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Thursday, August 20, 2015

Race is in the politics of the beholder

This makes for a fascinating juxstaposition. One of the nastiest SJWs at File 770 is actually dumb enough to try to play race police:
Aaron on August 19, 2015 at 5:48 pm said:
Also the comment that the Pups are led by “a latino, a white, and an indian”. They keep pushing that line of bullshit like they think it will convince anyone outside their little circle-jerk.
I have to admit, it's a line of argument I'd never considered. If I was Aaron, I would simply explain to critics that my "half-savage" remark about N.K. Jemisin could not possibly be considered racist because she is not black.

I have asked Mike Glyer to warn Aaron about his race-policing lies because "that line of bullshit" happens to be absolutely true. I am without question an American Indian. I have the family tree, the DNA results, and the tribal connections to prove it beyond any shadow of a doubt. I am not a one-sixteenth Cherokee princess, as the New Republic's Jeet Heer and others have suggested.

Larry Correia is Portuguese, concerning which "Brazilians, who do not speak Spanish, are Latinos, but Portuguese who share the Iberian Peninsula with Spain may not want to be called “Latino” or “Hispanic.” And the U.S. Department of Labor also allows people to self-designate as a Hispanic, if they are Portuguese, and it cannot be contested." 

So, our racial affiliations are being denied by self-appointed race police even as another fake African-American SJW has been unmasked, this time by Milo.
International media went nuts today when Breitbart revealed evidence suggesting that prominent Black Lives Matter activist Shaun King is in fact white — and that, when challenged, King did nothing to deny the allegations that he is Caucasian.

Over a hundred media outlets from all over the world, including the Daily Mail, the Daily Beast, the New York Daily News, Salon, Sky News and the New York Post, covered our explosive scoop, which also alleged that King misled media mogul Oprah Winfrey by applying for and accepting an “Oprah scholarship” to historically black Morehouse College.
My favorite response is the ridiculous defense offered by vox.com, which is that race "isn't derived by biology":
A person’s race isn’t derived by biology; it is instead set by society and a person’s own identity. As Jenée Desmond-Harris previously explained for Vox, Americans embraced the concept of race to justify treating some people better than others. And since race is arbitrary, different people can genuinely disagree over who counts as white, black, brown, or any other racial identity.... Although race may have no biological basis, social perceptions of race play a huge role in people’s lives — and could impact King’s place in the Black Lives Matter movement.
Remember, SJWs not only think they're morally superior to you, but they're smarter and better-educated too. In fact, they're delusional and operating in complete defiance of history, science and observable reality.

UPDATE: There goes the SJW Narrative. Again:
Shaun KingDuring a segment on #BlackLivesMatters activist Shaun King and the allegation he isn’t black at all, CNN host Don Lemon revealed that he had spoken to a family member of King’s who confirmed he was white. “A family member tells CNN that both of King’s parents are white,”Lemon said on Wednesday night’s edition of CNN 
Go ahead and talk to my family members about whether I'm Indian and Mexican. Hell, you won't even have to talk to them. 

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106 Comments:

Anonymous Stingray August 20, 2015 8:08 AM  

A person’s race isn’t derived by biology; it is instead set by society and a person’s own identity.

This can't possibly come back to bite them in the ass. Their hubris is showing.

Good.

Anonymous Steve August 20, 2015 8:10 AM  

A person’s race isn’t derived by biology

Cool.

I'm Japanese then.

Not the body pillow-humping, panty-wearing, anime-watching herbivore type. The samurai sword-wielding, prisoner of war beheading, Manchuria-raping kind.

Banzai!

Blogger dc.sunsets August 20, 2015 8:14 AM  

Gibsmedats for ALL!!

Anonymous MrGreenMan August 20, 2015 8:15 AM  

Two people of the same race can conceive and give birth to a child, and that child can have a different race? This is so much fun. My OQ (oppression quotient) is higher than all of yours! You must listen to me! I say so!

Anonymous Steve August 20, 2015 8:15 AM  

Japasteve

Blogger Student in Blue August 20, 2015 8:17 AM  

Japasteve #2

Blogger dc.sunsets August 20, 2015 8:18 AM  

The odds of "race is set...by a person's own identity" showing up in case law are zero Kelvin.

The Left's original argument is that all are equal (in the subset of attributes about which they care.) This clown occupies the earlier part of the blast wave as they hoist on their own petard (finally.)

