheepishly defended the cretin. So, I challenged Mr. Cretin to an op-ed debate in the newspaper, which he unwisely accepted. He was wholly unprepared to defend his position, as evidenced by the pathetic piece of tripe he wrote. In my piece, I called him out on his vicious attack and humiliated him. His editor, after reading it, encouraged me to tone it down, because it embarrassed one of his staff, but I told him he was going to run it as is, which he did.

No one ever bothered me on campus after that. In fact, during my senior year, the faculty (some of them very hard left in their philosophies) invited me to be the sole student member of the committee that governs all faculty hiring and promotion decisions. I was honored, but perplexed -- I was a very good student, but I was also the campus right-wing nutjob and troublemaker. Looking back at all I have learned from Vox about SJWs, all of this makes sense now. The SJWs were afraid of me, and my willingness to fight back meant that I had earned the respect of a lot of people on campus.

Blogger Shimshon August 30, 2015 11:02 AM  

There is no subject so picayune or obscure that some SJW somewhere won't take umbrage and attempt to exert control over.

Paul Lutus, the developer of Apple Writer, describes his experience with Wikipedia.

http://arachnoid.com/programmable_calculators/index.html

To wit:

My primary reasons for writing this article are to record a bit of personal history, describe programming before the personal computer, and reminisce a bit. But I have another reason — some of my regular readers know there's an article about me on Wikipedia, but that article is likely to be deleted (update: it's gone — see below). The stated reason for deleting it is because it doesn't have enough references for its claims — for example, that I wrote a solar system model that was used by JPL during the Viking lander mission. Wikipedia rightly requires documentation for any claims made in its articles, and until this article, the article you're reading, that claim wasn't documented. It is now, by this article and by its attached correspondence. Nevertheless, once I saw that the article was being considered for removal, I added my own vote in favor of deletion. Why? Because it had become a cheap sounding board for people annoyed at my positions on controversial topics, particularly psychology and stockbrokers.

That's the real reason the self-appointed editors over at Wikipedia moved to delete the article (remember that anyone can sign up and edit Wikipedia articles). I've been tracking the article since it first appeared in 2006, and there have been any number of efforts to delete or destroy the article by people of varying levels of skill. One of the cleverer tactics has been to delete the list of references, wait 24 hours, then argue for the article's deletion on the ground that the article's claims have no references — that's been tried several times.

Anonymous Darth Toolpodicus #144 August 30, 2015 11:04 AM  

Black Sunday reference. FTW.

Anonymous Dave August 30, 2015 11:13 AM  

@Stickwick you made yourself a hard target when you were a college freshman, kudos to you.

If you don't mind me asking were you homeschooled?

Blogger pyrrhus August 30, 2015 11:13 AM  

Eloquently put, VD. And those of us with children have an even greater stake in stopping them.

Blogger Sherwood family August 30, 2015 11:20 AM  

SJWs may seem NICE but they are not GOOD. We've all minded our own business for too long and let them try to mind everyone else's. It is time to grab them by the hair and drag them kicking and screaming out of the public square and back to where they came from: lurking on the margins, hiding in holes, creeping out of closets like the perverted monsters they are.

Their views have been given a public airing and stink to high heaven. No further airing is necessary. Indeed, no further airing should be tolerated.

They have destroyed individual lives by the millions through propagating their twisted philosophies.

They have destroyed families by the millions by glamorizing their deranged beliefs.

They have murdered innocents by the millions in an on-going clinical holocaust against the "inconvenient".

They deserve no mercy.
They deserve no pity.



Blogger pyrrhus August 30, 2015 11:23 AM  

@1--The belief that needs to die more than anything is the tendency of nice, civilized people to look at the SJW and use kid gloves because 'They have such good intentions, they're not evil people'.

Another problem being that SJWs ARE evil people, witch hunters, fetal parts sellers, etc.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling August 30, 2015 11:32 AM  

Stickwick: Sounds like you got appointed to the position of "Stop Us From Making a Terrible Mistake" in hiring a faculty member that might for example bring disrepute to the university.

Blogger LP999/S.I.G. Burn'in Up! August 30, 2015 11:41 AM  

No, your future is bright, continue without worry in your work.

If someone wishes not to carry the message there are others whom will.

