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Monday, August 31, 2015

"one of the most important books you will read"

Chris Nuttall, an Amazon Top 100 author and contributor to Riding the Red Horse, reviews SJWs Always Lie: Taking Down the Thought Police:
In the current climate this book may have a fair claim to being one of the most important books you will read. It is no surprise, therefore, that most of the one-star reviews on Amazon are insults directed at Vox Day personally, rather than the book itself. The unspoken intention is to mock the messenger, thus discrediting the message.

Read this book. You may hate it, but at least you will have the pleasure of knowing you made up your own mind.

One of the most heartbreaking stories to come out of the Soviet Union came from a man who’d been sentenced to the gulag (prison camp for dissidents); he asked himself, afterwards, why he hadn’t fought or run when the police came for him. He just sat in his house and awaited his fate. The answer, of course, is quite simple. The USSR was a prison camp above ground (and a mass grave below); the inmates – sorry, the population – were conditioned not to resist authority, even when authority was brutal, capricious, untrustworthy and quite thoroughly hypocritical.

Many people will say ‘it can’t happen here.’ But it can and it does.

Our society is under attack by Social Justice Warriors (or, as I prefer to think of them, Social Justice Bullies). They have, as Day points out, become the new thought police. Tell an off-colour joke? Lose your job, reputation and perhaps even your life. Disagree with the prevailing orthodoxy? Get harried into silence and then buried below a wave of focused scorn and contempt. Question the claims to victimhood of the aristocracy of victimhood? Get called a racist, sexist, homophobe, etc.
I think Chris is correct to point out that the choice of the SJW used as the example demonstrating the Three Laws of SJW can be seen as a weakness, but the fact is that there is no other SJW whose lies I know as well, that I can refute in such documented detail, as those told by that particular SJW. It is precisely because I have been in direct conflict with the man for the 10 years since he started attacking me that I have so much information on hand about his lying, his doubling down, and his psychological projecting.

As for the other weakness Chris mentioned, which is to say that he wanted to go deeper into the belly of the beast, that is easily rectified. As I mentioned to Spacebunny this morning, I now know what will be my next book project after I complete A Sea of Skulls.

Professor Nick Flor of the University of New Mexico called it The Art of War for the Digital Media Generation and even provided a brief review in a series of tweets:
Prof. Nick Flor ‏@ProfessorF
Okay, so you can probably tell from my Kindle Tweets that I thought @VoxDay's book "SJWs ALWAYS Lie" was superb. 5/5 stars

Prof. Nick Flor ‏@ProfessorFSJWinguts are EVERYWHERE—  @voxday's book teaches you how to recognize & effectively neutralize them. Must read.

Prof. Nick Flor ‏@ProfessorF
Man it's tough to do a 140-character review. The book is like the Art of War, except for the Digital Media Generation.

Prof. Nick Flor ‏@ProfessorFI really enjoyed the GG chapter and I finally understand Literally Who, Literally Who 2, and Literally Wu.

Prof. Nick Flor ‏@ProfessorFHe does a great job of putting everything in context, and it really makes you feel good about everything #GamerGate has accomplished.

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46 Comments:

Blogger Nate August 31, 2015 8:10 AM  

"As I mentioned to Spacebunny this morning, I now know what will be my next book project after I complete A Sea of Skulls."

Dammit Vox...

Look... You're better at Space Opera ok? Accept it. More QM. MOAR QM!

Blogger Shimshon August 31, 2015 8:13 AM  

Guerre Digita

Anonymous PA August 31, 2015 8:17 AM  

Another good name for those scumbags is the Steve Sailer-coined "volunteer auxiliary thought police."

Blogger VFM bot #188 August 31, 2015 8:26 AM  

"The Art of War for the digital generation"? Holy crap, e've got a potential game-changer here, a classic, a Little Red Book, a Rules for Radicals for the defenders of Civilization.

Time to go on the warpath and strike back in defense. Not a moment too soon either.

Blogger James Dixon August 31, 2015 8:28 AM  

It looks like the one star reviews on Amazon have tailed off. I don't know if they've given up or if Amazon is policing the reviews.