These people lack an appreciation for the term, "mutually exclusive."

Blogger Nate August 20, 2015 8:20 AM  

Hair color is social construct!

Blogger JP August 20, 2015 8:26 AM  

That's the gender-as-social-construct argument but with gender find-and-replaced with race. Do these fuckheads have a generic statement template that they just fill in with keywords as needed?

Blogger Stilicho #0066 August 20, 2015 8:26 AM  

Gingervitis denier!

Blogger Stilicho #0066 August 20, 2015 8:28 AM  

@JP: fadlibs?

Anonymous drose August 20, 2015 8:33 AM  

I have always thought that somone could create a pretty lucrative business by providing providing the appropriate documentation and evidence of one's membership to a minority group. Mr. King and Mrs. Dolezal have shown that once someone gets a foot in the door, their ethnic identity won't be questioned. Helping Whitey get in on some affirmative action (i. e. the movie Soul Man )could make someone rich.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2zMrjBLwn8

Blogger Student in Blue August 20, 2015 8:35 AM  

Hair color is social construct!

...isn't that why they say they dye their hair hideous colors, to make a "social commentary"?

I think you just got a free twofer.

Anonymous Steve August 20, 2015 8:35 AM  

Student in Blue - That's Lacist.

Blogger Nate August 20, 2015 8:38 AM  

"Gingervitis denier!"

as a day walker... I'm like a mutt ginger.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 20, 2015 8:40 AM  

Do these fuckheads have a generic statement template that they just fill in with keywords as needed?

For the post-modernist, isn't this implied?

Anonymous PhillipGeorge©2015 August 20, 2015 8:48 AM  

We're all turning Japanese, at least I think so.

Vox, there's been thirty years nearly to the day of deafening silence about the science of Mitochondrial DNA. At unchallenged face level is this nagging finding that everyone on earth passed through the same one vagina, in unquestionably recent history, relative to what they want to assume as genetic drift rates/ entropic decay.

Rupert Sheldrake tried to explain that science isn't anything like settled materialism in a book called the Science Delusion. SJW's are bad on every level. Biology, sociology, anthropology, politics, economics and literature. Though let's admit them a foot in the door for pure comedy/ just keep the kitchen knives behind child proof latches. cheers.

Anonymous old man in a villa August 20, 2015 9:02 AM  

" Although race may have no biological basis..."

No linky, you stinky.

Blogger Student in Blue August 20, 2015 9:04 AM  

@Steve
Ken-sama is a modern-day samurai and savior of us all. He gallantly sacrificed himself so that we wouldn't be killed by the tsunami. Thank you, Ken-sama. o7

Anonymous joe doakes August 20, 2015 9:04 AM  

"Set by . . . a person's own identity." They just endorsed #wrongskin!

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 20, 2015 9:06 AM  

The wonderful US government has racial classifications for every damn form it seems, even the 4473 of all things. I certainly hope the intellectuals at that website continue with their racial theorizing how enlightening.

Anonymous Quartermaster August 20, 2015 9:07 AM  

A person's race can be determined from their bone structure and DNA. People who say race doesn't exist are worse than stupid.

The science is settled.

Blogger Cail Corishev August 20, 2015 9:08 AM  

"Race is a social construct! Wait, you're not allowed to construct yours!"

Anonymous Athor Pel August 20, 2015 9:09 AM  

Once nanotechnology advances far enough it will be possible to control the cells that produce melanin in your skin. You can be whatever color you want to be. Hey, I read it in a sci fi novel, it's bound to come true.

Since you can be coal black if you want even if you're from Ireland the opportunities for black knighting will be legion.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer August 20, 2015 9:14 AM  

Vox, you know perfectly well that the fact that Larry and you are actually descended from actual minorities is irrelevant to the SJWs.

When they say that race is socially constructed what they actually mean is that members of minorities must conform to the SJWs provincial, and mostly very racist, view of them.

If they don't how will the SJWs derive self-esteem and reinforce their own self-righteousness by "rescuing" them.

You and Larry aren't Latino or Indian by definition. Cause you got the false-consciousness.

Anonymous Peter Garstig August 20, 2015 9:16 AM  

A person’s race isn’t derived by biology; it is instead set by society and a person’s own identity.

What a great black knighting opportunity. Identify as minority and reap all the benefits.