Anonymous Stickwick August 30, 2015 11:44 AM  

@10: Dave: If you don't mind me asking were you homeschooled?

Sorta, but not really. In junior high, I dropped out of school for two years because I was so utterly bored and disgusted with it. My father let me school myself, which meant I did precisely zilch except for a lot of reading during those years. (Funny aside: This is how useless public school is -- I tested right out of what I missed and was allowed to skip ahead with my peers when I decided to go back.) The real benefit of missing those years was that I was out of the brutal, nasty female junior high milieu, which is quite psychologically damaging to most girls. I then attended an International Baccalaureate high school, which was rigorous and intellectually challenging.

I was also old for a freshman. I started university at 26 instead of 18. I was older than the SJW creep who was hounding me, and not that much younger than some of the faculty. I just didn't have that sense of awe and intimidation that a lot of younger freshman have when they start university.

Blogger James Sullivan August 30, 2015 11:53 AM  

I found myself in the same place, regarding the sidelines of this battle last year.

I think that I was content to go about my day, read my sci-fi and fantasy books. That those books were collectively dropping in quality over the years was something I had noticed but hadn't attributed to any specific causes.

One day, I stumbled across Vox Day. I'd never heard of him. I'd read John Scalzi's 'Old Man's War' on the recommendation of a friend and hated it but that was all I new of the man you all call McRapey.

I had attempted to read N.K. Jemisin's 'Ten Thousand Kingdoms' which I found nigh unreadable. But that was all I knew of her.

But after reading Monster Hunter, and looking up Larry Correia, I followed a couple of links which led me here.

And my mind was blown.

I'm no Vile Faceless Minion. I'm no Dread Ilk wannabe. I'm just an average guy, not much of a "joiner", truth be told. But I can't sit on the sidelines, once I know that the battle is on and the stakes are what they are.

There may be hundreds of Dread Ilk. There may be even more Vile Faceless Minions. But I'm telling you, especially the SJW lurkers and trolls, there are far more people like I was: people waiting to wake up to the battle for hearts and minds, the existential battle for what's left of Western Civilization. Far more of them. As in Orders of Magnitude.

And the best part about discovering that this fight is happening, is the rekindling of hope, watching the formerly ignorant realize the situation, sit up and take notice. And then step into the fray.

And by the way, nice job on "SJWs Always Lie" Vox. I loved it and have convinced three co-workers to purchase it. My father plans on reading it when it comes out in dead tree format.

It's one thing to know there is a battle. Another thing entirely to be given the tools and Intelligence to fight back.

Anonymous PA August 30, 2015 12:29 PM  

"I just didn't have that sense of awe and intimidation that a lot of younger freshman have when they start university."

Same here. I went to college at 26, after three years in the Army. I never took younger liberal classmates seriously and felt a benignely patronizing toward the more liberal professors as pussies (any young man who had just left the service knows that quiet feeling of superiority to civilians).

Anonymous Mike M. August 30, 2015 12:41 PM  

It occurs to me that the whole SJW business proves that our forefathers were right about duelling - that it IS a check to bullies. A way to force the Social Justice Bully to put his life where his mouth is.

Time to bring the Code of Honor back.

OpenID mickoneverything August 30, 2015 12:45 PM  

Yes, more people awakening to what is happening is good. I am diligently lacing my children's nourishment with red pill daily, too. I would trace the seeds of my own sjw enlightenment all the way back to eighth grade in the early 90s, in public school. When I went to Catholic high school and saw the difference, it made a huge impression on me, many facets of which I didn't fully comprehend until adulthood.

Good intentions are wonderful, with those and another $2 you can buy a cup of coffee.

I think at least part of the problem lies in work ethic. SJWs don't believe in the path of hard work. Since most here know that man is born, suffers, and dies, we are ok with working hard to achieve our goals. This of course leads to the (truthful) cliche that the left have all the protesters because the right is busy working.

Another bedrock issue with the SJW crowd is one that my mother has been harping on for years - gratitude. They are never appropriately grateful for anything deserving, and instead ejaculate their adulation all over the heroic matter of the moment, in a never ending bread game of sophistry.