Anonymous PhillipGeorge©2015 August 31, 2015 8:41 AM  

It was important to me that Solzhenitsyn died in Russia.
Seems nothing is ever as deadly as delusions of moral adequacy, and he could see where the pendulum was inevitably swinging.
All religions scientism to communism to muhammadism, whatever, stink to the yawning mouth of Hell on Earth without actual an God given holiness to light a society.
Beforeitsnews, this very minute, is running an article on one of the most grotesque human experiments, it seems, in post medieval history. Evil has a lot of faces. There's not much to a human soul without a touch from eternal life's only author.
there's only one salvation but full marks for pointing out the circling sharks. Well done.

Blogger Cail Corishev August 31, 2015 8:46 AM  

the Steve Sailer-coined "volunteer auxiliary thought police."

Steve is awesome, but he's too nice sometimes.

If someone thinks there's a better term than "SJW," there's an easy test he can do. Come up with a different term, go use it a lot, and see whether SJWs react as strongly to it as they have to "SJW." Let their butthurt be your guide.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 31, 2015 8:55 AM  

Prof Flor must be behind the Iron Wall of Tenure.

Here is an idea for the SJW in tech, the Social Justice Ap which will police texts, tweets and other messaging like a spell check. I think AAPL should lead the way, well because Tim Cook is gay and hates deniers.

Anonymous jSinSaTx August 31, 2015 8:59 AM  

I concur. Big fan of QM.

Anonymous Tom August 31, 2015 9:38 AM  

@1

Nate's right. As much as I love the Selenoth stuff, your QM stuff is absolutely terrific. I have a lot more buy in for Baby and the rest of the characters there than for any of the folks in Selenoth. Well, except for elf sorcerer Christian from Opera Vita Aeterna. He's really interesting, but mostly in a mysterious sort of way, not like the QM characters where you know them and like them.

Hey Nate, what to read my novel and tell me if it sucks or not? You seem like an opinionated sort...

Anonymous Tom August 31, 2015 9:43 AM  

@7

Someone was discussing the book somewhere, and I saw them use a phrase like "poo flung by social justice monkeys." I liked it a lot, but I doubt it would have the same ironic brutality of "warriors."

Calling the conflict phobic, physically unimpressive (not that I'm in shape myself), bravery impaired, status obsessed individuals "warriors" is just painfully apt.

Anonymous al August 31, 2015 9:44 AM  

I'm a fan of Nuttall's work. I have been for years, reading what he puts up on the Bar.

Given his (occasional) activity on the Bar (in the Kratskellar particularly), and the spoonfuls of commentary that he inserts into his works (with a degree of skill, I might add, but he's not up the the standard of Kratman in this regard), particularly "Empire's Corps"...

I find myself not greatly surprised

I do, however, find myself a little impressed with how succinctly his post was written

Blogger darkdoc August 31, 2015 9:45 AM  

Our society is under attack by Social Justice Warriors (or, as I prefer to think of them, Social Justice Bullies).

I prefer Social Justice Wankers, but in the end, all the labels have truth.

Anonymous 334 August 31, 2015 9:46 AM  

@10.

It's probably just a genre preference thing, but I love Vox's epic sword and sorcery stuff and can't wait for Sea of Skulls. I find many of the Selenoth characters relatable and well-drawn. Now I do enjoy the QM universe too, but it doesn't hit me quite the same way, maybe because, as Nate says, it's "space opera".

Anonymous The Original Arrogant Steelers Fan August 31, 2015 9:52 AM  

@13 darkdoc

I don't necessarily like the term "Social Justice Warriors" either as the word "Warrior" almost implies that they have some level of courage or virtue.

"Social Justice Weasels" is my suggestion as we could still at least retain the acronym.

Blogger Nate August 31, 2015 9:54 AM  

"Hey Nate, what to read my novel and tell me if it sucks or not? You seem like an opinionated sort..."

Me? Opinionated? why... what ever would make you says such a thing...