On the other hand, I wonder why all those people of color don't self-identify as white and get 'white privilege' for free.

Blogger paradox August 20, 2015 9:17 AM  

From the 2010 census.

"Hispanic or Latino” refers to a person of Cuban, Mexican, Puerto Rican, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin regardless of race."

My grandfather was born in Cuba, to white Americans, and had to become a naturalized citizen. So if race isn't part of the definition, I'm Hispanic.

Blogger Steveo #238 August 20, 2015 9:19 AM  

Race is a malleable and temporary assignment granted by social cowards and leftists when sufficient ideological motivation may be discerned; often initially granted by skin color and other racial features - though it may be quickly revoked for clear and honest thinking.

Blogger Student in Blue August 20, 2015 9:19 AM  

On the other hand, I wonder why all those people of color don't self-identify as white and get 'white privilege' for free.

Cuz white people is so raciss and evil that it wouldn't work. They'd keep trying to point out things like "facts", "evidence" and "biology" which are actually racist dogwhistles that blah blah blah blah.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus August 20, 2015 9:21 AM  

Remember, the SJWs are the same people who believe Rachel Dolazel is black. For them, "race" is a social construct that can be redefined at will.

Anonymous awegawe August 20, 2015 9:23 AM  

"A person’s race isn’t derived by biology"

Ergo, Godfrey Elfwick is black.

Blogger bearspaw August 20, 2015 9:27 AM  

There is a pretty straight line between Alchemy, snake oil and the likes of Shaun King, rape hoaxers et.al.

Anonymous Mike M. August 20, 2015 9:29 AM  

@26 - They can.

I'm quite serious. Anyone who behaves in a civil manner, and deals with his neighbors honestly, will prosper in the United States. Race is not nearly as important as attitude.

Blogger Cail Corishev August 20, 2015 9:30 AM  

Remember, the SJWs are the same people who believe Rachel Dolazel is black.

Well, in theory, they've always argued that someone like her would be black. But in reality, a genetically white woman getting what they think of as a black woman's job (and a black woman's husband), just because she grew up with black siblings and lived in black culture and made a career of black causes and considers herself black, really pisses them off. They can't say exactly why it pisses them off, of course, so they just hate her a lot.

Blogger Cail Corishev August 20, 2015 9:38 AM  

"Race is a social construct" was never supposed to mean anything more than, "Stop being proud of your people. You're not all that." If they'd actually believed it, SJWs would have been leading the charge against race-based hiring and scholarships, after all. But some people like Dolezal actually bought into it and played it straight, and now the SJWs hate them twice as much for making them look stupid.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer August 20, 2015 9:46 AM  

For any black (or should I say People of Color) SJWs reading this remember, when a white SJW says that "race is a social construct" what he actually means is that white people can pretend to be People of Color and reap the benefits, without suffering any of the actual drawbacks.

All it takes is a bad perm and putting on blackface.

http://askkissy.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Rachel-dolezal.png

Blogger Harsh August 20, 2015 9:47 AM  

A person’s race isn’t derived by biology; it is instead set by society and a person’s own identity.

Great. A million geeks just decided that they're Klingon. Great going, SJWs!

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer August 20, 2015 9:49 AM  

And women of color, how do you feel about this?

http://rollingout.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/rachel-dolezal-wedding.jpg?769134

Anonymous Salt August 20, 2015 10:02 AM  

White privilege is a raciss social construct.

Blogger Nate August 20, 2015 10:15 AM  

Race is a code word for "agrees with me and is therefore special protected"?

Anonymous 224 August 20, 2015 10:16 AM  

"A person’s race isn’t derived by biology"

It's chosen by than individual and therefore should not be protected or given special consideration. It's simply a set of chosen behaviors and can be discriminated against much as you would someone who likes to pick their nose and wipe it on the wall etc.

Anonymous dh August 20, 2015 10:20 AM  

All it takes is a bad perm and putting on blackface.

There's a long history of people "passing" as another racial subgroup, but the Dolezal business really takes the cake. The evidence is in the hair. You simply can't get from point A to point B without fraud. It takes a massive effort to damage hair to that level and keep it up. Plus lots of spray tan.

Blogger Student in Blue August 20, 2015 10:25 AM  

There's a long history of people "passing" as another racial subgroup

Oy vey!