OpenID mickoneverything August 30, 2015 12:48 PM  

On being older in college - I was mid-20s, a dad, and working full time when I went back. I made some of my lefty teachers miserable, and on one occasion had to withdraw from an English class when I said that the Harlem Renaissance writing we were studying would be graded an F in third grade, and deserve it. I went that day from all As in that class to all Fs, and when the faculty dgaf I withdrew.

Anonymous PA August 30, 2015 12:50 PM  

"SJWs don't believe in the path of hard work."

A practical definition of Leftism is 'agenda to position oneself high on a social hierarchy, bypassing traditional steps to advancement. '

That's why it tends to appeal superficially to young people.

Blogger Aeoli Pera August 30, 2015 12:56 PM  

Welcome to the new underclass, Raptor.

Blogger James Sullivan August 30, 2015 1:00 PM  

@21

I was 17 when I was a freshman in college. I just figured that the majority of my professors were bleeding heart liberals with good intentions.

I was 17 and stupid.

I had a Creative Writing professor giving me a failing grade for the entire course because I wrote something that offended her: we had to watch "Thelma and Louise" (hey mom and dad, ever wonder where all that money is going?) and write a ten page paper (I kid you not) on why the movie was so "Empowering 20th Century Women".

I didn't write the paper she wanted me to write. Big Fat "F", for the entire course, never mind that I hadn't received less than a B prior to it.

College. Not just a word on John Belushi's sweatshirt.

OpenID mickoneverything August 30, 2015 1:05 PM  

@24 nice. I had an opportunity to confront a prof after finals once, telling him that my fellow students were all astounded that my final essay didn't get an A after they read it, and asked if it was my politics or superior command of the language he didn't like? Thay was fun, if ultimately useless.

Blogger Pseudotsuga August 30, 2015 1:06 PM  

@21: Not all the Harlem Renaissance writing is that bad, mind you.
Suddenly changing your class grade to an F based on aesthetic or political views is exactly parallel to the No Awards debacle.
It's identify signaling, rather than grading on merit.

Blogger JWM August 30, 2015 1:12 PM  

@17 James Sullivan
Right with you. I was unaware of this whole battle until I found John C Wright's blog. And I sat and watched until I read about the verbal assault on Mrs. Wright. That pushed me over the edge. I am in the fight. I will take a membership in Worldcon solely for the purpose of adding my vote. (Crap, JWM you just put it in writing. That makes it a promise.) I grew up on science fiction. As a kid my first passion for reading was the Tom Swift Jr. books. Now I tend to read in binges, and it's been a while since my novel a week habit had me by the scruff of the neck. But I've got a reading list, and I'm getting a Kindle. It's on.

JWM

Anonymous rienzi August 30, 2015 1:20 PM  

I liked her description of the opposition as "social justice monkeys". It fits so much better than "warriors", as all they do is howl as a group, and fling poo. Kipling's "Bandar-Log" come to life in reality.

Anonymous Mr.A is Mr.A August 30, 2015 1:23 PM  

@8. Shimshon
Excellent snip form Paul Lutus -- and a reminder for me check on his free wepage dev tool/ASCII editor Arachnophilia -- he updated it earlier this year. I highly recommend it. Arachnophilia

Blogger JWM August 30, 2015 1:29 PM  

When I look back at my college experience I am shamed. I didn't start until I was 30, but after 12 years in the blue collar world I was still starry eyed. I had this romantic notion of higher education as a temple of high learning and great wisdom. I bought into it hook line and sinker. One of the great traps in college is the GPA. You learn pretty quickly that the unspoken rule of the "liberal" arts is "Disagree, get a "C". I had straight "A's" in my senior comp class until I took on some feminist hack essay we were assigned and gave it a the scorched earth treatment. I was allowed to re-think my positions and submit a second attempt. And I did, and I preserved my GPA at the cost of my integrity. That still stings me some 30 odd years later.

Blogger George August 30, 2015 1:29 PM  

One of the SJW offenses that seems to be forgotten was the purging of Jonathan Ross as the MC at Loncon3 (SP2). http://file770.com/?p=16179 Apparently Ross is a late night comic in the UK. His appearance at Loncon3 would have gotten a huge boost in the local press. But apparently he was too offensive for the Special snowflakes at Loncon.