I'd love to read it mate. you can email it to me bloggerblaster@gmail.com

Anonymous The other robot August 31, 2015 9:54 AM  

Social Justice Worriers

Blogger Harsh August 31, 2015 9:55 AM  

I don't necessarily like the term "Social Justice Warriors" either as the word "Warrior" almost implies that they have some level of courage or virtue.

As has been pointed out before we use the term because a) the "warrior" part is said in irony and b) the SJWs hate when we call them SJWs so the term is a useful weapon.

Blogger Nate August 31, 2015 9:55 AM  

"It's probably just a genre preference thing, but I love Vox's epic sword and sorcery stuff and can't wait for Sea of Skulls. I find many of the Selenoth characters relatable and well-drawn"

Vox is a tech guy writing about stuff he knows a great deal about. Plus... its gun porn (and at least once.. quite memorably.. knife porn)... and he's a gun guy. All of that comes through in spades in QM.

Anonymous The other robot August 31, 2015 10:00 AM  

The SJWs have shown that they have no staying power:

3700 and falling.

Anonymous The Original Arrogant Steelers Fan August 31, 2015 10:02 AM  

@18

No shit, Sherlock? The point is, I don't necessarily agree.

Blogger Miss Carnivorous August 31, 2015 10:03 AM  

A woman slashed open the throat of another woman in a Shaw's supermarket in Maine. Turns out the murderess is "transitioning" so the papers have printed retractions to the original story that stated she was a woman. Our bad, the retractions state, she is unequivocally a man!

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/article31561772.html

Anonymous Holmwood August 31, 2015 10:03 AM  

James Dixon said: It looks like the one star reviews on Amazon have tailed off. I don't know if they've given up or if Amazon is policing the reviews.

I suspect the former. Sales of the parody (which were impressively high considering its weakness) appear to have tapered off.

Scalzi did a good job on the audiobook. If I were remaking Fritz Lang's classic M as an audio play on a budget, I'd look seriously at casting Scalzi in the starring role, especially if Jim Hines were unavailable.

Anonymous Tom August 31, 2015 10:04 AM  

@14

I actually much prefer sword and sorcery actually. That's genre of the novel I'm getting ready to try to publish. But, there was just something that clicked more for me in the QM writing than in Selenoth. Maybe it was the size of the cast of characters and the amount of time you got to spend in their heads. Maybe it was because the main QM character is such a hopeless Romantic. I don't know.

Don't get me wrong, I really liked all the Selenoth stuff. I think I've read ever bit of it. I'm looking forward to Sea of Skullzzz. Wish I had time to re-read the old stuff. Maybe it is just because I've read all the QM stuff more recently that they are fresher in my mind.

I think that SciFi allows for a different tone and whole different set of jokes and such. I've noticed writing a fantasy novel that I've had to be very careful of idioms, turns of phrase, and ideas that shouldn't exist in the world. I'm sure I've missed some. But, I think some aspects of writing probably flow a lot easier in a setting where you don't have to be so careful with words and images.

Anonymous bgs August 31, 2015 10:26 AM  

I usually go with Social Justice Worriers or Whoriers.

SJWs react as strongly to it as they have to "SJW." Let their butthurt be your guide.

They embrace being called cucks.

well because Tim Cook is gay and hates deniers.

Martha Stewart went to jail over an email from her wall street boyfriend she didn't act on but Timmy http://realmoney.thestreet.com/articles/08/24/2015/why-tim-cooks-email-jim-cramer-should-worry-apple-investors

A woman slashed open the throat of another woman in a Shaw's supermarket in Maine

Its a bad week to be in socialist super markets. 75 injured here http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/venezuela/11832443/Woman-80-trampled-to-death-in-Venezuelan-supermarket-stampede.html

Blogger Harsh August 31, 2015 10:33 AM  

No shit, Sherlock? The point is, I don't necessarily agree.

I understood your point. I was making the point that your point is irrelevant.

