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Tuesday, August 11, 2015

"the American Era is over"

Jerry Pournelle pronounces the end of the American era:
Everyone must understand that the American Era is over: the United States domination of the world is ended, just as the British domination of the world (pink all over the globe) I learned in grade school ended after World War II. For some this was an objective to achieve. For others it is a disaster. For all it is a coming fact. The nuclear weapon, like the .45 Colt, is an equalizer, and it is now inevitable that Iran will acquire nuclear weapons whenever they decide to do so, given that the deal essentially gives up on inspections, and Iran has announced that under no circumstance will there be any inspection of their military installations even if there is inspection – after 24 day’s notice – of their peaceful installations. Intelligence experts say Iran is about a year from their decision to have them. My guess is that there will be a demonstration in Summer, 2017.

Meanwhile the other nations of the Middle East will rush to acquire their own; they can read the newspapers as well as I can.
It's impossible to argue with him in light of the following, although the problem would appear to be less the loss of the country's military dominance and more the fact that the population is now almost completely retarded:
After covering the usual local news, the show began to transition into a segment about one of the Kardashian daughters recently naming her new pet rabbit “Bruce.” (Just typing that sentence made me want to launch my fist into the computer screen where my pupils are currently fixated. Rest assured, I’m still typing, so I obviously mustered up all of the self-control in my being and refrained.) That’s when Brown interrupted the correspondent reporting the “story” in mid-sentence:

“I am having a good Friday, so I refuse to talk about the Kardashians today,” said Brown. “You are on your own, Amy. I can’t do it.”

As the program’s co-host storms off set, he can be heard off-screen shouting, “I’ve had enough Kardashians. I can’t take any more Kardashian stories on this show.”

After a replacement anchor rushes in to fill the void left on the morning show’s couch, the fed-up Brown — whose microphone stays on despite walking off set — can be heard continuing his rant away from the cameras: “I don’t care about this family. I’m sick of this family. It’s a non-story!”
I have never watched a single moment of the Kardashians doing anything, but I have to admit, the idea that the naming of a pet rabbit is a national news story does strike me as surreal.

All I can say is that no matter what happens to America as it gradually slides towards historical oblivion, one cannot possibly argue that its fate was not eminently merited.

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138 Comments:

Blogger Josh August 11, 2015 12:03 PM  

The nuclear weapon, like the .45 Colt, is an equalizer, and it is now inevitable that Iran will acquire nuclear weapons whenever they decide to do so, given that the deal essentially gives up on inspections, and Iran has announced that under no circumstance will there be any inspection of their military installations even if there is inspection – after 24 day’s notice – of their peaceful installations. Intelligence experts say Iran is about a year from their decision to have them. My guess is that there will be a demonstration in Summer, 2017.

It was always inevitable.

Anonymous Clint #47/#73 August 11, 2015 12:10 PM  

It is indeed a crazy time. We have private citizens protecting the military, sheriffs gathering folks to confront the feds who are determined to remove a veteran's guns, people are confronting Planned Parenthood doctors at their homes, and Donald Freakin' Trump is leading the Republican pack.

Blogger Karl August 11, 2015 12:10 PM  

They've been at the 3 month "breakout" threshold for 10 years or more. If they were seriously interested in producing even a test weapon why not produce one prior to 2007 which was the most likely time for a U.S. attack.

The weapons program, not even having a device but having the potential to have a device, is a useful bargaining chip for them.

I like Mr. Pournelle's writing but I disagree with him.

Anonymous R Wilson August 11, 2015 12:15 PM  

Are we supposed to call the rabbit Caitlyn now?

Blogger hank.jim August 11, 2015 12:18 PM  

Hillary took a selfie with the Kardashians. This is progress.

Blogger Josh August 11, 2015 12:23 PM  

Are we supposed to call the rabbit Caitlyn now?

Yeah, it's pretty transphobic and othering and problematic to use the name Bruce.

Blogger Zach August 11, 2015 12:25 PM  

But does the rabbit identify as a rabbit?

Blogger Owen August 11, 2015 12:36 PM  

So, which will happen first?

A celebrity to have species change surgery for a pet or

sex change operation for a pet?

"He was born a Chihuahua, but in reality he has the heart of a Rottweiler. So, we had to start the process for him to be complete. My courageous, little Mr. Poopsie."

Blogger Josh August 11, 2015 12:37 PM  

A celebrity to have species change surgery for a pet or

sex change operation for a pet?

"He was born a Chihuahua, but in reality he has the heart of a Rottweiler. So, we had to start the process for him to be complete. My courageous, little Mr. Poopsie."


South Park already had the Jewfin episode years ago.

Anonymous TLM August 11, 2015 12:42 PM  

Why anyone would watch a show, or emulate them for that matter, a coven of swarthy mud sharks is beyond my comprehension. Cheers to the anchor that had enough of the nonsense.

Blogger bw August 11, 2015 12:44 PM  

It's long over when news story and parody merge and become one.

Anonymous Jerome Horowitz August 11, 2015 12:44 PM  

The US has achieved IDIOCRACY, much earlier than 2505.

Blogger Josh August 11, 2015 12:45 PM  

The US has achieved IDIOCRACY, much earlier than 2505.

It's what plants crave.

Blogger D. Lane (#0067) August 11, 2015 12:50 PM  

But does the rabbit identify as a rabbit?

The word over at my local Starbucks is that it briefly identified as one of Cecil's cubs and nearly fainted from a panic attack.

Blogger Russell (106) August 11, 2015 12:50 PM  

Merited and amusing.

Post-Christianity USA is barbaric and farcical.

Front row seats watching the wheels come off America hasn't been without its moments of levity.

Anonymous Jerome Horowitz August 11, 2015 12:52 PM  

#13..Josh

Because Brawndo..."It's got Electrolytes!"

Blogger The Original Hermit August 11, 2015 12:53 PM  

I don't think women have any concept of how much men hate most gossip, let alone "celebrity" gossip. My wife started taking to me a month ago about the "Kylie Jenner Challenge", as if I should know who she was. The second the name Kardashian came up I shut down that conversation.