Anonymous Jack Amok August 30, 2015 1:31 PM  

you should care and you should stand up to the SJWs in your own naked self-interest and in the interest of salvaging and maintaining as much of Western civilization as possible.

There's some long-term/short-term thinking involved. Short-term, it's in your interest to keep quiet and stay on the sidelines. But long-term, that's a disaster, because the odds are sooner or later they will come for you too. Certainly if you have any sort of a decent life, you'll be a target.

The belief that needs to die more than anything is the tendency of nice, civilized people to look at the SJW and use kid gloves because 'They have such good intentions, they're not evil people'.

I think that used to be the case, but nowadays, it's more likely the nice, civilized people keep quiet because they don't want to attract the attention of the batshit crazy people they now know SJWs to be. Also likely because the average decent, civilized person would rather not destroy another human being, and that's what you need to do to fight back against SJWs.

Blogger VD August 30, 2015 1:33 PM  

And by the way, nice job on "SJWs Always Lie" Vox. I loved it and have convinced three co-workers to purchase it. My father plans on reading it when it comes out in dead tree format.

Thanks. It's good to hear that those outside of the inner circles are getting something out of it. I've even heard from a few lefties who like it and think it is useful. They're not immune from SJW attacks either, I suppose.

Anonymous Duke of URL VFM#391 August 30, 2015 1:56 PM  

Vox:
Enjoyed reading SJWs Always Lie very much. I was really startled by how extremely up-to-date it is! Put a 5-star on Amazon and complained about 3 of the 1-star ratings.
Just bought a Supporting Membership in WorldCon - had a VERY hard time finding out how to do this - they haven't updated their website since 2013; I suppose they couldn't afford to, what with giving all those free memberships to CHORFs in order to stack the ballots.

Blogger George August 30, 2015 2:03 PM  

http://www.mac2business.org/events/midamericon-ii/

Link to the registration page for Mid America Con.

Blogger Badmojo August 30, 2015 2:28 PM  

Despite being a reader here forever (decade+?), I was one of those bystanders for years and chose not to get involved - even told to by an employer when it hit close to home. As in, I've worked directly with some of the leading SJWs but mostly avoided them.

The attack on gamers annoyed me but the false righteousness of those leading it pissed me off. It was the overreaction to Sad/Rabid is what drove me over the edge.

Now I'm going to help burn their strongholds, salt their ground, and watching them writhe in the microaggressions they fear. Fuck them.

Blogger Salt August 30, 2015 2:38 PM  

Just registered MidAmericaCon. Ready to rock it.

Blogger RobertT August 30, 2015 2:40 PM  

Perhaps your expulsion from (whatever), Gamergate & the Puppies laid the foundation for a second revolution in America. At the very least, they probably made Trump's success possible. It wasn't that long ago that Boehner & McConnell were doing whatever they wanted, basically unopposed. The only difference I can see is you guys fought back. Suddenly, in the course of a few months, the world has been turned upside down and set on fire.

So, kudos. Thank you.

Anonymous Earl August 30, 2015 2:41 PM  

My experience with SJW witch hunts and SJW family members leads me to believe that there is no cure for the ailment. These are useless, damaged, dehumanized people. They've been stripped of a great deal of what makes us human, what makes us more than animals. They've been stripped of their fathers, their religion, their nationality, their race, the truth. They're literally on psych meds, otherwise not functional people.

They are on psych meds.

THEY ARE ON PSYCH MEDS.

The world is already trying to cure them as best it can, and it is failing. They are hopeless. Nothing can save them except Jesus Christ Himself.

Anonymous Satan's Hamster August 30, 2015 2:59 PM  

@39: "THEY ARE ON PSYCH MEDS."

I have wondered at times just how much the massive growth in pyschoactive medication in America might be responsible for the growth of the SJW movement, just as it apparently has been responsible for many of the mass shootings of the last few decades. If you keep pumping people full of drugs that disconnect them from reality, they're not likely to act in a realistic manner.

Anonymous Rolf August 30, 2015 3:00 PM  

@17 - James - Yours is a much more common story than you may believe. It is very similar to how I ended up here. Welcome home.

Anonymous Keener August 30, 2015 3:13 PM  

PA ---
And that's why we're getting such low-grade, dense, corrupt people in government and in academia. And literature. I hit this blog about every day for oxygen.