Blogger Quadko August 31, 2015 10:57 AM  

@24 prefer sword and sorcery...QM
Hear, hear! I used to think it was because Fantasy was more about people and psychology of success, where SciFi was either about technology or secular Utopias, but now I think SF was just ruined by what we're calling "message fiction." Fun adventures are just that, Star Wars to Conan to "That Buck Rogers Stuff." Communal utopias of the perfectible human are just boring and unrealistic if set in ancient Greece or future Tau Ceti. So, more QM and the like!

This month I discovered and am reading through James White's Sector General - very fun alien medical SciFi.

Anonymous 334 August 31, 2015 11:09 AM  

@19. Nate

Vox is a tech guy writing about stuff he knows a great deal about. Plus... its gun porn (and at least once.. quite memorably.. knife porn)... and he's a gun guy. All of that comes through in spades in QM.

Agreed, and I can see the appeal for gun guys and tech guys. But Vox also reads people very well (which, I suspect, is why his enemies are so perpetually pissed and can't stop tilting at the windmill) and writes them believably. I find most of the admittedly large Selenoth cast memorable and real.

Blogger Were-Puppy August 31, 2015 11:20 AM  

If it's S&S, I will have to check it out.

It's also kind of interesting if you look at REH Conan tales, and see an over riding theme of barbarism vs civilization. And the corruptions of the civilizations making their populations weak and easy fodder for invaders.

Anonymous Jack Amok August 31, 2015 11:38 AM  

As has been pointed out before we use the term because a) the "warrior" part is said in irony and b) the SJWs hate when we call them SJWs so the term is a useful weapon.

Even better is that they called themselves SJWs first, and we just coopted their own term. SJWs always lie, and they lied when they started calling themselves SJWs. They're anti-social, injust, and cowardly.

Plus, everyone knows what sort of person you're talking about when you say "Social Justice Warrior."

Blogger Markku August 31, 2015 11:56 AM  

It's stings more when you don't have to even disparage them with the word, you can just say "warrior" and expect everyone to see the comedy; the contrast with that to what they actually are like.

If you have to disparage them, that's try-hard. It implies that they are a worthy enemy. That you have to belabor the point, because the average person might actually mistake them for legitimate warriors if you used that word.

Blogger Markku August 31, 2015 11:58 AM  

I've been bullied, I know what stings.

What stings is when people put you in your place effortlessly, without even trying. When they have to try, you know that you are already one tier higher. You are starting to be a threat to someone.

Blogger RobertT August 31, 2015 12:15 PM  

Something else about SJWs, Maybe this is in the book. I haven't read it yet. SJWs think they're in the majority, which gives them the courage to throw up a storm of indignation. As Nuttal's story suggests, they expect you to wither in the onslaught.. When they run up against someone like you or Trump, they don't know what to do. It turns their world upside down. You can see it in the political elite's bewilderment to Trump's success or their reaction to the recent Hugo results. They make something up to straighten their world out again. That makes them particularly vulnerable. Right or wrong ... that's my take.

Right now with you and Trump, they're basically doomed. If they don't own public opinion, they have nowhere to go. They don't have the gonads for a fight. They expect the chattering crowd to do their fighting for them.

Blogger Salt August 31, 2015 12:24 PM  

Even better is that they called themselves SJWs first, and we just coopted their own term. SJWs always lie

They'll keep trying to get us to change our slur of them. When they do, increase the font size and make it BOLD.

Blogger darkdoc August 31, 2015 12:35 PM  

Words and names are important.

Like for instance, the SJW's and leftists don't like the title "anchor baby".

I imagine they prefer "anchor fetus" or "qualifying cell clump". We need to be sensitive.

Blogger Salt August 31, 2015 12:42 PM  

SJW's and leftists don't like the title "anchor baby". I imagine they prefer "anchor fetus" or "qualifying cell clump".

I'm posting that to Twitter.

Blogger VD August 31, 2015 12:43 PM  

Even better is that they called themselves SJWs first, and we just coopted their own term. SJWs always lie

All ur hashtags are belong to us.

Blogger Allan Davis August 31, 2015 12:44 PM  

RobertT, I'd add that they think they are *right*. They have "history on their side." They've won every skirmish for the last thirty years, so their ultimate victory is "obviously" pre-ordained. It's only when they hit a roadblock like Vox or Trump that they screech to a halt, look right and left, and realize there are only half a dozen of them leading the charge...