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 August 20, 2015 10:40 AM  

You know, this means they can't call us racist, homophobic, white bigots anymore. Because we can all just claim to be something that we're not.

Vox, you now no longer need credentials to prove you are both highly intelligent and non-white. Just say what you are and accuse those who deny it of being racist.

Because in their insane worldview, they need to prove themselves innocent of the charges of racism, homophobia, etc.

Anonymous Mr. Rational August 20, 2015 10:43 AM  

A person’s race isn’t derived by biology; it is instead set by society and a person’s own identity.

Excellent!  I now have MORE justification for self-identifying as a Black lesbian and collecting all sorts of Affirmative Action goodies.

Oh, and also making my neighborhood officially more "diverse" so AFFH has no reason to try to "fix" it.

Where's the downside?  I don't see it.

Blogger Daniel August 20, 2015 10:44 AM  

So colorblind is now a leftwing thing.

Blogger Sad Puppy August 20, 2015 10:45 AM  

When I saw this yesterday, I knew it would get a posting by Vox :P It actually had me cackle with glee. And I don't do that often.

There can be a wonderful unraveling of the yarn ball now.

Are you a white cop that killed a black thug? NOT ANYMORE, because you too can now be a black cop. Or, for a fun wrinkle, the black guy wasn't black, but a wigger.

And now, when BLM get angry that "all lives matter", we can all be black now, which in effect, makes that statement true.

All kidding aside, you would think some black folks would begin to investigate their own ranks for these infiltrating honkeys.

Blogger Noah B #120 August 20, 2015 10:46 AM  

DNA is a social construct.

Anonymous Giuseppe The Kurgan August 20, 2015 10:46 AM  

No Nate, No! You're a ginger and you just have to accept it.

Blogger Jim August 20, 2015 10:50 AM  

A person’s race isn’t derived by biology; it is instead set by society and a person’s own identity.

I always determine my race by the class first, picking based on ability modifiers, racial abilities, and even creature type.

I'm no longer allowed to be a kobold, btw.

Blogger Chiva August 20, 2015 10:52 AM  

Americans embraced the concept of race to justify treating some people better than others.

Because we have never seen this type of behavior outside of America. No, never.

Blogger jay c August 20, 2015 10:55 AM  

This reminds me of a cheezy (and thankfully short-lived) 80s scifi series in which Lou Gossett Jr plays the guardian of a young alien (the ET kind) prince in human disguise: The Powers of Matthew Star. When asked by some racist caricatures why he was with this black guy, the young alien says, "What? He's black!?"

Blogger Sad Puppy August 20, 2015 11:02 AM  

These reverse parasites are showing how far up the organizations that an SJW can infiltrate.

There is some kind of mental illness going on here. I actually once ran across this weird white kid, maybe 18 or 19 yrs old. He was convinced that he was Indian (asian). It was obvious he was beyond any reason or sense. Many years later, I wonder if he has somehow infiltrated some kind of Indian organization?

Blogger Cataline Sergius August 20, 2015 11:09 AM  

On the other hand, I wonder why all those people of color don't self-identify as white and get 'white privilege' for free.

Dude have you seen their privilege charts?

Anonymous BigGaySteve August 20, 2015 11:11 AM  

A person’s race isn’t derived by biology; it is instead set by society and a person’s own identity

I self identify as a black woman with sickle cell that needs 3+ extra weeks off a year for sickle cell crisis.

Blogger JDC August 20, 2015 11:16 AM  

A person’s race isn’t derived by biology; it is instead set by society and a person’s own identity.

And by society, the SJW means their collective. Genetics are not enough...you also have to be "down with the people."

Blogger JDC August 20, 2015 11:18 AM  

This line of reasoning worked for Michael Jackson. Not a pedophile, just another child interested in pumping other children full of Jesus juice and exploring. Nothing to see here, move along...

Anonymous George of the Jungle August 20, 2015 11:20 AM  

SJW's just loooove fucking science... except for that little DNA thingy.

These assholes get hold of a meme, and then it just morphs and morphs like topsy... (oh oh, was that racist? too bad).

And by the way, I believe I'm an Oriental woman lesbian, so that means I can have all the Oriental pussy I want.

Blogger Cataline Sergius August 20, 2015 11:27 AM  

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Blogger Cataline Sergius August 20, 2015 11:28 AM  

The Obama years have ruined what little foundation the professional grievance industry had.