Blogger Zeke OF Confettii August 30, 2015 3:17 PM  

JWM check out Jeff Dunteman's tribute to the Swift, Jr. Books on Contrapositive (his BLOG). Happy to have you aboard, VFM #396.

Blogger Zeke OF Confettii August 30, 2015 3:20 PM  

JWM check out Jeff Dunteman's tribute to the Swift, Jr. Books on Contrapositive (his BLOG). Happy to have you aboard, VFM #396.

Blogger byronfrombyron August 30, 2015 3:44 PM  

Regarding psych meds: Some people become well adjusted on meds, most just become higher functioning. I am writing from people I know, not experience. My opinion on the matter is the asylums should not have all been shut down. Made more humane, sure; I won't dispute mistreatment and unethical medical practices. Society as a whole would be easier to trust if sanitariums were open to allow people to heal, and then return to the world.

Regarding the Hugos, we are seeing some of the true results: More puppies of all types, more people being exposed to the war in the first place, and more books that are actually worth reading.

Blogger alexamenos August 30, 2015 4:06 PM  

@VD Finished off SJWs Always Lie in one sitting today. Good stuff, I didn't quite recognize the significance of #gamergate as it was unfolding but I'm paying more attention now.

Blogger VFM bot #188 August 30, 2015 4:06 PM  

Good intentions along with the certainty that they are smarter than everyone else are combined within the SJW to create a monster, a devil in human flesh that gets a sense of righteousness from the forced subservience of others.

Exactly. We are dealing with DEMONS, people. That is the SJW Disease.

Blogger VFM bot #188 August 30, 2015 4:09 PM  

SJWs may seem NICE but they are not GOOD. They have destroyed individual lives by the millions through propagating their twisted philosophies. They deserve no mercy. They deserve no pity.

Worth repeating.

Blogger JWM August 30, 2015 4:38 PM  

@44 Zeke

A million thanks for that. I just finished The Jeff Dunteman piece. It literally brought me to tears. I was that same 8 year old. For a few minutes I was back spending the weekend at my grandmother's house, sitting in bed with a giant bottle of RC Cola, a big bowl of New Era Potato Chips, and the newest Tom Swift book. Tom Swift was the future that we were promised. We couldn't wait to get there. Consider- in 1960 the space race was on. I was in second and third grade, and I'd see Kennedy's promise to put a man on the moon fulfilled before I graduated high school. Now I'm at the end of my working career, and I'm quite content to work a small gig as a night janitor in a local elementary school. In one of the classrooms there is a horribly done poster of a rocket ship with three ethnically diverse kids aboard. The caption/topic for discussion reads, "What can we learn from exploring space?" A second grade kid in 1960 would see America explore space. A second grader in 2015 will probably never see America lift an astronaut into orbit.

JWM

Blogger darrenl August 30, 2015 4:38 PM  

Hi Vox,

Just bought SJW Always Lie.

...carry on.

Cheers.

Anonymous Mr. Rational August 30, 2015 5:41 PM  

A second grader in 2015 will probably never see America lift an astronaut into orbit.

A pensioner in 2015 will probably live to see SpaceX launch astronauts to the ISS.

Orbital rocketry is old hat; Von Braun probably could have done it in 1944.  Stop thinking about it as some kind of magic; it's an engineering problem, and only an engineering problem.

Anonymous Ain August 30, 2015 6:41 PM  

Shimshon: "There is no subject so picayune or obscure that some SJW somewhere won't take umbrage and attempt to exert control over."

As we've come to find out, it's not about the subject, it's about finding a target they believe to be vulnerable, and taking it out. The accusation is just the vehicle to arrive where they want to go. Sometimes the SJW herself even knows it's fabricated bullshit, but they see it as a way to promote themselves.

Anonymous That Would Be Telling August 30, 2015 6:58 PM  

@51 Mr. Rational: Few people knew better than von Braun that non-engineering factors are paramount. Back when his team could have put a satellite in orbit, they were ordered to include sand ballast to prevent that from "accidentally" happening. There are two not mutually exclusive stories told as to why: the Navy had won the political battle to do that (but was failing spectacularly), and Eisenhower wanted the Soviets to go first to establish the Open Skies principle for space, prior to that the Soviets were insisting orbiting satellites over other countries' territory without permission was illegal

Blogger VD August 30, 2015 7:08 PM  

Just bought SJW Always Lie.