Blogger Scott Rassbach August 11, 2015 1:01 PM  

We have a rabbit who identifies as a chicken. True story. It was raised with chickens from a kit.

It does not, however, grow feathers or lay eggs.

Blogger David-093 August 11, 2015 1:04 PM  

"It's what plants crave."

South Carolina, wassup?!

Anonymous tiarosa August 11, 2015 1:09 PM  

And then we have Exhibit B-
http://elitedaily.com/news/woman-runs-marathon-no-tampon-protest-period-shaming/1171961/
I'm ashamed for my sex to say it but maybe women do need to be sent "back to the kitchen."

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer August 11, 2015 1:09 PM  

"Don't worry, scro. There are plenty of tards out there, living really kick-ass lives.

Anonymous Krul August 11, 2015 1:10 PM  

During wilderness survival training, we got a rabbit that identified as "alive" at first, but later identified as "dinner". The reassignment surgery consisted of removal of skin and organs, then slow-roasting over an open fire.

I think it was much more fulfilled as "trans-food" than it was before, though I didn't get the chance to ask it.

Anonymous zen0 the Concerned August 11, 2015 1:16 PM  

@18

>It does not, however, grow feathers or lay eggs.

But do the chickens accept it peacefully, or have they broken into ideologically charged groups?

Blogger August August 11, 2015 1:18 PM  

The anti-proliferation policies are stupid, and American Imperialism tends to encourage small countries to build nukes. Some go so far to say Iran just wants nuclear power, not nukes. Whatever. If more of us knew their language, we'd be able to tell how badly the media/politicians are lying about them, which is probably why they keep everybody fat, dumb, and medicated in public school.

Blogger IM2L844 August 11, 2015 1:19 PM  

Social Justice Whiner: "Nobody could've seen this coming."

VFM: "Shut up, Tad."

Anonymous Donn #0114 August 11, 2015 1:21 PM  

"Fun bags over there is the Attorney General. Brought to you by Carls jr." That's a perfect job for any of the Kardashian clan.

Anonymous Stg58 / Animal Mother #225 August 11, 2015 1:28 PM  

Zen0,

Are you referring to the Chicken Front of Judea?

Blogger Azimus August 11, 2015 1:29 PM  

I may be cloistered here in Eastern Wisconsin but does anyone know anyone who gives a rip about the Kardashians/Jenners? I don't. I know what - 500 people on a first name basis? Not one of them has ever mentioned these people except Bruce Jenner, and that is in the last 12 months, and that is for 30 seconds to mention how disgusting it is and we move on.

Anonymous 11B August 11, 2015 1:30 PM  

The anti-proliferation policies are stupid, and American Imperialism tends to encourage small countries to build nukes.

I guess that's the message we've sent. If we dislike you and you don't have nukes, we might just bomb and invade you. If we dislike you and you have nukes, you won't get bombed or invaded. I guess it doesn't take a genius generalissimo to realize that getting a nuke might be advantageous.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 August 11, 2015 1:30 PM  

The Kardashians are popular because women like to gossip.

Which is a vice last I checked.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus August 11, 2015 1:31 PM  

Arms race for the antimatter bomb?

Blogger bornagainpenguin August 11, 2015 1:33 PM  

Hey Vox, speaking of Iran have you heard anything about this supposed meteor that struck there? Reason I ask you is some of the sites stated 'even the Italian press' covered it while alleging a NASA cover up. I imagine if there's any truth to it you would have heard about it by now?

Blogger Doom August 11, 2015 1:35 PM  

Hmm?

Oh, right. Well... a few things first. What liberal media presents as news is NOT what America is or isn't. I would say, in absolutes, the two are as related as Obama and George Washington, biologically. Most Americans, from what I am seeing in hearing, in the real world, are ashamed of their politicians, media, stars, judges, academics, and elites in general. They don't want to be like them, they would love nothing more than to literally purge the lot of them, they just don't know how. Too long, perhaps, since the tree of liberty was watered.

As to America failing? That, too, is a fiction. It is falling. But as a feather economy to a bowling ball of the rest of the world, and not in a vacuum. China just cut loose, the last other rising currency. They have, even more than the US, become unhinged in the race to save what is too big to fail. While the US also circles that flushed toilet, again, it's a matter of comparative pacing and real size. An aircraft carrier (in my day) could handled a sea-to-sea nuke my sub carried, out to 50~75 nautical miles away. A destroyer had to be much further away. The US is as a carrier, if at a questionable distance, either at all stop or some level of reverse. China is a destroyer, at 20 nautical miles, at full steam.

You know, there are huge differences and missed notions. America may fall, but they will be on top of the heap (for what that is worth, at the height of drop). Still, first down isn't always the first up, depends on the aim of the ones after. :) My only hope is that a lot of tics and fleas will think the Eagle is dead, and bug off after the incident. Or better, just die off.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus August 11, 2015 1:35 PM  

I may be cloistered here in Eastern Wisconsin but does anyone know anyone who gives a rip about the Kardashians/Jenners?

Aren't the Kardashians those people with the funny looking necks on Star Trek?

Blogger Midnight Avenue J August 11, 2015 1:39 PM  

Aren't the Kardashians those people with the funny looking necks on Star Trek?

A part of me has always wondered if some animosity towards the Kardashians inspired the name of that alien race. Like, perhaps Roddenberry or one of the writers knew them somehow and decided to parody them? The asses weren't big enough, though. Perhaps even sci-fi couldn't imagine such grosse posteriors.

Anonymous June August 11, 2015 1:46 PM  

Actually America is about to enter its golden age.

To people here it seems like things are bad because whites are losing their primacy and privilege.

white men are scared they are going to have pull their weight like everyone else and that terrifies them

People of Color are much more optimistic about the future then are white men. That tells you something right there

Blogger skiballa August 11, 2015 1:47 PM  

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Blogger skiballa August 11, 2015 1:49 PM  

I don't know June, I see so many possibilities in the breakdown, turmoil presents so many opportunities.