-=ad=-

Blogger Robert What? August 31, 2015 12:52 PM  

"Did you read Vox's book?"

"No. And I hated it."

Anonymous Peter #0231 August 31, 2015 1:04 PM  

Did y'all notice the appearance of Randi Harper in the comments under Alexandra Erin's "review"? Maybe it's just physics: the gravitational attraction of two massive objects :)

Blogger Danby August 31, 2015 1:10 PM  

@6 PhillipGeorge
Beforeitsnews? Really?
iId never heard of it before, so I checked it out.
Seems Spetznatz is setting forest fires in Washington, and positioning their heavy armor in Tennessee. And the Virginia news shooting was a Jesuit plot. Who knew?

Oh, I see the Great Tribulation will start on Sept 23! good to know! Takes a lot of the uncertainty out of life, knowing stuff like that.

Anonymous Forrest Bishop VFM #0167 August 31, 2015 1:18 PM  

@7. Cail Corishev August 31, 2015 8:46 AM

If someone thinks there's a better term than "SJW," there's an easy test he can do. Come up with a different term, go use it a lot, and see whether SJWs react as strongly to it as they have to "SJW."

repeat comment with edit-
1. The best propaganda keeps the message simple and repeats it over and over. (I'm using "propaganda" in its original sense, without positive or negative connotation.) Repeat after me:

SJWs Always Lie
SJWs Always Lie
SJWs Always Lie

2. SJWs invented this term to describe themselves. Scalzi, for one example, calls himself "a social justice warrior". We are turning their own recognizable weapon against them. Using "SJW" shoots the missile right back into their own camp.

3. Brand recognition: Social Justice Warrior. There are now even University courses called "Social Justice Studies" or something. Nike uses the swoop, Apple uses the apple, etc. SJW is a market tested and known quantity. "New" actually doesn't mean "better".

4. There are neutrals- the silent majority- caught in the middle of this. "SJW" identifies and isolates the target, as per Alinsky, and gives the neutral a way of distancing themselves from it. (No, an SJW is not necessarily a gamma.)

5. Most importantly, adding in new terms confuses and dilutes the message of the original propaganda. It is like introducing a new species to an existing ecosystem: that always ends badly. The ecosystem can only support so many organisms, so too can the mind only hold so many thoughts. Look where your allies are shooting and shoot in the same direction. Use the same caliber of ammo as they do, the one the SEOs pick up.

Anonymous Forrest Bishop VFM #0167 August 31, 2015 1:39 PM  

@42. Forrest Bishop VFM #0167

3. Brand recognition: Social Justice Warrior. Nike uses the swoop, Apple uses the apple, etc.

The forked-tongue smiley face is a terrific logo. It makes you do a double take. It is as recognizable as the apple with the bite taken out of it. Both of those logos evoke a story, the Tree of Knowledge in Apple's case, smiling liars in SJWAL case. (Reminds me of an old Temptations song about "Smiling faces show no traces of the evil that lurks within.") The SJWAL logo would make a great sticker for all sorts of products and uses...

Anonymous Rolf August 31, 2015 6:45 PM  

Over a hundred reviews, already, 78% are 5-star. Wow.

Blogger SirHamster (#201) August 31, 2015 9:37 PM  

Over a hundred reviews, already, 78% are 5-star. Wow.

Pffth. 80% 5 star reviews for the alternative.

Interesting enough, despite that higher raw score, it only gets 4.4 stars, compared to 4.5 stars for SJWAL. Some sort of weighting for all the joke reviews, apparently.

Anonymous Forrest Bishop VFM #0167 August 31, 2015 11:50 PM  

Anybody else having trouble reading the comments? I tried a couple different browsers, got the same result.

clicking on "See all 110 customer reviews (newest first) " goes to-
http://www.amazon.com/SJWs-Always-Lie-Taking-Thought-ebook/product-reviews/B014GMBUR4/ref=cm_cr_dp_see_all_btm/181-1518331-8593923?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending

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