A charge of racism can ruin individual lives but as a group we just don't care anymore. They've used the word racist so much that it has lost all meaning.

I knew they were in trouble when they stopped calling the Puppies, "racist" and started calling us Nazis. Not just Nazis we are Neo-Nazis. And not just Neo-Nazis but "literal Neo-Nazis."

The use of "literal" in this case being a monument to their own illiteracy.

In any case don't bother trying to make them play by their own rules. They just won't. Everything is about feelz with the new hivemind. Facts mean absolutely nothing to them at all.

It wouldn't matter in the least to them if Vox was half black and half Apache. If the the feelz are wrong, they would just chant magic social justice words at him until he turned into a White Republican.

Bottomline; don't attempt to reason with them at his point, just start insulting them.

Anonymous BGS August 20, 2015 11:34 AM  

considers herself black, really pisses them off. They can't say exactly why it pisses them off, of course, so they just hate her a lot.

She was the smartest black person the NAACP could find.

Great. A million geeks just decided that they're Klingon. Great going, SJWs

With the people against fat shaming identify as Huts and Whales?

, I wonder why all those people of color don't self-identify as white and get 'white privilege' for free.

Leftists claimed Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas, Ben Carson, & Bill Cosby are white. Well maybe not so much Cosby anymore.

Blogger Joshua Dyal August 20, 2015 11:40 AM  

SJW's just loooove fucking science... except for that little DNA thingy.

There's actually a term for that. They call it liberal creationism.

Blogger RobertT August 20, 2015 11:42 AM  

I too am American Indian (Choctaw & Cherokee). My grandmother got absentee ballots from the Choctaw Nation. I could have gone to a land grant college for free. Had I known. I ran for Congress against what was the most famous Indian ever elected to Congress. He had a snappy nickname, a white pony and wore bolo ties. There were Tibetan monks living in solitary confinement in a monastery who had heard of this guy. The funny thing is, I got reports from inside his campaign saying he didn't have an ounce of Indian blood and was in fact Portuguese. Never-the-less, the history books all say he was American Indian. Needless to say, he kicked my ass between the goal posts..

Blogger IM2L844 August 20, 2015 11:48 AM  

Generation Z is sooooo screwed.

Blogger Cail Corishev August 20, 2015 11:49 AM  

I was just in an IRC channel for an open source software project (#emacs), watching a bunch of people natter about how it's perfectly reasonable to have your Code of Conduct say that cis-normative white males aren't allowed to appeal to the Code's rules against discrimination and harassment because privilege. They've already noticed the simplest attempts at black-knighting and just ruled them out.

It seemed to be about 50/50 idiots and people talking sense -- though it's likely that every person talking was a white male -- and I don't know them well enough to know whether the idiots were people influential in the project. But this stuff is coming right out in the open now everywhere, with people saying outright, "No, you normal white guys have to bend over and take it for a while, and you'd better not object."

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 August 20, 2015 11:50 AM  

The pride of the SJW knows no bounds. They literally believe that they can change reality with their thoughts and feelings.

Even pagans had to either pray to some made-up god or perform some magical ceremony. That demonstrates just how depraved these yahoos are.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer August 20, 2015 12:05 PM  

But this stuff is coming right out in the open now everywhere, with people saying outright, "No, you normal white guys have to bend over and take it for a while, and you'd better not object."

Yeah, that's going to work out so well for the SJWs. They don't get it. This is why Trump is doing so well. People sense he is not going to just lay down and take that crap.

Anonymous oscar the grouch August 20, 2015 12:11 PM  

NPR seems to delete any comments on their story noting the races of Vox, Corriea or Torgensen's wife.

Guess it hurts their narrative.

Anonymous FP August 20, 2015 12:37 PM  

"With the people against fat shaming identify as Huts and Whales?"

You bigot! They come from a long line of husky slugs. Razza na ba doo ah gola wookie nipple pinchy!

50 Shades of Slugs: How to live with a Hutt as a coked up slave princess. Hugo Award winner 2017.

Anonymous Huckleberry August 20, 2015 12:50 PM  

White people didn't start slavery, but they finished it.
And it's been paying dividends for them ever since.

Anonymous Musashi #0350 August 20, 2015 12:58 PM  

The West's sick race-fetish is, right this minute, metastasizing into full-blown race-hatred.

There will be blood.