Which white people are you talking about?

Anonymous BigGaySteve August 11, 2015 1:53 PM  

People of Color are much more optimistic about the future then are white men.

Even PC nursing books say that only Asians and whites have "future orientation". Who will feed the monkeys when there are not enough white men? Asians are willing to shoot blacks just for striking for higher wages.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/zambia/8073443/Zambian-miners-shot-by-Chinese-managers.html

Iran will acquire ,,, given that the deal essentially gives up on inspections,>It was always inevitable.

Didn't they say the same thing about a black Einstein?

watch a show, or emulate them for that matter, a coven of swarthy mud sharks is beyond my comprehension

I would imagine the same reason some men go out on Christmas eve just to watch all the last min gift buyers, when they did all their shopping online. To feel better about themselves.

Like, perhaps Roddenberry or one of the writers knew them somehow and decided to parody them?

It turns out there is a whole twisted connection going back to OJ's dad & this stuff. OJ's dad was a tranny, 2 of the helicopter pilots reporting on his chase became tranny's, OJ's lawyer was Kardasian's daddy. LewRockwell reported this back with the zoey Tur-Ben Shapiro schuffle

Blogger Scott Rassbach August 11, 2015 1:55 PM  

@23, some of the chickens have accepted their rabbit/chicken sister, mostly the hens. The roosters will have nothing to do with her.

Anonymous 11B August 11, 2015 1:57 PM  

white men are scared they are going to have pull their weight like everyone else and that terrifies them

Yeah, I guess white men wee too busy creating the industrial revolution, inventing the airplane, motorcar, radio, tv, computers, internet, etc, etc., that they failed to pull their own weight.

Anonymous p-dawg August 11, 2015 1:58 PM  

@June: You mean they'll have to run all the governments and invent all the things and build all the cities again? Is that what you meant by "pull their weight"?

Blogger IM2L844 August 11, 2015 1:59 PM  

"People of Color are much more optimistic about the future then are white men. That tells you something right there

More than you think.

Blogger Azimus August 11, 2015 1:59 PM  

36. Anonymous June August 11, 2015 1:46 PM
Actually America is about to enter its golden age.


What metrics, if any, indicate this? Wealth metrics? Health metrics? Employment? Education? Trade/Economics? Crime? What is your yardstick for this claim?

Anonymous praetorian August 11, 2015 2:04 PM  

People of Color are much more optimistic about the future then are white men. That tells you something right there

^^ COTW.

I haven't laughed that hard in weeks.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza August 11, 2015 2:05 PM  

Post Americants times are worthless, its a foregone conclusion that what awaits post america is judgement, doom, death - FUBAR.

Forget the following; help, deliverance, taxes, debts, etc., the taxes and debts are all fake, all lies.

Blogger Harsh August 11, 2015 2:06 PM  

white men are scared they are going to have pull their weight like everyone else and that terrifies them

Uh... what?

Blogger LP 999/Eliza August 11, 2015 2:06 PM  

Sure MPAI are positive happiness pushers, the meds make it ALLLLL alright.

Blogger maniacprovost August 11, 2015 2:08 PM  

I would also like Ms.Cleaver to expand on her unsupported assertions.

Blogger skiballa August 11, 2015 2:09 PM  

Yes, a demonstrated lack of foresight, too bad reading and studying history have become so unpopular. I'll not take credit for this, and it's been said better by others, but this is from Sipsey Street;

"And I'll tell you something else . . . when I see these black racists of Farrakhan's bunch talking about wanting a race war I'd say they haven't looked at how the numbers stack up. Because let me tell you something about white folks at their worst. When they get scared that people are trying to kill them just because of who they are, when they get pissed off along racial lines, they don't tear up their own neighborhoods or burn down their own communities like y'all do. They come to the neighborhoods of the people who threaten them and burn THEIR communities down and kill THEM. They have burned down whole CONTINENTS. And if you don't believe me, just ask the Indians."

OpenID b1bae96e-6447-11e3-b6bb-000f20980440 August 11, 2015 2:10 PM  

Like, perhaps Roddenberry or one of the writers knew them somehow and decided to parody them? The asses weren't big enough, though. Perhaps even sci-fi couldn't imagine such grosse posteriors.

Pretty sure Roddenberry was either dead or effectively kicked off the show by the time the Cardassians were invented. Also, the girls were like 6-7 and the father hadn't gotten his OJ fame yet. Then again, given that Hollywood is sexual deviance central it wouldn't surprise me.

I personally find the phenomena behind it fascinating. All these women that follow these celebs are desperate to be a part of something larger than they are and it is manifesting itself in famous worship rather than a more productive getting to know the people around you in a more in depth manner.

Anonymous Krul August 11, 2015 2:12 PM  

@36 "Actually America is about to enter its golden age."

We finally, really did it...

Blogger Owen August 11, 2015 2:12 PM  

To people here it seems like things are bad because whites are losing their primacy and privilege.

Shut up, Tad.

Blogger Cataline Sergius August 11, 2015 2:16 PM  

Infamous comes from the latin; Infama. The improperly famous. Athletes, actors and gladiators were all infama. They couldn't vote and weren't supposed to be anything other than a mindless diversion.

Professional Beauty(s) have been with us a while. The petty shit the Kardashians do is no more silly than the stuff Lilly Langtree used to get up to.

Admittedly LL used to sleep with a dimwitted future king and Lord Mountbatten's grandfather. Where as the KKs appear to sleep with dimwitted rappers and athletes.

Although to give Lilly credit, her gay best friend was Oscar Wilde. I have no idea who Kim's gay besty is but I'll lay money he's a hairdresser.

Perhaps this does say something about the nature of fame in our modern society.

In Lilly Langtree's day a man needed to do something important to be famous.

And by important, I mean actually, real world, life and death important. As in if you made a bad call your country would lose big time; important.