Thanks. I'll be interested in hearing what you think of it.

Blogger VD August 30, 2015 7:10 PM  

Finished off SJWs Always Lie in one sitting today. Good stuff, I didn't quite recognize the significance of #gamergate as it was unfolding but I'm paying more attention now.

I hope you'll write a review. Your analyses of the debates were always insightful. I didn't realize the significance of GG at first right away either or I would have pushed it harder. I wasn't initially involved as an SJW opponent, but as a simple gamer.

Blogger alexamenos August 30, 2015 7:33 PM  

@VD. Happy to write a review.

Blogger Tom Kratman August 30, 2015 7:44 PM  

Yes, but standing up to them IS a moral imperative, even so.

Anonymous GreyS August 30, 2015 7:49 PM  

They don't even believe the shit they peddle. They merely use the Narrative for their own ends. And so many are so unhappy and on meds. Look at three examples:

One moderately successful novelist figured out that by playing the various SJW cards he could make himself more popular and build a little following for his books. His only regret is probably not realizing back in the difficult high school days just how gullible so many people are. Meds? Not this one. Con men don't need meds.

Then there's the young guy with so many issues that he not only dresses up as a woman, but as a matronly woman. We'll leave it for someone in his family to unpack that mess. He constantly play-acts as if he is The True Supporter of various minorities etc and always tries to be on the attack of high profile enemies like VD in obvious constant fear of being singled out and ostracized by the rest of his group. Meds? It wouldn't be a surprise if he's been on 15 different meds over the last 3 or 4 years.

Then there's SuperCreep, the faux-intellectual. He's smart enough to see ahead and realize he stands no chance in a debate-type disagreement with VD. He quickly realized he'd either end up publicly agreeing with VD or looking like a fool who can't hold an argument. Either result is bad. That's why the switch to personal attacks and constant re-framing of VD's views. Quite full of himself, but long-time observers here have enough experience to have patience to wait for the coming implosion. Acts as if he cares about various minorities or "oppressed" groups but we get the creeped-out feeling he might only have preferences about what their flesh tastes like. Think PZ Myers on Leuprorelin. Is the beard a tribute to Samuel Delany? [shudder]

Blogger Carl Philipp August 30, 2015 8:09 PM  

@1

People who break the Ninth Commandment en masse don't get the excuse of good intentions.

Maybe they started their pursuit of Social Justice with good intentions.

Not anymore.

Anonymous zen0 the Ephemeral August 30, 2015 8:26 PM  

@28 rienzi

I liked her description of the opposition as "social justice monkeys". It fits so much better than "warriors", as all they do is howl as a group, and fling poo.

I am thinking "Chimps" is better. Monkeys cover a broader spectrum. Chimps are always clowns. Irrational, aggressive, & ugly.

Blogger JWM August 30, 2015 8:50 PM  

@51 Mr. Rational
I hope you're right about seeing Space X get an astronaut to the ISS. But, as you noted, we had the technology to get to the moon and back when calculations were still done with slide rules. The engineering isn't where the magic lives or dies. The magic lives in the will to do spectacular things. That's what has been lost. Not long ago, here in Los Angeles everyone was just ecstatic about getting a retired space shuttle for the local museum. Think of that as the opening chapter of a dystopian science fiction novel. People were glad to see that we had shelved space travel, and moved on to other, more politically expedient goals. Now the nation could do truly inspirational things: Combating global warming. Total surveillance of each individual. Universal health care. Civil rights for the LGBTXYZ...
What does this nation do now that inspires anything like a sense of wonder and awe? Maybe phone apps.
To quote Leonard Cohen:
"Give me back the Berlin Wall.
Give me Stalin and Saint Paul.
I've seen the future, brother-
It is murder

JWM

OpenID corvinus333 August 30, 2015 8:55 PM  

VD:

One minor edit you should probably make to "SJWs Always Lie": At one point you mention Mel Gibson's Passion of the Christ movie, but you accidentally called it "Temptation of Christ", which sounds like the blasphemous Scorsese movie "Last Temptation of Christ".