Blogger ajw308 (#98) August 20, 2015 1:08 PM  

On the other hand, I wonder why all those people of color don't self-identify as white and get 'white privilege' for free.
For the same reason the Bruce Jenner didn't take a 20% paycut when he mutilated his body.

Blogger Joshua Dyal August 20, 2015 1:17 PM  

For the same reason the Bruce Jenner didn't take a 20% paycut when he mutilated his body.

He didn't mutilate anything. He just dressed like a girl.

Blogger Student in Blue August 20, 2015 1:20 PM  

They've already noticed the simplest attempts at black-knighting and just ruled them out.

First... goodness, emacs? A shame.

Second, it sounds like it's time for far more than basic black-knighting - they need to ousted by their own stupid rules. And that requires planning and preparation.

Anonymous clk August 20, 2015 1:23 PM  

"I have the family tree, the DNA results, and the tribal connections to prove it beyond any shadow of a doubt."

I dont think we ever have heard exactly what tribe you belong to .. do you have a certificate of degree of indian blood from the BIA ?

Blogger Cail Corishev August 20, 2015 1:53 PM  

Student in Blue, right. People have tried using their Codes against them, and it's not that simple. A white male says, "Hey, that blue-haired female keeps trying to get me fired from my job and telling me I should kill myself. It says right here in your Code that harassment is not allowed. Make her stop." The response from an SJW-influenced group is, "Well, she says she feels oppressed by your white cis-male privilege, so suck on it." It's going to take a smarter attack than that.

I think they're overplaying their hand, though. The same impulse to fairness which made normal people susceptible to SJW entryists is going to make those same people balk at these open calls for unfairness. That might have worked in the real world with generations that still remembered segregation and could be convinced that some unfairness was necessary to even the scales; but people who work on projects like Emacs know damn well they've never discriminated against anyone. In fact, they've bent over backwards to be welcoming, making an extra effort to help anyone get started who didn't fit the usual programmer mold, going along with calls for Codes about fairness even though they didn't see the point. So accusing them of being de facto segregationists isn't going to sit well with a lot of them.

Blogger luagha August 20, 2015 1:55 PM  

@50 Apparently Jim's gamemaster got tired of him playing Pun-Pun.

Anonymous Athor Pel August 20, 2015 2:08 PM  

"65. Cail Corishev August 20, 2015 11:49 AM
...
But this stuff is coming right out in the open now everywhere, with people saying outright, "No, you normal white guys have to bend over and take it for a while, and you'd better not object."



How do the open source folks deal with technical dissent? If I'm getting the terminology correct they fork the source, take off in a different direction and let the other side build their own project. Sink or swim, on the technical merits.

The price is low for doing this. No, actually the price is positive. By excluding people that embrace something other than objective reality you are shedding anchors. The project should be better for being rid of them.

The harsher the rhetoric thrown your way the more the presently unsure will see the need for separation. And yes you should goad the SJW to loftier hieghts of crazy talk.

See these moments for what they are, self identification of the idiocracy.

Anonymous Jim Milo August 20, 2015 2:09 PM  

Let‘s have a taste test to put this speculation about Vox to rest.

Bear meat tacos.

Blogger Student in Blue August 20, 2015 2:12 PM  

The same impulse to fairness which made normal people susceptible to SJW entryists is going to make those same people balk at these open calls for unfairness.

While true, the herd mentality of humans in general and the amount of mind-bending SJWs can do in order to justify their own faulty positions make me fear that the normal people will instead just be going along just to go along: a token resistance, instead of an actual resistance.

Much as I hate going back to it over and over again, consider the German citizens who found themselves doing horrible things that even months before they wouldn't consider doing whatsoever. They did it because "a superior told them".

So it may not sit well with them... but people have a remarkable tendency to tolerate evil and irrational behavior. (Say, the story of Legion?)

Blogger Tommy Hass August 20, 2015 2:13 PM  

Vermin.

Blogger Danby August 20, 2015 2:14 PM  

Elk sausage, dude. Bear meat is too greasy.

Blogger VD August 20, 2015 2:19 PM  

I dont think we ever have heard exactly what tribe you belong to .. do you have a certificate of degree of indian blood from the BIA ?

No, you haven't. And no, you won't. I have no intention of permitting them to be harassed by SJWs.