A woman gaining status by screwing someone important isn't new but what is considered important now certainly is. Double digit IQ'd, uneducated ball players and entertainers.

Our jugglers and clowns are now knelt to by our statesmen.

Ah well, western civilization was fun while it lasted And the Kardashian granddaughters are probably still going to end up having sex with important men.

After all in thirty years, Lord Humongous is going to be a very important man indeed.

Blogger Josh August 11, 2015 2:19 PM  

LOL JETS

Blogger Midnight Avenue J August 11, 2015 2:19 PM  

@51

There's a female competition thing going on too. The Kardashian/Jenner girls are put forth as glamorous and in the middle of the things that move and shake the world. Publicists relentlessly promote them and encourage people to adore them...appearance becomes reality in women's minds, and women want to be adored and attractive and fawned over, so imitate the Kardashians and you, too, can have what they do.

Once women's mags and People and such stop pushing them on the covers, it'll fade, but nature abhors a vacuum and some other trainwreck will come along to fill the void. In the meantime, the mere suggestion of the name "Kardashian" makes millions for the fashion industry. One of them has made a makeup technique called contouring very popular. It requires using about 17 different types and shades of makeup to give your face a shape it doesn't naturally have. It's complicated and expensive, and talk about fraud by makeup, there are some videos out there where you can't even tell it's the same person.

OpenID corvinus333 August 11, 2015 2:21 PM  

Actually America is about to enter its golden age.

@36 June
Golden Arches age, maybe.

Blogger Midnight Avenue J August 11, 2015 2:25 PM  

Catline,

so what you're saying is we need a better class of ho?

Anonymous BGS August 11, 2015 2:26 PM  

white men are scared they are going to have pull their weight like everyone else and that terrifies them Uh... what?

Working smarter not harder gives a lot better results. If anyone isn't prepped for the nigapocalypse make sure you stock up on at least 6 months of the meds you need. Many common meds can be bought for $4 a month at Wal-Mart. Perhaps even buy veterinary equivalents for emergencies. People going cold turkey off psych meds will be bad. Many meds can be used past their expiration dates but not tetracyclines . http://www.doomandbloom.net/new-evidence-on-expiration-dates-2/

Anonymous praetorian August 11, 2015 2:31 PM  

Ikemefuna Enemkpali is OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THE FUTURE, gentlemen. I think that tells us a lot.

http://www.tshirtlaundry.com/assets/images/photos/Camacho9-27-2011-2.jpg

Blogger Cataline Sergius August 11, 2015 2:32 PM  

I'm not that freaked out about Iran getting fission bombs. That's 1940s technology and lets face it, they would only use them to hit New York, LA or (please, oh please) San Francisco.

Fusion bombs are trickier, more expensive and have to be frequently tested. And then there is the question of delivery.

Besides the WMD of the future is going to be the gene targeted, bio-weapon. I guarantee that is the future of WMD warfare.

Blogger Cataline Sergius August 11, 2015 2:39 PM  

so what you're saying is we need a better class of ho?

Without question. Look at the quality of the ho we used to have in this country. Note the lack of tattoos.

Blogger BigFire August 11, 2015 2:44 PM  

Lily Langtree does have undeniable talent. Something I cannot say of the Kardisians.

Anonymous Hrw-500 August 11, 2015 2:45 PM  

A bit off-topic but I spotted that article of meteors who hit Iran.

Blogger Midnight Avenue J August 11, 2015 2:47 PM  

And they kept their sluttery quiet, I'd bet. Of course it seems like everyone always knows who got around, but some outward signs of respectability were expected and enforced. Not any longer.

A guy I know, all of 21 years old, said he was going to put his gauges back in his ears - you know, those plastic plugs that stretch out the earlobes? I almost fell over when another guy, in his forties, said "you do that and I will throw hot welding rods at you trying to knock them out of your head." The 21 yo kid said he wouldn't do it, then. And he hasn't, he has to work with the Welder every day.

Sometimes you have to enforce stuff. I think this radical self-expression/self-love movement, the "you can't judge me" stuff, is turning around. Not quickly by any means, but turning. I work in a place where I get to see a lot of skin (a gym) and there aren't as many tatts and piercings on younger people as I expected. Usually it's very, very fat women who are all tatted up and shave their heads. Attention seeking. And one wears those cheer shorts, so tiny they look like a thong bikini on her. We don't know how to confront her about it, hoping one of the women will subtly shame her into wearing more appropriate clothing.

Anonymous Krul August 11, 2015 2:50 PM  

@65 Midnight Avenue J - "you know, those plastic plugs that stretch out the earlobes?"

Yeah, I know what you mean. I call them ear vaginas.

Anonymous Porky August 11, 2015 2:58 PM  

Dude...you're a local news personality.

Nearly everything you do is non-news, and the stuff that is actually news you gloss over quickly to make more room for murder-death-kill-maim-rape-carcrash and Bruce the Bunny.

Now get back on that couch.



Blogger Tommy Hass August 11, 2015 3:04 PM  

"The anti-proliferation policies are stupid, and American Imperialism tends to encourage small countries to build nukes.

I guess that's the message we've sent. If we dislike you and you don't have nukes, we might just bomb and invade you. If we dislike you and you have nukes, you won't get bombed or invaded. I guess it doesn't take a genius generalissimo to realize that getting a nuke might be advantageous."

Bingo.

Blogger ray August 11, 2015 3:07 PM  

The Kardashians are emblematic of the female Spirit ruling over America, and over the West, for most of a century now. Jerry Pournelle is running a tad late.

It's the feminine spirit of rebellion against the authority of God and of man, combined with the CELEBRATION of evil. Not merely the practice of sin and fault and wickedness, to which we are all subject. But the CELEBRATION and CAPITALIZATION of whoredom, greed, vanity, shallowness, envy, malice. Anything to offend and punish the Evil White Male Christians who are keeping the Kardashians and Obama Daughters and Chelseas and other Princesses of America from being all that they can be.