Anonymous The other robot August 30, 2015 9:09 PM  

The "parody" sometimes known as John Scalzi Is Not A Very Popular Author And I Myself Am Quite Popular: How SJWs Always Lie About Our Comparative Popularity Levels is rapidly falling in popularity, and now at 2,235 and falling.

Blogger Were-Puppy August 30, 2015 9:10 PM  

@45 byronfrombyron

Regarding the Hugos, we are seeing some of the true results: More puppies of all types, more people being exposed to the war in the first place, and more books that are actually worth reading.
---------------

Yay, this is good. I have seen a lot of wandering puppies joining in the fun at Monster Hunter Nation, and now I'm seeing wandering puppies appearing here. It's great.

I think there is a general realization among most people that there is something really screwed up, and not just from Gamergate and our Puppies.

People are still steamed about what happened to Paula Dean.

People are still steamed about the Confederate flag.

Forcing people to supply pizza or cake for gay weddings.

The black lives matter where criminals are much more valuable than victims.

So as the Puppys are engaging in the battle, many people I explain it to are happy to hear that somewhere, anywhere, there are people fighting back.

Anonymous zen0 the Ephemeral August 30, 2015 10:39 PM  

Forcing people to supply pizza or cake for gay weddings.

There should be a guerrilla squad that track the cakes and arrives just in time to insert a giant turd into the cake just before it is cut.

Don't thank me. Just do it.

Anonymous Mr. Rational August 30, 2015 10:59 PM  

@65 You might not actually disappoint anyone if you do; I'm told coprophagy is very prevalent among that "demographic".

This makes them very effective vectors for a number of nasty diseases.  One more reason for them to be shoved back into the closet.

Blogger Carl Philipp August 31, 2015 12:30 AM  

First line of a fire-star review:

"Unlike some reviewers, who apparently haven't read the book, I got ripped off! There was only one chapter 5 in my copy."

Lol.

Anonymous Jack Amok August 31, 2015 1:27 AM  

"Unlike some reviewers, who apparently haven't read the book, I got ripped off! There was only one chapter 5 in my copy."

Vox should make a running joke of having two chapter 5's in every book.

Blogger Shimshon August 31, 2015 3:55 AM  

@52 Ain

"As we've come to find out, it's not about the subject, it's about finding a target they believe to be vulnerable, and taking it out. The accusation is just the vehicle to arrive where they want to go. Sometimes the SJW herself even knows it's fabricated bullshit, but they see it as a way to promote themselves."

Agreed. I pointed out the recent discovery of Paul Lutus. As the author of Apple Writer, he does deserve some note, but is otherwise extremely obscure except to retrocomputing fans. You'd have to be a real nut to even know or care about his stance on psychology (or whatever triggered the SJW freak-out). In his case, even without SJW Always Lie, he was smart enough to Not Care, and simply supported the removal of the Wikipedia article on him rather than it remaining and serving as a forum to attack him.

Anonymous Discard August 31, 2015 4:51 AM  

If you joined the Communist Party in 1917 you may have had good intentions. If you joined the Communists in 1949, you probably did not. Analogously, SJWs cannot claim at this point that they don't know the damage they do. No excuses, scum.

Anonymous Discard August 31, 2015 5:00 AM  

Regarding the discovery that you're not the only one seeing what's going on: Google Solomon Asch and his conformity experiments.
Very few normal people want to stand all alone. It makes them doubt their own senses. But just one other person willing to confirm their opinion can give them the courage to speak the truth.

Blogger Carl Philipp August 31, 2015 5:10 PM  

I would just like to note that this quote:

"Think about how little you cared when someone else was previously being attacked by SJWs and how little you did to support them, let alone take action to stop the attack. That's exactly how much your colleagues and acquaintances care about you being attacked, and exactly how much they are going to do to stop it."

more than any other in the book, came like a punch to the throat.
For reasons twofold:
1) It is imperative that I take responsibility for my own preparedness. I must not cowardlily sit on the sidelines crossing my fingers, hoping that if I avoid saying anything controversial, the Angel of SJW will pass by my door.
2) Next time the SJWs attack, I must not sit idly by. I've lost SJW friends by standing up for the truth, and it cowed me. No longer, if I am a man.

Thanks. I needed that.

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