Blogger VD August 20, 2015 2:21 PM  

I was just in an IRC channel for an open source software project (#emacs), watching a bunch of people natter about how it's perfectly reasonable to have your Code of Conduct say that cis-normative white males aren't allowed to appeal to the Code's rules against discrimination and harassment because privilege.

Send me a link to that if it's on a site anywhere. I might still be able to fit it in the book.

Blogger Danby August 20, 2015 2:21 PM  

@80 Student
Well, Germans gonna German. Not All Whites Are Like That. Italians live by the motto, "Do what you like, I'm going to drive too fast, drink wine and screw women with big tits." The French have built an entire culture around defying authority. When the Romans showed up to conquer Ireland, the Irish response was literally "Kiss my red-haired ass."

Blogger Student in Blue August 20, 2015 2:40 PM  

@Danby
True, Germans do have a proclivity towards obeisance, maybe verging on a blind obedience of authority.

Consider then, the cuckservative.

Anonymous Discard August 20, 2015 2:42 PM  

This whole business of pretending to be Black is rooted more in White auto hatred than in money hustling, I think. There are far more synthetic Blacks than Shaun King and Rachael Donbai (?). I know two White 20-somethings who do this, and get no money out of it. What else would you expect after decades of White hatred, endorsed my every respectable authority? These people are passing, for the same reasons that Blacks historically have.

Note: A White passing as Black is sexually desirable to SJWs. They get the anti-racist credentials without the Black pathology.

Anonymous Supernaut August 20, 2015 2:45 PM  

People, this was supposed to have been all settled back in the 90's...remember?

"African-American men seemed to understand it right away. Years ago, in the middle of the Whitewater investigation, one heard the first murmurs: white skin notwithstanding, this is our first black President. Blacker than any actual black person who could ever be elected in our children's lifetime. After all, Clinton displays almost every trope of blackness: single-parent household, born poor, working-class, saxophone-playing, McDonald's-and-junk-food-loving boy from Arkansas. " - Toni Morrison

Anonymous Supernaut August 20, 2015 2:47 PM  

"Blacker than any actual black person who could ever be elected in our children's lifetime."

So whattya think folks, is Bubba blacker than Barry?

Blogger Danby August 20, 2015 2:52 PM  

is Bubba blacker than Barry?
depends on what you mean by "Black"
After all, Barry's heritage has literally NOTHING to do with any black person in this country (unless the rumors of his being the son of Frank Marshall Davis are true) He grew up in a gated community in Hawaii, for Pete's sake.
Whereas Bubba, well, let's just say he likes him some big-ass, big-hair white women a lot more than Barry does.

Anonymous a militant Brutha named Cheddarman August 20, 2015 3:26 PM  

I have previously identified myself here as "A militant Brutha named Cheddarman" so y'all gimme my free stuff now!

Blogger Cail Corishev August 20, 2015 4:06 PM  

Send me a link to that if it's on a site anywhere.

Sorry, I had already closed the channel in disgust, and it doesn't appear that they log it anywhere.

The channel topic right now includes "No sexism, racism, homophobia, or other asshattery." Which looks fine to normal people; they don't want any of that stuff, especially in a channel that's supposed to be about coding. It's not until someone openly says, "Oh no, that doesn't apply to people doing those things to you," that you can start to get through to the normals that it's not about fairness anymore.

Blogger borderwalker August 20, 2015 4:12 PM  

@89: According to Carlos Mencia, "The only thing black about Barack Obama is that >expletive< don't know his daddy!"

And there's this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDxOSjgl5Z4

"For the first two-thirds of his life, Barack Obama was known as 'Barry', which is the third-whitest name on Earth, right after 'Cody' and 'Jeff'."

Blogger borderwalker August 20, 2015 4:13 PM  

@89: According to Carlos Mencia, "The only thing black about Barack Obama is that >expletive< don't know his daddy!"

And there's this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDxOSjgl5Z4

"For the first two-thirds of his life, Barack Obama was known as 'Barry', which is the third-whitest name on Earth, right after 'Cody' and 'Jeff'."

Anonymous Koanic August 20, 2015 4:19 PM  

This centralization of authority creates a terrible security vulnerability. What if the negotiators offer Vox a handful of beads, two bottles of whisky and a smallpox blanket? Where will the Ilk sleep?

Blogger Josh August 20, 2015 4:32 PM  

So whattya think folks, is Bubba blacker than Barry?