Women rule the U.S., so Iran gets its nukes, just as Woman and her Cucks gave America the mooslim Barack Hussein, desperately pretending to be a white country-club golfer and Christian. While Barry pretends, the Rainbow House and Nation are run by Valerie Jarrett (born Shiraz, Iran) and Huma Abedin (raised Jeddah, Saudi Arabia). Like their constituents, they hate America, hate Christ, hate the Father and Son, hate white males, and most obviously hate themselves for how God made them. But they know that God will not support their Kardashian/fem/identity-fascist nation, so they drive it to ruin, while stripping it (and the world) of as many resources as possible. Then call it 'progress' and 'equality' and 'being on the right side of history'.

Anonymous Silly but True August 11, 2015 3:11 PM  

Titus, the example is a propos. SJW's are always looking for ways to force us to say there are five lights when there are really only four.

Blogger Alexander August 11, 2015 3:12 PM  

You know... a less-than-scrupulous nation might make a profit selling fake nukes to Africa. It's not as if any of the natives would be capable of inspecting the merchandise, and if they used one and it didn't work, they'd want to keep secret that they'd gone and tried to nuke their neighbor anyway. And if the fact that they had tried did get out, everyone would just assume typical third-world maintenance issues were at play.

Imagine, a nuclear arms race that was really nothing more than heavy chunks of metal with flashing lights on them.

Anonymous Bz August 11, 2015 3:12 PM  

In summary: The Kardashians are whores, originally hailing from Babylon.

Blogger Alexander August 11, 2015 3:17 PM  

It's also really silly to worry about Iran having a nuke or two, when England and France are still (admittedly, increasingly reluctant) in the process of turning their nuclear arsenals over to Arabs.

If anything, we ought to help Iran if only to maintain Sunni/Shi'ite balance.

Blogger Feather Blade August 11, 2015 3:17 PM  

@ 56 One of them has made a makeup technique called contouring very popular. It requires using about 17 different types and shades of makeup to give your face a shape it doesn't naturally have.

Big deal. Theatre students have been doing the same for centuries. Get a basic Ben Nye stage makeup kit and you can do the same with 4 shades plus an eyeliner pencil.

Blogger rumpole5 August 11, 2015 3:25 PM  

Yeah, it tells me that the Bell Curve description of respective white-AA IQ distribution was spot on.

Blogger VFM bot #188 August 11, 2015 3:28 PM  

All I can say is that no matter what happens to America as it gradually slides towards historical oblivion, one cannot possibly argue that its fate was not eminently merited.

Yep.

Anonymous patrick kelly August 11, 2015 3:29 PM  

"Imagine, a nuclear arms race that was really nothing more than heavy chunks of metal with flashing lights on them."

There are currently no nukes which have been tested with the intended delivery system. At least officially, maybe there are ways to secretly test them that way without anyone knowing...I don't think so...software simulations don't count......

Add this to the age of most nuclear arsenals, and "heavy chunks of metal with flashing lights on them" is a distinct possibility.....

...and no, I'm not willing to test this idea in my own backyard.....

Blogger Nate August 11, 2015 3:34 PM  

i honestly have no idea who the kardashians are or how they got their fame / money.

Blogger ray August 11, 2015 3:36 PM  

"In summary: The Kardashians are whores, originally hailing from Babylon."


She's baaaack! Bigger and better than ever. Jezebel on steroids. The Kardashians are only her dapplings and dopplings.

Anonymous TLM August 11, 2015 3:36 PM  

69. Ray

Jarrett is pure evil. The Army general that she made fetch her another glass of wine as if he was some waiter should have knocked the piss out of her.

Blogger YIH August 11, 2015 3:39 PM  

@51 Hexadecimal:
Pretty sure Roddenberry was either dead or effectively kicked off the show by the time the Cardassians were invented.
After season 1 of TNG Roddenberry had effectively retired. The Cardassians were introduced in either s2/s3 as 'the alien of the week'. They didn't have a significant role until DS9.

Blogger Robert Clark August 11, 2015 3:41 PM  

Alexander.....love the idea. Good flick about that very scenario...Deterrence (made in 1999 staring Kevin Pollak). One of my favorite "what if it did happen" kind of flick.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0158583/

Blogger Salt August 11, 2015 3:44 PM  

Deterrence (made in 1999 staring Kevin Pollak)

Good flick. "We have them, and we shall use them."

Blogger RobertT August 11, 2015 3:47 PM  

Bye, Bye, Miss American Pie.

Blogger Al Cibiades August 11, 2015 3:59 PM  

Au revoir, Les enfants!

Anonymous Mike M. August 11, 2015 4:21 PM  

As Dr. Pournelle is so fond of pointing out, despair is a sin. He must be having a bad day.

WRT Iranian nuclear ambitions, I expect an Israeli attack fairly soon. Possibly in league with the Saudis. The Iranians have become notorious for making outlandish claims of weapons development, they're a joke in the business.

The culture is more of a problem, but I think most Americans are fed up with the freak show. If one of Trump's rivals grabs that as an issue, they can hammer him with it. Then hammer Clinton with it.

Blogger M Cephas August 11, 2015 4:21 PM  

It seems she is trying to replace the father she lost, with a rabbit.

Blogger Floyd Looney August 11, 2015 4:58 PM  

The assassination of the American way has taken place. Good luck trying to recover. Obama's judges and bureaucracy will last 25-30 years. They will fight any attempt to make America a shining city on a hill again. That and about half the people in this country have gone full retard.

Blogger Floyd Looney August 11, 2015 5:00 PM  

All Trump has to offer is a porn star first lady. Great role model for the little girls there.

America really is collapsing in on itself.

Blogger Floyd Looney August 11, 2015 5:02 PM  

@36 - hey all you gainfully employed people paying all the taxes, raising kids and not doing any crime.... you need to be more like Trayvon and Mike Brown and pull your own weight!

lol. So hilarious.

Blogger CarpeOro August 11, 2015 5:27 PM  

I think June needs to check her privilege, making claims regarding what people of color think. Not to mention, I haven't seen evidence her pulling her own weight.

Anonymous SS August 11, 2015 5:31 PM  

Not to mention, I haven't seen evidence her pulling her own weight

SJW - not physically possible for one person to pull that

Blogger Quadko August 11, 2015 6:42 PM  

Isn't the point of the Kardishenanigans that it's the news the majority of the female audience wants to see? The National News chapter of *women ruin everything*?

Blogger Marissa August 11, 2015 7:07 PM  

All Trump has to offer is a porn star first lady. Great role model for the little girls there.

It's a step up from the First Gorilla. At least he got a better-looking third wife than Newt Gingrich did.

Blogger Marissa August 11, 2015 7:17 PM  

Also LOL at expecting politicians or their concubines to be role models. George Washington owned a couple hundred people and I'd still vote for him today.

Anonymous Susan August 11, 2015 7:20 PM  

@Nate,

The Kartrashians are the widow and daughters of the late lawyer Robert Kardashian who defended OJ during that circus trial for murder charges. One thing I will give Simpson, he pretty much killed the soap operas along with his ex-wife and her buddy Goldman. I believe their claim to fame is they hired a fantastic marketing expert.

Blogger ray August 11, 2015 7:29 PM  

"Jarrett is pure evil. The Army general that she made fetch her another glass of wine as if he was some waiter should have knocked the piss out of her."


Commendable notion TLM. As the Senator said to Pat Garrett.

If the General had done that, he'd still be in prison, however. And he knows it. But as you infer, he didn't have to play Servant Boy and fetch the nasty skank's wine. General RastUS! ;O) Apparently Jarrett drinks the same wine as the Planned Parenthood representative. Whoda thunk?

I used to support (broadly) both the military and police. Hey I'm a vet too. But I've seen too much of the above over the past decades to defend them anymore. Cheers.

Blogger Robert What? August 11, 2015 7:34 PM  

One reason every country now wants The Bomb is the corruption and total loss of moral authority among the US ruling classes. No country has any expectation anymore of the US doing the right thing at the right time. That being said, I don't believe the "Iranians as suicidal" meme being pushed by the neocons in order to gin us up for another war.

Blogger James Dixon August 11, 2015 8:37 PM  

> As Dr. Pournelle is so fond of pointing out, despair is a sin. He must be having a bad day.

The after effects of a stroke will do that to you. He can be forgiven.

Anonymous JCB August 11, 2015 8:55 PM  

Susan, their claim to fame is Kim took a black cock in a homemade porno. That's it, and that's all. Like Scalzi, they are exceptionally good, and shameless, self-promoters.

Blogger Marissa August 11, 2015 9:12 PM  

Maybe Scalzi has a little Armenian in him too. I mean in his genes, not his butthole.

Anonymous Donn #0114 August 11, 2015 9:19 PM  

Midnight J Avenue @65 Some years ago I told my daughter if she got a lip ring I'd pull it out. When she turned sixteen she came home with an ostentatious ring in her lip and a smug smirk. I promptly pulled it out. It was fake. She turned white as a sheet and said, "That could have been real." I replied, "Yup. Don't forget that."

And she never did.

Anonymous Donn #0114 August 11, 2015 9:20 PM  

Marissa @101 Please don't ever put that image in anyone's mind ever again. It's like a Cthulhu horror you lose sanity just thinking about it.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar August 11, 2015 9:43 PM  

I don't know why all of you are so happy about this. I didn't like America being the World Policeman either, but with America now leaving the World Stage its leaving power vacuums everywhere. All you have to do is look at the disaster in Iraq to see what happens when power vacuums form.
The balance of power all over the World is now teetering and it really won't take much for Global War to happen again. There are powder kegs that are just waiting to explode. China is still pissed about the Rape of Nanking and now they have a military that can do something about it. Pakistan and India both have nukes pointed at each other. I seriously doubt Iran is building nukes for defense. They have been supporting terrorists all over the World that would happily deliver their nukes for them.
Without America to step between these time bombs and their targets, we could see World War III rather quickly. all it took was a minor nobleman in Serbia getting Assassinated and suddenly WWI happened. WWII was just a continuation of WWI. WWIII is hard to predict. With the World Economy in deep Depression these fucking Bankers might start a War just to keep from getting hemp neckties.

Blogger Stilicho #0066 August 11, 2015 10:00 PM  

white men are scared they are going to have pull their weight like everyone else and that terrifies them

Indeed, when you lot finally eliminate that raciss internal combustion engine, we'll all be pulling carts around and that is a rather frightening prospect. On the bright side, the mortgage on a grass hut can be paid in rabbit skins...

Anonymous Mike M. August 11, 2015 10:01 PM  

@104 Joshua, you're right. I suspect most people don't appreciate how nasty things can get. Historical perspective is in short supply these days.

Anonymous Donn #0114 August 11, 2015 10:02 PM  

Joshua Sinistar @104 Yup, one day someone's going to use one. Every single weapons system ever built eventually gets used. We've been lucky for the last sixty something years.

There's no chance we can stop Iranian nukes now and I'm not sure we should try at this point. I'm kind of surprised Pakistan hasn't shared with muslim states further away. Maybe they will.

But nuclear weapons aren't the end of the world unless the US and Russia decide to go all out NBC warefare which we won't we might even use nukes on each other but I can't see either launching the whole enchiladas. Running a country from a bunker somewhere in the Urals or Appalachia is not why people become the leaders of the most powerful nations on earth. Not many perks or big gala parties.

Heck I figure Obama hates America as much as any guy raised by commies and muslims can but even he wants to go golfing and 'write books' when he's done being president, not huddle in a quansit hut sized room with the wife and kids hoping the air filter system doesn't give out.

Anonymous Donn #0114 August 11, 2015 10:06 PM  

Stil @105 We usually don't take rabbit skins here. Just tortoise shells, antler, or buckskins. Rabbit skins are only used to make change. I have this nice atlatl barely used...