Absolutely. Look at Steve Sailer's posts about Barry's literary tastes.

Blogger SciVo August 20, 2015 5:59 PM  

Cail Corishev @65: "I was just in an IRC channel for an open source software project (#emacs), watching a bunch of people natter about how it's perfectly reasonable to have your Code of Conduct say that cis-normative white males aren't allowed to appeal to the Code's rules against discrimination and harassment because privilege."

I wonder how long until Codes of Conduct start saying, "Only white males allowed, to protect everyone else from the triggering oppression of our privilege."

Blogger SciVo August 20, 2015 6:16 PM  

Athor Pel @78: "The harsher the rhetoric thrown your way the more the presently unsure will see the need for separation. And yes you should goad the SJW to loftier hieghts of crazy talk."

I like it. Combined with my earlier musings, they could fork the source and make a Code of Conduct that reads, "Race and gender are social constructs, so everyone is required to at least pretend to be a white male, so that we will all have equal privilege. And if someone is mean to you? Then suck it up, buttercup, or hit back twice as hard."

Then constantly troll the other fork with triggering statements, so that technical discussions become impossible to follow in the surrounding sea of political bullshit.

Blogger Daniel August 20, 2015 6:38 PM  

Like hell I'm going to ask your family about your race. The last way I want to die is with a tacohawk in my back.

Those things splinter.

Blogger ray August 20, 2015 7:44 PM  

'Much as I hate going back to it over and over again, consider the German citizens who found themselves doing horrible things that even months before they wouldn't consider doing whatsoever. They did it because "a superior told them".'


This is confirmed baseline human behavior, and is also settled science, see Milgram Experiment. Humans, especially females, are herd critters mostly. The vast majority are exactly what Jesus called them, sheep. Next most plentiful are the wolves. Finally, trailing in the Far Minority position, are the few who are neither. Like Him.

Blogger Jim August 20, 2015 9:46 PM  

Apparently Jim's gamemaster got tired of him playing Pun-Pun.

I wish. My stupid viper familiar self-identified as a humming bird.

Blogger J Van Stry August 20, 2015 11:00 PM  

It says something about how whites are treated in America, that so many leftists are trying to claim to be black.

Anonymous Donn #0114 August 20, 2015 11:53 PM  

Jim @101 Play Dungeon World. It's all about character choice and narrative. If your viper thinks he's a hummingbird there's no reason to tell him different. Unless he's non-magical and can't fly. Then he's just a retard.

Anonymous Randall August 21, 2015 7:34 AM  

It is just a matter of time before the American Psychological Association adds Racial Identity Disorder to the DSM and declares it a disability.

Blogger Jim August 21, 2015 7:50 AM  

Jim @101 Play Dungeon World. It's all about character choice and narrative.

Reads a lot like how I run 4e games. Of course, trying to get 3.5e players to play that way is like pulling teeth.

Then he's just a retard.

He votes Green. Even though the empire's not a democracy and there's not even a Green Party. Stupid viper. I blame the Bard for showing him Tumblr. I could have surpassed the power of the gods, but noooooooo. He has to be a two-spirited vegan humming-bird-kin. That's right, Gary! I said he. You aren't a zhe or whatever the hell you're going by today.

I swear, I'd kill him, but I just spent a bunch of XP crafting a sword for the fighter and can't take the hit. Boccob knows why I bother there, too.

Anonymous George of the Jungle August 21, 2015 5:58 PM  

@65
The rabid reactions, incessant attacks, and unjustifiable rules are in fact the sincerest form of flattery to white males. Each tactic they attempt implicitly assumes the superiority of the civilization that was built by their betters, with a large dollop of greed always lurking in the background.

This type of situation is perfect for agree and amplify. First thank them for automatically recognizing you as superior. Then tell them they must immediately move to a degenerate society in which white Christian males had never created all those creature comforts they enjoy every instant of their miserable lives, most likely somewhere in Africa, Central America, or the Mideast. Then end by declaring that, since you have just been acknowledged by them as their superior, you have no need to lounge around in their evil depressive state and commiserate with their envy and greed and hatred. Oh, and if they actually have a need for some real work to be accomplished, send you an email, and if you're not too busy, you'll at least consider their proposal (it must be asked nicely, of course, else you reject it out of hand).

If done well, this could be a really entertaining to immediately turn the tables on them. Alinsky Rules !!!

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