Blogger Joshua Sinistar August 11, 2015 10:07 PM  

The thing I don't like about the Iran deal, is I don't think there was a deal. Also, this brilliant bit of diplomacy has now started a Nuclear Arms race in the Middle East. The Saudis are asking the Russians to help them with a nuclear program, and I expect Kuwait the UAE and Bahrain to follow suit. This disaster is gonna snowball fast. Russia is nearly broke and needs the money. We're all going to regret this.

Anonymous The Observer August 11, 2015 10:15 PM  

@104:

I'd rather take my chances with Chaotic Neutral than Lawful Evil.

Will there be war? Of course. There'd be war anyway. No empire lasts forever.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar August 11, 2015 10:18 PM  

Yeah well good luck on your saving throw against radiation, pal.

Anonymous zen0 August 11, 2015 10:45 PM  

@109 JS

> We're all going to regret this.

Seriously, Mr. Sinister? What part of "The Middle East Nukes Itself So That Others May Be Saved" as a foreign policy do you not understand?

Everybody has been on about how it should all be turned to glass, and now that the possibilities are being explored without blame focussed on the outside, you get all wobbly.

How is the radiation problem any less that Fuckyoushima? And the decade of atomospheric tests. ?

You are not ready for Prime Time.

Anonymous zen0 August 11, 2015 10:51 PM  

half my brilliant and pithy comments are being disappeared, even after they appear.

I am demoralized

Anonymous zen0 August 11, 2015 11:02 PM  

@111 JS

> Yeah well good luck on your saving throw against radiation, pal.

During the era of atmospheric nuclear testing, there was an equivalent expulsion of radiation that would be less than that of a localized nuke war in the Mid East.

Sure most people got cancer and a lot of people became Homos, but other than that, what is the big deal? No Nuclear winter and such.

So the Muslims nuke themselves into oblivion. Boo Hoo. Saves us from doing it.

Get a grip, grasshopper.

Anonymous zen0 August 11, 2015 11:10 PM  

that would be less than = that would be more than

I have conceptual dyslexia

Blogger Floyd Looney August 11, 2015 11:20 PM  

I don't want to pull a rickshaw

Anonymous Donn #0114 August 11, 2015 11:32 PM  

Our foreign policy guarantees that if you are anti-American you are better off with nukes than without. Can you imagine us pulling the same crap in Pakistan as we did in Libya? So why are we surprised when people go about building nuclear weapons. There's a bunch of krapsackistans in Asia that used to have nukes there. Did the scientists stay? Can they reproduce them? I don't know but it could get interesting.

Anonymous Satan's Hamster August 11, 2015 11:42 PM  

"Can you imagine us pulling the same crap in Pakistan as we did in Libya?"

Another success story of the Barmy/Clinton Axis. That dumb-ass Bush convinced Gadaffi to drop his WMD programs, and super-smart Barmy and Clinton took out a hit on him. Every other tinpot dictator said 'WTF? Where can I get nukes, right now?'

To much of the world, the US is now seen as a nation of insane, warmongering homos. Obviously they want nukes, if they have two clue cells to rub together.

Blogger automatthew August 11, 2015 11:45 PM  

zen0, it's not the spam system, so far as I can tell. Sometimes Blogger just fails to persist a comment. I suspect their distributed storage system is having stupid consistency problems.

Blogger pyrrhus August 11, 2015 11:58 PM  

@117 Better believe it, nukes are the only guarantee against American country wrecking, (so lucrative for the military contractors and banks)....No country with nukes has ever been attacked by another country. Nato's actions in Eastern Europe are all the more lunatic when you consider that Russia has 6000 tactical nukes and has stated that they will use them against any invader....

Anonymous marty August 12, 2015 1:49 AM  

You are correct that the population is now a bunch of morons and, I woukd add, babies. Just tonight some guy with a Delhi-style tan whined that I had no right to "accuse" him. I had asked him if the trespassing kids nearby, of the same hue, were his. This is why I hope Pournelle is right, and that the Iranians have twice the brainpower of Edward Teller. But I doubt it. For over ten years now, a Lawrence -Livermore physicist and radio host has been telling us about a Persian dirty bomb that was always imminent.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar August 12, 2015 1:52 AM  

Yeah I think all of you are missing the point. They do hate us, and that's why those nukes are not gonna blow up in their neighborhood. There are terrorists who live for revenge for things that happened a long time ago, and our border is now an imaginary line. I live unfortunately close to an Islamic bomb magnet and if the wind blows the wrong way, I'm going as Lex Luthor next Halloween. If they just nuked each other this would not be a problem, but since when do they waste their best weapons and terrorists on themselves?

Anonymous Satan's Hamster August 12, 2015 2:23 AM  

"If they just nuked each other this would not be a problem, but since when do they waste their best weapons and terrorists on themselves?"

Uh, all the time?

If America kept its nose out of the Middle East, they'd get back to their regular job of... fighting each other.

Instead, we currently appear to have the absurdity of US-supported Kurds attacking Turkey, a NATO member that America is sworn to support.

It's batshit crazy, but what do expect from a military that wears red high heels?

Blogger LP 999/Eliza August 12, 2015 2:30 AM  

104 Josh, indeed confusion, poor policies. all turmoil that could have been easily avoided or could have the last 100 years of history have been avoided?

Did any of these questionable even think thru their own logic? were they so controlled by greed, pride and misplaced zealotry did they seek to betray the founding principles of the USA?

Anonymous Donn #0114 August 12, 2015 2:34 AM  

@122 Joshua I am willing to make a gentlemens bet that at least half the nukes will go off in the middle east or muslim world. Not including demonstrations or tests.

Anonymous Donn #0114 August 12, 2015 2:38 AM  

Don't worry about radiation. I have three cousins who worked at Hanford and while all three got cancer only two died. Not bad odds.

Blogger James Higham August 12, 2015 5:52 AM  

The US is still mighty powerful, Vox and his readers. Less than before but still powerful. You do have a major issue within your borders though - the left. These people have sold you out.

Blogger Cail Corishev August 12, 2015 8:27 AM  

To much of the world, the US is now seen as a nation of insane, warmongering homos. Obviously they want nukes, if they have two clue cells to rub together.

Heck, I want nukes to protect myself from the insane, warmongering homos.

Or as Tom Servo said when Mike found out he had a nuclear bomb hidden under his bed: "I thought it might be a good deterrent against, uh, you guys someday."

Blogger JaimeInTexas August 12, 2015 9:05 AM  

The thing about Iran is that Iran does understand real politics. That is why, just like these uSA, Russia and others use proxies in low level warfare. Iran, unlike our great friends the Saudis, are not as radical as the propaganda machine make them to be.
We keep pushing against Iran to the point that getting nukes will be the only option available as deterrence.
These uSA foreign policy against Iran and Cuba I can only describe as period induced. It is based on emotion and not reason. Iranian mullahs have their sins of repression, no doubt, but what these uSA and the British did to them, when Mossadeh was deposed, was 25 years, more or less, of Savak.
I would travel to Iran. To Saudi Arabia? Hell no!

Anonymous Eric Ashley August 12, 2015 9:20 AM  

Hamster, think thru the next step. Let's assume hypothetically that you're 100% correct on Mideast hatred of us being our fault.

Now what?

We run back home, and people who are still whining about Andalus forget about us?

Your argument is a popular one with libertarians, and showcases libertarian weaknesses of thought.

Blogger JaimeInTexas August 12, 2015 9:31 AM  

Mid east is not 100% our fault. It is 100% of our fault that we are there, though. How about, if we are going to put military around the world for, wherever (to quote the unfinished thought of Trump), lets bring the troops from Asia, Europe, the Middle East, the Pacific, and let's start moving south of the border of these uSA. That will keep the military-congressional-industrial complex happy; will keep the troops in combat and that will make the politicians happy and busy with patriot speeches, etc; and will make the narcos' life miserable.

Blogger JaimeInTexas August 12, 2015 9:35 AM  

Too much recent history for us to be left alone when we leave the middle east. But, it will improve with time. And, when we are hit, we hit back but we do not land troops, nor occupy land, nor liberate people. And, if we are going to war, have an honest declaration of war by the Congress of these uSA, with all attendant laws the will be activated in such circumstance. We will then find out how much we like wars then.

Anonymous Luke August 12, 2015 11:00 AM  

36. June August 11, 2015 1:46 PM

"Actually America is about to enter its golden age".

Oh, like Zimbabwe is in now?


"white men are scared they are going to have pull their weight like everyone else and that terrifies them"

Can anyone who can find the ENTER button on a keyboard really be so stupid as to think that is remotely accurate?

From http://www.fredoneverything.net/WhiteMales.shtml

"...we [men] have contributed a few things to civilization. For example:

Euclidean geometry. Parabolic geometry. Hyperbolic geometry. Projective geometry. Differential geometry. Algebra. Limits, continuity, differentiation, integration. Physical chemistry. Organic chemistry. Biochemistry. Classical mechanics. The indeterminacy principle. The wave equation. The Parthenon. The Anabasis. Air conditioning. Number theory. Romanesque architecture. Gothic architecture. Information theory. Entropy. Enthalpy. Every symphony ever written. Pierre Auguste Renoir. The twelve-tone scale. The mathematics behind it, twelfth root of two and all that. S-p hybrid bonding orbitals. The Bohr-Sommerfeld atom. The purine-pyrimidine structure of the DNA ladder. Single-sideband radio. All other radio. Dentistry. The internal-combustion engine. Turbojets. Turbofans. Doppler beam-sharpening. Penicillin. Airplanes. Surgery. The mammogram. The Pill. The condom. The penis. Polio vaccine. The integrated circuit. The computer. Football. Computational fluid dynamics. Tensors. The Constitution. Euripides, Sophocles, Aristophanes, Aeschylus, Homer, Hesiod. Glass. Rubber. Nylon. Roads. Buildings. Elvis. Acetylcholinesterase inhibitors. (OK, that's nerve gas, and maybe we didn't really need it.) Silicone. The automobile. Really weird stuff, like clathrates, Buckyballs, and rotaxanes. The Bible. Bug spray. Diffie-Hellman, public-key cryptography, and RSA. Et cetera."

Anonymous Donn #0114 August 12, 2015 1:25 PM  

Don't forget the bikini. Some french dude did that.

Anonymous Cuca Culpa August 12, 2015 1:50 PM  

@35 @39 They made Barry Scheck green, gave him Mike Meyers' voice and produced a cartoon.

Anonymous Cuca Culpa August 12, 2015 2:05 PM  

@71 The Russians (and presumably the US, RAF, etc) used to sell client states the 'monkey model' of aircraft. It actually is pretty easy to verify a nuke if you have the right traning.

Fun fact: used to know someone at DoE that was a weapons inspector for START. They used to slap on their own GPSes on moving materials because they didn't trust GLONASS.

Iran is a red herring. Get back to me when they have a deluvery system.

Anonymous Satan's Hamster August 12, 2015 9:58 PM  

"Your argument is a popular one with libertarians, and showcases libertarian weaknesses of thought."

Fifty years ago, the warmongers were claiming America couldn't get out of Vietnam, because the Commies would take over the whole world. Now the warmongers are claiming America can't stop bombing the Middle East, or ISIS will load up a few oil tankers with troops to land on Dayona Beach and take over America.

Different centuries, same old claptrap.

Blogger Groot August 12, 2015 11:42 PM  

@130. Eric Ashley:
"Your argument is a popular one with libertarians, and showcases libertarian weaknesses of thought."

Please explicate unto us, with your titanium brains, the mighty course of your thoughts. I'm so interested. Drop to one knee, and draw out this weakness upon the sand. Do tell how this movement built upon revolutionary war so feebly fails us.

@133. Luke:
"...we [men] have contributed a few things to civilization. For example:
"...The penis."

Umm, no.

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